Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Osu|CatchTheBeat]‬ · forum‬

_Meep_

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-11-26T10:54:52+00:00

K[centre]alindraz wrote:
Hi i'm promised to come to help you!:D/
let see..

Insane
00:14:254 (3,3) - eeh.. stack. stacked
00:20:728 - u ignored a strong beat here aa aaa i dont hear anything big here xd
00:51:833 (1,2) - same ds in relation this note 00:52:149 (3,4) - right? uh fixed dat
00:56:096 (1) - i have 94% about this slider , this is a wiggle slider, wiggle its a unrankable slider uh someone recommended this slider and the wiggle was for the vocals,I think it fits the song well and it doesn't wiggle as much to the point that it is unrankable
Nice awesome diff, the aesthetic and rhythm on kiai time its really awesome and good to catch really easy to fit / thx <3

Hard
00:42:833 (2,4,5) - please fix ds, this kill me ;_;
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i think this pattern it sounds like insane or light insane, to read i guess.. u could make something more simple, to not confuse some players? I made it to challenge the players' reading, I kind of have no intention of removing this because I think it's essential to give something challenging to the player.
same above insane

i think done.
Good luck!!

Thanks for modding

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-11-26T13:19:47+00:00

mom idk what happened but not mod from cloudchaser didn't get updated, so here's this

idk why but it didnt update the rhythm change in the first part of map

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_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-11-26T13:21:08+00:00

Lol wadafaq? Well I'll update after i eat mah dinner

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-11-26T18:43:13+00:00

Kalindraz wrote:
Hi i'm promised to come to help you!:D/
let see..

Nowa Flower

how about giving an equivalent distance to that note 00:03:675 (2) - in relation to others 00:03:202 (1,3) - ? Whatever.. the part is slow I think it's the most appropriate. I made it like so because these two 00:03:202 (1,2) - atleast imo sound pretty much the same but the last one is notably higher than the other ones
00:14:886 - There is a strong beat here, How about transforming that slider 1/1 on 3/4 to place another note here 00:14:886 - ? Alright, will do
and make 3 sliders 1/2 with this notes 00:15:044 (2,4,6) - To boost rhythm. They should be fine like they are now
00:20:254 (4) - I suppose it's 1/2 than 1/1 because of a relevant beat here xd No that is intentionally 1/1.
00:42:044 (1) - particularly, this change of sv does not emphasize anything in relation to music, because here 00:42:044 - Is a continuation of the previous sequence. It kinda boosts the effect of the sv change after that. Also i don't feel like having 0.8x would work there. If someone brings this up later on with more opinions i will consider this
00:43:623 (2,2,2) - overlap i suppose. Not visible so it shouldn't matter
00:45:991 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1) - There are some things wrong in my view, first: stopped giving nc for each 2 notes that you put.
second: Is a very random distance, without any emphasis. i think this part need a reformulation. 00:45:991 (1,2,1,2) - = 00:43:465 (1,2,1,2) - and the other notes are following the ascending notes
00:47:412 - he vocal and the instrumental is very calm to use these distances and this volume, really.. change to something like 25-30% 00:42:360 - 00:54:991 - This part pretty much has the same intenstity with little bit differing drum density so i won't change volume nor spacing
00:59:412 (3,4,5) - I think it strengthens the rhythm if you ctrl+g'ed this notes.
01:01:623 (2,4,1) - intentional overlap again? It is not visible
01:06:991 (4) - nc this note and buff the jump in relation this notes 01:06:991 (4,5,6) - Continous drums and no pattern difference so no reason
01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - , 01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - really awesome jump but this 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - together, totally destroy the aesthetics. Maybe if you look it when they all are highlighted. If you just casually play the map they look fine
01:15:991 (4,5) - hm how about transform into a slider 1/2 and remove nc this note 01:16:307 (1) - No

only that here.

Good luck!!

Ty i guess. You could try to reason your points little bit better next time also sorry if i sound bit rude as i had a pretty bad day :<

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ErunamoJAZZ

osu! Alumni

2,794 posts

Joined August 2012

ErunamoJAZZ 2016-11-27T01:01:57+00:00

Hello~

I will mod in order of more critic diff for a eventual rank:

[Yoshimaro's Easy ]

First, I read you remap this few days ago, and essentially, your map is good, but its true that it does not feel like a easy diff (staring system know it too xD). I will point here what I think you must change to make it like a easy diff, explaining why.
Rhythm: The main characteristic that make a Easy diff "easy" and noob friendly, is that beats are at 1/1.

In 00:14:570 (1,2) - by example, will be appropriate for a normal diff, but not for a Easy diff (except if bpm is very low). A solution of that will be some like this:

But by example in 00:18:833 (2,3) - , you will feel as its is cool, but a noob player will just miss here... or be stressed. For a easy diff its better just extend slider. It will apply in other sections where you use a circle at slider end. (hint: use this pattern in Advanced+)
Polarity: I think you know about this, But you didn't know how applying this in a easy diff.

In 00:09:517 (1,2) - you use a circle, but a more friendly patter is a repeat slider with his arrow in a red tick:

be care about other places with issues!
Flow: How to know if a noob player will play my map??, well... ask to people in your house (by example, I used my brother for this sometimes hahaha), This really will help you to understand how to map a easy.
The idea is: keep it simple and intuitive for they.
(hint: try to play your map with EZ mod)

So, the way to keep a intuitive flow, is doing this way very very obvious. Its why stack objects, or overlaps, are usually bad idea.
Patterns like 00:08:254 (2,3) - will be stressing for nubs, "wahh, its back from my way... oh damn, I missed a circle". Other like 00:16:465 (1,2) - will be confusing "omg, right or left, right or left... right!, ohhhh noo, the other right!!", similar to 00:57:517 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:00:044 (1,2,3,4) - . The last example about flow will be 01:26:570 (2,1) - here they will click the slider tail instead:
noob view
00:49:939 (4,1) - similar issue.
Obligatory to read : http://osuqat.tumblr.com/post/150197939 ... dly-easies

So!, now other stuffs:

00:04:465 (1) - This is not perfectly symmetric.
Steps to make symmetric sliders
1) make the shape as you want using a big grid (ignoring slider length):

2) Use the scale tool (Ctrl+Shif+S) and scale to adequate length. Make it one to one for perfect adjustment.
00:17:096 (1,2,3) - this will be better:
00:19:623 (1,1) - It is unrankable. Time is very short for a easy diff. end in 00:20:886 - will be fine, but I think if you make a slider instead, its better (because spinners are confusing for nub players, and this will be very short due rules).
I hope you will improve this map, ganbatte!!!

I know, make easy diffs will be difficult. I actually made some easy gds, so you will look those if you want some inspiration or whatever

[Insane]

00:56:096 (1) - This pattern is interesting, but I think this slider shape will be bad idea. Jumps before feels fast, and this slider is changing this velocity. IMO, you must change this (will be problematic for a rank!)
00:02:886 (3) - This patter is very very strange in play.

[619's Normal]

00:19:623 (1,2,1) - did you saw this? stack looks... ugly ^^U (remember active the Stacking in view menu)
le ugly
01:15:202 (1,2) - I feel this flow annoying u.u but I think its because rhythm, please, consider this option:

[Hard]

high quality!

[Nowa's Flower ]

generically rannkeable?

[General]
10% volume will be very low. consider use 15% or 20%.

Good luck!!!

-NanoRIPE-

2,084 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2016-11-27T04:44:24+00:00

ok it looks the easy diff remapped

[Easy]
are you sure about the stars? i mean im never see 1,6* on easy diff even though the bpm is 190 bpm :/ (im recommended to reduce the stars xd)

00:06:991 (1) - move to (466,143) for better flow between slider (2,1,2,3)
00:14:570 (1,2) - this is quite difficult for Easy player imo.if you want try emphatize the piano sounds here maybe you can try this rhythm instead? http://prnt.sc/dc9lti
00:18:833 (2,3) - maybe just make this notes into 1 slider? to make it easier
00:30:991 (3,3) - ugly overlap imo (maybe just stacked 00:32:570 (1,3) - this slider for make it simply)
00:37:623 - add circle here? because you always add a circle on the new lyric as previously
01:11:412 (1) - unnecessary nc (idk how to explain this one xd)

ok gl

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-11-27T05:47:11+00:00

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
[Yoshimaro's Easy ]
First, I read you remap this few days ago, and essentially, your map is good, but its true that it does not feel like a easy diff (staring system know it too xD). I will point here what I think you must change to make it like a easy diff, explaining why. quick! better go bring that up in the other thread too!
Rhythm: The main characteristic that make a Easy diff "easy" and noob friendly, is that beats are at 1/1. straight from the article you linked later

In 00:14:570 (1,2) - by example, will be appropriate for a normal diff, but not for a Easy diff (except if bpm is very low). A solution of that will be some like this: plays goofy so i made a different 1/1 alternative

But by example in 00:18:833 (2,3) - , you will feel as its is cool, but a noob player will just miss here... or be stressed. For a easy diff its better just extend slider. It will apply in other sections where you use a circle at slider end. (hint: use this pattern in Advanced+) ill just extend 00:18:833 (2) - then and delete the circle
Polarity: I think you know about this, But you didn't know how applying this in a easy diff.

In 00:09:517 (1,2) - you use a circle, but a more friendly patter is a repeat slider with his arrow in a red tick:
i dont understand whats wrong about how the rhythm is now, read wise or function wise, it is 1/1 the notes are easy to follow, what is wrong with a circle in easy diff

be care about other places with issues!

Flow: How to know if a noob player will play my map??, well... ask to people in your house (by example, I used my brother for this sometimes hahaha), This really will help you to understand how to map a easy.
The idea is: keep it simple and intuitive for they.
(hint: try to play your map with EZ mod) well thats a silly suggestion because i can play EZ mod on harder maps anyway lol

So, the way to keep a intuitive flow, is doing this way very very obvious. Its why stack objects, or overlaps, are usually bad idea.
Patterns like 00:08:254 (2,3) - will be stressing for nubs, "wahh, its back from my way... oh damn, I missed a circle". Other like 00:16:465 (1,2) - will be confusing "omg, right or left, right or left... right!, ohhhh noo, the other right!!", similar to 00:57:517 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:00:044 (1,2,3,4) - . The last example about flow will be 01:26:570 (2,1) - here they will click the slider tail instead:
noob view
00:49:939 (4,1) - similar issue. first one bad example since the circle does not appear until after the slider is gone, kiai ones have ~490ms to read (this is enough time, come on), I do agree though that the slider on 01:26:570 (2,1) - may be a bit confusing to read object length and which one is starting/ending circle, so ill change that
Obligatory to read : http://osuqat.tumblr.com/post/150197939 ... dly-easies

So!, now other stuffs:
00:04:465 (1) - This is not perfectly symmetric. k
Steps to make symmetric sliders
1) make the shape as you want using a big grid (ignoring slider length):

2) Use the scale tool (Ctrl+Shif+S) and scale to adequate length. Make it one to one for perfect adjustment.
00:17:096 (1,2,3) - this will be better: changed that in earlier point
00:19:623 (1,1) - It is unrankable. Time is very short for a easy diff. end in 00:20:886 - will be fine, but I think if you make a slider instead, its better (because spinners are confusing for nub players, and this will be very short due rules). it has 2 measures? whats wrong
I hope you will improve this map, ganbatte!!!

thank for mod c:

oh wow the SR didnt change at all cool

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Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-11-27T05:58:43+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
ok it looks the easy diff remapped

[Easy]
are you sure about the stars? i mean im never see 1,6* on easy diff even though the bpm is 190 bpm :/ (im recommended to reduce the stars xd) why is everyone obsessed with the stars lol i dont even have the highest SR on this song from all of the sets between eLy toybot and this (and none of them need to be any lower), direct your complaints elsewhere if you want my easy to have lower star rating

00:06:991 (1) - move to (466,143) for better flow between slider (2,1,2,3) i think the reverse vertical flow is fine (?)
00:14:570 (1,2) - this is quite difficult for Easy player imo.if you want try emphatize the piano sounds here maybe you can try this rhythm instead? changed the rhythm from mod abovehttp://prnt.sc/dc9lti
00:18:833 (2,3) - maybe just make this notes into 1 slider? to make it easier yes, also done from mod above
00:30:991 (3,3) - ugly overlap imo (maybe just stacked 00:32:570 (1,3) - this slider for make it simply) the object does not appear in play time until the note is ~75ms from disappearing, also the end of 00:30:991 (3) - is over the slider track of 00:33:517 (3) - , so the clutter is minimized already
00:37:623 - add circle here? because you always add a circle on the new lyric as previously i'd like to keep the object density low here but this circle does fit, so ill put it in
01:11:412 (1) - unnecessary nc (idk how to explain this one xd) sure

ok gl

thank nano c:

i didnt realize there was another modder thats why i posted the 2 mods separately mom lol sorry

and oh wow! the SR STILL didn't go down!

osu file format v14

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Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:Yoshimaro's Easy
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~
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_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-11-27T09:43:00+00:00

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
Hello~

[Insane]
00:56:096 (1) - This pattern is interesting, but I think this slider shape will be bad idea. Jumps before feels fast, and this slider is changing this velocity. IMO, you must change this (will be problematic for a rank!)Truedat,But I think the wiggle plays the vocals really well and I'll change if a Bn comes in and says NO xd
00:02:886 (3) - This patter is very very strange in play.Wanted to make this a sort of gimmick for the map,tried to implement it in the slow parts because it didn't fit the hard parts
[Hard]
[list][*]high quality!
Tbh this was the difficulty I least expected to be high quality XD but wow,thanks

[General]
10% volume will be very low. consider use 15% or 20%.

Good luck!!!

-Latias-

592 posts

Joined November 2015

-Latias- 2016-11-27T23:28:00+00:00

hey

Ingame mod we had

17:45 _Meep_: bruh
17:45 _Meep_: can u help check my map?
17:46 -Latias-: a mod
17:46 -Latias-: or just an overview ?
17:46 _Meep_: overview is fine,mod is appreciated XD
17:46 *_Meep_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1101073 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT]
17:46 -Latias-: oh this map
17:46 _Meep_: yea
17:46 _Meep_: ;w;
17:46 -Latias-: ill do insane
17:46 -Latias-: i can only overview/ mod insane
17:47 -Latias-: ;w;
17:47 _Meep_: its fine xd
17:48 -Latias-: 00:11:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
17:48 -Latias-: oops
17:48 -Latias-: wrong one
17:48 -Latias-: 00:03:675 (2) -
17:48 _Meep_: XD
17:48 _Meep_: ?
17:48 -Latias-: i was chatting with a friend
17:48 _Meep_: oh ok xd
17:48 -Latias-: 00:03:675 (2) -
17:49 -Latias-: stack with 00:05:412 (3)
17:49 -Latias-: feels better if stacked
17:49 _Meep_: ok XD
17:50 -Latias-: 00:22:781 (3,2) -
17:50 -Latias-: looks ugly
17:50 -Latias-: 2 should either be blankted
17:50 -Latias-: or overlap in 3
17:50 -Latias-: i think blanket would work better
17:51 _Meep_: 2 is blanketed
17:51 _Meep_: lol
17:51 _Meep_: with 3
17:51 -Latias-: not well
17:51 -Latias-: i think it looks ugly
17:51 -Latias-: could be just mapping style
17:51 -Latias-: idk
17:51 _Meep_: XD
17:51 _Meep_: i'll consider
17:52 -Latias-: 00:25:939 (5) -
17:52 -Latias-: you could break this 1/1
17:52 -Latias-: since
17:52 -Latias-: 00:26:254
17:53 -Latias-: sound better if you had something to click on to
17:53 -Latias-: instead of just a slider end
17:53 _Meep_: Mapping to the vocals at that point
17:53 _Meep_: And this part is supposed to be slow,so I won't go for any sudden 3/4's
17:54 -Latias-: 00:33:517 (4,5)
17:54 -Latias-: your mapping to vocal here to
17:54 -Latias-: right
17:55 _Meep_: yea
17:55 -Latias-: 00:42:360 (1,2)
17:56 -Latias-: i dont see point of 2
17:56 -Latias-: being a diffrent shape than 1
17:57 _Meep_: hmm
17:57 _Meep_: but why not?
17:57 -Latias-: i see it as pretty much as same sound
17:57 -Latias-: its empsasizing
17:57 -Latias-: eeeeee
17:57 -Latias-: imo
17:57 -Latias-: would be better
17:58 -Latias-: if those two sliders were the same
17:58 _Meep_: I don
17:58 _Meep_: thmm
17:58 _Meep_: I don't really see the harm in changing or not
17:58 _Meep_: but probs won't since it doesn't really affect anything
17:58 -Latias-: ye
17:58 -Latias-: its a great diff
17:58 -Latias-: but im just trying to nit pick
18:00 -Latias-: 00:43:307 (3,4) -
18:00 -Latias-: imo distance shouldnt be the same as
18:00 -Latias-: 00:43:781 (1,2) -
18:00 -Latias-: i find the music more calm in that area
18:00 _Meep_: Its fine if u nitpick,bcuz i have troubles nitpicking my own diff xd
18:01 _Meep_: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6675817
18:01 _Meep_: ?
18:03 -Latias-: http://imgur.com/a/hgO3T
18:05 _Meep_: fixed
18:05 _Meep_: i think xd
18:05 -Latias-: xd
18:05 -Latias-: 00:46:465 (1,2,1,2,3) -
18:05 -Latias-: ok so
18:06 -Latias-: 00:46:623 and 00:46:939 (2)
18:06 -Latias-: are stacked one way
18:06 -Latias-: while
18:06 -Latias-: 00:47:096 (3) - 00:46:465 (1) are stacked another way
18:06 -Latias-: while if you see 00:48:833 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4)
18:07 _Meep_: Yea,I realised it when u mentioned that
18:07 _Meep_: fixed
18:07 -Latias-: 00:52:465 (1,1)
18:07 -Latias-: btw
18:08 -Latias-: great start up to kiai time here
18:08 _Meep_: ?
18:08 _Meep_: XD thanks
18:08 _Meep_: Lasse told me to try something,so i did
18:08 _Meep_: lul
18:08 -Latias-: 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
18:08 -Latias-: your going for triangles here ?
18:08 _Meep_: ye
18:09 -Latias-: 00:55:465 (4,5,6)
18:09 -Latias-: this isnt the same triangle as
18:09 -Latias-: 00:54:991 (1,2,3)
18:09 -Latias-: its more
18:09 -Latias-: streched out
18:10 _Meep_: yea
18:10 _Meep_: i tried stretching it out,without much notice
18:10 _Meep_: Its more of a
18:10 _Meep_: star
18:10 _Meep_: with its sides changing positions every few times
18:10 -Latias-: ye
18:11 -Latias-: 00:58:465 (3,5) -
18:11 _Meep_: well,this is the only part in the song
18:11 _Meep_: where the jumps r so big
18:11 -Latias-: not quite stacked
18:11 _Meep_: lol
18:11 -Latias-: lol
18:12 -Latias-: 01:06:833 (2,2) -
18:12 _Meep_: u want me to stack em?
18:13 -Latias-: ye
18:13 -Latias-: same with 01:06:833 (2,2)
18:13 -Latias-: 01:10:465 (2)
18:13 -Latias-: intentinal overlap with
18:13 _Meep_: fixed
18:13 -Latias-: 01:11:412 (1)
18:13 -Latias-: ?
18:14 _Meep_: no
18:14 _Meep_: but its with the pattern
18:14 _Meep_: and in play it doesn't seem to affect aesthetics
18:14 -Latias-: ye
18:14 -Latias-: but just wondering
18:14 _Meep_: I've spectated alot of people
18:14 _Meep_: xd
18:15 -Latias-: 01:30:360 (1)
18:15 -Latias-: imo
18:15 -Latias-: should be a huge repeater
18:15 -Latias-: 01:30:360 (1) -
18:15 -Latias-: woops
18:15 _Meep_: wut.
18:15 -Latias-: 01:31:623
18:15 _Meep_: wat u mean by that XD
18:15 -Latias-: instead of one big slider
18:15 -Latias-: you could make it a repeater
18:16 _Meep_: Nah
18:16 _Meep_: One big beautiful slider that plays perfectly to both piano and vocals should be fine
18:16 _Meep_: that feels like overmapping this calm part
18:16 _Meep_: so no xd
18:16 -Latias-: xd
18:16 -Latias-: also a question
18:17 -Latias-: why not include kiai time at
18:17 -Latias-: 01:07:623
18:17 _Meep_: i just
18:17 _Meep_: dont feel like the kiai should be there
18:17 _Meep_: kiai's normally have 2 parts to it,in most maps and songs
18:17 _Meep_: in this,likewise
18:17 _Meep_: If you make the whole thing kiai
18:18 _Meep_: 01:12:675 - stuff like this won't be so exaggerated/fun to play
18:18 _Meep_: it'd feel repetitive
18:18 -Latias-: ok
18:18 -Latias-: let me play it
18:18 -Latias-: cause something else is bothering me
18:18 -Latias-: but i cant really see it if i dont play it
18:19 _Meep_: XD sure
18:19 -Latias-: +
18:19 -Latias-: oops
18:22 -Latias-: ok
18:22 -Latias-: so
18:22 -Latias-: it wasnt what i was initially looking for
18:22 -Latias-: but
18:22 -Latias-: its hard to explain
18:23 _Meep_: which
18:23 _Meep_: just say xd
18:23 -Latias-: when you are holding down on a slider
18:23 -Latias-: theres a sound there
18:23 -Latias-: it would be better to add a file
18:23 _Meep_: Oh,ok,i get it
18:23 _Meep_: will get a silent one for it.
18:23 -Latias-: to make to not there
18:23 -Latias-: i can give you one
18:23 _Meep_: sliderslide.wav i think
18:23 _Meep_: gimegime
18:24 -Latias-: https://www.mediafire.com/?90848qv7by513e5
18:24 -Latias-: rename it
18:25 -Latias-: i already had one on my desktop
18:25 -Latias-: xd
18:25 _Meep_: thx xd

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-11-27T23:58:03+00:00

Damn ranking criteria ;w;

I mean it wasn't even that hard to read

Updated the swirl slider

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Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2016-11-29T08:34:54+00:00

Hello!
Sugestion,

General

Your white combo color still too bright during the kiais imo, I think it's better to set the RGB into 210,210,210. A bit darker but still fit with your color haxing
Hitsound file soft-slidertick2 not in use, better delete that

Easy

00:12:675 (2,3) - 00:25:939 (3,1) - and 01:04:465 (3,1) - Some overlap could be more neat imo, maybe readjust a bit into http://puu.sh/sy6vq/ae434360be.jpg ? try to avoid weird overlap on lower diff
00:16:465 (1,3) - Swap their nc for consistency
00:19:623 (1,1) - Shorter the spinner to 00:20:886 - ? I think we should have more than one white tick as a rest time after a spinner before the next note on lower diff like Easy
00:25:307 (2) - Maybe ctrl+h that one? the flow on 00:24:991 (1,2,3) - somehow weird when you placed that one backward, could be something like http://puu.sh/sy6Gz/76707ea008.jpg
00:39:833 (1) - Err the overlapping make the slider path hard to follow, not sure why you that curve slider that way, I think there's more good placed that one, maybe like http://puu.sh/sy714/f5bcb16a24.jpg or something else
00:42:360 - Could be add one more green line for the volume, since the music pitch diffrent and more intense
00:50:570 (1,2,3,1,2) - The movement seems a bit too cramped, maybe readjust a bit ctrl+h this one 00:51:833 (3) - and move the next slider upward like http://puu.sh/sy7ac/94ad95028c.jpg ?
01:13:939 (1) - and 01:16:781 (1) - Delete those nc for consistency on comboing every two down beat
01:30:360 (1) - Have you play that part with lowest resolution? obvious off screen http://puu.sh/sy6oX/e9adc0460c.jpg

Just mention things that bug me a lot, overall really good except some overlap I mention above :p

Normal

00:15:991 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Your 1/2 rhythm on that one way too much imo, even your kiais part doesn't have 1/2 rhythm that many, you could use easier rhythmical to reduce the density
00:18:044 (3,4,5) - The double or triple 1/2 stack on that one seems to hard for this diff imo especially with this high bpm, maybe you could work something easier on that one
00:56:254 (4) - That one doesn't fit with the music or the long vocal imo, why don't you try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/sy7Xc/54b5b37052.jpg ? that one can cover both music and vocal better than the current one
01:08:886 (5,6) - Try to improve the rhythm on that one into http://puu.sh/sy86a/6161407ca1.jpg and the placement can be like http://puu.sh/sy87N/8f1ed4dea4.jpg ? Actually I'm not really sure what do you try to follow on that one
01:27:833 - Volume 10% on that one doesn't make sense lol rather inaudible, we don't have any proper feedback on that one

Good one, love the structure

Hard

00:01:939 - until 00:12:044 - On that part, is the whistle sound on the slider body intentional? yet you don't have that sound on your slider body on Insane, rather inconsistent
00:18:833 (3,4,1) - The flow rather weird imo, maybe you can move (4) to x:450 y:319 like http://puu.sh/sy8uv/7d77141712.jpg? I think you can add more jump on new section here 00:19:623 (1) -
00:55:307 (3) - I found that 1/2 slider a bit weird to be on build up part here 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - since the rest rhythm on that part are circles. I think it could be more variate if this one 00:54:991 (1,2) - replace by 1/2 slider like http://puu.sh/sy8Fd/32f5d07afa.jpg, so the build up more focus on 00:55:623 (4,5,6,1) -

Insane

00:21:360 (2) - Why use 1/4? I think that one more like 1/8, even the Expert diff use 1/8 lol, if you not sure try ask someone good on snapping
00:56:096 (1) - Eventhough you already reduce the nodes on that slider, but still the slider speed seems manipulated by the wiggles, rather questionable case imo, maybe try to ask qat or someone opinion
00:57:517 (1) - Try to stack that one manually like http://puu.sh/sy8XQ/49506f55ee.jpg , so we have clue when the should click that slider after a 1/8

Expert

01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - That part so omg;;. The first part here 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - play just fine but the second part rather overdone because both part have same music intensity imo, maybe you can tone down that part a bit?

Fun map but it could be polished more
Hope that help, good luck~

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2016-11-29T12:54:47+00:00

General
I already pointed out that your source should have had the space removed because toybot.
Add “retryment” to the tags because I can’t find it otherwise
get rid of that ugly score in your testplay section and replace it with this k ty

Insane
I'd highly suggest CS 4 because:
This is a really jumpy map, small CS is cancer for that style
Makes it less farmable, and I'm sure you want people playing your map more
It's smaller than the higher diff
You don't really have anything to lose from it, blankets don't break or stuff

00:11:254 (2) - Slider angle is really sharp for jump that size
00:13:307 (1) - Blanket distance is much smaller compared to all other blankets
00:20:886 (1,2) - This might be too close by a little bit. Overshooting sometimes and frequently getting early 100s on 00:22:149 (1) -
00:22:781 (3) - Weird slider shape
00:39:833 (1) - This blanket isn't "perfect", but probably good enough
00:45:202 (2) - This needs to be more to the right to keep flow, currently breaks it because of circle movement stuff not happening.
00:17:412 (2) - ^ kind of the same but move left, less of an issue
00:47:412 (1) - This needs to be farther away because it's the highest note of the violin, looks smaller than 00:47:096 (3,4) - i think
00:52:781 (1) - Higher SV causes an overshoot on the next slider, add more space between 00:52:781 (1) - tail and 00:52:781 (1) - head
01:05:096 (1) - and 01:05:728 (1) - These aren't rotationally symmetrical, yet 01:05:728 (1) - and 01:06:360 (1) - are.
01:09:991 (5) - There's nothing wrong with this but I shouldn't get a kd bc I already got one from here, but I'm shooting it back so idgaf
01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Issues on the stream and the flow. When 01:18:044 (2,3) - pop up it alerts the player they need to turn around, so by instinct they slow the cursor down so it can go back up. This results in the end of the stream being missed. Fix this by curving the stream more, or having it somehow turn around so it naturally leads to the next circles.
I would fix it by blanketing the stream around 01:16:307 (1) - , and then doing ctrl-j + ctrl-h for everything that comes after it so it doesn't have the turnaround issue.
01:22:781 (1) - Improve flow by decreasing slider curve, since it breaks the circle flow. Could keep if you want.
01:24:991 (3) - Just a little too horizontal, angle by like 2 degrees more
Sliders must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end, some of your slider arts are ambiguous as to which direction you're supposed to go in.
00:56:096 (1) - Get rid of the part that looks like a dog shit because it is impossible to read. We're snapping from massive pp jumps to a sudden change in SV because of the path it follows. (Ok it's readable after a couple attempts, but not the first ones)
01:30:360 (1) - ctrl-h, it's got too much anti flow like this, the flow implies going the other way.
01:19:939 (3,1) - compare to 00:02:412 (2,3) - bc it's same but different
01:35:412 (1) - just remove it no need to keep, some people are going to lose acc on it and hate you for it.

oh shit there's more than one diff in the set, oops

Hard

00:04:939 (2) - Anti flow is too strong here
00:20:728 (2) - Flows better on the other side
01:02:570 (1) - Doesn't really fit the flow at all
dum blanket stuff
00:22:781 (2) - tail too close
00:27:833 (3) - head too close but it's so tiny who even gives a shit
00:57:202 (1) - can this blanket the slider end?
01:10:465 (2) - tail too close
01:17:728 (1) - head too close
01:25:307 (1,3) - bad blanket
01:26:412 (3,1) - Right side too close

Normal
01:15:202 (1,2) - might be more interesting if rotated 5 degrees, either way is fine
oh hey it's the guy I did that terrible CtB diff for ages ago, gl with ranking 2nd best girl's song

Easy
00:14:570 (1) - This goes into the HP bar, most of the approach circle is missing too. Move down.
01:09:517 (5) - slider tail is blanketed too close by like 1 pixel, noticeable because of high note density in the area
01:15:202 (1,2) - I'd prefer it if it was just simplified to 1/1, the other 1/2 at 00:56:096 (2) - is fine bc it's followed by a break. Just simplify this one.
tbh i'm just lazy on low diffs because it's rare a map gets DQd for low diff stuff

Expert
00:25:939 (1,2,3) - check blanket, right side is closer
00:51:675 (2,5) - bad blanket if it's meant to be one
01:15:991 (4,1) - ^
01:26:254 (4,5,1,2,3) - bit weird how it became so vertical/up down only so suddenly

not much to say about non-_meep_ maps because they're outside my preferred diff level

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-11-29T15:35:07+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Expert
01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - That part so omg;;. The first part here 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - play just fine but the second part rather overdone because both part have same music intensity imo, maybe you can tone down that part a bit? It's supposed to be the "spike". Every jump is little bit longer and imo it should be fine. Instead of getting the spacing as a surprise like in Xexxar's, Lasse's or even Toybot's difficulties it is somewhat expectable in my difficulty
Fun map but it could be polished more
Hope that help, good luck~

Sinnoh wrote:
Expert
00:25:939 (1,2,3) - check blanket, right side is closer One pixel............................................................................... fix'd
00:51:675 (2,5) - bad blanket if it's meant to be one Not meant to be one. It just redirects the players to the next note
01:15:991 (4,1) - ^ Pattern got changed (self modding)
01:26:254 (4,5,1,2,3) - bit weird how it became so vertical/up down only so suddenly I like it .-. I may tweak it by a bit

not much to say about non-_meep_ maps because they're outside my preferred diff level

Thanks for modding~

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_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-11-29T16:22:32+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Hello!
Sugestion,

General
Your white combo color still too bright during the kiais imo, I think it's better to set the RGB into 210,210,210. A bit darker but still fit with your color haxing
Hitsound file soft-slidertick2 not in use, better delete that
Hard
00:01:939 - until 00:12:044 - On that part, is the whistle sound on the slider body intentional? yet you don't have that sound on your slider body on Insane, rather inconsistent Fixed
00:18:833 (3,4,1) - The flow rather weird imo, maybe you can move (4) to x:450 y:319 like http://puu.sh/sy8uv/7d77141712.jpg? I think you can add more jump on new section here 00:19:623 (1) - Fixed
00:55:307 (3) - I found that 1/2 slider a bit weird to be on build up part here 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - since the rest rhythm on that part are circles. I think it could be more variate if this one 00:54:991 (1,2) - replace by 1/2 slider like http://puu.sh/sy8Fd/32f5d07afa.jpg, so the build up more focus on 00:55:623 (4,5,6,1) - Fixed
Insane
00:21:360 (2) - Why use 1/4? I think that one more like 1/8, even the Expert diff use 1/8 lol, if you not sure try ask someone good on snapping Made it 1/8 as you said,though this sound doesn't really have any indication whether it is 1/8 or 1/6 or 1/4,so I guess any is fine so long as it fits the song
00:56:096 (1) - Eventhough you already reduce the nodes on that slider, but still the slider speed seems manipulated by the wiggles, rather questionable case imo, maybe try to ask qat or someone opinion Fixed to make it clearer and easier to play rather than a million wiggles
00:57:517 (1) - Try to stack that one manually like http://puu.sh/sy8XQ/49506f55ee.jpg , so we have clue when the should click that slider after a 1/8 Fixed
Fun map but it could be polished more
Hope that help, good luck~

Thanks for modding

Sinnoh wrote:

General
I already pointed out that your source should have had the space removed because toybot.
Add “retryment” to the tags because I can’t find it otherwise Fixed
get rid of that ugly score in your testplay section and replace it with this k ty I only submit first plays and yours is no exception ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Insane
I'd highly suggest CS 4 because:
This is a really jumpy map, small CS is cancer for that style To me I felt that this CS fit the song really well,and i don't see any reason to take it off,the only really big jumps I feel are hard are the giant triangles
Makes it less farmable, and I'm sure you want people playing your map more I do lol,but it's more enjoyable as it is now
It's smaller than the higher diff Like I said before, stuff like Irre's maps have smaller cs despite their difficulty not going up higher than the higher diff. I understand that because mine is an insane,it should be easier to play rather than in other maps,where extras have the lower cs,do not,as players of that level should already accustom themselves to different situations, however I felt that in this song I liked the CS a lot and fits it as an insane,along with my mapping style.
You don't really have anything to lose from it, blankets don't break or stuff Thats the least of my worries XD
00:11:254 (2) - Slider angle is really sharp for jump that size I use a slightly more annoying angle here in order to emphasize the large sounds in the music played on the sliderheads.
00:13:307 (1) - Blanket distance is much smaller compared to all other blanketslk Fixed
00:20:886 (1,2) - This might be too close by a little bit. Overshooting sometimes and frequently getting early 100s on 00:22:149 (1) - Don't exactly agree with this,since it's a 2 tick difference,the note could be anywhere
00:22:781 (3) - Weird slider shape Seems ok to me lul
00:39:833 (1) - This blanket isn't "perfect", but probably good enough xd gud enuf
00:45:202 (2) - This needs to be more to the right to keep flow, currently breaks it because of circle movement stuff not happening. You mean the left? Because making it more to the right causes the circle movement stuff to not happen either lol,it makes it even harder nonetheless,so I think I'll make it more to the left
00:17:412 (2) - ^ kind of the same but move left, less of an issue Fixed this tho lul
00:47:412 (1) - This needs to be farther away because it's the highest note of the violin, looks smaller than 00:47:096 (3,4) - i think Fixed
00:52:781 (1) - Higher SV causes an overshoot on the next slider, add more space between 00:52:781 (1) - tail and 00:52:781 (1) - head Fixed

01:05:096 (1) - and 01:05:728 (1) - These aren't rotationally symmetrical, yet 01:05:728 (1) - and 01:06:360 (1) - are. Fixed.naisu catch
01:09:991 (5) - There's nothing wrong with this but I shouldn't get a kd bc I already got one from here, but I'm shooting it back so idgaf wut. lol
01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Issues on the stream and the flow. When 01:18:044 (2,3) - pop up it alerts the player they need to turn around, so by instinct they slow the cursor down so it can go back up. This results in the end of the stream being missed. Fix this by curving the stream more, or having it somehow turn around so it naturally leads to the next circles. Fixed practically the whole section afterwards as well
I would fix it by blanketing the stream around 01:16:307 (1) - , and then doing ctrl-j + ctrl-h for everything that comes after it so it doesn't have the turnaround issue.
01:22:781 (1) - Improve flow by decreasing slider curve, since it breaks the circle flow. Could keep if you want. Nah keepin' it
01:24:991 (3) - Just a little too horizontal, angle by like 2 degrees more I think u mean 01:25:307 (1) - but fixed
Sliders must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end, some of your slider arts are ambiguous as to which direction you're supposed to go in. if ur talking about the wiggle one,its fixed
if ur talking about the last slider,there are clearly 1. Sldier ticks/stars to follow before the slider even starts
2. sliderend can be seen
3. if people use skins that
00:56:096 (1) - Get rid of the part that looks like a dog shit because it is impossible to read. We're snapping from massive pp jumps to a sudden change in SV because of the path it follows. It's readable after a couple attempts, but not the first ones. Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - ctrl-h, it's got too much anti flow like this, the flow implies going the other way. Tbh I don't exactly like it going the other way,and there isn't exactly any flow here considering all the 1/1 gaps lul
01:19:939 (3,1) - compare to 00:02:412 (2,3) - bc it's same but different I guess its fixed,but the piano notes played are different.
01:35:412 (1) - just remove it no need to keep, some people are going to lose acc on it and hate you for it. Fine ;w;
oh shit there's more than one diff in the set, oops

Hard
00:04:939 (2) - Anti flow is too strong here Doesn't feel too strong to me tbh.
00:20:728 (2) - Flows better on the other side This note isn't even needed LUL didn't notice,its deleted
01:02:570 (1) - Doesn't really fit the flow at all I'll consider that,but as of now,it's a repeat so that I won't need to map 01:03:044 - ,which is a triple sound,and its pretty sudden for a hard diff,and its to construct the flow from 1-2-3
dum blanket stuff
00:22:781 (2) - tail too close Fixed
00:27:833 (3) - head too close but it's so tiny who even gives a shit Fixed
00:57:202 (1) - can this blanket the slider end? Fixed
01:10:465 (2) - tail too close Fixed
01:17:728 (1) - head too close Fixed
01:25:307 (1,3) - bad blanket Fixed
01:26:412 (3,1) - Right side too close Fixed
not much to say about non-_meep_ maps because they're outside my preferred diff level

'not much to say' this is half a page long LOL

Thanks for modding

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-11-29T19:36:53+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
Normal :

check aimod - ? Everything is fine.

00:18:044 (3,4,5) - maybe avoide this triple stack - ok
00:15:991 (1) - remove nc to be consistent with nc - ok
00:41:254 (1) - ^ also nc on red tick is better avoided - sure
00:45:833 (2,3) - this over lap not appealing maybe stack on this slider tail 00:44:254 (5) - Oh, my bad, fixed
01:30:360 (1,3) - this overlap dont look nice also its not simple for a normal difficulty maybe try this placements
http://puu.sh/snHL8/49b343d745.jpg - okay
01:35:412 - the finish here doesnt fit imo the music is fading maybe make the volume fading from 15 to 5 - you're right

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
[Normal]
00:44:254 (5,2,3) - ugly overlap (why dont you just stacked them?) - already done
00:56:096 (3,4) - ctrl g for better rhythm - ok seems good

good diff - thanks

Liena wrote:
Normal
00:01:939 (1,2,3) -really weird try http://i.imgur.com/P0m0Cfk.jpg should work better, same as 00:06:991 (1,2,3) - maybe its better, but i dont want to change this rhythm
00:15:991 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - too long rhythm i recommend simplify and 00:18:044 (3,4,5) - 3 stacks is not acceptable in normal i recommend fix it - fixed
01:27:833 (1) - I dont think that has to be quiet, you can increase volume a bit. - okay

smau5 wrote:
619's Normal:
01:02:412 (6) - i feel like you should take this out or add a circle at the beginning of the chrous like this http://i.imgur.com/LhGccKd.png idk how to explain it well but something with the rhythm (?) - I like it as it is
01:06:991 (4) - add finish sound - ok
01:11:412 (3) - 01:12:675 (1) - 01:13:939 (4) - 01:15:202 (1) - 01:15:675 (2) - 01:16:307 (4) - add finish to the sliderheads to add hype to the build up - done

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
[619's Normal]
00:19:623 (1,2,1) - did you saw this? stack looks... ugly ^^U (remember active the Stacking in view menu)
le ugly
- fixed, thanks
01:15:202 (1,2) - I feel this flow annoying u.u but I think its because rhythm, please, consider this option:
- i'll try

Mako Sakata wrote:
Normal
00:15:991 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Your 1/2 rhythm on that one way too much imo, even your kiais part doesn't have 1/2 rhythm that many, you could use easier rhythmical to reduce the density - okay ><
00:18:044 (3,4,5) - The double or triple 1/2 stack on that one seems to hard for this diff imo especially with this high bpm, maybe you could work something easier on that one - sure
00:56:254 (4) - That one doesn't fit with the music or the long vocal imo, why don't you try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/sy7Xc/54b5b37052.jpg ? that one can cover both music and vocal better than the current one - looking good
01:08:886 (5,6) - Try to improve the rhythm on that one into http://puu.sh/sy86a/6161407ca1.jpg and the placement can be like http://puu.sh/sy87N/8f1ed4dea4.jpg ? Actually I'm not really sure what do you try to follow on that one - ok
01:27:833 - Volume 10% on that one doesn't make sense lol rather inaudible, we don't have any proper feedback on that one - already fixed

Good one, love the structure - ><

Sinnoh wrote:
Normal
01:15:202 (1,2) - might be more interesting if rotated 5 degrees, either way is fine - i'll try
oh hey it's the guy I did that terrible CtB diff for ages ago, gl with ranking 2nd best girl's song - i cant ><

Thanks guys for mods!

oh too many mods
teach me how to collect mods

update

619

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Hikan

430 posts

Joined February 2016

Hikan 2016-11-30T16:55:45+00:00

irc mod, kds pls owo

23:23 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6694966
23:23 Hikan: welp
23:23 Hikan: XD
23:24 _Meep_: XD
23:24 _Meep_: naisu
23:24 _Meep_: i need help polishing it
23:24 _Meep_: to its best
23:24 _Meep_: sadlyfe
23:25 _Meep_: ofak i see a problem already
23:25 _Meep_: LOL
23:25 Hikan: which?
23:26 _Meep_: 00:13:307 -
23:26 _Meep_: dem overlaps
23:26 _Meep_: fixed tho
23:26 _Meep_: 00:27:517 - i need help here
23:26 _Meep_: this part looks gay
23:27 Hikan: yea..
23:30 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6695018
23:30 Hikan: maybe this? xd
23:31 Hikan: I'm just able to give you an idea, since my modding skill is shjt
23:31 _Meep_: its ok xd im trying it now
23:32 _Meep_: done
23:32 _Meep_: priti gud
23:32 _Meep_: u can go get ur kds LOL
23:32 _Meep_: #howtogetSP
23:34 Hikan: lol really
23:34 _Meep_: sry lol
23:34 _Meep_: need to fix BSS glitch
23:34 _Meep_: so need to relog
23:34 Hikan: 00:32:254 (5) - 
23:35 Hikan: this is kinda weird,
23:35 _Meep_: yewut
23:35 _Meep_: ;o
23:35 Hikan: do not stack downbeat
23:35 _Meep_: I made the pattern so that it starts with 2 notes and ends with 2 notes
23:36 _Meep_: There isn't really any ideal place for it anyway,I can't find a spot where a player would find this last note to be comfortable to play
23:36 Hikan: new pattern lol
23:36 _Meep_: but this is nice to play ;w;
23:37 _Meep_: it took me like fakin 15 mods to change it too this D:
23:37 _Meep_: im out of ideas at this point for this jump lol
23:38 Hikan: maybe just delete 00:32:097 (4) - 
23:38 _Meep_: theres a piano note tho
23:38 _Meep_: lol
23:39 Hikan: then move 00:31:307 (3,4,1,2,3) - 
23:39 Hikan: to the next 1/2 tick, do you get it? xD
23:39 Hikan: then add a note at 00:31:307 - and stack it with (3)
23:39 _Meep_: o LOL
23:40 _Meep_: done
23:40 _Meep_: ;d
23:41 Hikan: lol I'm just giving you my idea, feel free to refuse it lol
23:42 _Meep_: i'll keep it
23:42 _Meep_: people are pissed off because the downbeat isn't nced
23:42 _Meep_: lol
23:43 Hikan: why does it need nc lol
23:43 _Meep_: idk
23:43 _Meep_: i gtg,seeya xd
23:43 Hikan: okay bai xd

SPOILER

about 00:30:991 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - , I mean those are 2 stacks at the starting of that jump, it will look like this
00:31:149 - there is a piano sound here, so don't leave it lul

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-11-30T22:17:20+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Easy
00:12:675 (2,3) - 00:25:939 (3,1) - and 01:04:465 (3,1) - Some overlap could be more neat imo, maybe readjust a bit into http://puu.sh/sy6vq/ae434360be.jpg ? try to avoid weird overlap on lower diff fixed 1 and 2 but not the third, i think its nice as it is tbh
00:16:465 (1,3) - Swap their nc for consistency yessir
00:19:623 (1,1) - Shorter the spinner to 00:20:886 - ? I think we should have more than one white tick as a rest time after a spinner before the next note on lower diff like Easy ok changed, everyone hated this and after further examination, the spinner is still clearable with 240 rpm even after missing an entire second of spinning so its definitely manageable
00:25:307 (2) - Maybe ctrl+h that one? the flow on 00:24:991 (1,2,3) - somehow weird when you placed that one backward, could be something like http://puu.sh/sy6Gz/76707ea008.jpg nice! also, i ctrl h 00:25:939 (3) - to adjust aesthetic
00:39:833 (1) - Err the overlapping make the slider path hard to follow, not sure why you that curve slider that way, I think there's more good placed that one, maybe like http://puu.sh/sy714/f5bcb16a24.jpg or something else o dam that look good
00:42:360 - Could be add one more green line for the volume, since the music pitch diffrent and more intense raised 10%
00:50:570 (1,2,3,1,2) - The movement seems a bit too cramped, maybe readjust a bit ctrl+h this one 00:51:833 (3) - and move the next slider upward like http://puu.sh/sy7ac/94ad95028c.jpg ? you just
01:13:939 (1) - and 01:16:781 (1) - Delete those nc for consistency on comboing every two down beat made it
01:30:360 (1) - Have you play that part with lowest resolution? obvious off screen http://puu.sh/sy6oX/e9adc0460c.jpg perfect

Just mention things that bug me a lot, overall really good except some overlap I mention above :p

mom i like this guy (7* ^_^)7

Sinnoh wrote:
Easy
00:14:570 (1) - This goes into the HP bar, most of the approach circle is missing too. Move down. yes
01:09:517 (5) - slider tail is blanketed too close by like 1 pixel, noticeable because of high note density in the area UHM WHAT THE HECKIN FRICK DANG IT
01:15:202 (1,2) - I'd prefer it if it was just simplified to 1/1, the other 1/2 at 00:56:096 (2) - is fine bc it's followed by a break. Just simplify this one. but why tho, its equal intensity and regardless of break or not, this is one of the few times the diff warrants 1/2, i dont see the issue here tbhaych
tbh i'm just lazy on low diffs because it's rare a map gets DQd for low diff stuff same

thakn big

here's a box full of kittens and love

its actually a box of kittens and love lol

ok here's the updated version lo

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Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2016-12-01T10:45:25+00:00

Just some stuff

02:05 _Meep_: kocari
02:05 _Meep_: can u help check my map ;o
02:05 Kocari: sure
02:05 _Meep_: or testplay
02:05 *_Meep_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT]
02:05 _Meep_: thanks :D
02:06 Kocari: oh hey
02:06 Kocari: this one
02:06 _Meep_: yea
02:06 Kocari: insane?
02:06 _Meep_: lost to toybot.. ;w;
02:06 _Meep_: yea
02:06 Kocari: ook ima try it
02:07 _Meep_: wtf cant spec lol
02:09 _Meep_: nice play xd
02:09 _Meep_: dat acc tho
02:09 _Meep_: ;o
02:11 Kocari: I kinda missread this
02:11 Kocari: it was closer than your other stacks
02:11 _Meep_: ?
02:11 _Meep_: which one
02:11 Kocari: 00:32:886 (2) - 
02:11 _Meep_: Closer than my other stacks? ;o
02:11 Kocari: yeah
02:11 Kocari: it felt almost like a 3/4 
02:13 _Meep_: Hmm
02:13 _Meep_: should I push the 1/1 slider 2 ticks back and have the note stack ontop of 00:33:517 (4) - ?
02:14 Kocari:  its fine regardless
02:14 Kocari: but I will tell you that
02:14 Kocari: that area for dt
02:14 _Meep_: ?
02:14 Kocari: I cant wait for it
02:14 _Meep_: LOL
02:14 Kocari: going to watch people grind this map
02:14 Kocari: is g oing to make me laugh when
02:15 _Meep_: meh,its an insane
02:15 _Meep_: might as well grind toybot's
02:15 _Meep_: XD
02:15 Kocari: nah
02:15 Kocari: give or take
02:15 Kocari: this insane
02:15 Kocari: 330pp
02:15 _Meep_: my god
02:15 _Meep_: i want that pp
02:15 Kocari: but its good as is
02:15 *_Meep_ prepares touchscreen 
02:15 Kocari: no changes will be needed
02:15 _Meep_: uh,can i ask?
02:15 _Meep_: some questions
02:15 _Meep_: XD
02:15 Kocari: sure
02:16 _Meep_: 00:41:254 - I NCed this part every 2 notes,though
02:16 _Meep_: I didn't NC 00:30:991 -
02:16 _Meep_: is it fine?
02:16 Kocari: it is fine but to be consistent I would make it the same 
02:16 Kocari: they are both the same thing
02:17 Kocari: and having that slight change people might get nitpicky with their mods
02:17 _Meep_: but piano notes played are different
02:17 _Meep_: thats the confusing part XD
02:17 Kocari: I don't think its distinctive enough to make a difference 
02:17 _Meep_: Well,NC's change how people see a pattern
02:18 _Meep_: 00:41:728 (1,2,1,2) - Without the NCs,people may have trouble reading this since its back and forth
02:18 _Meep_: and for the previous pattern at 31s, it doesn't require NCs
02:18 _Meep_: so im confused af LOL
02:18 Kocari: in this day and era
02:18 Kocari: I wouldnt see anyone miss that
02:18 _Meep_: o
02:18 _Meep_: lol
02:19 Kocari: kibb can even play that
02:19 _Meep_: 00:57:202 (1,1) - Should I stack these?
02:19 Kocari: and I use his playing for benchmarking things
02:19 _Meep_: kibb made a diff for daoski's set
02:19 _Meep_: xd
02:19 Kocari: you dont have to stack
02:19 Kocari: it brings a good effect
02:19 _Meep_: kibb2pro
02:19 _Meep_: ok
02:20 _Meep_: 01:30:360 (1) - dank sliderart
02:20 _Meep_: lol
02:20 Kocari: indeed
02:21 _Meep_: Can u help check if the hard is ok?
02:22 Kocari: Im concerned with how this might play for beginners though 00:29:096 (6,7) - 
02:22 _Meep_: I agree
02:22 _Meep_: but they will need to learn soon >:
02:22 Kocari: ctrl G both may work
02:23 _Meep_: o
02:23 _Meep_: nvr noticed that
02:23 _Meep_: gona change
02:23 Kocari: 00:42:202 - 
02:23 Kocari: missing a note here
02:23 Kocari: for the piano
02:23 _Meep_: if I add a note,it wouldn't emphasize the sounds on the reverse slider
02:23 _Meep_: the ts ts ts
02:24 _Meep_: sound
02:24 _Meep_: tsze or whatever sound it is
02:25 Kocari: but since how you layed out 00:31:307 (1,2,3,4) - 
02:25 Kocari: you mapped that particular sound
02:25 Kocari: even if they are different
02:25 _Meep_: D:
02:25 _Meep_: there isn't anything else to map to on 00:31:307 - than the piano sounds tho
02:25 _Meep_: lol
02:25 Kocari: plus the pattern to me doesn't look all that great00:40:939 (3,4,5,6) - 
02:26 _Meep_: D:
02:26 _Meep_: any suggestions? ;o
02:26 Kocari: yeah doing some right now
02:27 _Meep_: ima try as well
02:27 Kocari: ok done
02:27 _Meep_: yey xd
02:27 Kocari: http://puu.sh/sAsYe/6cb023cfc2.jpg
02:28 Kocari: and you can stack 00:42:360 (1) - on where (4) was placed
02:29 _Meep_: hmm,trying it
02:30 Kocari: I took your idea of leaving out a note at 00:42:833 (2) - It sounds  quite sounds but you can do it if you want
02:30 _Meep_: it sounds quite sounds? o-o
02:31 Kocari: I meant to say exquisite but autocorrect
02:31 _Meep_: wtf is that autocorrect LOL
02:31 Kocari: dont ask me
02:32 Kocari: tell me when you're done I can move on to the next
02:32 _Meep_: Done
02:32 _Meep_: made 00:42:833 -  a 1/1 slider
02:32 _Meep_: so as to delete that note
02:33 Kocari: good stuff
02:33 Kocari: 00:48:044 (3,1) - same as before
02:33 Kocari: might be in a situation where it will feel strange to play for beginners
02:33 _Meep_: Ctrl+G'd
02:33 _Meep_: yea,this diff is kind of low SR
02:33 _Meep_: beginners may play this for experience
02:33 Kocari: this note just seems like an outlier 00:51:202 (1) - 
02:34 _Meep_: whats an outlier
02:34 _Meep_: o-o
02:34 Kocari: something that stands out a lot
02:34 _Meep_: Well,it is like,a lone note
02:34 _Meep_: XD
02:34 Kocari: you can make it closer if you want thats up to you
02:35 Kocari: or move it more
02:35 Kocari: to the left
02:35 _Meep_: ok
02:35 _Meep_: just gona put it straight on the middle but same height
02:35 Kocari: ayy
02:35 _Meep_: o lol wow
02:36 Kocari: 00:55:306 (2,3,4,5,6) - 
02:36 _Meep_: https://gyazo.com/4da838036a6ae2f52c913cb8ce68274f
02:36 _Meep_: my skills r dank
02:36 _Meep_: lol
02:36 _Meep_: what about those? ;o
02:36 Kocari: It might be a killer for some people 
02:36 _Meep_: True
02:36 Kocari: you have sounds gradually increasing
02:36 _Meep_: moving in one straight direction
02:36 Kocari: but its just linear
02:36 _Meep_: is pretty hard
02:36 _Meep_: It wasn't linear before
02:37 _Meep_: but people said the previous one was too hard
02:37 Kocari: for a pattern so straight forward
02:37 Kocari: this is the hardest thing Ive seen so far
02:37 Kocari: even I struggle to play it if it was faster
02:37 _Meep_: XD
02:37 _Meep_: same
02:37 _Meep_: on dt its death
02:37 Kocari: thats up to you to do what you want 
02:38 _Meep_: I'll keep it for now
02:38 _Meep_: till noobs start complaining
02:38 _Meep_: lol
02:38 Kocari: I like it but idk what others might have to say 01:05:412 (2,1,2,1,2) - 
02:38 Kocari: dont see a lot of these
02:38 _Meep_: No one uses this lol
02:38 _Meep_: previously the sliders weren't rotated so much
02:38 Kocari: well not in hard
02:38 _Meep_: but refaller said it was simply just moving your mouse up and down
02:38 _Meep_: so i rotated it more
02:38 Kocari: yeah
02:38 Kocari: it really is
02:39 _Meep_: I mean,it's more of a reading challenge
02:39 Kocari: boxy pattern is boxy 01:14:886 (4,1,2,3) - 
02:39 _Meep_: XD
02:39 _Meep_: nvr noticed that
02:39 Kocari: It will feel off to people because of such little sharp movements 
02:40 _Meep_: True
02:40 _Meep_: its more of just straight and going with the flow
02:40 Kocari: I wonder whos going to tell you that this can be mapped out 01:26:570 - 
02:40 _Meep_: vocals
02:40 Kocari: since both piano sounds you have are mapped out on the sliderstart of 01:25:307 (1,2) - 
02:40 _Meep_: ;d
02:41 _Meep_: or if u want me to make a sliderart that bends at 01:26:570 - ,im fine
02:41 _Meep_: lol
02:41 Kocari: its just the fact that in that slider the sound stands out a lot
02:41 Kocari: and people might catch on that when modding
02:42 _Meep_: true,I'll try to consider that
02:42 Kocari: tell me how many people bring it up 
02:42 Kocari: if they mod it
02:42 _Meep_: XD
02:42 _Meep_: so far,none
02:42 Kocari: some boosted modders
02:42 Kocari: you're bring in
02:42 _Meep_: probs when a bn comes in
02:43 _Meep_: updated
02:43 _Meep_: me wants ranked soon D:
02:44 Kocari: Ill talk to someone about this tomorrow
02:44 Kocari: see where I can take it
02:44 _Meep_: yay,thanks :D

ErunamoJAZZ

osu! Alumni

2,794 posts

Joined August 2012

ErunamoJAZZ 2016-12-02T04:34:21+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:
[Yoshimaro's Easy ]
quick! better go bring that up in the other thread too!
Just for science...
https://puu.sh/sBlGn/7295c526f6.png
https://puu.sh/sBlKW/5daf42b314.png

Notice, both have a weird spread :S
straight from the article you linked later
It is valid only for slow songs. By example, if a song is 85 BPM or so, it is valid (example). But not in this case (190BPM is high).

i dont understand whats wrong about how the rhythm is now, read wise or function wise, it is 1/1 the notes are easy to follow, what is wrong with a circle in easy diff
The wrong is: this is not noob friendly!!

first one bad example since the circle does not appear until after the slider is gone, kiai ones have ~490ms to read (this is enough time, come on)
did you ask for real live testplay?? are you 100% sure about it??

it has 2 measures? whats wrong
Nope, Im not wrong. Ask to any QAT if you are not sure ^^

Little check.

Remember remove 00:56:096 (2) - 01:16:307 (2) -
01:30:360 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more intuitive.
Flow feel a mess in some sections yet

EDIT:

hmm.. maybe because usually they dont rank maps with bad easy diff?? idk, 2k16 is a ugly year for mapping in many ways

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2016-12-02T06:06:55+00:00

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
EDIT:

hmm.. maybe because usually they dont rank maps with bad easy diff?? idk, 2k16 is a ugly year for mapping in many ways

whoops i forgot my /s

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-12-02T08:27:00+00:00

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
- Yoshimaro - wrote:
[Yoshimaro's Easy ]
quick! better go bring that up in the other thread too!
Just for science...
https://puu.sh/sBlGn/7295c526f6.png
https://puu.sh/sBlKW/5daf42b314.png

Notice, both have a weird spread :S
this spread is not those spreads, so again, go bring that up over there and quit villainizing my difficulty
straight from the article you linked later
It is valid only for slow songs. By example, if a song is 85 BPM or so, it is valid (example). But not in this case (190BPM is high).

i dont understand whats wrong about how the rhythm is now, read wise or function wise, it is 1/1 the notes are easy to follow, what is wrong with a circle in easy diff
The wrong is: this is not noob friendly!! responded below

first one bad example since the circle does not appear until after the slider is gone, kiai ones have ~490ms to read (this is enough time, come on)
did you ask for real live testplay?? are you 100% sure about it?? yeah actually im definitely 100% positive about it but even then i dont think anything is going to convince you so ill just change it (for reference, the one miss was 01:23:728 (1) - because he hit too early, so even changing that note to a slider would have no effect).

it has 2 measures? whats wrong
Nope, Im not wrong. Ask to any QAT if you are not sure ^^ i changed it from Mako mod
Little check.

Remember remove 00:56:096 (2) - 01:16:307 (2) - ill change these since you wont leave me alone but next time you should really at least be consistent with what you're complaining about.
01:30:360 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more intuitive. i disagree
Flow feel a mess in some sections yet k

EDIT:

hmm.. maybe because usually they dont rank maps with bad easy diff?? idk, 2k16 is a ugly year for mapping in many ways yeah i agree my easy diff is bad 100% unplayable

and wow! the diff STILL hasn't gone down!

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256,192,93044,12,6,95413,0:1:0:0:

irc from testplayer

23:29 - Yoshimaro -: hi you have no idea who i am and we've never spoken a word to eachother before
23:29 - Yoshimaro -: but can i convince you to testplay a map really quick
23:30 - Yoshimaro -: its 1.61 star and is short, i just need a testplayer before it gets ranked
23:30 Saphiretuna: ummmm
23:30 Saphiretuna: ok sure ig
23:30 - Yoshimaro -: lo thanks yeah this is random but thanks
23:30 *- Yoshimaro - is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1104940 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT]
23:30 - Yoshimaro -: yoshimaro's easy
23:31 Saphiretuna: ok ill try it
23:34 - Yoshimaro -: dope
23:34 - Yoshimaro -: thanks c:
23:34 Saphiretuna: ok im done
23:34 Saphiretuna: it was pretty good
23:34 Saphiretuna: ill try it faster
23:34 - Yoshimaro -: o ok go for it
23:37 - Yoshimaro -: alright thats all
23:37 - Yoshimaro -: thanks for testplay c:
23:37 Saphiretuna: your welks

Karen

2,874 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-12-03T06:34:21+00:00

irc mod

2016-12-03 14:06 Karen: the last slider
2016-12-03 14:06 Karen: unrankable
2016-12-03 14:06 _Meep_: nice play xd
2016-12-03 14:06 _Meep_: it isn't unrankable o-o
2016-12-03 14:06 _Meep_: but why tho
2016-12-03 14:06 _Meep_: Both sliderend and sliderhead can be seen clearly
2016-12-03 14:07 _Meep_: Sliderstars/tick move in the direction of the sliderball before the slider even starts
2016-12-03 14:07 Karen: http://puu.sh/sCw5T/414dca7ca2.jpg not very clear tho
2016-12-03 14:07 Karen: but seems ok in editor
2016-12-03 14:08 Karen: i didn't get it when testplaying
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: yea,it seems ok in editor xd
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: Were you testing with default skin?
2016-12-03 14:08 Karen: ar9,1 triggers me
2016-12-03 14:08 Karen: 9 is enough :<
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: lol
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: why not ;3
2016-12-03 14:08 Karen: od looks a bit too high as well
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: cs4.4 is bae
2016-12-03 14:08 _Meep_: too
2016-12-03 14:09 _Meep_: Any recommendation for the OD?
2016-12-03 14:09 Karen: small cs requires lower ar
2016-12-03 14:09 _Meep_: o
2016-12-03 14:09 _Meep_: didn't know that
2016-12-03 14:10 Karen: it's experience xd
2016-12-03 14:10 Karen: od 7,9 then
2016-12-03 14:10 Karen: if you want to be fucked
2016-12-03 14:10 _Meep_: od 7.9 it is <:
2016-12-03 14:11 Karen: 00:02:412 (2,3) - why no stack
2016-12-03 14:11 Karen: like 01:21:360 (3,1) -
2016-12-03 14:11 _Meep_: Uh
2016-12-03 14:11 _Meep_: People said it was confusing
2016-12-03 14:11 _Meep_: if I stacked it
2016-12-03 14:12 _Meep_: Because sliderend was barely recognisable
2016-12-03 14:12 Karen: then make them consistent
2016-12-03 14:12 _Meep_: ;w;
2016-12-03 14:12 _Meep_: then I should unstack the others too?
2016-12-03 14:12 Karen: you did much stuff like this
2016-12-03 14:13 Karen: imo you should just stack it
2016-12-03 14:13 Karen: it's good to play
2016-12-03 14:13 _Meep_: ok then XD
2016-12-03 14:13 Karen: 00:19:939 (1) - unnecessary new combo
2016-12-03 14:13 _Meep_: removing
2016-12-03 14:14 Karen: 00:54:833 (6,1) - should be a jump
2016-12-03 14:15 Karen: 00:56:096 (1) - nice slider but it's too fast
2016-12-03 14:15 _Meep_: Hmm,well.since 00:54:360 (5) - is literally at the middle,I can't find any suitable spot for 00:54:833 (6) -
2016-12-03 14:15 Karen: :<
2016-12-03 14:15 _Meep_: D:
2016-12-03 14:16 _Meep_: should I make it sv 1.25?
2016-12-03 14:16 _Meep_: Its 1.4 atm
2016-12-03 14:16 Karen: 00:54:991 (1) - try 176,352
2016-12-03 14:16 Karen: well its not an issue
2016-12-03 14:16 Karen: just surprises ppl in 1st try
2016-12-03 14:16 Karen: 00:57:202 (1) - hitsound
2016-12-03 14:16 _Meep_: 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Is more of a moving star
2016-12-03 14:16 Karen: dont use normal-hitnormal
2016-12-03 14:17 _Meep_: This diff was hitsound-copied,so im kinda clueless about hitsounds x3
2016-12-03 14:17 Karen: you can adjust it, avoid making patterns intentionally like 'star' blabla
2016-12-03 14:17 Karen: soft whistle is fine
2016-12-03 14:18 _Meep_: changed
2016-12-03 14:19 Karen: ok thats all
2016-12-03 14:19 _Meep_: 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - no pepe :^)
2016-12-03 14:19 _Meep_: thats all? o-o
2016-12-03 14:19 Karen: nothing else to complain
2016-12-03 14:19 Karen: o-o
2016-12-03 14:19 _Meep_: ;o
2016-12-03 14:21 _Meep_: do u have any suggestions
2016-12-03 14:21 _Meep_: for the jumps XD
2016-12-03 14:22 Karen: what suggestion
2016-12-03 14:22 Karen: they're good
2016-12-03 14:22 _Meep_: wait
2016-12-03 14:22 _Meep_: u mean i just move the note down and thats it? o-o
2016-12-03 14:23 Karen: ya
2016-12-03 14:23 _Meep_: LOL
2016-12-03 14:23 _Meep_: I thought u meant changing the whole thing XD
2016-12-03 14:24 _Meep_: updating mep <;
2016-12-03 14:24 Karen: :>

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2016-12-03T21:40:25+00:00

No kds since I already modded before, did an IRC with Nowa
There was a part 1 to this from yesterday but don't have the logs there

IRC with Nowa

21:44 _DT3: Should we maybe continue the irc?
21:53 DTM9 Nowa: Okey
21:54 DTM9 Nowa: btw ya running for BN this time aswell?
21:54 _DT3: Yep
21:54 DTM9 Nowa: gl :3
21:54 _DT3: Thx, you too ^^
21:55 _DT3: When is the test anyway?
21:55 DTM9 Nowa: This month, dunno exactly
21:55 _DT3: Ah ok
21:55 DTM9 Nowa: Help me rank my map if you get qualified xd
21:55 _DT3: xd
21:55 _DT3: Actually, I would
21:55 _DT3: You deserve that
21:56 _DT3: 00:56:096 (1) - Here, even if it seems minor, I would increase volume to 65% since it stands out from the other jumps
21:57 DTM9 Nowa: 5% never hurts. Unless it's alcohol
21:57 DTM9 Nowa: Fixed
21:58 _DT3: 00:58:465 (5,6,1) - I think it's a bit weird how this has the "sharper" angle than 01:00:991 (5,6,1) - since 01:00:991 (5,6,1) - is stronger and should need more emphasis with a sharper angle
22:00 DTM9 Nowa: Quite hard to do anything for that if i want to keep the current patterning but i'll see what i can do
22:02 DTM9 Nowa: I think i got it to work
22:02 DTM9 Nowa: xd
22:02 _DT3: xd
22:02 _DT3: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1) - Even if the distance between the hitcircle -> Slider is bigger than Slider -> Hitcircle, I feel like the emphasis isn't there because DS is bigger for Slider -> Hitcircle. What you could do is put sth like 0.5x 1/2 sliders there to emphasize it more
22:04 DTM9 Nowa: Like 1/2 sliders on these 01:05:412 (2,2) - ?
22:04 _DT3: Yes
22:04 _DT3: But with less SV
22:06 DTM9 Nowa: You probably can open the thing i still don't get. How would the slider be justified as a 1/2. There isn't really anything here 01:05:570 - that the slider would necessarly follow (Even though it would be rankable i still prefer to have them mapped on atleast something)
22:06 DTM9 Nowa: 3/4 sliders following the vocals could work
22:07 DTM9 Nowa: But people have suggested over and over again to add something there. I have always said that if they can justify the suggestion i will surely add something there
22:08 _DT3: Well, what I hear on the red ticks is the vocal stopping and a sound fading in
22:08 _DT3: A 3/4 slider would work just as well but Just so that you can fill something in there
22:09 DTM9 Nowa: I'll try that then
22:11 _DT3: 01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Since the 'rotation' here isn't too noticable, what about rotating these a bit more? I feel like the previous jumps had a more noticable rotation So I feel like these should be rotated stronger
22:11 _DT3: If they were meant to be rotated at all
22:13 DTM9 Nowa: The last notes have higher DS changes between the jumps which creates the way they look rn. I may rotate them by a degree or few if the pattern doesn't change too much
22:13 _DT3: Ok
22:14 DTM9 Nowa: They are also placed differently
22:14 _DT3: Yeah
22:14 _DT3: 01:13:939 (1) - Maybe increase volume here since the song gets a bit more intense
22:15 DTM9 Nowa: Should i increase here 01:15:202 - aswell?
22:15 _DT3: Would be good to, yes
22:16 DTM9 Nowa: Alrighty
22:18 _DT3: 01:16:149 (5,1) - Might have been suggested already but the stack feels off with the song since it suggests movement rather than astop
22:18 _DT3: *a stop
22:21 DTM9 Nowa: 01:16:149 - This "stops" the song for a second which is continued by a much stronger beat ( 01:16:307 - ). For me it just feels like it works :/
22:21 DTM9 Nowa: Dunno wat to do
22:22 _DT3: I mean, I don't think it's too bad with 01:16:307 (1) - being ctrl + g but idk
22:24 DTM9 Nowa: I can try that but i have to pretty much overhaul the rest of the kiai
22:25 DTM9 Nowa: Actually fuk it
22:25 _DT3: I think the rest is fine
22:25 DTM9 Nowa: I'll just overhaul that part
22:26 _DT3: 01:15:675 (3,2) - I mean, not too necessary but I think hitcircles could work just as good here
22:27 DTM9 Nowa: 01:15:675 - This has a sort of hold sound and that other on is a hitcircle already .-.
22:28 _DT3: Then maybe you could make the tail clickable since I don't feel comfortable with the snare being on the same slider as that sound
22:29 _DT3: especially if it's on the tail
22:30 _DT3: But honestly other than that everything looks really good and thought through
22:31 DTM9 Nowa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6720837 ?
22:31 DTM9 Nowa: 3|4 is the thingy
22:31 _DT3: Sth like that, yeah
22:37 _DT3: That's it then

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-12-03T22:54:16+00:00

_DT3 wrote:

No kds since I already modded before, did an IRC with Nowa
There was a part 1 to this from yesterday but don't have the logs there

IRC with Nowa

21:44 _DT3: Should we maybe continue the irc?
21:53 DTM9 Nowa: Okey
21:54 DTM9 Nowa: btw ya running for BN this time aswell?
21:54 _DT3: Yep
21:54 DTM9 Nowa: gl :3
21:54 _DT3: Thx, you too ^^
21:55 _DT3: When is the test anyway?
21:55 DTM9 Nowa: This month, dunno exactly
21:55 _DT3: Ah ok
21:55 DTM9 Nowa: Help me rank my map if you get qualified xd
21:55 _DT3: xd
21:55 _DT3: Actually, I would
21:55 _DT3: You deserve that
21:56 _DT3: 00:56:096 (1) - Here, even if it seems minor, I would increase volume to 65% since it stands out from the other jumps
21:57 DTM9 Nowa: 5% never hurts. Unless it's alcohol
21:57 DTM9 Nowa: Fixed
21:58 _DT3: 00:58:465 (5,6,1) - I think it's a bit weird how this has the "sharper" angle than 01:00:991 (5,6,1) - since 01:00:991 (5,6,1) - is stronger and should need more emphasis with a sharper angle
22:00 DTM9 Nowa: Quite hard to do anything for that if i want to keep the current patterning but i'll see what i can do
22:02 DTM9 Nowa: I think i got it to work
22:02 DTM9 Nowa: xd
22:02 _DT3: xd
22:02 _DT3: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1) - Even if the distance between the hitcircle -> Slider is bigger than Slider -> Hitcircle, I feel like the emphasis isn't there because DS is bigger for Slider -> Hitcircle. What you could do is put sth like 0.5x 1/2 sliders there to emphasize it more
22:04 DTM9 Nowa: Like 1/2 sliders on these 01:05:412 (2,2) - ?
22:04 _DT3: Yes
22:04 _DT3: But with less SV
22:06 DTM9 Nowa: You probably can open the thing i still don't get. How would the slider be justified as a 1/2. There isn't really anything here 01:05:570 - that the slider would necessarly follow (Even though it would be rankable i still prefer to have them mapped on atleast something)
22:06 DTM9 Nowa: 3/4 sliders following the vocals could work
22:07 DTM9 Nowa: But people have suggested over and over again to add something there. I have always said that if they can justify the suggestion i will surely add something there
22:08 _DT3: Well, what I hear on the red ticks is the vocal stopping and a sound fading in
22:08 _DT3: A 3/4 slider would work just as well but Just so that you can fill something in there
22:09 DTM9 Nowa: I'll try that then
22:11 _DT3: 01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Since the 'rotation' here isn't too noticable, what about rotating these a bit more? I feel like the previous jumps had a more noticable rotation So I feel like these should be rotated stronger
22:11 _DT3: If they were meant to be rotated at all
22:13 DTM9 Nowa: The last notes have higher DS changes between the jumps which creates the way they look rn. I may rotate them by a degree or few if the pattern doesn't change too much
22:13 _DT3: Ok
22:14 DTM9 Nowa: They are also placed differently
22:14 _DT3: Yeah
22:14 _DT3: 01:13:939 (1) - Maybe increase volume here since the song gets a bit more intense
22:15 DTM9 Nowa: Should i increase here 01:15:202 - aswell?
22:15 _DT3: Would be good to, yes
22:16 DTM9 Nowa: Alrighty
22:18 _DT3: 01:16:149 (5,1) - Might have been suggested already but the stack feels off with the song since it suggests movement rather than astop
22:18 _DT3: *a stop
22:21 DTM9 Nowa: 01:16:149 - This "stops" the song for a second which is continued by a much stronger beat ( 01:16:307 - ). For me it just feels like it works :/
22:21 DTM9 Nowa: Dunno wat to do
22:22 _DT3: I mean, I don't think it's too bad with 01:16:307 (1) - being ctrl + g but idk
22:24 DTM9 Nowa: I can try that but i have to pretty much overhaul the rest of the kiai
22:25 DTM9 Nowa: Actually fuk it
22:25 _DT3: I think the rest is fine
22:25 DTM9 Nowa: I'll just overhaul that part
22:26 _DT3: 01:15:675 (3,2) - I mean, not too necessary but I think hitcircles could work just as good here
22:27 DTM9 Nowa: 01:15:675 - This has a sort of hold sound and that other on is a hitcircle already .-.
22:28 _DT3: Then maybe you could make the tail clickable since I don't feel comfortable with the snare being on the same slider as that sound
22:29 _DT3: especially if it's on the tail
22:30 _DT3: But honestly other than that everything looks really good and thought through
22:31 DTM9 Nowa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6720837 ?
22:31 DTM9 Nowa: 3|4 is the thingy
22:31 _DT3: Sth like that, yeah
22:37 _DT3: That's it then

First part of the mod

Insert random stuff before this
00:15 _DT3: Can I quickly IRC thin with you
00:15 *_DT3 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1101073 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Nowa's Flower]]
00:15 DTM9 Nowa: Sure
00:16 _DT3: It looks really nice though
00:16 DTM9 Nowa: Before you mention anything about it : 01:17:333 (4,1) - just look at the thread and you will find my reasoning for it
00:17 _DT3: 00:26:886 (4,1) - I don't feel like 00:27:202 (1) - gets emphasized enough with that circular flow
00:19 _DT3: Also 00:25:939 (1) - Sure you want to use an edgy slider in a rather calm part?
00:20 DTM9 Nowa: I don't know how much i want to priotirize the emphasis on the 00:27:202 (1) - . It kinda follows snapped flow but the circular sliders are there for the looks. I may fix that later on if i feel like so
00:20 DTM9 Nowa: and i like edgy sliders xd
00:20 _DT3: xd
00:22 _DT3: 00:43:939 (2) - Idk if this was suggested before but why not add a slider here? Maybe the effect was to make it look empty but I don't feel like that fits here, the part gets a bit more intense
00:22 DTM9 Nowa: Sure i can add a slider there. I don't think anyone has suggested it (until now)
00:23 _DT3: 00:43:781 (1) - I mean, this combo was intentional but it doesn't really make sense since you don't need to emphasize the kicks with NCs there (I think). the Nc here 00:43:465 (1) - does make sense though since it is stronger
00:24 _DT3: Same here with the piano I guess 00:46:307 (1) -
00:25 _DT3: 00:47:412 (1,2) - Not that important but maybe make it similar like 00:34:781 (1,2) - or make 00:34:781 (1,2) - like the 1st one because you have those kind of stacks mostly for 1/2s
00:27 _DT3: And then again 00:49:939 (1,2) - if you decide to fix it
00:27 DTM9 Nowa: With the new slider i can remove the NCs from them. Tweaked this 00:47:412 (1) - like you suggested
00:27 _DT3: Ok
00:27 DTM9 Nowa: We are starting a league of assholes match so could we continue in like 30 mins or so
00:28 _DT3: I'll see if I'll have time then but most likely
00:28 DTM9 Nowa: Oke

Thanks alot anyway ^^

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Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:Nowa's Flower
Source:Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～
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Antalf

Beatmap Nominator

269 posts

Joined August 2016

Antalf 2016-12-07T00:29:07+00:00

Heyooo! Quick mod from the queue, hope it helps!! Awesome mapping!almost hitting ranked!

Re:Candy

Yoshimaro's Easy Candy

00:16:465 (4,5) - Consider changing this two into an small slider instead of those single ones.

00:39:833 (1) - Instead of a repeat slider, might want to make a long one and mess with the shape a bit.

01:07:307 - Might want to add a circle here instead of leaving this empty.

01:27:517 - Try adding a circle here, it sounds really fit for it.

In general try spreading slider tick sounds through out the map, so some sliders dont sound that empty.

619's Normal Candy

00:07:939 (2) - Instead of this short slider here, try adding a single circle instead.

00:38:412 (3,5) - Might want to check this ones since i do not see any sound justification

01:31:939 (2,3) - Try switching places with this two notes here. (Move the slider where the circle was and the circle where the slider end was.) Honest opinion it gives it a nice touch since its the end of the song.

Rather than that i see the dff very well done!

Hard to Chew Candy

I know this isnt a big change but why not set that HP to 5.5 as well? The OD is 5.5 so it wouldnt be a bad idea to set the hp like that as well.

00:07:939 (3) - Try adding instead of this slider two single circles, this will assure some variety there add the start and doesnt feel bad at all to play.

00:20:728 - Consider adding a triplet here.

00:42:360 (1) - Try curving this a bit up. Looks a bit more nicer and gives a nice feel to it.

Well thats all i have to give, sorry for the rather short mod, have little time on me. Drop me some kudos (or not) if this was slightly helpful! Hope to see this ranked!!

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-12-07T07:43:33+00:00

Antalf wrote:
Yoshimaro's Easy Candy

00:16:465 (4,5) - Consider changing this two into an small slider instead of those single ones. i like the functionality it has rn

00:39:833 (1) - Instead of a repeat slider, might want to make a long one and mess with the shape a bit. if i made it a longer slider then it would lose this beat here 00:40:939 -

01:07:307 - Might want to add a circle here instead of leaving this empty. i'd prefer to keep the rhythm simple in this section, since it already plays 2/1

01:27:517 - Try adding a circle here, it sounds really fit for it. i just applied meeps final thoughts and it has a note there

In general try spreading slider tick sounds through out the map, so some sliders dont sound that empty. im missing the point :c

thank you!

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-12-07T09:35:17+00:00

Antalf wrote:
Heyooo! Quick mod from the queue, hope it helps!! Awesome mapping!almost hitting ranked!

Hard to Chew Candy

I know this isnt a big change but why not set that HP to 5.5 as well? The OD is 5.5 so it wouldnt be a bad idea to set the hp like that as well. oki c;

00:07:939 (3) - Try adding instead of this slider two single circles, this will assure some variety there add the start and doesnt feel bad at all to play. I'll keep the slider to continue the pattern I made before that part

00:20:728 - Consider adding a triplet here. Was mapping to the heavy piano sounds,I know there is a beat but Im not going to map it.

00:42:360 (1) - Try curving this a bit up. Looks a bit more nicer and gives a nice feel to it. I tried,see if ya like it
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Well thats all i have to give, sorry for the rather short mod, have little time on me. Drop me some kudos (or not) if this was slightly helpful! Hope to see this ranked!!

Thanks for modding ;3

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-12-07T14:03:13+00:00

Antalf wrote:
619's Normal Candy

00:07:939 (2) - Instead of this short slider here, try adding a single circle instead. - Ok

00:38:412 (3,5) - Might want to check this ones since i do not see any sound justification - I followed vocal

01:31:939 (2,3) - Try switching places with this two notes here. (Move the slider where the circle was and the circle where the slider end was.) Honest opinion it gives it a nice touch since its the end of the song. - Ok maybe

Rather than that i see the dff very well done!
-^^

Thanks for mod!

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Xinying

560 posts

Joined July 2013

Xinying 2016-12-09T06:46:42+00:00

Mod from my M4M

General

If there is anything wrong with the images I've sent or any suggestions which are unclear, please forum PM me to clarify. Avoid replying to my mod because I may not come back to your map.
For difficulties that map this sound 00:21:360 , I'm pretty sure it is snapped to 1/4 and rebound only once.

Yoshimaro's Easy

01:24:044 (2) - This rebound is out of place. Previously you've been repeating sliders to follow vocal, but now it feels like the head and tail follows vocal but the rebound follows the instrument. In easy it is best to follow the most distinct sound in the music. Sliders you have follow rebound vocals some examples are 00:33:517 (3) and 00:36:044 (3) . Some others follow very clear and distinct instrument sounds like 00:01:939 (1) and 00:10:781 (2) . I recommend change rhythm to (1) if you want to follow vocals all the way or (2) if you want to follow the soft instrument in the background.

Hard

00:24:991 (2) - Small suggestion but how about this? Feels like it flows better.

Insane

01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't hear any drum sound to support this stream? Overmapped perhaps?
01:14:886 (2,3,4,5) - Same here

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-12-09T22:08:40+00:00

Xinying wrote:
If there is anything wrong with the images I've sent or any suggestions which are unclear, please forum PM me to clarify. Avoid replying to my mod because I may not come back to your map. yeah fuck rechecking tbh xd

Yoshimaro's Easy
01:24:044 (2) - This rebound is out of place. Previously you've been repeating sliders to follow vocal, but now it feels like the head and tail follows vocal but the rebound follows the instrument. In easy it is best to follow the most distinct sound in the music. Sliders you have follow rebound vocals some examples are 00:33:517 (3) and 00:36:044 (3) . Some others follow very clear and distinct instrument sounds like 00:01:939 (1) and 00:10:781 (2) . I recommend change rhythm to (1) if you want to follow vocals all the way or (2) if you want to follow the soft instrument in the background. did #2

thank for mod!

mom hitsounds again i think

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57044
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:Yoshimaro's Easy
Source:Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~
BeatmapID:1104940
BeatmapSetID:518004

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:4.5
SliderMultiplier:0.7
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Korey

141 posts

Joined August 2013

Korey 2016-12-13T06:18:49+00:00

from modreqs hope it helps!

Insane

00:06:991 (1,3) - 00:08:254 (1,2) - the connected curve thingo you were doing is stuffed up here
00:18:675 - circle would fit better here rhythmically and to put pressure on 00:18:833 -
00:19:307 - 1/2slider
00:20:254 (5) - blanket looks weird with two notes next to it a straight slider would do better imo
00:24:044 (3,4) - rotate 90degrees or something? 00:23:412 (1,2,3,4) - all of this is visually boring
00:24:675 (1) - use different spacing here to emphasis it
00:27:518 (2,3,4) - blankets obviously need some work lol please double check/fix all of them i think most of the others are okay though
00:40:939 (3) - 1/1 slider is better imo because if you have circles starting on 00:41:412 (1) - it would have be differentiated because right now 00:41:254 (4) - is a part of the jump pattern.
00:50:254 (2,4) - the sliders are noticable in gameplay and looks bad imo
01:30:360 (1) - doesnt look visually appealing in my eyes and feels like youve focused on making the sliders skeleton looks cool instead.

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-12-13T16:14:49+00:00

Xinying wrote:
Mod from my M4M

General
If there is anything wrong with the images I've sent or any suggestions which are unclear, please forum PM me to clarify. Avoid replying to my mod because I may not come back to your map.
For difficulties that map this sound 00:21:360 , I'm pretty sure it is snapped to 1/4 and rebound only once.
otice]
Hard
00:24:991 (2) - Small suggestion but how about this? Feels like it flows better.
will consider[/notice]

Insane
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't hear any drum sound to support this stream? Overmapped perhaps? Bass emphasis
01:14:886 (2,3,4,5) - Same here
^

ikorza wrote:
from modreqs hope it helps!

Insane

00:06:991 (1,3) - 00:08:254 (1,2) - the connected curve thingo you were doing is stuffed up here on purpose
00:18:675 - circle would fit better here rhythmically and to put pressure on 00:18:833 - Nah
00:19:307 - 1/2slider will consider
00:20:254 (5) - blanket looks weird with two notes next to it a straight slider would do better imo oki ;w;
00:24:044 (3,4) - rotate 90degrees or something? 00:23:412 (1,2,3,4) - all of this is visually boring was to play the stale 'tet' or whatever sound it is there,making that part boring may fit it more
00:24:675 (1) - use different spacing here to emphasis it I stacked all the notes that have a 1/1 gap like 00:27:202 (1,2) - 00:32:254 (5,1) -
00:27:518 (2,3,4) - blankets obviously need some work lol please double check/fix all of them i think most of the others are okay though
00:40:939 (3) - 1/1 slider is better imo because if you have circles starting on 00:41:412 (1) - it would have be differentiated because right now 00:41:254 (4) - is a part of the jump pattern. Though 00:41:254 - has a piano note,which makes a 1/1 feel awkward as its sliderend plays the first note while the next few are notes
00:50:254 (2,4) - the sliders are noticable in gameplay and looks bad imo Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - doesnt look visually appealing in my eyes and feels like youve focused on making the sliders skeleton looks cool instead. I don't exactly know what you mean, I made a flower since there have been many petals in the video,idk,lul

thx 4 mod <3

Shurelia

Global Moderator

2,816 posts

Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2016-12-14T15:48:18+00:00

m4m m4m m4m (I'm very tired while modding this so please bear with broken like english)

[GeneraL]

I really recommend the diff's name like this instead : Yoshimaro's EasY , 619's NormaL , HarD , InsanE ,Nowa's FloweR . Since basically every words in that game were typed like that. (Highly recommended)

[EasY]

00:17:096 (1) - looks a bit too derped for me. Probably make something that the slider's head and the tail won't touch each other would be better.
00:30:991 (3,3) - this overlay is kinda uuh.. pretty bad for an easy. I'd suggest to do something with (3) so it won't overlaying each other.
01:01:939 (5,1) - probably this one too. You can just rotate (1) a bit so it'll be a straight movement.
01:06:360 (2) - naaah, for me. This one is too sharp. You might to to a rework on this object.
01:19:307 (2) - this slider looks out of place for me. I mean the other one have smooth curve while this one is sharp. I suggest to just make it same.
01:24:043 (2) - Unsnapped stuff
01:29:727 (3) - unsnapped

[NormaL]

00:21:517 (2) - you usually use stack to cover 1/2 rhythm but this one cover 1/1 instead so uuh.. I suggest to move this elsewhere. x:500 y:85 would be a good example

[HarD]

00:18:360 (2) - NC should be at here.
00:15:044 (3) - NC is kinda unecessary at here since you already show the rhythm difference from the distance.
00:42:833 (2,3,4) - I think 3>4 should have bigger DS instead of 2>3 since the loud piano sound can be heard at (4) and will do great with the emphasize thingy.
00:55:306 (2,3,4,5,6) - This shows that you really out of space about where to put (3) is. I suggest to make 4,5 as a stack too to save space a lot for you. Since the current one kinda not making any sense for me a plays really awkward.

[InsanE]

00:18:281 (2) - naah, this one barely cover anything and really weird to be listened. I suggest to remove this one.
00:28:781 (5,6) - Try to move this to x:376 y:143 so the tails can get stacked with 00:29:728 (1) - ?
00:28:307 (4,7) - uwaaaaah.
00:56:096 (1) - 👌
01:02:886 (2,3,4) - why there's a sudden triple at here ? Since you didn't use it at anywhere else on kiai. Should remove (3)
01:25:781 (2) - distance issue. Try x:471 y:268 for a perfect one
01:27:517 (5,1) - I prefer a quite a jump at here. Maybe... uuh... x:147 y:240?

[FloweR]

00:09:991 (2,1) - looks same yet different play. You can move (2) to fix this.
01:05:570 - try to add an object at here! Since the current one is kinda a letdown if you leave this empty. Also if you agree try to stack it with the previous object. It'll play great
01:06:202 - same stuff like above.

Good luck

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-12-14T17:34:37+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
[NormaL]
00:21:517 (2) - you usually use stack to cover 1/2 rhythm but this one cover 1/1 instead so uuh.. I suggest to move this elsewhere. x:500 y:85 would be a good example - ok

Thanks for mod!

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Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-12-14T17:49:32+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
[GeneraL]
I really recommend the diff's name like this instead : Yoshimaro's EasY , 619's NormaL , HarD , InsanE ,Nowa's FloweR . Since basically every words in that game were typed like that. (Highly recommended) sure thats up to meep tho

[EasY]
00:17:096 (1) - looks a bit too derped for me. Probably make something that the slider's head and the tail won't touch each other would be better. sure, its movement is clear as it is tho
00:30:991 (3,3) - this overlay is kinda uuh.. pretty bad for an easy. I'd suggest to do something with (3) so it won't overlaying each other. not so bad honestly, earlier suggestions involved me compromising its placement but now that i look at it in play time its like 150 ms so idk
01:01:939 (5,1) - probably this one too. You can just rotate (1) a bit so it'll be a straight movement. that one is fine tho
01:06:360 (2) - naaah, for me. This one is too sharp. You might to to a rework on this object. both this and the previous 00:17:096 (1) - have clear direction idk whats wrong with these
01:19:307 (2) - this slider looks out of place for me. I mean the other one have smooth curve while this one is sharp. I suggest to just make it same. i've already softened the sharp with smooth (?)
01:24:043 (2) - Unsnapped stuff idk how that happened
01:29:727 (3) - unsnapped ^

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330,267,35412,2,0,P|361:280|396:280,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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243,78,48991,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,23,49307,2,0,P|154:56|154:99,1,70,10|2,0:1|3:1,0:0:0:0:
207,162,49939,1,4,0:0:0:0:
84,296,50570,6,0,B|119:300|147:323|147:323|172:300|210:296,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,309,51517,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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235,250,53412,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,157,54675,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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162,105,58149,1,0,0:1:0:0:
182,195,58465,1,8,0:1:0:0:
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73,124,60044,6,0,P|85:159|81:201,1,70,2|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
33,267,60675,1,0,0:1:0:0:
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257,335,61939,2,0,P|294:339|332:335,1,70,2|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
373,258,62570,6,0,P|395:300|446:213,1,210,0|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
377,160,63833,2,0,P|335:167|301:190,1,70,0|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
276,265,64465,2,0,P|283:312|301:345,1,70,2|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
371,377,65096,6,0,P|299:362|226:374,1,140,6|6,3:1|3:1,0:0:0:0:
384,268,66360,2,0,P|361:214|329:263,1,140,6|10,3:1|3:1,0:0:0:0:
509,265,67623,6,0,P|510:228|495:182,1,70,6|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
428,142,68254,1,2,0:1:0:0:
512,106,68570,1,8,0:1:0:0:
439,52,68886,2,0,P|395:56|359:86,1,70,6|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
336,151,69517,2,0,P|347:185|368:212,1,70,2|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
459,224,70149,5,6,0:1:0:0:
404,296,70465,2,0,P|404:337|412:371,2,70,8|2|8,0:1|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
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443,316,77412,1,8,0:1:0:0:
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256,192,93044,12,6,95412,0:1:0:0:

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-12-15T10:02:32+00:00

I'll be changing the names of everybody's diffs and edit this to my reply to shurelia's mod later on

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-12-15T12:41:24+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
[FloweR]
00:09:991 (2,1) - looks same yet different play. You can move (2) to fix this. Uhh in what aspect do they look similiar? One of them is a hitcircle and one of them is a bezier slider
01:05:570 - try to add an object at here! Since the current one is kinda a letdown if you leave this empty. Also if you agree try to stack it with the previous object. It'll play great There is a 3/4 slider already?? Plus there isn't anything worthy in the song to be clickable on that point so it would just be straight up overmapped
01:06:202 - same stuff like above. ^

Good luck

No changes atleast for now. Thanks for the input anyway :>

Edit : Why my diff is not updated?

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-12-15T17:46:18+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
m4m m4m m4m (I'm very tired while modding this so please bear with broken like english)

[GeneraL]
I really recommend the diff's name like this instead : Yoshimaro's EasY , 619's NormaL , HarD , InsanE ,Nowa's FloweR . Since basically every words in that game were typed like that. (Highly recommended)

[HarD]
00:18:360 (2) - NC should be at here. It was nc'd like how the insane was nc'd
00:15:044 (3) - NC is kinda unecessary at here since you already show the rhythm difference from the distance. Fixed
00:42:833 (2,3,4) - I think 3>4 should have bigger DS instead of 2>3 since the loud piano sound can be heard at (4) and will do great with the emphasize thingy. May consider
00:55:306 (2,3,4,5,6) - This shows that you really out of space about where to put (3) is. I suggest to make 4,5 as a stack too to save space a lot for you. Since the current one kinda not making any sense for me a plays really awkward. apparently im stupid enough to not notice i could have done that for a whole 2 months,thanks bud <3

[InsanE]
00:18:281 (2) - naah, this one barely cover anything and really weird to be listened. I suggest to remove this one. ima keep xd
00:28:781 (5,6) - Try to move this to x:376 y:143 so the tails can get stacked with 00:29:728 (1) - ? Fixed
00:28:307 (4,7) - uwaaaaah. Fixed
00:56:096 (1) - 👌 <3
01:02:886 (2,3,4) - why there's a sudden triple at here ? Since you didn't use it at anywhere else on kiai. Should remove (3) Kinda copied what nowa did on his diff
01:25:781 (2) - distance issue. Try x:471 y:268 for a perfect one Fixed
01:27:517 (5,1) - I prefer a quite a jump at here. Maybe... uuh... x:147 y:240? Nah,i wanted to make the part feel slow and nice

Good luck

Thanks for moddin~

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Shurelia wrote:
[FloweR]
00:09:991 (2,1) - looks same yet different play. You can move (2) to fix this. Uhh in what aspect do they look similiar? One of them is a hitcircle and one of them is a bezier slider
01:05:570 - try to add an object at here! Since the current one is kinda a letdown if you leave this empty. Also if you agree try to stack it with the previous object. It'll play great There is a 3/4 slider already?? Plus there isn't anything worthy in the song to be clickable on that point so it would just be straight up overmapped
01:06:202 - same stuff like above. ^

Good luck
No changes atleast for now. Thanks for the input anyway :>

Edit : Why my diff is not updated?

weird idk,gona update it

BounceBabe

1,626 posts

Joined October 2010

BounceBabe 2016-12-16T22:17:19+00:00

🕓⌛ TWENTY MINUTES ⌛🕓

easy

00:04:465 (1,2) - transition between these and aesthetics could be improved slightly. rounder shape for 00:04:465 (1) - would suit more with the curve of 00:06:202 (2) -

00:06:991 (1) - flow is slightly off. move more to the right to make it better

00:09:517 (1,2) - these two could be made symmetrical in the way the are arranged. place 00:09:517 (1) - a bit higher http://puu.sh/sRTaw/758ea900f7.jpg

00:14:570 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm change from white to red ticks is rather hard for beginners. try to simplify like this http://puu.sh/sRTc5/d4fd0f39b6.jpg

00:27:517 (1,2,1) - rhythm is a bit off here. even more since 00:28:465 - is the start of the next bar. try http://puu.sh/sRTj8/753a0979f7.jpg

00:54:991 (1) - the tightly squeezed body can be a misleading slidershape for beginners. try finding something more suiting for easy. better : http://puu.sh/sRToB/0e15c12088.jpg

00:57:517 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - due to the high bpm rhythm might be a bit too hard for new players as the rest of the map varies a lot between 2/1 and 1/1 but this is entirely 1/1. consider making 00:58:781 (4,5) - a long slider and 01:01:307 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/sRTvi/c85a973918.jpg 01:07:623 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same here

01:05:096 (1,2) - will be extremely hard to handle for new players and also is not so good flow. better: http://puu.sh/sRTxG/939cafb702.jpg you could also just remove the second one and reverse 01:05:096 (1) - same 01:15:202 (1,2) - slider curve goes up but the next element is at the bottom. http://puu.sh/sRTCa/2295178a68.jpg

01:30:360 (1) - slightly make the end of the slider show more. new players wont be able to see immediately into which direction the slider goes and need 100% security. http://puu.sh/sRTKT/d561859110.jpg is a lot better. pretty slider btw

insane

00:15:675 (5,1) - spacing needs to be larger to fit with since youve got this jump here 00:15:044 (3,4) - . 00:15:675 (5,1) - can be easily misread as 1/2.
^ same 00:19:307 (5,1) - maybe stacking 00:19:307 (5,1) - would help. it would fit the piano too http://puu.sh/sRTUy/b64447a8a6.jpg
^ 00:43:307 (3,4,1) - same. try stacking here too http://puu.sh/sRU4h/dc136a6ca1.jpg

00:41:412 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - would play better like this http://puu.sh/sRTX6/ca33f9aad7.jpg

00:52:465 (1) - the sv speed up doesnt quite match with the melody, you mapped to stream of piano notes here with only that slider but continued with vocals which makes the sv slider inappropriate. consider removing it and replace with instrumental mapping as it will suit better.

01:03:675 (1,2) - flow is too poor here due to the slider shape. try http://puu.sh/sRUbF/f7b297fa29.jpg

01:05:728 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:10:781 (1,1) - 01:13:307 (1,1) - really unnecessary combo spam, please remove this

01:17:096 (3,1) - you follow the stream of notes here. NC at 3 and remove NC at 01:17:411 (1) - since its mapped to instruments only

01:26:412 (4) - ctrl + G to fit the ascending vocal tone and to improve flow

01:27:517 - replace the slider with a circle. it will suit vocals more.

Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2016-12-17T03:43:18+00:00

[easy]
00:16:465 (4,5,1) - if u angle this up flow would be better// its alright atm tho
00:44:886 (1) - avoid this overlap, overlapped reverse symbols are unrankable
01:30:360 (1) - open the end more, which way the slider goes is pretty ambiguous

[hard]
00:03:202 (1) - 00:04:149 (3) - (etc) spacing, doesnt make sense for this to be overlapped
00:11:728 (3,1) - DS these 2 too
00:15:044 (3,4,5) - maybe 1/2 sliders would be nice? a bunch of circles spaced out is hard to read + kinda boring XD
00:20:254 (3,1,2) - sliders for piano?
00:43:307 (3) - jump too big
00:50:886 (4) - try this!

00:53:412 (4,1) - too many 1/2 sliders here too, try ^^ as well
01:00:044 (1) - spacing too close
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - probably not suitable for a hard
01:08:886 (1) - flow?
01:27:833 (2) - move up a tiny bit more XD

gave insane a quick peek it looks quite nice actually, good luck have fun~

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-12-18T06:37:01+00:00

[General]

Muting sliderticks and sliderslide at the same time is unrankable. i suggest to remove the muted slidertick
Add a normal-sliderslide. its kinda annoying specially during 00:42:360 -

[Yoshimaro's Easy]

00:27:517 (1,2) - i dont really get what youre mapping here. following vocals will be ideal cuz its more friendly with begginers. try this http://puu.sh/sThKn/7190d1c232.jpg
00:47:728 - a circle will be cool for vocals
00:48:044 (1,2) - ctrl+g this for a better rhythm. i dont get what youre mapping and this suggestions fits vocals
00:50:570 (1,2,3) - ^ the last two applies here too
00:54:991 (1) - its cool and stuff but isnt beginner friendly because of the slider overlapping itself
01:30:360 (1) - ^

[619's Normal]

00:18:044 (3) - the beat on its tail isnt really strong and using a circle will help to reduce the density of this section a bit

[Hard]

00:15:044 (3,4,5) - spacing
spacing on kiais is really high for my taste

[Insane]

00:21:360 (2) - 40% + soft whistles are better than "muting" it
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - nerf pls or at least 00:54:991 (1,2) -
00:56:096 (1) - normal hitfinish on tail is cool
01:06:991 (1) - why not circles

the other diff is kinda cool gj

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2016-12-19T09:15:12+00:00

Since you already have three mods that you didn't respond to yet, I'm rather gonna wait for your response before I begin modding otherwise I might repeat stuff that others have already mentioned. Just PM me or message me in-game once you're ready.

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-12-20T18:59:23+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
🕓⌛ TWENTY MINUTES ⌛🕓
insane

00:15:675 (5,1) - spacing needs to be larger to fit with since youve got this jump here 00:15:044 (3,4) - . 00:15:675 (5,1) - can be easily misread as 1/2.
^ same 00:19:307 (5,1) - maybe stacking 00:19:307 (5,1) - would help. it would fit the piano too http://puu.sh/sRTUy/b64447a8a6.jpg
^ 00:43:307 (3,4,1) - same. try stacking here too http://puu.sh/sRU4h/dc136a6ca1.jpg Fixed the first one,however the 2nd one I will not fix,as I don't think it would fit the piano in any way by stacking it.

00:41:412 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - would play better like this http://puu.sh/sRTX6/ca33f9aad7.jpg Wanted to emphasize piano notes,and the piano notes are also in different tones, therefore stacking them ontop of one another in a back and forth movement doesn't make sense unless they have the same sound,which in this case,it doesn't.

00:52:465 (1) - the sv speed up doesnt quite match with the melody, you mapped to stream of piano notes here with only that slider but continued with vocals which makes the sv slider inappropriate. consider removing it and replace with instrumental mapping as it will suit better. Instrumental mapping in this part makes it feel dull in this part,and the SV change is to represent the speedup/buildup that the song is having when reaching to the chorus.

01:03:675 (1,2) - flow is too poor here due to the slider shape. try http://puu.sh/sRUbF/f7b297fa29.jpg I moved it down more if that helps solve it,putting it too low may leave the last slider at some random place which wouldn't make sense

01:05:728 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 01:10:781 (1,1) - 01:13:307 (1,1) - really unnecessary combo spam, please remove this For the intensity of the music,I don't see how this is unnecessary combo spam.

01:17:096 (3,1) - you follow the stream of notes here. NC at 3 and remove NC at 01:17:411 (1) - since its mapped to instruments only Decided not to NC it at all,removed both on 01:13:411 and (3)

01:26:412 (4) - ctrl + G to fit the ascending vocal tone and to improve flow The ascending tone in the vocal isn't too noticeable,so I won't ctrl+G it.

01:27:517 - replace the slider with a circle. it will suit vocals more. I kind of like it as a slider,so I won't change it,suits to me imo

Gaia wrote:
[hard]
00:03:202 (1) - 00:04:149 (3) - (etc) spacing, doesnt make sense for this to be overlapped I do understand that,however I just felt that it fit the song XD I tried to make it more consistent though
00:11:728 (3,1) - DS these 2 too Fixed
00:15:044 (3,4,5) - maybe 1/2 sliders would be nice? a bunch of circles spaced out is hard to read + kinda boring XD Fixed xd
00:20:254 (3,1,2) - sliders for piano? Nah,I feel that notes emphasize the piano more
00:43:307 (3) - jump too big Fixed
00:50:886 (4) - try this! lets try that then
00:53:412 (4,1) - too many 1/2 sliders here too, try ^^ as well nah XD the 1/2 sliders play this part quite well imo,putting a 1/1 slider kills momentum
01:00:044 (1) - spacing too close It looks close,however doesn't affect the player in gameplay,as it is in the direct opposite direction of the flow of 00:59:728 (7) - ,making the spacing factor sort of 'not affect' this part
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - probably not suitable for a hard nah,its just that people dont see these around much.
01:08:886 (1) - flow? Not in a circular flow for this case
01:27:833 (2) - move up a tiny bit more XD I didn't notice it XD nice

gave insane a quick peek it looks quite nice actually, good luck have fun~

pkhg wrote:
[General]
Muting sliderticks and sliderslide at the same time is unrankable. i suggest to remove the muted slidertick
Add a normal-sliderslide. its kinda annoying specially during 00:42:360 -
[Hard]
00:15:044 (3,4,5) - spacing Fixed
spacing on kiais is really high for my taste yea but at the same time the kiai is pretty intense in contrast to majority of the song
[Insane]
00:21:360 (2) - 40% + soft whistles are better than "muting" it I don't exactly agree with this,though I'll ask the GDers
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - nerf pls or at least 00:54:991 (1,2) - karen said its fine like that XD I can't really find any other place for it either,so I'll leave it there until someone comes in with a better suggestion
00:56:096 (1) - normal hitfinish on tail is cool oo dayum i liek it
01:06:991 (1) - why not circles the three slider+note pattern is pretty draining for many players already,since you have to snap to the next slider from a distance,and adding jumps only make it unnecessarily harder.Even though there are drum sounds that could be mapped as notes, I still think that adding a slider will be easier.
the other diff is kinda cool gj

Thanks 4 all ur modz,updated

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-12-22T17:00:21+00:00

pkhg wrote:
[619's Normal]
00:18:044 (3) - the beat on its tail isnt really strong and using a circle will help to reduce the density of this section a bit - fixed

Thanks for mod!

k

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57044
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:619's NormaL
Source:Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~
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-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2016-12-22T18:47:34+00:00

Hi, NM from queue.

General:

You can remove one “opening” from the tags since it’s unnecessary to write it two times and you can also remove “Re:LieF” from the tags since it’s already in the source.
You may not silence both sliderticks and sliderslides. This is unrankable. So rather remove the slidertick soundfile and keep the sliderslide file.
The SV gap between Nowa’s diff and the insane bothered me a bit… but since you manually adjusted the SV during the diff it shouldn’t be too big of an issue. For future diffs rather make sure that the SV gap between diffs aren’t too big.
01:07:623 – to 01:12:675 – I don’t really understand why you didn’t add kiai time here. This is still part of the chorus and the music doesn’t get less intense, it actually keeps its intensity, so I highly suggest you add kiai here as well. The GD’ers as well except Yoshimaro.

Nowa's FloweR:

Uncheck widescreen support. No SB and also to be consistent with other diffs.
01:30:360 –There’s an unnecessary green line here.
00:02:412 (2) –You missed a whistle on the head of this slider.
00:06:360 (3) -^
00:20:096 (3,4) –I suggest increasing the distance here a bit since the beat on the head of (4) is quite strong so it would be a good idea to emphasize it more.
00:21:360 (2) –I doubt this has to be snapped to 1/8. I listened to this at 25% closely and it sounds better if snapped to ¼. I can’t hear any other additional sounds. If you look at the insane diff, you’ll notice that this same slider is snapped to 1/4 and I agree with this.
00:31:781 (2,3,4) –Whistles should still be placed here since there is a piano in the background.
00:41:728 (4,5) –I don’t really see a reason to make the spacing here bigger than the rest. The intensity of the music still remains the same, so rather make the spacings here similar: 00:41:412 (2,3,4,5) –
00:43:781 (3,4) –Why is the spacing here smaller than the spacing here: 00:43:465 (1,2,3) - ? There is still a strong beat on the head of 00:43:939 (4) – so the spacing should at least be similar to 00:43:465 (1,2,3) –
00:45:360 (3,4) –I think the spacing here can be a bit bigger to emphasize (4) more.
00:48:675 (1) –Hmm, unnecessary NC imo.
00:54:202 (3,4) –This current flow looks a bit uncomfortable. Perhaps try a placement like this instead:
Picture
01:02:254 (6) –A NC is needed here to emphasize the sudden SV change otherwise players will get thrown off.
01:07:465 –It’s not really completely quiet here so leaving a gap here is a bit weird and disrupts flow. Also 01:07:623 (1) – is not spaced out enough. Players might think they have to click it earlier then they actually have to.

Insane:

00:03:044 - 00:03:202 - 00:09:517 - 00:57:254 - 01:29:570 – These are all unnecessary green lines.
00:10:781 (1) –It would be nice if you can increase the distance of this slider a bit more to emphasize that strong beat on the head of the slider more.
00:15:833 –This is a very important beat that has to be mapped out imo. I don’t see a reason to leave this empty since the beat is so strong.
00:19:465 -^
00:25:939 (5) –To be consistent with 00:23:412 (1) – you have to add NC here as well.
00:31:307 (3) –Imo the NC should rather be placed here since the piano starts here, so remove NC here: 00:30:991 (1) – then add NC here: 00:31:307 (3) – and then remove NC here: 00:31:623 (1) –
00:32:254 (5) –Since this beat sounds so strong it would be nice to rather space it out and not stack it to emphasize it.
00:33:044 –Rather not avoid this vocal since it can be heard clearly. I suggest using a pattern like this instead:
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00:35:412 (3) -^
00:42:044 (3) –Perhaps add NC here as well to be consistent with the previous NC’s.
00:47:096 (3) -^
00:49:149 (7,1) –The distance between these two objects are quite small which is weird since the beat on (1) is quite strong and it’s also inconsistent with the previous part and the next part of the pattern.
00:49:623 (3,4) -^, the beat on (4) isn’t that strong but the spacing is still too small imo since the music’s intensity is strong.
00:57:202 (1) –This shouldn’t be snapped to 1/6. If you listen to this at 25% you’ll hear it has to be snapped to ¼ instead.
00:58:465 (3,4) –A bit more spacing here would be nice to emphasize that vocal on the head of (4) more.
01:15:675 (3) –The placement of this slider creates quite awkward flow from 01:15:517 (2) – Perhaps try something like this instead:
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There’s probably other better options but I guess anything else will be better then the current placement.

Hard:

01:35:333 – Unnecessary green line.
00:18:202 (1) –Remove NC here and rather add NC here: 00:18:360 (2) – The strong beat is on (2) so it would make more sense.
00:20:570 (1) –Unnecessary NC imo.
00:20:254 (3,1,2) –Consider making the spacing between these three notes similar. It looks a bit weird if it isn’t.
00:22:781 (2,3,4) -^
00:31:307 (1,2,3,4) –The spacing here should be similar as well since the beat of the music remains the same here.
00:31:939 (4) –Maybe change the slider’s shape to something like this instead:
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It’ll support 00:31:465 (2) – so also for consistency.
00:32:570 (2) –Move the tail of this slider upwards a bit so it follows the flow from 00:32:254 (1) – Will play more comfortably.
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00:40:939 (3,4,5,6) –It’s a bit weird for me that these notes are spaced out more than 00:31:307 (1,2,3,4) – but both of them share the same beat. Try to stay consistent.
00:42:202 –Quite an important beat. It’s weird not to map it out cause it sounds like it should.
00:48:360 (1) –Remove the NC here. It’s inconsistent with the rest of the NC’ing patterns.
00:57:202 (1) –The NC here isn’t really necessary since there’s no SV change. Rather remove the NC here.
00:57:202 (1,1) –This spacing looks quite big for a Hard diff… I suggest nerfing it just a bit.
01:06:991 (1) –Unnecessary NC

619's NormaL:

Uncheck widescreen support.
HP drain rate is too low for a Normal imo. 3 is normally used for Easy. Raise it to 4.
00:01:939 –An inherited timing point (green line) may not be placed on an uninherited timing point (red line) except if it’s to change the slider velocity, but in this case you didn’t change the SV so the green line must be removed.
01:29:728 – Unnecessary green line.
00:01:939 (1) –You missed a whistle on the tail of this slider.
00:06:991 (1) -^, the tail
00:07:939 (2) -^, there may be more but I’m not gonna point them out. Just go through the intro of the diff again and make sure you hitsounded all the piano sounds with whistles. You may have missed more in the rest of the diff as well, so it will probably be best to go through the whole diff and make sure all the pianos are hitsounded.
00:19:307 –It would be nice if you made this important beat clickable, but I’m also not so sure since it can be a problem if the pattern gets too long… Up to you.
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Yoshimaro's EasY:

Uncheck widescreen support.
Please lower the AR. 4,5 is too big for an Easy. Highly consider lowering it to 3. Also, it’s not a good idea to have the OD be the same as the OD of Normal. 3 would fit nicely for an Easy.
00:01:939 –A green line shouldn’t be placed on a red line except to change the SV. Since you didn’t change the SV here, you have to remove the green line.
00:06:991 (1,3) –This stack may cause confusion for beginners since the (3) is hidden by the tail of (1) so it can be visually challenging. Consider doing this instead:
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00:12:675 (2,3) –This slight overlap just doesn’t look good. Rather avoid it.
00:27:517 (1) –Move this slider to the left to about: X:408 Y:172 since the overlap with 00:25:307 (2) – don’t look that good and can be improved.
00:30:991 (3,3) –Hmm, this overlap is making me cringe. Rather place 00:33:517 (3) – somewhere else. It’ll look neater. Perhaps something like this:
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00:54:991 (1) –Be careful not to let a slider’s body overlap itself cause it can create visualization problems since it’s difficult to see the slider’s path then.
01:30:360 (1) -^, it’s very difficult to see the path that this slider is following since the body is very mushed up together.

I have some concerns about this Easy diff. Firstly, the distance spacing can be increased a bit cause right now the objects are placed quite near each other and that can make beginners confused if the objects are too close. Secondly, you have a lot of overlaps where one slider/circle overlaps another. This can confuse beginners as well since they can’t really see the slider’s body that well since it’s being hidden. This one bothered me the most: 01:05:096 (1) – Try to decrease the stacks as well. The last suggestion is mostly just to be safe. Stacking isn’t always supported in an Easy diff.

Overall this set is good. Not really anything major I suppose. I personally don’t think it’s quite ready for rank yet though. More mods would be a good idea.

If you have any questions regarding my mod, feel free to poke me in-game. Good Luck~!

Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-12-22T21:16:02+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hi, NM from queue

Nowa's FloweR:
Uncheck widescreen support. No SB and also to be consistent with other diffs. ✓
01:30:360 –There’s an unnecessary green line here. Welp forgot to remove that when i added some other inherited points
00:02:412 (2) –You missed a whistle on the head of this slider. ✓
00:06:360 (3) -^ ✓
00:20:096 (3,4) –I suggest increasing the distance here a bit since the beat on the head of (4) is quite strong so it would be a good idea to emphasize it more. ✓
00:21:360 (2) –I doubt this has to be snapped to 1/8. I listened to this at 25% closely and it sounds better if snapped to ¼. I can’t hear any other additional sounds. If you look at the insane diff, you’ll notice that this same slider is snapped to 1/4 and I agree with this. I've been called out for this before. As the slider's reverse points are not active notes they are not obligated to be mapped on specific notes. I personally think the 1/8 buzz works better there than a 1/4 when listened on full speed (or 75%) also there isn't an option to play on 25% speed unless you are timewarping
00:31:781 (2,3,4) –Whistles should still be placed here since there is a piano in the background. I put a whistle to the 3 because i liked the Whistle|No whistle|Whistle|No Whistle as it doesn't feel filled with whistles
00:41:728 (4,5) –I don’t really see a reason to make the spacing here bigger than the rest. The intensity of the music still remains the same, so rather make the spacings here similar: 00:41:412 (2,3,4,5) –It has extra drum hits and so on but it's still quite excessive so i'll move it little bit closer but i do keep the spacing increase
00:43:781 (3,4) –Why is the spacing here smaller than the spacing here: 00:43:465 (1,2,3) - ? There is still a strong beat on the head of 00:43:939 (4) – so the spacing should at least be similar to 00:43:465 (1,2,3) – ✓
00:45:360 (3,4) –I think the spacing here can be a bit bigger to emphasize (4) more. Shuffled around with the objects a bit and it should be better
00:48:675 (1) –Hmm, unnecessary NC imo. ✓
00:54:202 (3,4) –This current flow looks a bit uncomfortable. Perhaps try a placement like this instead:
Picture
It think plays just fine
01:02:254 (6) –A NC is needed here to emphasize the sudden SV change otherwise players will get thrown off. It's not a major change and it would not throw anyone off as the slider leniency keeps them on the track so the current way should not be an issue. Though i usually NC stuff like that and most likely i just forgot to NC that one
01:07:465 –It’s not really completely quiet here so leaving a gap here is a bit weird and disrupts flow. Also 01:07:623 (1) – is not spaced out enough. Players might think they have to click it earlier then they actually have to. Fixed it to be like other similiar gaps for example here 00:34:781 (1,2) -

Thanks for modding~

Upd

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_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2016-12-27T14:48:34+00:00

I will apply the mods once Im back from taiwan at new years

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-01-08T08:43:18+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hi, NM from queue.

General:
You can remove one “opening” from the tags since it’s unnecessary to write it two times and you can also remove “Re:LieF” from the tags since it’s already in the source.
You may not silence both sliderticks and sliderslides. This is unrankable. So rather remove the slidertick soundfile and keep the sliderslide file.
The SV gap between Nowa’s diff and the insane bothered me a bit… but since you manually adjusted the SV during the diff it shouldn’t be too big of an issue. For future diffs rather make sure that the SV gap between diffs aren’t too big.
01:07:623 – to 01:12:675 – I don’t really understand why you didn’t add kiai time here. This is still part of the chorus and the music doesn’t get less intense, it actually keeps its intensity, so I highly suggest you add kiai here as well. The GD’ers as well except Yoshimaro.

Insane:
00:03:044 - 00:03:202 - 00:09:517 - 00:57:254 - 01:29:570 – These are all unnecessary green lines. Fixed
00:10:781 (1) –It would be nice if you can increase the distance of this slider a bit more to emphasize that strong beat on the head of the slider more. Fixed
00:15:833 –This is a very important beat that has to be mapped out imo. I don’t see a reason to leave this empty since the beat is so strong. Mapping to the piano and that violin thingy for this part,so I dont see a need to map those parts,same for the arrowhead below u placed as well.
00:19:465 -^
00:25:939 (5) –To be consistent with 00:23:412 (1) – you have to add NC here as well. Fixed
00:31:307 (3) –Imo the NC should rather be placed here since the piano starts here, so remove NC here: 00:30:991 (1) – then add NC here: 00:31:307 (3) – and then remove NC here: 00:31:623 (1) – Fixed
00:32:254 (5) –Since this beat sounds so strong it would be nice to rather space it out and not stack it to emphasize it. I wanted the jump pattern to start out with 2 stacking notes,and ending the same way as well. So no change.
00:33:044 –Rather not avoid this vocal since it can be heard clearly. I suggest using a pattern like this instead:
Picture
I wasn't exactly aiming for the vocals,but more to the clap sound thats in the background of the song
00:35:412 (3) -^
00:42:044 (3) –Perhaps add NC here as well to be consistent with the previous NC’s. Fixed
00:47:096 (3) -^ Fixed
00:49:149 (7,1) –The distance between these two objects are quite small which is weird since the beat on (1) is quite strong and it’s also inconsistent with the previous part and the next part of the pattern. Fixed
00:49:623 (3,4) -^, the beat on (4) isn’t that strong but the spacing is still too small imo since the music’s intensity is strong. Fixed
00:57:202 (1) –This shouldn’t be snapped to 1/6. If you listen to this at 25% you’ll hear it has to be snapped to ¼ instead. idek i like 1/6 for this
00:58:465 (3,4) –A bit more spacing here would be nice to emphasize that vocal on the head of (4) more. I think I'd rather keep it as it is
01:15:675 (3) –The placement of this slider creates quite awkward flow from 01:15:517 (2) – Perhaps try something like this instead:
Picture
I think I'll stick with my current one
There’s probably other better options but I guess anything else will be better then the current placement.

Hard:
01:35:333 – Unnecessary green line. Fixed
00:18:202 (1) –Remove NC here and rather add NC here: 00:18:360 (2) – The strong beat is on (2) so it would make more sense. Fixed
00:20:570 (1) –Unnecessary NC imo. placed nc on the previous note
00:20:254 (3,1,2) –Consider making the spacing between these three notes similar. It looks a bit weird if it isn’t. Fixed
00:22:781 (2,3,4) -^ Fixed
00:31:307 (1,2,3,4) –The spacing here should be similar as well since the beat of the music remains the same here. Fixed
00:31:939 (4) –Maybe change the slider’s shape to something like this instead:
Picture
Nah,even if it does provide consistency and slightly better aesthetics, I think adding a bit more vairety here would be better than symmetry
It’ll support 00:31:465 (2) – so also for consistency.
00:32:570 (2) –Move the tail of this slider upwards a bit so it follows the flow from 00:32:254 (1) – Will play more comfortably.
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Fixed
00:40:939 (3,4,5,6) –It’s a bit weird for me that these notes are spaced out more than 00:31:307 (1,2,3,4) – but both of them share the same beat. Try to stay consistent. Fixed
00:42:202 –Quite an important beat. It’s weird not to map it out cause it sounds like it should. Will consider,but doesn't need to be clickable imo
00:48:360 (1) –Remove the NC here. It’s inconsistent with the rest of the NC’ing patterns. Fixed ;o
00:57:202 (1) –The NC here isn’t really necessary since there’s no SV change. Rather remove the NC here. without NC it may get mistaken as a 1/2 gap
00:57:202 (1,1) –This spacing looks quite big for a Hard diff… I suggest nerfing it just a bit. Fixed
01:06:991 (1) –Unnecessary NC Fixed

If you have any questions regarding my mod, feel free to poke me in-game. Good Luck~!

god damn i got lazy,thanks for the mod!

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-01-10T22:35:35+00:00

hi

taking all these mods into consideration, im just going to remap (the remap of the remap)

sry everyone and thank

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2017-01-17T16:11:25+00:00

General

Custom hitsounds sound odd in this song, I think even the default finish could work better, especially with the cymbals in the song

There's no video in Normal and the CtB difficulty

Check the tags and unicode for the CtB difficulty

619's Normal

00:08:254 (3) - could shift more to the left, would link better with 00:07:939 (2,4)
00:12:675 (2) - have it lower with respect to 00:13:149 (3)
00:13:781 (5) - why the use of the custom drum sounds here, it sounds quite weird, especially when the toms are also in the music at places like 00:16:149 (1,2,3) - 00:17:570 (2) - 00:18:833 (5) -
00:17:096 (1,3,1,2) - weird use of the custom finish hitsound, they seem to be randomly placed. Should it be with the cymbals? Is it going to be cymbals only? What is the purpose of the finish over at 00:17:096 (1,3) - ? So this one is for the cymbals 00:19:623 (1) - ? Could there be a more appropriate hitsound for the sound at 00:21:517 (2) - ?
00:22:149 (1) - likewise could there be another hitsound that could be more appropriate for the music here?
00:22:149 - 00:42:360 - too much whistles, which also isn't consistent, not having the constant 1/2s at times
00:40:939 (3,4) - slider instead to go with the held vocals?
00:43:623 (4) - nothing to go with the toms at the slider end? It's the same as the slider end and circle of 00:42:991 (2,3)
01:17:728 - 01:29:728 - especially 01:25:307 (1,2,3,4,1) - the whistles don't seem to really fit

Kinda mainly due to the choices of custom hitsounds available, but the sounding is just odd overall

Insane

00:06:991 (1,2,3) - lol...you're trying too hard to keep this stacking thing going.... both going in that direction behind the previous object doesn't move that ideally
00:27:518 (2,3) - are you going for a blanket here
00:32:096 (6,7,1) - unstack these, especially 00:32:096 (6,7) - the decreasing spacing of 00:31:623 (3,4,5,6,7) seems to be the opposite of what the music is, I feel there should be more impact at 00:32:254 (7) - which is lost with the stacking
00:32:886 (2) - 00:35:412 (3) - reason for skipping over the vocal here? It does not seem that insignificant in the song
00:51:044 (3,4) - one long slider here, there is nothing at 00:51:202 either
00:58:623 (4) - could be placed higher with respect to 00:58:465 (3) - you won't see 00:57:517 (1) anymore, do not compromise movement between 00:58:465 (3,4) - for that

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-01-17T17:12:53+00:00

Mod requested by Sinnoh

Rain

00:15:991 (1,2,3) - Unessecary long distance, I'd probably ignore the triplet and map it as 1/2 but this definately shouldn't be this strong of a 1/4 hyperdash. 00:18:202 (1,2,3) - same for this but this shouldn't be a dash at all imo
00:20:728 (8,1) - Very long distance, make it equally long to 00:20:096 (4,5) -
00:21:360 (2) - aa what beats support this? Should be a normal 1/2 slider to fit the very very faint sounds
00:32:570 (2,3,4) - You seem to be following vocals at most so maybe make the dash between 00:32:886 (3,4) - to emphasise the vocal
00:35:096 (2,3) - Would make more sense to make the timeline more equal to 00:32:570 (2,3,4) - , the music doesn't change at all
00:37:623 (2,3) - These are placed on the same grid, maybe try adding some distance
00:40:939 (3,1,2) - This isn't neccesary at all, try something like this to emphasize the piano getting weaker
SPOILER
00:43:465 (4,1) - Since there's a beat on the white tick and the vocal is "holding" between these notes it would make sense to make it a slider. Feels empty
00:45:360 (2,3) - Remove this hyperdash and make it a normal dash instead, no reason for double hyper here
00:53:570 (1,2,3) - Waaaaaay too long distance
00:54:912 - You mapped previous triplets so why not here
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - hm, this doesn't need to be hypers imo. It could be enough with a build-up back n forth like this
SPOILER
00:57:202 (1) - imo this would work better as 1/4's
01:12:439 (8,9) - Doesn't make much sense to have hyper here when there's no vocal or drums or anything to support it, try adding hyper here 01:12:280 (6,7) - instead. and btw 01:12:596 (10,1) - way too long distance
01:17:096 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Same as last stream lol, doesn't make any sense to put a lot of hypers here, keep it simple
01:29:570 (3,1) - Maybe add a bit more distance because of the piano
01:30:044 (2,3) - And here too
01:29:728 (1,3) - Swap NC

That's all from me! GL :3

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-18T01:27:32+00:00

k done

Benny- wrote:
Mod requested by Sinnoh

Rain
00:15:991 (1,2,3) - Unessecary long distance, I'd probably ignore the triplet and map it as 1/2 but this definately shouldn't be this strong of a 1/4 hyperdash. 00:18:202 (1,2,3) - same for this but this shouldn't be a dash at all imo Fixed both
00:20:728 (8,1) - Very long distance, make it equally long to 00:20:096 (4,5) - But it's already smaller than 00:20:096 (4,5) - :thinking:
00:21:360 (2) - aa what beats support this? Should be a normal 1/2 slider to fit the very very faint sounds It's definetaly there, it's fine
00:32:570 (2,3,4) - You seem to be following vocals at most so maybe make the dash between 00:32:886 (3,4) - to emphasise the vocal 2,3 is a louder, a more stressed letters and the first syllable of a word. Makes more sense to have it here. 3,4 just kind of follows the sound at 2,3, no impact
00:35:096 (2,3) - Would make more sense to make the timeline more equal to 00:32:570 (2,3,4) - , the music doesn't change at all Changed 00:32:570 (2,3,4) - to be more like 00:35:096 (2,3) - instead
00:37:623 (2,3) - These are placed on the same grid, maybe try adding some distance yes
00:40:939 (3,1,2) - This isn't neccesary at all, try something like this to emphasize the piano getting weaker Done
SPOILER

00:43:465 (4,1) - Since there's a beat on the white tick and the vocal is "holding" between these notes it would make sense to make it a slider. Feels empty That makes sense
00:45:360 (2,3) - Remove this hyperdash and make it a normal dash instead, no reason for double hyper here how did that get there
00:53:570 (1,2,3) - Waaaaaay too long distance k
00:54:912 - You mapped previous triplets so why not here Mixing 1/4 jumps and 1/2 in this situation is a minor form of cancer
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - hm, this doesn't need to be hypers imo. It could be enough with a build-up back n forth like this It's pretty normal to have pp jumps at this part
SPOILER
00:57:202 (1) - imo this would work better as 1/4's k
01:12:439 (8,9) - Doesn't make much sense to have hyper here when there's no vocal or drums or anything to support it, try adding hyper here 01:12:280 (6,7) - instead. and btw 01:12:596 (10,1) - way too long distance This follows the violins, which are by far the most dominant part in the next section.
01:17:096 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Same as last stream lol, doesn't make any sense to put a lot of hypers here, keep it simple same as above, there's enough to justify the dashes.
01:29:570 (3,1) - Maybe add a bit more distance because of the piano :ok_hand:
01:30:044 (2,3) - And here too changed stuff but yeah
01:29:728 (1,3) - Swap NC ye

That's all from me! GL :3 Thanks bae

Meep fix my metadata

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Fresh memes just for you
https://youtu.be/wgjiBioSTNU

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-01-22T10:51:33+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:
hi

taking all these mods into consideration, im just going to remap (the remap of the remap)

sry everyone and thank

im dropping GD, gl everyone and again sorry meep :c

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-01-22T11:12:37+00:00

neonat wrote:
General

Custom hitsounds sound odd in this song, I think even the default finish could work better, especially with the cymbals in the song

There's no video in Normal and the CtB difficulty

Check the tags and unicode for the CtB difficulty

Insane

00:06:991 (1,2,3) - lol...you're trying too hard to keep this stacking thing going.... both going in that direction behind the previous object doesn't move that ideally will try to fix if I find a way

00:27:518 (2,3) - are you going for a blanket here Fixed lul

00:32:096 (6,7,1) - unstack these, especially 00:32:096 (6,7) - the decreasing spacing of 00:31:623 (3,4,5,6,7) seems to be the opposite of what the music is, I feel there should be more impact at 00:32:254 (7) - which is lost with the stacking Fixed
00:32:886 (2) - 00:35:412 (3) - reason for skipping over the vocal here? It does not seem that insignificant in the song Going with the 1/1 pattern I did over on 00:36:044 (1,2) -
00:51:044 (3,4) - one long slider here, there is nothing at 00:51:202 either theres that 'ting' sound on 00:51:202 - so nope xd,will consider
00:58:623 (4) - could be placed higher with respect to 00:58:465 (3) - you won't see 00:57:517 (1) anymore, do not compromise movement between 00:58:465 (3,4) - for that Fixed

thanks for modding :3

Kyuukai

Beatmap Nominator

1,541 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-01-24T21:55:09+00:00

So much wow new GD Easy for ya as requested

This song is about a tragic LoliS' Love Miniature Extra

osu file format v14

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AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57044
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:Yaleufeu's Easy
Source:Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~ re tryment Sinnoh
BeatmapID:0
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[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:2
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//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-01-26T08:45:53+00:00

Will add as soon as my mom gives me back my comp

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-26T13:03:42+00:00

lol

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2017-01-29T22:19:27+00:00

@-Nya-
@neonat
I'll aply mods asap

Zer0-

177 posts

Joined April 2014

Zer0- 2017-01-30T19:55:43+00:00

M4M

HarD

Check AIMod, some objects arent snapped like 01:04:454 (8) - and 01:14:885 (4) -
00:20:570 (2) - this isnt a very strong beat imo, would fit better as a slider tail.
00:30:833 (2) - what is this mapped to?
00:37:465 - strong drum here, might as well map it i think
00:40:781 (2,3,1) - i dont think this is easily readable for a hard diff, i wouldnt stack 2 and 3 on the slider.
01:15:675 (3) - maybe make this a repeat slider to fit the drum in the middle of it too?

Nice diff, sorry I couldnt point out too much!

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,251 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-02-06T05:28:12+00:00

hi~ can I do top diff ctb? I'm experienced so won't have much issues

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-02-06T06:01:40+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
hi~ can I do top diff ctb? I'm experienced so won't have much issues

Sure.. o-o go ahead xd
set may take some time because im inexperienced uwu

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,251 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-02-07T05:45:58+00:00

Here you go! Please copy hitsounds for me

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57044
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 57044
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.6

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:_Meep_
Version:Ascendance's DreaM
Source:Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～
Tags:visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~ re tryment Sinnoh
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:518004

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:9.4
ApproachRate:9.4
SliderMultiplier:1.92
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Tryment.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-07T11:35:07+00:00

Why Easy and not EasY?

kds please

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-02-07T14:39:10+00:00

forgot xd will fix when i can play

Pentori

1,158 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-02-10T15:12:52+00:00

x d
[General]
make sure every diff has video enabled
why is soft-hitclap so quiet lol

[Easy]
the rhythms at the start just seem to gloss over the music and arent really following anything. stuff like 00:02:412 - 00:03:675 - 00:04:939 - 00:06:202 - are all skipped when the piano is really strong there. also sliders such as 00:06:991 (1) - reverse on no specific sound 00:07:623 - while there is a really strong piano beat on the red tick before it that u can use eg. http://puu.sh/tWTkx/21edbe2a2b.jpg

00:12:044 - should increase volume here, as the hitsounds are barely audible
00:42:044 - 00:42:991 - claps such as these dont make much sense, since there are no drums on those beats
00:48:044 (2,3,1,2) - avoid these kind of patterns in an easy, since they kind of defeat the purpose of distance snap. beginners will read the distance between the tail and head http://puu.sh/tWU1i/4c485857fc.jpg and is very misleading
00:56:254 (2) - not sure why you didnt start this slider at 00:56:096 - note is a lot stronger there
01:08:886 (1) - dont think u need the nc here, since your difficulty mostly used long combo chains and this breaks that consistency
01:13:939 (1) - ^
01:15:202 (1) - again, the red ticks is are a lot more powerful here. 01:15:675 - 01:16:307 - shouldn't be skipped
01:22:781 (3) - nc? since you normally did every 2nd measure

[Normal]
00:02:886 (2) - dont think u need the 1/2 slider. its not necessarily emphasising anything
00:22:149 - why is this section so dense? most of it is mapped to nothing, you could easily work rhythms around vocals to lower the density here so that it mimics the songs intensity. stuff like 00:23:096 (3) - doesnt need to be clicked and 00:28:465 (4) - is really weak, a rhythm such as http://puu.sh/tWUNv/17e5956dd1.jpg would work better imo

00:41:412 (1,2,3) - should probably avoid using 1/2 chains like this, too many objects are on the screen at once so spread ends up being off
01:05:412 - 01:06:044 - 01:06:675 - claps?
01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm is just too inconsistent. 01:15:202 (1) - follows the kick drums and melody, yet 01:15:675 (2) - skips over the kick drum and melody on 01:15:991 - try reconsider this
01:16:307 (4) - i wouldnt use a reverse here, 01:17:096 - is more powerful than 01:17:254 . you could just remove a repeat and add a circle to 01:17:096

[Hard]
od is pretty low, why not use 6 or 6.5, the insane is 7.9
00:08:254 (1) - remove nc, u normally nc'ed per 2nd measure
00:12:044 (1,2,3) - 00:12:675 (3,4,5) - spacings between these seem really inconsistent
00:19:939 (2,1) - could avoid that overlap, check with stacking enabled
00:46:465 (5,7) - kinda messy imo. y not place it somewhere around the tail of 00:45:991 (4)
00:55:307 (2,1) - should just swap the nc here, since this is treated as one pattern
00:55:939 (1,2) - ^ also here too for vocal emphasis
00:59:096 (5,7) - these should be hitsounded in the same manner, since they are the same sounds
01:01:149 (4) - not the best flow imo, since it goes against natural movement. ctrl h would be better
01:09:754 - 01:10:386 - should apply soft samplesets to these slider ends to mute them
01:11:886 - the music is still pretty intense, so adding a circle here might represent that better
01:25:939 (1,2,3) - u should use more distance here imo, looks too similar to 1/1 spacings and can be misleading
01:29:096 (1) - ^ also u dont need nc, since the density is really low
01:31:623 (1) - remove nc

[Insane]
00:37:939 (1) - do you really need the nc? you didnt do this previously 00:35:412 (3)
00:37:939 (1) - ^
00:44:570 (5,1) - using similar 1/4 spacing as 00:40:939 (3,4) - would help ppl to recognise patterns
00:44:807 - silence slider end ;w;
00:48:833 (5,1) - stack?
00:57:202 (1) - this is just 1/4
01:02:254 (3,1) - plays pretty poorly since movement is slowed significantly after 01:01:623 (1,2,3) - which builds so much momentum
01:11:097 (2) - using such small spacing makes flow so restricted. mirroring 01:10:465 (2,1) - would work so much better imo http://puu.sh/tWWUp/244cf421c1.jpg
01:11:412 (1,2) - ^ and u can probably work something else out here, the way 01:11:728 (2) - flows into the stream is quite linear, when the previous flow concepts were circular making this very unconfortable
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wtf dont overmap like that pls
01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - sliders seem pretty randomly placed, see if u can do some patterning that flows better
01:17:096 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - probably have to chill a bit with the way you use streams. in hard, you only had simple reverse sliders, while here your using a high spaced 9 note stream. i would try break this up and use spacing appropriate for the difficulty
01:19:465 - remove whistle? better to keep the whistles to emphasis piano
01:21:833 (1) - ^ whistle on head not tail
01:23:886 (1) - strong piano on 01:24:044 - that u should try to map
01:26:412 (4) - imo following the descending piano notes would play nicer, since you seemed to place emphasis on the piano with sliders like 01:19:307 (5,6,7)

gl o:

Kyuukai

Beatmap Nominator

1,541 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-02-11T13:20:21+00:00

Pentori wrote:
x d
[Easy]
the rhythms at the start just seem to gloss over the music and arent really following anything. stuff like 00:02:412 - 00:03:675 - 00:04:939 - 00:06:202 - are all skipped when the piano is really strong there. also sliders such as 00:06:991 (1) - reverse on no specific sound 00:07:623 - while there is a really strong piano beat on the red tick before it that u can use eg. http://puu.sh/tWTkx/21edbe2a2b.jpg applied but I'm mapping full 1/1 so that requires to skip alot of 1/2 piano sounds

00:12:044 - should increase volume here, as the hitsounds are barely audible done
00:42:044 - 00:42:991 - claps such as these dont make much sense, since there are no drums on those beats
00:48:044 (2,3,1,2) - avoid these kind of patterns in an easy, since they kind of defeat the purpose of distance snap. beginners will read the distance between the tail and head http://puu.sh/tWU1i/4c485857fc.jpg and is very misleading changed
00:56:254 (2) - not sure why you didnt start this slider at 00:56:096 - note is a lot stronger there I'm mapping full 1/1, making the slider start at the red tick there would make the player confused since the whole map is mapped 1/1
01:08:886 (1) - dont think u need the nc here, since your difficulty mostly used long combo chains and this breaks that consistency fixed
01:13:939 (1) - ^ fixed
01:15:202 (1) - again, the red ticks is are a lot more powerful here. 01:15:675 - 01:16:307 - shouldn't be skipped 1/1 mapping again, don't want to break the consistancy
01:22:781 (3) - nc? since you normally did every 2nd measure fixed

I'll leave the hitsounding to Meep since I didn't made them myself

dis songzZzZzZz is about a tragic lovezZzZzZz

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Kalindraz

Beatmap Nominator

573 posts

Joined January 2013

Kalindraz 2017-02-11T15:38:07+00:00

post after qualification, congrats meep! u did
\o - - o/

619

413 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2017-02-13T09:13:55+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
619's NormaL:
Uncheck widescreen support.
HP drain rate is too low for a Normal imo. 3 is normally used for Easy. Raise it to 4. - Done
00:01:939 –An inherited timing point (green line) may not be placed on an uninherited timing point (red line) except if it’s to change the slider velocity, but in this case you didn’t change the SV so the green line must be removed. - Done
01:29:728 – Unnecessary green line. - Removed
00:01:939 (1) –You missed a whistle on the tail of this slider. - Done
00:06:991 (1) -^, the tail - Done
00:07:939 (2) -^, there may be more but I’m not gonna point them out. Just go through the intro of the diff again and make sure you hitsounded all the piano sounds with whistles. You may have missed more in the rest of the diff as well, so it will probably be best to go through the whole diff and make sure all the pianos are hitsounded. - I'll try to copy hs from _Meep_ diff
00:19:307 –It would be nice if you made this important beat clickable, but I’m also not so sure since it can be a problem if the pattern gets too long… Up to you. -Ok, i'll leave as it
Picture

Thanks for mod!

neonat wrote:
There's no video in Normal - Done

619's Normal

00:08:254 (3) - could shift more to the left, would link better with 00:07:939 (2,4) - Done
00:12:675 (2) - have it lower with respect to 00:13:149 (3) - No, here is stack with 00:10:781 (2) -
00:13:781 (5) - why the use of the custom drum sounds here, it sounds quite weird, especially when the toms are also in the music at places like 00:16:149 (1,2,3) - 00:17:570 (2) - 00:18:833 (5) -
00:17:096 (1,3,1,2) - weird use of the custom finish hitsound, they seem to be randomly placed. Should it be with the cymbals? Is it going to be cymbals only? What is the purpose of the finish over at 00:17:096 (1,3) - ? So this one is for the cymbals 00:19:623 (1) - ? Could there be a more appropriate hitsound for the sound at 00:21:517 (2) - ?
00:22:149 (1) - likewise could there be another hitsound that could be more appropriate for the music here?
00:22:149 - 00:42:360 - too much whistles, which also isn't consistent, not having the constant 1/2s at times - I'll try to copy hs from _Meep_ diff
00:40:939 (3,4) - slider instead to go with the held vocals? - Hm, good idea, but i leave it as it
00:43:623 (4) - nothing to go with the toms at the slider end? It's the same as the slider end and circle of 00:42:991 (2,3) - I dont understand, sorry
01:17:728 - 01:29:728 - especially 01:25:307 (1,2,3,4,1) - the whistles don't seem to really fit - I'll reHS diff, thanks

Kinda mainly due to the choices of custom hitsounds available, but the sounding is just odd overall

Thanks for mod!

Pentori wrote:
[Normal]
00:02:886 (2) - dont think u need the 1/2 slider. its not necessarily emphasising anything - Сompletely different sounds imo
00:22:149 - why is this section so dense? most of it is mapped to nothing, you could easily work rhythms around vocals to lower the density here so that it mimics the songs intensity. stuff like 00:23:096 (3) - doesnt need to be clicked and 00:28:465 (4) - is really weak, a rhythm such as http://puu.sh/tWUNv/17e5956dd1.jpg would work better imo - You're right, i'll remap

00:41:412 (1,2,3) - should probably avoid using 1/2 chains like this, too many objects are on the screen at once so spread ends up being off
01:05:412 - 01:06:044 - 01:06:675 - claps? - y
01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm is just too inconsistent. 01:15:202 (1) - follows the kick drums and melody, yet 01:15:675 (2) - skips over the kick drum and melody on 01:15:991 - try reconsider this - i'll try
01:16:307 (4) - i wouldnt use a reverse here, 01:17:096 - is more powerful than 01:17:254 . you could just remove a repeat and add a circle to 01:17:096 - Ok

Thanks for mod!

Tbh, i want remap. Or kick me from mapset.

Kyuukai

Beatmap Nominator

1,541 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-02-14T19:22:16+00:00

619 wrote:
Tbh, i want remap. Or kick me from mapset.

Well, if u do the map will gather more and more SP, and I think meep is kinda tired of getting mods on this mapset.

_Meep_

1,725 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-02-19T00:15:43+00:00

Pentori wrote:
x d
[General]
make sure every diff has video enabled
why is soft-hitclap so quiet lol

[Hard]
od is pretty low, why not use 6 or 6.5, the insane is 7.9
00:08:254 (1) - remove nc, u normally nc'ed per 2nd measure
00:12:044 (1,2,3) - 00:12:675 (3,4,5) - spacings between these seem really inconsistent
00:19:939 (2,1) - could avoid that overlap, check with stacking enabled
00:46:465 (5,7) - kinda messy imo. y not place it somewhere around the tail of 00:45:991 (4)
00:55:307 (2,1) - should just swap the nc here, since this is treated as one pattern
00:55:939 (1,2) - ^ also here too for vocal emphasis
00:59:096 (5,7) - these should be hitsounded in the same manner, since they are the same sounds
01:01:149 (4) - not the best flow imo, since it goes against natural movement. ctrl h would be better
01:09:754 - 01:10:386 - should apply soft samplesets to these slider ends to mute them
01:11:886 - the music is still pretty intense, so adding a circle here might represent that better
01:25:939 (1,2,3) - u should use more distance here imo, looks too similar to 1/1 spacings and can be misleading
01:29:096 (1) - ^ also u dont need nc, since the density is really low
01:31:623 (1) - remove nc

[Insane]
00:37:939 (1) - do you really need the nc? you didnt do this previously 00:35:412 (3) idek how that got there but fixed
00:37:939 (1) - ^ lol fail u hl'd same note
00:44:570 (5,1) - using similar 1/4 spacing as 00:40:939 (3,4) - would help ppl to recognise patterns I dont think this is a big problem XD
00:44:807 - silence slider end ;w; Fixed
00:48:833 (5,1) - stack? no,so i made it further apart instead
00:57:202 (1) - this is just 1/4 fits the intensity better with 1/6 and this debate has been going on forever mai gawd ;v
01:02:254 (3,1) - plays pretty poorly since movement is slowed significantly after 01:01:623 (1,2,3) - which builds so much momentum doesn't seem to affect gameplay from my perspective,will ask others.
01:11:097 (2) - using such small spacing makes flow so restricted. mirroring 01:10:465 (2,1) - would work so much better imo http://puu.sh/tWWUp/244cf421c1.jpg I can see where you're coming from,since the distance between the 1-2 in your screenshot is so much bigger and allows the player to move a lot more freely,however this comes with consequences too, because the music here is same in intensity, I'd have to make all the jumps like this and would soon run out of space because there isn't enough for the stream that is mapped later on,I mapped a pattern for this part so as to make it look nicer and to decrease sr a bit ><
01:11:412 (1,2) - ^ and u can probably work something else out here, the way 01:11:728 (2) - flows into the stream is quite linear, when the previous flow concepts were circular making this very unconfortable I don't really find a problem with this imo,I'll go ask for some tests and see how they respond then.
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wtf dont overmap like that pls bass emphasis and there should be enough intensity to support it
01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - sliders seem pretty randomly placed, see if u can do some patterning that flows better In a way they move according to where the next one will be, only the first two are a bit vague,the rest play a flow that feels comfortable and fun for the player,it's meant to be far apart and not meant to be in any sort of pattern,and also its meant to look a bit messy because intensity is at its peak for this song,therefore imagine pp jumps going crazy but replace them with sliders ;v
01:17:096 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - probably have to chill a bit with the way you use streams. in hard, you only had simple reverse sliders, while here your using a high spaced 9 note stream. i would try break this up and use spacing appropriate for the difficulty will consider
01:19:465 - remove whistle? better to keep the whistles to emphasis piano
01:21:833 (1) - ^ whistle on head not tail Fixed
01:23:886 (1) - strong piano on 01:24:044 - that u should try to map vocalzFixed
01:26:412 (4) - imo following the descending piano notes would play nicer, since you seemed to place emphasis on the piano with sliders like 01:19:307 (5,6,7) remapped part

gl o:

thanks for modding

~~will apply hard diff tmrw~~
all fixed in hard except for ' 01:25:939 (1,2,3) - u should use more distance here imo, looks too similar to 1/1 spacings and can be misleading' because I feel that its easy enuf to know that they are 1/1 and the spacing is clearly different from the rest.

Last edited by _Meep_ 2017-03-10T21:27:49+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-02-23T06:32:32+00:00

no kudosu
edit: u fuckin wut

i want to get off ascendance's pp ride
00:06:202 (2) - Slider goes over fairly loud piano, could change rhythm
00:11:728 (3) - consider more angle since this is still the opening, and you use this angle at the final part of chorus
00:15:044 (2,3) - Consider making less edge-dashy cause it's reducing in pitch
00:18:517 (2) - Probably overspaced here
00:28:307 (4) - nc
00:28:307 (4,5) - Could be underspaced
00:35:412 (3,4) - ^
00:39:202 (3) - Reduce slider speed cause less emphasis
00:46:465 (2,3) - Could be better if 2 was angled so it moved less compared to 3
01:02:570 (1,2) - Maybe overspaced
01:17:412 (3,4,5,6) - Underspaced,
01:24:675 (2) - Doesn't flow to the right well
01:26:412 (3,4) - ^
01:26:412 (3) - nc
01:30:360 (1,1) - Should these really be 1/4 hdashes, also the speed they go at is really easy for miss drops, consider reducing
01:31:623 (1) - hitsound

Last edited by Xinnoh 2017-03-03T14:06:25+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

TequilaWolf

279 posts

Joined November 2013

TequilaWolf 2017-02-23T12:08:59+00:00

mod

Nowa's FloweR-

00:06:202 (2,3) - you can try using a 1/2 slider starting from 00:06:044 and a circle on 00:06:360 (3) - , sounds ok to me even though it doesn't actually start on a beat

00:07:465 (2) - consider 1/1 slider

00:21:360 (2) - unnecessary I think, there's no sound. also you can try positioning 00:20:886 (1) - higher up and stacking it with 00:22:149 (1) -

00:23:412 (1) - why not 2 1/2 sliders like you did here 00:25:939 (1,2) -

00:33:044 (4,5,1) - think you can stack 4 on 5/1, feels better

01:25:623 (2) - maybe you can ctrl+g this for flow

01:27:833 (1) - I think using 2 circles at 01:27:675 and 01:27:833 might be better

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Nowaie

1,025 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-02-23T18:37:56+00:00

TequilaWolf wrote:
mod
Nowa's FloweR-

00:06:202 (2,3) - you can try using a 1/2 slider starting from 00:06:044 and a circle on 00:06:360 (3) - , sounds ok to me even though it doesn't actually start on a beat RC doesn't let me do something like this

00:07:465 (2) - consider 1/1 slider I pretty much have every single similiar piano beat mapped as a single hitcircle so there isn't really a reason to map this one differently

00:21:360 (2) - unnecessary I think, there's no sound. also you can try positioning 00:20:886 (1) - higher up and stacking it with 00:22:149 (1) - What do you mean by that there is no sound? Also a big jump there does not really fit to the (descending) rhythm

00:23:412 (1) - why not 2 1/2 sliders like you did here 00:25:939 (1,2) - 00:23:728 - The vocal here is more like an echo than the initial vocal ascending like here 00:26:254 - so that's why i'd prefer to keep it like so

00:33:044 (4,5,1) - think you can stack 4 on 5/1, feels better I don't want jumps there

01:25:623 (2) - maybe you can ctrl+g this for flow I'm not really looking for flow in that pattern. Though i have to redo it because it does not really represent the song too well

01:27:833 (1) - I think using 2 circles at 01:27:675 and 01:27:833 might be better 01:27:675 - There is nothing mappable here and the other one acts as a hitcircle already but it takes the whatever instrument the other sliderpoints are mapped on into the count aswell

Thanks for the suggestions

Upd

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-NanoRIPE-

2,084 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2017-02-25T08:37:08+00:00

yo

easy
00:10:781 (1) - im prefer you put 3/2 reverse slider here ~ for emphatize the piano more
00:01:939 (1) - im prefer you add 3/2 reverse slider here ~ for emphatize the piano more
00:04:465 (1) - ^
00:10:781 (1) - ^ cause the piano is strong at 00:11:254 -
00:24:675 (4) - nc here for consistency
00:29:728 (4) - ^
00:41:728 (3,1) - overlap a bit
00:52:781 (3) - nc here
00:56:254 (2) - i think the slider should be start at 00:56:096 cause the vocal looks strong at that
01:03:517 (2) - hmm you made reverse slider here but you skipped the strong beat at 01:04:465 - so maybe make the slider unreverse and then 1/1 slider?
01:16:307 - hmm you should map this imo cause the cymbal looks strong here
01:17:728 (1) - finish for cymbal

gl

(and maybe if you have free time,would you mod my map? just the easy diff :3 if you dont mind ~)

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,967 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-03-03T14:11:29+00:00

no kudosu

Not a BN's BN check

General

Difficulty Spread : What's with the HP and OD being all over the place, decimal HP does literally nothing. Make it more linear/whole numbers
Background Size : You can use 1080p one if you have it
Unsnapped objects : Hard, Rain (wtf how)
Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : gr8
Metadata Issues : add retryment to the tags you fucktard
Timeline Issues : In the diffs
Combo Colors : Normal is the only diff to use a slider border, change?
Unused Hitsounds : fine
Hitsounds Issues : You don't have a silent normal-sliderslide.wav
Unused Files / Other : meme

Easy
SV might be too high imo
00:06:991 (1) - 01:29:728 (2) - These are the only object on the 1/2 snap in the diff, remove/simplify? https://puu.sh/uslwB/4c1090eec6.png
00:06:991 (1) - Could rotate so it blankets 00:05:728 (3) - and flows to 00:08:254 (2) - better
00:09:517 (1,2) - Move 2 left or tail of 1 right so that this triggers me less
00:15:833 (3) - Why does this slider go over the violins? Imo should be clickable (that said I rarely map easies so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
00:26:570 (6,1) - Blanket
00:37:939 (2) - Minor but move away a bit so it's consistent with the spacing of 1
00:53:096 (4) - NC somewhere?
00:58:465 (2) - The rhythm should really be on the large ticks here, feels weird, again, unexperienced with easy diffs so idk
01:03:517 (2,2) - Only spot with an overlap, could change but not needed
01:12:675 (1,2,3) - Bit odd that the exact same pattern maps two different parts. Should mixup imo
01:15:202 (1) - Give little bit more blanket space for breathing room
01:24:991 (3,1) - ^
01:21:833 (2) - Option to blanket around tail so it makes it a bit different, last slider was lower pitched.
01:30:360 (1) - Could just change to reverse slider so player doesn't have to read weird rhythm on last circle, or just do something like Insane diff

Normal
00:01:939 (1) - & 01:29:728 (2) - Unused timeline points
00:08:254 (3) - Move left a little. Triangles 00:06:675 (3,2,3) -, flows to 2 and 4 better
00:23:096 (3) - Why is 3 clickable with no sound, but 00:23:412 (4,5) - have words on their tail and aren't clickable (00:28:149 (3) - is supported so fine)
00:25:939 (3) - Hitsound
00:36:675 (5) - Move red tick so angle matches up with vocal change + better blanket + consistency
00:48:360 (2,3) - Nothing special here that justifies two circles in a row, nitpicky though
01:15:202 (1,2) - pls just rotate either one so they're both 5degree angle or straight

Hard
00:05:728 (2) - Rip aesthetics
You used antiflow at 00:26:570 (6,1) - but not 00:36:675 (7,1) -, should/could change so they're similar or just change so 6 flows somewhere other than top left corner
00:40:781 (2,3,1) - Unsure if this is readable
00:52:781 (2) - Yeah these finish spams don't work
01:00:044 (1,2) - Doesn't flow, can't check cause using trackpad
01:25:307 (1) - Rip aesthetics
01:30:360 (1) - Just add a white slider point before the red ones so it's curved
01:35:412 (1) - You can remove a green line here if you apply sampleset-normal to the spinner. Applies to Insane. (Also spinner sound is inconsistent with other diffs cause some have hitnormal some don't)

Insane
00:06:991 (1) - Rotate by 5-10 degrees
00:19:307 (5) - Kind of ignoring an important sound on red tick, change to a slider?
00:21:360 (2) - imo should be 4x like my diff, optional
00:57:202 (1) - The violin follows 1/4, why is this 1/6
01:00:517 (3,4,5) - Doesn't reallly emphasise vocals because 3,4 is larger than 4,5
01:25:939 (3,4) - This flow has mild cancer, not sure why slider flow breaks here.
01:30:360 (1) - Still has better circular flow if you ctrl-g

Flower
00:42:044 (1) - Imo would be better if it was a little lower, but minor.
01:07:623 (1) - 01:12:675 (1) - Unused timing points
Hitsounds in the kiai are significantly weaker than the rest of the song, use more of the normal-hitormal
01:32:254 (1) - I like the more interesting take on the final part here

Rain
Unsnapped shit everywhere because a green line got deleted
00:18:833 (4) - increased slider leniency here
00:30:202 (2,2) - reduced distance a little
00:54:360 (5) - reduced slider difficulty here
fixed NCs
wow perfect diff - fixed all http://pastebin.com/u6LZN7kM

I already did Ascendance's diff in the last post.

Kyuukai

Beatmap Nominator

1,541 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-03-07T08:58:19+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
yo

easy
00:10:781 (1) - im prefer you put 3/2 reverse slider here ~ for emphatize the piano more no, I don't want to break the consistancy of the map by making sliderends on red ticks since I've mapped full 1/1
00:01:939 (1) - im prefer you add 3/2 reverse slider here ~ for emphatize the piano more ^
00:04:465 (1) - ^ ^
00:10:781 (1) - ^ cause the piano is strong at 00:11:254 - ^
00:24:675 (4) - nc here for consistency ok
00:29:728 (4) - ^ ^
00:41:728 (3,1) - overlap a bit its not overlapped D:
00:52:781 (3) - nc here ok
00:56:254 (2) - i think the slider should be start at 00:56:096 cause the vocal looks strong at that no, would break the consistancy
01:03:517 (2) - hmm you made reverse slider here but you skipped the strong beat at 01:04:465 - so maybe make the slider unreverse and then 1/1 slider? why not
01:16:307 - hmm you should map this imo cause the cymbal looks strong here blame meep
01:17:728 (1) - finish for cymbal ^

gl ty for modding

(and maybe if you have free time,would you mod my map? just the easy diff :3 if you dont mind ~) ask meep xddd

Sinnoh wrote:
Easy
SV might be too high imo no its not xddd
00:06:991 (1) - 01:29:728 (2) - These are the only object on the 1/2 snap in the diff, remove/simplify? https://puu.sh/uslwB/4c1090eec6.png well, it would feel really weird to not map the 1/2 on thoses, and the sliders ends on a 1/1 tick so I don't think its a problem
00:06:991 (1) - Could rotate so it blankets 00:05:728 (3) - and flows to 00:08:254 (2) - better not needed, the 3 is emphasized by placing it under the 00:06:675 (4) - while the 00:05:728 (3,4) - makes a linear movement. 00:08:254 (2,3) - have different soundings, so a flow like that is not really a prob
00:09:517 (1,2) - Move 2 left or tail of 1 right so that this triggers me less yes xdd
00:15:833 (3) - Why does this slider go over the violins? Imo should be clickable (that said I rarely map easies so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) because i'm simplifying the map
00:26:570 (6,1) - Blanket fixed
00:37:939 (2) - Minor but move away a bit so it's consistent with the spacing of 1 but I've used Distance snapping through the whole map how can the distance be not consistent
00:53:096 (4) - NC somewhere? last mod fix
00:58:465 (2) - The rhythm should really be on the large ticks here, feels weird, again, unexperienced with easy diffs so idk simplifying the rhythm of the piano, mapping too much would make em' confused
01:03:517 (2,2) - Only spot with an overlap, could change but not needed changed with the last mod
01:12:675 (1,2,3) - Bit odd that the exact same pattern maps two different parts. Should mixup imo 01:13:939 (3) - is just a more intense sound of 01:12:675 (1) - so the pattern kinda fits I guess
01:15:202 (1) - Give little bit more blanket space for breathing room dunno how, distance snapping problems xdd
01:24:991 (3,1) - ^ ^
01:21:833 (2) - Option to blanket around tail so it makes it a bit different, last slider was lower pitched. alright
01:30:360 (1) - Could just change to reverse slider so player doesn't have to read weird rhythm on last circle, or just do something like Insane diff. okay xd

ty for modding

not even tragic love

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75,181,38570,2,0,L|115:335,1,160,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,357,39517,1,2,0:0:0:0:
271,336,39833,6,0,L|311:181,2,160,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,357,41412,1,2,0:0:0:0:
115,335,41728,2,0,L|93:248,1,79.9999999999999,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,194,42360,6,0,L|66:107,2,79.9999999999999,12|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
23,271,43307,1,8,3:1:0:0:
75,331,43623,2,0,P|153:315|256:339,1,160,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,354,44570,1,8,0:0:0:0:
383,329,44886,6,0,L|391:152,1,160,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
353,98,45833,1,8,3:1:0:0:
284,138,46149,2,0,P|198:147|113:117,1,160,0|10,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
59,86,47096,1,2,3:1:0:0:
129,47,47412,5,12,0:0:0:0:
83,200,48044,2,0,P|39:208|2:202,2,79.9999999999999,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,128,49307,2,0,P|256:119|373:174,1,160,10|4,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
246,270,50570,6,0,P|206:273|167:263,2,79.9999999999999,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,167,51833,2,0,P|398:158|515:213,1,160,10|12,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
500,285,52781,5,2,0:0:0:0:
481,362,53096,2,0,P|436:365|380:351,1,79.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,328,53728,2,0,P|287:321|247:324,1,79.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,353,54360,1,8,0:0:0:0:
95,331,54675,1,2,0:0:0:0:
18,306,54991,6,0,P|13:219|38:132,1,160,12|10,0:0|3:1,0:0:0:0:
175,81,56254,2,0,P|180:168|155:255,1,160
56,358,57517,6,0,L|248:342,1,160,4|0,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
295,339,58465,1,8,0:1:0:0:
343,186,59096,2,0,L|330:79,2,79.9999999999999,10|2|10,0:1|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
346,266,60044,6,0,L|153:250,1,160,2|0,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
107,247,60992,1,8,0:1:0:0:
29,107,61623,2,0,L|42:0,2,79.9999999999999,10|2|10,0:1|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
21,186,62570,6,0,L|209:168,1,160,2|0,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
253,205,63517,2,0,P|250:128|184:90,1,160,8|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
104,92,64465,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,164,64781,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,236,65096,6,0,P|124:272|184:296,1,79.9999999999999,6|8,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
232,276,65728,2,0,P|309:258|410:304,2,160,6|6|10,3:1|3:1|3:1,0:0:0:0:
165,319,67307,1,10,3:1:0:0:
112,260,67623,6,0,P|91:183|110:106,1,160,6|2,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
188,90,68570,1,8,0:1:0:0:
256,130,68886,2,0,P|275:206|254:283,1,160,6|2,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
188,327,69833,1,8,0:1:0:0:
120,283,70149,6,0,P|71:301|39:304,2,79.9999999999999,6|8|2,0:1|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
190,244,71096,1,8,0:1:0:0:
246,186,71412,2,0,P|295:168|327:165,2,79.9999999999999,2|8|10,0:1|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
190,244,72360,1,8,0:1:0:0:
267,262,72675,6,0,P|348:280|452:245,1,160,14|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
479,207,73623,1,10,0:1:0:0:
421,148,73939,2,0,P|344:130|267:148,1,160,14|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
213,207,74886,1,10,0:1:0:0:
164,270,75202,6,0,P|133:201|179:135,2,160,2|8|0,0:1|0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
243,281,76781,2,0,L|347:272,1,79.9999999999999,10|10,0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
402,266,77412,1,8,0:1:0:0:
460,210,77728,6,0,P|470:107|402:72,2,160,0|0|2,0:1|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,153,79307,2,0,L|312:142,2,79.9999999999999,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,210,80254,6,0,P|470:313|402:348,2,160,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,267,81833,2,0,P|364:298|354:336,2,79.9999999999999,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,210,82781,6,0,P|474:129|443:47,2,160,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,267,84360,2,0,P|352:271|286:259,1,79.9999999999999,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
246,260,84991,1,2,0:0:0:0:
174,224,85307,6,0,P|167:274|251:340,2,160,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
227,73,87202,1,2,0:0:0:0:
379,120,87833,6,0,P|387:199|355:282,2,160,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
227,73,89728,2,0,P|182:62|131:79,1,79.9999999999999,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,106,90360,6,0,P|71:232|230:187,2,320,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,93044,12,6,95412,0:1:0:0:

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_Meep_

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Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2017-03-07T14:27:05+00:00

why do i keep giving sinnoh kds well knowing he shouldnt be having kds :thonkang:
i have inhumane reactions

Kyuukai

Beatmap Nominator

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Kyuukai 2017-03-07T20:32:49+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
why do i keep giving sinnoh kds well knowing he shouldnt be having kds :thonkang:
i have inhumane reactions

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-03-10T21:09:00+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
no kudosu

Not a BN's BN check

Hard
00:05:728 (2) - Rip aesthetics Fixed
You used antiflow at 00:26:570 (6,1) - but not 00:36:675 (7,1) -, should/could change so they're similar or just change so 6 flows somewhere other than top left corner I never really thought about this lol,I just went with what I thought felt natural,I'll see if it needs changes
00:40:781 (2,3,1) - Unsure if this is readable Unstacked.
00:52:781 (2) - Yeah these finish spams don't work wut finishes theres only whistles ._.
01:00:044 (1,2) - Doesn't flow, can't check cause using trackpad doesn't exactly need to flow well imo, she emphasises her voice quite a lot here and the sudden change in direction/placement of cursor should be able to clearly emphasize her bootiful voice
01:25:307 (1) - Rip aesthetics but this ones fine ;w;
01:30:360 (1) - Just add a white slider point before the red ones so it's curved meh >_>
01:35:412 (1) - You can remove a green line here if you apply sampleset-normal to the spinner. Applies to Insane. (Also spinner sound is inconsistent with other diffs cause some have hitnormal some don't) Fixed

Insane
00:06:991 (1) - Rotate by 5-10 degrees Fixed
00:19:307 (5) - Kind of ignoring an important sound on red tick, change to a slider? Fixed
00:21:360 (2) - imo should be 4x like my diff, optional meh .-.
00:57:202 (1) - The violin follows 1/4, why is this 1/6 tbh we dont give a damn anymore, neither do I, I feel like this fits the intensity of the buildup so I leave it as 1/6,unless someone actually can hear 1/4 and 1/6 separately in a 1 second timeframe whilist playing oss, i dont think it matters.
01:00:517 (3,4,5) - Doesn't reallly emphasise vocals because 3,4 is larger than 4,5 I don't exactly get you here, she says 'mo' at 4, and its because she upped her pitch a bit on saying that,thats why I place it further.
01:25:939 (3,4) - This flow has mild cancer, not sure why slider flow breaks here. Doesn't always need to flow well,I went with what felt natural here, and its a slow part,so i dont think anyone would care XD
01:30:360 (1) - Still has better circular flow if you ctrl-g NU DONT TOUCH MY FLOWER ;w; well i dont think it needs circular flow in the first place ._.

http://pastebin.com/u6LZN7kM

I already did Ascendance's diff in the last post.

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-03-15T04:27:17+00:00

Nowa

00:15:833 (1) - There is a drum kick here but not a piano note so it feels a bit odd that to have this note here as it seems the entire pattern from 00:13:307 (1) to 00:20:886 (1) is following the piano. I really do think a turning 00:15:675 (7) into a half slider would follow it better. If you really didn't want to do that at least have a change of flow from 00:15:833 (1) -
00:33:044 (4) - you've mapped this vocal sound with a held note (slider) for the rest of the section. Feels a bit weird rhythmically to have this as a circle at this specific spot
00:34:781 (1,2) - doesn't look too appealing aesthetically, in fact looks somewhat random and out of place. Recommend to just stack like 00:24:675 (1,2) for a more cleaner and polished look
01:02:254 (1,1) - because of the SV change these look like 2 1/2 sliders visually. As a result it throws you off whilst playing, do something to make the 1/4 gap more obvious

Insane

00:30:675 (3,4) - I'm not really sure about stacking the circle on the slider head like for the readability and the flow of the pattern as well as the emphasis given to the downbeat. After some thought I'm starting to think this may be subjective but I'm gonna say it anyways because reasons

[]GL!

Nowaie

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Nowaie 2017-03-20T01:15:12+00:00

Holy it has been a long time since i touched this

Sinnoh wrote:
Flower
00:42:044 (1) - Imo would be better if it was a little lower, but minor. I'll try a different kind of slider
01:07:623 (1) - 01:12:675 (1) - Unused timing points Removed first one, pumped the second one to like 75% volume
Hitsounds in the kiai are significantly weaker than the rest of the song, use more of the normal-hitormal Will be making some changes
01:32:254 (1) - I like the more interesting take on the final part here ^_^

Kisses wrote:
Nowa
00:15:833 (1) - There is a drum kick here but not a piano note so it feels a bit odd that to have this note here as it seems the entire pattern from 00:13:307 (1) to 00:20:886 (1) is following the piano. I really do think a turning 00:15:675 (7) into a half slider would follow it better. If you really didn't want to do that at least have a change of flow from 00:15:833 (1) - I guess i was kinda dumb back when i mapped this... changed stuff around and it should be better
00:33:044 (4) - you've mapped this vocal sound with a held note (slider) for the rest of the section. Feels a bit weird rhythmically to have this as a circle at this specific spot Fixed
00:34:781 (1,2) - doesn't look too appealing aesthetically, in fact looks somewhat random and out of place. Recommend to just stack like 00:24:675 (1,2) for a more cleaner and polished look I agree 100%
01:02:254 (1,1) - because of the SV change these look like 2 1/2 sliders visually. As a result it throws you off whilst playing, do something to make the 1/4 gap more obvious The NCs should warn enough, also why would i use that small spacing for 1/2 sliders in the kiai anyway

upd tomorrow, kinda sad this won't like ever get nominated

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-03-25T04:21:22+00:00

Im loving this set, I dont see it going anywhere and I think I cant work on it anymore
sad i cant get bns
sorry guys.
I'll wait for nowa to do some changes on his hitsounds,then we love it
then again
im sorry.

Nowaie

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Nowaie 2017-03-25T13:03:09+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
Im loving this set, I dont see it going anywhere and I think I cant work on it anymore
sad i cant get bns
sorry guys.
I'll wait for nowa to do some changes on his hitsounds,then we love it
then again
im sorry.

Sometimes something like this happens, sadly. What is with BNs not wanting to nominate stuff from new mappers that look promising, promoting their mapping and making them want to improve and continue their mapping career

Not straight up begin friends with nominators should not be a reason to not get something nominated

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2017-03-25T13:33:27+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
Im loving this set, I dont see it going anywhere and I think I cant work on it anymore
sad i cant get bns
sorry guys.
I'll wait for nowa to do some changes on his hitsounds,then we love it
then again
im sorry.

Pentori checked ur map, but he didn't nominate ur stuff, so what's the problem ? I think it's pretty obvious, the mapset is not ready yet.

It's not that the mapset is not going anywhere, it's just that the map can be improved, and I think that this map can get ranked if you work on it a little more. You can rank it, it might take a while, but you can. If you choose to make it Loved, well I'm fine with it, but it has the potential to get ranked and it would be sad seeing it Loved instead of ranked.

I know it's a pain to look for BNs tho, every ranked or qualified map are made by the same mappers and new ones are left behind.

Riari

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Riari 2017-03-26T09:45:11+00:00

~~ctb is bad thats why~~

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2017-03-26T13:25:03+00:00

Riari wrote:
~~ctb is bad thats why~~ rejected, it's my style

no changes

Neto

Beatmap Nominator

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Neto 2017-04-23T07:02:57+00:00

"it's just that the map can be improved"
Considering the stuff that get pass qualify this criteria is really subjective. The fact is that BNs didn't nominate simply because they didn't want to. That's how it goes.

Btw Meep, any news of this getting loved, I'm also tired of the wait o.o

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-04-25T17:26:34+00:00

Net0 wrote:
"it's just that the map can be improved"
Considering the stuff that get pass qualify this criteria is really subjective. The fact is that BNs didn't nominate simply because they didn't want to. That's how it goes.

Btw Meep, any news of this getting loved, I'm also tired of the wait o.o

nop lol

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-05-26T12:30:18+00:00

loved d

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2017-05-26T15:58:47+00:00

Really dislike people who give up on ranking things and push it to loved lol

Super disappointing really :/

619

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619 2017-05-26T23:53:01+00:00

O gratz Meep!
sorry i forgot remap my diff xd

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-05-29T06:21:54+00:00

I almost wanted to pass on the map, but then I saw your slider art on Insane decided it was worth trying

.

Insane

00:10:465 (3,1) - This doesn't flow that nicely imo. Try Ctrl+G'ing 1, and also Ctrl+G'ing 2. I think the flow still works really well, and now accounts for slider 3 too.
00:14:886 (2,4) - just stack 4 with 2? The overlap doesn't look nice when there isn't another similar overlap to create a visual pattern with.
00:16:781 (6,7,1) - Emphasis is a bit misplaced between 6>7>1. Put more on 7>1 and less on 6>7 imo
00:19:623 (1,2,3,4) - Take 1+3 and copy/paste to get a better coordinate for 4.

~

00:20:254 (5) - I think two 1/2 sliders will work better.. don't neglect 00:20:728 -

00:22:781 (3,2) - the overlap looks pretty bad imo... You have a lot of room at the bottom of the screen to work with., use that area instead of an overlap? It keeps the map less congested.
00:30:675 (3,4) - It was quite hard to see this circle. I would just position it somewhere easy to see since you use overlaps later already so the full overlap here seems a bit unnecessary. The position of 4 is fine, maybe move slider 3 elsewhere to avoid the overlap instead of trying to move 4.

Wait im dumb i just realized this is Loved. okay whatever cya looool ;w; at least i only spent 2 minutes writing this

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

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Xinnoh 2017-05-29T06:30:53+00:00

there's nothing stopping you from helping it get ranked

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-05-29T06:43:36+00:00

f
upon advice from triangle god, i will keep this in loved and move on c:

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-Kazuto

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-Kazuto 2017-05-29T06:48:42+00:00

Maru is my waifu

PatZar

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PatZar 2017-05-29T10:59:26+00:00

it's better you to play the VN too
momo's route is masterpieces

unko

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Joined March 2014

unko 2017-05-31T19:32:15+00:00

how is this even loved? i tought u needed 100sp

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2017-06-01T01:25:02+00:00

every mod gives +1 or +2 sp, they add up

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2018-03-21T05:54:02+00:00

3 days later
im booting this out of loved
lets go for rank bois

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