1. Cataclysmic Hypernova - 4Key (6.54 stars, 5891 notes)

FelipeLink wrote:

IRC mod

18:04 Mat: btw
18:04 *Mat is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/870650 Kurokotei - Galaxy Collapse]
18:04 Mat: if you could spare some time for a mod
18:04 Mat: would be great
18:04 FelipeLink: hm
18:04 Mat: ive also changed a few patterns
18:04 Mat: made it alot easier
18:06 FelipeLink: do you really need
18:06 FelipeLink: 01:04:012 (64012|3,64012|0,64012|2) -
18:06 FelipeLink: hands?
18:06 FelipeLink: every hand on those bursts, is kinda annoy me
18:07 Mat: o i sec
18:07 Mat: i need to restart osu it died
18:07 FelipeLink: i see
18:08 Mat: 01:04:012 - here?
18:08 FelipeLink: yeah
18:08 Mat: i can remove that
18:08 FelipeLink: you made like 3 bursts ending with a hand
18:09 Mat: some of them
18:09 Mat: have a crash i didnt notice this one didnt
18:09 Mat: ok removed
18:09 Mat: 01:07:568 - this one does
18:09 FelipeLink: yeah
18:09 Mat: 01:11:124 - removed that too
18:09 FelipeLink: okay
18:09 FelipeLink: lemme check the rest, i'm on 3mins now
18:10 Mat: i removed the other 2 also thanks
18:11 FelipeLink: 04:07:685 (247685|1,247685|3,247685|0) -
18:11 FelipeLink: 04:11:241 (251241|3,251241|0,251241|2) -
18:11 FelipeLink: 04:14:796 (254796|1,254796|0,254796|3) -
18:11 Mat: 04:11:241 (251241|2,251241|0,251241|3) - this one has a crash on it
18:11 Mat: the other 2 i deleted
18:11 FelipeLink: hm, allright
18:12 Mat: btw once ya finished with things you found can you export chat log
18:13 FelipeLink: sure

BilliumMoto wrote:

Suppppppppp

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|1|2|3|4|

01:59:790 (119790|1) - Why not LN here?
02:10:690 (130690|3,130890|0) - Throughout this entire middle section, there are these 1/4 notes that appear sporadically, corresponding to the synth but sometimes the synth can be heard but there isn't any 1/4 note set to it, such as 02:14:990 (134990|0) and the 1/4 after it. Please keep layering consistent. Also I think they'll be better off as jacks at this point.
02:12:890 (132890|3) - This shield can be very annoying, move to 1 or 2 and adjust surrounding notes accordingly
02:22:190 (142190|0,142390|0) - This would probably be better as just [34] in the columns, making the jack, considering how hard the rest of this map is and how relatively easy this middle section is.
02:35:090 (155090|0) - ^
02:55:820 (175820|3,175849|2) - Is this roll a bit fast? If you can't FC it then it needs to be nerfed. IDK though
03:24:903 (204903|0,204903|1,204953|3,204953|2,205003|1,205003|0) - Turn this into a roll
03:43:853 (223853|0) - Add note in 2 to keep your double layering consistent
03:49:853 (229853|0,229878|1,229903|3,229928|2) - Again, if a top tier player like you cannot FC this, it needs to be nerfed.
04:29:907 (269907|0) - This jack came out of nowhere and there's no jacks afterward that follow up on it, so it feels random. Either add more jacks where appropriate in the second following this note or remove this jack.
04:30:685 (270685|1,270685|0) - You missed a possible 1/4 here, maybe put the jack here?
04:31:241 (271241|1) - make 3 notes
04:44:574 (284574|3,284796|1,285018|2) - Fic your pitch relevancy
05:53:068 (353068|0,353091|1,353114|3,353138|2,353161|0) - Don't tell me you can FC this roll, because I know you can't. If you want people to actually have a chance to play your map, nerf this entire roll section.

Other than this, the majority of the hard parts seem well stepped, so good job on that.
Out of curiosity, how did you sync this?

GL wit da map

Sayaka- wrote:

Taiko map uses 1/4 and not 1/8
Also please credit me for the song

Hydria wrote:

Hydria's Very Angry And Disappointed Mod

Permission to write the following as I did given by Mat.

Having to put this in a box to not take up half a forum page

General:
- Up OD to 8.8, last thing we want is stacked misses due to low OD.
- Man, we don't want just anyone passing this map, that gives out free pp, up that HP to 8.5
- Add Sayaka- to tags and description as the song's creator

The actual map itself:
00:00:013 - until 00:28:457 - technically, due to PR, this should follow the same 4 patterns for 32 bars but that's boring, what you have right now is adequate.

00:32:901 - , 00:33:790 - and every other 4/1 throughout the chorus - why not add an extra note (make them hands) for emphasis?

00:49:235 - note missing here

General point: OMG ALL OF YOUR "BURST" PATTERNS ARE FUCKING BORING SPICE THAT SHIT UP MAN it's all just proper jumptrills you can make that shit "jumptrillable" but change it up so it all just don't look the fucking same, [23][14] and [13][24] patterns exist, and they can be used in small amounts, so FUCKING USE THEM

00:57:568 - can add a note to 4

General point #2: SAME GOES FOR THE 1/8TH PATTERNS, SPICE THAT UP, YOU CAN HAVE [1][2][3][4], [2][1][3][4], [1][2][4][3], [2][1][4][3], AND MIRRORED, YOU CAN ALSO SPICE IT UP WITH [1][3][2][4] OR [2][4][1][3] PATTERNS COME ON MAKE THIS INTERESTING

00:59:568 (59568|0,59624|1,59679|2,59735|3,59790|0,59846|1,59901|2,59957|3) - improve

01:07:512 (67512|3,67568|3) - no, if you want to keep the hand, remove the note below, same goes for subsequent patterns
01:25:290 (85290|3,85346|3) - srs no
01:26:179 (86179|0,86235|0) - no stop

01:27:161 (87161|0,87198|1,87235|2,87272|3,87309|0,87346|1,87383|2,87420|3,87457|0,87494|1,87531|2,87568|3) -

01:46:124 (106124|0,106179|2,106179|3,106235|0,106235|1) - SEE YOU DID IT HERE WHY DID YOU NOT DO IT A MIN PREVIOUS

01:51:568 (111568|2,111568|3,111624|1,111624|0,111679|3,111679|2,111790|2,111790|3,111846|0,111846|1,111901|2,111901|3,111957|1,111957|0,112012|2,112012|3) - THESE PATTERNS ARE KILLING ME MAT SORT THEM OUT

01:54:457 (114457|0,114512|1,114568|2,114624|3) - EVEN THIS WHHHHHHHYYYYYY

02:10:690 (130690|3) - ghost note

02:16:490 - note missing here

03:11:853 (191853|0,191903|1,191953|2,192003|3) - dgsipjksdhujksdghusgd

03:18:653 (198653|3,198653|2,198653|0,198853|2,198853|1,198853|3,199053|0,199053|3,199053|1,199253|3,199253|1,199253|2) - considering this is kiai time, having 75BPM hands is VERY EXCITING.

03:47:453 (227453|0,227503|1,227553|3,227603|2,227653|0,227703|1,227753|2,227803|3,227853|1,227903|0,227953|2,228003|3,228053|1,228103|0,228153|3,228203|2,228253|1,228303|0,228353|2,228403|3,228453|1,228503|0,228553|3,228603|2,228653|1,228703|0,228753|2,228803|3,228853|0,228903|1,228953|2,229003|3) - fix this IMMEDIATELY. No one wants to see a 150BPM jumptrill in a 6.5 star file. Not acceptable by any standards.

03:51:790 - err you just kinda forgot notes here

04:03:701 (243701|3,243755|2,243808|1,243862|0) - not even gonna say anything anymore

04:11:185 (251185|0,251241|0) - 04:28:963 (268963|3,269018|3) - 04:29:852 (269852|0,269907|0) - 04:30:741 (270741|3,270796|3) - 04:31:241 (271241|3,271296|3) -

04:57:462 (297462|2,297462|3,297574|0,297574|1,297685|3,297685|2,297796|0,297796|1,297907|3,297907|2,298018|0,298018|1,298129|3,298129|2,298240|1,298240|0,298351|3,298351|2,298462|0,298462|1,298574|3,298574|2,298685|1,298685|0,298796|2,298796|3,298907|0,298907|1,299018|2,299018|3,299129|1,299129|0) - pretty close to the world's slowest jumptrill

05:50:818 (350818|0,350864|1,350911|3,350958|2,351005|0,351052|1,351099|2,351146|3,351193|1,351239|0,351286|2,351333|3,351380|1,351427|0,351474|3,351521|2,351568|1,351614|0,351661|2,351708|3,351755|1,351802|0,351849|3,351896|2,351943|1,351989|0,352036|2,352083|3,352130|0,352177|1,352224|3,352271|2) -

Ending words: Come on Mat, you can do better mapping than this, don't fall into the same delirious pit of "I'm mapping for pp so I'll map everything really comfortably and then people will like my maps" that so many other people have fallen into, you'll never be taken seriously as a good mapper that way. Improve your patterns and contact me afterwards to see if anything else needs improving or if I just need to abandon all hope.

Good luck on the mapset~

Hayabusa wrote:

Hayabusa's Modding suggestions ~

My Mod Changes Here

00:54:901 - Here change it to 14 23 14 23 14 Pattern ~

01:10:901 - Change these jumptrills also to 14 23 14 23 14 pattern ~

01:22:457 (82457|1) - Change this LN to lane 1 ~

01:23:457 (83457|2) - Change this note to lane 4 it feels easier ~

01:26:679 - Change this triple jump trill to 14 23 14 ~

03:21:653 - Change this to 123 123 134 chords ~

03:47:453 - This pattern to me feels alot more comfy ~



03:58:880 - Change these 2 triple chords to 123 234 ~

Good luck on getting this map ranked. il put my stars on this map! Big fan of it!

Hydria wrote:

Hydria's Slightly Less "Angry And Disappointed" Follow-Up Mod

No Kudosu.
Ok most of the problems have been solved now, but you still need to change up patterns like 00:35:346 (35346|3,35346|2,35401|1,35401|0,35457|3,35457|2,35512|1,35512|0,35568|3,35568|2) - which are just littered across the map. People are able to hit [23][14] patterns along with [13][24] patterns as long as they're in a short burst, just like 20 or so in this map are. Sure, a pure jumptrill might be more comfortable, but it's uninteresting after a while. Change a decent chunk of those patterns up and I'll be finally finished here.

FrenzyLi wrote:

Here is the promised response from FrenzyLi!

The only diff you have here that has a long name that I can't exactly remember (4K)

Comment: Nice challenge, but please improve consistency for the sake of ranking!!!! Once you finish the mod I'll likely throw a star ;w; I don't have much to spare lmao.
My2cents: The intro needs pitch-based rearranging. Other parts needs pitch adjustment as well. Couple of jumpstreams need trills needs to have surrounding notes / jumps rearranged. LN should be accompanied by have easier-to-hit two-key jacks. Furthermore, some of the vibro sections are not snapped correctly because some go way over 1/16 yet you use 1/6 or 1/8. I recommend LN for vibros that are just too fast to place notes against. By the way, I only mod key placements here lmao because timing seems about right.

• Pitch relevancy (stream)

1. 00:00:457 (457|1,568|2,679|3,790|1) - Move to 1,2,3,0 - done
   00:00:901 (901|0,1012|1,1124|2,1235|3) - Move to 2,3,0,1 - done
   00:01:346 (1346|2,1457|1,1568|0,1679|1) - Move to 3,0,1,2 - done
2. (^ IF ACCEPTED) From 00:01:790 to 00:03:568 - mirror 00:00:013 to 00:01:790 - done
3. (^ IF ACCEPTED) 00:03:568 (3568|1,3679|2,3790|3,3901|0) - Move to 0,1,2,3 - done
   00:04:012 (4012|1,4124|3,4235|2,4346|1) - Move to 0,3,2,1 - done
   00:04:901 (4901|0,5012|1,5124|2,5235|3) - Move to 0,3,2,1 - done
   00:05:346 (5346|1,5457|0,5568|2,5679|3) - Move to 0,1,2,3 - done
   00:06:235 (6235|0,6346|1,6457|2,6568|3) - Move to 1,0,3,2 - done
   00:06:679 (6679|2,6790|1,6901|0,7012|2) - Move to 1,0,2,3 - done
   
   Pitch relevancy (jumpstream)
4. 00:07:124 (7124|3) - For the jumpstream starting at this point, I hope your jumps can follow the piano pitch which loops back and forth between low-mid-high-mid-low-... while maintaining as much pitch relevancy as possible with the single notes. For example, move this note to 2 if you accepted the previous pattern rearrangement. - not sure
5. 02:05:523 (125523|2) - Move to 1. Side note: 02:31:123 (151123|2) should be ok. - changed
   02:06:190 (126190|3,126390|1) - Move to 0,3. - done
   02:06:590 (126590|0) - Move to 1. - done[/color
6. 06:11:068 (371068|3,371255|1,371443|3,371630|0) - Want to occupy only two columns?
   
   Streamling patterns
7. 00:41:901 (41901|1,42012|0,42124|1,42235|2) - Move to 0,1,2,0 to fit with this baby 00:42:346 (42346|1,42346|2) in reference to 00:35:124- done(35124|2,35124|3,35235|1,35235|0,35346|3,35346|2,35401|0,35401|1,35457|3,35457|2,35512|1,35512|0,35568|3,35568|2)
8. 00:44:124 (44124|2,44124|3,44346|0,44346|1) - Out of curiosity, how about flipping these two jumps? Keep in mind that you want to make the hitsound consistent here as you have claps on the left note of each jump.- done
   (^ IF ACCEPTED) 00:48:679 (48679|3,48679|2,48790|3,48790|2,48901|1,48901|0,49012|0,49012|1,49124|3,49124|2) - reminder of same pattern.- declined
9. 00:46:087 (46087|1,46124|0) - Move to 0,1 maybe? As a 1/6 slow down of the 1/8 pattern of 00:45:790- declined(45790|3,45818|2,45846|0,45874|1,45901|3,45929|2,45957|0,45985|1) and I think it would be more interesting. However, do check below because I think this is a questionable pattern. Sorry mat lmao. - declined
   (^ IF ACCEPTED) 03:31:319 (211319|0,211353|1) - Move to 1,0 because of 03:31:053 - declined(211053|3,211078|2,211103|1,211128|0,211153|3,211178|2,211203|1,211228|0) .
10. 00:46:568 (46568|0,46568|1,46679|3,46679|2) - Move to 13,0,4 - done
11. 00:47:346 (47346|0,47457|2) - Move to 2,1? - declined
12. 00:55:124 (55124|0,55124|3,55235|0,55235|1) - Do you really want to do this? - declined yes
    00:56:901 (56901|3,56901|2,57012|0,57012|2) - And this? - declined yes
    00:57:901 (57901|2,57901|3,58012|2,58124|3,58235|2,58346|2,58346|3) - And this? - changed
    00:59:346 (59346|0,59374|1,59401|2,59429|3,59457|0,59485|1,59512|2,59540|3,59568|0,59624|1,59679|3,59735|2,59790|1,59846|0,59901|2,59957|3,60012|1,60050|0,60087|2,60124|3,60161|0,60198|1,60235|2,60272|3,60309|1,60346|0,60383|2,60420|3,60457|1,60457|0) - And this? 'L_' - declined yes
    01:27:124 (87124|2,87124|3,87161|1,87198|0,87235|3,87272|2,87309|1,87346|0,87383|3,87420|2,87457|1,87494|0,87531|2,87568|3,87596|0,87624|1,87651|2,87679|3,87707|0,87735|1,87762|2,87790|3,87818|0,87846|1,87874|2,87901|3,87929|0,87957|1,87985|2) - And this? '_7' - declined yes
13. 02:19:590 (139590|3,139790|1) - Move to 1,3? - done
14. 02:25:390 (145390|2,145390|3,145590|3) - Exchange the column of LN and the two notes. - done
15. 02:31:123 (151123|2) - How about repatterning it like this -> (Click for image) The jacks are highlighted in LN and note I'm not missing any notes than your original pattern while making both hands easier to hit. You might want to do this to other places as well. Look-- you have done it here 03:07:053 (187053|3) ! More over, for these kind of different patterns, your LN pitch relevancy is a minor issue-- the jack is the major one. So, don't feel bad if the LN here don't go in relation to pitch. - declined
    (^ IF ACCEPTED) 03:02:453 - Here, notice that for these kind of patterns when the LN on column 0 ends, the left hand has to perform in sequence: release 0 press 1, jack 01, jack 01. Mixing a release in there is kind of hard to adjust to in my opinion. - declined
16. 03:04:553 - Try to make the jumpjack (if you call it that way) either symmetrical (03,03 or 12,12) or on the same hand (01,01 or 23,23). Same star rating, easier to hit, considering you have other patterns at are significantly harder to hit like hands.- declined
17. 03:07:053 (187053|2) - Why not put on col 3? - done
18. 03:57:170 (237170|1,237221|0,237273|1) - Want to move to 0,1,0? - declined
    (^ IF ACCEPTED) 03:57:380 (237380|0,237487|1,237487|3,237594|2) - move to 1,02,3. - declined
19. 05:54:943 (354943|0,355036|2,355130|0) - Move to 2,0,2 ? - done
    (^ IF ACCEPTED) 05:56:724 (356724|0,358224|0) - Hmm... these are harder to move away from the end of the LN lol. But at your level of play it should be ok but I still recommend not placing notes 1/2 distance after a LN ends here. - declined
    
    (^ IF ACCEPTED) 06:17:724 - ;w; - declined
    
    
    Incorrect patterns
20. 00:57:568 (57568|0,57624|1,57679|3,57735|2,57790|1,57790|0) - Remove and replace by LN on column 1 from 00:57:568 to 00:57:679 and LN on column 2 from 00:57:679 to 00:57:790. - declined
21. 00:58:457 (58457|0,58494|1,58531|3,58568|2,58605|0,58642|1,58679|3,58679|2) - You're using way less notes tha normal so I just recommend using double LNs here. (Click for image) You may want to move 00:58:346 (58346|2,58346|3) - to 01 and rearrange surrounding notes. - declined
22. 02:11:190 (131190|0,131190|3) - Ghost notes? - done
23. 04:31:907 (271907|0,271907|1,272130|0,272130|1,272352|0,272352|1,272463|0,272463|1,272574|0,272574|1) - You definitely do not need doubles here because the sound is so weak compared to your claps. Nerf this please lol - declined
24. 06:05:724 - There is no reason to use jack here because 06:05:724 (365724|2) is too weak. Should you want to use the jack, I recommend moving this note to 1. If you want to remove the jack, remove 06:05:818 (365818|2) . - changed
25. 06:27:568 (387568|1,387568|2) - I understand that you want to use two keys because the piano are two-key. This part however, is weak so I suggest only using one. You're not doing keysounding on this part are you lmao so you don't need to use two keys. In other sections it should be fine because the piano here is just to weak to hear. Piano doubles after 06:27:568 (387568|2,387568|1) - need not to be modified because only the piano is left. - declined
26. 06:41:630 (401630|3) - Wrong snap, LN ends at 06:45:005 . Listen closely at 25%. - done
    
    LMAO (anything funny to think about)
27. 00:28:457 - ROFLMAO YOU WANNA ADD A LONG NOTE OVER HERE MATTTTTT? <3 - o.O
28. 03:07:053 (187053|3) - I can't hit this but I think you can. ;w; - declined yes i can
29. 03:49:853 - This pattern with shorter length should appear more often than what you hvae on the map iirc. If you want to be consistent, just bang us with this pattern <3 - declined diverse pattern so not repetative
30. 05:13:618 (313618|2,313618|3,313718|2,313818|2) - Autoconvert incoming /me slapped - declined lol wut

Satoshi Kazuki wrote:

M4M as requested..sorry for late(busy with irl stuff)
Col:1,2,3,4

Ur diff name is too long ._. so mod inside

00:14:679 - why not add one note? like this piano one - 00:12:901 (12901|3,12901|2,13346|2,13346|3) -
00:15:124 - ^
00:15:568 - ^
etc - because its intro and build up is needed from 1 to chord to ln to ln+chord if i add note here would be the same for 2 sections
00:45:790 (45790|3,45818|2,45846|0,45874|1,45901|3,45929|2,45957|0,45985|1,46012|3,46050|2,46087|1,46124|0,46161|3,46198|2) - why 1/4?
00:58:901 (58901|3,58957|2,59012|1,59068|0) - ^
01:00:012 (60012|1,60050|0,60087|2,60124|3,60161|0,60198|1,60235|2,60272|3,60309|1,60346|0,60383|2,60420|3) - why dont change pattern to 1,2,3,4(1/8) - this would make the patterns all the same rolls which will be boring i have edited these from many requests to change them from rolls to a more diverse pattern.
01:27:161 (87161|1,87198|0,87309|1,87346|0,87457|1,87494|0) - ctrl + G and i think the pattern will balance to me
03:49:903 (229903|3,229928|2,230003|3,230028|2,230103|3,230128|2,230203|3,230228|2,230303|3,230328|2,230403|3,230428|2,230503|3,230528|2,230603|3,230628|2) - ctrl + G for balance
05:41:349 (341349|0,341396|1,341505|0,341536|1,341630|0,341661|1,341755|0,341786|1) - ^ for balance
05:52:318 (352318|0,352349|1,352443|0,352474|1,352568|0,352599|1,352693|0,352724|1,352818|0,352849|1,352943|0,352974|1) - ^ balance...if u just make pattern like 12,43,12,43 it just make the map bored cause repeated note...try create new pattern [color=#FF8000- same as above i already have alot of 1234 and 4321 pattern so making them all 1234 would be much worse then 12 43 x20 but thanks for the suggestion i will keep inmind for some[/color]

good luck

Jepetski wrote:

fired a star at this map

GL M9


i can also make a bg and a banner for you if you want

Sayaka- wrote:

ok so quick snapping check as requested

fyi, there is no 1/6 in the song, I only used 1/8 and 1/16 retriggers so parts like 03:49:053 - doesn't match the song snapping (although I can understand you used 1/6 there because using 1/8 + 1/16 would be crazy lol)
everything aside of that seems correct, so yeah it's up to you if you want to keep the 1/6s or not, but tbh I'm fine with them

chistoefur wrote:

I was just browsing the o!m graveyard and sadly found this map here D: I really like this map is it going to continue getting updates/go for rank?

Shoegazer wrote:

Nivrad wanted me to look through the chart before a BN check, but I accidentally made a partial mod instead. He told me to post it here so, hope this helps.

SPOILER

[Gradual Intensification of a Horrible Difficulty Name]
00:05:346 - This pattern doesn't make any sense at all given the rhythms in this section - it sticks out like a sore thumb when the three repeats before this make at least a tiny bit of sense compared to the rhythms themselves.
00:14:235 - Same issue with above, he can afford to copy-paste some of the patterns you did in the first few seconds of the chart to this section considering that it's quite minimally layered at the moment. You tend to use a lot of staircases which make absolutely no sense considering that this melody is split into 3-note rhythms.

00:33:568 - Could afford to make a jumpglut here (i.e. not a jumptrill)
00:38:235 - ^
00:42:235 - ^ (only this chord and the other)
00:43:346 - ^ ([34][23][14] seems ideal)
00:44:012 - think the proper pattern is [34][34][12][13][34] rather than what is listed, a noticeable pitch change is on the third double (and consequent doubles), not the second.
00:45:124 - jumpglut ([34][14][34][12][24][34], then ctrl-H the 1/8s afterwards)
00:47:790 - jumpglut
00:49:290 - maybe use [14][23][23] instead? Patterns using predominantly [12][34] is kinda hard to control
00:52:346 - Refer to 44.012

Jumpglut issues can also be found from 01:30:457 - to 01:50:235 - . Refer to 33.568 to 52.346. A jumpglut is defined as consecutive doubles, but is not a jumptrill.

01:03:790 - Would probably be a lot better if you used [34][12][34][12][34] instead - this is because most players would be hitting the triples with their wrists anyway, and the split jumptrill causes them to use a completely different set of muscles, creating some rigidity that is potentially inappropriate.
01:10:901 - ^
01:59:390 - Missing note - the piano is indeed a bit soft but it makes a lot more sense to place a note here than not as it could create some rigidity otherwise (something about how players create rhythms in their head).
02:59:453 - Not too fond of this section as a whole (up to 03:24:653) - I think there's too much tension present in this section for it to really sing - lots of places where you can't hit any other notes due to the early miss mechanic. Would prefer you to ignore the melody completely (i.e. getting rid of all of the LNs) and go for a triple-(single minijack)-triple-(single minijack) rhythm instead, layering all of the additional kicks if needed. Basically a pattern like http://i.imgur.com/pZdTe7r.png up to 03:23:253 - , along with the additional layering that you've done with the kicks in this section. If there's a handglut/jumpglut in this section, you don't need to place a single-note minijack afterwards.
03:29:753 - This is actually really difficult to time, probably because not many players are used to hitting syncopated triplet jumptrills (i.e. [12][34][12] [34][12][34]). I'd recommend swapping 03:29:953 - to [14][23][14] and maybe some other modifications. I did http://i.imgur.com/sJeIJRm.png for this section.
03:36:153 - ^ - you can vary it up. Basically ensure that if there are consecutive triplet jumptrills like http://i.imgur.com/m0XZnEF.png, make the second one a split jumptrill.
03:42:553 - Refer to 3:29.753
03:53:963 - You can probably place a minijack by shifting 03:54:066 - to 3 - the crash is really loud and could afford a minijack
04:07:463 - Refer to 1:03.790
04:14:574 - ^
05:04:218 - Refer to 2:59.453
05:34:224 - Refer to 3:29.753
05:40:224 - Refer to 3:36.153
05:46:224 - Refer to 3:29.753

Decent chart but with some fundamental errors (playability-wise) and a bit of an underwhelming kiai section which could be easily amended. Not too fond of the chart structure as a whole but I think the song is mainly to blame and not so much the charter in question.

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check

This map has elicited quite a lot of both negative and positive opinions. I've done my best to address everything that people criticized. Nothing is unrankable, but you could still improve on a couple of things. I got Evening and Shoegazer (his suggestions are above) to help me out

General

You have an unnecessary inherited point at 00:32:012 -
06:17:864 - Lmao nice snapping on your green line here
Can I suggest adding "12" to the tags? Cus it's touhou 12

Gradual Intensificaton of an Incomprehensibly Cataclysmic Hypernova

the hitsounds sound really loud in the intro. Maybe make it 25% volume (like the other quiet parts) until 00:14:235 - or 00:32:012 -
00:14:012 (14012|2,14012|3) - why's this a chord
00:58:679 - missing kick hitsound
01:00:235 (60235|0,60262|1) - this is on purpose right
01:14:624 (74624|0,74624|1) - why not delete one of those notes so that the next chord can be a triple for the crash, like you did at 01:07:568 - and 01:25:346 - ?
01:21:735 - same
04:18:296 - same
04:25:407 - same
01:27:568 - crash hitsound?
01:43:124 - missing kick AND crash hitsounds
02:13:190 (133190|3) - maybe move this to the second lane? the three notes in a row look conspicuous for no reason
02:30:790 (150790|1,150990|1,151190|1,151390|1) - now there's four notes in a row
02:22:191 - and 02:34:990 - it would be nice if you could rearrange the patterns so that one of these is on the left hand. For balance.
03:19:753 - shouldn't be a kick hitsound here
03:28:053 - missing kick hitsound
03:31:453 - same
03:31:553 - same
03:49:853 - this one probably shouldn't be a kick hitsound
03:50:653 - missing kick hitsound
04:02:308 - missing note, should be a triple
04:03:701 (243701|3,243755|2,243808|0,243862|1,243915|2,243969|3,244023|0,244076|1) - shouldn't half of this be 1/8? I dunno which half, but it doesn't sound like it should be the same density the whole time
04:04:130 - also if the second part of that stream is going to stay as 1/4 then you might as well add a note here to make it a triple like all the rest
04:04:130 - missing crash hitsound
06:14:911 - maybe it's not a good idea to use a 3-note pattern for such an extended period of time when the music is clearly divided into 4-note sequences

More stuff

The 1/8 is fine for ranking, don't sweat it. Evening and I don't think that it's much of a difficulty spike anyway

I believe the diff name is fine too. It doesn't break the formatting on the website, it's fully visible in the game, it's topical, and despite its length it's still a single noun phrase like "niv's gravity" or "black another" (hey look at that a BN giving grammar feedback). The only valid critique is that it's silly or unprofessional or whatever, but that's your choice

Evening and I think the jacks in the second parts of the kiais (the hardest parts, right) seem to be reasonable, but inconsistent. The jack placement often puts too much stress on the left or right hand, and the amount of jacks varies a lot. There are way more jacks at 05:32:818 - than 05:29:818 - , for example.

Cus I thought it would be fun and enlightening, I went through the second half of both kiais and deleted every note that wasn't a jack, 1/4 burst, or 1/8 stream. Check it out: http://puu.sh/pA3Mo.osu It should be a lot easier to tell when a certain lane is being stressed by the jacks, or when there are just too many jacks (like 05:38:724 - ), or not enough. I suggest you make it more consistent before I bubble.

Since you've taken out the 1/6, there's a huge jump in density when you go from 1/4 streams to 1/8. Here's a suggestion: instead of using 1/6, try using a light 1/4 jumpstream. Evening suggests a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/pzXb4/19ec6335d7.jpg You'll notice that it's the exact same density as a 1/6 stream and can be hit like a 1/6 jumptrill, but still follows the correct snap. whaddya think?

If you like the idea, I believe the following places (plus some others if you want to be more thorough) could be changed
00:59:790
01:56:679
03:37:253
03:49:053
05:41:255
05:52:318

I'm going to have to do a more thorough recheck than usual because of Shoegazer's suggestions, but respond to everything we said and you should be bubbled within a day or two

Cheers

stankill wrote:

uhm hi O /
Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |


change OD to 7-7,5
The patterns are way to fast to accurately hit them and are layered for "mashing" so od 8,6 makes no sense.




from 01:00:012 to 01:00:457 make it like that https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5445331 (there is no pitch in the BRRRRR sound to justify the changed direction of the patterns at this point)


03:49:053 - 03:49:853 There i no sound to justify the jumps on 1/2 -> change it to this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5445366 or make a light JS patter yourself C:

03:49:853 - 03:50:653 change it to this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5445378 fits the music better and is healthier for you hands <3


change the burst from 05:52:318 to 05:53:068 like the one mentioned above, accept the note on 05:53:021 move it to 4


Sorry for bad mod but i hope i could help
GL Mat <3

Nivrad00 wrote:

Recheck

03:38:053 - unintentional 3-note jack?
05:29:218 (329218|3,329318|3,329418|3,329518|3,329618|3,329718|3,329818|3) - this anchor is bothering me

Other than that it all looks good! According to your wishes I will hold the bubble until you have gotten more tests

riktoi wrote:

I'm a bit concerned about the hitsounding in this map. As much as someone would think the single custom hitsound you are using is enough, I think there is still much you could do to make it feel better for the player.

So here are my two cents:

- Using a different sampleset (like drum, or normal perhaps) should already have better impact on the map itself when used in the heavy sections. Soft is fine for the slow sections.
- Since you have one custom hitsound, why not add some more? Think something like Planet//Shaper, maybe. A lot of potential in this.

I'm not really forcing you to do any of this, I already know that many people prefer maps withount hitsounds and so on. But if you do plan on making more I'll look forward to it.

pls no kill

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I honestly really dislike the difficulty name, it's about six words too long makes next to no sense, while just being "pretentious". I would appreciate if you could give it a real and simple diffname when next BN checks it.

chistoefur wrote:

It would be the first ranked mania map with a diff name this long/unique, no?

-Kamikaze- wrote:

chistoefur wrote:

It would be the first ranked mania map with a diff name this long/unique, no?

That doesn't mean that it's a good thing.

Well, I'll just link this. I got burned on my first icon because of a silly diffname, so I'm just warning you about it. In the end it's not my business. Good luck Mat btw

Evening wrote:

I'm kinda checking for bubble now i suppose:

Very important!!:

05:46:224 (346224|0,346224|1,346271|2,346271|3,346318|1,346318|0,346411|1,346411|0,346458|2,346458|3,346505|1,346505|0) - The jumptrill pattern scheme here seems to follow a certain rule of not having jacks like this (on columns 1 and 2) as the trills here repeat, this is quite the difficulty spike since you have had 05:40:130 (340130|3,340130|2,340224|0,340224|1,340271|2,340271|3,340318|0,340318|1,340411|2,340411|3,340458|0,340458|1,340505|2,340505|3,340599|1,340599|0,340693|3,340693|2,340739|0,340739|1,340786|2,340786|3) - this pattern which is highly approximate-able. So basically I'm suggesting to at least ctrl +H 05:46:411 (346411|0,346411|1,346458|2,346458|3,346505|0,346505|1) - this

05:34:411 (334411|2,334411|3,334458|1,334458|0,334505|3,334505|2) - same here actually, honestly think this is quite a difficulty spike because of the bpm ramping

05:16:618 (316618|0,316668|1,316718|3) - think these should be kicks right or at least the ones on 1/2

Less important!! (suggestions):

02:08:990 (128990|1) - Would suggest to make this a gradual speed up in SV instead of a rigid SV change here, just to make it neater

04:32:574 - Following that ^, think you can use a slowjam here as it is similar and you can kind of speed it up to normal speed at 04:46:796 (286796|0) - or 05:01:018 (301018|3) -

ajeemaniz wrote:

not trying to help, but

long diff name broke the layout, at least in 4:3 screen o-o
shorter diff name will works

Hydria wrote:

Before this gets ranked, lets remember where this started: