1. Reflection of Disruption (2,07 stars, 426 notes)

Wishmaker980 wrote:

Hello!For M4M Request~

General

Lol why is the OD 6,its only 2 stars xD,you might wanna put it at 5

Reflection of Disruption

02:06:127 (2) - Shorten this slider so it ends on 02:06:589
02:07:051 (3) - Then extend this slider so that it starts on 02:06:820 instead,try it out! I kinda want to keep following this rhythm, but I can see what you mean
02:12:820 (3,1) - This two looks quite compact,increase the distance a little
03:17:435 (2) - Stack this with 03:19:051 (3) -
03:57:357 (3) - Make this slider start on 03:57:141 <- The sound starts there The violin does, correct, but the piano does not
04:31:511 (2) - Fix blanket with 04:30:588 (1) - slider tail
04:38:204 - This empty space here is so awkward lol,you might wanna add stuffs here Too little breakt time, and there is nothing you can just start it on, I prefer waiting for the new stanza
05:19:049 (3) - I think this can be blanketed more nicely with 05:19:511 (1) -
05:41:204 (3) - Check Distance snap since its like a normal difficulty. Insane/Extra difficulty=What is Distance snap? XD It's only a 0.06 change, which is almost nothing
06:20:204 (2) - I recommend you replace this slider with a note on 06:20:204 and a slider on 06:20:434 as there is a sound on 06:20:434,listen to 50% speed,there is like a low dragging sound there,would be good for a slider

Nice and clean map~Still surprised that there would be a 2 stars difficulty for this song xD

That's all from me!Good luck with your map!

TurtleStuffs wrote:

Awesome map, man! This map is crazily good with the rhythm and slider forms! This definitely deserves ranked! These are my picks for changes but you don't have to change anything if you wish, the map is already great!

02:05:666 (1,2,3) - Maybe add (1) to the previous combo and put (2,3) into a new combo I guess you mean (2,3) together right? If so, I applied that
03:13:974 (1) - Move this more to the center/move it closer to the other slider (since that one is more centered) I need to think about Distance here as well
03:33:820 (3,1) - Put these into a new combo (it fits the music more) I prefer to be consistent with NCs in lower diffs
(Only if you want to, not that necessary) 03:41:204 (3,1) - Put these in a new combo ^^
03:45:589 (1) - 03:50:896 (1) The part between the two objects is empty which seems weird. If you don't fill it with objects then I suggest removing all objects until 04:01:973 (1) which makes the break longer and more fitting to the music Correct, but due to spinner recovery I need to wait multiple beats, and then starting at an offbeat piano feels even more weird then this large gap
04:04:742 (3,1) - If you listen closely, the 2nd slider (it's start) doesn't fit to the music well. I wouldn't know how to fix that but try removing/ modifying the first slider I honestly can't hear the rhythm properly at all, it's too soft >_> Therefore I want to keep the rhythm as simple as possible
04:36:242 (1,1) - The break in between the two objects seems unnecessary and odd as well. This time I would suggest just filling it up with objects. This one is actually the shortest break allowed (if you see this as an easy), which is 4 beats (but BPM is doubled, so 8 beats recovery)
04:52:280 (3,4) - Here put the two into a new combo
05:26:434 (3,1) - Put these two into a new combo
05:34:280 (1) - Add this to the previous combo It's fine, as it's consistent
05:46:280 (3,4) - Put these in a new combo
05:48:588 (3,1) - Put these in a new combo (Here (1) doesn't really belong to the other notes in it's combo/05:49:050 (1,2,3) don't fit together)
05:52:973 (1,1) - Like before, the break between these two objects seems unnecessary and odd. Add objects in here to fill the gap And again this break is required
Optional: Instead of 06:22:280 (1) you could add in a spinner

I really had fun modding this, it was a great map! Continue making maps like this and your maps will be known everywhere, I mean it! Keep the great maps up!

1. 02:59:204 (1) - this is the only slider i've noticed that didn't really look too good (a little unaesthetically pleasing). could have more curves and turns to it. it feels a little long like it is.
2. 03:47:434 - probably intended, but this long pause feels like there could be something there. or maybe you could put an actual break time? (it's probably too short for one but it would feel better)
3. 03:57:127 (3) - something like this?. the (3) probably feels too close to the (2) but most of these sliders follow the violon, so it would feel better?
   And also towards this part, it would be cool if all the sliders and notes would follow the violon since it's like the strongest noise. because something like 04:04:280 (2,3,1) - this doesn't really make all that sense to me.
4. 04:38:204 - another long pause, idk if that was intended or not but i just don't think it feels right ;w; and maybe the spinner at 04:36:242 (1) - could be replaced with some notes or something, it would follow the song better rather than having a random pause.

klonoa wrote:

Just passing by, no kudosu necessary

1. 02:59:204 (1) - this is the only slider i've noticed that didn't really look too good (a little unaesthetically pleasing). could have more curves and turns to it. it feels a little long like it is.
2. 03:47:434 - probably intended, but this long pause feels like there could be something there. or maybe you could put an actual break time? (it's probably too short for one but it would feel better) Yup, intended
3. 03:57:127 (3) - something like this?. the (3) probably feels too close to the (2) but most of these sliders follow the violon, so it would feel better? I follow piano
   And also towards this part, it would be cool if all the sliders and notes would follow the violon since it's like the strongest noise. because something like 04:04:280 (2,3,1) - this doesn't really make all that sense to me.
4. 04:38:204 - another long pause, idk if that was intended or not but i just don't think it feels right ;w; and maybe the spinner at 04:36:242 (1) - could be replaced with some notes or something, it would follow the song better rather than having a random pause.

edit: made it more readable

1. Song Folder: Your BG is well over a MB in size and taking up much more space in the beatmap folder than it needs to. Here's a space-saving version with minimal loss in quality - boop
2. Song Setup: No issues
3. Metadata: No issues
4. Timing: For the purposes of this difficulty, I'd like to propose making the timing section at 04:12:702 - ~74BPM so that you can snap 04:12:702 (1) slider end to the red tick for the piano sound there. The current slider ending right before the piano on a much less noticeable guitar sound feels really weird, and since you're not using Tick Rate 2, the piano sound on/near the red tick in this slider has no audio feedback, so feels much less strange "unsnapped" in this sense. This might be incorrect/unrankable/impossible in theory or practice of course, so get some more opinions on what the best course of action is here
5. Hitsounds: Both soft sliderwhistles are unused (unless you have some sampleset changes using the sidebar instead of inherited points that I missed) so unless you're planning to do something with them (or you already are) they can be removed
6. AImod: No issues

1. 00:06:820 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - So this is interesting and all but is 12 seconds of pmuch continuous spinning the best way to start out in a Normal diff marathon? This is highly likely to tire out players before the map has even begun. Maybe it's a bit conservative, but I think 3 circles on downbeats followed by the long spinner 00:10:513 (1) - would be more appropriate here. If you end that spinner at 00:13:513 - to give ample recover time, and then use the same 3 circles on downbeats + spinner at 00:17:897 (1) which you can then extend to it's full length at 00:20:897 - you could make this much more fitting to the intended difficulty
2. 01:21:820 (3,1) - (1) would be better off blanketing the slider body of (3) rather than the tail, since the repeat on (1) is rather close to that slider - Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813649
3. 01:45:358 (3,4) - Are these intended to be ever so slightly bent/curved? I think parallel horizontal sliders would look neater, especially since at the moment the two are very close to overlapping
4. 01:49:051 (3,4) - Blanket would be neater here with a smooth curve like 01:49:974 (4) -, no? Red anchor point creates a roughness that looks a little messy
5. 02:00:127 (1) - Could increase the curve on this slightly to bring the body away from 01:58:281 - head
6. 02:06:127 (2) - Feels weird for the strong sound on the tail to not be clickable, I feel like splitting this into 2/1 slider + circle would play better considering the sound this slider is mapping ends (save for the background guitar) on the downbeat anyway
7. 02:12:820 (3,1) - I don't dislike the wiggle on this slider, even if my nazi side is screaming for a smooth curve to blanket, but could you separate the two objects a tiny bit more? The wiggle brings their borders rather close to overlapping
8. 02:17:666 (2) - Same as 01:49:051 (3,4)
9. 02:25:051 (2,1) - (1) can be curved slightly less for a more even sliderbody blanket. Same at 02:27:820 (1,2) - since I assume you copy/paste/flipped these
10. 02:42:589 (1,2) - Think the lengths of these two should be swapped around to emphasise the strong guitar sound with whistle at 02:43:512
11. 02:51:128 (2,3) - This flow change is quite awkward considering how smoothly the previous patterns have flowed. Ctrl+G 02:51:820 (3) would flow much better but then you have to find some way to rework this back into your next patterns, since 02:52:974 (4) will be at the "wrong end" in its current position... Keeping 02:49:974 (1,2,2) in their current positions, how about something like this- https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813849 ? (I dropped AR to show the pattern better, repeat of (3) is stacked with tail of 02:49:974 (1) -)
12. 02:55:051 (3,1) - A little more distance between these two in terms of the border separation would look neater and more consistent considering the separation between 02:55:512 (1,2)
13. 03:12:127 (1) - Might overlap with some skinned HP bars and the slider tail is technically outside the grid. I think 03:11:666 (5,1) - could be moved down and to the right slightly to avoid this
14. 03:41:666 (1,3) - Would ideally want these to be moved up slightly to form a more even blanket with the body of 03:42:127 (2) - Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813913
15. 04:07:973 (2) - This feels a little strange to me as it both attempts to follow an awkward piano rhythm, and prevents the downbeat from being clickable. Shortening this to a 1/1 repeat slider and adding a circle where the tail was is a better simplification of this imo, and also brings the stronger piano sound at 04:08:896 out of the sliderbody
16. 04:18:906 (1) - Personally I would try and speed this slider up a tiny bit - I get that BPM and thus SV are decreasing throughout so it's not a huge readability issue, but the difference between the speeds of this and previous sliders is quite large, giving more possibility to break here. Increasing SV slightly (1.25x maybe) would help balance this out. Additionally, regaining control over the rhythm becomes quite difficult considering the strong downbeat is a sliderend currently. Ending the slider at 04:22:666 and then adding a circle on the downbeat would play better I think
17. 04:36:127 (1) - Similar situation as above, ending a slider on the downbeat causes confusion as to where the player "is" in the measure. Strong objects being clickable helps to maintain the internal metronome that makes reading upcoming patterns much easier. Ending the slider 1 beat back at 04:37:742 - and adding a circle on the downbeat would be better here
18. 04:48:588 (3,1) - Same as 01:21:820 (3,1)
19. 05:08:434 (1) - Tail can be brought slightly more to the right to form a more even blanket around the tail of 05:07:973 (4) - [304,240] or so works well
20. 05:34:280 (1,2,3) - Same as 03:41:666 (1,3)
21. 05:37:973 (1,2) - (2) can probably be curved a little more for a better sliderbody blanket
22. 05:52:973 (1) - How about shortening this spinner slightly so you can map the following guitar sounds? I know you want to leave some pause, but it feels weird to skip an entire iteration and start at 05:58:280 (1) - with an identical rhythm
23. 06:01:973 (1) - I'd avoid overlapping the sliderbody to this extent as it can seriously compromise readability. Move the tail anchor out to the left please
24. 06:18:588 (1) - ^

JBHyperion wrote:

Mod by PM request

General Comments:

1. Song Folder: Your BG is well over a MB in size and taking up much more space in the beatmap folder than it needs to. Here's a space-saving version with minimal loss in quality - boop
2. Song Setup: No issues
3. Metadata: No issues
4. Timing: For the purposes of this difficulty, I'd like to propose making the timing section at 04:12:702 - ~74BPM so that you can snap 04:12:702 (1) slider end to the red tick for the piano sound there. The current slider ending right before the piano on a much less noticeable guitar sound feels really weird, and since you're not using Tick Rate 2, the piano sound on/near the red tick in this slider has no audio feedback, so feels much less strange "unsnapped" in this sense. This might be incorrect/unrankable/impossible in theory or practice of course, so get some more opinions on what the best course of action is here
5. Hitsounds: Both soft sliderwhistles are unused 00:58:281 (1) - This uses both, by having soft additions, to not interfere with the sliderticks (unless you have some sampleset changes using the sidebar instead of inherited points that I missed) so unless you're planning to do something with them (or you already are) they can be removed
6. AImod: No issues

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Reflection of Disruption
Diff plays well and is very clean already, prepare for nitpicky aesthetics (^:

1. 00:06:820 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - So this is interesting and all but is 12 seconds of pmuch continuous spinning the best way to start out in a Normal diff marathon? This is highly likely to tire out players before the map has even begun. Maybe it's a bit conservative, but I think 3 circles on downbeats followed by the long spinner 00:10:513 (1) - would be more appropriate here. If you end that spinner at 00:13:513 - to give ample recover time, and then use the same 3 circles on downbeats + spinner at 00:17:897 (1) which you can then extend to it's full length at 00:20:897 - you could make this much more fitting to the intended difficulty Did all but the last, due to recovery
2. 01:21:820 (3,1) - (1) would be better off blanketing the slider body of (3) rather than the tail, since the repeat on (1) is rather close to that slider - Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813649
3. 01:45:358 (3,4) - Are these intended to be ever so slightly bent/curved? I think parallel horizontal sliders would look neater, especially since at the moment the two are very close to overlapping
4. 01:49:051 (3,4) - Blanket would be neater here with a smooth curve like 01:49:974 (4) -, no? Red anchor point creates a roughness that looks a little messy
5. 02:00:127 (1) - Could increase the curve on this slightly to bring the body away from 01:58:281 - head
6. 02:06:127 (2) - Feels weird for the strong sound on the tail to not be clickable, I feel like splitting this into 2/1 slider + circle would play better considering the sound this slider is mapping ends (save for the background guitar) on the downbeat anyway
7. 02:12:820 (3,1) - I don't dislike the wiggle on this slider, even if my nazi side is screaming for a smooth curve to blanket, but could you separate the two objects a tiny bit more? The wiggle brings their borders rather close to overlapping
8. 02:17:666 (2) - Same as 01:49:051 (3,4)
9. 02:25:051 (2,1) - (1) can be curved slightly less for a more even sliderbody blanket. Same at 02:27:820 (1,2) - since I assume you copy/paste/flipped these
10. 02:42:589 (1,2) - Think the lengths of these two should be swapped around to emphasise the strong guitar sound with whistle at 02:43:512 I'm following the strong sounds here (on which I used whistles)
11. 02:51:128 (2,3) - This flow change is quite awkward considering how smoothly the previous patterns have flowed. Ctrl+G 02:51:820 (3) would flow much better but then you have to find some way to rework this back into your next patterns, since 02:52:974 (4) will be at the "wrong end" in its current position... Keeping 02:49:974 (1,2,2) in their current positions, how about something like this- https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813849 ? (I dropped AR to show the pattern better, repeat of (3) is stacked with tail of 02:49:974 (1) -)
12. 02:55:051 (3,1) - A little more distance between these two in terms of the border separation would look neater and more consistent considering the separation between 02:55:512 (1,2)
13. 03:12:127 (1) - Might overlap with some skinned HP bars and the slider tail is technically outside the grid. I think 03:11:666 (5,1) - could be moved down and to the right slightly to avoid this
14. 03:41:666 (1,3) - Would ideally want these to be moved up slightly to form a more even blanket with the body of 03:42:127 (2) - Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4813913
15. 04:07:973 (2) - This feels a little strange to me as it both attempts to follow an awkward piano rhythm, and prevents the downbeat from being clickable. Shortening this to a 1/1 repeat slider and adding a circle where the tail was is a better simplification of this imo, and also brings the stronger piano sound at 04:08:896 out of the sliderbody
16. 04:18:906 (1) - Personally I would try and speed this slider up a tiny bit - I get that BPM and thus SV are decreasing throughout so it's not a huge readability issue, but the difference between the speeds of this and previous sliders is quite large, giving more possibility to break here. Increasing SV slightly (1.25x maybe) would help balance this out. Additionally, regaining control over the rhythm becomes quite difficult considering the strong downbeat is a sliderend currently. Ending the slider at 04:22:666 and then adding a circle on the downbeat would play better I think
17. 04:36:127 (1) - Similar situation as above, ending a slider on the downbeat causes confusion as to where the player "is" in the measure. Strong objects being clickable helps to maintain the internal metronome that makes reading upcoming patterns much easier. Ending the slider 1 beat back at 04:37:742 - and adding a circle on the downbeat would be better here
18. 04:48:588 (3,1) - Same as 01:21:820 (3,1)
19. 05:08:434 (1) - Tail can be brought slightly more to the right to form a more even blanket around the tail of 05:07:973 (4) - [304,240] or so works well
20. 05:34:280 (1,2,3) - Same as 03:41:666 (1,3)
21. 05:37:973 (1,2) - (2) can probably be curved a little more for a better sliderbody blanket
22. 05:52:973 (1) - How about shortening this spinner slightly so you can map the following guitar sounds? I know you want to leave some pause, but it feels weird to skip an entire iteration and start at 05:58:280 (1) - with an identical rhythm
23. 06:01:973 (1) - I'd avoid overlapping the sliderbody to this extent as it can seriously compromise readability. Move the tail anchor out to the left please
24. 06:18:588 (1) - ^ Intended actually xD

This is all from me. If you have any questions or want to discuss things further, please don't hesitate to get back to me and I'll see what I can do to help.

Good luck! (:

1. 01:33:589 (2,1) - tail of (2) to [296,92] and rotate (1) 1 degree anticlockwise, angle is currently a little too sharp
2. 01:49:051 (3) - Middle grey node to [202,94], this is quite close to an overlap
3. 02:00:127 (1) - ^ [291,80]
4. 02:01:974 (1) - Rotate tail 3 degrees anticlockwise
5. 02:45:358 (1) - Sliderbody/head whistle here? You have two in quick succession at 02:42:589 (1,2) - but no others which sounds a little odd to me
6. 02:49:974 (1,2,3,4) - Couple of clunky blankets and a slightly off-stack here - try this code instead:

219,143,171128,2,0,P|247:154|266:176,2,60,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,146,171820,2,0,P|162:91|215:67,2,120
149,224,172974,2,0,P|113:218|90:202,2,60,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

1. 03:08:435 (1) - Head to [202,255] for a more even blanket with 03:07:974 (5) -
2. 03:28:743 (1) - Would prefer if this wasn't so far up in the corner as it might overlap some skinned score counters. 03:29:435 (2,3) - can be moved down slightly as well if you need to make room
3. 04:58:973 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing an an uneven blanket, can fix both by moving the head of (1) to [310,182] and then stacking the tail with 05:01:050 (3) after moving it right a couple of pixels, since 05:00:357 (2,3) is also a little larger than necessary
4. 05:07:511 (3) - Middle node to [400,66], tail to [392,110] for more fitting blanket and even spacing
5. 05:38:896 (2) - Middle node to [54,78]

JBHyperion wrote:

Recheck, mostly just fixing a few blankets and slider shapes:

1. 01:33:589 (2,1) - tail of (2) to [296,92] and rotate (1) 1 degree anticlockwise, angle is currently a little too sharp
2. 01:49:051 (3) - Middle grey node to [202,94], this is quite close to an overlap
3. 02:00:127 (1) - ^ [291,80]
4. 02:01:974 (1) - Rotate tail 3 degrees anticlockwise
5. 02:45:358 (1) - Sliderbody/head whistle here? You have two in quick succession at 02:42:589 (1,2) - but no others which sounds a little odd to me Listen to the music, there are 2 whistle sounds at those 2 whistles
6. 02:49:974 (1,2,3,4) - Couple of clunky blankets and a slightly off-stack here - try this code instead:

SPOILER

219,143,171128,2,0,P|247:154|266:176,2,60,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,146,171820,2,0,P|162:91|215:67,2,120
149,224,172974,2,0,P|113:218|90:202,2,60,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

1. 03:08:435 (1) - Head to [202,255] for a more even blanket with 03:07:974 (5) -
2. 03:28:743 (1) - Would prefer if this wasn't so far up in the corner as it might overlap some skinned score counters. 03:29:435 (2,3) - can be moved down slightly as well if you need to make room
3. 04:58:973 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing an an uneven blanket, can fix both by moving the head of (1) to [310,182] and then stacking the tail with 05:01:050 (3) after moving it right a couple of pixels, since 05:00:357 (2,3) is also a little larger than necessary
4. 05:07:511 (3) - Middle node to [400,66], tail to [392,110] for more fitting blanket and even spacing
5. 05:38:896 (2) - Middle node to [54,78]

That should be everything, call me back.

Bara- wrote:

1. There are no breaks. You are mapping this diff for newbies, right? They can't handle 5 minutes full of playing, they need breaks to rest. I'd recommend you to make this a EN spread, with some breaks. The map is too hard for absolute newbies

1. 02:00:589 - Green lines here can be removed since you have a break here now until 02:07:512 -
2. 04:16:408 (1,1) - (2) can be curved more for a better blanket - tail node to [400,100] looks better
3. 04:16:408 (1,1) - Since you're including some more breaks, might be worth removing 04:16:408 (1,1) - both to give a break right before the intense section, and also since these really low SVs might cause playability issues for intended audience. I get the the song is slowing down, but since it's also becoming much quieter, these can be hard to follow
4. 04:23:204 - If you do the above, remember to add a circle back in here, since this is currently a sliderend

1. Looks fine.

1. 00:06:590 (1,1,1) - I know it's the beginning so you want to make the pattern more easier to be read, but having no movement at all feels quite plain tbh. Since they have strong instruments landing on them, I would try to make a triangular pattern with these.
2. 00:15:820 (1,1) - For these, I would make them into either a vertical straight line or a horizontal one.
3. 00:43:051 (4) - IMO I feel the tail of this slider(downbeat) should be clickable as the vocals and the instrument landing on it is quite strong to be skipped over. Bringing 00:42:128 (2,3) - in this slider's place and instead moving the slider infront would be better to emphasize on that.(Don't forget to move the finish to (3) f you are applying this)
4. 05:21:127 - In the previous kiai you didn't miss this note, perhaps add a circle here as the kiai here is slightly more intense?
5. 05:37:973 (1,2) - I believe these should be like 05:23:203 (1,2,1,2) - , due to the similar vocal syllabus and instruments; they are just too strong to be ignored. Doing this only makes it feel like the vocals here aren't too strong over the previous rhythms.
6. 05:45:819 (2) - Again, due to the rhythm being similar like 03:37:974 (1,2,1,2) - , beginners might get thrown off by this. Although the note itself isn't too strong, I would recommend consistency in rhythm, to prevent confusion.
7. 06:00:127 (1) - A finish should be still present on the head of this slider as the cymbal is still heard in the background.

1. I don't know why, but the AIMod shows that 04:12:702 (1) - 's tail isn't snapped. I tried several times and it didn't work, maybe check with a QAT to make sure that this doesn't affect the ranking.
2. 05:04:742 (1) - Tbh I don't think a finish fits well here as there's no clear cymbal in the background. I would recommend you to remove it.
3. 05:24:126 (1) - Would be good if you were to remove the NC here to keep consistent with the other similar rhythms.
4. 05:37:973 (1,2,3,4) - I believe the hitsounding on this rhythm should be the same as 05:23:203 (1,2,1,2) - as they are of the same synth and strength. Drum finishes here feels way too damp and it doesn't feel like the cymbals in the background.

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

Re-check.

1. I don't know why, but the AIMod shows that 04:12:702 (1) - 's tail isn't snapped. I tried several times and it didn't work, maybe check with a QAT to make sure that this doesn't affect the ranking. The red timing point was on xxx109 offset, while it should have been at xxx112 (slider's end) so I changed this offset and it works fine
2. 05:04:742 (1) - Tbh I don't think a finish fits well here as there's no clear cymbal in the background. I would recommend you to remove it.
3. 05:24:126 (1) - Would be good if you were to remove the NC here to keep consistent with the other similar rhythms.
4. 05:37:973 (1,2,3,4) - I believe the hitsounding on this rhythm should be the same as 05:23:203 (1,2,1,2) - as they are of the same synth and strength. Drum finishes here feels way too damp and it doesn't feel like the cymbals in the background.

Call me back once more.

Bara- wrote:

Yaay #2

JBHyperion wrote:

Changing uninherited points requires a rebubble in any case - not that it really matters since I can do that now lol #2

1. Firstly, I feel unsure where the soft-sliderwhistle2 and soft-sliderwhistle are being used. Would you mind providing some examples when you use those? Pretty beginner at this hitnormal + hitwhistle technique.
2. Slider borders must never overlap the slider-body so tightly due players might the confuse of the slider-path while playing it. Some of these aren't acceptable to my standard because beginner players are more used to play on linear motion that do not wiggle as these ones do: 01:58:281 (1) - 03:15:819 (1) - 04:36:127 (1) - 04:53:665 (1) - 06:18:588 (1) -
3. In the other hand, the tags seems pretty misleading to the actual song. I've researched the song and I just found three relevant tags: <Version 0>, 新曲 and Shinkyoku. Could you tell me what Reflect Beat means in this context? Perhaps it would make sense with the way you named the difficulty; but, does it actually fit with the song/theme/artist fields? The same goes to New Song and the parenthesis among (新曲) and (Shinkyoku).
4. Is the HP 4 intentional? The way I see it, it feels rather low compared with the density of the objects managed on the overall difficulty. How about if we increase it to 5 correspondingly to the drain Normal are supposed to use?
5. The opposite issue occurs with the AR. Isn't it a bit high according to how normal are supposed to be? I think we should think about how new players will perceive this difficulty with such as a high AR when the patterning in general. Why don't we lower it till 6 or 5.5 to improve the readability of the objects in the entire diff? I do believe you set it ith a purpose, but I suggest we focus on a lower AR for a better approaching of the objects.

1. 00:17:897 (1) - This spinner plays good but it is somehow misleading the actual sound which started here 00:17:897 - I''m not sure it's a good idea to end it here 00:19:513 - when the wave sound goes until here 00:20:897 - . What about if we end it here 00:20:436 - to cover half part of it and avoid creating awkward hitsound emphasis? Let me know what you think!
2. 00:56:435 (1) - I'd look like if I were nitpicking the map but this slider-shape could look visually better. What if you move the last grey node to 156|280 to fix this?
3. I really feel that the default soft-sliderslide over the section which the song gets quieter is somewhat noisy and doesn't fit well in the segment. I think adding an empty soft-sliderslide would match nicely among the usage of sliders over this part.
4. 01:52:051 (2) - Rhythmically talking, this slider snapped to 2/1 doesn't highlight properly the beats that the song offers in this section. Hence, it ends creating a flat and addled rhythm. What about splitting the slider up into a slider and a note to cover smoothly the beats here? I do believe this would emphasize better the pattern creating a more comfortable rhythm to play.
5. There's currently a break between these two sections 02:00:127 - 02:07:512 - which creates an awkward drain for players. The same happens here 04:37:973 - 04:45:357 - The way I see things, they feel forced and no-intuitive due the breaks don't fit when the song actually supports mapping those parts. whether I think it's good to have breaks, these ones feel rather random. What do you think?
6. 04:01:511 (3) - 04:04:280 (2) - I'm not sure that is a good idea to use those circles when you were following the piano waves at the beginning. Therefore, I think it would be way better if you removed them to simply the rhythm and keep consistency with the patterning built just before.
7. 04:05:665 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm sorry but I can't agree with the pattern you chose to map here. This patterning is off in terms on emphasis and rhythm due it's not following neither the piano tiles-sound nor the waves, hence it ends feeling a tedious to play despite it's mapped to 1/1 beats. What about if we try up this rhythm instead? In this way, piano is followed up until it comes to the timing change of the song and it might flow better with the overall hitsound usage. Try it!
   ^

   
8. 04:16:408 (1) - This is only a suggestion bur replacing this with a spinner would make a more epic pattern than the actual circle. The problem is that leaving it with just one circle, it misleads the instruments that comes up here that should have an emphasis due the acute sound it produces. Therefore, I do believe a spinner would definitely cover better this sound.
9. 05:08:434 (1) - vs 03:15:819 (1) - While I know both patterns represent different purposes in the section they belong, it would be way better if this slider 05:08:434 (1) - was extended to highlight better the drums here as well as you did with the other pattern. Or How about if it were like this?
   ^

   
10. 05:23:203 (1,2,3) - The blanket here could be better. /w\ Without messing the DS, you could make 05:23:203 (1) - more curve so the approach circle of the next objects cover nicely the sliderborder of this slider making a neater pattern for playing and watching. Consider doing the same here 03:30:589 (1,2,3) - 05:37:973 (1,2,3) -
11. Despite the kiai is copied and pasted on the second segment, there few differences that you should watch out. For example, let's compare 05:28:741 (1,2) - vs 03:36:127 (1,2) - . Both sections feel really similar but the vocals from both are not. In addition, if you where following vocals here 03:36:127 (1) - I think it would be nice if you do the same here 05:28:741 (1) - by reducing it till here 05:28:741 (1) - and place this slider 05:29:665 (2) - here 05:29:434 - to follow the respectively vocals-waves change. It should look like this:
    
    ^

    
    
    
    Do not forget to remove the green lines in case you make this change.
12. 06:22:280 (1) - The drum additions feel super forced here. What don't we use it as auto as you did with the overall long sliders?

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Hi! Modding upon your request. This should've made two months ago but things didn't go quite according to plan.

Currently there are many issues that I'd like to discuss with you that really triggers me to rank this map. Let's start:

1. Firstly, I feel unsure where the soft-sliderwhistle2 and soft-sliderwhistle are being used. Would you mind providing some examples when you use those? Pretty beginner at this hitnormal + hitwhistle technique. Look at 00:56:435 (1) - for example. Soft addition, and both set 1 and 2 (for slidertickhitsounding)
2. Slider borders must never overlap the slider-body so tightly due players might the confuse of the slider-path while playing it. Some of these aren't acceptable to my standard because beginner players are more used to play on linear motion that do not wiggle as these ones do: 01:58:281 (1) - 03:15:819 (1) - 04:36:127 (1) - This one is no wiggle, it's a loop with a visible hole, so there are no problems in its readability04:53:665 (1) - I've talked about this with Loctav, and he said it is fine (someone said it wasn't, he said it was fine06:18:588 (1) -
3. In the other hand, the tags seems pretty misleading to the actual song. I've researched the song and I just found three relevant tags: <Version 0>, 新曲 and Shinkyoku. Could you tell me what Reflect Beat means in this context? Perhaps it would make sense with the way you named the difficulty; but, does it actually fit with the song/theme/artist fields? The same goes to New Song and the parenthesis among (新曲) and (Shinkyoku). refer to my previos post
4. Is the HP 4 intentional? The way I see it, it feels rather low compared with the density of the objects managed on the overall difficulty. How about if we increase it to 5 correspondingly to the drain Normal are supposed to use? Since there are breaks, I 've set it to 5
5. The opposite issue occurs with the AR. Isn't it a bit high according to how normal are supposed to be? I think we should think about how new players will perceive this difficulty with such as a high AR when the patterning in general. Why don't we lower it till 6 or 5.5 to improve the readability of the objects in the entire diff? I do believe you set it ith a purpose, but I suggest we focus on a lower AR for a better approaching of the objects.

That must be all that worries me to push this map. Hope they can be fixed in accordance to the standards to rank maps nowadays.

Nonetheless, I have some suggestions regarding rhythms and notes-placing which could improve the quality of the map from my own perspective as a modder. Let's see:

1. 00:17:897 (1) - This spinner plays good but it is somehow misleading the actual sound which started here 00:17:897 - I''m not sure it's a good idea to end it here 00:19:513 - when the wave sound goes until here 00:20:897 - . What about if we end it here 00:20:436 - to cover half part of it and avoid creating awkward hitsound emphasis? Let me know what you think! The wavesound starts at the downbeat the spinner ends on, and it ends on the next downbeat. I think it's better to have it in its current state, as it'll be some sort of gap (the wave)
2. 00:56:435 (1) - I'd look like if I were nitpicking the map but this slider-shape could look visually better. What if you move the last grey node to 156|280 to fix this?
3. I really feel that the default soft-sliderslide over the section which the song gets quieter is somewhat noisy and doesn't fit well in the segment. I think adding an empty soft-sliderslide would match nicely among the usage of sliders over this part. It's to simulate the sounds of the guitars
4. 01:52:051 (2) - Rhythmically talking, this slider snapped to 2/1 doesn't highlight properly the beats that the song offers in this section. Hence, it ends creating a flat and addled rhythm. What about splitting the slider up into a slider and a note to cover smoothly the beats here? I do believe this would emphasize better the pattern creating a more comfortable rhythm to play. It follows the strong violins here
5. There's currently a break between these two sections 02:00:127 - 02:07:512 - which creates an awkward drain for players. The same happens here 04:37:973 - 04:45:357 - The way I see things, they feel forced and no-intuitive due the breaks don't fit when the song actually supports mapping those parts. whether I think it's good to have breaks, these ones feel rather random. What do you think? I want to add a few breaks so the player can rest, as it's only a 2* map. Having a long segemt of over 2 minutes seems too harsh for me, so I think that these breaks work fine in that sense
6. 04:01:511 (3) - 04:04:280 (2) - I'm not sure that is a good idea to use those circles when you were following the piano waves at the beginning. Therefore, I think it would be way better if you removed them to simply the rhythm and keep consistency with the patterning built just before. You do know I'm following the violin in this whole part?
7. 04:05:665 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm sorry but I can't agree with the pattern you chose to map here. This patterning is off in terms on emphasis and rhythm due it's not following neither the piano tiles-sound nor the waves, hence it ends feeling a tedious to play despite it's mapped to 1/1 beats. What about if we try up this rhythm instead? In this way, piano is followed up until it comes to the timing change of the song and it might flow better with the overall hitsound usage. Try it!
   ^

   
   Did something competely different here!
8. 04:16:408 (1) - This is only a suggestion bur replacing this with a spinner would make a more epic pattern than the actual circle. The problem is that leaving it with just one circle, it misleads the instruments that comes up here that should have an emphasis due the acute sound it produces. Therefore, I do believe a spinner would definitely cover better this sound.
9. 05:08:434 (1) - vs 03:15:819 (1) - While I know both patterns represent different purposes in the section they belong, it would be way better if this slider 05:08:434 (1) - was extended to highlight better the drums here as well as you did with the other pattern. Or How about if it were like this?
   ^

   
10. 05:23:203 (1,2,3) - The blanket here could be better. /w\ Without messing the DS, you could make 05:23:203 (1) - more curve so the approach circle of the next objects cover nicely the sliderborder of this slider making a neater pattern for playing and watching. Consider doing the same here 03:30:589 (1,2,3) - 05:37:973 (1,2,3) -
11. Despite the kiai is copied and pasted on the second segment, there few differences that you should watch out. For example, let's compare 05:28:741 (1,2) - vs 03:36:127 (1,2) - . Both sections feel really similar but the vocals from both are not. In addition, if you where following vocals here 03:36:127 (1) - I think it would be nice if you do the same here 05:28:741 (1) - by reducing it till here 05:28:741 (1) - and place this slider 05:29:665 (2) - here 05:29:434 - to follow the respectively vocals-waves change. It should look like this:
    
    ^

    
    
    
    Do not forget to remove the green lines in case you make this change.
12. 06:22:280 (1) - The drum additions feel super forced here. What don't we use it as auto as you did with the overall long sliders?

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Sorry for the formatting and the ugly mod. Call me back once you've replied to the issues properly. I'm still afraid about some things which worries about this map and I hope they can be fixed respectively.

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Holy ...

(looks like it should be ends at 05:29:204 - (+2ms)Oh shit, you're right

Anymore, these two files: soft-sliderwhistle.wav and soft-sliderwhistle2.wav are unused (because you only use S:C1 and S:C3 (...) hitsound timings, not S and S:C2
They are used, 00:56:435 (1) - for example. Soft slider-addition on both C1 and :2
Anyway, it's a good map, hope you get it back soon
Good luck

JBHyperion wrote:

Rip the 2ms unsnap.

The unused hitsound file error was explained in my previous posts - p/5189968 - but there was definitely an SC:2 sampleset here before... Where did SC:3 come from, there are no sampleset 3 files present in the song folder orz. If there is a S:Cx, where there are no samples of number x, it just plays as S, nothing special

Should be an easy fix, so call me when you fixed the issues and we'll get it back.

Tatsuyu wrote:

actually looking through it again, there are a few small changes you could make:

00:24:590 (4,1) - Looks a little off, could curve around it a little tighter: http://puu.sh/pmxJu/2683f2fc67.jpg Such nazi, fixing tho
00:36:128 (1,2) - You could red tick this to curve perfectly into the slider ;w; This is just too nazi to fix (as in, I don'rt even see how it's off)
00:59:204 (2) - The end of this curves a little too far into (1): as seen here: http://puu.sh/pmxDq/bdc2fc1a74.jpg A slight adjustment to the left should fix itNot noticable during gameplay
03:03:820 (4,5) - You could rotate both of these slightly so that (5) curves into 03:04:743 (1) - would look sick Intended
03:57:357 (3,1) - Looks a little better like so: http://puu.sh/pmycU/a78e1a8270.jpg
04:35:204 (2) - A Finish hitsound on the start of this would be nice imo No need for this, nothing in the music makes this sound much more stronger than the rest
06:21:357 (1,1) - Very, VERY slight adjustment to the blanket to make it look a little nicer: http://puu.sh/pmyqH/446351a7f5.jpg

good luck!

Spork Lover wrote:

04:58:973 (5,2) - Isn't this overlap a little scary for a normal player? I often hear about quote on quote "unrankable" overlaps on the reverse arrow but yeah ^^

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Raiden wrote:

Apparition

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AugoEidEs please

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TurtleStuffs wrote:

Oh well, then good luck for ranking Distorted Lovesong, Bara-!