the nip of this pen is almost all gone after 5-6 months of playing for me.. I guess i'll just have to buy a new one soon...
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Tablet users: Hovering vs dragging
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Do you hover or drag?
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Will3x
I tap too... can we have a 3rd option "Tapping" plz?
When I bought the tablet it contained several refills for the going off of nip of the pen, so I am not afraid of this. What I fear the most is the scratched tablet that it might fail to detect stimulus one day?Will3x wrote:
the nip of this pen is almost all gone after 5-6 months of playing for me.. I guess i'll just have to buy a new one soon...
The tablet doesn't 'detect stimulus' itself. When the pen is touched to the surface, the nip moves slightly inside the tip of the pen and forms a contact then the pen sends a message that the pen was touched to the tablet. The only thing the tablet does is receive the information and provide wireless power to the pen.kookookook wrote:
When I bought the tablet it contained several refills for the going off of nip of the pen, so I am not afraid of this. What I fear the most is the scratched tablet that it might fail to detect stimulus one day?Will3x wrote:
the nip of this pen is almost all gone after 5-6 months of playing for me.. I guess i'll just have to buy a new one soon...
Not only dragging damages your tablet, it makes your movement slower.
I cant really vote since i tend to do both, hover for fast jumps and drag for smaller patterns and stuff.
also i dont use a nib on my pen and it works fine.(the pen tip is actually misshapen and warped from dragging so much)
also i dont use a nib on my pen and it works fine.(the pen tip is actually misshapen and warped from dragging so much)
Hovering, because if I hit the tablet with my pen it will freeze sometimes. I've failed many songs because I accidentally hit it :s
You're probably applying way too much pressure. I only have to change my pen nibs every few months, and even then they aren't that worn out, I could probably reuse all of them with no issue. Try to relax your hand a bit more and apply less pressure. I used to change my nib more often back when I got my tablet and used a smaller area, because I had to tense my hand more which made me press harder onto the tablet as well.Xivaxi wrote:
I have a question to those who drag:
How do you keep your pen nibs from being eaten away within the span of a few days?
I have much better cursor control and snapping while dragging, but my pen is visibly being eaten away after only 2-3 maps...so I force myself to hover. Is there some trick to longer pen life? Or am I destined to learn to hover...
You could also buy lots of spare nibs, that would probably solve your problem as well, but I've never had to (still using the spare nibs that came with my tablet, one year after).
I'd recommend you to hover.
dragging present participle of drag (Verb)Puncia wrote:
Luna wrote:
I tap, so neither really
Verb
Pull (someone or something) along forcefully, roughly, or with difficulty.
there's a difference between tapping and dragging you know
Tapping = not disabling mouse buttons, and using pen contact with tablet as the primary means of input.
As in, I play maps without streams with tablet only (And use only one keyboard key in addition to tapping for streams).
Basically a combination of hovering (for general movement) and dragging (for sliders, spinners etc)
As in, I play maps without streams with tablet only (And use only one keyboard key in addition to tapping for streams).
Basically a combination of hovering (for general movement) and dragging (for sliders, spinners etc)
edit: luna described already
anyways, the option you choose is HOVER because most of your movement is going to be hovering over the tablet.
anyways, the option you choose is HOVER because most of your movement is going to be hovering over the tablet.
I've been dragging for like ever, but I can't get used to hovering. What happens is I lift the pen up to high sometimes and it screws up everything. That and my hand shakes sooooo badly
i'm hovering since when i got my tab and i think it's better for the pen ^^
I drag, and to avoid excessive tablet/ nib wear, I taped a piece of clear plastic (an overhead sheet) around my tablet tightly. I havent had to replace a tip yet, but I suppose it will wear out eventually... Just not anytime soon.
I did that too, and it's actually working.d777b wrote:
I drag, and to avoid excessive tablet/ nib wear, I taped a piece of clear plastic (an overhead sheet) around my tablet tightly. I havent had to replace a tip yet, but I suppose it will wear out eventually... Just not anytime soon.
I hover, but I keep the pen close to the tab so occasionally it touches the tab. With mouse disabled ofcourse
I hover. Course my hand was shaking my first time trying the "hover" method, but after 4 hours I got used to it.
I tap on my screen, but I have a screen protector on so I'm not too worried about getting it scratched (there are slightly noticable scratchmarks from spinners though... ). The pen nib is slightly worn after ~4 months of play, but its still usable for everything i can throw at it. I tap as much as I can, except the occasional map with heavy deathstreams.
i usually hover, but i drag during spinners.
i used to hover spinners too, but sometimes the pen goes out of tablet's range and break my spinning.
i used to hover spinners too, but sometimes the pen goes out of tablet's range and break my spinning.
i hover but my hand rests on the tablet, which causes a lot of trouble since it limits my movement=w=;;;
so i always wear a jacket so i can glide my hand as much as i want on the tablet.......bad thing is that I get so hot when i play during summer...
so i always wear a jacket so i can glide my hand as much as i want on the tablet.......bad thing is that I get so hot when i play during summer...
Will3x
maybe adjust the active area so you can keep your wrist in one place?dumieAri wrote:
i hover but my hand rests on the tablet, which causes a lot of trouble since it limits my movement=w=;;;
so i always wear a jacket so i can glide my hand as much as i want on the tablet.......bad thing is that I get so hot when i play during summer...
lol you don't need to wear the jacket...dumieAri wrote:
i hover but my hand rests on the tablet, which causes a lot of trouble since it limits my movement=w=;;;
so i always wear a jacket so i can glide my hand as much as i want on the tablet.......bad thing is that I get so hot when i play during summer...
I put my wrist bone on the table and I slip in a piece of soft towel under. I fold the towel at least twice so that there're 4 layers. This allows me to glide short distance without much friction, cause the towel layers are rubbing against each others when I move instead of my wrist taking the full impact.
maybe adjust the active area so you can keep your wrist in one place?[/quote]
i tried, but i prefer a bigger active area, feels more natural o3o;
i tried, but i prefer a bigger active area, feels more natural o3o;
ahah, maybe i should try that. I did it with tissue once but it didn't go well lol. =w=;;Oinari-sama wrote:
lol you don't need to wear the jacket...dumieAri wrote:
i hover but my hand rests on the tablet, which causes a lot of trouble since it limits my movement=w=;;;
so i always wear a jacket so i can glide my hand as much as i want on the tablet.......bad thing is that I get so hot when i play during summer...
I put my wrist bone on the table and I slip in a piece of soft towel under. I fold the towel at least twice so that there're 4 layers. This allows me to glide short distance without much friction, cause the towel layers are rubbing against each others when I move instead of my wrist taking the full impact.
why haven't i thought of that =OPuncia wrote:
I use something like this, you should try it.
orz
guys i just tried hovering and i found it very fiteeging compared to drags
I drag but might start hovering or at least try, dont really wanna completely ruin my pen within just weeks of having it.
However dragging feels better imo, you get the "feedback" when touching the tablet, feels more natural to me.
However dragging feels better imo, you get the "feedback" when touching the tablet, feels more natural to me.
Hello everyone, I just recently made the switch over from keyboard and mouse to keyboard and tablet and I have a few questions, if you guys can help me.
!. How can I disable the feature of clicking on the tablet, so I can just drag my pen on tablet itself ?
2. Do you normally use the default mapping surface area or do you reduce it to your liking, because it feels like I'm moving around too much.
3. Since hovering seems to be the general way of playing ( looking at the results) , how can you feel when your pen comes up to much, without looking down ? Can you just naturally feel it or you hold your pen in a certain way to help alert you when you're coming up too high?
!. How can I disable the feature of clicking on the tablet, so I can just drag my pen on tablet itself ?
2. Do you normally use the default mapping surface area or do you reduce it to your liking, because it feels like I'm moving around too much.
3. Since hovering seems to be the general way of playing ( looking at the results) , how can you feel when your pen comes up to much, without looking down ? Can you just naturally feel it or you hold your pen in a certain way to help alert you when you're coming up too high?
Filthy Casual
1. Press F10 in game to disable clicksNot_Darkmatter wrote:
Hello everyone, I just recently made the switch over from keyboard and mouse to keyboard and tablet and I have a few questions, if you guys can help me.
!. How can I disable the feature of clicking on the tablet, so I can just drag my pen on tablet itself ?
2. Do you normally use the default mapping surface area or do you reduce it to your liking, because it feels like I'm moving around too much.
3. Since hovering seems to be the general way of playing ( looking at the results) , how can you feel when your pen comes up to much, without looking down ? Can you just naturally feel it or you hold your pen in a certain way to help alert you when you're coming up too high?
2. I use around 2/3 of my tablet, but everyone is different so find what feels best to you
3. I used to have a bit of trouble with taking my pen too far away from the tablet when I first started but over time I stopped doing it by accident.
Basically just press F10 and play more.
I hover.
I don't really like the resistance when dragging.
I don't really like the resistance when dragging.
Always been hovering since I started tablet. I tried dragging once but it feels so slow plus I don't want to kill the nibs 
I drag, feels more stable than hovering for me and since the area I use for osu! is worn smooth there's little resistance. I don't press too hard and my nibs last for quite a long time.
Still, dragging sounds like such a rough term, feels more like gliding across the surface to me.
Still, dragging sounds like such a rough term, feels more like gliding across the surface to me.
So... I wish I could hover.
I got my wacom tablet in early January.
March 18
http://imgur.com/cX49pq1
April 27
http://imgur.com/QU3pZFZ
June 21
What is a nib? :3
http://imgur.com/HXnYPXH
Think i might need to buy a new one very soon!
I got my wacom tablet in early January.
March 18
http://imgur.com/cX49pq1
April 27
http://imgur.com/QU3pZFZ
June 21
What is a nib? :3
http://imgur.com/HXnYPXH
Think i might need to buy a new one very soon!
teasp00n I think next time it'd be better if you removed the nib when you're playing.
You probably got extra nibs with it. You might wanna replace it. If it's even possible now that is.teasp00n wrote:
So... I wish I could hover.
I got my wacom tablet in early January.
March 18
http://imgur.com/cX49pq1
April 27
http://imgur.com/QU3pZFZ
June 21
What is a nib? :3
http://imgur.com/HXnYPXH
Think i might need to buy a new one very soon!
I don't play much with my tablet/at all any more because I have stuff to do, but with the week or two I've had my osu!tablet I feel more natural dragging since it feels more like writing normally. I guess it'd be better for me since I don't play too frequently though.
learned to hover in about a month of suffering and being annoyed by it, i like how it makes no noise
i hover and tap
but i have a good tablet pen so i also set the nib to off so that it doesnt register on the tablet.
but i have a good tablet pen so i also set the nib to off so that it doesnt register on the tablet.
I got the cheapest version so i couldnt change nibs on it. But it says on the box that is should be extra nibs :S weird.tokaku wrote:
teasp00n I think next time it'd be better if you removed the nib when you're playing.
But it still works fine
DeletedUser_3905941
They're under the pen holder.teasp00n wrote:
I got the cheapest version so i couldnt change nibs on it. But it says on the box that is should be extra nibs :S weird.tokaku wrote:
teasp00n I think next time it'd be better if you removed the nib when you're playing.
But it still works fine
I tap...so i guess i'll vote for dragging...> >
Does anyone else find tapping just having inconsistent performance in general 0 0, sometimes I can do songs beyond my level sometimes I just cant hit anything for my life =-=
Does anyone else find tapping just having inconsistent performance in general 0 0, sometimes I can do songs beyond my level sometimes I just cant hit anything for my life =-=
Voted for Hovering because I'm way better when hovering
I'm not sure about tapping being inconsistent. I end up tapping when I'm jumping and drag during spinners, it's a habit. I don't know which one to vote for :/AzureRin wrote:
I tap...so i guess i'll vote for dragging...> >
Does anyone else find tapping just having inconsistent performance in general 0 0, sometimes I can do songs beyond my level sometimes I just cant hit anything for my life =-=
RedPanda wrote:
They're under the pen holder.
....... DAMN!
Your right o.o *facepalm*
S-So.. How do you change them? o.o
Sorry for offtopic
DeletedUser_3905941
Well you've destroyed your pen completely it seems so it might not work, but you place your pen nib into the metal hole on the back, put the pen at an angle and pull.teasp00n wrote:
RedPanda wrote:
They're under the pen holder.
....... DAMN!
Your right o.o *facepalm*
S-So.. How do you change them? o.o
Sorry for offtopic
Actually I removed the nib since I really love to draw and don't want to waste it on a goddamn game, and the results were pretty neat... it literally shaved off a portion of my pen from all the dragging, but it doesn't cripple me in any way, it's just aesthetically displeasing.tokaku wrote:
teasp00n I think next time it'd be better if you removed the nib when you're playing.
I started out by dragging but pressed too hard and thought I would damage the tablet and continued hovering, but a couple of months later switched back to dragging. I find it much difficult to hit accurately while hovering and my spinning is much worse. In my opinion, if you drag lightly, you wouldn't have hardware problems. Instead of nibs I use something I thought would be wrong but am actually pretty satisfied with - grass trimmer line. It feels better for me, it is much cheaper, can find it anywhere and lasts longer, I think.
shortly after i posted this i started hovering, easier movements on harder songsenaporp wrote:
I drag but might start hovering or at least try, dont really wanna completely ruin my pen within just weeks of having it.
However dragging feels better imo, you get the "feedback" when touching the tablet, feels more natural to me.
Ever since i got my hands on a tablet, i had been dragging. Of course, being aware of wear and tear, i purchased one of those iPad screen protection sheets and attached it to the top of the tablet. It makes for less scratches for the hardware itself and a more slippery surface to work / play on.
I have occasionally tried hovering, but my accuracy suffers when i do. There's also the issue of occasionally losing control or contact with the tablet by hovering too far over the surface, resulting in pen movements not being registered.
It's a preferential difference of reliable pinpoint accuracy vs freedom of movement and less force applied on pen when playing, though that varies with playstyle, tablet active area settings, and other things.
I have occasionally tried hovering, but my accuracy suffers when i do. There's also the issue of occasionally losing control or contact with the tablet by hovering too far over the surface, resulting in pen movements not being registered.
It's a preferential difference of reliable pinpoint accuracy vs freedom of movement and less force applied on pen when playing, though that varies with playstyle, tablet active area settings, and other things.
I prefer hovering, it's near impossible to do long jumps and spins dragging, at least me.
Dude, nice! I'm usually a hover type of person and I wanted to try dragging. The screen protector thing helps me so much! Thanks for the tipBeatMaster007 wrote:
Ever since i got my hands on a tablet, i had been dragging. Of course, being aware of wear and tear, i purchased one of those iPad screen protection sheets and attached it to the top of the tablet. It makes for less scratches for the hardware itself and a more slippery surface to work / play on.
I have occasionally tried hovering, but my accuracy suffers when i do. There's also the issue of occasionally losing control or contact with the tablet by hovering too far over the surface, resulting in pen movements not being registered.
It's a preferential difference of reliable pinpoint accuracy vs freedom of movement and less force applied on pen when playing, though that varies with playstyle, tablet active area settings, and other things.
I drag. But people need to stop preaching about hovering/dragging, the differences are negligible (nothing will convince me otherwise)
Mouse I have never heard of that brand of tablet.Hell wrote:
yeah i use a mouse where is that option
I actually hover, but sometimes I get real close and drag a bit. It generally happens because my read height is very low. (Something around 6-12 mm)
Hovering just feels awkward for me. It costs quite a bit of effort to keep the pen just above the tablet, but not on it.
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
I guess I'm a retard then. DUDE NICE! But if you talk physics then wouldn't your aim be more stable while planted on a surface rather then in hovering in the air? But then again people only care about speed in this game nowadays anyway.thedamntrain wrote:
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
dat avatar
I see what you did there.
This is why I drag now, instead of hover. I always switch to hover to do spinners, but otherwise I drag, as it makes me a ton more consistent.[ BJ ] wrote:
I guess I'm a retard then. DUDE NICE! But if you talk physics then wouldn't your aim be more stable while planted on a surface rather then in hovering in the air? But then again people only care about speed in this game nowadays anyway.thedamntrain wrote:
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
It's just a cute girl, no traps :3GoldenWolf wrote:
dat avatar
I see what you did there.
Well you might be happy to learn that one of your "respected player" drag.thedamntrain wrote:
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
Yeahhhhh suuure :3[ BJ ] wrote:
It's just a cute girl, no traps :3
Hey, I see you guys are talking about it on this thread and I would very much want some experienced players to tell me how they dealt with hovering instead of dragging. Like, what are the prons and cons of hovering vs dragging?
Im worried because I might make the switch of going from dragging to govering but im worried I won't be as accurate and good in spjnners. :I
Im worried because I might make the switch of going from dragging to govering but im worried I won't be as accurate and good in spjnners. :I
Don't be worried, it's mostly personnal preferences and both are equally good
Pros and cons would be you might be slower when draggining, and less stable when hovering? But that's by a small margin and wouldn't get noticeable unless you play at a very high level, and even then you'd have practiced enough to overcome the "cons"
Pros and cons would be you might be slower when draggining, and less stable when hovering? But that's by a small margin and wouldn't get noticeable unless you play at a very high level, and even then you'd have practiced enough to overcome the "cons"
You can adapt to whatever dumbshit playstyle you choose as long as you practice at it long enough.GoldenWolf wrote:
Well you might be happy to learn that one of your "respected player" drag.thedamntrain wrote:
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
That wasn't the point though.
So much respect.
So much respect.
I have "respect" for anyone who can reach top 100 without spamming ezmode DT. You don't have to respect an osuretard as a person, there's nothing glorious about spending 5 years on this game, but I "respect" their skill. Not them as a person, do you comprehend?GoldenWolf wrote:
That wasn't the point though.
So much respect.
No, it doesn't make any sense. But then again I didn't expect anything more/less from you.
Can't tell me if you're trying to insult me or make yourself seem retarded by not understanding such simple logic. Then again if you manage to spend enough time here in 2 years to leave 1630 forum posts, you need to kill yourself.GoldenWolf wrote:
No, it doesn't make any sense. But then again I didn't expect anything more/less from you.
You're objectively stupid. You think the ONLY aspect to aiming well is how fast you can move from one point to another? Geez, I guess everyone should use a 1cmx1cm area and play at the lowest resolution possible.thedamntrain wrote:
Only retards drag. It's pure physics. Drag=friction=!=speed.
Not to mention you're telling wolf to kill himself for having "a lot" of forum posts (like what the fuck) and you seem to solely "respect" someone on whether they can obtain a certain rank without using dt.
You're cancer. Chemo please.
Do you understand the difference between physically moving your pen and your cursor moving on the screen? How do you even end up in that conclusion, unless you have absolutely zero idea how tablet areas function.Rewben2 wrote:
You're objectively stupid. You think the ONLY aspect to aiming well is how fast you can move from one point to another? Geez, I guess everyone should use a 1cmx1cm area and play at the lowest resolution possible.
Not to mention you're telling wolf to kill himself for having "a lot" of forum posts (like what the fuck) and you seem to solely "respect" someone on whether they can obtain a certain rank without using dt.Are you purposefully trying to make me repeat myself, or can you just not read?
You're cancer. Chemo please.That's a really poor choice of words to end your rant about licking somebody's ass on teh circlejerk forums, even if you don't understand what I'm talking about.
Yeah, having a smaller tablet area or having a lower resolution means less movement is required to get from one point to another. As far as aiming goes, this is what speed is, no?thedamntrain wrote:
Do you understand the difference between physically moving your pen and your cursor moving on the screen? How do you even end up in that conclusion, unless you have absolutely zero idea how tablet areas function.
You completely omitted the first part of my post, which is just a stupid, irrelevant attack. I was just stating that I think your standards of respecting someone was stupid, no misunderstanding.thedamntrain wrote:
Are you purposefully trying to make me repeat myself, or can you just not read?
Who's ass am I licking again? I perfectly understand what you're talking about.thedamntrain wrote:
That's a really poor choice of words to end your rant about licking somebody's ass on teh circlejerk forums, even if you don't understand what I'm talking about.
It's okay, this world needs tools.
All I ever see you doing on the forums is arguing with people... And it would appear this is no exception. I don't want to argue with you, it seems you're only out to be a dick and insult people and not actually have a legitimate argument regarding what's being discussed.
dragging is a retarded playstyle guys, i wonder what that makes mouse users rofl
I wrote at the end of my quote that I don't intend on arguing with him lol-Soba- wrote:
why are you guys even responding to that guy lol
You clearly have no idea what I'm talking about. How does having 0 friction as opposed to pushing your pen against the tablet amount in me saying you're better off playing with 1cm x 1cm area, since it reduces the amount of movement required to move between A and B? Friction increases the amount of work you do when moving your pen around, and if you claim anything else you're a fucking retard.Rewben2 wrote:
Yeah, having a smaller tablet area or having a lower resolution means less movement is required to get from one point to another. As far as aiming goes, this is what speed is, no?
Mouse doesn't have absolute tracking, rendering your point useless.Noobsicle wrote:
dragging is a retarded playstyle guys, i wonder what that makes mouse users rofl
This is too ez.
Yeah, best being ignorant of your own stupidity.Rewben2 wrote:
I wrote at the end of my quote that I don't intend on arguing with him lol-Soba- wrote:
why are you guys even responding to that guy lol
You're so full of yourself. Spreading random nonsense shit everywhere and thinking you're above anyone in this forum. Nice. You get to be the first person I ever ignored, no point even trying to argue with you.
You said friction is bad because it isn't speed. You can essentially increase speed by lowering the tablet area. It's quite a dumb thing to point out because the idea of "aiming speed" is rather stupid, anyways. In almost every case, people don't have an issue with not being able to aim fast enough, it's about aiming precisely and reading maps properly.thedamntrain wrote:
You clearly have no idea what I'm talking about. How does having 0 friction as opposed to pushing your pen against the tablet amount in me saying you're better off playing with 1cm x 1cm area, since it reduces the amount of movement required to move between A and B? Friction increases the amount of work you do when moving your pen around, and if you claim anything else you're a fucking retard.Rewben2 wrote:
Yeah, having a smaller tablet area or having a lower resolution means less movement is required to get from one point to another. As far as aiming goes, this is what speed is, no?
I never claimed that friction won't increase the amount of work needed to move the pen around, even though the amount it is by is rather negligible.
It seems you want to discuss the topic now so I'm glad to respond
Guess I spoke too soon. I specifically mentioned that I didn't want to argue because you were doing it just to be a dick and didn't want to discuss the topic the thread is about, and now you throw in another attack. Are you incapable of having a simple discussion without bashing the person you're talking with?thedamntrain wrote:
Yeah, best being ignorant of your own stupidity.
wow i totally didn't know that.thedamntrain wrote:
Mouse doesn't have absolute trackingNoobsicle wrote:
dragging is a retarded playstyle guys, i wonder what that makes mouse users rofl
wrong answer
mouse can have absolute tracking if you know how
dragging with tablet is more or less the same as mouse, they both make use of friction so they both must be retarded right???????????????
#purephysics
Nope, mouse can only have relative trackingNoobsicle wrote:
mouse can have absolute tracking if you know how
As a mouse+kb player for about 2 years idk how that should be possibleGoldenWolf wrote:
Nope, mouse can only have relative trackingNoobsicle wrote:
mouse can have absolute tracking if you know how
Idk much about it but I remember Purple made a thread a while ago where he put a tablet stylus in a mouse shell and then used the mouse on top of the tablet, it's essentially still a tablet but it's like using a mouse.Okoratu wrote:
As a mouse+kb player for about 2 years idk how that should be possibleGoldenWolf wrote:
Nope, mouse can only have relative tracking
That doesn't essentially sound like it's a mouse , also modifying your mouse that way is more like building some kind of hybrid lolRewben2 wrote:
Idk much about it but I remember Purple made a thread a while ago where he put a tablet stylus in a mouse shell and then used the mouse on top of the tablet, it's essentially still a tablet but it's like using a mouse.Okoratu wrote:
As a mouse+kb player for about 2 years idk how that should be possible
Sometimes it's necessary to respond to idiots. Otherwise no response can give other people the impression that the morons know what they're talking about.-Soba- wrote:
why are you guys even responding to that guy lol
just imagine if this forum was only a bunch of riinces giving people advice
would actually be better than a bunch of damntrain giving people advicesapaffy wrote:
just imagine if this forum was only a bunch of riinces giving people advice
honestly, they both sound like terrible outcomes and i'd rather have neither
That'd be the case if somebody actually managed to prove me wrong. So far we've had a retard trying to defy the laws of physics, some idiot who thinks mice have absolute tracking and the guy "correcting idiots". This place is like a retard fiesta.apaffy wrote:
Sometimes it's necessary to respond to idiots. Otherwise no response can give other people the impression that the morons know what they're talking about.-Soba- wrote:
why are you guys even responding to that guy lol
how have i avoided this fate for so long?GoldenWolf wrote:
You're so full of yourself. Spreading random nonsense shit everywhere and thinking you're above anyone in this forum. Nice. You get to be the first person I ever ignored, no point even trying to argue with you.
even if that's meant to be some sort of attempt at a joke, that's pretty rudeapaffy wrote:
Sometimes it's necessary to respond to idiots. Otherwise no response can give other people the impression that the morons know what they're talking about.-Soba- wrote:
why are you guys even responding to that guy lol
just imagine if this forum was only a bunch of riinces giving people advice
I still believe in you. You make me cringe at times but it's alright.Riince wrote:
how have i avoided this fate for so long?
Ok. You didn't respond to my post at all yet you say that you haven't been "proved wrong". Yeah, ignoring it makes you correct. I almost forgot how logic worked, oops. I never fucking said that dragging doesn't create work, no one fucking did. You're straight up making up bullshit by saying that, quit attacking a straw man. Noobsicle didn't say mice used absolute tracking, he said it was possible. Every point you just said is straight up incorrect and is a huge distortion of what has actually been said.thedamntrain wrote:
That'd be the case if somebody actually managed to prove me wrong. So far we've had a retard trying to defy the laws of physics, some idiot who thinks mice have absolute tracking and the guy "correcting idiots". This place is like a retard fiesta.
Everything you say is extremely arrogant, in or out of this thread. I would legitimately love to believe you're a troll but I know you aren't, unfortunately. You've shown time and time again you are simply incapable of holding a conversation, so enjoy your spot as the first and only person on my ignore list.
100%. Riince shitposts now and then but still offers advice and contributes, damntrain on the other hand...GoldenWolf wrote:
would actually be better than a bunch of damntrain giving people advicesapaffy wrote:
just imagine if this forum was only a bunch of riinces giving people advice