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BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

BCI 2013-02-09T11:01:27+00:00

http://puu.sh/1ZKMr all fxd, thanks Bass-nyan \>w</

Bass

1,846 posts

Joined January 2009

Bass 2013-02-09T15:07:39+00:00

Through today's testplay found yet two things on Extra:
00:21:851 (x) - you should add note there, since I heard still 1/4 in background, and pattern will look better
02:18:786 (1,2,3,4,5) - uh (5) is really hidden by (1)'s hitburts, it made me unable to hit it because I coudn't even predict if I should go back.

no kd

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-02-09T18:32:00+00:00

Bass wrote:
[Collab]
00:15:134 (2,3,4,5,6) - trough playtest, this pattern felt wrong to me, I got totally confused. Due to such high bpm I thought there is constant rhythm with 00:14:612 (1) and (2), (3). Now there 00:15:395 (4,5,6) - that's constant, and spacing practically same like before. This is really hard with such bpm and trough this diff I recall that's the only one tricky pattern which appeared. I would suggest other rhythm and pattern there totally. Which is: Really feels more pleasure to click, now don't forget about changing pattern aswell. Something like that would be nice:
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Of course that's only suggestion of the pattern, you can form it into something different. ~I agree, I have changed it to something more acceptable
00:21:134 (1,2,3,4) - take a look at this pattern, and spacing between 1,2 and 3,4. Basically the same, but 1,2 is on 1/2 and 3,4 is 1/4. For me didn't cause much problems but other less skilled players would have problem with judging if it's still 1/2. Just moving (4) closer to (3) will resolve problem. ~Okayy I putted them closer
00:25:830 (4,1,2) - ahh yeah, this is together 1/4. (1) and (2) are stacked with 1/2. That makes pattern even more harder to read due to sudden rhythm change on that spacing. I think swapping (1) and (2) with slider would be better... now that pattern might cause player will break combo or just get 100/50 points easily. ~Ah,,, I see,,, I used a slider to make it obvious what is happening
00:27:917 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I guess this pattern is fine.. but not a fan of it..~Hmm,,, (but i kinda like it ;A;)
00:55:178 (5) - unsnapped hitcircle ~It is? :O ./fixes
01:27:395 (4,1) - place between these feels really empty, especially when I can hear synth there, how about filling this space? ~Hm,,, I dont know anything that fits here,,, also, Im following some certain instrument which name I dont know DX
01:53:482 (7,8) - somehow I find that pattern flow-breaking, my cursor would like rather go up to click (8), not down..try this
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~You know, before I looked in the spoilerbox I did exactly the same thing with the circle OAO;; anyways accepted
01:56:873 (x) - add note there, that synth calls for it, without that I find 01:57:134 (1) - weird to click because space before feels empty ~ahaha I forgot sorry xD fixedd
02:04:830 (5) - This slider sounds weird due to it's placed on red tick and it doesn't match with synth well, just add circle on 02:04:830 and move (5) 1/2 later and of course, shorten it by 1/2 ~I just reversed them hehehe~

Very helpful mod :O thankss :3

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Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-02-14T14:30:51+00:00

Alright, let's do this.

SPOILER

Bass wrote:
You told me to focus on Collab, so I will start from it.

Please write what you fixed and what not(explain please)

[General]
ok

[Extra]
00:07:699 (3) - making blanket with (2) will look much nicer hm, okay
00:27:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - I don't have problem with reading it but it's really crazy with such BPM, hovewer would suggest putting NC on each start of stream added the NCs
01:46:177 (7,8,9,10) - discussed that with some MATs, it's fine but it goes offscreen, fix that hu? coordinates are 232:0, this is still in the screen (?). maybe you can explain a bit further? :3
01:53:873 (1,2,3,4) - honestly had no idea if go down or up, it's hard to tell, so put new combo on (4) alright (although I am not sure, should I remove the previous NC then?)
02:16:699 (1,2) - that looks completely ugly and slider head is hidden by previous sliderpath.. so move (2) somewhere else away from (1) don't want to sound arrogant but ugliness is subjective, I like this silder arrangement (also because it hasn't been used 987253 times already)
02:26:090 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - a predict a lot of A ranks because of that yeah, I know this is kinda...lame but it fits really well. Just don't know what to do here, I changed it a little bit now.

[Normal]
ok

Just imo Extra and Collab needs more work but it has potential.
That's all I could find. Good luck! Hope it helps.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Through today's testplay found yet two things on Extra:
00:21:851 (x) - you should add note there, since I heard still 1/4 in background, and pattern will look better added the circle (although I don't think it is looking better now)
02:18:786 (1,2,3,4,5) - uh (5) is really hidden by (1)'s hitburts, it made me unable to hit it because I coudn't even predict if I should go back. uh, need more opinions on that, you might be right but atm I think it is just a (well, not quite) usual stack

no kd

Thank you very much for this really good mod!

Edit: I also accepted all suggestions you gave for Katty's parts in the collab (got her permission).

0gre_old

367 posts

Joined January 2013

0gre_old 2013-02-19T20:54:56+00:00

[MOD QUEUE REQUEST (Taiko only)]

SIGNs

d = don
k = katsu
D = big done
K = big katsu
add
delete
/ = exchange to

[KKTaiko]

MOD information

[*]00:04:177
No notes? such like k finish ?
[*]00:06:525 ~ 00:08:351
This part is similar to
00:04:438 ~ 00:06:004
I think bit too much differences between
[*]00:08:351
From here bit have more notes compare to just before
may be look at d sound stronger
so may be can conisider something about these points
00:10:177 , 00:10:308 , 00:10:438 , 00:11:351
[*]

00:29:090 - add any note here?
00:52:047 (1) - d ?
00:53:743 (1,1,1,1) - k k d d ?
00:55:830 (1) - d ?
01:04:830 (2,3) - d ?
01:05:221 (1) - then k ~
01:06:264 (4,5,1,2) - k k k D

[*]01:25:569 ~ 01:29:743
I thought there are too much notes in this part
it is very quiet compare to kiai part
[*]

01:31:047 (3) - k ?
01:31:699 (2) - k ?
01:33:525 (1) - d ?
01:35:221 (3) - k ?
01:35:873 (1,1) - k d ?
01:36:721 - add d ?
01:43:438 (1,2) - k ?

[*]01:42:264 ~ 01:46:047
You may can arrange here to something else
[*]02:02:221 (1,1,1)
How about deleting these notes?
[*]02:03:917 (1,2,4)
To d ? two same notes but hear clearly
gives a bit different to
02:04:177 (1,3,5)
[*]

02:13:047 (1) - k ?
02:13:569 (3) - d ?
02:15:656 (3) - d ?

[*]02:12:525 ~ 02:13:569
And
02:14:612 ~ 02:15:656
are not different ?
[*]02:19:438 ~ 02:25:960
Give some change here ~
or just have fewer notes all through this part[/list]

I can see how you take the sound from
may be try to get these sounds to follow instead

Thanks for seeing!

iMirai_old

56 posts

Joined August 2011

iMirai_old 2013-02-27T14:10:18+00:00

Normal
00:27:134 (1,2) - They look weird
That's the only thing caught my eyes

quiz-chan_DELETED

quiz-chan_DELETED 2013-03-02T17:01:20+00:00

Hi~ from my queue

[General]
Everything's fine.

[phaZ' Easy]
Please check AIMod, it says something about unsnapped objects, didn't really check.

00:27:134 (1) - A new combo here would do extremely good. Dunno why, it just would.
01:10:438 (5,1) - hmpf.... this overlap doesn't look too good after all. Maybe you can adjust it a bit?
01:14:612 (5,1) - Same 'bout this guy.
01:38:090 (1) - Hmmm... I dunno about that shape... looks a little random to me.
02:24:004 (5) - I would really recommend setting a new combo here, even if there are no hitobjects (except spinner) following.

Nice diff!

[Normal]
00:05:221 (3) - There is no significant sound in the background or no instrumental that matches the sliderbody whistle, so I don't see why you put it there.
00:07:308 (4) - ^
00:09:395 (3) - ^
00:37:569 (1) - Seriously? This is almost lazy, because this slider is a lot longer than it has to be due to the repeats. One repeat would be sufficient.

[BCI's Hard]
Check AIMod here too, again because of some snapping error thingy.

HPDR +1
OD -1
AR -1
(above are just suggestions)

00:09:786 (4) - You can remake this slider with the circular slider feature to make it an even better blanket.
00:43:308 (5) - This slider looks a bit ugly. Maybe move third (white) node to adjust?
00:50:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not too bad but I still recommend remaking this with the polygon circle tool, this time.
01:52:047 (6) - Soft whistle would do good on slider end.
02:14:090 (2) - Please remake blanket. I'm a BLANKET NA-ZEEH~

02:27:656 (4) - Redundant clap hitsound on slider end.

Cool!

[Collab]
HPDR +1
(again, just a suggestion above)

02:28:243 (1) - I would recommend completely silencing the spinner, since all sounds are fading out.

Awzum!~

[Extra]
Superb diff!!

Good luck, y'all!!

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-03-02T23:37:14+00:00

SPOILER

Quiz-chan wrote:
[Normal]
00:05:221 (3) - There is no significant sound in the background or no instrumental that matches the sliderbody whistle, so I don't see why you put it there. it's there to create variety D:
00:07:308 (4) - ^ ^
00:09:395 (3) - ^ ^
00:37:569 (1) - Seriously? This is almost lazy, because this slider is a lot longer than it has to be due to the repeats. One repeat would be sufficient. changed a bit so that it fits the music better

[Extra]
Superb diff!!

Good luck, y'all!!

Thanks for modding, you'll get your kudo when the others reply to your post.

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-03-05T12:02:19+00:00

Quiz-chan wrote:
Hi~ from my queue

[phaZ' Easy]
Please check AIMod, it says something about unsnapped objects, didn't really check. fixed. was really buggy

00:27:134 (1) - A new combo here would do extremely good. Dunno why, it just would. done
01:10:438 (5,1) - hmpf.... this overlap doesn't look too good after all. Maybe you can adjust it a bit? no, sorry
01:14:612 (5,1) - Same 'bout this guy. ^
01:38:090 (1) - Hmmm... I dunno about that shape... looks a little random to me. no it isn't . together with (5) it is a 180° bell!
02:24:004 (5) - I would really recommend setting a new combo here, even if there are no hitobjects (except spinner) following. done

Nice diff!

thx!

Last edited by phaZ 2013-04-28T09:16:21+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-03-14T21:05:52+00:00

Random fix owo ./only my part

SPOILER

osu file format v12

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PreviewTime: 89342
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TitleUnicode:Forsaken Neon
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Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-03-14T21:11:42+00:00

Uh, yeah. Still waiting for BCI's response before uploading everything. She said it will take a while. >//<

BCI

1,081 posts

Joined May 2011

BCI 2013-03-17T14:13:32+00:00

Quiz-chan wrote:
[BCI's Hard]

HPDR +1
OD -1
AR -1
(above are just suggestions) OD only o3o

00:50:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not too bad but I still recommend remaking this with the polygon circle tool, this time. wat why

Cool! thanks >3<

http://puu.sh/2jfTJ

RikiH_

1,149 posts

Joined February 2011

RikiH_ 2013-03-27T19:23:19+00:00

m4m from my queue!

phaZ's Easy

00:16:177 (4,1) - This blanket can be better in my opinion
01:00:525 (3,4) - I don't like this, it's a bit ugly
01:03:656 (3) - You can make this better with the new algorhythm
01:31:830 (4,5) - Stack these perfectly
01:54:786 (6) - Do you need the whistle here?

Normal

00:08:873 (2) - I'd make it a bit curved, like the previous one
00:10:960 (2,3) - You can make this blanket a bit better
00:37:569 (1,2) - Uhm, I'm not sure about this overlap... It's a bit ugly
00:38:612 (1) - You can make this better with the new algorhythm
00:45:134 (4) - I think the spacing is wrong here... Move this note 1 grid right
01:03:395 (2) - This overlap... Can you move this one grid right?
01:42:786 (2) - Ctrl+g?

BCI's Hard

00:13:830 (5) - Move this 2 grid up for the spacing with the previous slider
00:29:743 (2) - Ctrl+g?
00:43:308 (5) - Curve it a little bit better
00:53:482 (6,1) - I'm sure you can make a better blanket here
01:02:482 - Add a note?
01:39:656 (5) - Move the second sliderpoint to 322|214 for making this parallel with the previous slider
01:54:786 (5) - Finish here please, I think you forgot to add it
02:07:699 (2,3) - This blanket can be better
02:10:960 (4) - Can't you copy,paste and flip the previous slider? This is a bit ugly
02:15:917 - Add a note?
02:25:047 (3) - Move this 2 grids down. Anyways I suggest you to remake this and the previous one with the new algorhythm

Collab

01:10:177 (2,4) - Too near to the previous sliders, move both one grid down
01:27:395 (4,1) - I really don't like the gap between these two notes, you should add some notes here...
01:44:351 (1,2,3,4) - The blankets can be just a bit better
02:02:612 (6,7) - This blanket can be better, too
02:27:917 (4) - Instead of that repeat, what about putting a note in the center?

Extra

00:08:351 - A sound is clearly udible on this big, white line, so what about adding a note?
00:11:743 (2,3,4) - This stack can be a bit confusing
00:21:395 (3,7) - Whistles here?
00:23:482 (3) - ^
00:25:569 (3) - ^
00:44:873 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Well, when I play this map I always miss this part, I suggest you to unstack at least the 1/4 stream
01:06:786 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm is wrong imo, I suggest you to make the same rhythm yo used here! 01:10:960 (1,2,3,4) It sounds much better
01:36:786 (5) - Not symmetric with the center
01:46:177 (7,8,9,10,11) - This is so nazi! It's readable but it's 230 BPM and the spacing is huge...
01:51:134 (3) - Isn't this supposed to be in 96|72?
02:22:047 - Add a note?

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The map is really funny, you just have to fix some ugly things like overlaps, blakets and so on. Take my star and good luck :]

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Poggo 2013-03-30T10:35:53+00:00

Thank you for mod, but no changes for my parts ^^'

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-04-01T15:21:49+00:00

SPOILER

RikiH_ wrote:
m4m from my queue!
Normal

00:08:873 (2) - I'd make it a bit curved, like the previous one sure, why not
00:10:960 (2,3) - You can make this blanket a bit better don't know if I really suceeded here
00:37:569 (1,2) - Uhm, I'm not sure about this overlap... It's a bit ugly mhh, changed it a bit but not too much
00:38:612 (1) - You can make this better with the new algorhythm haha, right, this was mapped before the new algorythm was introduced^^
00:45:134 (4) - I think the spacing is wrong here... Move this note 1 grid right thanks for pointing this out
01:03:395 (2) - This overlap... Can you move this one grid right? if it really bugs you that much, sure
01:42:786 (2) - Ctrl+g? no, I think due to the repetitive music pattern here something repetitive is needed in the map aswell

Extra

00:08:351 - A sound is clearly udible on this big, white line, so what about adding a note? yeah, true
00:11:743 (2,3,4) - This stack can be a bit confusing Tbh, I like stacks transforming into spaced streams. Furthermore it supports the music quite nicely imo (first some stagnancy and then it becomes fast).
00:21:395 (3,7) - Whistles here? uh, it has been so long since I hitsounded this, I can't really remember the reasons behind my patterns anymore, so I am just applying your suggestions here D:
00:23:482 (3) - ^ sure
00:25:569 (3) - ^ ^
00:44:873 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Well, when I play this map I always miss this part, I suggest you to unstack at least the 1/4 stream ah, I think it fit perfectly but since many people has been complaining about this already I guess I am just unstacking the stream ;_;
01:06:786 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm is wrong imo, I suggest you to make the same rhythm yo used here! 01:10:960 (1,2,3,4) It sounds much better o.o you are completely right
01:36:786 (5) - Not symmetric with the center adjusted
01:46:177 (7,8,9,10,11) - This is so nazi! It's readable but it's 230 BPM and the spacing is huge... :(((((
01:51:134 (3) - Isn't this supposed to be in 96|72? no, this was intended
02:22:047 - Add a note? hm, not sure where to put it...don't think it is really necessary anyway

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The map is really funny, you just have to fix some ugly things like overlaps, blakets and so on. Take my star and good luck :]

Thank you so much for this really helpful mod and the star! You'll get your kudos once the others reply to your post.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-04-02T15:25:06+00:00

RikiH_ wrote:
Collab

01:27:395 (4,1) - I really don't like the gap between these two notes, you should add some notes here... ~well, im strictly following the music here so I dont think theres any problem
02:02:612 (6,7) - This blanket can be better, too ~welll,,, putting the slider closer = looks ugly
changing slider position = doesnt fit with (5) anymore so no ;A;

no changes, but thanks :O

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-04-02T15:49:38+00:00

RikiH wrote:
phaZ's Easy

00:16:177 (4,1) - This blanket can be better in my opinion is better now (:
01:00:525 (3,4) - I don't like this, it's a bit ugly :O explain closer
01:03:656 (3) - You can make this better with the new algorhythm fixed
01:31:830 (4,5) - Stack these perfectly don
01:54:786 (6) - Do you need the whistle here? why not?

thanks!
http://puu.sh/2sybt (fu

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phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-04-28T08:09:54+00:00

[Collab]

00:05:221 (3,4,5) - it ok to play but still a little bit weird, because actually the pronouncing is on 00:05:221 and on 00:05:612. but one time you have it on the head and second (the strange one) is on the tail. it should have the same rythm like 0:07:308 (4,5)
00:08:351 (1) - waaay to loud >.<! I suggest

- drum-hitfinish + 30% vol, on:[list:9088c]00:08:351 (1)
00:09:134 (4)
00:10:177 (8) - start and end
00:10:177 (8) - start and end
00:10:177 (8)

- or from 00:08:417 to 00:11:482 - 30% vol. and on every beat normal-hitnormal (+ drum-hitfinish)
- and then on 00:11:482 50% vol. again, and add normal-hitnormal on every beat. 00:11:873 (3) - also add drum-hitfinish
- use the drum hitsound which is used at 02:11:351- 00:13:960 (2,3) - the rythm is again a bit weird here, because one time you have the pronouncing on head(circle) and on time on tail. you - should switch (3) and (2)
- from 00:12:525 to 00:13:960 (2,3) - i dont like this claps, they have much more weight than they should have. instead of "sampleset: normal" + clap i suggest "additions: normal" + clap. And maybe instead of the "sampleset: normal" (without hitsounds) you can (also) use "additions: drum" + finish
- 00:14:612 (1) - instead of this one i would like to see a cirlce(00:14:612) and a 1/2-slider(00:14:873), it feels better imo
- 00:15:917 (1) - also a bit weird (they are all a bit weird), it is pronounced on 00:16:047 but here isnt even a beat.
- 00:36:525 (6) - actually the slider must be there :S
- 01:16:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice pattern, but that sliders start on red ticks, which why it is a bit ugly to play. I suggest something similiar to this
- 01:27:917 (1) - the break and the 1/1-slider doesn't fit very well
- 01:48:004 (2) - this slider should be on 140;260
- 01:47:743 (1,2,3) - two pronounces which are similiar. the first slider is pronounced on the tail. what about making this?
- 01:52:960 (4,5) and 01:53:351 (6,7) - why do make such offbeats here? the rhythm is 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2,
not 3/4+3/4 nor 1/4+1/2+1/4+1/2
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overall, the diff is nice to play, but some parts are a bit strange.

Last edited by phaZ 2013-06-30T18:01:20+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

SkyDevil

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SkyDevil 2013-04-28T21:15:37+00:00

EDIT: 1300th post

phaZ wrote:
[Collab]

00:05:221 (3,4,5) - it ok to play but still a little bit weird, because actually the pronouncing is on 00:05:221 and on 00:05:612. but one time you have it on the head and second (the strange one) is on the tail. it should have the same rythm like 0:07:308 (4,5) ~Ill keep this one, because I dont think this is like weird or something @A@
00:08:351 (1) - waaay to loud >.<! I suggest

- drum-hitfinish + 30% vol, on:[list:0938c]00:08:351 (1)
00:09:134 (4)
00:10:177 (8) - start and end
00:10:177 (8) - start and end
00:10:177 (8)
- or from 00:08:417 to 00:11:482 - 30% vol. and on every beat normal-hitnormal (+ drum-hitfinish)
- and then on 00:11:482 50% vol. again, and add normal-hitnormal on every beat. 00:11:873 (3) - also add drum-hitfinish
- use the drum hitsound which is used at 02:11:351 ~tbh, I dont like the idea of those hitsounding ;w; I just think hitsoundless is the best thing imo, just lowered the hitsound volume a bit~
- 00:13:960 (2,3) - the rythm is again a bit weird here, because one time you have the pronouncing on head(circle) and on time on tail. you - should switch (3) and (2) ~If you mean the hitsounding = pronouncing then you got it wrong, its just a rhythm~ Im following the music here correctly =w=
- from 00:12:525 to 00:13:960 (2,3) - i dont like this claps, they have much more weight than they should have. instead of "sampleset: normal" + clap i suggest "additions: normal" + clap. And maybe instead of the "sampleset: normal" (without hitsounds) you can (also) use "additions: drum" + finish ~sorry ;A; i really want to stay at my way of hitsounding...
- 00:14:612 (1) - instead of this one i would like to see a cirlce(00:14:612) and a 1/2-slider(00:14:873), it feels better imo ~noo too much 1/2 ;A;
- 00:15:917 (1) - also a bit weird (they are all a bit weird), it is pronounced on 00:16:047 but here isnt even a beat. ~idk ;A; the music is kinda difficult to find in here, but I kinda think it sounds well
- 01:16:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nice pattern, but that sliders start on red ticks, which why it is a bit ugly to play. I suggest something similiar to this
- 01:27:917 (1) - the break and the 1/1-slider doesn't fit very well ~I do could find the music in here well, its following it exactly
- 01:48:004 (2) - this slider should be on 140;260 ~fixed
- 01:47:743 (1,2,3) - two pronounces which are similiar. the first slider is pronounced on the tail. what about making this? ~seriously i suck at pronouncing k I dont think anyone like this ;A;
- 01:52:960 (4,5) and 01:53:351 (6,7) - why do make such offbeats here? the rhythm is 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2,
not 3/4+3/4 nor 1/4+1/2+1/4+1/2 ~isnt it currently like that =w=?
[]
overall, the diff is good to play, but some parts are a bit strange.

;A; sorry I barely fixed anything.. I dont like pronounce stuff, since I doubt alot of people will notice them while playing...

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128,136,117134,5,0,0:0:0:0:
88,312,117395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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464,208,118960,6,0,P|528:248|504:312,1,150
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112,296,120786,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,40,121308,5,0,0:0:0:0:
32,192,121569,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,121830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,192,122090,2,0,L|424:248,1,75
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272,152,123004,2,0,L|216:208,1,75,0|4,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
56,96,123395,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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368,192,124177,2,0,L|368:280,1,75
432,128,124438,2,0,L|432:40,1,75
504,280,124830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
435,324,124961,2,0,P|372:352|300:324,1,150
432,128,125482,5,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,125743,2,0,P|200:216|144:152,1,150
16,360,126264,2,0,L|112:360,1,75
235,304,126525,2,0,L|160:304,1,75
256,56,126917,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,56,127047,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,236,127308,6,0,P|436:160|384:132,1,150,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,56,127830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
107,134,128090,2,0,P|76:160|124:236,1,150
256,164,128612,6,0,L|256:252,1,75
256,316,128873,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,304,129004,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,228,129134,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,88,129395,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,24,129656,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,88,129917,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,228,130177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,300,130438,6,0,P|56:336|116:352,1,75
156,328,130699,2,0,P|187:347|240:316,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,268,130960,2,0,P|284:260|300:200,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,168,131221,2,0,P|283:136|252:83,2,75,8|8|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,60,131743,5,0,0:0:0:0:
52,164,132004,1,8,0:0:0:0:
156,272,132264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,168,132525,6,0,L|280:60,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,116,132786,2,0,L|388:48,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,108,133047,2,0,L|496:60,2,75,0|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
456,180,133438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,252,133569,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,316,133830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,252,134090,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,80,134351,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,80,134612,6,0,P|368:116|361:153,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,120,134873,2,0,P|252:112|289:118,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,264,135134,2,0,P|244:228|250:190,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,224,135395,2,0,P|360:232|322:225,2,75,4|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,80,135917,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,188,136177,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,80,136438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,224,136699,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,348,136960,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,348,137090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,224,137351,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,148,137482,6,0,B|408:108|408:108|396:64,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,148,137743,2,0,B|104:108|104:108|116:64,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,52,138004,2,0,L|256:72,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,52,138264,2,0,L|256:72,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,148,138525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,224,138656,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,288,138786,6,0,B|324:316|324:316|372:316,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,288,139047,2,0,B|188:316|188:316|140:316,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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60,120,140090,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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424,220,141395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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180,104,142438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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332,104,142960,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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424,292,144786,2,0,L|360:224,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,136,145047,6,0,P|348:116|352:64,1,75
192,136,145308,2,0,P|164:116|160:64,2,75,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,276,145830,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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336,276,147656,2,0,P|388:300|420:292,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,112,147917,2,0,P|364:60|356:28,2,75,4|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148243,12,0,149221,0:0:0:0:

P o M u T a

2,284 posts

Joined December 2010

P o M u T a 2013-04-29T12:39:31+00:00

little found error.
[General]
Add tag ''black_cherry_ita'' you forget. (Easy,Hard,Collab,CTB)

[Collab]
02:04:961 (6) - Unsnapped slider (start).

[Extra]
02:27:265 (2) - Unsnapped circle.
02:27:526 (4) - Unsnapped circle.
01:47:743 (3) - play mode over screen.

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-04-29T16:32:36+00:00

.
obviously, no kd

Last edited by phaZ 2013-06-30T17:58:05+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-04-29T19:16:51+00:00

@ P o M u T a: fixed everything, thanks!

@ phaZ: these underscores are the correct way of putting terms with multiple words in the tags

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-06-01T13:09:01+00:00

Extra - Hitsounds

Extra

-00:14:612 - finish doesnt fit u.u (but its okay here~)
-00:37:308 - the finish here is so ugly, i could even rage x.x ;w;
-01:06:264 (3,4) - whistles on the tails
-01:07:308 bis 01:15:134 - whistleoveruse. you have here the same amount of whistles like at 01:06:264, although
_ there really should be more. remove every second (only whistles, where claps are in the background).
-01:19:047 (4) - whislte on tail
-01:29:743 bis 01:36:004 - overuse of whistles :c sounds ugly. would let stay whistles only on the "claps"
-01:38:090 (1) - addtion: normal!
-01:40:047 (5) - here is a lonly whistle, wich is propably not supposed to be there, but still sounds nice, make more of them
-01:50:612 (1) - should be addtion: normal on it
-01:52:047 (2) - add on head a whistle~~, wenn nicht sogar noch aufs ende von (1)~~
-01:54:395 (3,5) - add on (5) a whistle, maybe even on (3)
-01:54:786 bis 02:11:221 - you have added hitsounds at 01:25:569 bis 01:29:743, but no here~.
_ (i prefer the opposite - no hitsounds at 01:25:569 to 01:29:743 - but well O: ...)
-02:11:221 - section to "S:C1". use instead "additions drum". sounds better
-02:19:830 (1) - like at the other "door_slam-in-background" you should add here a normal finish, too -> means addtion: normal
-02:26:221 - put the previous section to here
-> 02:26:090 - add section, which is 45% lower, sample=N:C1
-> copy for the both other parts
-> do that, so the very last 5 circles (with normal-hitnormal) arent so sudenly/unexpected. also its sounds coool^^. also
_ the transition would sound horrible (first 3 supercute whistles, then brutal normal-hitnormal)
-02:27:656 (1) - if you do ^this^ : whislte, addition=soft
- Overall:

- you could increase volume by 5% overall
- soft-finishes are way louder than the other remaining beats. should ~10% lower (exceptions are parts like 00:14:612)

_ no kd

_ Edit: english now

Last edited by phaZ 2013-06-30T17:56:14+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Smoothie

569 posts

Joined August 2011

Smoothie 2013-06-30T14:46:52+00:00

Heya~
From my modding queue

[Collab]
00:08:351 (1) - Is that drum intended?
00:26:743 (3) - I think it sounds nicer without the whistle on the slider start.
00:58:960 ~ 01:06:656 These claps are really loud imo. Please consider reducing the volume to 60-50%. :c
01:16:960 (6) - The clap sould be on the slider start.
01:27:395 (4) - I recommend you to add a slider here instead that ends at 01:27:656. It plays way better.
01:44:351 (1,2) - Blanket them better?
01:44:873 (3,4) - ^
01:55:308 (2) - Add a whistle on the slider end.
01:56:612 (6) - Whistle on the slider start.
01:57:656 (3) - ^
01:58:569 (6) - Whistle on the reverse.
01:59:482 (2) - Whistle on the end.
02:00:786 (5) - A slider instead that ends at 02:01:047 Just as i mentioned above.
02:01:830 (3) - Add a whistle here.
02:02:612 (6) - Whistle on the slider end~
02:03:917 ~ 02:11:090 - Add whistle on the same rhythm as i suggested above~
02:19:569 (4) - Finish on the slider end~

[Extra]
00:34:438 (1) - Whistle on the slider start~
00:34:830 (2) - Whistle on the slider Start and end.
01:31:047 (2) - Can you place them somewhere else? This one kinda kills the flow stacked like that.
01:31:438 (4) - ^
01:35:221 (2) - ^
01:35:612 (4) - ^
01:46:177 (7,8,9,10,1) - That spacing might be a bit too much.
01:55:047 ~ 02:10:960 I recommend you adding the whistle the same way as i mentioned on the Collab diff.
02:22:960 (1,2) - A slider with a reverse instead?
02:23:351 (3,4) - ^

[BCI's Hard]
00:16:177 (5) - Remove the whistle on the slider end. I don't think it fits.
00:27:395 (1) - Finish on the slider end~
00:28:960 (6) - Finish on the slider start.
00:50:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why don't you arrange this star pattern to the center?
00:54:264 (1) - Whistle on the slider end~
00:55:308 (2) - ^
00:57:786 (6,7) - Why is the spacing here different to 00:56:351 (1,2,3,4,5)?
02:15:917 - Add a note here?

[Normal]
00:04:177 (1) - Whistle on the slider start?
00:05:221 (3) - Remove the whistle on the slider trail please. It doesn't fit so well.
00:07:308 (4) - ^
00:09:395 (3) - ^
00:27:134 (1) - Whistle on the slider start~
00:27:525 (2) - ^
00:28:177 (3) - ^
01:13:047 (1) - Remove whistle on the slider trail.

[phaZ' Easy]
00:16:699 (1) - Should end at 00:17:482
00:45:395 (2) - Remove the whistle on the slider trail~
01:10:960 (1) - Whistle on the slider end
02:17:743 (2) - Looks a bit crumbled. Also, remove the whistle on the trail.
02:28:177 ~ 02:29:221 - This Kiai Time isn't really necessary.

That's all
Good Luck!

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-06-30T16:10:14+00:00

Smoothie (Easy)

Smoothie wrote:
[phaZ' Easy]
00:16:699 (1) - Should end at 00:17:482 yeah, dunno why this wasnt it already
00:45:395 (2) - Remove the whistle on the slider trail~nah, its done on pourpose - music volume increases. i remove it eventually if it has some influence on gameplay
01:10:960 (1) - Whistle on the slider end yea
02:17:743 (2) - Looks a bit crumbled \:D/ corrected. Also, remove the whistle on the trail. no, it supports player to differentiate (2) from (3) (hitting in correct time..)
02:28:177 ~ 02:29:221 - This Kiai Time isn't really necessary.[color=#BB0000]its not really necessary but you still see the flash when the spinner ends
thank you!

thx...

thanks!
phaZ' Easy is just a "click" away rofl

Tshemmp

_ und bittebittebitttebitte ändere hier die hitsound reihenfolge:

variante 1:[list:7b542]02:19:177 (5) - hier finish rein
02:19:569 (7) - finish raus

variante 2:

02:19:177 (5) - finish rein
02:19:308 (6) - finish raus
02:19:569 (7) - (hier nur vielleicht) extra finish auf ende
02:19:830 (1) - sampleset: Normal

variante 3:

02:19:177 (5) - finish rein
02:19:308 (6) - finish raus
02:19:569 (7) - finish am anfang raus, (hier nur vielleicht) extra finish auf ende
02:19:830 (1) - sampleset: Normal oder Soft (also so lassen)

_ :C

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-06-30T17:26:25+00:00

SPOILER

Smoothie wrote:
[Extra]
00:34:438 (1) - Whistle on the slider start~ okay
00:34:830 (2) - Whistle on the slider Start and end. okay
01:31:047 (2) - Can you place them somewhere else? This one kinda kills the flow stacked like that. okay
01:31:438 (4) - ^ okay
01:35:221 (2) - ^ okay
01:35:612 (4) - ^ okay
01:46:177 (7,8,9,10,1) - That spacing might be a bit too much. :c I really want to keep this :c
01:55:047 ~ 02:10:960 I recommend you adding the whistle the same way as i mentioned on the Collab diff. I guess that means on every 4th beat in each measure? done
02:22:960 (1,2) - A slider with a reverse instead? okay
02:23:351 (3,4) - ^ okay

[Normal]
00:04:177 (1) - Whistle on the slider start? okay
00:05:221 (3) - Remove the whistle on the slider trail please. It doesn't fit so well. okay
00:07:308 (4) - ^ okay
00:09:395 (3) - ^ okay
00:27:134 (1) - Whistle on the slider start~ okay
00:27:525 (2) - ^ okay
00:28:177 (3) - ^ okay
01:13:047 (1) - Remove whistle on the slider trail. okay

Thank you very much!

@ phaZ: Naaahh, I changed something but not in the way you wanted.

[Luanny]

8,248 posts

Joined April 2011

[Luanny] 2013-06-30T18:15:38+00:00

you shouldn't use newgrounds as source o.o it's like using bandcamp or youtube as source.
it's just the site where the song was uploaded.

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-06-30T18:28:59+00:00

[Luanny] wrote:
you shouldn't use newgrounds as source o.o it's like using bandcamp or youtube as source.
it's just the site where the song was uploaded.

Ah ok, thanks, I will change it. I was just doing it like in this beatmap here: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/42038.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-07-02T23:02:57+00:00

uh tshemmp did you add whistles to my part (and katty pie's part) in collab? ;w; ( 01:55:047 - to 02:10:177 - )

I actually dislike them ;w; please remove them ;w;

and about smoothie's mod, im currently very confident with the hitsounding, so im not changing anything, sorry ;A; Still thanks for modding though. (I cant say anything about 01:55:047 - and after btw)

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-07-03T05:34:42+00:00

I am sorry SkyDevil, I haven't really seen you online recently so I applied the changes on my own. I will revert them as soon as possible, sorry again. ;w;

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-07-03T09:51:06+00:00

huuu? ;w; im still online everyday xD

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-07-03T10:16:32+00:00

Then I am getting old apperantly...

bomber34

1,529 posts

Joined February 2011

bomber34 2013-07-06T00:14:50+00:00

Und so wurde diese Map 1 Jahr alt und auch wenn sie derbe goil ist, ist sie einem Rank weit entfernt ;w;

p3n

Global Moderator

947 posts

Joined June 2009

p3n 2013-08-09T20:34:08+00:00

bomber34 wrote:
Und so wurde diese Map 1 Jahr alt und auch wenn sie derbe goil ist, ist sie einem Rank weit entfernt ;w;

Na dann beleben wir den Laden hier mal wieder ein bisschen

mod requested by bomber

[phaZ's Easy]
Rename diff to phaZ's Easy because the posessive s after s/z shouldn't ne left out after names.
01:10:438 (5,1) - avoid stacking and too much overlap in beginners difficulties. Try to spread this out a bit (different directions for both sliders)
01:14:612 (5,1) - ^same

Otherwise very decent Easy-diff. It is a bit on the harder side with the different beat patterns and the rather tight spacings (I would have mapped with slightly higher SV and 1,1x or 1,2x spacing to avoid the partial overlaps for 1/1 notes but it is still ok and I think it is easy enough to read for beginners).

[Normal]
00:12:004 (4,1) - personally, I would avoid a kickslider that follows into the next combo on a 1/2 note in a 230BPM NORMAL map. I'd recommend just using a normal slider or a slider with a "w" shape but keep the 1/2 transition
00:50:090 (1,2) - a better match for the piano would be circle followed by 1/1 slider: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/917754

Nice and clean.

[BCI's Hard]
00:06:264 (4,5,1) - why the odd NC settings? Keeping the NC on the downbeat should work just fine here.
00:14:612 (6,1) - ^same
00:24:525 (4,5,1) - spacing seems a bit off here. I did find very few other 1/2 transition in the first half with higher than ~0,4x spacing. In the 2nd half it seems the higher spacing is the dominant one but it seems too random to be a consistent pattern. I'd prefer to see all the 1/2 spacings consistent throughout this map (compressed like 00:07:569 (3,4,5) - OR spread out like 01:38:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
00:26:090 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^same
00:49:047 - drag the breaktime ending to this downbeat. It matches the buildup.
00:52:177 (3,4,5) - again I'd prefer a consistent 1/2 compressed pattern throughout the map to make the whole thing a bit more consistent gameplay wise.
01:02:090 (5,6,1,2,3) - ^same
01:04:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^same
01:06:395 (6) - I'm not sure how to feel about ending a kickslider like this one on a pronounced downbeat. It should play much better with an actual hit-action on this downbeat (especially if the player doesn't know the song)
01:08:612 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - again the spacing difference compared to the compressed style you use mostly in this map
01:12:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^same
01:16:438 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ♥
01:29:743 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing difference compared to the compressed 1/2 notes
01:29:743 (1,2) - and 01:31:830 (1,2) - double repeating sliders almost never fit. Especially not when used for straight forward 4/4 beats like this. It is much better to use 2 seperate no-repeat sliders here instead.
01:37:308 (3,4,5) - and 01:38:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - again the spacing difference compared to other 1/2 transitions
01:40:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^same
02:07:308 (1,2,3) - this is the 3rd different kind of 1/2 note transition in this map. I didn't count 00:09:134 (2,3,4) - because the pattern makes it very hard to use appropriate spacings here. But nonetheless having all those different spacings for one and the same time-distance is nothing you should ever do. It doesn't make your map "harder" or "more interesting" it is just confusing and inconsistent. I don't know how long it took to map this but it seems the different parts were made over a longer time preriod because they are so different from each other. The differently styled parts themselves are not bad but mashing those different styles together without any context just feels "wrong". You should take another look at everything and decide for yourself what style you want to use throughout this map.

To give one last example in the later part of the map: 02:14:873 (3,4) - vs 02:13:047 (4,5,1) - decide what you want to do but avoid doing everything random (because that would be just really bad

)

Otherwise most parts of this map have a nice flow and are mostly fitting the music.

[Collab]
It is really weird to see a collab for a map that doesn't include the one who is submitting the mapset. But since I'm not here to bubble this you'll have to argue with someone else later.
00:19:177 (2,3,4,5) - slider starting points on red ticks. Avoid at all costs for 1/2 spamming in simple 4/4 maps without something like the melody specifically working in that way. This will ALWAYS play horrible because the player is forced to tap between the actual beats! If the song doesn't support any interesting beat patterns because it is straight forward 4/4 without much variation in terms of melody then at least keep the 1/2 spam on beat. It can be done when supported by the melody like here 00:35:090 (1,2,3) - (even tho it is NOT recommended and there are much better ways to map this without overusing the off-beats)
00:29:221 (9,1) - this transition between the two parts has to be changed. 1st: NC should be on the downbeat 00:29:221 - 2nd: to make it a bit more consistent you should also START with a slider for this phrase and pattern because that is what it is: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/917927
00:34:699 (5) - try moving this slider on the same position as 00:34:438 (4) - to increase the spacing to the following combo. Right now you have the same distance and even same position for 1/1 spaced sliders (00:34:699 (5,1) - ) and 1/2 spaced sliders (00:35:090 (1,2) - ). This kind of placement should be avoided at all costs.
00:36:656 (1,2,3) - again slider starting points on red ticks without any support. Use the downbeat to start the sliders and go with your 1/2 pattern from there.
00:49:047 - drag the ending of the breaktime to this downbeat to match the song
01:34:960 (1,2) - weird to leave out the dominant melody part on 01:35:351 - . Would be nice if you can somehow re-arrange the pattern to fit it in.
01:41:351 (2,3,4) - again slider starting points on red ticks without change in rhythm pattern. Also try to use a 1/4 repeating slider instead of 01:41:351 (2) - just like you did with 01:40:308 (2) - to match the melody (yes it is ok to start THIS one on the red tick)
01:53:743 (8,1,2,3,4,5) - again ignored downbeat and sliders starting on the red ticks
01:55:699 (3,4,5) - ^same
01:57:656 (3,4,5,6) - ^same

I try to keep this as short and as simple as possible because just listing every small part that should be improved to raise the quality of this map would be a stupid wall of text. Here are the key elements you HAVE to rework:

Sliding over downbeats and starting 1/2 slider chains on red ticks.
Both things are considered bad or even "wrong" mapping style. The downbeats (the long white lines on the timeline) mark the beginning of phrases and therefore are essential for the gameplay of any rhythm game. You should always try to make the player do something on these (starting a slider or setting a circle). Ending spinners on downbeats can be done in some situations. Ending sliders on downbeats should be avoided if possible and is usually only acceptable for beginner's difficulties with really long sliders and consisting mainly of 1/1 notes. This is a general rule of thumb for simple 4/4 beats like the one in this song.

Setting NCs randomly on red/blue ticks directly after downbeats
For simple beats like this your NCs should generally reflect the baseline and/or the chords. If your NCs don't start on a downbeat (long white line in timeline) then it is almost always wrong. Listen to the chords of the song and try to arrange your combo pattern accordingly. If you encounter parts were it is hard to make a distinction based on chords just look for ways to keep the baseline or phrases inside one combo each or pair them. Sometimes it can be good to increase readability of patterns by adding a NC mid-phrase to make jumps or spacing/timing changes more visible.

Spacing consistency
If you ignore spacing in favor of symmetry or good looking patterns, you are doing it wrong. It can be done but it is a thin line. Usually if you ignore spacing and go for symmetry only your map will play bumpy and unintuitive. Keep your spacings consistent and increase/decrease spacings only for parts that match something in the song (using jumps for certain beats - but be sure to use them consistently throughout the map).

Yes this collab still needs a lot of work.

[Extra]
00:26:351 (3,4,5,6) - try stacking (6) on the the ending of (5) just like you did with (3,4) to increase consistency and create an actual pattern for this combo
00:55:308 (1) - remove this NC because the melody keeps going for this part and there is no beat in the background to justify the start of a new combo
00:56:482 (2,3,4) - 1/2 spam sliders starting on red ticks for 4/4 beats....there is no shift in the melody here

01:46:177 (7) - maybe add NC here to make the change from 1/2 to 1/4 more readable

Otherwise solid map. Some really nice patterns and a slightly bumpy yet consistent flow with consistent "breaking points" (stacks).

[bomber's CtB Overdose]

I guess it is fine? Auto can clear it and I have no experience in CtB whatsoever

Here Tshemmp, revive this and you'll get another star! Maybe help your collab-mappers a bit. Hope you don't give up on this map because 'Extra', 'Normal' and 'Hard' are really good with minor inconsistencies in 'Hard' that should be easy to fix as long as BCI can finally decide what style to use

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-08-09T21:43:47+00:00

p3n

p3n wrote:
bomber34 wrote:
Und so wurde diese Map 1 Jahr alt und auch wenn sie derbe goil ist, ist sie einem Rank weit entfernt ;w;
Na dann beleben wir den Laden hier mal wieder ein bisschen yeah

mod requested by bomber muss auch noch mal ein paar leute fragen

[phaZ's Easy]
Rename diff to phaZ's Easy because the posessive s after s/z shouldn't ne left out after names.
01:10:438 (5,1) - avoid stacking and too much overlap in beginners difficulties. Try to spread this out a bit (different directions for both sliders)
01:14:612 (5,1) - ^same~~i will keep this in mind but i have no idea how to replace them~~ EDIT: changed it
@Tshemmp:
00:08:351 (1) - place a circle (NC) at 320;212 and remove NC on circle behind it. here was really missing something and even i had (when being unconcentrated) misshitted the next circle x)
01:02:090 - add greenline=30%, slider end kriegt normal clap

Otherwise very decent Easy-diff. It is a bit on the harder side with the different beat patterns and the rather tight spacings (I would have mapped with slightly higher SV and 1,1x or 1,2x spacing to avoid the partial overlaps for 1/1 notes but it is still ok and I think it is easy enough to read for beginners).

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Tshemmp

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Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-08-10T14:35:11+00:00

SPOILER

p3n wrote:
[Normal]
00:12:004 (4,1) - personally, I would avoid a kickslider that follows into the next combo on a 1/2 note in a 230BPM NORMAL map. I'd recommend just using a normal slider or a slider with a "w" shape but keep the 1/2 transition done
00:50:090 (1,2) - a better match for the piano would be circle followed by 1/1 slider: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/917754 while I understand your reasoning I feel the clicking rhythm in your version quite awkward (on 1, 2 and 4; leaving out the 3 while having 2 and 4 feels a bit weird imo), I like mine more (on 1, 3 and 4)

[Extra]
00:26:351 (3,4,5,6) - try stacking (6) on the the ending of (5) just like you did with (3,4) to increase consistency and create an actual pattern for this combo done
00:55:308 (1) - remove this NC because the melody keeps going for this part and there is no beat in the background to justify the start of a new combo I really don't know, I am putting NCs every new measure...
00:56:482 (2,3,4) - 1/2 spam sliders starting on red ticks for 4/4 beats....there is no shift in the melody here fixed
01:46:177 (7) - maybe add NC here to make the change from 1/2 to 1/4 more readable done

Here Tshemmp, revive this and you'll get another star! Maybe help your collab-mappers a bit. Hope you don't give up on this map because 'Extra', 'Normal' and 'Hard' are really good with minor inconsistencies in 'Hard' that should be easy to fix as long as BCI can finally decide what style to use Revived, but I don't know what to do with the Collab. Also, regarding the spacing issues in BCI's Hard, I really think they are fine, it adds some variety without being stupid imo.

Thank you very much p3n for this really helpful mod.

@phaZ: done

TheVileOne

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TheVileOne 2013-08-11T22:01:03+00:00

m4m

General

pHaZ's Easy
Although i may want you to implement some of my suggestions, everything I said here is entirely optional.

00:30:264 (2,4) - This combo feels so quiet without any hitsounds applied. Whistles to the ends of these would break up the quiet.
00:37:569 (1,2,3,4) - Beat is too simplified for my taste. I tried to make it more interesting by adding a note in between 1,2, and 3,4 and formed V patterns with them. I rather liked how it played and it would still be simpler than the following pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/921986 It would be nice if you added a whistle after every third note as well.
01:10:960 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm not sure why you decide to ignore the 2,4 rhythm here. I think it sounds better to have whistles on the second and fourth white ticks. I think it sounds better for 1 and 2 and it could go either way for the end of 3. If you want to be consistent with 01:15:134 (1,2,3) - you would need to add a whistle to the end of 1 and add a whistle to 2.
01:14:612 (5) - End with a whistle to be consistent with 01:10:438 (5) -
02:19:830 (1) - Even with my volume jacked, the volume of this note is negligible. I suggest not having the volume drop this much. I suggest increasing to 25-30% Only need to adjust this volume as its the first sound coming off the previous rhythm.

Normal
Please fix the spacing and consistency issues I have mentioned. I have pointed out valid issues that will make your beatmap better if fixed.

00:10:438 (1,2,3) - Very small issue, but it sort of bothers me that the blankets here are different widths. the first blanket is fairly large compared to the second blanket. You can certainly get the first blanket spaced closer if you turn grid snap off. It's probably alright if the first blanket is a bit wider than the second one, but not as much as it is currently. Here are the coordinates I got 00:10:960 (2) - x 265 y 303 00:11:482 (3) - x 378 y 191
00:19:830 (3,4) - blanket width is too close. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922061 <Please make it like this.
00:20:873 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Spacing is shifting from 0.97 to 1.02. The spacing shouldn't be shifting by more than 0.02. Grid snap off and clean up the spacing.
00:36:004 (2,3) - Spacing is too close.
00:37:569 (1) - Should be hitsounded for consistency.
00:37:569 (1,2) - I don't care for blankets that are this close, but you may keep it if you want.
00:46:177 (1) - Quiet down the end tone a tad? It doesn't end on anything significant.
00:50:090 - Very bland without hitsounds. I highly recommend adding a whistle pattern here. Here is my suggestion: Lower this section to 45% and have a whistle here 00:50:612 (2) - and the end of 00:50:873 (3) - , and end of 00:52:177 (1) - . Basically a whistle on every second white tick after a measure start. also at the ends of 00:56:351 (1,2) - even though they skip over the second white tick.
00:58:438 - This section has amazing rhythm!
01:37:047 (3,4,5,6,1) - Is the spacing here supposed to get slowly larger here? It looks like a mistake when playing. If you need to use a spacing that is slightly larger than the standard distance snap and don't feel like adjusting more accurately using alt shift, turn grid snap and distance snap off and adjust manually. You can get all of these notes around 1.02 snap. http://puu.sh/3ZAKe.jpg
02:27:134 (3,4,5,6) - Spacing could be more consistent. I moved 4,5,6 to x 274 y 85 and it looks better.

BCI's Hard
A few issues here and there. Other than the deformed sliders, everything is just suggestions based on my thoughts about this or that part of the map.

00:28:438 (4,5,6) - I'm not sure why you have this curve here. To position the next combo? A straighter transition here would look better or even if just 5,6 were on the same level. What do you think?
00:44:351 (7) - I don't like the shape. it's not symmetrical. Also I feel like this slider should be a part of something. It doesn't contribute to a pattern. http://puu.sh/3ZC0c.jpg I like this better.
00:55:308 (2) - This slider is deformed!
01:03:134 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I'm not entirely sure, but I feel like this would be improved if it had a greater note curve. Try shifting the second triple patterns and combo slightly more to the left and down. i'm not sure it could work though because it throws off the spacing here 01:06:395 (6) -
01:35:351 (5,1) - Increase spacing slightly?
01:54:786 - Finish?
02:15:395 (4) - Make symmetrical?

Collab
This difficulty has it's good and bad parts. I think there was more good than bad. bomber wanted me to focus on this difficulty, but there is only so much I can say when I don't map intensely. My mapping style and habits are too different for this song for me to fully give a critique. I didn't like how some parts in the beginning suddenly changed to a slower beat with little warning. I think it's a probably that needs to be addressed, but I cannot assist you with that.
Edit: i'll try again when I've cleared my mind.

00:08:351 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Meh not a very interesting pattern. I highly recommend incorporating some sliders in this pattern and adding some whistles to set the tone. The stacks you have only accentuate the most uninteresting rhythm here .
00:15:134 (2,3,4) - I'm not getting any feedback having a double here. I have similar feelings about the other double, but that one is harder to tend to. This could be turned into an opposing slider pattern like you used in other parts of this section. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922200 I'm not sure though. My opinion is biased. I would prefer all the stacks here be sliders.
00:18:786 (1,2) - Perhaps you should focus on centering this side instead because its more visible than the other side of the pattern.
00:30:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You can tell this pattern's spacing and arc is inconsistent. Please make it better.
00:58:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Excellent flow usage here. Good job!
01:16:960 (6,1) - Flows so very badly.And it goes into a slower paced section that I didn't expect. Players are going to expect the level of difficulty to stay constant and think that the spacing is just increasing. If they get mislead by thinking this, they will screw up. I think that you need to ease players into a decreased pace by having a pattern at the previous spacing and then you can lower the spacing.
01:55:047 - I'm not sure if there should be more hitsounds during this part or not. The beat is recognizable without extra hitsounding. also there is a rogue whistle in the middle of the sea of nothingness. Either include more whistles throughout or remove the whistle.

Extra

00:07:308 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing.
00:17:612 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - It might just be me but i find this flows badly.I think it's because the sliders are faster than the spacing. Increasing the spacing seems to be better.
00:26:221 (2,3) - Please 1.1 spacing. The sliders are so bad with this type of gap.
00:32:873 (3) - Requires a small symmetry adjustment IMO.
00:37:830 (2,3) - I don't understand why there is a gap here
00:39:264 (4,5) - Spacing difference here.
01:00:917 (2,3) - Don't you think this flows kind of badly?
01:15:004 (7,1) - OMG this is so awkward. I think the pattern that requires this jump is ugly and not worth making. I think you should have an asymmetry pattern instead. you can use curves like 01:09:917 (1) -. Please lessen the spacing for whatever pattern you decide to use here. This is something I just through together as an example. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922298
02:05:090 (4,1,2,3) - such bad flow >.< Okay. This song is just getting beyond my skill level. I'm just going to stop my mod.

Good luck with this map.

Tshemmp

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Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2013-08-12T16:20:57+00:00

SPOILER

TheVileOne wrote:
Normal
Please fix the spacing and consistency issues I have mentioned. I have pointed out valid issues that will make your beatmap better if fixed.

00:10:438 (1,2,3) - Very small issue, but it sort of bothers me that the blankets here are different widths. the first blanket is fairly large compared to the second blanket. You can certainly get the first blanket spaced closer if you turn grid snap off. It's probably alright if the first blanket is a bit wider than the second one, but not as much as it is currently. Here are the coordinates I got 00:10:960 (2) - x 265 y 303 00:11:482 (3) - x 378 y 191 done
00:19:830 (3,4) - blanket width is too close. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922061 <Please make it like this. although I don't agree with it being too close, I don't really care, so, done
00:20:873 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Spacing is shifting from 0.97 to 1.02. The spacing shouldn't be shifting by more than 0.02. Grid snap off and clean up the spacing. okay
00:36:004 (2,3) - Spacing is too close. fixed
00:37:569 (1) - Should be hitsounded for consistency. hm, this part differs quite enough from the previous one for me to justify a change in the hitsounding pattern
00:37:569 (1,2) - I don't care for blankets that are this close, but you may keep it if you want. small adjustment
00:46:177 (1) - Quiet down the end tone a tad? It doesn't end on anything significant. done
00:50:090 - Very bland without hitsounds. I highly recommend adding a whistle pattern here. Here is my suggestion: Lower this section to 45% and have a whistle here 00:50:612 (2) - and the end of 00:50:873 (3) - , and end of 00:52:177 (1) - . Basically a whistle on every second white tick after a measure start. also at the ends of 00:56:351 (1,2) - even though they skip over the second white tick. okay
00:58:438 - This section has amazing rhythm!
01:37:047 (3,4,5,6,1) - Is the spacing here supposed to get slowly larger here? It looks like a mistake when playing. If you need to use a spacing that is slightly larger than the standard distance snap and don't feel like adjusting more accurately using alt shift, turn grid snap and distance snap off and adjust manually. You can get all of these notes around 1.02 snap. http://puu.sh/3ZAKe.jpg adjusted
02:27:134 (3,4,5,6) - Spacing could be more consistent. I moved 4,5,6 to x 274 y 85 and it looks better. slightly changed

Extra

00:07:308 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing. fixed
00:17:612 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - It might just be me but i find this flows badly.I think it's because the sliders are faster than the spacing. Increasing the spacing seems to be better. small adjustments
00:26:221 (2,3) - Please 1.1 spacing. The sliders are so bad with this type of gap. okay
00:32:873 (3) - Requires a small symmetry adjustment IMO. uhm, fixed?
00:37:830 (2,3) - I don't understand why there is a gap here yeah, me neither
00:39:264 (4,5) - Spacing difference here. fixed
01:00:917 (2,3) - Don't you think this flows kind of badly? I think it flows fantastically
01:15:004 (7,1) - OMG this is so awkward. I think the pattern that requires this jump is ugly and not worth making. I think you should have an asymmetry pattern instead. you can use curves like 01:09:917 (1) -. Please lessen the spacing for whatever pattern you decide to use here. This is something I just through together as an example. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922298 meh, flow is a bit better now but on the downside it looks a bit uglier now
02:05:090 (4,1,2,3) - such bad flow >.< Okay. This song is just getting beyond my skill level. I'm just going to stop my mod.

Thank you very much!

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2013-08-12T17:21:09+00:00

TheVileOne

TheVileOne wrote:
m4m

General

phaZ's Easy
Although i may want you to implement some of my suggestions, everything I said here is entirely optional.

00:30:264 (2,4) - This combo feels so quiet without any hitsounds applied. Whistles to the ends of these would break up the quiet. hmmm... i would rather say no. the music doesnt feel like hitsounds are correct here. adding rythmically hitsounds in this pure melody... "it would destroy the melody" :S
00:37:569 (1,2,3,4) - Beat is too simplified for my taste. I tried to make it more interesting by adding a note in between 1,2, and 3,4 and formed V patterns with them. I rather liked how it played and it would still be simpler than the following pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/921986 It would be nice if you added a whistle after every third note as well.well the triols are some kind of "run-out" and then the excitement in the music increases constantly... also 1,2 isnt identical to 3,4 (in the music) and it would be wrong to do the same(and having only a circle in 1,2 would just be confusing because of its inconsistency). however letting both circles awey (between 1,2/3,4) seems to be less wrong to me as it is "simplifiying" the rhythm in the music at all..

i have no idea if you can understand me
01:10:960 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm not sure why you decide to ignore the 2,4 rhythm here. because it would be boring~ o: I think it sounds better to have whistles on the second and fourth white ticks. I think it sounds better for 1 and 2 and it could go either way for the end of 3 nah not if i keep they rhythm up in the way i have it atm, it wouldnt fit imo. If you want to be consistent with 01:15:134 (1,2,3) - you would need to add a whistle to the end of 1 and add a whistle to 2. oh thanks
01:14:612 (5) - End with a whistle to be consistent with 01:10:438 (5) -oh i had forgot it there

02:19:830 (1) - Even with my volume jacked, the volume of this note is negligible. I suggest not having the volume drop this much. I suggest increasing to 25-30% Only need to adjust this volume as its the first sound coming off the previous rhythm.thanks. yeah , it really sounded shitty, iadjusted it to 35%though i didnt have changed that much im really grateful for this mod

Last edited by phaZ 2013-09-08T08:12:46+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2013-08-13T17:28:55+00:00

Y u no tell me about mods xD am checking this later (katty pie should check her own parts ._.)

p3n wrote:
[Collab]
It is really weird to see a collab for a map that doesn't include the one who is submitting the mapset. But since I'm not here to bubble this you'll have to argue with someone else later. ~THat pendulum map that got ranked has a collab diff with not the mapper itself
00:19:177 (2,3,4,5) - slider starting points on red ticks. Avoid at all costs for 1/2 spamming in simple 4/4 maps without something like the melody specifically working in that way. This will ALWAYS play horrible because the player is forced to tap between the actual beats! If the song doesn't support any interesting beat patterns because it is straight forward 4/4 without much variation in terms of melody then at least keep the 1/2 spam on beat. It can be done when supported by the melody like here 00:35:090 (1,2,3) - (even tho it is NOT recommended and there are much better ways to map this without overusing the off-beats) ~honestly alot of maps have sliders starting on red ticks, I want to do this because if i made them all sliders it'll become too hard
00:29:221 (9,1) - this transition between the two parts has to be changed. 1st: NC should be on the downbeat 00:29:221 - 2nd: to make it a bit more consistent you should also START with a slider for this phrase and pattern because that is what it is: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/917927 ~seems more like something katty pie should handle...
00:49:047 - drag the ending of the breaktime to this downbeat to match the song
01:53:743 (8,1,2,3,4,5) - again ignored downbeat and sliders starting on the red ticks
01:55:699 (3,4,5) - ^same
01:57:656 (3,4,5,6) - ^same ~meh at all three of them

I try to keep this as short and as simple as possible because just listing every small part that should be improved to raise the quality of this map would be a stupid wall of text. Here are the key elements you HAVE to rework:

Sliding over downbeats and starting 1/2 slider chains on red ticks.
Both things are considered bad or even "wrong" mapping style. The downbeats (the long white lines on the timeline) mark the beginning of phrases and therefore are essential for the gameplay of any rhythm game. You should always try to make the player do something on these (starting a slider or setting a circle). Ending spinners on downbeats can be done in some situations. Ending sliders on downbeats should be avoided if possible and is usually only acceptable for beginner's difficulties with really long sliders and consisting mainly of 1/1 notes. This is a general rule of thumb for simple 4/4 beats like the one in this song.

~This is honestly the first time I ever saw someone complain about it ._. Im not sure how I should react to this :I

Setting NCs randomly on red/blue ticks directly after downbeats
For simple beats like this your NCs should generally reflect the baseline and/or the chords. If your NCs don't start on a downbeat (long white line in timeline) then it is almost always wrong. Listen to the chords of the song and try to arrange your combo pattern accordingly. If you encounter parts were it is hard to make a distinction based on chords just look for ways to keep the baseline or phrases inside one combo each or pair them. Sometimes it can be good to increase readability of patterns by adding a NC mid-phrase to make jumps or spacing/timing changes more visible.

~well uhh okay I guess I can fix that a bit ,,, thought Im not sureabout katty pie's part.. she seems to NC everytime she makes a new pattern..

Spacing consistency
If you ignore spacing in favor of symmetry or good looking patterns, you are doing it wrong. It can be done but it is a thin line. Usually if you ignore spacing and go for symmetry only your map will play bumpy and unintuitive. Keep your spacings consistent and increase/decrease spacings only for parts that match something in the song (using jumps for certain beats - but be sure to use them consistently throughout the map).

~I was a noob mapper back then ; A ; (I didnt know how spacing works and yet I managed to rank 2 guestdiffs and one map lol)

Yes this collab still needs a lot of work. ~meh >w>

TheVileOne wrote:
m4m

Collab
This difficulty has it's good and bad parts. I think there was more good than bad. bomber wanted me to focus on this difficulty, but there is only so much I can say when I don't map intensely. My mapping style and habits are too different for this song for me to fully give a critique. I didn't like how some parts in the beginning suddenly changed to a slower beat with little warning. I think it's a probably that needs to be addressed, but I cannot assist you with that.
Edit: i'll try again when I've cleared my mind. ~thaankss

00:08:351 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Meh not a very interesting pattern. I highly recommend incorporating some sliders in this pattern and adding some whistles to set the tone. The stacks you have only accentuate the most uninteresting rhythm here . ~I tried something o3o
00:15:134 (2,3,4) - I'm not getting any feedback having a double here. I have similar feelings about the other double, but that one is harder to tend to. This could be turned into an opposing slider pattern like you used in other parts of this section. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922200 I'm not sure though. My opinion is biased. I would prefer all the stacks here be sliders. ~I changed the first slider only
00:18:786 (1,2) - Perhaps you should focus on centering this side instead because its more visible than the other side of the pattern. ~uhh not sure what you mean butI tried something
00:58:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Excellent flow usage here. Good job! ~Thanks >w<
01:55:047 - I'm not sure if there should be more hitsounds during this part or not. The beat is recognizable without extra hitsounding. also there is a rogue whistle in the middle of the sea of nothingness. Either include more whistles throughout or remove the whistle. ~yeaah I did that accidently ;w ;

Thanks for mods both o3o

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Tags:Techno Trance bomber34 BCI black_cherry_ita phaZ SkyDevil Katty Pie
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Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2013-08-14T19:13:34+00:00

bomber's CTB Overdose

Man merkt, dass die Map bereits älter ist, jedoch hat sich an CTB Maps so einiges verändert. An einigen Stellen SOLLTE und MÜSSTE deine Map definitiv einen besseren Flow haben und ästhetischer aussehen. Einige Passagen sind einfach nicht schön zu spielen und man kann sie stark verbessern (Nein, das ist kein negatives Feedback, sondern ein freundlich gemeinter Hinweis.). Ich will darauf genauer in meinem Mod eingehen. Blau markierter Text bedeutet, dass ich dir dringend empfehle, es zu ändern. Roter Text bedeutet unrankable.
00:05:221 (1) - Würde ich etwas weiter nach rechts setzen, damit es mittig zwischen 00:05:090 (1) - und 00:05:351 (2) - liegt. 2 Grids nach rechts funktioniert und macht die Stelle ein bisschen flüssiger zu spielen.
00:14:482 (2) - Könnte weiter nach links, aus dem selben Grund wie im Punkt oben.
00:20:221 (2,1) - CTRL + G für beide Slider ist hier schöner, es macht sogar die Section noch etwas schwieriger mit den Jumps, die man hier bewältigen muss. Probier es einfach mal aus.
00:21:134 (1,1,2,1,2) - Einfach nicht besonders schön zu spielen. Da wir noch ziemlich am Anfang der Map sind, kann diese Stelle ruhig auch etwas einfacher sein, insbesondere weil hier nach viele weitere Streams folgen. Aber ich empfehle dir wirklich, diesen Stream zu verbessern. Dass manche Streams kaum spielbar sind, liegt daran, dass sie komplett waagerecht sind. Mach sie etwas diagonaler und die Sektionen sind angenehmer, aber dennoch schwierig genug für eine Overdose.
00:21:395 (2,1,2) - , 00:23:482 (1,1,2) - , 00:27:134 (1,1) - , 00:27:917 (1,1,1,1,1) - Ich weiß, dass du es nicht anders willst, aber die Streams sind kaum lesbar. Wirkt beinahe wie Kick Sliders (Beispiel: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28121) , die heute kaum noch in einer CtB Map rankbar sind oder gar verwendet werden (sehr starker Old School - style). Eine Bemerkung von meiner Seite: Weniger Noten sind manchmal mehr.
00:45:982 (1) - Sample Set: Drum? Ist aber deine Entscheidung, ich finde nur, dass es sehr cool mit dem Donnern zusammenpasst.
00:51:917 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Zu lange Combo, zu viele Früchte auf deiner Plate. Ich empfehle dir, hier noch etwas zu reduzieren. Habe ich ja bereits im IRC angemerkt.
00:58:438 (1) - Du hast hier einen HDash, was auch gut mit dem Rhythmus passt. Genauso würde ich aber auch hier einen setzen: 01:02:482 (3) - , da der Drum nochmal wiederholt wird. So ein kurzer Slider ist jedenfalls langweilig. Solltest du dich hierfür entscheiden, nutze aber die HDashes nicht aus und vermindere die Distanz zwischen 01:02:090 (1,2) - zum Beispiel.
01:45:656 (3,4,1,2) - Die Stelle ist so gut wie unmöglich zu fc'n nach dem Stream bei 01:43:699 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - . Ich empfehle dir wirklich, die Distanz hier zu vermindern und auszuprobieren, wann die Stelle FC'able ist. Eine Möglichkeit ist auch, den Abstand von (3) und (4) kleiner als den Abstand von (1) und (2) zu machen. Dadurch bekommt die Ryuuta mehr "Anschwung", um (3) und (4) ordentlich zu fangen.
02:23:873 (4,1) - Unerwarteter HDash, der auch keinen wirklichen Sinn mit dem Rhythmus macht, kannst du das etwas reduzieren, indem du (1) etwas weiter nach rechts setzt? Dash ist ok, aber bitte kein HDash.
Ich kann hier ehrlich gesagt nicht viel mehr modden. Versuch auf jeden Fall, mehr Modder zu finden, die vor allem mit Overdoses vertraut sind. Ich konzentriere mich persönlich eher auf alles bis zu Rain, weil ich kein Fan von Overdoses bin.

Viel Glück!

bomber34

1,529 posts

Joined February 2011

bomber34 2013-08-18T11:23:46+00:00

Sey wrote:
bomber's CTB Overdose
Man merkt, dass die Map bereits älter ist, jedoch hat sich an CTB Maps so einiges verändert. An einigen Stellen SOLLTE und MÜSSTE deine Map definitiv einen besseren Flow haben und ästhetischer aussehen. Einige Passagen sind einfach nicht schön zu spielen und man kann sie stark verbessern (Nein, das ist kein negatives Feedback, sondern ein freundlich gemeinter Hinweis.). Ich will darauf genauer in meinem Mod eingehen. Blau markierter Text bedeutet, dass ich dir dringend empfehle, es zu ändern. Roter Text bedeutet unrankable.
00:05:221 (1) - Würde ich etwas weiter nach rechts setzen, damit es mittig zwischen 00:05:090 (1) - und 00:05:351 (2) - liegt. 2 Grids nach rechts funktioniert und macht die Stelle ein bisschen flüssiger zu spielen. k
00:14:482 (2) - Könnte weiter nach links, aus dem selben Grund wie im Punkt oben. ^
00:20:221 (2,1) - CTRL + G für beide Slider ist hier schöner, es macht sogar die Section noch etwas schwieriger mit den Jumps, die man hier bewältigen muss. Probier es einfach mal aus. schöner ja][/color,] auf 00:20:221 (2) - würde ich ein strg+g setzen können, ich mach es erstmal so. Vllt überleg ich es mir aber anders
00:21:134 (1,1,2,1,2) - Einfach nicht besonders schön zu spielen. Da wir noch ziemlich am Anfang der Map sind, kann diese Stelle ruhig auch etwas einfacher sein, insbesondere weil hier nach viele weitere Streams folgen. Aber ich empfehle dir wirklich, diesen Stream zu verbessern. Dass manche Streams kaum spielbar sind, liegt daran, dass sie komplett waagerecht sind. Mach sie etwas diagonaler und die Sektionen sind angenehmer, aber dennoch schwierig genug für eine Overdose. (Antworte ich mal in Grau, weil du farbig schreibst: Zu dem Argument: Ist noch am Anfang: Dem widerspreche ich, weil das Lied einfach nicht ruhig ist. Die KIAI hat schon seinen Zweck da.
Zu den Streams selber: Kann ich gerne leichter machen. 45° sollten jetzt definitiv leichter sein
00:21:395 (2,1,2) - , 00:23:482 (1,1,2) - , 00:27:134 (1,1) - , 00:27:917 (1,1,1,1,1) - Ich weiß, dass du es nicht anders willst, aber die Streams sind kaum lesbar. Wirkt beinahe wie Kick Sliders (Beispiel: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28121) , die heute kaum noch in einer CtB Map rankbar sind oder gar verwendet werden (sehr starker Old School - style). 1. 45° 2. 45° 3. minimal 15° 4. etwas gestauchter, ° mäßig leichter und der letzte repeater wurde um 1 zurück
Eine Bemerkung von meiner Seite: Weniger Noten sind manchmal mehr. Nur wenn diese nicht auf etwas liegen. Ich bin der Meinung, dass es zum Lied passt.
00:45:982 (1) - Sample Set: Drum? Ist aber deine Entscheidung, ich finde nur, dass es sehr cool mit dem Donnern zusammenpasst. sicher das du Drum und nicht Normal meinst? Bei Drum geht das "Donnern" richtig unter ._____. Bei Normal passt es eher. Ich nehme mal lieber das Normalset
00:51:917 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Zu lange Combo, zu viele Früchte auf deiner Plate. Ich empfehle dir, hier noch etwas zu reduzieren. Habe ich ja bereits im IRC angemerkt. 00:53:221 (5) - hat jetzt NC
00:58:438 (1) - Du hast hier einen HDash, was auch gut mit dem Rhythmus passt. Genauso würde ich aber auch hier einen setzen: 01:02:482 (3) - , da der Drum nochmal wiederholt wird. So ein kurzer Slider ist jedenfalls langweilig. Solltest du dich hierfür entscheiden, nutze aber die HDashes nicht aus und vermindere die Distanz zwischen 01:02:090 (1,2) - zum Beispiel. Naja du hast zwar recht aber zu dem 2. Punkt, ich solle dann HDash nicht ausnutzen: Meinst du nicht das wäre etwas inkonsequent, wenn ich eigentlich auf allen Claps in dieser Passage einen HDash habe (welche mMn gut passen) und dort dann nicht? Ich glaube, so wie ich es jetzt im Moment gesetzt habe sollte es noch gehen. Wenn nicht wird es dann ein anderer Modder wohl herausstellen
01:45:656 (3,4,1,2) - Die Stelle ist so gut wie unmöglich zu fc'n nach dem Stream bei 01:43:699 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - . Ich empfehle dir wirklich, die Distanz hier zu vermindern und auszuprobieren, wann die Stelle FC'able ist. Eine Möglichkeit ist auch, den Abstand von (3) und (4) kleiner als den Abstand von (1) und (2) zu machen. Dadurch bekommt die Ryuuta mehr "Anschwung", um (3) und (4) ordentlich zu fangen. Hab jetzt was an den Entfernungen geändert
02:23:873 (4,1) - Unerwarteter HDash, der auch keinen wirklichen Sinn mit dem Rhythmus macht, kannst du das etwas reduzieren, indem du (1) etwas weiter nach rechts setzt? Dash ist ok, aber bitte kein HDash. hab (4) etwas mehr nach links gesetzt damit es so einen nachlassenden Effekt auf die Musik hat ~~was laber ich da? lol~~. Ich will (1) nicht nach rechts setzen, weil das sonst unnötiges remapping erfordert für etwas was anders lösbar ist.
Ich kann hier ehrlich gesagt nicht viel mehr modden. Versuch auf jeden Fall, mehr Modder zu finden, die vor allem mit Overdoses vertraut sind. Ich konzentriere mich persönlich eher auf alles bis zu Rain, weil ich kein Fan von Overdoses bin. Tja mal sehen :3
Viel Glück!

Danke

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ZHSteven

osu! Alumni

1,012 posts

Joined July 2009

ZHSteven 2013-08-29T15:14:39+00:00

CTB modding as promised.

Actually this map is not hard enough to consider as a "Overdose". You do not have a lot of missing point, and the relaxing part is too long.
Also, watch out your hitsound. I am not good at it but still think there is some part sounds weird.

I see you want to keep the flow in the whole map, and you really done it properly. the whole map shows a very good feeling with the music. great.
But Please you want to make an Overdose, in this hand, your jump in this map is weak. there is some part is good to put jumps but you give up =.=

I will mod it in "Rain" way.

["Rain"]

00:05:351 (2) - consider overlap with the previous (1)
00:19:569 (1,1,1,2,1) - try to put some small jumps here.
suggestion. maybe the spacing needs to be further adjust, but just this feeling
00:21:395 (3,1,2) - could this be better?
00:27:134 (1) - make this slider smaller spacing in between, or even vertical it. this is short reverse slider after a hyperdash.
00:27:917 (1,1,1,1,1) - make some awesome movement here.
hint: if you want to make it overdose, try this pattern here.
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just a hint to make overdose.~~better to~~free to ignore this O_O
00:35:482 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - try to make this pattern move(can introduce Hdashes).
try this
00:44:873 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - unexpected big jump. consider lower the first few. or you can change 00:44:351 (1) - this direction and more it more towards right. also good to flow.
01:04:699 (1) - not good... why not make a jump here?
01:08:873 (1,2,3,4) - not good in a rain or in overdose. try square pattern?
slider square pattern
the idea of the pattern is based on reverse jump. you can further adjust the spacing in between(no need to have a vertical or horizontal slider), just make sure there is a jump between each of the sliders. and spacing of 13 and 24 better be equal.
01:12:656 - 01:12:917 - add note if you dont want to make it jump.
01:13:830 (4,5) - make movement here
01:14:090 (5,6) - lower this jump, do not make Hdashes.
01:14:612 (7,8) - ^
01:17:221 (1,2) - make it vertical slider to create Hdashes.
01:21:258 - add note
01:22:177 (3) - move it more towards left to get better flow.
01:52:308 (1) - overlap with 01:51:917 (4) - , to create a jump.
01:54:004 (6) - not sure but I think overlap with 01:54:134 (1) - could be better.
02:17:743 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - please create awesome movement~~~
02:26:090 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - also here, create movement better than just stand left and right-,-

if it is a rain, nothing much I need to point out... but if you want to make it harder, please try to make it more jump.

And also, find someone double check with your hitsound. .

That's all. Great map~

Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2013-09-07T15:45:01+00:00

Too easy for an Overdose?
I actually don't agree with you. It has some very challenging patterns that don't fit to a Rain anymore. Please keep it as an Overdose. If people want I can link a few Rains here which are MUCH easier than this one. This difficulty is not a typical Rain!

Actually this difficulty has flow but still can be improved a lot. However, maybe a CtB BAT with more experience has ideas to make this difficulty better.

bomber34

1,529 posts

Joined February 2011

bomber34 2013-09-07T18:36:24+00:00

ZHSteven wrote:
CTB modding as promised.

Actually this map is not hard enough to consider as a "Overdose". You do not have a lot of missing point, and the relaxing part is too long.
Also, watch out your hitsound. I am not good at it but still think there is some part sounds weird. okay I will let someone checke the hitsounds somdaywhen I find time ...

I see you want to keep the flow in the whole map, and you really done it properly. the whole map shows a very good feeling with the music. great.
But Please you want to make an Overdose, in this hand, your jump in this map is weak. there is some part is good to put jumps but you give up =.= xD you are the first one ever who says this map is to easy for an overdose lol.
I first named it Rain but everybody told me to rename it to overdose because "WAY TO HARD FOR A RAIN DUDE" ... I mean okay I made A LOT of patterns easier (especially the Full Plate Walks) but even then nobody else said I should rename ^^
let's see what other people think, because imo it doesn't matter for me how this diff is named. The naming of ctb diffs is still to inconsistant regarding their supposed to be difficulty and their actually difficulty.

I will mod it in "Rain" way.

["Rain"]
00:05:351 (2) - consider overlap with the previous (1) wow that actually has a very nice flow ^^. I only overlapped it a tiny bit though, so that it feels more like slowing down instead of just standing under 1 to catch 2
00:19:569 (1,1,1,2,1) - try to put some small jumps here. yeah the feeling is better. Imo the jump is catchable ... at least how I made it now ... so yeah fix'd
suggestion. maybe the spacing needs to be further adjust, but just this feeling
00:21:395 (3,1,2) - could this be better? Hard to say for me. All Full plate walks had to get more and more easier to catch because the modders where not that fine with them. I personally noticed nothing "uncatchable" about you suggestion so I would like to change it that way ... but then almost every other person will get mad again lol.
I change it for now. Made BOOKMARK on this place and if people complain again I will have no problem to change it yet again.
00:27:134 (1) - make this slider smaller spacing in between, or even vertical it. this is short reverse slider after a hyperdash. okay I made it almost vertically but they are no vertical line
00:27:917 (1,1,1,1,1) - make some awesome movement here. wow ... really hard to say if I should take it. I sleep over it
hint: if you want to make it overdose, try this pattern here.
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just a hint to make overdose.~~better to~~free to ignore this O_O
00:35:482 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - try to make this pattern move(can introduce Hdashes). I like that. I use the "current" pattern a second time at the end so I have no problems changing this and your picture but it has no HDashes ... I don't feel there is one which screams to have a HDash
try this
00:44:873 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - unexpected big jump. consider lower the first few. or you can change 00:44:351 (1) - this direction and more it more towards right. also good to flow. you are right especially the first (2,1) is completly awkward tbh ... I changed it but it still needs more improvement. As for your 2nd thing for the slider ... I don't see neither a improvement nor a "inworsement" ... probaly not enough to the right lol
01:04:699 (1) - not good... why not make a jump here? because (2) has this clap sound and if you look over this sections all notes towards that clap sound are really close to it and the jump goes away from the clap and not towards it.
01:08:873 (1,2,3,4) - not good in a rain or in overdose. try square pattern? The flow of that Square Pattern is actually really good but the map becomes easier lol ^^ but because you say this is already too easy for an Overdose ... on the other hand it is technicly harder based on the DS ... I take it because of the flow
slider square pattern
the idea of the pattern is based on reverse jump. you can further adjust the spacing in between(no need to have a vertical or horizontal slider), just make sure there is a jump between each of the sliders. and spacing of 13 and 24 better be equal.based on the music the distance to each Sliderstart should get lower because the music gets a bit more quiet for each 2/1
01:12:656 - 01:12:917 - add note if you dont want to make it jump. I really don't understand what you want from me ...however I made a decrasing movement with 01:12:264 (6,7,8) - because the music feels more like that (for me at least)
01:13:830 (4,5) - make movement here I thought long about this and why no movement between (2,3) ... for me there is not a real difference if there is movement there and especially with the next point ... I still want a HDash from (5) and all because v
01:14:090 (5,6) - lower this jump, do not make Hdashes. for me it just feels very good with a HDash. i know the reasoning why there also could be a no Hdash jump but over all 01:13:047 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sounds pretty much identical apart from getting a tick quieter. My only compromise would be that the distance between (1,2 | 3,4 | 5,6 | 7,8) gets lower but still with a Hdash ... just easier but I guess the 1/1 distance is already at a minimum for Hdash lol. But distances very close to HDash are neither fun nor good to catch imo ... so no
01:14:612 (7,8) - ^
01:17:221 (1,2) - make it vertical slider to create Hdashes. okay
01:21:258 - add note where? There is no 01:21:258 ....
01:22:177 (3) - move it more towards left to get better flow. k
01:52:308 (1) - overlap with 01:51:917 (4) - , to create a jump. huh? If I overlap ith with (4) (which it already does) the jump to the previous note gets easier lol ... if you mean the slider afterwards why not simply say : (1) ctrl + g? or if you want me to stack with (4) ... stack repeater with (4) ... not sure what you want from me right now anyway ctrl+g on (1) to increase the jump to (2) afterwards which fits to the music imo
01:54:004 (6) - not sure but I think overlap with 01:54:134 (1) - could be better. could be better but that overlap makes it better than now so I take it
02:17:743 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - please create awesome movement~~~ the question is what is an awesome movement?
I actually went away from the Full plate walk now and tried to make more "fullplate Hyperdashes" ... the repeat sliders are almost vertical
02:26:090 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - also here, create movement better than just stand left and right-,- but isn't that movement already? you cannot stand under that pattern you have to move left and right which gets harder every 4 notes. I actually like this pattern very much even though it might be not that popular but unless I see alternatives I guess I am stubborn <w< sry

if it is a rain, nothing much I need to point out... but if you want to make it harder, please try to make it more jump.

And also, find someone double check with your hitsound. .

That's all. Great map~

okay I try to fix these soon >w<
I am so busy lately <w<

Sey wrote:
Too easy for an Overdose?
I actually don't agree with you. It has some very challenging patterns that don't fit to a Rain anymore. Please keep it as an Overdose. If people want I can link a few Rains here which are MUCH easier than this one. This difficulty is not a typical Rain!

Actually this difficulty has flow but still can be improved a lot. However, maybe a CtB BAT with more experience has ideas to make this difficulty better.

the only CtB BAT which has not yet looked over this map at all is eldnl (Drafura modded it last year ... lol)
just let me fix this mod first ... which may take some time ;w;

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224,336,139308,1,8,0:0:0:0:
88,336,139438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,336,139569,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,336,139699,1,8,0:0:0:0:
456,336,139830,5,4,0:0:0:0:
216,336,139960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,272,140090,2,0,B|120:176,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,176,140351,2,0,B|264:72,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,104,140612,2,0,B|408:8,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,48,140873,6,0,B|352:48,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,88,141134,2,0,B|400:88,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,240,141395,2,0,B|232:240,2,95,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,344,141786,5,0,0:0:0:0:
456,344,141851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
504,344,141917,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,256,142047,2,0,B|408:160,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,184,142308,2,0,B|312:80,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,88,142569,2,0,B|184:192,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,142830,2,0,B|48:304,1,95,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,312,143090,6,0,B|280:312,1,95
416,312,143351,2,0,B|512:312,1,95
368,312,143612,2,0,B|272:312,1,95
200,312,143873,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,312,144004,6,2,B|64:208,1,95
184,216,144264,2,2,B|184:320,1,95
312,312,144525,2,2,B|312:216,1,95
448,216,144786,2,2,B|448:312,1,95
304,312,145047,6,2,B|304:217,1,95
160,320,145308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
88,320,145373,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,320,145438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,256,145569,2,0,B|232:256,1,95
88,256,145830,1,2,0:0:0:0:
40,256,145960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,264,146090,5,2,0:0:0:0:
224,264,146221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,264,146351,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,264,146482,1,2,0:0:0:0:
304,264,146612,5,2,0:0:0:0:
208,264,146743,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,264,146873,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,264,147004,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,264,147134,5,2,0:0:0:0:
192,264,147264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,264,147395,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,264,147525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,264,147656,5,2,0:0:0:0:
464,152,147786,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147917,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,152,148047,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,232,148177,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148438,12,0,150264,0:0:0:0:

Seph

Seph 2013-10-15T16:23:21+00:00

Oh hey i like the song, expect a ctb mod soon

bomber34

1,529 posts

Joined February 2011

bomber34 2013-10-16T16:45:01+00:00

Seph wrote:
Oh hey i like the song, expect a ctb mod soon

oh cool
be honest :>
I got so many different opinions about the ctb so another one would be cool :3

clmnt

599 posts

Joined July 2012

clmnt 2013-10-18T13:38:18+00:00

liked the ctb map, the streams were nicely curved :3 i don't see that too often.

SkyDevil

1,771 posts

Joined October 2010

SkyDevil 2015-01-11T18:54:43+00:00

oh hey this got ungraved wow

Tshemmp

1,405 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Tshemmp 2015-01-11T19:38:49+00:00

Ha, I just decided to update the AR of the Extra diff to 9,6 since decimal values are now possible and I figured it would fit better then AR 9. Nothing more sadly.

MBomb

MBomb 2015-01-25T18:44:21+00:00

Sorry, I can only mod ctb ;;

bomber's CtB Overdose

00:04:177 (1,1) - I think this sounds more like a 1/1 slider.
00:06:638 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here and the next 2 1/2s.
00:07:566 - Place a circle at 1/1 here.
00:10:177 (1,2,1) - Possibly turn this into a 1/2 slider repeating once.
00:11:221 (1,1,1) - ^
00:13:308 (1,2) - Turn both of these into 1/2 sliders.
00:15:022 - Place a circle at the 1/2 here.
00:15:134 (1) - Make this repeat once more.
00:26:351 (1,2) - Make this into a 1/2 slider.
00:26:873 (3,1) - ^
00:29:221 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
00:34:958 - Put a circle on the 1/1 here.
00:36:004 (5) - NC.
00:37:569 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I would make all of these into 1/2 sliders repeating once, with the last one repeating twice.
00:44:194 - Place a circle at the 1/2 here.
00:45:656 (3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I'd end this stream at the 1/1 (at 00:45:896 - ) and then start the slider at the 1/2.
00:51:134 (3) - NC.
00:51:917 (1) - Possibly repeat once more?
00:56:750 - Place a circle at 1/2 here.
00:57:002 - ^
01:03:395 (4) - NC.
01:03:917 (5) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
01:06:004 (5) - NC.
01:07:830 (1,2) - Make this a 1/1 slider.
01:10:830 (5) - Remove this note.
01:10:960 (6) - I'd make this the NC instead of 01:11:221 (1) - .
01:11:743 (3) - NC.
01:12:264 (6,7,8) - I'd make this a 1/1 slider repeating once.
01:14:090 (5) - NC.
01:20:090 (3,4,5) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
01:25:569 (1) - From here until 01:28:960 (2) - , make every 5th note in the combo an NC.
01:30:264 (4) - NC.
01:31:699 (8) - I'd delete this note.
01:32:873 (5) - NC.
01:34:438 (4,5) - I'd make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
01:34:960 (6) - NC.
01:35:222 - Place circle on the 1/1 here.
01:35:469 - ^
01:37:047 (6) - NC.
01:37:047 (6) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once.
01:42:786 (7) - Make this the NC instead of 01:42:917 (1) - .
01:43:830 (5) - NC.
01:46:177 (3) - ^
01:46:960 (1,2) - Make these both 1/2 sliders.
01:47:482 (3) - NC.
01:48:004 (7) - ^
01:48:525 (1) - Make into a 1/2 slider.
01:50:090 (5) - NC.
01:54:284 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here.
01:55:830 (4,5) - Make this a 1/2 slider to fit the pattern.
01:56:482 (3) - NC.
01:57:004 (6) - Remove this note.
02:04:177 (7) - NC.
02:04:692 - Place a circle on the 1/1.
02:05:089 - Place a circle on the 1/2.
02:05:221 (3) - NC.
02:05:743 (1,2) - Change to a 1/2 slider.
02:06:003 (3,4) - ^
02:06:264 (5) - NC.
02:06:806 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here and NC.
02:07:180 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here.
02:08:090 (5) - NC.
02:08:481 - Add a circle at the 1/2 here.
02:08:743 (2) - Make into a 1/2 slider.
02:09:134 (4) - ^
02:09:656 (1,2,3) - Make these all into 1/2 sliders.
02:10:438 (4) - NC.
02:10:830 (10) - NC.
02:11:221 (16) - Make this the NC instead of 02:11:351 (1) - .
02:14:612 (4) - NC.
02:15:395 (10) - ^
02:18:982 (4,5,6) - Make into a 1/4 slider repeating once.
02:20:090 (3) - NC.
02:21:851 (2) - Remove this note.
02:25:373 (3) - ^
02:28:438 (1) - I'd start this at the 1/2 before.

Ok, good luck on rank!

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