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Taka-kun
4 posts
Joined July 2009
Topic Starter
Taka-kun
Hi :D I was wondering if you guys could show how you stream so fast. I've been playing for quite a bit, and I've noticed my lack of stream speed. Maybe you guys could post a song or two? >.<

This program on the forums to calculate stream speed tells me (after 5 trials of 100) that I average 12.97 Hits/sec and around ~190 BPM. Thaaanks~
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
I don't know.
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe
Know, I do not.
Nyu_old2
Nyu_old2
The forum one is inaccurate and does not tell you if you are streaming consistently. Yeah, it may tell some people they can stream at 230 bpm but chances are if they go into a 230bpm stream on a song they could be hitting all 50's and 100's with misses in there.

As for streaming better? Practice. There's no secret, just keep playing and you'll eventually get it. Mech keyboards do help though.
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
t/77456
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN

Nyu wrote:

The forum one is inaccurate and does not tell you if you are streaming consistently. Yeah, it may tell some people they can stream at 230 bpm but chances are if they go into a 230bpm stream on a song they could be hitting all 50's and 100's with misses in there.

As for streaming better? Practice. There's no secret, just keep playing and you'll eventually get it. Mech keyboards do help though.
Pretty much this.

Only good advice on streaming is to literally practice because like Nyu said most people will say they stream this fast because of this reason, but they really can't stream that fast and just want to show off. I consider myself an above average streamer and the only reason I got this fast isn't because of some random gimmick someone told me to do, but because I gave myself a goal and practiced streaming until I could hit that goal.

Just keep at it and you will get there eventually.

darkmiz wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/77456
I'm sorry to be a douche, but posting terrible gimmicks like these is a waste of time. There isn't any trick to streaming besides just practicing.
Ekaru
3,617 posts
Joined July 2008
Ekaru
As said, practice. Find yourself something that you currently can't stream but feel you could stream with some practice and get to it. Eventually you'll be like, "Some people have trouble with 200 BPM streams? Strange," and, "Oh, a really long 140 BPM stream? Is this supposed to be challenging?"

Now, combining jumps with streams at high BPMs is where it gets tricky...
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
Streaming is annoying. Last week I practiced stream compilations and checked my speed on that program every run, and improved from 175 to 210 over 4 runs. This week I can't stream over 175 again.
It's like you have to warm yourself up every time until your fingers know how to move on their own

Also Ekaru 140bpm stream is very challenging :(
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
It's not.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Wishy22 wrote:

It's not.
for you
Sonez_old
Sonez_old

Aqo wrote:

Also Ekaru 140bpm stream is very challenging :(
this, would rather stream 180+ any day than try that slow poop
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy

Liutprando wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

It's not.
for you
If you're slow then it shouldn't be much trouble, then again if you're really fast you can single tap them. Of course it's not EASY for everyone, but it's not as challenging as other BPMs.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Wishy22 wrote:

If you're slow then it shouldn't be much trouble, then again if you're really fast you can single tap them. Of course it's not EASY for everyone, but it's not as challenging as other BPMs.
It was just an example , some person find 180 bpm streams very slow while other (like me) find it challenging lol
The same it's for higher bpm
Tom69_old
Tom69_old

JAKACHAN wrote:

darkmiz wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/77456
I'm sorry to be a douche, but posting terrible gimmicks like these is a waste of time. There isn't any trick to streaming besides just practicing.

I can't tell just HOW often doubletapping saved (or even made possible) FCs for me.
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
even on 200+ BPM streams i am more accurate streaming normal than double tapping
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
Below 190bpm streamer passing through.
Mismagius
9,266 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
I tried this practicing thing for 4 years and I still can't z/x over 200bpm :(
Low
2,006 posts
Joined July 2011
Low
:?:

Blue Dragon wrote:

I tried this practicing thing for 4 years and I still can't z/x over 200bpm :(
Story of my life.
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
i cant even z/x 200, let alone higher
Frizz
4,131 posts
Joined April 2011
Frizz
I can't stream ;-;
F m L_old
405 posts
Joined March 2011
F m L_old

Frizz925 wrote:

I can't stream ;-;
I can't stream either :(
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN
ITT: couldn't stream a song legitly so used some cheap and terrible tactic that gives terrible accuracy instead of actually trying to improve.

And by terrible tactic I mean double tapping i lose a ton of respect for people who give up and resort to such means.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

JAKACHAN wrote:

ITT: couldn't stream a song legitly so used some cheap and terrible tactic that gives terrible accuracy instead of actually trying to improve.

And by terrible tactic I mean double tapping i lose a ton of respect for people who give up and resort to such means.
It's not a terrible tactic if it's the only way you have to pass a map ...
Ekaru
3,617 posts
Joined July 2008
Ekaru

Aqo wrote:

Also Ekaru 140bpm stream is very challenging :(
That's simply because you need to practice 140 BPM streams more to get "in sync"; as I said, *eventually* you'll be thinking long 140 BPM streams aren't that hard. You just need to practice on songs where the streams are extremely obvious in the music, and then just tap z/x to the music. Ex. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/42494 That song's girly, but it demonstrates my point nicely. Look for songs like that one and just practice.

Same with both slower and faster streams; you want to practice on songs where the streams are very obvious in the music so you can just tap z/x in time with the music. If you can't hear the streams very well on a given song, go find a song where you can because your practice will be pretty futile otherwise. It'll be tough at first, but it'll be worth it because it'll significantly increase the amount of maps you can enjoy without going "AAAAAAAH THESE %#&^ING STREAMS".
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
I can do 140bpm streams by streaming, but its not comfortable, I'd much rather singletap them.
bagiaaa
498 posts
Joined September 2010
bagiaaa

JAKACHAN wrote:

darkmiz wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/77456
I'm sorry to be a douche, but posting terrible gimmicks like these is a waste of time. There isn't any trick to streaming besides just practicing.
so true that my heart aches
Ekaru
3,617 posts
Joined July 2008
Ekaru

boat wrote:

I can do 140bpm streams by streaming, but its not comfortable, I'd much rather singletap them.
Eh, I find that tiring. <120 BPM is when I prefer to single tap for not-long streams.
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
Well I play taiko, tapping 250bpm 1/2s all day.

Whats tiering is retardedly long slow streams. Fast streams don't make me tired, but I tend to bust my hand and wrist when playing retarded maps over prolonged periods.
Tom69_old
Tom69_old

JAKACHAN wrote:

ITT: couldn't stream a song legitly so used some cheap and terrible tactic that gives terrible accuracy instead of actually trying to improve.

And by terrible tactic I mean double tapping i lose a ton of respect for people who give up and resort to such means.

"ITT: couldn't stream a song legitly so used some cheap and terrible tactic that gives even better accuracy instead of actually trying to improve.

And by terrible tactic I mean using a keyboard in addition to your mouse / tablet. i lose a ton of respect for people who give up and resort to such means."


Do you see just how much sense you are making? Also: If you get a lower accuracy by doing it, isn't it already a penalty?
WTF? How is a legit playstyle a terrible tactic? I am the one losing respect to people who blame others for playing the game in a smart way.
Ohh, and for the 1000th time. If done correctly doubletapping actually is HARD, and it doesn't necessarily yield 100s. I'd like to see one single hater who is actually able to properly pull it off.
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

Ekaru wrote:

Ex. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/42494 That song's girly, but it demonstrates my point nicely. Look for songs like that one and just practice.
that map only has 3s, i dont concider 3s to be real streams, otherwise i could stream 240 BPM.(oh i wish i actually could)
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers
Stacks of 3, 5 and 7 and even 9 can be done to perfection without you being able to stream imo
Ekaru
3,617 posts
Joined July 2008
Ekaru

silmarilen wrote:

that map only has 3s, i dont concider 3s to be real streams, otherwise i could stream 240 BPM.(oh i wish i actually could)
The goal is just to get a feel for the speed and to show the kinds of songs to look for - ones where you can easily sync your taps with the music. If I was thinking of length then I'd be an asshole and link this:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/2583

Actually, if you upped the AR and OD to 8 via the Editor then it's probably pretty decent training. That map has aged pretty well compared to most maps from its time.
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN

Tom94 wrote:

"ITT: couldn't stream a song legitly so used some cheap and terrible tactic that gives even better accuracy instead of actually trying to improve.

And by terrible tactic I mean using a keyboard in addition to your mouse / tablet. i lose a ton of respect for people who give up and resort to such means."


Do you see just how much sense you are making? Also: If you get a lower accuracy by doing it, isn't it already a penalty?
WTF? How is a legit playstyle a terrible tactic? I am the one losing respect to people who blame others for playing the game in a smart way.
Ohh, and for the 1000th time. If done correctly doubletapping actually is HARD, and it doesn't necessarily yield 100s. I'd like to see one single hater who is actually able to properly pull it off.
10/10 for not understanding a single word I said lol... I clearly said that using a keyboard is a terrible tactic!

How is double tapping even trying to follow the rhythm of a song? It isn't it's a cheap way to slip past streams and not even have to worry about the rhythm of a song.

Playing a rhythm game by not following the rhythm is totally smart.

Ridiculous...
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
you have to follow the rythm of a song to be able to double tap, you still have to tap in the same BPM as when there is a single tap pattern.
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN
I give up trying to argue it because clearly some people are just too reliant on it.

I still stand on my advice for the OP to just practice and don't try to use some "Special Technique" to improve your streaming.
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa

F m L wrote:

Frizz925 wrote:

I can't stream ;-;
I can't stream either :(
me neither
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

thelewa wrote:

me neither
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871
fuck you


sincerely
silmarilen
Ekaru
3,617 posts
Joined July 2008
Ekaru

silmarilen wrote:

thelewa wrote:

me neither
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871
fuck you


sincerely
silmarilen
I concur with silmarilen's sentiment.

sincerely
Ekaru
BeatofIke
4,172 posts
Joined September 2011
BeatofIke
I can stream, but not accurately. Also, my finger stamina sucks. :(
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe
I can... sort of... stream... kinda...
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers
Serea can stream. Can't think of anyone else.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
goooooooold streaaaaaams what can i doooooooooo
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
random other off topic thing, but is it just me or is playing consistent triplet streams harder than actually streaming wtf

also i just randomly seem to get better at streaming. One I just suddenly feel like I can stream faster and with more accuracy. it's kinda weird. tho i guess i do do a lot of doubletiming/play fast songs.
Gon
455 posts
Joined November 2010
Gon

kriers wrote:

Serea can stream. Can't think of anyone else.
mugio3 (G59 SS etc.)
JAKACHAN
684 posts
Joined March 2011
JAKACHAN

winber1 wrote:

random other off topic thing, but is it just me or is playing consistent triplet streams harder than actually streaming wtf

also i just randomly seem to get better at streaming. One I just suddenly feel like I can stream faster and with more accuracy. it's kinda weird. tho i guess i do do a lot of doubletiming/play fast songs.
Streams are more consistent when constant triplets are a little more to register therefore it ends up being harder to stream consistent triples than a stream of the same magnitude. Also, some people usually start every stream with the same finger they single tap with (I do this) so you end up putting more strain on that 1 finger to start each triple right after ending the previous one with it, but this only applies to those that play in that certain way.

The bottom is more of just a conditioning effect :P Not every time you improve it's going to come over time. Pretty much every time I have improved at streams it has been some randomly large improvement (Like 140 max to 180 and then 180 to 200 and so on) it just depends on the person. Some people will improve slowly over time and then others won't improve for a while and then all of a sudden they get a big jump in speed or endurance.

Once again it all depends on the player.
Tom69_old
Tom69_old
For finally contributing something to the topic here are some awesome practice maps for long streams:

Various Artists - Stream Practice Maps
Unlucky Morpheus - BPM210 Shanghai Alice @ Extra Stage
ISHTAR - AgraiA @ Extra
Various Artists - osu! ~ Deathstream Compilation
Various Artists - 1412 training map (this one is really crazy)
gyorin
45 posts
Joined March 2012
gyorin
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jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412

Tom94 wrote:

For finally contributing something to the topic here are some awesome practice maps for long streams:

Various Artists - Stream Practice Maps
Unlucky Morpheus - BPM210 Shanghai Alice @ Extra Stage
ISHTAR - AgraiA @ Extra
Various Artists - osu! ~ Deathstream Compilation
Various Artists - 1412 training map (this one is really crazy)
my training map can't be downloaded due to file size, here is a working link: http://puu.sh/EPJx terrible copy paste jobs but I don't care.

Also I'd say I can stream relatively well, on a really good day I can keep 300bpm for 20-40 notes and keep 220 for 300 or so. My suggestions:

Relax - this is the most important thing for long stream at 220 bpm or less.
Raise your ring and pinky fingers - fairly certain this is common knowledge.
Try to keep your wrist at the same height as your fingers - this helps with long streams
Completely ignore steps 2 and 3 if you are trying to do over 270 bpm

Not quite remilia-scarlet but I'd say I'm pretty damn fast still.

oh bonus tip for weird people like me: pull your shoulder out it's socket when you stream.. It hurts so much AFTER streams for me and I can't help it.
djjsixpack
162 posts
Joined September 2011
djjsixpack

Knickerus wrote:

kriers wrote:

Stacks of 3, 5 and 7 and even 9 can be done to perfection without you being able to stream imo
I thought I could stream 230 when I was doing 5 and 7 stacks comfortably.

Ha.
Heh heh, same. If that were the case I could stream 250 bpm no problem.

Alas, my top is probably 140 on long streams (200-300+)
F m L_old
405 posts
Joined March 2011
F m L_old

kriers wrote:

Serea can stream. Can't think of anyone else.
Niko-
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