Hanasaka Yui(CV: M.A.O) - Harumachi Clover · forum

-Nya-

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2017-01-18T17:28:49+00:00

If you're unsure about if the source should be separated or not then I suggest PM'ing IamKwaN about it. Just check his status on his userpage, but he's usually open for requests.

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-01-18T17:44:14+00:00

Will do when i have an icon, she mostly don't accept until a map is close to rank

Besides, i believe i have enough evidence to make a solid decisions about the metadata problems

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2017-01-18T17:46:33+00:00

KuranteMelodii wrote:
Will do when i have an icon, she mostly don't accept until a map is close to rank

She accepted mine, and my map has been uploaded for only 5 days

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-01-18T17:47:26+00:00

Nvm ill go ask her

Karen

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Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-01-18T18:31:07+00:00

just copy mine after i update my map, i've got her to check it already, don't waste her time, and your time too

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-01-19T10:57:35+00:00

你這樣說你update完之後你來幫我speedrank行嗎

lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-01-19T14:55:50+00:00

Karen wrote:
just copy mine after i update my map, i've got her to check it already, don't waste her time, and your time too

like what i did xd

Momochikun

1,927 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2017-01-20T02:00:24+00:00

handsome muscle wrote:
Mochi's Insane
00:05:566 (3,4,5,6) - This one works better https://puu.sh/tqxCE/149c9682b0.png nah i already rework this
00:07:045 (3) - could make a blanket with 5 nope
00:11:481 (3) - the overlap is odds to me,just personally.

https://puu.sh/tqycG/b4a9ce5334.png？？？我想看小姐姐的脸啊
This is solid so I could give few tips to u. But u really need to extend the song if u want to rank it.

TwillghtSparkle wrote:
Hello begginner mapper . Just opinions.No kudosu if not helpful

Mochi insane
00:16:974 (2) - adjust a bit blanket here ok
00:16:552 (1,3) - overlap
00:23:101 (3,1) -

Sorry thats all i can see . Good luck

Blan_C wrote:
Hello, my 3rd mod I hope it can help somehow :v
M4M from #modreqs

Mochi's Insane
00:05:143 (2,3,4,5,6) You can make a triangle from circles and start of slider. nah
00:07:045 (3) - I'd make a blanket with 00:05:989 (5) - because of shape of that slider.
I don't know if it matters but 00:08:524 (2,3) - blanket is off :v
00:16:974 (2,3) - Blanket :v
00:24:158 (3,1) - ^

Epic maps. I really liked them. Good luck!

-Nya- wrote:
Hi, M4M here.

Mochi’s Insane:
You can actually raise the AR a bit as well since this is an Insane. 8 would work nicely. i used 7,5 before because i dont want higher AR than halation, now that its changed ok
00:00:284 (1,2) –Why is the spacing here so low? The reason I’m asking is because the vocal on the head of (2) isn’t that weak so more emphasis would be cool and the vocal sound similar to 00:00:918 (3) – so it would be nice if the spacings were similar here. moved a bit
00:05:566 (3) –The jump here is quite big and looks very different from the previous spacings. I suggest nerfing the jump a bit because the beat on (3) really isn’t that strong to support such a big jump. it's not that big
00:05:989 (5,6) –I expected the spacing here to be bigger than the spacing here: 00:05:566 (3,4) – or at least similar since the vocals build up at (5) and (6)no
00:19:087 (6) –I suggest rather adding a new combo here and removing the new combo here: 00:19:298 (1) – since the vocal on (6) is stronger so it would support a new combo. Same goes to 00:22:467 (6,1) - i want to keep it because i liked 3 than 4
00:19:932 (1,2) –The spacing here should actually be a bit bigger to be consistent with the previous similar patterns.1,2

I feel spacings in this diff can still be improved. Consistent spacings (not completely but it should be noticeable) and also bigger spacings on strong beats and smaller spacings on weak beats. im already follow that common rule on most cases but i want to do smth different, that's just fine

Overall, this set looks nice.
If you have any questions regarding my mod, feel free to poke me in-game. Good Luck~

Thanks

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Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2017-01-20T02:20:55+00:00

Blan_C wrote:
Misure's Hard
00:02:186 (3,4,2) - Make better triangle here
00:04:721 (1,2,3) - ^ triangle can be created from end of 1st slider and (2,3)
I know that but I'd prefer to make it more like a hard diff so only add triplets at that two parts you can see, so keep it xd

handsome muscle wrote:
Misure's Hard
00:07:890 (5,1) - A triplet at here is okay
00:14:017 (3) - I think it should be a 1/2 slider
第一个那里因为要控难度所以1/4只加在了那两个part 应该比较合适（以后视情节可能会改）后者其实还是有一点点1/4的音而且这么表现过渡效果应该还好不改啦
我想看小姐姐的脸啊
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-Nya- wrote:
Misure’s Hard:
Lower your OD. Right now it’s similar to the Insane. Try 5.5.
sure

Nothing else really bothered me in this diff.
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Thanks for your modding!

@krt-chan: help me change my od to 5.5, thanks :3
btw remember to make all diffs ends at the same point ..

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-01-20T05:33:07+00:00

All updated, IDK do i need to change gder's spinner, i afraid you'll hate me if i edit your diffs

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

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-Atri- 2017-01-20T06:35:29+00:00

Intended doublepost no haterino

Since Karen already got metadata check from IamKwaN, i desired to change some tags and romanized artist from his mapset
But since he keep "one_room" as tags, I guess "One Room" is acceptable as they're almost identical
Since Misure allowed me to change the spinner to make consistency throughout the diffs, I am waiting mochi's reply so i can update and upload the changes as well

My friend failed the BN test, fuck

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-01-26T15:32:22+00:00

Hi!

Sorry I dont think this map is eligible to be ranked. The very first note starts on 00:00:284 (1) - while the actual end of the last continuous sound is at 00:29:545 for me. Therefore the actual length of the map should be 29 seconds and 261 miliseconds, which is below the minimum length to be qualified. You used an extended spinner to "try to" satisfy the minimun length of the ranking criteria, which is pointless.

Sorry again!

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

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-Atri- 2017-01-26T15:52:33+00:00

I understand your opinions nor i don't want to force you to mod this, and i respect the current RC settings, too, but i am gonna disagree for 2 reasons:

1. There's a qualified mapset which also extends the spinner at the end to fit the RC settings, and it's even mapped by a BN, which usually have higher quality then other mappers, if the mapset's drain time is truly cannot meet the 30 sec requirement, then Karen's mapset wouldn't qualified in the first place and lit's wouldn't got a bubble either, Which also uses the same technique, since having lower drain time is already an unrankable issue.

2. Not sure does you have a headphone or not, but there's a weak "echo" sound that plays after 00:29:545 - , so in this case, both the current or the time you point out is also acceptable, again, ending the spinner early will make the mapset unrankable, so there's no choice other then that

Cheers for passing by, hope you understand my explaination

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2017-01-28T16:36:03+00:00

from m4m, oh i came in not right time

maybe u need soft-sliderslide, ur sliders are noisy as fak

Easy :
- 00:08:101 (1) - maybe up the slider a bit its almost offscreen
- 00:23:101 (2) - nice jump i love it
- 00:26:481 - should have finish for the cymbal too
- 00:28:383 (1) - for sake of cute hitsound pls remove finish and normal sampleset

Normal :
- watdefak AR 3? at least u need AR 5
- OD 4 pls this is not advanced diff
- 00:00:707 - you have to map this, the vocal is continuing and will be weird to skip one
- 00:08:101 (1,2) - parallel
- 00:09:791 (1,2) - ^
- 00:13:172 - finish because cymbal

Hard :
- 00:02:186 (3,1) - can you make them parallel or do a visual pattern rather than being random aesthetic ><
- 00:07:996 - why not triplet for consistency with 00:09:580 (5,6,1) - ?
- 00:18:242 - i can hear cymbal here how about give finish too?

Insane :
- OD 6,5 ae? 6 kek hard
- 00:07:996 - di map ae? bisa pake triplet atau 1/4 slider jump seh. soalnya aneh ae iki di skip tapi 00:09:580 (1,2,1,2) - di map

good luck ~

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-01-28T17:14:39+00:00

Xinely wrote:
from m4m, oh i came in not right time

maybe u need soft-sliderslide, ur sliders are noisy as fak IDK, i don't like customs D:

Normal :
- watdefak AR 3? at least u need AR 5 ok
- OD 4 pls this is not advanced diff ok
- 00:00:707 - you have to map this, the vocal is continuing and will be weird to skip one I want to let the rhythm simpler and i reviewed on other mapset, no change here
- 00:08:101 (1,2) - parallel No because they're the same shape
- 00:09:791 (1,2) - ^ ^
- 00:13:172 - finish because cymbal ok

Thanks for the mod~

Hope i can find BN to rank lol

lcfc

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Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-01-28T20:19:57+00:00

Xinely wrote:
from m4m, oh i came in not right time

maybe u need soft-sliderslide, ur sliders are noisy as fak

Easy :
- 00:08:101 (1) - maybe up the slider a bit its almost offscreen ok
- 00:23:101 (2) - nice jump i love it LOL ds bugs e_e
- 00:26:481 - should have finish for the cymbal too
- 00:28:383 (1) - for sake of cute hitsound pls remove finish and normal sampleset

I didn't do the the hitsounding so it's up to krt for the other two suggestions ^^

good luck ~

Thanks for modding!

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Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2017-01-29T05:41:06+00:00

Xinely wrote:
Hard :
- 00:02:186 (3,1) - can you make them parallel or do a visual pattern rather than being random aesthetic ><
in fact I made a blanket here lol
- 00:07:996 - why not triplet for consistency with 00:09:580 (5,6,1) - ?
umm I'd like only to place triplet in the next part ;w;
- 00:18:242 - i can hear cymbal here how about give finish too?
kk

谢谢！

Codesu

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-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-01-29T15:45:39+00:00

All hitsounding issues on LCFC's diff are fixed and updated

Ryuusei Aika

Elite Mapper

1,085 posts

Joined January 2016

Ryuusei Aika 2017-01-30T05:45:08+00:00

from queue

这kiai什么情况

Easy
00:11:481 (1) - there have some obvious beat so i dont think just a spinner here is a good choice

Normal
00:14:228 - 这里是不是加个note比较好，毕竟也算一串鼓点的开头

Insane
00:24:158 (3,1) - blanket?

妈哟这图怎么都能摸出个论文来的
gl

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-01-30T07:36:28+00:00

replaced spinner with objects in above mod ^^
krt hitsound the added objects xd

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09kami

828 posts

Joined August 2010

09kami 2017-01-30T14:27:49+00:00

09kami wrote:
[General]

BG太大了

[Halation]
00:14:228 (2,1) - 这种梗出现在这个难度有点不合适 AR8.5的情况下比较容易初见杀而且从整张图来看只有这个地方的跳点非常突出 1/4滑条接连打这种个人觉得是属于比较难的摆法

[Mochi's Insane]
00:10:636 (1) - 这个好像不用单独NC吧
00:19:932 (1,2,3) - 这里的排列显得很奇怪建议修整下
00:22:256 (4,5,6) - 这里的三连感觉下得有点神奇虽然说4到6这里人声是一个拉长音但是如果把这个三连改成00:22:045 (3,4) - 这里的三连反而会显得比较合适可以尝试下

[Misure's Hard]
00:14:017 (3,4) - 考虑到这是hard 或许应该把这两次1/4折返改成一次折返呢？
http://puu.sh/tGPkt/c0cadbd2e2.png
00:27:960 (6,1,1) - 这里也是感觉太复杂了 00:28:383 (1) - 直接把转盘从这个位置开始拉就好了这里的排列比起hard 实际上更接近insane

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-01-30T16:53:55+00:00

Neanmoins wrote:
Normal
00:14:228 - 这里是不是加个note比较好，毕竟也算一串鼓点的开头 感覺這樣會塞得太多
gl

09kami wrote:
[General]

BG太大了 還好的，現在可以飛不超過1920x1200的BG了

[Halation]
00:14:228 (2,1) - 这种梗出现在这个难度有点不合适 AR8.5的情况下比较容易初见杀而且从整张图来看只有这个地方的跳点非常突出 1/4滑条接连打这种个人觉得是属于比较难的摆法我知道你想到的問題，但是我試過那麼多方法覺得沒有一個合適的，我只是將那個跳縮短，而且將那個1/4劃條露出多一點了，希望這個可以解決你所提的問題

Thanks for the mod also updated and hitsounded LCFC's part

Translation of 09kami's mod for Mochi:

09kami wrote:
[Mochi's Insane]
00:10:636 (1) - I think this is not necessary to NC
00:19:932 (1,2,3) - This pattern is kinda strange imo, i suggest you to change it
00:22:256 (4,5,6) - I think putting the triplet on 00:22:045 (3,4) - instead of here will follow the vocal transition better

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2017-01-31T16:31:14+00:00

@酒神都改了谢谢摸！

Codesu

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-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-01-31T16:59:12+00:00

Updated, now waiting for mochi's reply

Momochikun

1,927 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2017-02-01T10:32:39+00:00

Xinely wrote:
from m4m, oh i came in not right time

Insane :
- OD 6,5 ae? 6 kek hard yo
- 00:07:996 - di map ae? bisa pake triplet atau 1/4 slider jump seh. soalnya aneh ae iki di skip tapi 00:09:580 (1,2,1,2) - di map tak barno 1/2 ae cek vocal e dapet

good luck ~

KuranteMelodii wrote:
09kami wrote:
[Mochi's Insane]
00:10:636 (1) - I think this is not necessary to NC its fine
00:19:932 (1,2,3) - This pattern is kinda strange imo, i suggest you to change it why ? xD
00:22:256 (4,5,6) - I think putting the triplet on 00:22:045 (3,4) - instead of here will follow the vocal transition better you can hear triplet there

thanks mb

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-Atri-

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Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-02-01T12:55:33+00:00

updated

Firiiu

101 posts

Joined January 2016

Firiiu 2017-02-02T03:31:08+00:00

Alright, This isn't really a mod, but the strangeness of the Kiai time in this song. Its for less than a second, and happens twice. You only put it on the tiny sections of the song that don't really need it. I understand if you meant to do it, it's just you did it in such a strange way.

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-02-02T04:25:31+00:00

Since pretty much people complained about the kiai time, i desired to remove them after the next mod, idk about the gds though

~~Let's wait for another week~~

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-02-02T13:45:24+00:00

I think the use of kiai is pretty fine as the song length is too small to have it be happening continuously. The creator wanted to achieve the pretty star effect while meeting the RC as well.

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2017-02-04T13:12:18+00:00

not a problem imo since I have seen much usage like this, but will be consistent with the highest diff

-Atri-

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Topic Starter

-Atri- 2017-02-04T13:13:02+00:00

Ok, will keep it :p

Binguo

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Joined April 2015

Binguo 2017-02-09T06:28:43+00:00

划水
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sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-02-24T12:08:22+00:00

[Easy]

00:24:791 (1) - should be consistent with 00:23:101 (2,3) -

[Normal]

00:06:411 (1,2) - flow
00:11:270 - add circle?
00:12:960 - same
00:13:172 (1,2,3,1) - weird way of catching rhythm..00:14:228 - shouldnt be ignored. use this: http://puu.sh/uhIsG/6d740edcf2.jpg or http://puu.sh/uhIts/e3d94cb824.jpg
00:21:622 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - too many circles are used...which cant represent song very well imo,just use previous patterns rather than new ones
Normal lacks quality in terms of aesthetics and rhythm. Strongly suggest you rework it.

[Insane]

00:12:538 - really feels empty here, i recommend you add a circle that stack with 00:11:481 (3) - slider end

[Extra]

00:13:805 (2,2) - jump a bit too messy with overlap here
00:02:186 (1) - 00:03:665 (1) - etc why NC spam...just NC every 4 instead of 2 white lines..
00:04:298 (3,4,1,2) - make them parallel?aesthetics.
00:21:622 (1,1) - why suddenly 1/1 slider here?imo 1/2 slider+circle works better
00:26:481 (1,2) - stack

Call me back and I will see how it goes.

lcfc

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lcfc 2017-02-24T13:40:47+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Easy]
00:24:791 (1) - should be consistent with 00:23:101 (2,3) -

Wanted to follow the vocal in here, and as there's no vocal playing in 00:25:848 - I don't see any reason putting a clickable object there.

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-02-24T13:40:57+00:00

Will reply after GD's reply

Also, antigrave

Misure

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Misure 2017-02-24T15:36:02+00:00

萨皇要取我性命.jpg

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-03-02T13:57:36+00:00

Misure wrote:
萨皇要取我性命.jpg

Replying for now because mochi is not active even i reminded him to reply the mods and Kencho might mod this soon

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Normal]
00:06:411 (1,2) - flow
00:11:270 - add circle?
00:12:960 - same
00:13:172 (1,2,3,1) - weird way of catching rhythm..00:14:228 - shouldnt be ignored. use this: http://puu.sh/uhIsG/6d740edcf2.jpg or http://puu.sh/uhIts/e3d94cb824.jpg
00:21:622 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - too many circles are used...which cant represent song very well imo,just use previous patterns rather than new ones I can remap this part if there's too much circles, but for this part, the second finish was landed on a red tick before the downbeat, which is different from 00:09:791 (1) - , which have finish on the downbeat instead, so i think it's impossible to use the previous rhythm without ruining the emphasis on this part
Normal lacks quality in terms of aesthetics and rhythm. Strongly suggest you rework it.

Normal other fixed

[Extra]
00:13:805 (2,2) - jump a bit too messy with overlap here Spaced out a little bit, but the aesthetics is questionable
00:02:186 (1) - 00:03:665 (1) - etc why NC spam...just NC every 4 instead of 2 white lines.. The purpose of NCing this way is to let the vocal and those triangles split properly, NCing every 4 white lines here might feel that i can't represent the vocal separation on both of them, and the latter is for consistency
00:04:298 (3,4,1,2) - make them parallel?aesthetics. sure
00:21:622 (1,1) - why suddenly 1/1 slider here?imo 1/2 slider+circle works better I meant to focus the emphasis on the finish, but oh well
00:26:481 (1,2) - stack ok

Call me back and I will see how it goes.

Momochikun

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Momochikun 2017-03-03T12:29:03+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Insane]
00:12:538 - really feels empty here, i recommend you add a circle that stack with 00:11:481 (3) - slider end i want to keep break so people could get ready for 00:13:172 (1,2,1,2,1) - pattern

Call me back and I will see how it goes.

sorry for late, i didnt check my email often. you should poke me via pm or smth lol xD
i also did some changes myself though thanks

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