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Camellia - Fastest Crash

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Topic Starter
Nathan
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, August 07, 2015 at 12:34:40 PM

Artist: Camellia
Title: Fastest Crash
Tags: oya masaya cametek RLC kevincela -kevincela- toybot mikii 大箭将也 hardcore dubstep かめるかめりあ
BPM: 210
Filesize: 6939kb
Play Time: 04:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab Insane (4.73 stars, 954 notes)
  2. Easy (1.64 stars, 236 notes)
  3. Extra (5.46 stars, 1186 notes)
  4. Hard (3.12 stars, 664 notes)
  5. Hyper (3.9 stars, 730 notes)
  6. -kevincela-'s Normal (2.41 stars, 375 notes)
  7. RLC's Paroxysm (6.03 stars, 1320 notes)
Download: Camellia - Fastest Crash
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SECOND RANKED MAP ( ゚∀゚)アハハ八八ノヽノヽノヽノ \ / \/ \
moya
nice1
byfar
HOLD ON
Nakano Itsuki
suki
-kevincela-
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Rapthorn
ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(; ・_・)┘ ||||
Gotta crash fast
Bonzi
:o
Mel
wow
ar9.2 is really slow though
Bunnrei

mel wrote:

ar9.2 is really slow though
I agree!
Nakano Itsuki


Btw where's the easy
Asphyxia
Hello
Topic Starter
Nathan
pending eyyy
Axarious
General
  1. 1366 x 767 bg. ;_;
  2. small, short mod
  3. imo, [Hyper] does not link between [Hard] and [Collab Insane].
Normal
  1. 00:30:858 (2) - To x:152 y:249 for 1.10x ds fix?
  2. 00:52:572 (1) - slider head sampleset normal?
  3. 01:54:858 (2) - fix blanket?
  4. 03:22:287 (3,1) - ctrl hj these please.
  5. 03:32:572 (1,1) - perhaps remove this small overlap for eye candy
  6. 03:32:572 (1) - bend this slider on this red tick 03:33:001 - ?
-kevincela-'s Normal
  1. 00:12:572 (1) - remove NC for consistency?
Hard
  1. 00:32:429 (2,3) - Link awkward red tick 1/2 sliders, possibly change to white ticks instead.
  2. 00:46:858 (1,2,3,4,5) - inconsistent with 01:05:715 (4,5) -
  3. 03:57:429 (2) - 1/4 reverse for consistency?
Hyper
  1. i think this difficulty should have more triples/streams to lead into [Collab Insane]. right now it looks the same as [Hard] but with increased ds.
  2. 03:57:429 (3) - 1/4 reverse
Collab Insane
  1. feels really nice.
  2. perhaps increase visibility on 01:46:001 (3,4) - these two sliders?
  3. 01:57:858 (2) - add reverse for consistency with 01:48:715 (2,3) - 01:47:572 (2) - ?
  4. aimod for 02:34:858 (2) -
Topic Starter
Nathan
fixed everything on my diffs except for the red tick sliders, the main beat goes from constant to 1/1 to 1/2 in that part + combined with some other sound which is higher pitch on red ticks than white ticks (idk what to call it ;w;)

about the diff spread for hyper, I added a bunch of triplets in kiais and wub parts

also RLC has given me permission to respond to mods for him so yeah

ty Axarious!
Frey
;w;


  • General
  1. Artist is wrong, it should be かめりあ. You can't romanize 大箭将也 into Camellia
  2. maybe add Hardcore \ Dubstep into Tags? but anyway, you should add 大箭将也 into TAGs

    Collab Insane

  3. 00:27:144 (5) - better add NC to emphasize the hitsounds
  4. 00:28:287 (4) - same as above
  5. 01:50:287 (1) - contrasted with this 01:48:001 (1,2,3,4) - , won't you think this one should stack around 01:50:429 (2) - ?

    Extra

  6. 02:54:644 (7) - 02:54:715 (8) - Sampleset=Normal
  7. 03:54:501 - add whistle and remove whistle of 03:54:858 - like what you did in 00:24:001 (1) -

    RLC's Paroxysm

  8. 02:15:572 (1) - remove NC and remove NC of 02:15:858 (1) - ? They just look colorful too much
  9. 03:37:429 (3) - Sampletset=Normal
  10. 03:52:144 (2,3) - Ctrl+G flow is better
GL, do remember to check the metadata, I don't think urs are right
Monstrata
WARNING: This map needs over 12 Star Priority BEFORE it should be considered for ranking/bubbling
Please focus your modding on maps which have higher star priorities first!

[RLC's Paroxysm]

  1. 00:20:572 (1,2) - Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm plays better for me, like what you did with: 00:21:715 (1,2) -
  2. 00:26:001 (6,7,8) - Don't really hear anything that would justify this pattern :\. How about 1/4 slider with 2x repeat instead?
  3. 00:44:287 (3,1) - Really small DS in comparison with the jumps throughout this section... Maybe make slider 3 a 3/4 slider instead?
  4. 01:18:287 (1,1) - Can you overlap less of the sliders? like 01:18:429 (2,2) -
  5. 01:20:858 (1,2,1) - I feel like a larger jump from 2>1 would fit the pitch increase a bit better.
  6. 01:43:572 (1,2,3,1) - Spacing doesn't reflect what's being emphasized here imo... 01:43:858 (3,1) - No jump here? It feels more fitting than then jump from 01:43:572 (1,2) -
  7. 02:04:001 (1,1,2) - Hmm... After that circular slider, making 02:04:287 (1,2) - Horizontal rather than vertical would play better xD.
  8. 02:12:572 (1,1,2) - This pattern felt a bit cramped for me ;c. the overlap also makes it a bit difficult to read since all of slider 2's head will still be covered by the hitburst.
  9. 03:42:287 (3,4) - Bigger jump here?
[Extra]

  1. 00:26:001 (6,7,8) - Don't really hear anything that would justify this pattern :\. How about 1/4 slider with 2x repeat instead?
  2. 00:32:287 (3,4,5) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm... The sliders feel a bit weird on red ticks even tho the music supports it...
  3. 01:30:287 - Could extend the break until here.
  4. 01:43:715 (1) - Intended NC?
  5. 01:48:287 (6,7,1) - Such a small DS between 7>1... You should make the jump a lot bigger imo D:.
  6. 01:52:001 (1) - You could definitely shorten this slider and map more notes, like maybe circle on 01:52:429 - instead. It's not like the other hold sliders you use later on, since there are still audible notes towards the end of this one
  7. 02:12:572 (1,2,3) - Could improve this pattern aesthetically. Make an even gap in between the parallels the same? Also, 1 and 3 aren't perfectly parallel :D
  8. 02:54:572 (6,7,8,1) - This feels more like a 5 circle stream x___x 02:54:787 - :C
  9. 03:40:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - You kill a lot of momentum by making those jumps stacked ;c. They don't have to be stacked, but you could arrange them like this, so the circles on red ticks aren't emphasized by low spacing, but momentum is maintained.
  10. 03:50:287 (2) - Tbh, the whole last section was mapped like a "build up" so this feels very anticlimactic when you play it :P. Maybe some stream here instead?


Just dropping a mod on the harder diffs, let me know when you feel its ready and i'll do the rest :D.
Topic Starter
Nathan

monstrata wrote:

WARNING: This map needs over 12 Star Priority BEFORE it should be considered for ranking/bubbling
Please focus your modding on maps which have higher star priorities first!

[Extra]

  1. 00:26:001 (6,7,8) - Don't really hear anything that would justify this pattern :\. How about 1/4 slider with 2x repeat instead? The circles are mapped to the same beats as all the other 1/4, just lower pitch, also there's a whoosh sound on the 1/4 slider with increasing intensity
  2. 00:32:287 (3,4,5) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm... The sliders feel a bit weird on red ticks even tho the music supports it... it's fine~ since the main beat goes from 1/1 to 1/2 + there's this sound that's higher pitch on red ticks than on white ticks, I don't know what that thing is called though :C
  3. 01:30:287 - Could extend the break until here. I prefer the current better
  4. 01:43:715 (1) - Intended NC? oops
  5. 01:48:287 (6,7,1) - Such a small DS between 7>1... You should make the jump a lot bigger imo D:. done
  6. 01:52:001 (1) - You could definitely shorten this slider and map more notes, like maybe circle on 01:52:429 - instead. It's not like the other hold sliders you use later on, since there are still audible notes towards the end of this one I just did it for the sake of making it easier since mine is about the same speed as RLC's diff but less 1/4 sliders/jumps and more breaks in between each section of wubs with the 1/8 repeats, I did this consistently anyways
  7. 02:12:572 (1,2,3) - Could improve this pattern aesthetically. Make an even gap in between the parallels the same? Also, 1 and 3 aren't perfectly parallel :D ye
  8. 02:54:572 (6,7,8,1) - This feels more like a 5 circle stream x___x 02:54:787 - :C The two circles and 1/4 slider have different pitched beats, so I wanted to signify that with the change of objects, the only other way I could emphasize it like that is with stream jumps, and yeah screw stream jumps
  9. 03:40:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - You kill a lot of momentum by making those jumps stacked ;c. They don't have to be stacked, but you could arrange them like this, so the circles on red ticks aren't emphasized by low spacing, but momentum is maintained. I think it's fine, they don't really "kill momentum," they just reset it, I did this for the sake of making it easier too, after each crazy jump section, especially since these are much lower pitched
  10. 03:50:287 (2) - Tbh, the whole last section was mapped like a "build up" so this feels very anticlimactic when you play it :P. Maybe some stream here instead? did a 1/4 slider pattern


Just dropping a mod on the harder diffs, let me know when you feel its ready and i'll do the rest :D.
thanks for the mod \:D/
RLC
a
00:20:572 (1) - I wanted a sharp hit moving into this section, so I used a circle first
00:26:001 - well there's 1/4 at the end of each measure--i used a less spaced pattern for that one because of the claps introduced in that measure
01:21:001 (2,1) - i feel like increasing the spacing here would make the slider pattern a little too hard (in such a dense section, slight spacing changes aren't really as noticeable anyway)
02:04:287 - it plays pretty much the same whether they're horizontal or vertical; i just made them vertical because i think it looks slightly better that way :p

anything not mentioned was changed!

thanks for the mod!
Mikii

Axarious wrote:

Collab Insane
  1. feels really nice. <3
  2. perhaps increase visibility on 01:46:001 (3,4) - these two sliders? Messy section without consideration for flow, just changed it overall
  3. 01:57:858 (2) - add reverse for consistency with 01:48:715 (2,3) - 01:47:572 (2) - ? This is fine, but I gave this section more variety
  4. aimod for 02:34:858 (2) -

Frey wrote:

Collab Insane


  1. 00:27:144 (5) - better add NC to emphasize the hitsounds
  2. 00:28:287 (4) - same as above
  3. 01:50:287 (1) - contrasted with this 01:48:001 (1,2,3,4) - , won't you think this one should stack around 01:50:429 (2) - ? This is really more for variety rather than contrast with any of these kicksliders. Have been nerfed
No comment = fixed
Thanks for the mod! Done with Toybot's approval
-kevincela-
shot a couple of stars, you should also add かめるかめりあ to the tags :p
ac8129464363
mhm
Topic Starter
Nathan
fixed everything from frey's mod on my extra and RLC diff, I'll wait till I get all the diffs to fix the metadata though
Topic Starter
Nathan
updated and fixed metadata, make sure to redl
Ciyus Miapah
im afraid the gap between Normal and hard very high, since the density on hard quite dense like hyper diff

and the objects difference between Normal and Hard is like 1:2

i hope you can made [Advanced] diff for this problem
Topic Starter
Nathan

Fort wrote:

im afraid the gap between Normal and hard very high, since the density on hard quite dense like hyper diff

and the objects difference between Normal and Hard is like 1:2

i hope you can made [Advanced] diff for this problem
Nah thanks for your concern but I disagree, it's natural for hard diffs to be much more dense with 1/2 than normals, especially with long songs. Hard is 80% more dense than normal, and normal is about 60% more dense than easy. Hard has no jumps and barely any 1/4, a few circles but mostly repeats which don't really count. Sounds right to me, but tbh numbers don't matter, what matters is if the spread is logical, and imo it's fine. I'll consider getting a few opinions though.
toybot
hi! ingame request!

[Extra]
sounds a little offbeat

[omg mappur rLC xDDD]
sounds good! aaah so hard xDD
Pho
^best mod
Have a wall from me

Bold: Fix quickly/unrankable issues
Purple: Questionable
Red: Highly recommend

[General]
  1. There's a little parasite (~3ms) in soft/normal-hitclap, just saying.
[Extra]
  1. 00:14:144 (4,5) - Confusing spacing which looks visually the same to 00:14:429 (5,6,7,8,1) - . And since people allright have to focus a lot on the rhythm & note density, you really should space this out.
    Same story with 00:14:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :
    Similar cases below which I won't mark out again though.
  2. 00:15:144 (3) - Replace with a circle for a more lenient play, current one is really difficult to catch properly.
  3. 00:17:429 (2) - Having this closer to 3 makes for a better look and spacing decision IMO, it'd seperate it better from 00:17:001 (7,1) - this pattern.
  4. 00:18:715 (3,4) - 1/8 kickslider for the lulz actually would really fit in better
  5. Blanket: 00:26:001 (6,1) -
  6. 00:27:858 (3,1,2) - I think you could slightly improve the flow be starting the stream slightly below and in another angle:
  7. 00:32:429 (4,5,6) - First off, pattern looks and flows with bad slider leniency, try some stuff out:
    Secondly, It also feels awkward that you suddenly start following the 'more melodic' instrument right now, you should have started following it at 00:31:858 - properly already. What i mean is: replace 00:31:715 (5) - with 2 circles and it follows the melody more appropriate.
    The same should be done for 00:36:287 (6,7,1) - then as well.
  8. 00:38:287 (2,3) - Again, bad slider leniency on 2. I know these patterns are kinda fun to make, but don't overdo it.
  9. 00:49:358 (2) - Delete. There might be a faint sound, but it's not something that obvious or something that asks for a triple. I also feel it puts a better accent on the next triple at 00:50:715 (2,3,4) - .
  10. 00:54:858 (1,2,3,4,1) - Idk what is this rofl, i think you tried copying RLC too hard here.
  11. 01:05:144 (1,2,3) - Broken windmill, fix plss
  12. 01:06:287 - A problem that arises from this kiai (at least to me) is that these streams are not really lenient to play because of this rhythm/pattern:
    Taking above as example, you are forcing the player to adjust his movement speed continuously and really quick because these kind of patterns reappear steadily: 01:07:858 (4,5) - causes big tempo, then the low streamspacing at 01:08:001 (5,6,7) - lowers necessary tempo again.
    1/4 sliders leading into streamsections is generally a bad idea, so you certainly want to revisit that. Really easiest solution is to swap these sliders with regular circles as this will make it most comfortable to play.
  13. 01:10:144 (4,5) - Closer together please, the visual distance is confusing again.
  14. 01:10:858 (1,2,3,4) - Strong drumbeats on the white and red ticks here, so 1/4 sliders would be a better alternative IMO. Maybe a windmill or something:
  15. 01:35:144 (2) - position at 142 | 24 , neater pattern.
  16. 01:36:287 (2,3,4) - Kinda lame linear movement :/ Did something:
  17. 01:39:572 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Idk, this makes me sad somehow.
  18. 01:41:429 (4) - I don't understand why this is 1/8 although it sounds pretty much the same as 01:40:572 (1,2,3) - . 1/4 is also what I hear here.
  19. 01:42:287 (3) - Replace with two 1/4 sliders for vocals if you like.
  20. 01:42:858 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing will screw up players man, sudden high tempo from 1-2-3 and then an 'antijump' to 4.
  21. 01:48:287 (6,7) - Bad leniency again :v Actually would be better if you don't squish that slider in the corner.
  22. 01:49:144 (4) - I really hope you find another solution for these pesky kicksliders. There's so many of those in this particular section that most players probably will rage from the combobreaks these deliver. Find inspiration in RLC.
  23. 01:54:858 (1,2,3) - urgh
  24. 01:59:287 (3) - This better be a circle for better leniency.
  25. 02:36:429 (7,1) - This doesn't connect well flow-wise :/
  26. 02:39:429 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2) - Umm, inconsistent spacing I guess
  27. 02:40:144 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I doubt this pattern goes well with the music but eh... Missing a melodic beat at 02:40:787 - though.
  28. 02:54:144 (4,6,7,8) - >.<
  29. 03:04:287 (2,3,4,5) - That is some pretty odd sharp-angle flow, can you make it smoother? Idk, something like:
  30. 03:12:287 (4,5,6) - Confusing spacing.
  31. 03:39:144 (2,1,2) - This was actually pretty hard to read while playing, maybe don't overshadow the circle with sliderstart but might just be me.
  32. 03:50:572 (4,5) - I think you want to swap the positions, the current pattern plays a bit odd flow-wise.
  33. 03:56:072 - No strong beat here but faint sound, delete. And reposition the previous circle.
  34. I like the variety in patterns in your map, but you should work on the playability of them. Summarized, three things you really should consider for this:
    1.) Don't overuse patterns with bad slider leniency like 00:56:001 (1,2,1) - and 01:21:572 (5,6) -, they are hard to catch properly and play bad in masses.
    2.) Take care of your spacing (references above). Having patterns with visually same distance is nice, but you must consider their readability as well.
    3.) Don't sliderjump into streams extensively.

    Points 2 and 3 are the most critical ones.
[RLC]

  • Yeah idk how to mod this.
  1. 00:25:858 (5,6) - I'd feel more comfortable with this spacing being a bit higher.
  2. 01:01:787 (2) - Switch position of this to 01:02:072 - where there is an actual beat to follow.
  3. 01:05:001 (5,1,2,3,4,1) - Nice blanket
  4. 01:37:144 (1,2) - Two sliders feels more consistent but if you like to have that higher emphasis via circles k...
  5. 01:41:358 (4) - I'd actually delete this and reposition the ministream, doesn't feel to great to streamstart at a blue tick.
  6. 01:51:572 (1,1) - Should be same size since they pretty much represent the same sound (not that it matters much eh)
  7. 01:59:072 (2,3) - Tried the following rhythm already? It goes better with the drumstep:
  8. 02:41:429 (3) - 121 | 186 for same visual distance
  9. 03:02:001 (5) - Would fit better to the melodic part if it had the same shape as 03:02:287 (6) - , just with ctrl+h/j
Conclusion: Not ready yet. RLC's diff is pretty nice, but you need further revision on that Extra. Try to find a compromise with the 3 points i mentioned at the end and you should be fine. Good luck /o/
Ciyus Miapah
yeah i hope playability can support that one
Iceskulls
as requested

[general]
  1. delay in soft-hitclap and normal-hitclap
[easy]
  1. 00:53:715 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 00:53:715 (2,1) - a bit better
  2. 01:52:001 (1,2) - oop inconsistent spacing
  3. 01:58:858 (3) - nc here ? cus 2 bar nc consistency ya
  4. 02:04:572 (3) - a bit nazi , might be better to move this to around x488 y156 so that make flow here 02:04:001 (2,3,4) - pretty nice imo
  5. 02:15:429 (2,3) - minor inconsistent spacing
  6. 02:45:715 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 02:45:715 (2,3) - a bit better
  7. 03:13:144 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 03:13:144 (2,3) - a bit better
  8. 03:23:429 (4) - missing nc ?
  9. 03:42:858 (2) - lol simiiliar to what I said about "curve another way for better flow"
[-kevincela-]
  • 00:23:287 (2,1) - a bit inconsistent spacing here , should be 1.1x spacing
  1. 00:40:001 (1,2) - same^
  2. 02:43:144 (3,4) -, 03:01:429 (3,4) - , 03:11:715 (6,1) - ,03:25:144 (4,1) - ^ ( not sure if intended or not tho)
[hard]
  • currently stack leniency have ripped some pattern now here 00:15:287 (2,3,1) - , 00:18:715 (2,3,1) - ,00:38:858 (1,2,3) - ,01:08:572 (1,2,3) - ,..etc
    press f5 or enter stacking mode and you will see the pattern got ripped so ya you can fix those by either move notes a bit or do manual stack
  1. 01:14:858 (3,4,5,6) - ,01:20:001 (1,2,3,4) - I would prefer to use sliders here instead like what you did here 01:24:001 (3,4) - , a lots of circle clicking here can be a bit exhaust for player at this level which might make it sound hard for hard player , also you use sliders in hyper which is harder diff but not in this diff , ok j lmao
  2. 01:43:429 (3,4,1,2) - so the bpm here is pretty high and ya the thing here is somehow I feel like the notes here got some sharp angle thing which make the flow kinda a bit awkward on high bpm song so mmm maybe give this less angle will make thing more smooth for hard player
  3. 03:20:287 (2,3,4,5) - ,03:29:429 (2,3,4,5) - ,03:38:572 (2,3,4,5) - like what I said here 01:14:858 (3,4,5,6) - ,01:20:001 (1,2,3,4) -
  4. 03:46:287 (1,2,3,4) - , 03:47:429 (1,2,3,4) - well these are k , I guess since music is pretty instense a lots here but why the rhythm here harder than hyper lmao
[hyper]
  1. 00:52:572 - why skip this strong beat here ? I think mapping this beat will make rhythm here sound better
  2. 01:08:287 (4,5,6,1) - rip pattern because stack leniency (press f5 q:)
  3. 03:13:858 (4,5) - the stright flow here kinda rip the momentum from the flow here 03:13:572 (3,4) - give a slightly angle here should make thing flow a bit better imo
[collab insane]
  1. AIBat v3.1 wrote:

    Snapping
    02:35:715 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
    02:35:715 (2) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
    02:36:001 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
    02:36:001 (3) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
    02:36:287 (4) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
    02:36:287 (4) - Unsnapped slider (repeat).
  2. 00:39:429 (4) - the finish sound as sliderend it make rhythm here play a bit awkward , I would prefer to make rhythm like this instead, it plays and sound better
  3. 00:41:858 (4) - the finish sound as sliderend it make rhythm here play a bit awkward , I would prefer to make rhythm like this instead
  4. 02:45:429 (5) - try this rhythm instead ? I think it might play better
  5. 03:27:572 (3) - a bit nazi , try move this to around x216 y252 ? it might make flow here 03:27:287 (2,3,4) - a bit better
[extra]
  1. 00:31:144 (2,3) - try swap place of these two notes ? it will make flow here 00:30:858 (1,2,3,4) - better imo
  2. 00:33:001 (6,1,2,3) - try swap plaec of notes here , it will make flow here 00:32:715 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - better
  3. 01:52:858 (2) - ctrl+g this and it might make transition here 01:52:572 (1,2,3) - better
  4. 02:51:858 (3) - ctrl+g this and it might make flow here 02:51:715 (2,3,4) - better imo
  5. 03:00:858 (2,3,4) - try place like this ? it might make flow here 03:00:858 (2,3,4,5) - better
  6. 03:21:287 (2,3) - would make flow nice if you swap place of these two notes it will make the flow become a bit nice smooth circular flow when combine with 03:20:858 (2,3) - flow
  7. 03:41:144 (4,5,6,7,1) - make spacing thing here somehow a bit consistent will amke flow here nice imo

    I guess thing that might be a problem here is some bad transition thing that can the flow a bit not good and might be a bit confuse to read imo q: like 00:55:572 (1,1) - ,01:43:572 (5,6) - ,01:54:858 (1,2,3) - , 01:58:858 (1,2) - ,02:03:858 (3,1) -,02:49:144 (1,2) - ,02:56:572 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - ,03:35:715 (5,1,2) - ,..etc , usually I think give a transition like direct transition make thing more a lots better here like what you did here 00:48:001 (1,2,3) - , 02:42:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , 01:45:144 (1,2,3) - ,01:45:715 (1,2,3,1) - ,01:48:429 (7,1,2) - ,01:49:715 (1,2,3,4) - ,..etc
    to sum thing up : recheck flow correlation with music would be nice q:
[rlc]
  1. 01:46:858 (1,2,1,2) - mm feel like the spacing might be a bit too big for this part of music where the 1/2 is not emphasized and 1/1 is emphasized a lots , I think decrease spacing here would be nice or you can do stack , I guess lol
  2. 02:19:287 (2,3) - feel like if you swap place of these two notes it will make flow here 02:19:144 (1,2,3) - nice

    nice diff
good luck :)
Topic Starter
Nathan

Pho wrote:

[General]
  1. There's a little parasite (~3ms) in soft/normal-hitclap, just saying. fixed
[Extra]
  1. 00:14:144 (4,5) - Confusing spacing which looks visually the same to 00:14:429 (5,6,7,8,1) - . And since people allright have to focus a lot on the rhythm & note density, you really should space this out.fixed
    Same story with 00:14:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - : Fixed
    Similar cases below which I won't mark out again though.
  2. 00:15:144 (3) - Replace with a circle for a more lenient play, current one is really difficult to catch properly. just moved another object closer
  3. 00:17:429 (2) - Having this closer to 3 makes for a better look and spacing decision IMO, it'd seperate it better from 00:17:001 (7,1) - this pattern. done
  4. 00:18:715 (3,4) - 1/8 kickslider for the lulz pls
  5. Blanket: 00:26:001 (6,1) -
  6. 00:27:858 (3,1,2) - I think you could slightly improve the flow be starting the stream slightly below and in another angle: it really won't make much of a difference since I've placed the 1/4 slider to play like a circle, plus I wanted to form a triangle, although I fixed the shape since it was off
  7. 00:32:429 (4,5,6) - First off, pattern looks and flows with bad slider leniency, try some stuff out: the slider leniency isn't necessarily bad, but I changed it anyways
    Secondly, It also feels awkward that you suddenly start following the 'more melodic' instrument right now, you should have started following it at 00:31:858 - properly already. What i mean is: replace 00:31:715 (5) - with 2 circles and it follows the melody more appropriate.
    The same should be done for 00:36:287 (6,7,1) - then as well. good point, fixed
  8. 00:38:287 (2,3) - Again, bad slider leniency on 2. I know these patterns are kinda fun to make, but don't overdo it.[/color] It's fine, 2 3 and 4 are about equal distance so it plays like a triangle
  9. 00:49:358 (2) - Delete. There might be a faint sound, but it's not something that obvious or something that asks for a triple. I also feel it puts a better accent on the next triple at 00:50:715 (2,3,4) - . done
  10. 00:54:858 (1,2,3,4,1) - Idk what is this rofl, i think you tried copying RLC too hard here. fite me, jk I don't see what's wrong with this though, the first slider plays like its shape while the second slider plays like a straight one due to slider leniency, since the player will cut off naturally at the end to hit 00:56:001 (1) -
  11. 01:05:144 (1,2,3) - Broken windmill, fix plss ye
  12. 01:06:287 - A problem that arises from this kiai (at least to me) is that these streams are not really lenient to play because of this rhythm/pattern:
    Taking above as example, you are forcing the player to adjust his movement speed continuously and really quick because these kind of patterns reappear steadily: 01:07:858 (4,5) - causes big tempo, then the low streamspacing at 01:08:001 (5,6,7) - lowers necessary tempo again.
    1/4 sliders leading into streamsections is generally a bad idea, so you certainly want to revisit that. Really easiest solution is to swap these sliders with regular circles as this will make it most comfortable to play. yeah I'll consider this and get some testplays/opinions, for now I changed a lot of the 1/4 sliders though
  13. 01:10:144 (4,5) - Closer together please, the visual distance is confusing again. fixed
  14. 01:10:858 (1,2,3,4) - Strong drumbeats on the white and red ticks here, so 1/4 sliders would be a better alternative IMO. Maybe a windmill or something:
    done
  15. 01:35:144 (2) - position at 142 | 24 , neater pattern. fixed
  16. 01:36:287 (2,3,4) - Kinda lame linear movement :/ Did something: wat that 4 wasn't a slider though
  17. 01:39:572 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Idk, this makes me sad somehow. same, the pattern is just a build up though, it starts out stacking, and as all circles are unstacked the jumps get sharper with angles
  18. 01:41:429 (4) - I don't understand why this is 1/8 although it sounds pretty much the same as 01:40:572 (1,2,3) - . 1/4 is also what I hear here. oops
  19. 01:42:287 (3) - Replace with two 1/4 sliders for vocals if you like. ok sure
  20. 01:42:858 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing will screw up players man, sudden high tempo from 1-2-3 and then an 'antijump' to 4. fixed
  21. 01:48:287 (6,7) - Bad leniency again :v Actually would be better if you don't squish that slider in the corner. it's fine~
  22. 01:49:144 (4) - I really hope you find another solution for these pesky kicksliders. There's so many of those in this particular section that most players probably will rage from the combobreaks these deliver. Find inspiration in RLC. well nope, but I don't think they should be THAT annoying, I've made sure to stack them all and I've gotten a lot of testplays, there haven't been many breaks on these actually
  23. 01:54:858 (1,2,3) - urgh asdf
  24. 01:59:287 (3) - This better be a circle for better leniency. ok yeah this one was ridiculous LOL
  25. ]02:36:429 (7,1) - This doesn't connect well flow-wise :/ It's fine with a 1/1 gap, players can easily catch up to it
  26. 02:39:429 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2) - Umm, inconsistent spacing I guess fixed
  27. 02:40:144 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I doubt this pattern goes well with the music but eh... Missing a melodic beat at 02:40:787 - though. changed the pattern to make more sense actually
  28. 02:54:144 (4,6,7,8) - >.< asdf
  29. 03:04:287 (2,3,4,5) - That is some pretty odd sharp-angle flow, can you make it smoother? Idk, something like: I wanted the sharp angles for emphasis tho
  30. 03:12:287 (4,5,6) - Confusing spacing. fixed
  31. 03:39:144 (2,1,2) - This was actually pretty hard to read while playing, maybe don't overshadow the circle with sliderstart but might just be me. possibly, I'll fix if others point it out
  32. 03:50:572 (4,5) - I think you want to swap the positions, the current pattern plays a bit odd flow-wise. really? it's just a back and forth movement, should be fine lol
  33. 03:56:072 - No strong beat here but faint sound, delete. And reposition the previous circle.
  34. I like the variety in patterns in your map, but you should work on the playability of them. Summarized, three things you really should consider for this:
    1.) Don't overuse patterns with bad slider leniency like 00:56:001 (1,2,1) - and 01:21:572 (5,6) -, they are hard to catch properly and play bad in masses. I think this is just more of a style conflict, it's not that they play badly (I don't get how slider leniency can play badly anyways lol), but as you said in-game you don't want them to act like circles, which I'm personally fine with.
    2.) Take care of your spacing (references above). Having patterns with visually same distance is nice, but you must consider their readability as well. fixed as many I could find
    3.) Don't sliderjump into streams extensively. changed some stuff in first kiai as stated earlier

    Points 2 and 3 are the most critical ones.
Conclusion: Not ready yet. RLC's diff is pretty nice, but you need further revision on that Extra. Try to find a compromise with the 3 points i mentioned at the end and you should be fine. Good luck /o/ super helpful mod thanks! fundamental things should be good now =w=7

CelsiusLK wrote:

as requested

[general]
  1. delay in soft-hitclap and normal-hitclap fixed
[easy]
  1. 00:53:715 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 00:53:715 (2,1) - a bit better ok
  2. 01:52:001 (1,2) - oop inconsistent spacing ok
  3. 01:58:858 (3) - nc here ? cus 2 bar nc consistency ya fixed
  4. 02:04:572 (3) - a bit nazi , might be better to move this to around x488 y156 so that make flow here 02:04:001 (2,3,4) - pretty nice imo ok
  5. 02:15:429 (2,3) - minor inconsistent spacing :C
  6. 02:45:715 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 02:45:715 (2,3) - a bit better meh I think these are fine, having the curve like this just makes the player use dropoff flow/slider leniency, they won't follow the path exactly how
  7. 03:13:144 (2) - curve this the another way instead would make flow here 03:13:144 (2,3) - a bit better same reason
  8. 03:23:429 (4) - missing nc ? fixed
  9. 03:42:858 (2) - lol simiiliar to what I said about "curve another way for better flow" same reason
[hard]
  • currently stack leniency have ripped some pattern now here 00:15:287 (2,3,1) - , 00:18:715 (2,3,1) - ,00:38:858 (1,2,3) - ,01:08:572 (1,2,3) - ,..etc
    press f5 or enter stacking mode and you will see the pattern got ripped so ya you can fix those by either move notes a bit or do manual stack asdf
  1. 01:14:858 (3,4,5,6) - ,01:20:001 (1,2,3,4) - I would prefer to use sliders here instead like what you did here 01:24:001 (3,4) - , a lots of circle clicking here can be a bit exhaust for player at this level which might make it sound hard for hard player , also you use sliders in hyper which is harder diff but not in this diff , ok j lmao actually I just changed the sliders in to circles LOL
  2. 01:43:429 (3,4,1,2) - so the bpm here is pretty high and ya the thing here is somehow I feel like the notes here got some sharp angle thing which make the flow kinda a bit awkward on high bpm song so mmm maybe give this less angle will make thing more smooth for hard player ok
  3. 03:20:287 (2,3,4,5) - ,03:29:429 (2,3,4,5) - ,03:38:572 (2,3,4,5) - like what I said here 01:14:858 (3,4,5,6) - ,01:20:001 (1,2,3,4) -
  4. 03:46:287 (1,2,3,4) - , 03:47:429 (1,2,3,4) - well these are k , I guess since music is pretty instense a lots here but why the rhythm here harder than hyper lmaoit might be more dense but in hyper I wanted to introduce jumps/increased spacing, if I did that in combination with circles it would be a bit overdone, it's not a huge deal though it's fine
[hyper]
  1. 00:52:572 - why skip this strong beat here ? I think mapping this beat will make rhythm here sound better there's a bit of a drop here and I wanted the stop, it's not really a drum beat anyways I think it's fine
  2. 01:08:287 (4,5,6,1) - rip pattern because stack leniency (press f5 q:) fixed
  3. 03:13:858 (4,5) - the stright flow here kinda rip the momentum from the flow here 03:13:572 (3,4) - give a slightly angle here should make thing flow a bit better imo done
[extra]
  1. 00:31:144 (2,3) - try swap place of these two notes ? it will make flow here 00:30:858 (1,2,3,4) - better imo I disagree, 1 -> 2 play fine already with slider leniency and flipping these will create an unnecessarily sharp angle from 3 -> 4
  2. 00:33:001 (6,1,2,3) - try swap plaec of notes here , it will make flow here 00:32:715 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - better already did something from pho's mod
  3. 01:52:858 (2) - ctrl+g this and it might make transition here 01:52:572 (1,2,3) - better done
  4. 02:51:858 (3) - ctrl+g this and it might make flow here 02:51:715 (2,3,4) - better imo tbh this doesn't make much of a difference either way players will ignore the sliderpath but w/e
  5. 03:00:858 (2,3,4) - try place like this ? it might make flow here 03:00:858 (2,3,4,5) - better ^
  6. 03:21:287 (2,3) - would make flow nice if you swap place of these two notes it will make the flow become a bit nice smooth circular flow when combine with 03:20:858 (2,3) - flow I really dislike wide angles, I want a sharper angle going into the next triangle since these are grouped in threes for emphasis, and wide angles don't play as well as sharp since players can't snap as well without as much change in direction
  7. 03:41:144 (4,5,6,7,1) - make spacing thing here somehow a bit consistent will amke flow here nice imo ok I guess

    I guess thing that might be a problem here is some bad transition thing that can the flow a bit not good and might be a bit confuse to read imo q: like 00:55:572 (1,1) - ,01:43:572 (5,6) - ,01:54:858 (1,2,3) - , 01:58:858 (1,2) - ,02:03:858 (3,1) -,02:49:144 (1,2) - ,02:56:572 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - ,03:35:715 (5,1,2) - ,..etc , usually I think give a transition like direct transition make thing more a lots better here like what you did here 00:48:001 (1,2,3) - , 02:42:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , 01:45:144 (1,2,3) - ,01:45:715 (1,2,3,1) - ,01:48:429 (7,1,2) - ,01:49:715 (1,2,3,4) - ,..etc
    to sum thing up : recheck flow correlation with music would be nice q: these all play fine, in fact some of patterns that you pointed out as good actually play similar to some of the patterns in the first set lol, 1/4 sliders have a LOT of leniency and I just took advantage of that, seems like you and Pho disagree with me on that but I've had plenty of people test and read all these fine, if you want I could explain each pattern individually :V

good luck :)
thanks for the helpful mods~
Asphyxia
IRC Log
19:31 sukiNathan: can you testplay fastest crash
19:31 sukiNathan: I need to see somethin
19:31 Asphyxia: k
19:31 Asphyxia: link
19:31 sukiNathan: extra
19:31 *sukiNathan is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/733431 Camellia - Fastest Crash]
19:36 Asphyxia: didnt do tht well
19:36 Asphyxia: soz
19:36 sukiNathan: did it play fine tho
19:37 Asphyxia: did you get what you needed
19:37 sukiNathan: not really I need to ask you like 2 questions
19:38 sukiNathan: first one is
19:38 sukiNathan: http://puu.sh/j8JFu/6da6324c2e.jpg
19:38 sukiNathan: pho modded my diff and he said he doesn't like how I use slider leniency
19:38 Asphyxia: which spot
19:38 sukiNathan: 2
19:38 sukiNathan: like
19:39 sukiNathan: how I make the 1/4 sliders act like circles in a way
19:39 sukiNathan: but it still plays fine
19:39 sukiNathan: is that really a bad thing
19:39 Asphyxia: played fine to me
19:40 sukiNathan: 01:09:001 (4,5,6,7,8) - ok and
19:40 sukiNathan: did you feel like you were accelerating and slowing down constantly
19:40 sukiNathan: with these type of patterns
19:40 sukiNathan: 01:12:429 (4,5,6,7,8) -
19:40 sukiNathan: 01:13:572 (4,5,6,7,8) - etc
19:40 Asphyxia: maybe a bit, but it didn't feel too forced or anything
19:41 Asphyxia: it felt fine to me
19:41 sukiNathan: kk ty~
19:41 Asphyxia: but
19:41 Asphyxia: I do want to give some feedback
19:41 Asphyxia: if you're open for it
19:41 sukiNathan: alright
19:41 sukiNathan: I need a lot anyways
19:41 Asphyxia: I know that you're aren't probably a mapper that cares about looks that much
19:41 Asphyxia: seeing your style
19:42 Asphyxia: 01:05:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - but this stream visually is quite bad
19:42 Asphyxia: the circle looks super sloppy
19:42 Asphyxia: 01:07:144 (8,9) - these aren't parallel, and it's noticeable but not sure if your intention was that
19:43 Asphyxia: 01:08:001 (5,6,7,8,9) - this could be handled a bit better as well, visually
19:44 Asphyxia: then you have cases like 01:13:715 (5,6,7) - straight line 01:13:929 (8,9) - curved
19:44 Asphyxia: if anything, stick to one
19:44 Asphyxia: that makes the pattern look more appealing to anyone's eye
19:44 Asphyxia: especially because your sliders are straight
19:44 Asphyxia: but you can ignore all of this if you don't care about this
19:44 Asphyxia: this is all for the sake of visuals
19:44 Asphyxia: it doesn't affect the gameplay
19:44 Asphyxia: and if it does, only a tad
19:45 sukiNathan: actually I've started caring about aesthetics a bit more recently
19:45 Asphyxia: 01:16:001 (5) - this could look visually more appealing as well if it was more parallel with the 1/4 sliders
19:45 sukiNathan: so I'll fix all of these
19:45 Asphyxia: instead of rotated weirdly
19:45 Asphyxia: and those streams don't just apply there, I see them everywhere
19:45 Asphyxia: consider making streams like blanketing
19:45 Asphyxia: if you make it like that, the circles of the streams
19:45 Asphyxia: or the shapes
19:45 Asphyxia: will get a lot better
19:45 Asphyxia: or you can do what yuko does, converts sliders into streams
19:45 Asphyxia: that works as well
19:46 sukiNathan: yeah should've done that lmao
19:47 Asphyxia: 01:33:144 (1) - this slider is beautifulk
19:48 Asphyxia: 01:33:715 (1) - but the blanket looks incorrect
19:48 Asphyxia: now again, this is completely optional but 01:42:858 - this section was pretty good
19:48 Asphyxia: but the second half of it felt somewhat repetitive
19:49 Asphyxia: it's not a bad thing at all considering the music itself is repetitive as well
19:49 Asphyxia: but personally, some variation could be created
19:49 Asphyxia: even through different slider shapes
19:50 sukiNathan: i'll consider that
19:50 Asphyxia: 01:44:144 (2) - maybe the slider could look a tad neater somehow? also, a really nitpicky thing is that
19:51 Asphyxia: 01:44:429 (3) - you could move this more to the right, so that the sliders end transitions perfectly
19:51 Asphyxia: to the note
19:51 Asphyxia: not mandatory at all
19:51 Asphyxia: but you can do that
19:51 Asphyxia: 01:46:287 (1) - making the blanket correct would make the pattern a bit betterlooking imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426055
19:52 Asphyxia: 01:47:715 (4,5,6,7,2) - now this
19:52 Asphyxia: this is what im talking about
19:52 Asphyxia: this looks super nice
19:52 Asphyxia: every shape is done properly
19:52 Asphyxia: blanketed properly
19:52 Asphyxia: this is the good shit
19:53 Asphyxia: 01:51:572 (6,1) - not sure if you mind, but there's a small overlap
19:53 Asphyxia: it's noticeable in-game if you pay attention to it
19:54 Asphyxia: 01:58:144 (3) - again, small, but the transition could be perfect if you wanted to
19:55 Asphyxia: 02:00:858 (8) - personally, this would be more fitting as 2 circles rathern than a slider, to fit 02:00:572 (6,7) - , but I know that it's super hard to re-do patterns like this
19:55 Asphyxia: so just consider it
19:56 sukiNathan: vocals tho
19:56 Asphyxia: 02:10:715 (3) - maybe rotate its end a bit so it blankets the 02:10:287 (1) - slider as well as 02:10:572 (2) - ?
19:56 Asphyxia: 02:11:572 (2) - could look a tad better imo, but that's your slider so your call
19:56 Asphyxia: 02:13:715 (1) -
19:57 Asphyxia: 02:18:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - again, the stream is sloppy
19:57 Asphyxia: you start off by a curve, but then it just flattens out
19:57 Asphyxia: 02:18:572 (5) - personal opinion here, but curving it the other way around COULD give it a nicer effect
19:58 Asphyxia: 02:19:429 (1) - would prob give it a bit more spacing due to the really loud crash
19:58 Asphyxia: 02:36:001 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - stream
19:59 Asphyxia: 02:37:429 (4) - this clap is really, really loud and it hurts my ears, any way to reduce that a bit?
20:00 Asphyxia: 02:39:429 (5) - again, just me here talking from my personal preferences but the slider could look better like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3426087
20:00 Asphyxia: looks more connected to 02:38:858 (1) -
20:00 Asphyxia: but I get your idea, you wanted it to be connected to the stream
20:00 Asphyxia: and that's why it was like that
20:00 sukiNathan: ah 90 degree angle
20:00 Asphyxia: 02:43:429 (1,2,3) - could make the spacing equal if you wanted to
20:01 Asphyxia: because atm
20:01 Asphyxia: 02:43:429 (1,2) - this spacing is the biggest from those 3
20:01 Asphyxia: yet the stronger beats are at 02:43:715 (2,3) -
20:03 Asphyxia: 03:05:715 (5,6,7,8,9) - stream
20:03 Asphyxia: that fine is a bit fine
20:03 Asphyxia: but like
20:03 Asphyxia: it could be curved, it could be like, 5-6 straight, 7 forms the V bottom thing
20:03 Asphyxia: and then 8-9 straight
20:03 Asphyxia: but it doesn't look like any of that atm
20:03 Asphyxia: 03:08:287 (7,1) - COULD be parallel
20:04 Asphyxia: 03:22:287 (1) - this would definitely fit as 2 circles IMO, but again, it's hard to re-adjust patterns
20:04 Asphyxia: and that may not be what you prefer
20:04 Asphyxia: so yeah
20:05 Asphyxia: 03:48:858 (5) - again, just my personal preference here so don't listen to me if you like your own way
20:06 Asphyxia: and make sure to keep them as they are if you evenslightly prefer your own
20:06 Asphyxia: but that could be curved, to do that blanketish effect with 03:48:287 (2) -
20:06 Asphyxia: and to fit the curved stream
20:06 Asphyxia: 03:52:429 (3) - blanket could be better?
20:07 Asphyxia: 03:57:715 (1) - not mandatory, but the slider's end could be dropped by few girds to make this symmetrical, cool look for it
20:08 Asphyxia: overall a really good map I feel like, but there's few things that could use improvements
20:08 Asphyxia: and those are the streams
20:08 sukiNathan: ok ty
20:08 sukiNathan: can you post this

Nathan asked for a test, and then I just suggested things that could improve the map. Overall a really good Extra!
-kevincela-
All fixed except from 00:40:001 (1,2) - (had to make the spacing higher to make it properly blanket the note) and 03:25:144 (4,1) - (done in order to make the slider start right at 03:23:429 (1) - 's start)

Thanks!

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272,364,215715,1,2,1:2:0:0:
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Topic Starter
Nathan
ok I got bored and remapped all my wubs since I hated them and they were lame, 500x better now lmao
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CelsiusLK wrote:

as requested

  1. 00:41:858 (4) - the finish sound as sliderend it make rhythm here play a bit awkward , I would prefer to make rhythm like this instead - eh, i can't really think of a good way to implement this without ruining his choice of flow, sorry

good luck :)
rest are fixed, thanks! https://0paste.tk/7722.txt
pishifat
od on hardhyperinsane could be raised

[collab insane]
  1. 00:18:572 (2) - spacing from 1->2 should be smaller than 2->3 like 00:16:001 (1,2,3) - 00:14:858 (1,2,3) - . works stacking 2 under 6 or something inconsistency sucks
  2. 00:34:001 (1,2) - combos should prob be swapped like 00:43:144 (5) - 00:38:572 (5,1) - 00:52:287 (5) - ye
  3. 00:41:858 (4,5) - uh i see toybot just rejected this but it's pretty shit still
  4. 00:42:787 (3) - there's nothing on the blue tick here that's more special than the white tick, so it just forces weird clicking emphasis. 2 circles >
  5. 01:01:572 - super loud kick why is this being ignored something like thisworks or anything esle idk
  6. 01:02:001 (2,4,5,6) - manually stack stuff like 00:46:429 (4,1) - both are on screen same time and looks like balls
  7. 01:10:001 (2) - dont really get why some of these ignore the loud beep but idk
  8. 01:24:715 (1) - id understand ending the spinner at 02:19:572 (1) - on low volume since the song is way quieter but there's stuff going on for this one so raise volumeszsz
  9. 01:33:715 (3) - should have a new combo because reasons dont make me explain
  10. 01:35:572 (4,1,2) - 01:38:429 (2) - starting these on the red ticks makes no sense. white ticks have all the emphasis here. 01:35:287 (3) - 01:37:572 (3) - these are fine since there's that beepsomething sound to map out, but like other stuff is following nothing with strong stuff on tails
  11. 01:53:358 (2) - same as the other blue-tick-1/4-slider except htis one is even more misleading beacuse spacing looks easily like any other 1/4 jumps from 1/4 sliders
  12. 01:55:215 (2) - im dying there isnt even a sound on that blue tick
  13. 01:57:858 (2) - 01:59:001 (1) - o k notice how toybot's part doesnt do any of these whats. just putting a circle 1/4 after these makes children around the world happy. even just adding a reverse is better. ya know basically any other rhythm >
  14. 02:54:858 (1) - way easier to interpret the gap when like belh
  15. 02:50:429 (3,4) - 02:57:572 (3) - 03:05:429 (4) - 03:06:429 (2) - 03:11:001 (2) - etc not going to list everything but like the only sound that's not repetitive 1/1 is the synth (what you hitsounded with whistles) and when you're putting those on slidertails it sounds like you're just ignoring the actual song. i get that there are sounds everywhere but that doesnt mean lolrhythms anything works. it's probably too much effort to adjust but just keep in mind that i will always think it's gross
  16. 03:07:429 (7,1) - 02:46:858 (9,1) - comboz should be swapped rite
  17. 03:50:287 (1) - p sure you'd wanna cut off that last repeat cuz yes
[extra]
  1. 03:17:715 (6) - press Q i dare you
  2. 02:11:287 (3,1,2) - super awkward angle holy
  3. 00:26:001 (6,7,8) - niceblanket stack breaks everything
  4. 02:37:429 (4,1) - kinda deserves more empahsis than the standard spacing that you gave it. like over here is hot or anywhere further away really
  5. 03:19:144 (2,3) - 03:37:429 (2,3) - i dont understand these drum tail whatevers but they're not consistent so something's eh
idk
Topic Starter
Nathan
fixed everything from pishi and some other consistency stuff, will wait on toybot and mikii before changing OD settings
Mikii

pishifat wrote:

od on hardhyperinsane could be raised

[collab insane]
  1. 00:34:001 (1,2) - combos should prob be swapped like 00:43:144 (5) - 00:38:572 (5,1) - 00:52:287 (5) - ye
  2. 00:41:858 (4,5) - uh i see toybot just rejected this but it's pretty shit still
    Don't call it 'shit' because its on a red tick lol. Fixed thanks
  3. 00:42:787 (3) - there's nothing on the blue tick here that's more special than the white tick, so it just forces weird clicking emphasis. 2 circles >
    Theres nothing wrong with this kickslider imo
  4. 01:33:715 (3) - should have a new combo because reasons dont make me explain
  5. 01:35:572 (4,1,2) - 01:38:429 (2) - starting these on the red ticks makes no sense. white ticks have all the emphasis here.
    You're right, these play much better than red ticks, thanks
    01:35:287 (3) - 01:37:572 (3) - these are fine since there's that beepsomething sound to map out, but like other stuff is following nothing with strong stuff on tails
  6. 01:53:358 (2) - same as the other blue-tick-1/4-slider except htis one is even more misleading beacuse spacing looks easily like any other 1/4 jumps from 1/4 sliders
  7. 01:55:215 (2) - im dying there isnt even a sound on that blue tick
    Wub
  8. 01:57:858 (2) - 01:59:001 (1) - o k notice how toybot's part doesnt do any of these whats. just putting a circle 1/4 after these makes children around the world happy. even just adding a reverse is better. ya know basically any other rhythm >
    I made the children happy
  9. 02:54:858 (1) - way easier to interpret the gap when like belh
    Nice
  10. 02:50:429 (3,4) - 02:57:572 (3) - 03:05:429 (4) - 03:06:429 (2) - 03:11:001 (2) - etc not going to list everything but like the only sound that's not repetitive 1/1 is the synth (what you hitsounded with whistles) and when you're putting those on slidertails it sounds like you're just ignoring the actual song. i get that there are sounds everywhere but that doesnt mean lolrhythms anything works. it's probably too much effort to adjust but just keep in mind that i will always think it's gross
    You're right, the whistle hitsound is quite random and I don't know what i was thinking :cry: changed to follow the song much better
  11. 03:07:429 (7,1) - 02:46:858 (9,1) - comboz should be swapped rite
    Keeping it neat here really

idk
No comment = fixed
Ty :3 Pls b more gentle next time. Toybot will finish things from here
Loony
Hello there, I'm here from your M4M queue. I'm only here for a ticket, which I understand as a future BN mod, I can use anytime, right? Sorry for my understanding lvl btw. I modded only first three diffs, because in higher diffs I think I wouldn't as help, as make it just worse cause they are all alright, gj. Hope so it's okay then!

[General]
  1. Maybe I'm blink, but where's a storyboard? Cause you have Widescreen Support turned on, and as I know, it's only for storyboarded maps... i think. So if I'm right, turn it off.
[Easy]

  • only estetical problems I found here
  1. 00:13:715 (1,2) - Maybe make them the same, but rotated? I think it will look better, just esteticly.
  2. 00:37:715 (2,3) - I don't really like this pattern. It's not a blanket, not an easy flow, idk. I think you should change it in some way, so maybe easy flow?
  3. 00:43:429 (1,2) - I think these two symetrical sliders should be perfectly in the mid. I mean, move them both to: x:52 y:252 and see what I mean.
  4. 00:51:429 (2) - For making a perfect flow, I'd rotate it by selection point: -10 .
  5. 01:02:858 (2,1) - Make the second part of the first slider parallel to the next, straight slider. It's just estetical fix.
  6. 01:15:429 (1,2) - The end of the slider isn't perfectly directed to the second note, that's what I mean while saying 'perfect flow problem'. So I'd fix it.
  7. 02:38:572 (2,3) - ^
  8. 02:54:858 (3,4) - ^
  9. 03:08:572 (2,3) - ^
  10. 03:15:429 (2) - I'd rotate this slider by the selection point: -16. Imo it will look better, symetrically is better I think.
  11. 03:23:429 (1,2,3) - Perfect flow problem with two sliders, both straight and curved. I'd fix it.
[-kevincela-'s Normal]

  • only the blankets problems here
  1. 00:57:715 (2,3) - There's a double blanket problem with these sliders, so fix it.
  2. 01:01:144 (5,1,2,1) - They also need a blanket fixing.
  3. 01:17:001 (3,1) - In here there's just a little, but still an estetic problem with blanket.
  4. 01:35:429 (4,1) - Just like here.
  5. 02:38:858 (3,4) - They can be improved too.
  6. 03:02:001 (4,5) - Blanket fix again.
  7. 03:20:858 (5,1) - ^
  8. 03:22:287 (4,1) - ^
  9. 03:37:144 (1,3) - ^
[Hard]

  • blankets and blankets again
  1. 00:58:287 (1,2) - Maybe a blanket? It will just look better imo.
  2. 01:46:287 (1,3) - The same as here?
  3. 01:49:715 (1,2) - Fix the double blanket. It's just for estetical reasons.
  4. 01:54:287 (1,2) - ^
Sorry for such a primitive mod, but I think these easier difficulties also need some care, don't they?
Mapset is great, the song awesome - good luck!
Topic Starter
Nathan

Loony wrote:

Hello there, I'm here from your M4M queue. I'm only here for a ticket, which I understand as a future BN mod, I can use anytime, right? Sorry for my understanding lvl btw. I modded only first three diffs, because in higher diffs I think I wouldn't as help, as make it just worse cause they are all alright, gj. Hope so it's okay then! np, and yes you can use it anytime

[General]
  1. Maybe I'm blink, but where's a storyboard? Cause you have Widescreen Support turned on, and as I know, it's only for storyboarded maps... i think. So if I'm right, turn it off. will fix once I receive all the difficulties
[Easy]

  • only estetical problems I found here
  1. 00:13:715 (1,2) - Maybe make them the same, but rotated? I think it will look better, just esteticly. it's fine
  2. 00:37:715 (2,3) - I don't really like this pattern. It's not a blanket, not an easy flow, idk. I think you should change it in some way, so maybe easy flow? it flows fine
  3. 00:43:429 (1,2) - I think these two symetrical sliders should be perfectly in the mid. I mean, move them both to: x:52 y:252 and see what I mean. can't because of ds
  4. 00:51:429 (2) - For making a perfect flow, I'd rotate it by selection point: -10 . flows fine
  5. 01:02:858 (2,1) - Make the second part of the first slider parallel to the next, straight slider. It's just estetical fix. ok
  6. 01:15:429 (1,2) - The end of the slider isn't perfectly directed to the second note, that's what I mean while saying 'perfect flow problem'. So I'd fix it. it doesn't need to be 100% direct, sliders are lenient enough for this
  7. 02:38:572 (2,3) - ^ ^
  8. 02:54:858 (3,4) - ^ ^
  9. 03:08:572 (2,3) - ^ ^
  10. 03:15:429 (2) - I'd rotate this slider by the selection point: -16. Imo it will look better, symetrically is better I think.need consistent spacing
  11. 03:23:429 (1,2,3) - Perfect flow problem with two sliders, both straight and curved. I'd fix it. it's fine
[Hard]

  • blankets and blankets again
  1. 00:58:287 (1,2) - Maybe a blanket? It will just look better imo. ok
  2. 01:46:287 (1,3) - The same as here? would be an awkward angle
  3. 01:49:715 (1,2) - Fix the double blanket. It's just for estetical reasons. these weren't intended to be blankets, distance snap doesn't allow me
  4. 01:54:287 (1,2) - ^ ^
Sorry for such a primitive mod, but I think these easier difficulties also need some care, don't they?
Mapset is great, the song awesome - good luck!
thanks for the mod
Peachtrees
  • o boi

    from Q

    Hard
  1. 00:18:715 (2,3) - DS is messed up for these
  2. 01:05:644 (3) - circle here really neccessary? imo the sound this lands on is barely audible at all so idk if this really call for clickable 1/4 idk I'd personally prefer to just focus on what feels strong in the song instead this just feels unneccessarily hard. oh and this is not mapped in the Hyper and the Collab Insane so yeaahhhh
  3. 01:39:144 (4,4) - imo could have both of these as circles, I think using 1/1 breaks for this helps making this feel a little less monotonous + they worked well for the previous patterns like 00:23:715 (3,1) - . currently 01:38:287 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - all of this is 1/2 I think this is a little boring
  4. 01:50:715 (4) - perhaps space this out properly? very minor but easy to fix and semi noticeable
  5. 01:59:858 (4,1) - spacing?
  6. 02:01:144 (1,2,3) - very minor, but would rather give this a curve like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440385 to make it less jiggly
  7. 02:58:287 (1,2) - this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440427 is kinda ugly due to autostack or w.e. it's called
  8. 03:03:429 (3) - missing hitsound
  9. 03:21:572 (2) - honestly don't really like the second repeat here as it makes the strong sound on the white tick well uuh land on the repeat. a circle and a 1/2 would be more fitting I think
  10. 03:34:144 (2) - could really see a soft-whistle work here for the piano

    Hyper
  11. 01:38:287 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - could turn one or two of these into circle to have the rythm more dense than the Hard Diff, would also help with not having this less repetetive
  12. 01:47:144 (6,1) - would be pretty neat if there were some mini jumps between stuff like this too, I mean I guess this is me being very subjective but I think this calls for a mini jump a lot more than 01:52:858 (4,1) - does eeeeh might just be me I guess
  13. 03:09:429 (4,5,6,1) - DS here is kinda messed up due to the autostack thingy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440535
  14. 03:13:429 (2,3) - would personally rather have this stacked, as it makes the whole thing a lot easier to catch since this gets rid of a lot of sharp angels within the pattern. I mean 03:13:144 (1,2,3) - is pretty much a straight drop-off already, and then 03:13:572 (3,4,5) - isn't exactly smooth either since the player was moving down straight for the previous pattern this requires another rather harsh turn
  15. 03:34:144 (2) - same as above

    Collab Insane
  16. 00:19:287 (5,1) - no 100% sure about having these as close, I !!think!! I get the idea behind forcing the player to slow down here, though i can see this being really off-putting since I think having atleast some distance between these would be a lot more intuive. something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440613 would still force the player to slow down, but in a less sudden way I think. anyhow would keep an eye on this
  17. 00:37:144 (4) - ctrl+g on this would flow better I think. Would have to do something to the next slider too though :/
  18. 00:39:429 (4) - why not have the red anchor point upwards? makes it easier to catch
  19. 01:22:572 (2,3,5,6,7,1) - pretty minor, but you could line these three up for some extra...neatness ><
  20. 01:40:144 (5,6) - de-creasing the spacing by this much doesn't really make a lot of sense to me when this feels just as strong as the previous notes :c
  21. 01:47:858 (3,1) - I think a bit more distance when going into these 1/4's is nicer to play, so I'd consider moving 3 somewhere else to create said distance (perhaps just move it below 1 instead of stacking it)
  22. 02:46:429 (4,5) - aren't these a little close? I mean it's not like having them close than the previous jumps is bad but this really just feels a little too close
  23. 03:06:001 (7,1) - jump here feels a little forced, perhaps because the player doesn't have a lot of momentum when going into this. idk might just be me, but could possible just space out previous pattern a little more for more momentum

    Extra
  24. 00:30:858 (1,2,3,4) - feels a bit weird to have such a sharp and riggid movement between 1 and 2 but then have a 3 and 4 line up. Would perhaps just do https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440742 which would sorta keep the sharp angles going which overall would be a more fitting
  25. 00:36:001 (5,6) - feels too close with how very jumpy the previous pattern was, makes the transition into the triangle feel a bit clunky
  26. 00:45:287 (5,1) - would play abit nicer if the angle between these was a little sharper I think, could achieve this by moving 1 down a bit
  27. 01:14:001 (9,10) - imo if 10 was moved up a bit to make the angle between 9 and 10 less sharp that'd be more comfortable to play. would have to slightly re-arrange the following slider so idk if you dun feel like it dun bother (or could possibly just keep them a bit more spaced out as the downbeat actually warrant a minor jump here I THINK)
  28. 01:14:715 (4,1) - feels better if these are lined up like you did with your second DU DU pattern
  29. 02:02:001 (4,5,1,2) - could see something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440883 work well here, flows a tad bit nicer than the current pattern I htink
  30. 02:49:429 (2,3) - a little clunky I think sincet he player doesn't actually follow the sliders bu rather stays stationary due to how the stream is positioned, which I think is not really going along well with the speed-up in the song
  31. 02:59:501 (2,3) - kinda minor, but perhaps fix the spacing on this? (unless the uneven spacing is intentional)
  32. 03:01:144 (5,6) - ^
  33. 03:12:858 (7,8,9) - perhaps make this look like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440920? I don't really think a subtle curve here for either the slider or the two circles really does anything but make this play a little more jiggly which i don't think really serves any purpose
  34. 03:53:144 (1,2) - isn't it a bit weird to have a jump between 1 and 2 and the downbeat is the thing that would call for more emphasize? I mean 1 and 3 both have these peaks on them while the sound 2 lands on is really weak in comparison

    [u]RLC's Paroxysm /u]
  35. 00:49:858 (6,7,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440999 something like this for proper emphasize one the 'OWW'? dunno
  36. 03:19:287 (4) - is putting the white tick on a repeat here really the way to go about this? it's stronger than the surrounding red ticks so having this clickable would be more fitting I think. 03:37:572 (4) - Same idea for this one

    yee really all I can kinda think of without pulling stuff outta my ass

    Good Luck!
-kevincela-
Fixed all the blankets except the last one since i didn't plan it to actually be a blanket.
Thanks!

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376,156,130287,6,0,B|352:228|352:228|364:364,1,200,4|8,1:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
256,332,131144,1,2,3:2:0:0:
149,351,131429,6,0,B|157:258|157:258|139:204,1,150,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
116,164,132001,2,0,L|224:168,1,100,8|0,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,72,132572,6,0,L|72:68,2,75,0|0|2,1:0|0:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
208,56,133144,2,0,B|244:52|244:52|268:60|268:60|320:56,1,100,8|2,2:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
416,36,133715,5,0,1:0:0:0:
408,144,134001,1,0,1:0:0:0:
400,252,134287,2,0,L|392:352,1,100,8|2,2:0|2:2,0:0:0:0:
300,296,134858,6,0,B|232:288|232:288|176:304|176:304|84:296,1,200,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,208,135715,1,2,3:2:0:0:
119,125,136001,6,0,B|167:120|167:120|215:132|215:132|266:126,1,150,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
308,108,136572,2,0,L|300:212,1,100,8|2,2:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
216,280,137144,6,0,P|360:300|404:168,1,300,4|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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188,80,138715,2,0,P|136:68|52:116,1,150,0|0,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
144,180,139429,5,4,1:0:0:0:
256,192,153144,12,0,156501,0:0:0:0:
92,56,157715,6,0,B|96:120|96:120|132:172|132:172|136:248,1,200,6|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
220,316,158572,1,2,1:1:0:0:
316,260,158858,2,0,P|356:248|416:264,1,100,4|2,1:2|1:1,0:0:0:0:
460,360,159429,2,0,P|420:372|360:356,1,100,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
316,260,160001,6,0,L|320:92,2,150,2|2|2,1:1|0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
220,316,161144,1,4,1:2:0:0:
112,296,161429,1,2,1:1:0:0:
60,200,161715,2,0,P|56:144|80:84,1,100,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
168,56,162287,6,0,L|284:52,1,100,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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512,248,163715,1,2,1:1:0:0:
444,332,164001,2,0,L|344:328,1,100,2|2,1:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
248,380,164572,6,0,P|236:336|252:276,1,100,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
268,244,165001,2,0,L|96:232,1,150,2|2,0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
44,152,165715,1,2,1:1:0:0:
72,44,166001,1,2,1:1:0:0:
180,72,166287,2,0,P|227:77|284:59,1,100,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
380,28,166858,6,0,L|392:232,1,200,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
324,312,167715,1,2,1:0:0:0:
220,276,168001,2,0,P|168:272|120:292,1,100,4|2,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
28,344,168572,2,0,L|20:240,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
72,148,169144,6,0,B|92:68|52:84|72:-4,2,150,2|2|2,1:0|0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
20,244,170287,2,0,P|64:260|100:308,1,100,4|2,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
192,244,170858,2,0,P|172:201|182:141,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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216,244,172858,1,2,1:0:0:0:
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256,156,175287,1,4,1:2:0:0:
339,85,175572,2,0,L|389:92,2,50,4|0|4,1:2|1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
184,32,176287,5,4,1:0:0:0:
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349,382,179429,1,4,1:2:0:0:
324,276,179715,1,2,1:0:0:0:
428,308,180001,2,0,P|432:264|408:204,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
360,116,180572,6,0,L|252:112,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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192,200,181429,2,0,L|84:196,1,100,2|4,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
8,268,182001,1,2,1:0:0:0:
40,372,182287,2,0,P|84:348|113:300,1,100,2|2,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
92,196,182858,6,0,L|100:88,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
64,68,183287,2,0,B|144:84|128:56|216:72,1,150,2|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
316,112,184001,1,2,1:0:0:0:
416,68,184287,1,2,1:0:0:0:
408,176,184572,2,0,P|416:228|444:272,1,100,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
508,356,185144,6,0,L|304:348,1,200,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
232,268,186001,1,2,1:0:0:0:
128,304,186287,2,0,P|68:300|24:268,1,100,4|2,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
4,176,186858,2,0,P|37:126|87:103,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
180,120,187429,6,0,P|176:72|104:4,2,150,2|2|2,1:0|0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
108,204,188572,1,4,1:2:0:0:
216,220,188858,1,2,1:0:0:0:
324,232,189144,2,0,B|332:348,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
428,280,189715,6,0,B|421:180,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
444,140,190144,2,0,B|396:148|396:148|340:136,1,100,2|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,124,190572,2,0,B|256:116|256:116|200:128,1,100,2|4,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
120,200,191144,1,2,1:0:0:0:
48,116,191429,1,2,1:0:0:0:
132,48,191715,1,2,1:0:0:0:
205,126,192001,6,0,P|228:168|232:232,1,100,2|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
220,264,192429,2,0,L|380:256,1,150,2|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
444,176,193144,6,0,L|448:108,1,50,4|4,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
376,44,193572,1,4,1:2:0:0:
296,120,193858,2,0,L|298:169,2,50,4|2|6,1:2|1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
268,84,194287,6,0,P|224:104|88:48,1,200,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
24,140,195144,1,2,1:2:0:0:
100,220,195429,2,0,B|208:252|184:196|316:232,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,196287,1,2,1:2:0:0:
484,344,196572,6,0,P|492:284|392:184,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,197429,1,2,1:2:0:0:
297,226,197715,2,0,P|275:297|301:366,2,150,4|2|2,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
384,296,198858,6,0,P|452:272|476:152,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
412,68,199715,1,2,1:2:0:0:
316,120,200001,2,0,L|320:184,2,50,2|2|0,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
216,72,200572,1,2,1:2:0:0:
116,120,200858,1,2,1:2:0:0:
12,80,201144,6,0,P|4:128|32:192,1,100,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
108,248,201715,2,0,L|220:240,1,100,0|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
244,256,202144,1,0,0:2:0:0:
284,272,202287,2,0,P|352:276|416:208,2,150,2|2|2,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
320,168,203429,6,0,P|396:120|500:168,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
410,224,204287,1,2,1:2:0:0:
312,272,204572,2,0,P|264:256|224:208,1,100,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
232,112,205144,2,0,P|269:78|331:67,1,100,0|2,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
320,168,205715,6,0,L|116:156,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
56,244,206572,1,2,1:2:0:0:
4,148,206858,2,0,P|16:100|100:40,2,150,4|2|2,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
56,244,208001,6,0,P|128:272|228:208,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
256,108,208858,1,2,1:2:0:0:
180,28,209144,2,0,P|152:68|152:136,1,100,2|0,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
256,108,209715,2,0,L|368:96,1,100,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
464,84,210287,5,2,1:2:0:0:
420,184,210572,2,0,P|416:236|432:304,1,100,4|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
448,324,211001,2,0,L|340:320,1,100,4|2,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
304,336,211429,1,4,1:2:0:0:
204,288,211715,1,2,1:2:0:0:
100,328,212001,2,0,P|79:344|60:368,2,50,0|2|4,1:0|1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
204,288,212572,6,0,B|200:216|200:216|220:164|220:164|216:88,1,200,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
132,20,213429,1,2,1:2:0:0:
42,87,213715,2,0,P|128:132|215:91,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
304,24,214572,1,2,1:2:0:0:
376,108,214858,6,0,B|380:180|380:180|360:232|360:232|364:308,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
272,364,215715,1,2,1:2:0:0:
172,316,216001,2,0,P|104:308|24:352,2,150,4|2|2,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
272,364,217144,6,0,P|368:356|424:260,1,200,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
424,164,218001,1,2,1:2:0:0:
328,216,218287,2,0,L|304:276,2,50,2|2|0,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
332,108,218858,1,2,1:2:0:0:
236,160,219144,1,2,1:2:0:0:
132,120,219429,6,0,P|108:88|96:16,1,100,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
204,36,220001,2,0,L|312:32,1,100,0|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
344,52,220429,1,0,0:2:0:0:
384,72,220572,2,0,B|388:124|388:124|376:164|376:164|380:232,2,150,2|2|2,1:2|0:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
488,40,221715,6,0,L|496:144,1,100,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,244,222287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,348,222572,1,2,0:2:0:0:
380,320,222858,6,0,L|276:316,1,100,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,276,223429,1,0,0:0:0:0:
76,316,223715,1,2,0:2:0:0:
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184,56,224572,2,0,L|191:155,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
292,200,225144,2,0,P|348:204|436:148,2,150,4|2|2,0:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
191,155,226287,6,0,P|103:159|48:264,1,200,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
52,356,227144,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,304,227429,6,0,B|260:296|224:348|360:336,1,200,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,296,228287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,204,228572,6,0,P|372:164|388:96,1,100,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,56,229144,2,0,P|492:96|476:164,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
384,204,229715,2,0,B|280:200|280:200|196:152|196:152|88:148,1,300,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,236,230858,6,0,L|36:336,1,100,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,356,231287,2,0,B|120:340|120:340|184:352,1,100,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,260,232001,6,0,B|356:276|356:276|408:266,1,100,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,236,232429,2,0,L|436:136,1,100,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,92,232858,1,0,0:0:0:0:
356,28,233144,6,0,B|304:32|304:32|256:64,1,100,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,88,233572,2,0,B|180:84|180:84|132:52,1,100,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,156,234287,6,0,L|12:264,1,100,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,288,234715,2,0,B|83:261|83:261|135:257,1,100,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,272,235144,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,312,235429,6,0,L|392:304,1,100,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,320,235858,2,0,B|416:272|416:272|424:216,1,100,4|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,60,236572,6,0,L|340:68,1,100,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,52,237001,2,0,B|316:100|316:100|308:156,1,100,4|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,192,237429,1,0,1:0:0:0:
188,228,237715,6,0,L|80:220,1,100,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,244,238144,2,0,P|44:304|60:344,1,100,4|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,360,238572,2,0,L|208:352,1,100,0|4,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,239001,12,0,240001,3:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Nathan

Peachtrees wrote:



  • Hard
  1. 00:18:715 (2,3) - DS is messed up for these seems fine to me? o.o
  2. 01:05:644 (3) - circle here really neccessary? imo the sound this lands on is barely audible at all so idk if this really call for clickable 1/4 idk I'd personally prefer to just focus on what feels strong in the song instead this just feels unneccessarily hard. oh and this is not mapped in the Hyper and the Collab Insane so yeaahhhh I think it's ok, I made sure to put only a few 1/4 circles this entire diff, and I wanted one here since it was an important part build up going into the kiai
  3. 01:39:144 (4,4) - imo could have both of these as circles, I think using 1/1 breaks for this helps making this feel a little less monotonous + they worked well for the previous patterns like 00:23:715 (3,1) - . currently 01:38:287 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - all of this is 1/2 I think this is a little boring I think it feels more strange just ignoring 1/2 beats like that, even if it's consistent, the 1/1 break you highlighted wasn't omitting any beats
  4. 01:50:715 (4) - perhaps space this out properly? very minor but easy to fix and semi noticeable ok
  5. 01:59:858 (4,1) - spacing? fixed
  6. 02:01:144 (1,2,3) - very minor, but would rather give this a curve like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440385 to make it less jiggly done
  7. 02:58:287 (1,2) - this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440427 is kinda ugly due to autostack or w.e. it's called well it's not a big deal, I'd need to move a bunch of other objects just to fix this and I'm lazy lel
  8. 03:03:429 (3) - missing hitsound good catch
  9. 03:21:572 (2) - honestly don't really like the second repeat here as it makes the strong sound on the white tick well uuh land on the repeat. a circle and a 1/2 would be more fitting I think fixed and in another spot
  10. 03:34:144 (2) - could really see a soft-whistle work here for the piano added

    Hyper
  11. 01:38:287 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - could turn one or two of these into circle to have the rythm more dense than the Hard Diff, would also help with not having this less repetetive done
  12. 01:47:144 (6,1) - would be pretty neat if there were some mini jumps between stuff like this too, I mean I guess this is me being very subjective but I think this calls for a mini jump a lot more than 01:52:858 (4,1) - does eeeeh might just be me I guess wait that jump was an accident LOL
  13. 03:09:429 (4,5,6,1) - DS here is kinda messed up due to the autostack thingy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440535 it's fine
  14. 03:13:429 (2,3) - would personally rather have this stacked, as it makes the whole thing a lot easier to catch since this gets rid of a lot of sharp angels within the pattern. I mean 03:13:144 (1,2,3) - is pretty much a straight drop-off already, and then 03:13:572 (3,4,5) - isn't exactly smooth either since the player was moving down straight for the previous pattern this requires another rather harsh turn stacking two different beats like that would be unintuitive, also judging from how close 03:13:572 (3,4) these are the player will probably leave the slider early and turn at a right angle, plays fine imo
  15. 03:34:144 (2) - same as above wait wat
    Extra
  16. 00:30:858 (1,2,3,4) - feels a bit weird to have such a sharp and riggid movement between 1 and 2 but then have a 3 and 4 line up. Would perhaps just do https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440742 which would sorta keep the sharp angles going which overall would be a more fitting I think it's fine with slider leniency since the head of 1 is very close to 2, plus this would create a randomly large jump to 5
  17. 00:36:001 (5,6) - feels too close with how very jumpy the previous pattern was, makes the transition into the triangle feel a bit clunky changed
  18. 00:45:287 (5,1) - would play abit nicer if the angle between these was a little sharper I think, could achieve this by moving 1 down a bit
  19. 01:14:001 (9,10) - imo if 10 was moved up a bit to make the angle between 9 and 10 less sharp that'd be more comfortable to play. would have to slightly re-arrange the following slider so idk if you dun feel like it dun bother (or could possibly just keep them a bit more spaced out as the downbeat actually warrant a minor jump here I THINK) meh I just completely changed the pattern cuz this always sucked
  20. 01:14:715 (4,1) - feels better if these are lined up like you did with your second DU DU pattern DU DU
  21. 02:02:001 (4,5,1,2) - could see something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440883 work well here, flows a tad bit nicer than the current pattern I htink nah the pattern formed a triangle with the heads and circle, only thing that matters with 1/4 sliders is the head due to their leniency, I changed the pattern to something else though since I found another error in it
  22. 02:49:429 (2,3) - a little clunky I think sincet he player doesn't actually follow the sliders bu rather stays stationary due to how the stream is positioned, which I think is not really going along well with the speed-up in the song fixed
  23. 02:59:501 (2,3) - kinda minor, but perhaps fix the spacing on this? (unless the uneven spacing is intentional) ok
  24. 03:01:144 (5,6) - ^ just fixed the entire stream lol
  25. 03:12:858 (7,8,9) - perhaps make this look like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440920? I don't really think a subtle curve here for either the slider or the two circles really does anything but make this play a little more jiggly which i don't think really serves any purpose I think the curve looks a bit nicer, doesn't make much of a difference either way
  26. 03:53:144 (1,2) - isn't it a bit weird to have a jump between 1 and 2 and the downbeat is the thing that would call for more emphasize? I mean 1 and 3 both have these peaks on them while the sound 2 lands on is really weak in comparison fixed

    yee really all I can kinda think of without pulling stuff outta my ass

    Good Luck!
ty for the helpful mod~
toybot

pishifat wrote:

od on hardhyperinsane could be raised

[collab insane]
  1. 00:18:572 (2) - spacing from 1->2 should be smaller than 2->3 like 00:16:001 (1,2,3) - 00:14:858 (1,2,3) - . works stacking 2 under 6 or something inconsistency sucks - ok dad
  2. 01:01:572 - super loud kick why is this being ignored something like thisworks or anything esle idk - i have bad ears
  3. 01:02:001 (2,4,5,6) - manually stack stuff like 00:46:429 (4,1) - both are on screen same time and looks like balls - ok dad
  4. 01:10:001 (2) - dont really get why some of these ignore the loud beep but idk - to set up the 1/2 rhythm that's like 01:10:287 (3,4,5) -
  5. 01:24:715 (1) - id understand ending the spinner at 02:19:572 (1) - on low volume since the song is way quieter but there's stuff going on for this one so raise volumeszsz - ok dad
  6. 03:50:287 (1) - p sure you'd wanna cut off that last repeat cuz yes - yes dad thanks dad
idk

Peachtrees wrote:

  • o boi

    from Q

    Collab Insane
  1. 00:19:287 (5,1) - no 100% sure about having these as close, I !!think!! I get the idea behind forcing the player to slow down here, though i can see this being really off-putting since I think having atleast some distance between these would be a lot more intuive. something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3440613 would still force the player to slow down, but in a less sudden way I think. anyhow would keep an eye on this - fixed
  2. 01:22:572 (2,3,5,6,7,1) - pretty minor, but you could line these three up for some extra...neatness >< - lo l ok

    yee really all I can kinda think of without pulling stuff outta my ass

    Good Luck!
deleted is mikii's

thx guys https://0paste.tk/7733.txt
Mikii

Peachtrees wrote:

  • o boi

    Collab Insane
  1. 00:37:144 (4) - ctrl+g on this would flow better I think. Would have to do something to the next slider too though :/
    Nice triangle formation
  2. 00:39:429 (4) - why not have the red anchor point upwards? makes it easier to catch
    Tbh I don't like this red anchor anymore so I'll change it regardless
  3. 01:40:144 (5,6) - de-creasing the spacing by this much doesn't really make a lot of sense to me when this feels just as strong as the previous notes :c
  4. 01:47:858 (3,1) - I think a bit more distance when going into these 1/4's is nicer to play, so I'd consider moving 3 somewhere else to create said distance (perhaps just move it below 1 instead of stacking it)
    I intentionally made these without the use of distance to create a distinct feeling. I don't think its too uncomfortable and I think they add quite a challenge to the dubstep part
  5. 02:46:429 (4,5) - aren't these a little close? I mean it's not like having them close than the previous jumps is bad but this really just feels a little too close
    I like it visually and I've added enough parts that have distance. The challenge here comes from the stream i guess :/
  6. 03:06:001 (7,1) - jump here feels a little forced, perhaps because the player doesn't have a lot of momentum when going into this. idk might just be me, but could possible just space out previous pattern a little more for more momentum
    I intentionally made the stack with the circle and slider to allow a jump like this and I don't think it ruins the momentum too much

    Good Luck!
No comment = fixed
Thanks for the lovely mod <3
RLC
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Peachtrees:
03:19:287 (4) - it's for the really faint low piano--also, putting it this way makes the subsequent higher piano stand out way more!

CelsiusLK:
02:19:287 (2,3) - I like this order a bit more D:

Pho:
01:01:787 (2) - er i'm not sure what you mean (i've put it like this because i want emphasis on 1 and 6)
01:37:144 (1,2) - yeah I like the circles :^)
01:41:358 (4) - I think it's okay to start this stream on a blue tick. I mean, most streams exiting 1/2-length sliders start on a blue tick, but they are able to be hit just fine, because the leading finger ends up hitting the white ticks anyway
01:51:572 (1,1) - oh that was because of the slight pitch increase
as usual, anything not mentioned was fixed. thanks for the mods!
ggogogogogoggog
Nuolong
good luck >w< star
Little
From my queue.

[General]
  1. Difficulty gap between Hyper and Insane is too large, mostly because of rhythmic complexity. The rhythms in Hyper are very straightforward and simple, while the rhythms in Insane are much more complex.
[Easy]
  1. 00:37:715 (2,3,1) - The movement here is awkward, as the flow changes concavity twice within a very short distance. Suggestion: http://puu.sh/ji0m8/ae3470fc40.jpg
  2. 00:56:001 (2,3,1) - Flow here feels rigid and uncomfortable. Consider moving (3) downward to create a rounder motion.
  3. 00:56:858 (3) - I think normal-hitnormal would fit well here.
  4. 01:00:572 (2) - A 1/1 reverse slider would provide a more suitable rhythm here.
  5. 01:11:715 (2,3) - Flow could be improved by transforming (3) such that the movement from (2) matches its curve: http://puu.sh/ji0Kv/f48662c2d2.jpg
  6. 02:37:429 (1) - Pickup is too hard for beginners to anticipate without a solid background beat leading into it. I recommend removing this circle.
  7. 02:43:429 (2,3,1) - Flow feels too rigid here. It would play more comfortably if the motion was rounder. I recommend adjusting the placement such that (3) is on a curve: http://puu.sh/ji16r/fb46916509.jpg
  8. 03:17:715 (2,1) - Blanket is noticeably uneven, and draws attention. Try to make it more even.
  9. 03:20:572 (3,1) - Flow is awkward because (1) cuts to the outside relative the the expected curve based on the movement between (2,3,1): http://puu.sh/ji1uD/d29b1d25dd.jpg Try not to push outward so much. Rotating (1) counterclockwise would help.
  10. The map lacks memorable patterns and shapes, making it uninteresting to play. Patterns and special slider shapes could be used to add structure to the map, and help give more contrast and definition for the different sections of the song. For example, the same kinds of shapes and rhythms are used at the sections 01:33:715 and 01:42:858 while the music is markedly different.
[-kevincela-'s Normal]
  1. 01:04:572 (2,3) - I recommend unstacking these, as it makes the rhythm more obvious, matching previous instances of the rhythm.

    Great map.
[Hard]
  1. 00:50:715 (2) - Flows nicer if you change the direction like this: http://puu.sh/ji3tm/51315ae762.jpg
  2. 00:52:287 (4,1) - I recommend unstacking these. You've used stacks with 1/2 beat and 1/1 beat earlier in the map, and 3/2 is unexpected. Unless the player is already familiar with the song, he/she is likely to assume the beat spacing is 1/1 because of the downbeat.
  3. Pretty much the same problem as Easy. The map lacks structure because every part feels the same. In many cases, sections could be made more distinct and the map integrated better with the music. Lower slider velocity could be used in some sections like 01:33:715 to reflect the heavier feel.
[Hyper]
  1. There's nothing to say. This map is the same as Hard, but with higher slider velocity.
[Collab Insane]
  1. 00:20:287 (1) - I think the movement pattern here would feel more dramatic if you changed the direction: http://puu.sh/ji5mL/d337637dc2.jpg Up to you of course. I just think it's cool that way.
  2. 01:44:572 (4) - I think a slower slider velocity would be more appropriate to match the heavier feeling of this note.

    Cool map.
[Extra]
  1. 00:52:287 (1) - Length is similar to that of the preceding sliders, which had higher velocity. It's easy for this to confuse the player into clicking the next slider early. As a solution, I propose stacking or overlapping the head of the next slider under the tail of this one. It makes the rhythm more obvious and also goes well with the stop/start feel of emphasizing beat two over the downbeat.
  2. 03:39:429 (1,2,3) - I don't understand why you used this jump at (2,3). It doesn't seem appropriate to emphasize (3) so strongly this way. Actually, I think it would be nice if you brought out the hemiola by pushing more on the groups of three notes as heard in the keyboard instrument.

    Good job.
[RLC's Paroxysm]
  1. 03:19:001 (2,3,4) - The flow here just feels a bit awkward to me. I think it would be better if you swapped the placement of (2,3).

    gr8. I r8 it 8/8 m8.
Good luck.
Topic Starter
Nathan
fixed everything from the mod and also added a significant amount of quints+3/4 rhythms to hyper, spread should be fine now
also I agree my lower diffs suck in terms of design/creativity, but oh well they're passable so I'll take it ;w;
VINXIS


i want more than 50 kd

General

  1. soft-hitclap w/o delay which is litearlly the sAME THING AS normal-hitclap
  2. ur soft-hitnormal sounds like ass cuz there's literally no transient to it what the FUCK go fuk urselv
  3. first greenline @ same time as timing point is as useless as life
Monstrata
[Easy]

  1. 00:14:858 (2,2) - I really don't think this kind of overlap is good on an Easy xP. I think you can fix these overlaps quite easily. This is quite early on in the song, so moving some of the earlier sliders elsewhere instead of moving later sliders could resolve this solution. There are over overlaps here too but this one's the most noticeable. See if you can rearrange this pattern a bit? Because it really looks like you ran out of space xP.
  2. 02:42:287 (1,2) - Could fix this blanket.
  3. 02:54:572 (2,4) - Is it possible to avoid this overlap?
  4. 02:59:429 (2) - How about curving it downward instead of upward?
  5. 03:14:287 (1,1) - You could move them a bit so that theres like an equal DS between the slider-end and slider head of these two sliders. Would look neater.
  6. 03:57:715 (4,1) - Are these NC's intentional? (4 should be NC'ed instead to follow the rhythm, but I can also see why you might want to NC like this, just double-checking)
[kevincela Normal]


  1. 00:30:287 - 00:34:001 - You NC every 2 measures here, but then switch to NC"ing every measure with 00:34:287 - 00:52:572 - And then after 00:52:572 - You swap back to every 2 measures... I think it's still better to NC every 2 measures and make this consistent. It will help players. You continue your 2/1 NC pattern in the Kiai so i think NC'ing every measure is
  2. 00:43:429 (1,1) - Fix this stack.
  3. 00:47:715 (2) - Maybe 1/2 slider instead?
  4. 01:58:858 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Same thing i mentioned earlier about NC pattern consistency. Here it's NC'ing every measure instead of 2/1, but the added NC really don't seem necessary since the combo's are like only 2 objects.
  5. 02:10:287 - 02:19:429 -
  6. 03:32:572 (1,3) - Fix these stacks
  7. 03:46:287 (1,2,1,2) - Well, here the NC's make sense with the growing intensity. How about continuing that pattern and NC'ing 03:49:715 (3) - ?
  8. 03:50:858 - Starting here though you go back to NC"ing every measure after the intense part is gone xPP.
[Hard]

  1. 00:32:429 (2,3,4) - Okay, here and 00:37:001 (2,3,4) - Are the only times you ever use this kind of rhythm with the 1/2 sliders on red ticks. I think Ctrl+G'ing them would be better cuz the sliders play quite weakly when you consider that the slider-ends land on stronger beats. I can see this rhythm becoming repetitive though, but I think if anything, try and choose a different (but better) rhythm before sticking with the current one.
  2. 00:47:715 (4) - Not going to make this like 1/4 repeats, or make the slidershape zigzag/cornered?
  3. 02:08:215 (2) - This triplet isn't very audible for me... You skip a lot of triplets which is fine for a Hard, but I think you should put the triplets on the most noticeable ones.
  4. 02:16:501 - No triplet here tho? ;o
  5. 03:38:858 (3,4) - Wanna fix the DS here? :D
  6. 03:46:858 (4,5) - And here~ both 1.13
  7. 03:48:287 (5,1) - And this DS? (unless this is intentional idk)
[Hyper]

  1. 00:25:144 (1) - 1/2 slider instead? D: This really lacks any emphasis.
  2. 00:31:929 (5) - This 1/4 felt kinda random since you don't use it in other sections like 00:33:072 - 00:36:501 - it seems like a one time thing that happens too infrequently D:.
  3. 00:47:715 (3) - Same as hard, just gonna leave it straight?
  4. 00:50:287 (1,2) - This spacing doesn't look intentional cuz you only put a jump from 2>3 on 00:54:858 (1,2,3) - 00:59:429 (1,2,3) -
  5. 01:24:001 (3,4) - I think you can use more 1/2 circle rhythm here. Defaulting to two 1/2 sliders all the time can get a bit repetitive, try replacing with 4 1/2 circles instead for some single tap?
  6. 02:04:001 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  7. 03:10:858 (1,2) - better to use normal DS Since you don't make these jumps 03:11:144 (2,3,4) - or any of the other emphasized notes that follow after.
  8. 03:46:287 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why not use 1.2x DS like you do with parts like 03:29:144 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - . Aren't they just as intense? ;o.
[Collab Insane]

  1. 00:20:001 (1,2,1,2) - Nothing wrong.
  2. 01:16:858 (2,3) - I think making this a jump would emphasize 3 better than stacking :P.
  3. 01:50:429 (2,3,4) - Wanna make their slider-heads linear? Right now 4 is overlapped a bit more than 3.
  4. 02:02:858 (1,1) - This overlap is really difficult to read for me ;c.
  5. 02:39:358 (3) - Can you make this triplet evenly spaced? :D.
  6. 02:44:858 (2,5) - And stack these?
Wooow good job toybot and Mikii, this Insane was really cool ;o Played surprisingly well for the amount of edgy overlappy patterns. And really well structured. Good job ;o.

I only rechecked Extra/Paroxysm and didn't find much worth commenting. However, I really need to point out that for me, there's a difficulty imbalance between the Collab Insane and Hyper. Hyper is almost completely DS-bound and uses a lot of 1/1 and 1/2 sliders instead of single-tapping circles. As well, 1/4 rhythm is only used occasionally, and when they are, the triplets/stream are usually stacked, not spaced. Collab Insane however, uses not only single tap jumps but quite a few kick sliders too, not to mention 1/8 rhythm. Streams (though none are really long) are also noticeably spaced rather than stacked. I think adding more 1/2 circles in place of long slider-rhythm could boost the intensity of Hyper even if you decide not to map jumps. There is also the issue of readability because from Hyper > Collab Insane the difficulty in reading the map also increases quite a bit.

Anyways, let me know what you think ;o. I think more opinions on the spread between Hyper > Collab Insane would be nice too, considering the jump in rhythm/readability/strain.
-kevincela-

CloudSplash16 wrote:

[-kevincela-'s Normal]
  1. 01:04:572 (2,3) - I recommend unstacking these, as it makes the rhythm more obvious, matching previous instances of the rhythm. Sure!

    Great map. Thanks :D

monstrata wrote:

[kevincela Normal]


  1. 00:30:287 - 00:34:001 - You NC every 2 measures here, but then switch to NC"ing every measure with 00:34:287 - 00:52:572 - And then after 00:52:572 - You swap back to every 2 measures... I think it's still better to NC every 2 measures and make this consistent. It will help players. You continue your 2/1 NC pattern in the Kiai so i think NC'ing every measure is Yeah, I was a bit careless about NCs while mapping tbh xD fixed
  2. 00:43:429 (1,1) - Fix this stack. ok
  3. 00:47:715 (2) - Maybe 1/2 slider instead? I think it suits better as a simple 1/1 note which denotes the transition between the two patterns here
  4. 01:58:858 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Same thing i mentioned earlier about NC pattern consistency. Here it's NC'ing every measure instead of 2/1, but the added NC really don't seem necessary since the combo's are like only 2 objects. Done
  5. 02:10:287 - 02:19:429 -
  6. 03:32:572 (1,3) - Fix these stacks Ok
  7. 03:46:287 (1,2,1,2) - Well, here the NC's make sense with the growing intensity. How about continuing that pattern and NC'ing 03:49:715 (3) - ? Done
  8. 03:50:858 - Starting here though you go back to NC"ing every measure after the intense part is gone xPP. It's the same pattern I've used at the beginning and it fits quite good, so I don't think i'll change these :P
Thanks!

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Topic Starter
Nathan

monstrata wrote:

[Hard]

  1. 00:32:429 (2,3,4) - Okay, here and 00:37:001 (2,3,4) - Are the only times you ever use this kind of rhythm with the 1/2 sliders on red ticks. I think Ctrl+G'ing them would be better cuz the sliders play quite weakly when you consider that the slider-ends land on stronger beats. I can see this rhythm becoming repetitive though, but I think if anything, try and choose a different (but better) rhythm before sticking with the current one. I really think this is fine, the beats aren't actually any stronger on white ticks than on red ticks, but in these sections the melodic instrument suddenly switches to red ticks, so combined it outweighs the white ticks Everything else was fixed
I only rechecked Extra/Paroxysm and didn't find much worth commenting. However, I really need to point out that for me, there's a difficulty imbalance between the Collab Insane and Hyper. Hyper is almost completely DS-bound and uses a lot of 1/1 and 1/2 sliders instead of single-tapping circles. As well, 1/4 rhythm is only used occasionally, and when they are, the triplets/stream are usually stacked, not spaced. Collab Insane however, uses not only single tap jumps but quite a few kick sliders too, not to mention 1/8 rhythm. Streams (though none are really long) are also noticeably spaced rather than stacked. I think adding more 1/2 circles in place of long slider-rhythm could boost the intensity of Hyper even if you decide not to map jumps. There is also the issue of readability because from Hyper > Collab Insane the difficulty in reading the map also increases quite a bit.

Anyways, let me know what you think ;o. I think more opinions on the spread between Hyper > Collab Insane would be nice too, considering the jump in rhythm/readability/strain.
ok I asked asphyxia and he pretty much agreed, I've added plentyyyyy of 1.4x~ jumps all over throughout the diff, and also a lot more 3/4 rhythms in the wubs, since it was the main section that created the gap in rhythm complexity

@toybot and Mikii: I'd raise the OD to 8 now

no more spead problems pls
Mikii
Toybot is on holiday so I will take over

CloudSplash16 wrote:

[Collab Insane]
  1. 00:20:287 (1) - I think the movement pattern here would feel more dramatic if you changed the direction: http://puu.sh/ji5mL/d337637dc2.jpg Up to you of course. I just think it's cool that way.
    Omg the arrows sold me so well. Problem is I tested it out and the distance gap becomes inconsistent due to this change and imo the combo change is fitting for the dropoff flow here, so this change in flow direction doesn't really need change
  2. 01:44:572 (4) - I think a slower slider velocity would be more appropriate to match the heavier feeling of this note.
    Fixed

    Cool map.

    Thanks <3

monstrata wrote:

[Collab Insane]

  1. 00:20:001 (1,2,1,2) - Nothing wrong. Nope. I think this is fine though :p
  2. 01:16:858 (2,3) - I think making this a jump would emphasize 3 better than stacking :P.
  3. 01:50:429 (2,3,4) - Wanna make their slider-heads linear? Right now 4 is overlapped a bit more than 3.
  4. 02:02:858 (1,1) - This overlap is really difficult to read for me ;c.
    :( 02:02:858 (1) - the slider here is pretty slow so you have enough reaction time to notice the next slider.
  5. 02:39:358 (3) - Can you make this triplet evenly spaced? :D.
    I hope this is evenly stacked, I'm terrible at noticing small spacing like this
  6. 02:44:858 (2,5) - And stack these?
Wooow good job toybot and Mikii, this Insane was really cool ;o Played surprisingly well for the amount of edgy overlappy patterns. And really well structured. Good job ;o.

<3
No comment = fixed.
Thanks for the lovely mod guys <3

Mod Applied
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Topic Starter
Nathan
updated
Monstrata
made some minor changes to Hyper
17:41 monstrata: okay if you're still here
17:41 *monstrata is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/735378 Camellia - Fastest Crash [Hyper]]
17:41 sukiNathan: kk
17:41 monstrata: should take like 5 minutes i think
17:41 monstrata: main concern is
17:41 monstrata: 03:56:144 -
17:41 monstrata: those jumps lol
17:41 monstrata: 03:56:144 (4,1,2) -
17:41 sukiNathan: oh
17:41 sukiNathan: wtf LOL
17:41 monstrata: ya lol
17:41 sukiNathan: kk fixing
17:42 monstrata: okay
17:42 monstrata: the rest is just small stuff you can choose not to fix if you dont want, but i think better to just run it through with you before bubbling xD
17:42 monstrata: let me know when ur done xD
17:44 sukiNathan: kk fixed
17:46 monstrata: ok
17:46 monstrata: 02:11:429 (1,2) - This jump
17:46 monstrata: idk 2 isnt that emphasized..
17:47 sukiNathan: ok lowered spacing
17:47 monstrata: 02:15:287 (2) - This one, just make the spacing even if you can~
17:48 monstrata: though making a jump onto 3 wouldnt' be a bad idea either xD
17:48 monstrata: up to you~
17:48 sukiNathan: just made it equal
17:48 monstrata: kk
17:48 monstrata: 02:48:429 (2) - here i think a jump from 2>3 is better than from 1>2
17:49 sukiNathan: switched
17:49 monstrata: cool
17:50 monstrata: 03:07:429 (1,2) - here, same as first point i made, the jump from 1>2 doesn't emphasize much
17:50 sukiNathan: kk
17:50 monstrata: and last
17:50 monstrata: 02:56:287 (2) - You could put a jump here if you want
17:50 monstrata: just gonna mention
17:51 monstrata: update when ur done :D
17:52 sukiNathan: ok updated
17:52 monstrata: okay lemme just check those last sliders
17:52 monstrata: okay xD theyre normal now haha

Lol. my first bubble <3. Good job :D.
nooblet
amg

gottagofast

seat belts everyone
VINXIS
~ Qualified ~
Topic Starter
Nathan
I need my pizza
byfar

VINXIS wrote:

~ Qualified ~
fuk off omar xd dxdxdx
hehe

Qualification Notice

Little

handsome wrote:

2
Dude you forgot the icon.
hehe

CloudSplash16 wrote:

handsome wrote:

2
Dude you forgot the icon.
no ididnt
-kevincela-
the battle for the qualified slot has been won
Little

handsome wrote:

no ididnt
srry xd
Rapthorn
brb gonna crash
Topic Starter
Nathan

DankHomie wrote:

ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(; ・_・)┘ ||||
Gotta crash fast
Raiden
Gz suki <3
Tari
Gratz o/
BestLeesinEuw
oh anima effimera
caren_sk
CongratZ
Mikii
Gratz!
Starfy
Finally
Congratz
Haruto
Congrats!
Buttercup
addictive map @.@
congrats c:
meii18
Congratulations suki owo !
Ambient
congratz on an incredible mapset
Little
Congrats on a nice mapset.
:^ )
Topic Starter
Nathan
asdf
Aka
cool!
your extra diff is also pretty good, better than most of your previous stuff
Len

Aka wrote:

your extra diff is also pretty good, better than most of your previous stuff

i agree with lol

i am so impressed. good awesome
VINXIS

CloudSplash16 wrote:

Congrats on a nice mapset.
:^ )
Sonnyc
Nice Extra.
Nomination Assessment Team

Disqualification Notice



Hello!

Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.

Easy

Inappropriate Approach Rate

  • Current Approach Rate is too low for a high-BPM song. Please, set Approach Rate to 3 to make the patterns more readable and to catch up with the intense nature of the track.
Extra

Unreadable reverse-arrows.

  • The following sliders are overlapped in a way that it makes it extremly difficult or nearly impossible to read the reverse-arrows, lowering the overall playability of this difficulty.
  1. 00:10:715 (4)
  2. 00:15:715 (7)

If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.

The Beatmap Nominators may handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.

Good luck!

###EM
Topic Starter
Nathan
fixed the stuff
Nezzar
my SD :(
meii18
I will check it this night :3
Topic Starter
Nathan

ByBy13 wrote:

I will check it this night :3
sorry byby I already have two BNs ><
meii18

sukiNathan wrote:

ByBy13 wrote:

I will check it this night :3
sorry byby I already have two BNs ><
):
WTHkapo

clp012345 wrote:

my SD :(
Sad :?
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