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Westonini
Hmm, ok. So it was a one-way thing meaning abraker was the only lover?
cravenfiner
maybe lover role doesnt have to have another to exist, its just a random chance for someone else to get it
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

Hmm, ok. So it was a one-way thing meaning abraker was the only lover?

cravenfiner wrote:

maybe lover role doesnt have to have another to exist, its just a random chance for someone else to get it
yes and yes
Westonini

Penguin wrote:

I think I'm wrong about the cross party lovers, but still, GIF's role would have said that he was a lover.


Yeah, "However, sometimes, one lover is otherwise a vanilla townie, while the other is a mafia goon."

And I do agree that GIF's role most likely would have said lover. But it would seem odd for there to be only one lover in a game. Maybe that's just because of my lack of experience though.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

Penguin wrote:

I think I'm wrong about the cross party lovers, but still, GIF's role would have said that he was a lover.
Yeah, "However, sometimes, one lover is otherwise a vanilla townie, while the other is a mafia goon."

And I do agree that GIF's role most likely would have said lover. But it would seem odd for there to be only one lover in a game. Maybe that's just because of my lack of experience though.
If you look at the list, there are only 7 Lover roles, so having two of them is highly unlikely when there are 146 roles.
Westonini
It's just that most sources I'm seeing seem to mention it being a two-way thing, with them being a connected pair.
Westonini
But I guess the only way it would make sense here is if there was only one lover.
Penguin

Penguin wrote:

"If there are other Lovers in the game, you will form a Lover bond with them. All Lovers will die at the same time."

Keyword is "IF"
I don't know how else to explain it. It's only a two-way thing if there are two lovers.
Westonini
Yeah, I guess we'll just go with that since it makes the most sense here.

So GIF's Psychomagnet ability allows him to direct all actions at a single person. But seeing as he died, he probably didn't use the ability and just regularly killed abraker, then the mafia killed GIF.
cravenfiner
makes sense
Westonini
So if it was originally 5vs1vs2, it's now 4vs2. Or at least that's what seems most likely. But I suppose it's also still possible for there to be another neutral or mafia.
Topic Starter
Sakura
If only a single Lover exists, they are essentially a "Named Towie" work as a VT with a different role name. This only happens in idea games where it's possible less than 2 ppl pick or get lovers as a role. Additionally Lovers works as the Mason version for Werewolves, Lovers cannot be Werewolves

Vote Count 2.1
Not Voting (6) - Penguin, Husa, cravenfiner, Westonini, Keremal, Death
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 16th 2019, 6:40 PM EST
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

So GIF's Psychomagnet ability allows him to direct all actions at a single person. But seeing as he died, he probably didn't use the ability and just regularly killed abraker, then the mafia killed GIF.
Yeah, that was my theory as well. The only way that this could be incorrect is if there is another neutral killing. I still think that abraker's theory of 5 town, 2 maf, and 1 neutral makes the most sense. It could also have been 4 town, 2 maf, and 2 aliens though. In that case it would be 3v2v1 right now.

so pretty much, it's either 4v2 or 3v2v1.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

So if it was originally 5vs1vs2, it's now 4vs2. Or at least that's what seems most likely. But I suppose it's also still possible for there to be another neutral or mafia.
I highly doubt there is 3 mafia. That would just be unfair.
Westonini
poor abraker with his unrequited love.
Westonini
Death seemed to really jump-the-gun there with his accusation at Penguin.

That's not to say Penguin couldn't have killed abraker and just planned to tell everyone "That would be stupid of me to do that if I was mafia." But in this case it seems most likely that GIF was the one that killed abraker, not a mafia member.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

Death seemed to really jump-the-gun there with his accusation at Penguin.

That's not to say Penguin couldn't have killed abraker and just planned to tell everyone "That would be stupid of me to do that if I was mafia." But in this case it seems most likely that GIF was the one that killed abraker, not a mafia member.
I'm pretty sure that it was GIF's plan to kill abraker then frame me, but I can't tell if Death just fell for it or if he was trying to frame me as well.
Death
That's exactly what a guilty person would say.
Westonini
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure Death wasn't being serious. At the beginning of Day 1 he said

Death wrote:

Clearly it's Penguin's intention to eliminate everyone as fast as possible.

Vote: Penguin


Which was almost certainly a joke. So

Death wrote:

Should have voted for Penguin.


Was probably just a follow-up to that joke.
Penguin

Death wrote:

That's exactly what a guilty person would say.
now it just sounds like you're talking out of your butt.

Westonini wrote:

Was probably just a follow-up to that joke.
yeah, but he's still accusing me
Husa
poor abraker
cravenfiner

Husa wrote:

poor abraker

I think abraker was the most hyped about this too
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.2
Not Voting (6) - Penguin, Husa, cravenfiner, Westonini, Keremal, Death
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 16th 2019, 6:40 PM EST
Penguin
okay, well if there's 4 town, then we can vote someone today or tomorrow, assuming that only one of us dies tonight. If there's only three of us, we're kinda screwed.

we gotta be proactive and vote someone or else we're just gonna be sitting here twiddling our thumbs and doing nothing while mafia runs the game.
Westonini
So like, vote someone to get the ball rolling?
Westonini
But whomst'd've's'nd?
Penguin
I don't really have a read on anyone since no one is talking this game, that's the problem. I'm slightly sus of Death, but nothing substantial. Husa has posted like 2 times.
cravenfiner
we have 6 more days to think of someone logical to vote, so at least we have that
Death

Westonini wrote:

So like, vote someone to get the ball rolling?


Vote: Husa

They've barely said anything this entire game. Perfect strategy for mafia.
Penguin

Death wrote:

Westonini wrote:

So like, vote someone to get the ball rolling?
Vote: Husa

They've barely said anything this entire game. Perfect strategy for mafia.
I'm fine with this

Vote: Husa
Penguin
although, this could be Death just trying to get a bandwagon on someone besides himself since he knows I'm sus of him. Either way, it's a 50/50 and we have nothing else to go off of. Unless someone got info last night.
keremaru

Penguin wrote:

I don't really have a read on anyone since no one is talking this game, that's the problem. I'm slightly sus of Death, but nothing substantial. Husa has posted like 2 times.


Death is fairly sus, since he's only been pointing fingers and not really providing much support in trying to figure out who's what, so he might be Godfather, however contradictory that statement is. Simply voting for someone doesn't make you innocent. However, Husa might be a mafioso, seeing as he rarely talks in this game, which would provide a real nuisance to Death, in the event that he's actually planning something. Again, contradictive of me, I know- But it's pretty plausible for someone who doesn't like the fact that a fellow mafioso isn't helping them keep their cover up do a friendly-fire vote. Then again, Death and Husa might be exceptions/townies that're unintentionally trying to mislead people, and Death is actually a Normal Townie.

Westonini appears to be legitimate, maybe an Investigator ploy even. But his eagerness to vote someone off to get the show started raises a small, but still distinct, red flag immediately. Probably a Vigilante, to be real.

However, I have to consider the fact that I'm going out on a limb, if not slanted towards one particular outcome, and so I won't define my vote as anything until damn well sufficient evidence is provided or theorized. If anything, I'll help push the boot to Husa in the event that nobody could figure something out.
Husa
are you serious???? :|

i dont quite get the game tbh. what happens if the lynched is a townie?
Husa

cravenfiner wrote:

we have 6 more days to think of someone logical to vote, so at least we have that
thats risky, wouldnt day 1 repeat over and over again?

Vote: cravenfiner
Westonini

Husa wrote:

are you serious???? :|

i dont quite get the game tbh. what happens if the lynched is a townie?


Exactly what you'd expect. They're eliminated, regardless of if they were innocent or not. Goes without saying that it would be disadvantageous for the townies as a result of an incorrect accusation.

If you claim you don't understand some aspects of the game, it's obviously pretty important that you should ask about it or search it up. Otherwise you really only have yourself to blame. In my eyes this is just a bit suspicious. I got the feeling as if you're acting confused and harmless to make people think you're less of a threat. But at the same time you may genuinely just be confused so who knows.

Things seem to be moving along so I'll save my vote for a couple more days perhaps.
Husa

Westonini wrote:

Exactly what you'd expect. They're eliminated, regardless of if they were innocent or not. Goes without saying that it would be disadvantageous for the townies as a result of an incorrect accusation.
would at least hoped that the first one who voted for me get lynched aswell if i were innocent. =/


as well as the 2nd lyncher :eyes:
cravenfiner

Husa wrote:

cravenfiner wrote:

we have 6 more days to think of someone logical to vote, so at least we have that

thats risky, wouldnt day 1 repeat over and over again?

no, since we have less people now because abraker and guy in freezer is dead there’s less people to contemplate about

Vote: Husa
kinda sus to vote me just for giving a reminder..
Husa
who thje hell isnt suspicious at this point? i dont know,

cravenfiner wrote:

kinda sus to vote me just for giving a reminder..
i find it a scheme of yours, going no lynch on day and then kill people off 1 by 1 at night
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.3
[L-1] Husa (3) - Death, Penguin, cravenfiner
cravenfiner (1) - Husa

Not Voting (2) - Westonini, Keremal
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 16th 2019, 6:40 PM EST
Penguin

keremal wrote:

Death is fairly sus, since he's only been pointing fingers and not really providing much support in trying to figure out who's what, so he might be Godfather, however contradictory that statement is. Simply voting for someone doesn't make you innocent. However, Husa might be a mafioso, seeing as he rarely talks in this game, which would provide a real nuisance to Death, in the event that he's actually planning something.
It's possible that they're both mafia, but at the same time, Death hasn't really talked much either, so I don't see the "nuisance" aspect being likely.

keremal wrote:

Westonini appears to be legitimate, maybe an Investigator ploy even. But his eagerness to vote someone off to get the show started raises a small, but still distinct, red flag immediately. Probably a Vigilante, to be real.
To be 100% fair, I'm the one who brought up the fact that town needs to lynch someone today. Westo is a solid town read in my eyes though.

Husa wrote:

cravenfiner wrote:

we have 6 more days to think of someone logical to vote, so at least we have that
thats risky, wouldnt day 1 repeat over and over again?

Vote: cravenfiner
craven meant 6 days as in real life days, not game days. He didn't mean that we shouldn't lynch someone.



So far by looking at the vote count and reading peoples reactions, I can boil down the teams to this.

If husa IS mafia, then either keremal or Westo are his mafia buddy since they aren't voting for him. Kere did put a little bit of suspicion on Death, so it would be most likely that kere is his buddy, especially since Westo is a solid town read.

If husa ISN'T mafia, then Death and craven are most likely mafia. So I can almost GUARANTEE that either Husa and keremal are mafia OR Death and craven are mafia.

to be honest, I'm kind of leaning towards the Death/craven theory, since Death already seems suspicious in my opinion and kere seems to be thinking logically about everything.

change vote: Death
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