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Pony Pony Run Run - Walking on a line

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Atema
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 07 September 2013 at 18:09:00

Artist: Pony Pony Run Run
Title: Walking on a line
Tags: You Need PPRR
BPM: 142
Filesize: 4836kb
Play Time: 03:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.37 stars, 225 notes)
  2. Hard (4.78 stars, 440 notes)
  3. Normal (3.91 stars, 301 notes)
Download: Pony Pony Run Run - Walking on a line
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi !
This is my 1st mapset, i hope u will enjoy it ^^
All difficulties are complete.
Thanks in advance for modding ! :)
Latest upload : 7th September, 06:13 pm (GMT+1) Please re-dl if downloaded before !
Changelog
2012 :
3rd June : Changed offset to 8:551
4th June : Changes thanks to Nekoko-kun's, h-728's & Frostmourne's mods, changed the audio file to a 192kbps one
5th June : Added an Easy difficulty
6th June : Changes thanks to h-728's & Clivery's mods
7th June : Changed background thanks to Kurokasi's remark
Changed background again to 800x600
Changes thanks to Kurokasi's & Athena Tennos' mods
Changes thanks to Midasmens' mod
Worked on my Normal & Hard diffs to add more curved sliders
Changes thanks to CDFA's mod
8th June : Changes thanks to Behonkiss' mod : majors changes to Easy & Normal diffs
Changes about hitsounds
Changes thanks to Marcin's mod
9th June : Major changes to the Easy diff thanks to hichman's mod
10th June : Changes thanks to JudgeTheDudes mod
11th June : Changes thanks to Pereira006's mod
Major changes to hitsounds
Changes thanks to Nickname128's & TheVileOne's mods
Major changes to the Easy diff
17th June : Changes thanks to SFG's mod
27th June : Major changes thanks to Reiji-RJ's mod
30th June : Changes thanks to Kokatsu's mod
1st July : Changes thanks to xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx's mod
2nd July : Changes thanks to ykcarrot's mod
3rd July : Changes thanks to -Baby Strawberry-'s & Chewin's mods
4th July : Major hitsounds changes thanks to f e a r's mod
Changes thanks to CXu's mod
6th July : Changes thanks to KersiTyan'mod
2013:
5th September : Ressurecting the beatmap ! Made some changes mostly to the Hard difficulty. Have troubles adding all the hitsounding
6th September : Changes thanks to sheela901's mod
7th September : Changes thanks to ZLOdeuka-'s mod
Nekoko-kun
Un petit mod qui j'espère aura été utile

Timing général:
BPM: 142 OK
Offset: Je serais d'avis pour 8:551 OK
Passer le snap divisor sur le 1/2 OK

Je pense que tu devrais utiliser l'AImod et le distance snap pour une première map.
h-728
Hi~
From mod req

General
  1. Bit rate of mp3 file should be between 128 to 192 kbps.
  2. Reconsider spacing of hitcircles and sliders.
Normal
  1. I think slider velocity(2.00, same as hard diff) a little difficult for normal.
    Consider to reduce it.(If you accept this suggestion, it means you have to change length of all sliders...)
  2. 02:45:945 (1) to 03:00:734 (5) - Copy paste, feeling boring.
Hard
  1. I think spacing a little confusing, just like 00:09:818(1,2,3,4,5)
    Rhythm ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHEt
    In your map ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHEn
    But according to the space of 00:09:818(1,2) ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHNp
Frostmourne
Hi , From my queue

Normal
It has over 3.0 star for the easiest diff, It's unrankable.
mono tone in this diff isn't good while playing , it's a bit boring :( , adding clap follows this pattern would be opportunity.

the slider is kinda fast for normal diff though
00:26:086 (3) - left 1 grid because the of the distance (1) overlap (2) then (2) should overlap (3) too
00:52:072 (3) - down 1 grid ^ reason same as above
00:57:776 (4,5,6) - you should use 0.7 same as 00:56:297 (1,2) -
01:18:058 (4,1) - huge jump for this diff
01:27:353 (4,5) - spacing , (5) should be far from (4) , player will miss (5) slider

Hard
00:33:480 (3) - left 1 grid , spacing is error
01:37:705 (1,2) - move these 2 notes about 2 left grid will be better because it did overlapping with 01:37:072 (8) -

Good luck ~
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you three for modding ! :)
Here are my changes following your mods (there's not Nekoko-kun's one as we already talked on IRC ^^) :

h-728's mod

h-728 wrote:

Hi~
From mod req

General
  1. Bit rate of mp3 file should be between 128 to 192 kbps.Changed, thanks !
  2. Reconsider spacing of hitcircles and sliders.
Used distance snap more than i previously did ^^

Normal
  1. I think slider velocity(2.00, same as hard diff) a little difficult for normal.
    Consider to reduce it.(If you accept this suggestion, it means you have to change length of all sliders...) Changed to 1,70 !
  2. 02:45:945 (1) to 03:00:734 (5) - Copy paste, feeling boring.
Well as it's following the same lyrics & ruthm all the time, i thought it woul de weird to change the "pattern". But i'll think about it !

Hard
  1. I think spacing a little confusing, just like 00:09:818(1,2,3,4,5)
    Rhythm ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHEt
    In your map ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHEn
    But according to the space of 00:09:818(1,2) ⇒ http://puu.sh/yHNp
Done !

Frostmourne's mod

Frostmourne wrote:

Hi , From my queue

Normal
It has over 3.0 star for the easiest diff, It's unrankable. I will add an easy diff soon !
mono tone in this diff isn't good while playing , it's a bit boring :( , adding clap follows this pattern would be opportunity.
Done, thank you !
the slider is kinda fast for normal diff though Changed to 1,70 :)
00:26:086 (3) - left 1 grid because the of the distance (1) overlap (2) then (2) should overlap (3) too
00:52:072 (3) - down 1 grid ^ reason same as above
00:57:776 (4,5,6) - you should use 0.7 same as 00:56:297 (1,2) -
01:18:058 (4,1) - huge jump for this diff
01:27:353 (4,5) - spacing , (5) should be far from (4) , player will miss (5) slider

As I completly changed all the spacing following the distance snap (x0,6 now), I think it's ok !

Hard
00:33:480 (3) - left 1 grid , spacing is error Done !
01:37:705 (1,2) - move these 2 notes about 2 left grid will be better because it did overlapping with 01:37:072 (8) - Done !

Good luck ~
Thank you ! :)
h-728
Hi~

Thanks for modding

[General]
  1. Set tags and source
  2. Add kiai time
[Easy]
  1. 00:08:551 (1,2,3,1) - same as normal
  2. 00:48:269 (3) - end at 00:49:114
  3. 01:04:114 (2) - start at 01:04:325 and end at 01:05:381
  4. 01:22:705 (1) - end at 01:23:429
  5. 01:28:832 add note
  6. 01:59:465 (4) - end at 02:00:100
  7. 02:07:706 (3) - end at 02:08:551
  8. 02:23:551 (2) - start at 02:23:762
  9. 02:42:142 (1) - end at 02:43:198
[Nomal]
  1. 00:40:874~00:42:987 Delete break time and add some notes
  2. 01:59:889~02:02:424 ^
  3. 02:43:410~02:45:945 ^
[Insane]
  1. HD-2 AR-1 OD-1
  2. 00:20:170~00:22:494 add some notes
  3. 00:40:874~00:42:987 ^
  4. 01:23:973~01:26:508 ^
  5. 01:59:889~02:02:424 ^ and add some notes
  6. 02:43:410~02:45:945 ^
  7. 03:03:480~03:06:227 ^
good luck
Cilvery
Hi~ <request from my queue>

[Easy]
00:11:720 - add whistle

00:18:269 - add clap

00:18:480 - remove clap

00:28:410 - add whistle

00:28:621 - ^

00:35:170 - ^

01:41:086 - ^

01:47:846 - ^

01:54:607 - ^

[Normal]
00:11:720 - add whistle

02:04:959 - add clap

[Hard]
00:08:973 - add whistle

00:09:818 - ^

00:10:663 - ^

00:33:480 - ^

01:18:480 - 3grid left
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:D
Topic Starter
Atema
Tank you both for modding ! :)
I really appreciate you help !

Here are my changes following your two mods :

h-728's mod

h-728 wrote:

Hi~

Thanks for modding

[General]
  1. Set tags and source Done !
  2. Add kiai time Done !
[Easy]
  1. 00:08:551 (1,2,3,1) - same as normal Changed !
  2. 00:48:269 (3) - end at 00:49:114 Done !
  3. 01:04:114 (2) - start at 01:04:325 and end at 01:05:381 Done !
  4. 01:22:705 (1) - end at 01:23:429 Done !
  5. 01:28:832 add note Done !
  6. 01:59:465 (4) - end at 02:00:100 Done !
  7. 02:07:706 (3) - end at 02:08:551 Done !
  8. 02:23:551 (2) - start at 02:23:762 Done !
  9. 02:42:142 (1) - end at 02:43:198 Done !
[Nomal]
  1. 00:40:874~00:42:987 Delete break time and add some notes
  2. 01:59:889~02:02:424 ^ Done !
  3. 02:43:410~02:45:945 ^
[Insane]
  1. HD-2 AR-1 OD-1 Just did HR-1 ^^
  2. 00:20:170~00:22:494 add some notes
  3. 00:40:874~00:42:987 ^
  4. 01:23:973~01:26:508 ^
  5. 01:59:889~02:02:424 ^ and add some notes Done !
  6. 02:43:410~02:45:945 ^
  7. 03:03:480~03:06:227 ^
Sorry I did not follow all your advices concerning adding some notes, beacause i found some of those breaks like... empty, with no lyrics (wich I am following for mapping), or bass ^^

good luck
Thanks ;)

Clivery's mod

Cilvery wrote:

Hi~ <request from my queue>

[Easy]
00:11:720 - add whistle

00:18:269 - add clap

00:18:480 - remove clap

00:28:410 - add whistle

00:28:621 - ^

00:35:170 - ^

01:41:086 - ^

01:47:846 - ^

01:54:607 - ^

All done ! :)

[Normal]
00:11:720 - add whistle Sounded a little bit aggressive for me so i didn't add it ^^

02:04:959 - add clap Done !

[Hard]
00:08:973 - add whistle

00:09:818 - ^

00:10:663 - ^

00:33:480 - ^

01:18:480 - 3grid left

All done :)

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:D
Thanks for your mod !
Kurokami
Since I'm too lazy now, I just offer you 2 things.

Since your background is unrankable, use this:
And your mp3 is also unrankable, use this: http://puu.sh/zcpu

Call me back when you changed them. :3
Topic Starter
Atema
We talked by PM about this issue and I redimensioned by background ^^
Concerning the song's bitrate, seems it was a mistake so everything's fine !

Thanks !
Kurokami
Okey, here is my mod.

Your beatmap need more work, but I point out a few things. You need to use more curved slider, the straight ones are a bit boring and old.
your offset is: 2320, after you changed it, you need to use Timing>Resnap all notes, then go through the whole map, and listen where are sounds wrong.

Easy
Try to avoid red ticks when its possible. Use long slider instead.
00:10:029 (1) - remove NC
00:17:424 (1) - remove NC
00:23:339 (3,4,1,2) - This will be hard for a beginners to read it. Try this: http://puu.sh/zeDz
00:29:255 (1) - i think you are able to do a better slider
00:35:804 (1) - remove NC
00:56:297 (1) - again, this is not looks good. This looks much better: http://puu.sh/zeFP
01:22:705 (1) - remove NC
01:55:240 (1) - ^

Your Hard is too simple, you need to do a more harder patterns, with distance snap. And here you are able to use 1/4 instead of 1/2, of course just if you want. And place notes/sliders where you hear something.

You placed to notes/sliders at the good place, but you need to use some patterns. I think this: t/37194 will be useful.
And search a bit here: viewforum.php?f=61
You will find useful things if you click on the above links, but you must not force them into your map. Just map, and place them, If you think one of them may fit into your map, use it. :3 On hard try to avoid the long straight slider, but on easy they are the most useful.

That's all. PM me if you have any question ot not understand something or just need some help. Good luck. Oh, and if you think your map is good enough, just call me. ^^
no kds this time, okey? :3
Athena Tennos
A-tan's mod.....

[General]
Background
pony-pony-run-run-walking-on-a-line800.jpg is 972 x 600, which differs from the recommended size of 1024 x 768 or 800 x 600.

[Easy]
00:17:424 (1,2) - alignment?~
01:27:776 (3,4) - distance not uniform~
03:00:311 (2,3) - alignment?~
03:00:311 (2,1) - ^

[Normal]
01:22:917 (2,3) - alignment?~

[Hard]
hmmmmmm.......all right...i cant find problem...orz

nice mapset...~
Good Luck~
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you both for modding ! :)
Here are the changes I made after reading your mods :

Kurokasi's mod
Okey, here is my mod.

Your beatmap need more work, but I point out a few things. You need to use more curved slider, the straight ones are a bit boring and old.
your offset is: 2320, after you changed it, you need to use Timing>Resnap all notes, then go through the whole map, and listen where are sounds wrong. I prefer setting my offset when the drums starts and not the guitar (wich is around the offset you just gave me ^^)

Easy
Try to avoid red ticks when its possible. Use long slider instead. I take good note of this :)
00:10:029 (1) - remove NC Done !
00:17:424 (1) - remove NC Done !
00:23:339 (3,4,1,2) - This will be hard for a beginners to read it. Try this: http://puu.sh/zeDz You’re right, done !
00:29:255 (1) - i think you are able to do a better slider Hem, u’re right XD Made a loop instead ^^
00:35:804 (1) - remove NC Sorry I did not, in all my difficulties the “ouh ouh ouh” are 1 full combo by themselves ^^
00:56:297 (1) - again, this is not looks good. This looks much better: http://puu.sh/zeFP Yes, done !
01:22:705 (1) - remove NC Well I did not because I thought I could confuse players and made them click earlier in the same combo ^^
01:55:240 (1) - ^ Same about the ouhouhouh thing ^^

Your Hard is too simple, you need to do a more harder patterns, with distance snap. And here you are able to use 1/4 instead of 1/2, of course just if you want. And place notes/sliders where you hear something. Well i mapped it all following the 1/2 and thought it was ok, so for now i'll keep going with it ^^

You placed to notes/sliders at the good place, but you need to use some patterns. I think this: t/37194 will be useful.
And search a bit here: viewforum.php?f=61
You will find useful things if you click on the above links, but you must not force them into your map. Just map, and place them, If you think one of them may fit into your map, use it. :3 On hard try to avoid the long straight slider, but on easy they are the most useful.
I was thinking about this too, i'll see what i'll do about it tomorrow :) I might not change my sliders a lot, but maybe just a very few, i'll see !

That's all. PM me if you have any question ot not understand something or just need some help. Good luck. Oh, and if you think your map is good enough, just call me. ^^
no kds this time, okey? :3

Thanks ! :)

Athena Tennos' mod
A-tan's mod.....

General
Background
pony-pony-run-run-walking-on-a-line800.jpg is 972 x 600, which differs from the recommended size of 1024 x 768 or 800 x 600.
Thanks ! Changed to 800x600, hope it dos not look too fuzzy !

Easy
00:17:424 (1,2) - alignment?~ Done !
01:27:776 (3,4) - distance not uniform~ Right, thanks !
03:00:311 (2,3) - alignment?~ Done !
03:00:311 (2,1) - ^ Done !

Normal
01:22:917 (2,3) - alignment?~ Done !

Hard
hmmmmmm.......all right...i cant find problem...orz

nice mapset...~
Good Luck~

Thank you ! :)
Midasmens
Hi~ Midas here....
Request from my queue

General
BG size is wrong~ you must use a 1024x768 or 800x600 to replace it. Be remember to use Full Submission when you change your BG and be careful to do that.
There are too many straight slider try to make a different.

Easy
00:28:198 (1) - remove NC (new color)
00:34:959 (1) - ^
01:09:818 (1,2,3) - distance problem here. In the easy diff you must order the distance to place your note.Don't use NC to fix the problem. DX
01:22:705 (1) - remove NC
01:40:874 (1) - ^
01:47:635 (1) - ^
well....I find that you use copy paste to place the rest of your map. It's not a good idea :|
Try to fix the problem same as I point out.

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Normal
00:46:367 (1,2) - not to fix the music. Try move to 00:46:579
01:38:762 (3,4,5) - it's too close for the note above. Try to fix it
02:05:804 (1,2,3) - same as 00:46:367 move to 02:06:015
~~~~~~

Hard
00:25:029 (9) - NC?
00:26:086 (3) - move to 00:26:297 and make 3 repeat after do that you can set a note here(00:26:086)
~~~~~~

That's it~
Look at your map.I find myself when I make my first map. Nothing to say cause you make a good beginning of your mapping career.
Just 3 point I want to tell you.

1st -Be confident and do your best.
2nd -Learn from the other map and try to make a different.
3rd -Be patient. Failure is the mother of success.
:)

As the lyric says
"But sometimes it's not easy for me. Come on, let's go back in time."
"Endless crisis, Shame on me. Make a promise and be strong"
Though it's a love song. But I hope you can learn from the lyric not only about the love.


Hope I can help you.

٩(๑╹◡╹๑)۶
Topic Starter
Atema
Thanks you for your mod ! :)
Here are the changes ^^

Midasmens' mod
Hi~ Midas here....
Request from my queue

General
BG size is wrong~ you must use a 1024x768 or 800x600 to replace it. Be remember to use Full Submission when you change your BG and be careful to do that.
As you posted when i actually was doing a full submission because of this, this should be ok ;)
There are too many straight slider try to make a different.
I will work on it !


Easy
00:28:198 (1) - remove NC (new color)
00:34:959 (1) - ^
01:09:818 (1,2,3) - distance problem here. In the easy diff you must order the distance to place your note.Don't use NC to fix the problem. DX
01:22:705 (1) - remove NC
01:40:874 (1) - ^
01:47:635 (1) - ^
well....I find that you use copy paste to place the rest of your map. It's not a good idea :|
Try to fix the problem same as I point out.

Everything done ! I'll think about remapping the second half of the song then, even though the ideas are not always here and I thought it was ok because it was an Easy diff ^^
~~~~~~

Normal
00:46:367 (1,2) - not to fix the music. Try move to 00:46:579
01:38:762 (3,4,5) - it's too close for the note above. Try to fix it
02:05:804 (1,2,3) - same as 00:46:367 move to 02:06:015

All done :) Thanks !
~~~~~~

Hard
00:25:029 (9) - NC?
00:26:086 (3) - move to 00:26:297 and make 3 repeat after do that you can set a note here(00:26:086)

Done ! :)

~~~~~~

That's it~
Look at your map.I find myself when I make my first map. Nothing to say cause you make a good beginning of your mapping career.
Just 3 point I want to tell you.

1st -Be confident and do your best.
2nd -Learn from the other map and try to make a different.
3rd -Be patient. Failure is the mother of success. :)

As the lyric says
"But sometimes it's not easy for me. Come on, let's go back in time."
"Endless crisis, Shame on me. Make a promise and be strong"
Though it's a love song. But I hope you can learn from the lyric not only about the love.

Hope I can help you.

You did a lot! Thanks you very much for your advices :)

٩(๑╹◡╹๑)۶
Shohei Ohtani
Kawaii!~

Overall:
Claps on 2 and 4~
Hitsounds too loud
Mostly for notes with 2 or more repeats, the pattern is generally very boring~. Try avoiding that.
The mp3 cuts out a bit suddenly ;~;. Make it fade out or something~
00:42:987 - Remove kiai
02:02:424 - Remove kiai

Hard:
00:17:635 (2) - Make this symmetrical ;~;
00:24:396 (8) - This note gets hidden in the pattern ;~;. Probably move it outward somewhere.
00:43:832 (4) - Make this symmetrical ;~;
00:47:424 (6) - Make this into 2 sliders
02:06:860 (6) - Make this into 2 sliders

Normal:
00:23:551 (4) - Make this symmetrical
00:33:903 (4) - Make this more of an S shape~

Easy:
00:18:903 (1) - Not very moe! Probably think of a different shape to make this :>
00:45:311 (2) - Just make this ~ shaped :>
00:48:269 (3) - ^
01:38:339 (3) - No
02:04:748 (2) - ~ shaped
02:07:705 (3) - ^
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you for your mod ! :)
Here are the changes i made following it :

CDFA's mod

CDFA wrote:

Kawaii!~

Overall:
Claps on 2 and 4~ Well i prefer to follow Clivery's pattern about hitsounds, as all my combos don't always finish by an even number ^^
Hitsounds too loud Tried to lower them, dunno if i made the right change XD
Mostly for notes with 2 or more repeats, the pattern is generally very boring~. Try avoiding that. Well i don't really see what you mean, could you give me an exemple ?
The mp3 cuts out a bit suddenly ;~;. Make it fade out or something~ Does it ? O_o Weird, it's from the CD...
00:42:987 - Remove kiai Done !
02:02:424 - Remove kiai Done !

Hard:
00:17:635 (2) - Make this symmetrical ;~; Done !
00:24:396 (8) - This note gets hidden in the pattern ;~;. Probably move it outward somewhere. Well it's an hard diff, people should be able to see it, shouldn't they ?
00:43:832 (4) - Make this symmetrical ;~; Done !
00:47:424 (6) - Make this into 2 sliders Sorry i did not liked how it sounded ^^
02:06:860 (6) - Make this into 2 sliders ^

Normal:
00:23:551 (4) - Make this symmetrical Done !
00:33:903 (4) - Make this more of an S shape~ I think the slider is too short to make a proper S

Easy:
00:18:903 (1) - Not very moe! Probably think of a different shape to make this :> You're right XD Changed ^^
00:45:311 (2) - Just make this ~ shaped :> Tried to do it a bit more ~ than previously ^^
00:48:269 (3) - ^ ^
01:38:339 (3) - No XD Yes, changed ^^
02:04:748 (2) - ~ shaped Same like the other one ^^
02:07:705 (3) - ^ ^
Behon
I liked how this song sounded, so here's a mod.

Easy:
This feels a little too relient on repeating sliders. Might want to mix things up a little for variety's sake. Add some more finishes as well.
Too many claps, too. Get rid of some of them or replace them with other sound effects.
00:18:480 (5) - Putting this so soon after the slider end on an Easy difficulty seems a bit wrong. Maybe get rid of this circle and extend the slider to end at this point instead? There are actually a lot of these 1/2 circles right after sliders here; you might want to get rid of some of them.
01:19:748 (1) - Move this to 01:19:959
01:26:508 (1) - Move this to 01:26:720
02:39:184 (1) - Move this to 02:39:396

Normal:
Slider speed seems overly fast for a Normal.
Same problem with overuse of claps and repeating sliders.

Hard:
I see more normal hitcircles here. That's good.
00:17:635 (2) - Try to make this slider look more symmetrical.
00:45:522 (5) - Move this down 1 grid square to make this group of circles more neat-looking, and again symmetrical.
02:57:353 (5) - Move this up 1 grid square so it's on the same horizontal plane as 4.

This is a good job for your first map, and I hope you'll make more.
Topic Starter
Atema
Thanks you very much for your mod and your encouragements ! :)
That makes me wanna improve even more :)
Here are the changes I made :

Behonkiss' mod

Behonkiss wrote:

I liked how this song sounded, so here's a mod.


Easy:
This feels a little too relient on repeating sliders. Might want to mix things up a little for variety's sake. Add some more finishes as well.
Too many claps, too. Get rid of some of them or replace them with other sound effects.
00:18:480 (5) - Putting this so soon after the slider end on an Easy difficulty seems a bit wrong. Maybe get rid of this circle and extend the slider to end at this point instead? There are actually a lot of these 1/2 circles right after sliders here; you might want to get rid of some of them.
01:19:748 (1) - Move this to 01:19:959
01:26:508 (1) - Move this to 01:26:720
02:39:184 (1) - Move this to 02:39:396

I did all of this, tried to add more circle while removing some sliders, I hope it's more enjoyable now !

Normal:
Slider speed seems overly fast for a Normal.
Same problem with overuse of claps and repeating sliders.

Tried to solve the problem of sliders, and changed slider velocity to 1,60 instead of 1,70 (I rechecked all my map after this ofc)

I also tried my best to change everything about the hitsounds to make it look better in those 2 diffs


Hard:
I see more normal hitcircles here. That's good.
00:17:635 (2) - Try to make this slider look more symmetrical.
00:45:522 (5) - Move this down 1 grid square to make this group of circles more neat-looking, and again symmetrical.
02:57:353 (5) - Move this up 1 grid square so it's on the same horizontal plane as 4.

All done ! :)

This is a good job for your first map, and I hope you'll make more.
Thank you very much once again ! :)
Marcin
[Easy]
REALLY boring diff, I'd suggest usage of more patterns and add more curved sliders (I mean change existing with ctrl)
00:18:903 (1) - You can remove last curve point and move red one
00:56:297 (1) - Start is not on the same line as end :c
01:04:325 (2) - ??? i mean, start and end... do something to make more normal...
02:23:762 (2) - ^
01:38:339 (3) - Remake, it's ugly (more space between start and circle than end and circle):(
02:15:734 (1) - ugly :(
[Normal]
00:33:903 (4) - ??? maybe red curve at the end?
00:39:607 (3) - You know you can make this better...
00:42:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
00:50:170 (2) - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21125662/compi ... _00381.jpg
02:04:748 (2) - it's too hidden...
02:33:691 (5) - one grid down?
[Hard]
02:33:691 (5) - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21125662/compi ... _00382.jpg
00:51:438 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
01:04:536 (5,6) - ^
01:10:874 (4) - remove clap?
01:29:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing? (i don't mention jump)
01:38:339 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^
01:49:959 (5,6,7) - ^
02:46:156 (2,3) - ^
02:49:536 (2,3) - ^
Too much copy and pase

ot: bass :*
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you for your mod, even though nothing was wrong with all the spacing issues you pointed out : you just had to chack with the distance snap to see it was ok.
Here are the few changes i made following your mod :

Marcin's mod

Marcin wrote:

[Easy]
REALLY boring diff, I'd suggest usage of more patterns and add more curved sliders (I mean change existing with ctrl) I'll think about it even though i won't curve them all i think the song is more made for laned sliders than curved.
00:18:903 (1) - You can remove last curve point and move red one
00:56:297 (1) - Start is not on the same line as end :c Done
01:04:325 (2) - ??? i mean, start and end... do something to make more normal... Heee lol, this one shocked you so much for 1 grid up in the end ?
02:23:762 (2) - ^ ^
01:38:339 (3) - Remake, it's ugly (more space between start and circle than end and circle):( Instead of ugly i think you could have just said that i could make it more symmetrical.
02:15:734 (1) - ugly :( ^
[Normal]
00:33:903 (4) - ??? maybe red curve at the end? No, it's not symmetrical if i do so
00:39:607 (3) - You know you can make this better...
00:42:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing Nop ^^
00:50:170 (2) - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21125662/compi ... _00381.jpg Yours is not symmetrical, mine is.
02:04:748 (2) - it's too hidden... Well i don't think so
02:33:691 (5) - one grid down? Done
[Hard]
02:33:691 (5) - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21125662/compi ... _00382.jpg Same as the previous image Plus, sorry about that but it's the wrong diff and time XD
00:51:438 (1,2,3,4) - spacing Nop ^^
01:04:536 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:10:874 (4) - remove clap? Done for this one and the 8
01:29:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing? (i don't mention jump) This one was right, done
01:38:339 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ Nop ^^
01:49:959 (5,6,7) - ^ ^
02:46:156 (2,3) - ^ ^
02:49:536 (2,3) - ^ ^
Too much copy and pase

ot: bass :*
Marcin
Well, I don't use distance snap :3 So sorry for pointless mod D:
And sorry for nazis mods :D
btw https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21125662/compi ... _00381.jpg really ?
My Angel Kitteh
Requested mod :3

So here we go~

[Easy]

00:09:818 add circle to x:256 y:240 and clap
00:11:086 take clap away
00:18:903 decrease the slider and move it to 00:19:114
00:22:494 add clap
00:23:339 ^ to this side of slider, don't touch other sides
00:25:663 - 00:26:931 move this part to 00:25:874 - 00:27:142
00:27:565 add circle to x:224 y:192 and clap
00:29:255 this slider must end at 00:30:945 - fix it
00:31:579 move it to 00:31:367
00:32:212 add circle to x:344 y:104 and clap
00:32:635 remove clap
00:33:269 move it to 00:33:480
00:33:480 this slider must end at 00:34:325 - fix it
00:35:804 move it to 00:36:015
00:36:438 ^ to 00:36:649
00:37:283 add circle to x:280 y:88
00:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 00:37:705 - it must end at 00:38:551
00:38:551 move circle to 00:38:762
00:38:762 decrease the slider and move it to 00:38:973 - it must end at 00:39:396
00:39:607 move slider to 00:39:818
00:49:748 ^ to 00:49:536
00:51:438 ^ to 00:51:227
00:58:198 this slider must end at 00:58:832
01:03:058 move it to 01:02:846
01:04:325 decrease the slider and move it to 01:03:903 - it must end at 01:04:748
01:05:170 add circle to x:136 y:200
01:05:593 ^ to to x:208 y:200
01:06:227 - 01:09:184 move to 01:06:015 - 01:08:973
01:09:396 add circle to the end of the slider
01:10:874 move it to 01:10:663
01:11:931 add circle to x:224 y:96
01:12:353 ^ to x:224 y:24
01:12:987 - 01:15:522 move this part to 01:12:776 - 01:15:311
01:15:734 add circle to the end of the slider
01:16:367 - 01:17:635 move this part to 01:16:156 - 01:17:424
01:17:635 decrease the slider and move it to 01:17:846 - it must end at 01:18:691
01:19:114 add circle to x:328 y:188
01:19:748 - 01:20:593 move this part to 01:19:536 - 01:20:381
01:21:015 increase the slider and move it to 01:20:804 - it must end at 01:22:494
01:22:494 increase the slider and move it to 01:22:917 - it must end at 01:23:762
01:26:720 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:27:142
01:27:776 move it to 01:27:565
01:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider
01:29:466 remove 1 reverse arrow and move slider to 01:29:043 - it must end at 01:29:677
01:30:311 increase the slider and move it to 01:30:100 - it must end at 01:30:522
01:34:959 increase the slider and move it to 01:34:748 - it must end at 01:35:170
01:36:015 increase the slider - it must end at 01:36:438
01:36:860 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:37:283
01:38:128 add circle to x:184 y:360
01:38:339 decrease the slider and move it to 01:38:551 - it must end at 01:39:818
01:40:241 add circle to the end of the slider
01:43:832 move the slider to 01:44:043
01:44:466 move circle to 01:44:677
01:44:677 ^ to 01:44:889
01:45:100 - 01:46:367 move this part to 01:45:311 - 01:46:579
01:48:691 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:50:381
01:51:015 move the slider to 01:50:804
01:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider
01:54:396 add 1 more reverse - it must end at 01:55:029
01:55:241 - 01:56:508 move this part to 01:55:452 - 01:56:720
01:56:931 decrease the slider and move it to 01:57:142 - it must end at 01:57:987
01:58:621 decrease the slider and move it to 01:58:832 - it must end at 01:59:255
01:59:466 move the slider to 01:59:677
02:09:184 ^ to 02:08:973
02:10:874 ^ to 02:10:663
02:17:635 increase the slider - it must end at 02:18:269
02:18:903 - 02:21:860 move this part to 02:18:691 - 02:21:649
02:22:494 remove 1 reverse arrow - it must end at 02:22:917
02:23:339 add circle to the end of the slider
02:23:762 increase the slider - it must end at 02:25:029
02:25:663 - 02:28:621 move this part to 02:25:452 - 02:28:410
02:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider
02:30:311 move it to 02:30:100
02:31:367 add circle to the end of the slider
02:31:790 ^
02:32:424 - 02:34:959 move this part to 02:32:212 - 02:34:748
02:35:170 add circle to the end of the slider
02:35:593 ^
02:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 02:37:705 - it must end at 02:38:551
02:39:184 - 02:40:029 move this part to 02:38:973 - 02:39:818
02:40:452 increase the slider and move it to 02:40:241 - it must end at 02:41:931
02:42:142 increase the slider and move it to 02:42:353 - it must end at 02:43:198
02:45:945 - 02:46:790 move this part to 02:45:734 - 02:46:579
02:47:212 decrease the slider and move it to 02:47:001 - it must end at 02:47:846
02:48:269 add circle to the end of the slider
02:48:691 ^
02:49:325 - 02:50:170 move this part to 02:49:114 - 02:49:959
02:50:593 decrease the slider and move it to 02:50:381 - it must end at 02:51:227
02:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider
02:52:072 ^
02:52:705 - 02:53:551 move this part to 02:52:494 - 02:53:339
02:53:973 decrease the slider and move it to 02:53:762 - it must end at 02:54:607
02:55:029 add circle to the end of the slider
02:55:452 ^
02:56:086 - 02:56:931 move this part to 02:55:874 - 02:56:720
02:57:353 decrease the slider and move it to 02:57:142 - it must end at 02:57:987
02:58:410 add circle to the end of the slider
02:58:832 ^
02:59:466 - 03:00:311 move this part to 02:59:255 - 03:00:100
03:00:734 decrease the slider and move it to 03:00:522 - it must end at 03:01:367
03:01:790 add circle to the end of the slider
03:02:212 ^
03:02:424 remove 1 reverse arrow and move it to 03:02:635 - it must end at 03:03:058
03:06:227 move it to 03:06:015
03:07:494 ^ to 03:07:705
03:09:184 ^ to 03:09:396
03:10:663 add circle to the end of the slider
03:11:297 move circle to 03:11:086

OH MY GOD, AT LEAST I'VE DONE IT!
Normal and hard i'll check tomorrow.
Go to fix all your mistakes! Good luck :3
Topic Starter
Atema
Yayyy thanks hichman, finally i made it throught this huge mod ! XD
So here we go, here are the changes i made for my easy diff after your mod
( and don't worry Marcin I have nothing against nazi mods ^^ )

hichman's mod
00:09:818 add circle to x:256 y:240 and clap Done !
00:11:086 take clap away Done !
00:18:903 decrease the slider and move it to 00:19:114 I decreased it but didn’t move it to let him start at the “you” ^^
00:22:494 add clap Done !
00:23:339 ^ to this side of slider, don't touch other sides Done ! Didn’t know we could only set a clap on only one side ! XD
00:25:663 - 00:26:931 move this part to 00:25:874 - 00:27:142 Well I did not move the part, because it sounded weird to me not to start at the beginning of the “Cmon”, but I changed the first slider by 3 circles to make it sound better
00:27:565 add circle to x:224 y:192 and clap Done !
00:29:255 this slider must end at 00:30:945 - fix it Done !
00:31:579 move it to 00:31:367 Done !
00:32:212 add circle to x:344 y:104 and clap Done !
00:32:635 remove clap Done !
00:33:269 move it to 00:33:480 Done !
00:33:480 this slider must end at 00:34:325 - fix it Done !
00:35:804 move it to 00:36:015 Done !
00:36:438 ^ to 00:36:649 Done !
00:37:283 add circle to x:280 y:88 Added a circle but not where u mentioned, due to the distance snap
00:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 00:37:705 - it must end at 00:38:551 Done !
00:38:551 move circle to 00:38:762 Done !
00:38:762 decrease the slider and move it to 00:38:973 - it must end at 00:39:396 Done !
00:39:607 move slider to 00:39:818 I did but I increased the previous slider so when he sings the “me”, it’s not empty
00:49:748 ^ to 00:49:536 Lyrics ^^
00:51:438 ^ to 00:51:227 ^
00:58:198 this slider must end at 00:58:832 Done !
01:03:058 move it to 01:02:846 Sorry i did not, prefer to start it at the « Cmon »
01:04:325 decrease the slider and move it to 01:03:903 - it must end at 01:04:748 As I did not move the previous one, I’m not moving this one either ^^
01:05:170 add circle to x:136 y:200 ^
01:05:593 ^ to x:208 y:200 Added but not here ^^
01:06:227 - 01:09:184 move to 01:06:015 - 01:08:973 Done !
01:09:396 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
01:10:874 move it to 01:10:663 I did not so it starts at the « let’s » ^^
01:11:931 add circle to x:224 y:96 ^
01:12:353 ^ to x:224 y:24 Done !
01:12:987 - 01:15:522 move this part to 01:12:776 - 01:15:311 Well I did not but I changed the slider (5) so I could add the circle you recommend after, which sounds great
01:15:734 add circle to the end of the slider ^
01:16:367 - 01:17:635 move this part to 01:16:156 - 01:17:424 I moved it a tick after and not a tick before so it fits better the lyrics
01:17:635 decrease the slider and move it to 01:17:846 - it must end at 01:18:691 ^
01:19:114 add circle to x:328 y:188 ^
01:19:748 - 01:20:593 move this part to 01:19:536 - 01:20:381 Can’t because of the lyrics ^^
01:21:015 increase the slider and move it to 01:20:804 - it must end at 01:22:494 ^
01:22:494 increase the slider and move it to 01:22:917 - it must end at 01:23:762 ^
01:26:720 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:27:142 Done !
01:27:776 move it to 01:27:565 Can’t because of the lyrics ^^
01:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider As I did not follow the previous advice, I can’t follow this one
01:29:466 remove 1 reverse arrow and move slider to 01:29:043 - it must end at 01:29:677 I did not to follow the lyrics but removed 1 reverse arrow…
01:30:311 increase the slider and move it to 01:30:100 - it must end at 01:30:522 …so could do this ^^
01:34:959 increase the slider and move it to 01:34:748 - it must end at 01:35:170 Moved it a tick after and not before
01:36:015 increase the slider - it must end at 01:36:438 Done !
01:36:860 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:37:283 Done !
01:38:128 add circle to x:184 y:360 I did not, cause there’s no lyrics here ^^
01:38:339 decrease the slider and move it to 01:38:551 - it must end at 01:39:818 I did not, following the lyrics ^^
01:40:241 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
01:43:832 move the slider to 01:44:043 Same as above red ^^
01:44:466 move circle to 01:44:677 ^
01:44:677 ^ to 01:44:889 ^
01:45:100 - 01:46:367 move this part to 01:45:311 - 01:46:579 ^
01:48:691 increase the slider - it must end at 01:50:381 ^
01:51:015 move the slider to 01:50:804 I did not, cause there’s no lyrics here ^^
01:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider This does not fit the lyrics :p
01:54:396 add 1 more reverse - it must end at 01:55:029 Nahhh it’s « ouhouhouh », not « ouhouhouhouh !” ! :p
01:55:241 - 01:56:508 move this part to 01:55:452 - 01:56:720 Lyrics !
01:56:931 decrease the slider and move it to 01:57:142 - it must end at 01:57:987 Done !
01:58:621 decrease the slider and move it to 01:58:832 - it must end at 01:59:255 Changed it but so it could fit the lyrics better ^^
01:59:466 move the slider to 01:59:677 ^
02:09:184 ^ to 02:08:973 Lyrics ^^
02:10:874 ^ to 02:10:663 ^
02:17:635 increase the slider - it must end at 02:18:269 Done !
02:18:903 - 02:21:860 move this part to 02:18:691 - 02:21:649 Lyrics again :p
02:22:494 remove 1 reverse arrow - it must end at 02:22:917 ^
02:23:339 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:23:762 increase the slider - it must end at 02:25:029 ^
02:25:663 - 02:28:621 move this part to 02:25:452 - 02:28:410 Done !
02:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
02:30:311 move it to 02:30:100 Lyrics ^^
02:31:367 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:31:790 ^ Done !
02:32:424 - 02:34:959 move this part to 02:32:212 - 02:34:748 Lyrics ^^
02:35:170 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
02:35:593 ^ Lyrics ^^
02:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 02:37:705 - it must end at 02:38:551 ^
02:39:184 - 02:40:029 move this part to 02:38:973 - 02:39:818 ^
02:40:452 increase the slider and move it to 02:40:241 - it must end at 02:41:931 ^
02:42:142 increase the slider and move it to 02:42:353 - it must end at 02:43:198 ^
02:45:945 - 02:46:790 move this part to 02:45:734 - 02:46:579 ^
02:47:212 decrease the slider and move it to 02:47:001 - it must end at 02:47:846 ^
02:48:269 add circle to the end of the slider As I did not do the one above…
02:48:691 ^ ^
02:49:325 - 02:50:170 move this part to 02:49:114 - 02:49:959 ^
02:50:593 decrease the slider and move it to 02:50:381 - it must end at 02:51:227 ^
02:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:52:072 ^ ^
02:52:705 - 02:53:551 move this part to 02:52:494 - 02:53:339 ^
02:53:973 decrease the slider and move it to 02:53:762 - it must end at 02:54:607 ^
02:55:029 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:55:452 ^ ^
02:56:086 - 02:56:931 move this part to 02:55:874 - 02:56:720 ^
02:57:353 decrease the slider and move it to 02:57:142 - it must end at 02:57:987 ^
02:58:410 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:58:832 ^ ^
02:59:466 - 03:00:311 move this part to 02:59:255 - 03:00:100^
03:00:734 decrease the slider and move it to 03:00:522 - it must end at 03:01:367 ^
03:01:790 add circle to the end of the slider ^
03:02:212 ^ ^
03:02:424 remove 1 reverse arrow and move it to 03:02:635 - it must end at 03:03:058 I did and changed the following one ^^
03:06:227 move it to 03:06:015 Because of the lyrics, I did not ^^
03:07:494 ^ to 03:07:705 ^
03:09:184 ^ to 03:09:396 ^
03:10:663 add circle to the end of the slider ^
03:11:297 move circle to 03:11:086 ^

The ennnd ! (at least for this diff XD)
Thanks again !
Marcin
I THOUGHT I'M FUCKING OVERMODING D:
hichman with THAT huge mod you could make your own easy D:
My Angel Kitteh

Marcin wrote:

I THOUGHT I'M FUCKING OVERMODING D:
hichman with THAT huge mod you could make your own easy D:
Lol that's right xD
S/he requsted a mod from me, but the whole map was made wrong xD
My Angel Kitteh

Atema wrote:

Yayyy thanks hichman, finally i made it throught this huge mod ! XD
So here we go, here are the changes i made for my easy diff after your mod
( and don't worry Marcin I have nothing against nazi mods ^^ )

hichman's mod
00:09:818 add circle to x:256 y:240 and clap Done !
00:11:086 take clap away Done !
00:18:903 decrease the slider and move it to 00:19:114 I decreased it but didn’t move it to let him start at the “you” ^^
00:22:494 add clap Done !
00:23:339 ^ to this side of slider, don't touch other sides Done ! Didn’t know we could only set a clap on only one side ! XD
00:25:663 - 00:26:931 move this part to 00:25:874 - 00:27:142 Well I did not move the part, because it sounded weird to me not to start at the beginning of the “Cmon”, but I changed the first slider by 3 circles to make it sound better
00:27:565 add circle to x:224 y:192 and clap Done !
00:29:255 this slider must end at 00:30:945 - fix it Done !
00:31:579 move it to 00:31:367 Done !
00:32:212 add circle to x:344 y:104 and clap Done !
00:32:635 remove clap Done !
00:33:269 move it to 00:33:480 Done !
00:33:480 this slider must end at 00:34:325 - fix it Done !
00:35:804 move it to 00:36:015 Done !
00:36:438 ^ to 00:36:649 Done !
00:37:283 add circle to x:280 y:88 Added a circle but not where u mentioned, due to the distance snap
00:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 00:37:705 - it must end at 00:38:551 Done !
00:38:551 move circle to 00:38:762 Done !
00:38:762 decrease the slider and move it to 00:38:973 - it must end at 00:39:396 Done !
00:39:607 move slider to 00:39:818 I did but I increased the previous slider so when he sings the “me”, it’s not empty
00:49:748 ^ to 00:49:536 Lyrics ^^
00:51:438 ^ to 00:51:227 ^
00:58:198 this slider must end at 00:58:832 Done !
01:03:058 move it to 01:02:846 Sorry i did not, prefer to start it at the « Cmon »
01:04:325 decrease the slider and move it to 01:03:903 - it must end at 01:04:748 As I did not move the previous one, I’m not moving this one either ^^
01:05:170 add circle to x:136 y:200 ^
01:05:593 ^ to x:208 y:200 Added but not here ^^
01:06:227 - 01:09:184 move to 01:06:015 - 01:08:973 Done !
01:09:396 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
01:10:874 move it to 01:10:663 I did not so it starts at the « let’s » ^^
01:11:931 add circle to x:224 y:96 ^
01:12:353 ^ to x:224 y:24 Done !
01:12:987 - 01:15:522 move this part to 01:12:776 - 01:15:311 Well I did not but I changed the slider (5) so I could add the circle you recommend after, which sounds great
01:15:734 add circle to the end of the slider ^
01:16:367 - 01:17:635 move this part to 01:16:156 - 01:17:424 I moved it a tick after and not a tick before so it fits better the lyrics
01:17:635 decrease the slider and move it to 01:17:846 - it must end at 01:18:691 ^
01:19:114 add circle to x:328 y:188 ^
01:19:748 - 01:20:593 move this part to 01:19:536 - 01:20:381 Can’t because of the lyrics ^^
01:21:015 increase the slider and move it to 01:20:804 - it must end at 01:22:494 ^
01:22:494 increase the slider and move it to 01:22:917 - it must end at 01:23:762 ^
01:26:720 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:27:142 Done !
01:27:776 move it to 01:27:565 Can’t because of the lyrics ^^
01:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider As I did not follow the previous advice, I can’t follow this one
01:29:466 remove 1 reverse arrow and move slider to 01:29:043 - it must end at 01:29:677 I did not to follow the lyrics but removed 1 reverse arrow…
01:30:311 increase the slider and move it to 01:30:100 - it must end at 01:30:522 …so could do this ^^
01:34:959 increase the slider and move it to 01:34:748 - it must end at 01:35:170 Moved it a tick after and not before
01:36:015 increase the slider - it must end at 01:36:438 Done !
01:36:860 decrease the slider - it must end at 01:37:283 Done !
01:38:128 add circle to x:184 y:360 I did not, cause there’s no lyrics here ^^
01:38:339 decrease the slider and move it to 01:38:551 - it must end at 01:39:818 I did not, following the lyrics ^^
01:40:241 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
01:43:832 move the slider to 01:44:043 Same as above red ^^
01:44:466 move circle to 01:44:677 ^
01:44:677 ^ to 01:44:889 ^
01:45:100 - 01:46:367 move this part to 01:45:311 - 01:46:579 ^
01:48:691 increase the slider - it must end at 01:50:381 ^
01:51:015 move the slider to 01:50:804 I did not, cause there’s no lyrics here ^^
01:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider This does not fit the lyrics :p
01:54:396 add 1 more reverse - it must end at 01:55:029 Nahhh it’s « ouhouhouh », not « ouhouhouhouh !” ! :p
01:55:241 - 01:56:508 move this part to 01:55:452 - 01:56:720 Lyrics !
01:56:931 decrease the slider and move it to 01:57:142 - it must end at 01:57:987 Done !
01:58:621 decrease the slider and move it to 01:58:832 - it must end at 01:59:255 Changed it but so it could fit the lyrics better ^^
01:59:466 move the slider to 01:59:677 ^
02:09:184 ^ to 02:08:973 Lyrics ^^
02:10:874 ^ to 02:10:663 ^
02:17:635 increase the slider - it must end at 02:18:269 Done !
02:18:903 - 02:21:860 move this part to 02:18:691 - 02:21:649 Lyrics again :p
02:22:494 remove 1 reverse arrow - it must end at 02:22:917 ^
02:23:339 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:23:762 increase the slider - it must end at 02:25:029 ^
02:25:663 - 02:28:621 move this part to 02:25:452 - 02:28:410 Done !
02:28:832 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
02:30:311 move it to 02:30:100 Lyrics ^^
02:31:367 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:31:790 ^ Done !
02:32:424 - 02:34:959 move this part to 02:32:212 - 02:34:748 Lyrics ^^
02:35:170 add circle to the end of the slider Done !
02:35:593 ^ Lyrics ^^
02:37:494 decrease the slider and move it to 02:37:705 - it must end at 02:38:551 ^
02:39:184 - 02:40:029 move this part to 02:38:973 - 02:39:818 ^
02:40:452 increase the slider and move it to 02:40:241 - it must end at 02:41:931 ^
02:42:142 increase the slider and move it to 02:42:353 - it must end at 02:43:198 ^
02:45:945 - 02:46:790 move this part to 02:45:734 - 02:46:579 ^
02:47:212 decrease the slider and move it to 02:47:001 - it must end at 02:47:846 ^
02:48:269 add circle to the end of the slider As I did not do the one above…
02:48:691 ^ ^
02:49:325 - 02:50:170 move this part to 02:49:114 - 02:49:959 ^
02:50:593 decrease the slider and move it to 02:50:381 - it must end at 02:51:227 ^
02:51:649 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:52:072 ^ ^
02:52:705 - 02:53:551 move this part to 02:52:494 - 02:53:339 ^
02:53:973 decrease the slider and move it to 02:53:762 - it must end at 02:54:607 ^
02:55:029 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:55:452 ^ ^
02:56:086 - 02:56:931 move this part to 02:55:874 - 02:56:720 ^
02:57:353 decrease the slider and move it to 02:57:142 - it must end at 02:57:987 ^
02:58:410 add circle to the end of the slider ^
02:58:832 ^ ^
02:59:466 - 03:00:311 move this part to 02:59:255 - 03:00:100^
03:00:734 decrease the slider and move it to 03:00:522 - it must end at 03:01:367 ^
03:01:790 add circle to the end of the slider ^
03:02:212 ^ ^
03:02:424 remove 1 reverse arrow and move it to 03:02:635 - it must end at 03:03:058 I did and changed the following one ^^
03:06:227 move it to 03:06:015 Because of the lyrics, I did not ^^
03:07:494 ^ to 03:07:705 ^
03:09:184 ^ to 03:09:396 ^
03:10:663 add circle to the end of the slider ^
03:11:297 move circle to 03:11:086 ^

The ennnd ! (at least for this diff XD)
Thanks again !
So vain.
In easy diffs is better to follow the rhythm, not vocal.
Cuz now map looks wrong again.
I insist you to fix all i've written.
My Angel Kitteh
Anyways i checked your normal and hard diffs.
They are better, but same mistakes as in easy diff - notes are in wrong ticks.
Please, obey me and fix this mistakes D:
Topic Starter
Atema
I think it would be a huge nonsense to follow the rythm in easy and the vocals in the other diffs.
Plus, if i always follow the white ticks even in normal in hard well, wouldn't it be way to simple ?
As long as it does not shock people when they play, sorry but for now i'll keep mapping following the vocals, following the rythm just sounds wrong for me on a song like this one.

Anyway, enven though we don't agree, you mod helped me to improve my map ( even if it's not in the way you wanted me to ^^), so thank you :)
My Angel Kitteh

Atema wrote:

I think it would be a huge nonsense to follow the rythm in normal and the vocals in the other diffs.
Plus, if i always follow the white ticks even in normal in hard well, wouldn't it be way to simple ?
As long as it does not shock people when they play, sorry but for now i'll keep mapping following the vocals, following the rythm just sounds wrong for me on a song like this one.

Anyway, enven though we don't agree, you mod helped me to improve my map ( even if it's not in the way you wanted me to ^^), so thank you :)
Incorrigible person xD
JudgeTheDude
Voilà voilà, pour le M4M:

Easy
00:52:283 Mets le Slider là, ça sera mieux
01:03:480 Met la fin du Slider ici, 1 reverse est suffisant si on suit la musique
01:19:748 - 01:20:593 Je pense que décaler ces 3 notes d'1/2 après collerait mieux, comme ça: http://puu.sh/zR2q
02:39:184 - 02:40:029 Même chose
Normal
02:45:945 - 03:02:001 Décale toutes les notes (les combos qui se répetent) d'1/2 plus tôt, démarre à 02:45:734 pour finir à 03:01:790 http://puu.sh/zR8x
Hard
00:18:480 Le 3 me semble un peu éloigné, essaie de le mettre sous la fin du Slider
01:26:508 C'est placé bizarrement volontairement, mais essaie de les mettre en montant: http://puu.sh/zRem
01:29:466 Même chose ici
01:27:776 Inverse le sens du Slider
01:43:198 Une distance équivalente aux autres du même combo serait judicieuse ^^ (en rapport avec le Distance Snap)
02:16:156 Le Slider sort presque de l'écran
02:17:635 Même souci
J'espère que ça t'aidera, et bonne chance ^^
Topic Starter
Atema
Merci ! Vu que je map selon les lyrics j'ai pas tout suivi mais quelques conseils quand même, puis c'est toujours utile d'avoir d'autres avis ^^
Voilà ce que j'ai changé :

JudgeTheDude's mod
Voilà voilà, pour le M4M:

Easy
Quote:
00:52:283 Mets le Slider là, ça sera mieux Done ! J’ai rallongé le 2 et changé la forme du 3 du coup ^^
01:03:480 Met la fin du Slider ici, 1 reverse est suffisant si on suit la musique Vu que je suit les lyrics et qu’il fait trainer le « Cmon » je laisse comme ça ^^
01:19:748 - 01:20:593 Je pense que décaler ces 3 notes d'1/2 après collerait mieux, comme ça: http://puu.sh/zR2q Désolée ça suit pas les paroles :(
02:39:184 - 02:40:029 Même chose ^


Normal
Quote:
02:45:945 - 03:02:001 Décale toutes les notes (les combos qui se répetent) d'1/2 plus tôt, démarre à 02:45:734 pour finir à 03:01:790 http://puu.sh/zR8x

Aww désolée ça colle pas avec les paroles ^^

Hard
Quote:
00:18:480 Le 3 me semble un peu éloigné, essaie de le mettre sous la fin du Slider Pour une question d’esthétique je laisse comme ça, puis ça fait un mini jump aussi ^^
01:26:508 C'est placé bizarrement volontairement, mais essaie de les mettre en montant: http://puu.sh/zRem Ça me remove mon jump si je le fais =(
01:29:466 Même chose ici ^
01:27:776 Inverse le sens du Slider Done ! Du coup grâce à ça tu m’a permis de trouver un meilleur pattern pour la suite ^^
01:43:198 Une distance équivalente aux autres du même combo serait judicieuse ^^ (en rapport avec le Distance Snap) Jump !
02:16:156 Le Slider sort presque de l'écran Quand t’édite oui mais pas quand tu joues alors ça devrait aller :)
02:17:635 Même souci ^


J'espère que ça t'aidera, et bonne chance ^^
Merci ! :)
Pereira006
Hello~~

Imo - > my opinion

[General]

The combo 1 is not make sense IMO just remove IMO

[Easy]

00:10:663 (6) - add clap the start slider and end slide most better (if you don't how do it ask me in-game i can teach you if you wanna)
00:16:156 (3) - add clap only middle slider
00:18:903 (1) - this slider is bad symentric i can see try this http://puu.sh/A4Wv most perfect symentric
00:22:494 (1,2) - bad symentric try better symentric (need grid 1 up only (2))
00:25:663 (1,2,3,4) - this is very hard for this diff easy just remove all note and add slider repeat or non-repeat this http://puu.sh/A4YC just newbie can pass it or try you owm remap this part to easy this diff is not hard or normal
00:29:255 (1) - add clap only end slider
00:31:367 (2) - ^ same
00:32:001 (3) - remove clap
00:32:635 (1) - add clap only start slider
00:33:480 (3) - add clap start and end
00:36:015 (1) - add clap start slider
00:36:649 (2) - add clap only middle
00:37:705 (1) - add clap start and end
00:39:184 (3) - I feel need new combo because this lyrics is change
00:41:086 (5) - add clap
00:44:889 (1) - thid clap is not make sense IMO just remove
00:45:311 (2,3) - lot points pleasse less points
00:48:269 (3) - same happened 00:44:889 (1)
00:56:297 (1) - 00:56:297 (1) - remove clap only end slider. I gonna stop mod hitsound, because some not make sense i can teach you. When you find BPM aswome you will listen at 00:08:973 and at 00:09:818 they are drums if you listen "Tsih" that need add clap like you did. So you need hitsound consciecnty exameple this http://puu.sh/A5cY that most better because they have drums spam always if you random hitsound this http://puu.sh/A5eN is bad. So i suggest you remap all hitsound just make hitsound conscienty most better.also if you listen not have drums just don't add clap and red tick too
01:29:466 (1,2) - I not big fan this most better if you do this http://puu.sh/A5ib
03:02:424 (1,2) - ^ same

not bad you did follow lyrics very well is good, but you need really study lot hitsound if you don't get it my mod because my eng is suck just ask me i can explain better if you wanna

[Normal]

again hitsound random some notes not make sense

01:07:494 (5) - bad align slider
01:45:100 (3,4) - is make me confuse because the repeat is hard try this http://puu.sh/A5no most better to gameplay

not bad is fine play for me

[Hard]

HP, OD and AR need -1 most better

00:58:198 (6) - IMO that slider is unread for me by default skin you need remap at 00:56:720 (3,4,5,6) like this http://puu.sh/A5rf or try remap you owm
01:38:973 (6,7,8,9) - grid 1 right to fix spacing
02:16:156 (3,4,5,6) - again same happened 00:58:198 (6)

really good
[]
The gameplay is really fine for me but you need really study hitsound, ask me in-game if you need help or difficulty
that all i think pleasse some mod you can't understand because my eng is suck pleasse ask me in-game i will try explain better
good luck and bye bye
Star you work hard and follow lyrics is great just keep it work !
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you very much for your mod (you've really been helpful !) and your star ! :)
I knew i needed to work on my hitsounds and you really helped me, i'm working on it right now ^^
Here are the changes i made following your mod :

Pereira006's mod

Pereira006 wrote:

Hello~~

Imo - > my opinion

[General]

The combo 1 is not make sense IMO just remove IMO Well i think it's a great intro for the song so I'll keep it ^^

[Easy]

00:10:663 (6) - add clap the start slider and end slide most better (if you don't how do it ask me in-game i can teach you if you wanna) Done !
00:16:156 (3) - add clap only middle slider Done !
00:18:903 (1) - this slider is bad symentric i can see try this http://puu.sh/A4Wv most perfect symentric Done !
00:22:494 (1,2) - bad symentric try better symentric (need grid 1 up only (2)) Done !
00:25:663 (1,2,3,4) - this is very hard for this diff easy just remove all note and add slider repeat or non-repeat this http://puu.sh/A4YC just newbie can pass it or try you owm remap this part to easy this diff is not hard or normal Done ! I did not follow your pattern but still I made something easier :)
00:29:255 (1) - add clap only end slider Done !
00:31:367 (2) - ^ same Done !
00:32:001 (3) - remove clap Done !
00:32:635 (1) - add clap only start slider Done !
00:33:480 (3) - add clap start and end Done !
00:36:015 (1) - add clap start slider Done !
00:36:649 (2) - add clap only middle Done !
00:37:705 (1) - add clap start and end Done !
00:39:184 (3) - I feel need new combo because this lyrics is change Done !
00:41:086 (5) - add clap Done !
00:44:889 (1) - thid clap is not make sense IMO just remove Done !
00:45:311 (2,3) - lot points pleasse less points Ahh sorry i don't wanna lower my tick rate just for these sliders, I think it's fine ^^
00:48:269 (3) - same happened 00:44:889 (1) Done !
00:56:297 (1) - 00:56:297 (1) - remove clap only end slider. I gonna stop mod hitsound, because some not make sense i can teach you. When you find BPM aswome you will listen at 00:08:973 and at 00:09:818 they are drums if you listen "Tsih" that need add clap like you did. So you need hitsound consciecnty exameple this http://puu.sh/A5cY that most better because they have drums spam always if you random hitsound this http://puu.sh/A5eN is bad. So i suggest you remap all hitsound just make hitsound conscienty most better.also if you listen not have drums just don't add clap and red tick too
Thank you very much for your explanations, I'll work on it !
01:29:466 (1,2) - I not big fan this most better if you do this http://puu.sh/A5ib Done !
03:02:424 (1,2) - ^ same Done !

not bad you did follow lyrics very well is good, but you need really study lot hitsound if you don't get it my mod because my eng is suck just ask me i can explain better if you wanna


[Normal]

again hitsound random some notes not make sense Working on it !

01:07:494 (5) - bad align slider Done !
01:45:100 (3,4) - is make me confuse because the repeat is hard try this http://puu.sh/A5no most better to gameplay Done !

not bad is fine play for me

[Hard]

HP, OD and AR need -1 most better Just did AR -1 because I think the rest is fine, and yes it looks better !

00:58:198 (6) - IMO that slider is unread for me by default skin you need remap at 00:56:720 (3,4,5,6) like this http://puu.sh/A5rf or try remap you owm Done ! Thank you very much for the pattern which really fits the lyrics well ^^
01:38:973 (6,7,8,9) - grid 1 right to fix spacing Done !
02:16:156 (3,4,5,6) - again same happened 00:58:198 (6) Done !

really good
[]
The gameplay is really fine for me but you need really study hitsound, ask me in-game if you need help or difficulty
that all i think pleasse some mod you can't understand because my eng is suck pleasse ask me in-game i will try explain better
good luck and bye bye
Star you work hard and follow lyrics is great just keep it work !
Thank you very much once again ! :)
Come[Back]Home
Ok lets do it, its my first mod, and my english is not the best :P

Easy

1) 00:18:269-> Make this to a Slider till 00:18:480, it better for New players in Osu.
2) 00:23:339-> Make a Slider till 00:23:762.
3) 00:24:184-> Circle :)
4) 00:24:607-> Circle :)
5) 00:25:029-> Slider till 00:25:241 :)
6) 01:37:705-> Slider till 01:37:917 :)
7) 01:45:100- 01:46:367 to dificult for an Easy Map
8) 03:02:424-> Same like 01:45:100

Normal

All okey :)

Hard

Well good work :)

And im sorry for my bad english.
TheVileOne
General

Easy is very, very difficulty for an Easy. It can be confusing to map partially to the beat and map to the vocals. You shouldn't have kick sliders that repeat half spaced from each other. You shouldn't have sliders that repeat more than twice that are half beat in length in an Easy. A lot of those sliders with a half note at the end are hard to read, considering it doesn't follow the beat. You change from vocal to beat within the same combo which shouldn't happen in an Easy. Lastly, mapping to 1/1 would not only be a lot easier, it would sound better, especially for your hitsounds. It's a Normal in every sense of the word.

Normal is better, but still would sound nicer if it was more on the beat. This song just doesn't sound nice mapped to vocals with no major sound underneath them. It generally just doesn't work all that well, but it becomes less noticable the more notes you add. The same applies for Hard. It's playable, but it sounds weird and offbeat.

You'll find a lot of what I'm saying is going to be the opinions of your modders. So ignore me if you want,but consider changing things that people repeatedly mention. and really I don't think this map is getting ranked with the Easy being mapped the way it is. The best recommendation I can tell you is to accept the beat for what it is and stop ignoring it. That's the only thing holding this beatmap back IMO.


Here's my chatlog.

http://puu.sh/AhrH

Atema, I know you're still learning. You'll figure these things out eventually. Good luck on this.
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you both for modding !
Here are the changes I made :

Nickname128's mod
Ok lets do it, its my first mod, and my english is not the best :P Don't worry ! It's always nice to see new people modding ! :)

Easy

1) 00:18:269-> Make this to a Slider till 00:18:480, it better for New players in Osu. Done !
2) 00:23:339-> Make a Slider till 00:23:762.
3) 00:24:184-> Circle :)
4) 00:24:607-> Circle :)
5) 00:25:029-> Slider till 00:25:241 :)
I did not follow the 2-5 points because it concerns the same part and I think it's fine like that ^^
6) 01:37:705-> Slider till 01:37:917 :) Done !
7) 01:45:100- 01:46:367 to dificult for an Easy Map I don't think so, and if it really is this then... they'll learn ! ;)
8) 03:02:424-> Same like 01:45:100 ^

Normal

All okey :) Thanks !

Hard

Well good work :) Thank you ! :)

And im sorry for my bad english.
Don't worry about that it's perfectly understandable ^^

About TheVileOne's mod, we talked a lot about it on IRC and disagreed on a lot of points, but sill I made some changes who, I hope, will make my Easy diff more understandable for some players, even though I mapped following the lyrics since the begenning and will keep on doing it ^^
Fenya
Hi~

Easy:
No kiai?
00:18:269 (6) - Sounds bad... Replace the slider for a circle, move next slider (1) to 00:18:691 and add a slider of 00:20:381 to 00:20:804 in my opinion, sound better http://puu.sh/Akja
00:23:339 (3) - I think this slider sound bad in this part, please fix it~
00:25:241 (4) - Remove
00:25:452 (1,2,3) - 1 tick left... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/339904
00:26:297 (2) - Move to x:162 y:214
00:26:508 (3) - Move to x:196 y:248
00:27:142 (x) - Add note
00:28:198 (5) - D:
00:37:705 (4) - Remove clap in reverse arrow
00:38:762 (5) - Remove note
00:38:973 (1) - Move 1 tick to left http://puu.sh/Akpr
00:42:987 (1,2,3) - Move 1 tick to left, sounds better
00:44:889 (4) - Replace for a circle
00:49:536 (1) - 1 tick left
01:03:058 (1) - Remove a repeat
01:03:903 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/Aksh
01:10:874 (4) - Put like this: http://puu.sh/AksK
01:12:775 (1,2,3,4) - Move 1 tick to left
01:14:043 (5) - These sliders don't go to the song, this is a Easy D:
Well... The rest of diff are same problems... Please, fix it... See notes to match your pace. Dx
Generally the rhythm are in the tick white and not red, Check it~

Normal:
Your distance spacing is the x0,6... I suggest change to x1,0
Please, fix the spacing and rhythm ;A;
00:37:494 (1) - I can't find the rhythm to this.
01:00:734 (5) - Spacing
01:07:494 (5) - SPACING D: Is a normal, no hard, no insane D:!!
01:10:874 (4) - spacing
01:13:832 (4) - ^
01:14:255 (5,6,7) - Sounds bad, I suggest fix this
01:29:466 (1,2) - ^

Sorry, but, I can't mod the hard Dx
Sorry for my poor English, Good luck~
riffy
hi there! request from queue

[General]
where's kiai times?
many overlaps ~_~
title is "Walking on a Line" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_Pony_Run_Run



[Easy]
so many short breaks. really confusing.
also i suggest to avoid 1/2 notes! it's [Easy]! Not Normal ~_~
sliders are too fast, imo
try to put new combos for every big white line or every second big white line http://puu.sh/ArBP

[Normal]
practically the same.sliders are too fast, imo
and many short breaks.

[Hard]
the same short breaks

~~~~~
just note: try to kkep flow in your mapping. it will plays better, imo.
meh. just a quick check, anyway
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you both for modding !
Here are the changes I made following your mods :

Fenya's mod

Fenya wrote:

Hi~

Easy:
No kiai? It's not mandatory is it ?
00:18:269 (6) - Sounds bad... Replace the slider for a circle, move next slider (1) to 00:18:691 and add a slider of 00:20:381 to 00:20:804 in my opinion, sound better http://puu.sh/Akja Extended the (6) slider and added a circle in the end of the circle but that's all
00:23:339 (3) - I think this slider sound bad in this part, please fix it~ Changed this part a bit
00:25:241 (4) - Remove ^
00:25:452 (1,2,3) - 1 tick left... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/339904 Done
00:26:297 (2) - Move to x:162 y:214 Removed it
00:26:508 (3) - Move to x:196 y:248 ~
00:27:142 (x) - Add note Done
00:28:198 (5) - D: :D
00:37:705 (4) - Remove clap in reverse arrow Right, done ^^
00:38:762 (5) - Remove note Done
00:38:973 (1) - Move 1 tick to left http://puu.sh/Akpr Nop Done but extended the slider
00:42:987 (1,2,3) - Move 1 tick to left, sounds better Doesn't fit the lyrics at all
00:44:889 (4) - Replace for a circle Nope
00:49:536 (1) - 1 tick left Moved 1 tick right
01:03:058 (1) - Remove a repeat Nope, I like it that way so it fits the "Cmon"
01:03:903 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/Aksh Does not fit the lyrics
01:10:874 (4) - Put like this: http://puu.sh/AksK ^
01:12:775 (1,2,3,4) - Move 1 tick to left ^
01:14:043 (5) - These sliders don't go to the song, this is a Easy D: Well they'll learn then :p
Well... The rest of diff are same problems... Please, fix it... See notes to match your pace. Dx
Generally the rhythm are in the tick white and not red, Check it~
But i'm mapping following the lyrics, and it makes no sense for me to map everything in a way I don't like. Few red ticks won't kill the new player, that's a way for him to learn.
Anyway I changed some of them due to some remarks, but I can't and don't want to delete all my red-ticks notes.


Normal:
Your distance spacing is the x0,6... I suggest change to x1,0 x1 Would be waaaay too big, But I'll consider changing it to 0,7 or 0,8
Please, fix the spacing and rhythm ;A; ^
00:37:494 (1) - I can't find the rhythm to this. Then listen to the lyrics ^^
01:00:734 (5) - Spacing This ain't a huge "jump" ( I doubt you could even call it this way) XD It'll stay like this for now
01:07:494 (5) - SPACING D: Is a normal, no hard, no insane D:!! ^
01:10:874 (4) - spacing Done
01:13:832 (4) - ^ ^
01:14:255 (5,6,7) - Sounds bad, I suggest fix this I don't think so
01:29:466 (1,2) - ^ ^

Sorry, but, I can't mod the hard Dx
Sorry for my poor English, Good luck~
Thanks !

-Bakari's- mod

-Bakari- wrote:

hi there! request from queue

[General]
where's kiai times? It's not mandatory and didn't think it would fit a song like this
many overlaps ~_~ Due to the distance spacing, so for now i'll keep it this way but I'll consider changing the Normal's one ^^
title is "Walking on a Line" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_Pony_Run_Run Right, thanks :)



[Easy]
so many short breaks. really confusing. Removed
also i suggest to avoid 1/2 notes! it's [Easy]! Not Normal ~_~ Can't avoid them all because of the lyrics that I'm following, but changed the ones i could
sliders are too fast, imo I think they're ok, I don't like too slow sliders even for new players, but they're not really fast as well, so I'll keep it this way
try to put new combos for every big white line or every second big white line http://puu.sh/ArBP I prefer to change them when the lyrics are changing, sounds more logical for me ^^

[Normal]
practically the same.sliders are too fast, imo Same remark as for Easy ^^
and many short breaks. Removed

[Hard]
the same short breaks Removed

~~~~~
just note: try to kkep flow in your mapping. it will plays better, imo.
meh. just a quick check, anyway
Thanks !

Well, and after some mods that pointed out something that could be a problem for my Easy diff, I wanted to give a little explanation :

Well as it seemed to annoy some people that my Easy had some notes on red ticks, I changed it a as much as I could, but I just can't remove them all because I want to map following the lyrics as I did from the begenning.
Sometimes when I try the suggestions it just sounds wrong for me, because it completly ignores the lyrics just to put the notes on a white tick, so I won't do what I don't like ^^ After all, isn't it a way for new players to learn as well ?
However, I really am trying to make efforts to satisfy most of the players, and some modders did understand my way of mapping, so I tried to mix my Easy between beats and lyrics.
Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
00:11:720 - this break is kinda odd, either map it or delete the part before it
00:20:804 (2) - clap
you might wanna put claps on that snare that keeps coming up
00:44:889 (1,2) - doesn't really fit the music
00:51:649 (2,3) - messy overlap
01:04:114 (2) - start this on the white tick
01:17:634 (2) - remove clap
01:19:748 (1) - on white tick
01:38:339 (2) - starts on white
01:48:691 (1) - ends on white
02:11:086 (2,3) - messy overlap
02:39:184 (1) - on white
02:50:593 (3,1) - messy overlap
02:53:973 (3) - ^
02:56:086 (1) - ^
03:09:184 (1) - move 1/2 later
Overall a bit of a clumsy map, you might do better thinking about when the music makes you want to click (and if this produces too difficult a map, pretend you are braindead and then do it again for an easier one :P). I'd suggest finding someone who specializes in hitsounds to help you with those as well.

[Normal]
00:11:720 - the very early break is still early
00:20:381 - map the gap
00:29:255 (1,2) - this may fit the music but it feels weird nevertheless
00:37:494 (4) - the start of this is at the wrong time
00:39:607 (3) - ^
00:41:508 - map the gap
01:24:396 - ^
01:42:776 (3,4,5,6) - this pattern is very messy and hard to read, especially for a Normal
02:43:621 - map the gap
03:03:903 - ^
Really most of what you need to do here is 1. hitsounds and 2. fill in all those gaps

[Hard]
Just so you know, your choice of circle size is not wrong here but people are going to be unhappy about it at you anyways.
00:18:480 (3) - a bit jumpy and also a bit hidden
00:23:550 (4,5,6,7,8) - messy, try to avoid overlap like this
00:30:311 (3,5) - ^
00:45:100 (3) - stack this under the end of the slider
00:52:917 (5) - spacing
01:14:255 (5,6,7,8) - messy
01:26:508 (1,2,3) - you shouldn't use in-combo spacing changes like this unless the music is doing something that makes it make sense
01:29:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this is a good example of when its ok :P
01:43:198 (1,2,3) - see this one can be easily fixed by moving the entire combo down under the slider so you dont need the extra space anymore
02:52:705 (1,2,3,4,5) - nice
Again, work on your hitsounds and there are fewer gaps but they still need filling

Best of luck on your first ever map!
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you very much once again for your help and your advice !
I won't do a detailled answer, because i followed it all and it sounds much better ^^

I still need to work on this early break, and change my hitsounds :)
Akiyama Mizuki
Hi there :D
Sorry for late ;_;

[Easy]
00:34:959 (3) - Delete all whistle and clap at reverse arrow
00:49:959 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/350176 Perfect.
01:09:396 (4) - x120 y284
Is it really Easy? Too fast SV

[Normal, Hard]
I quit
Maybe it's too hard to ranked.
Sorry
Because it is f***ing overmapped
No KDS
Reiji-RJ
Hello. Sorry for sooo long delay :<

General

  1. I heard that the name of albums is better to put to the tags, not to the source. So, replace it?
  2. Maybe add PPRR to the tags?
  3. Your .osb-file name is different from the name of the map, so delete it and do full submit.
  4. Also, you changed the title of the map but forgot to change the name of the topic. Change it to Pony Pony Run Run - Walking on a line. You can do this while submitting.
Easy

  1. There is too high Slider Velocity for Easy. Try to reduce it.
  2. 00:09:818 (4) - put new combo here as long comboes are not good for Easy. 3-4 long comb is good. (Also, it's better to put new combo on downbeats, so 00:10:241 (5) - here, but putting on (4) make symmetry C:)
  3. 00:11:931 ~ 00:15:311 - why it's not mapped? I don't see the reason. Also, it's bad choice for break time. Map it, please.
  4. 00:17:424 (4) - Put new combo here, you know why!
  5. 00:18:269 (6) - Clap on the beginning, you missed it. Also (nazi) move it 1 grid up and right
  6. 00:19:114 (1) - maybe move it to the middle? 2 grids right for better symmetry. Also, add clap to the beginning
  7. 00:21:649 - add a note here with clap to fill the blank space
  8. 00:23:339 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You missed claps in this part! Also, check up all your maps and add missed claps.
  9. 00:28:198 (5) - It's not good to have 1/2 rhythm in Easy diffs, you know? It's hard to read and play for newbies. So, remove this slider and add circle on 00:28:410 -
  10. 00:29:255 (1) - Make it more symmetrical as on this screenshot:
  11. 00:32:635 (1) - again, 1/2 slider. Make simple 1/1 slider from 00:32:635 till 00:33:058 -
  12. 00:34:959 (3) - as 00:28:198 (5) -
  13. 00:38:973 (1) - reduce it to 00:39:396 - (1/2 rhythm >:O)
  14. 00:39:818 (2) - I don't like finishes on this slider. Remove?
  15. 00:41:931 - add a note with clap!
  16. 00:42:987 (1) - Too bad too bad! Firstly, 1/2 rhythm, secondly too much repeats is hard to read for newbies. I suggest this:
  17. 00:45:311 (4) - then new combo here!
  18. 00:49:959 (1) - symmetry, whatch your symmetry!
  19. 00:51:649 (2) - reduce to 00:52:072 -
  20. 00:55:874 - add a note with finish
  21. 00:56:297 (1) - symmetry
  22. 00:57:776 (2) - remove this note
  23. 00:58:198 (3) - start from 00:58:410 till 00:58:832 -
  24. 01:03:058 (1) - remove this and put circles on 01:03:058 - and 01:03:480 -
  25. 01:03:903 (2) - also, extend this slider to 01:05:170 - and make it symmetrical C:
  26. 01:10:029 (2) - remove
  27. 01:10:874 (4) - buuu! Make this:
  28. 01:12:987 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, very hard for Easy. I recommend you:
  29. 01:17:634 (2) - remove it!
  30. 01:18:057 (3) - move to 01:18:269
  31. 01:21:225 (4) - finish on the beginning
  32. 01:22:915 (5) - extend to 01:23:762 -
  33. 01:29:466 (1,2) - it's better to make this:
  34. 01:35:170 (1,2) - make one slider from 01:35:170 - till 01:35:593 -
  35. 01:37:705 (1) - make just one circle on 01:37:705 -
  36. 01:38:128 (2) - extend to 01:39:818 -
  37. 01:40:874 (4) - You remembeer? Add just a circle to 01:41:086 -
  38. 01:43:832 (2,3,4,1,2) - haaaaard :< Make this!
  39. 01:47:635 (4) - as 01:40:874 (4) -
  40. 01:48:691 (1) - whatch your symmetry!
  41. 01:52:071 (1) - circles on 01:52:072 - and 01:52:494 -
  42. 01:52:705 (2) - start from 01:52:917 - and end on 01:53:762 -
  43. 01:54:396 (3) - you know what to do!
  44. 01:55:240 (1) - start from 01:55:029 -
  45. 01:55:874 (2) - make slider :<
  46. 02:01:790 - add a note?
  47. 02:02:635 (1) - make two circles on 02:02:635 - and 02:03:058 - or one slider
  48. 02:03:269 (2) - start from 02:03:480 - and end on 02:04:325 -
  49. 02:09:396 (1) - again, symmetry (like on 00:49:959 (1) - )
  50. 02:11:086 (2) - end on 02:11:508 -
  51. 02:14:889 - add a note with clap?
  52. 02:15:311 - ^ but with finish? D:
  53. 02:15:734 (1) - symmetry (like on 00:56:297 (1) - )
  54. 02:17:213 (2) - delete this note
  55. 02:17:635 (3) - start from 02:17:846 - and end 02:18:269 - here
  56. 02:22:495 (1) - remove it and add notes on 02:22:494 - and 02:22:917 -
  57. 02:23:551 (2) - start from 02:23:339 - and extend to 02:24:607 -
  58. 02:29:466 (2) - remove
  59. 02:30:311 (4) - uh... make this:
  60. 02:32:424 (1) - move to 02:32:212 -
  61. 02:32:846 (3,4,5) - gah, make this:
  62. 02:37:071 (2) - remove this note
  63. 02:37:494 (4) - move to 02:37:705 -
  64. 02:42:353 (5) - extend to 02:43:198 -
  65. 02:45:945 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I see, these comboes have the same rhythm. It's good, but move all this notes 1/2 later.02:45:945 (1,2,3) - this must start from 02:46:156 - and so on.
  66. 03:02:424 (1,2) - make this:
  67. 03:07:283 (2) - remove this note, then move 03:06:227 (1) - to 03:06:438 - and 03:07:494 (2) - to 03:07:705 -
  68. 03:11:297 (1) - remove this note.
  69. 03:11:508 (2) - and maybe remove finishes?
Normal

  1. At first, I think 1,6 slider velocity is too high for Normal D: Reduce it?
  2. OD +1?
  3. 00:10:241 (4,5,6) - watch your spacing! >:O and you forgot claps~ Check out all your claps, please
  4. 00:11:931 - again, map this break please
  5. 00:39:818 (4) - reduce to 00:41:086 - and make more symmetrical~
  6. 00:41:931 (5) - clap!
  7. 00:42:353 (6) - finish here and new combo
  8. 00:42:987 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - hm... this is quite hard D: Maybe try this?
  9. 00:47:847 (2) - I don't like that it's overlapped by 00:46:579 (1) - . Rearrange?
  10. 00:56:508 (2) - remove it, please. Doing this you make rhythm easier.
  11. 00:58:198 (6) - remove repeat and add note on 00:58:832 -
  12. 00:59:255 - and here note, please
  13. 00:59:466 (1) - then remove it.
  14. 01:02:212 - add a circle!
  15. 01:02:635 - this need a circle too
  16. 01:05:593 - ^
  17. 01:19:536 - You'd better add here a note and remove 01:19:748 (1) -
  18. 01:23:762 (5) - change this slider by circle on 01:23:762 -
  19. 01:28:832 - note!
  20. 01:29:466 (1) - I don't like whistles here. They are unexpected and don't fit :<
  21. 01:54:396 (1) - remove nc, there is no need to put it
  22. 02:09:607 (2) - whatch your symmetry as earlier
  23. 02:16:156 (3) - maybe remove one repeat and add a circle on 02:17:001? To make it easier
  24. 02:21:649 - circle!
  25. 02:28:410 - ^
  26. 02:35:170 - ^
  27. 02:43:198 (5) - change to one circle on 02:43:198 - ?
  28. 03:02:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you know, that's quite hard D: Maybe this:
  29. 03:11:508 (2) - remove finishes?
Hard

  1. HP drain -2, please
  2. 00:11:931 - map this break!
  3. 00:17:635 (2) - me casts symmetry on it!!
  4. 00:20:381 - what? again, map this.
  5. 00:30:945 (5) - make it neater:
  6. 00:32:001 (6) - (nazi) 1 grid left to line it with 00:30:311 (3) -
  7. 00:40:029 (4) - xD funny followpoints. Make this:
  8. 00:47:424 (6) - maybe some grids down to avoid touching circles?
  9. 00:50:593 (5) - followpoints :3 (just like it, haha)
  10. 00:56:720 (3) - looks ugly. Make something like this:
  11. 00:58:198 (6) - ^
  12. 01:02:212 - add a note
  13. 01:19:114 - ^
  14. 01:20:593 (4) - move it to the middle of x? :O
  15. 01:24:184 - note with clap!! Clap-clap!
  16. 01:24:607 - map it, huh!
  17. 01:53:762 - note?
  18. 02:16:157 (3) - shape~
  19. 02:17:635 (6) - ^
  20. 02:21:649 - note?
  21. 02:26:931 (5) - again, move it to the middle
  22. 03:11:508 (2) - remove finishes?
Oh, you really must work on your Easy and Normal. More and more. But your Hard diff is REALLY GOOD!
Good luck!
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you very much for your mod, your encouragements and your star !
You really helped me a lot :)
Here are the changes I made :

Reiji-RJ's mod

Reiji-RJ wrote:

Hello. Sorry for sooo long delay :<

General

  1. I heard that the name of albums is better to put to the tags, not to the source. So, replace it? Done !
  2. Maybe add PPRR to the tags? Done !
  3. Your .osb-file name is different from the name of the map, so delete it and do full submit. Done !
  4. Also, you changed the title of the map but forgot to change the name of the topic. Change it to Pony Pony Run Run - Walking on a line. You can do this while submitting.Done !
Easy

  1. There is too high Slider Velocity for Easy. Try to reduce it. Changed to 1,30 instead of 1,40
  2. 00:09:818 (4) - put new combo here as long comboes are not good for Easy. 3-4 long comb is good. (Also, it's better to put new combo on downbeats, so 00:10:241 (5) - here, but putting on (4) make symmetry C:) Ok I understand ! Done !
  3. 00:11:931 ~ 00:15:311 - why it's not mapped? I don't see the reason. Also, it's bad choice for break time. Map it, please. Done !
  4. 00:17:424 (4) - Put new combo here, you know why! Done !
  5. 00:18:269 (6) - Clap on the beginning, you missed it. Also (nazi) move it 1 grid up and right Done !
  6. 00:19:114 (1) - maybe move it to the middle? 2 grids right for better symmetry. Also, add clap to the beginning Tried to do something more symmetric !
  7. 00:21:649 - add a note here with clap to fill the blank space Done !
  8. 00:23:339 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You missed claps in this part! Also, check up all your maps and add missed claps. I will work on it ^^
  9. 00:28:198 (5) - It's not good to have 1/2 rhythm in Easy diffs, you know? It's hard to read and play for newbies. So, remove this slider and add circle on 00:28:410 - Well it's here to follow the "ouhouhouh" lyrics, and as I don't have much 1/2 and as it is mapped on smthg, i'll keep it this way for now :)
  10. 00:29:255 (1) - Make it more symmetrical as on this screenshot:
    Oh damn how did i miss this one it looked terrible XD Thanks !
  11. 00:32:635 (1) - again, 1/2 slider. Make simple 1/1 slider from 00:32:635 till 00:33:058 - Done !
  12. 00:34:959 (3) - as 00:28:198 (5) - Same as previous ouhouhou thing :)
  13. 00:38:973 (1) - reduce it to 00:39:396 - (1/2 rhythm >:O) Done !
  14. 00:39:818 (2) - I don't like finishes on this slider. Remove? Done ! Didn't even know why i put one here XD
  15. 00:41:931 - add a note with clap! Done !
  16. 00:42:987 (1) - Too bad too bad! Firstly, 1/2 rhythm, secondly too much repeats is hard to read for newbies. I suggest this:
    Done ! I did not used exactly the same pattern because I did not place the (4) where you did but i followed the same beat placement :)
  17. 00:45:311 (4) - then new combo here! Done !
  18. 00:49:959 (1) - symmetry, whatch your symmetry!
    Oh god, yes XD
  19. 00:51:649 (2) - reduce to 00:52:072 - Done !
  20. 00:55:874 - add a note with finish Done !
  21. 00:56:297 (1) - symmetry
    Done !
  22. 00:57:776 (2) - remove this note Done !
  23. 00:58:198 (3) - start from 00:58:410 till 00:58:832 - Done !
  24. 01:03:058 (1) - remove this and put circles on 01:03:058 - and 01:03:480 -
  25. 01:03:903 (2) - also, extend this slider to 01:05:170 - and make it symmetrical C:
    Done !Thank you very much for the pattern !
  26. 01:10:029 (2) - remove
  27. 01:10:874 (4) - buuu! Make this:
    Done !
  28. 01:12:987 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, very hard for Easy. I recommend you:
    Done ! Not the same pattern but i made smthg way easier !
  29. 01:17:634 (2) - remove it! Done !
  30. 01:18:057 (3) - move to 01:18:269
  31. 01:21:225 (4) - finish on the beginning Done !
  32. 01:22:915 (5) - extend to 01:23:762 - Done !
  33. 01:29:466 (1,2) - it's better to make this:
    Done ! And added one too on the white tick before
  34. 01:35:170 (1,2) - make one slider from 01:35:170 - till 01:35:593 - Done !
  35. 01:37:705 (1) - make just one circle on 01:37:705 - Done !
  36. 01:38:128 (2) - extend to 01:39:818 - Already was this way ^^
  37. 01:40:874 (4) - You remembeer? Add just a circle to 01:41:086 - Ouhouhouh !
  38. 01:43:832 (2,3,4,1,2) - haaaaard :< Make this!
    Thanks, done !
  39. 01:47:635 (4) - as 01:40:874 (4) - Same !
  40. 01:48:691 (1) - whatch your symmetry!
    Done !
  41. 01:52:071 (1) - circles on 01:52:072 - and 01:52:494 - Done !
  42. 01:52:705 (2) - start from 01:52:917 - and end on 01:53:762 - Done !
  43. 01:54:396 (3) - you know what to do! Ahah well !
  44. 01:55:240 (1) - start from 01:55:029 - Can't because of ^, but i placed it a tick later then
  45. 01:55:874 (2) - make slider :< I'll let it this way for now, I like how it sounds =/ But if I have another remark about this Ill change it !
  46. 02:01:790 - add a note? Done !
  47. 02:02:635 (1) - make two circles on 02:02:635 - and 02:03:058 - or one slider Done, 2 circles !
  48. 02:03:269 (2) - start from 02:03:480 - and end on 02:04:325 - Done !
  49. 02:09:396 (1) - again, symmetry (like on 00:49:959 (1) - ) 00:49:959 (1) - Done !
  50. 02:11:086 (2) - end on 02:11:508 - Done !
  51. 02:14:889 - add a note with clap? Well I prefer just to add the next one ^^
  52. 02:15:311 - ^ but with finish? D: Done !
  53. 02:15:734 (1) - symmetry (like on 00:56:297 (1) - ) Done !
  54. 02:17:213 (2) - delete this note Done !
  55. 02:17:635 (3) - start from 02:17:846 - and end 02:18:269 - here Done !
  56. 02:22:495 (1) - remove it and add notes on 02:22:494 - and 02:22:917 - Done !
  57. 02:23:551 (2) - start from 02:23:339 - and extend to 02:24:607 - Done !
    Done !
  58. 02:29:466 (2) - remove Done !
  59. 02:30:311 (4) - uh... make this:
    Done !
  60. 02:32:424 (1) - move to 02:32:212 - Done !
  61. 02:32:846 (3,4,5) - gah, make this:
    Done !
  62. 02:37:071 (2) - remove this note Done !
  63. 02:37:494 (4) - move to 02:37:705 - Done !
  64. 02:42:353 (5) - extend to 02:43:198 - Done !
  65. 02:45:945 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I see, these comboes have the same rhythm. It's good, but move all this notes 1/2 later.02:45:945 (1,2,3) - this must start from 02:46:156 - and so on. Even though I prefered the way it sounds on red ticks, I did it cause you're not the first one to tell it to me ^^
  66. 03:02:424 (1,2) - make this:
    Done !
  67. 03:07:283 (2) - remove this note, then move 03:06:227 (1) - to 03:06:438 - and 03:07:494 (2) - to 03:07:705 - Done !
  68. 03:11:297 (1) - remove this note. Done !
  69. 03:11:508 (2) - and maybe remove finishes? Done !
Normal

  1. At first, I think 1,6 slider velocity is too high for Normal D: Reduce it? Changed to 1,50 instead of 1,60
  2. OD +1? Yes !
  3. 00:10:241 (4,5,6) - watch your spacing! >:O and you forgot claps~ Check out all your claps, please Done !
  4. 00:11:931 - again, map this break please Done !
  5. 00:39:818 (4) - reduce to 00:41:086 - and make more symmetrical~
    Done !
  6. 00:41:931 (5) - clap! Done !
  7. 00:42:353 (6) - finish here and new combo Done !
  8. 00:42:987 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - hm... this is quite hard D: Maybe try this?
    Done, thanks !
  9. 00:47:847 (2) - I don't like that it's overlapped by 00:46:579 (1) - . Rearrange? Done !
  10. 00:56:508 (2) - remove it, please. Doing this you make rhythm easier. Done !
  11. 00:58:198 (6) - remove repeat and add note on 00:58:832 - Done !
  12. 00:59:255 - and here note, please Done !
  13. 00:59:466 (1) - then remove it. Done !
  14. 01:02:212 - add a circle! Done !
  15. 01:02:635 - this need a circle too Done !
  16. 01:05:593 - ^ Done !
  17. 01:19:536 - You'd better add here a note and remove 01:19:748 (1) - Done !
  18. 01:23:762 (5) - change this slider by circle on 01:23:762 - Done !
  19. 01:28:832 - note! Done !
  20. 01:29:466 (1) - I don't like whistles here. They are unexpected and don't fit :< Removed ^^
  21. 01:54:396 (1) - remove nc, there is no need to put it Done !
  22. 02:09:607 (2) - whatch your symmetry as earlier Tried to make it look better !
  23. 02:16:156 (3) - maybe remove one repeat and add a circle on 02:17:001? To make it easier
    Well i did not do this but as you adviced me like 00:58:198 (6) ^^
  24. 02:21:649 - circle! Done !
  25. 02:28:410 - ^ Done !
  26. 02:35:170 - ^ Done !
  27. 02:43:198 (5) - change to one circle on 02:43:198 - ? Done !
  28. 03:02:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you know, that's quite hard D: Maybe this:
    Done; thanks for the pattern !
  29. 03:11:508 (2) - remove finishes? Done !
Hard

  1. HP drain -2, please -1 ! :)
  2. 00:11:931 - map this break! Done !
  3. 00:17:635 (2) - me casts symmetry on it!! Ahah XD I'm not even able to say if it worked perfeclty XD
  4. 00:20:381 - what? again, map this. Done !
  5. 00:30:945 (5) - make it neater:
    Done, thanks !
  6. 00:32:001 (6) - (nazi) 1 grid left to line it with 00:30:311 (3) - Done !
  7. 00:40:029 (4) - xD funny followpoints. Make this:
    Ahah thanks !
  8. 00:47:424 (6) - maybe some grids down to avoid touching circles? Done !
  9. 00:50:593 (5) - followpoints :3 (just like it, haha) Well yes, I do have problems with sliders XD
  10. 00:56:720 (3) - looks ugly. Make something like this:
    Done !
  11. 00:58:198 (6) - ^ Done !
  12. 01:02:212 - add a note Done !
  13. 01:19:114 - ^ Done !
  14. 01:20:593 (4) - move it to the middle of x? :O Yes done !
  15. 01:24:184 - note with clap!! Clap-clap! Sounds great :)
  16. 01:24:607 - map it, huh! Done !
  17. 01:53:762 - note? Done !
  18. 02:16:157 (3) - shape~ Done !
  19. 02:17:635 (6) - ^ Done !
  20. 02:21:649 - note? Done !
  21. 02:26:931 (5) - again, move it to the middle Done !
  22. 03:11:508 (2) - remove finishes?
Oh, you really must work on your Easy and Normal. More and more. But your Hard diff is REALLY GOOD!
Good luck!

And thank you bbj0920 for taking a look ! :)
Niko-nyan
Here we go~

Easy
02:57:142 make the space like this http://puu.sh/Erx5

Normal
HP +1 if you want (just suggest)

Hard
o.O CS5 try CS4 :)

thats just suggest :D
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you for your mod ! :)

I fixed the little thing in Easy and I'm still thinking about HP +1 or not in Normal (as I don't want people to see it as a 4 stars ^^)
I like my little circles in Hard so sorry but I'll keep them ;)
Kokatsu
M4M from my queue ;)

[General]
Consider adding Kiaitime on all diffs. Suggestions would be the chorus parts:
00:55:874 - 01:23:762
02:15:311 - 02:43:198
You should also consider adding (at least one) Spinner in each diff to ensure different max-scores. (The End of the map would fit well for a Spinner 03:07:705 - 03:11:931)
Remove "Pony Pony Run Run" from the Tags, as it is the artist, lol (Tags only add new search options and since you already get this map if you search for pony pony run run, you don't need to add this as a tag)

[Easy]
This Diff still needs a lot of work, I will focus mainly on things you should reming yourself of when reworking the diff
Generally, an Easy diff should have a lot of breaks, especially on 1/1 basis (meaning that you leave out 1/2 sometimes to get a short break). Try to leave out notes whereever possible.
Your SV is too high. Reduce to x1.0 max (with that many notes and that "high" SV, it feels more like a Normal)
Also consider reduceing the Distance Spacing (0,7 seems fine at 1.00 SV, but you can also go for 0,6)
Since you should rework all sliders when changeing the SV, I cannot mod sliders in this mod. Please call me back when you reworked the sliders so I can take a look ath them~ I will mention some of them anyways.
01:21:225 (4) - Unsnapped slider (start).
00:19:114 (1) - Okay, some basic stuff about easy diffs: since they are not hard, there are not many notes and there are close to no patterns, all you should check is the lookout, Easydiffs must look good and for this, you should rework sliders like this one to be more symmetrically.
00:28:198 (5) - please avoid starting on a red tick on Easy, red ticks should only be used for Sliderreverses or 1/2 "streams"
00:34:959 (3) - ^ PLUS the reversepart of the slider is closer to the previouse note than the sliderstart, which should be avoided in an Easy diff.
01:38:128 (2) - okay, that's it, I tolerated this kind of sliders b4, but now I'm getting mad :P This kind of slider, without a real "center" in the whirl/curve/idk how to call it is confuseing for new players, they just see a slider with a big middlepart and since there is no real sliderpath that they can follow, because it's lapping with itself, this is unnacceptable. Make sure that - if you rework Sliders - there is always a clearly visible path of the slider to follow.
01:57:142 (3,1) - Overlap, as already mentioned, Easys should look nice (and with nice I mean VERY NICE D:). Avoid all overlaps in Easy-diffs
02:04:748 (1) - okay, getting angry again :< Sliders should be worked out with as less waypoints as possible to guarantee the best shape possible. Maybe you should check out this thread for some slider-basicknowledge~

Sorry that this was no real mod, but the diff just needs a lot of rework <__<

[Normal]
A lot better than the Easy, here I can actually mod something \:D/
This looks more like a normal+/somewhat hard-ish for me ;_;
I would however recommend you to take a closer look at the sliders you used, once you've read the thread I mentioned in Easy-mod and dat SV. q__q
00:30:311 (4) - shouldn't be overlapping with 6
00:39:818 (4) - needs a clearly visible centerpoint
01:29:466 (1,2) - new players are not able to read this. remove 2 and let 1 repeat 2more times.
02:17:635 (5) - remove clap from sliderstart? D:

You should probably rename it to Normal+ to match the actual difficulty..

[Hard]
This map actually is fun to play! :O Didn't expect that x__x
Settings are more Insane-ish than Hard
SV is too high q__q
AR-2
CS-1 and HP/OD -1 or HP -1 and OD -2 (would recommend the second version)

This looks fine :)

Good luck anyways~
Topic Starter
Atema
Thank you for your mod ! :)
Here are the changes I made (I'm still working on the sliders issues you pointed out) :

Kokatsu's mod

Kokatsu wrote:

M4M from my queue ;)

[General]
Consider adding Kiaitime on all diffs. Suggestions would be the chorus parts:
00:55:874 - 01:23:762
02:15:311 - 02:43:198
Thank you for the suggestion ! If more people want a Kiak Time I'll add one, but isn't 30sec x2 a lottle bit long for a Kiai Time ?
You should also consider adding (at least one) Spinner in each diff to ensure different max-scores. (The End of the map would fit well for a Spinner 03:07:705 - 03:11:931)
Well I have to say I like maps without spinners even though i didn't think about this aspect, if I get more reflexions about it I'll add one :)
Remove "Pony Pony Run Run" from the Tags, as it is the artist, lol (Tags only add new search options and since you already get this map if you search for pony pony run run, you don't need to add this as a tag)
"You Need Pony Pony Run Run" is the name of the album, so I guess I have to keep it in the tags, no ?

[Easy]
This Diff still needs a lot of work, I will focus mainly on things you should reming yourself of when reworking the diff
Generally, an Easy diff should have a lot of breaks, especially on 1/1 basis (meaning that you leave out 1/2 sometimes to get a short break). Try to leave out notes whereever possible.
Well I had many breaks at the begenning and people told me to map them, so as I still have a few I won't, because I don't feel like removing notes as I think it fits the map where they are ^^
Your SV is too high. Reduce to x1.0 max (with that many notes and that "high" SV, it feels more like a Normal)
I already reduced it due to the same remarks, I'm afraid it can be boring with a lower SV s for now I'll keep it this way ^^
Also consider reduceing the Distance Spacing (0,7 seems fine at 1.00 SV, but you can also go for 0,6)
Ehh sorry I will look a lot stubborn but I don't think it's too hard this way XD
Since you should rework all sliders when changeing the SV, I cannot mod sliders in this mod. Please call me back when you reworked the sliders so I can take a look ath them~ I will mention some of them anyways.
Well if I finally decide to change it I'll call you for sure ! Thanks !
01:21:225 (4) - Unsnapped slider (start). Done !
00:19:114 (1) - Okay, some basic stuff about easy diffs: since they are not hard, there are not many notes and there are close to no patterns, all you should check is the lookout, Easydiffs must look good and for this, you should rework sliders like this one to be more symmetrically. Tried to ! :D
00:28:198 (5) - please avoid starting on a red tick on Easy, red ticks should only be used for Sliderreverses or 1/2 "streams" Replaced by a circle on the white tick for this one and all the others ^^
00:34:959 (3) - ^ PLUS the reversepart of the slider is closer to the previouse note than the sliderstart, which should be avoided in an Easy diff. Changed as I changed ^ ;)
01:38:128 (2) - okay, that's it, I tolerated this kind of sliders b4, but now I'm getting mad :P This kind of slider, without a real "center" in the whirl/curve/idk how to call it is confuseing for new players, they just see a slider with a big middlepart and since there is no real sliderpath that they can follow, because it's lapping with itself, this is unnacceptable. Make sure that - if you rework Sliders - there is always a clearly visible path of the slider to follow. Ok I understand, I will work on it ! :)
01:57:142 (3,1) - Overlap, as already mentioned, Easys should look nice (and with nice I mean VERY NICE D:). Avoid all overlaps in Easy-diffs Oh yeah I did not see this one, thanks !
02:04:748 (1) - okay, getting angry again :< Sliders should be worked out with as less waypoints as possible to guarantee the best shape possible. Maybe you should check out this thread for some slider-basicknowledge~ Ahah y I know I have probs with sliders and followpoints, but this one doesn't look ugly for me, so are the followpoints really a problem as players won't see them ?

Sorry that this was no real mod, but the diff just needs a lot of rework <__<

[Normal]
A lot better than the Easy, here I can actually mod something \:D/
This looks more like a normal+/somewhat hard-ish for me ;_;
I would however recommend you to take a closer look at the sliders you used, once you've read the thread I mentioned in Easy-mod and dat SV. q__q XD I will look again yes ^^
00:30:311 (4) - shouldn't be overlapping with 6 Changed !
00:39:818 (4) - needs a clearly visible centerpoint Will work on it !
01:29:466 (1,2) - new players are not able to read this. remove 2 and let 1 repeat 2more times. Replaced it by 2 circles instead, I hope it's better now, beacause I don't like sliders with too many reverse on Normal, so I think it's a good in-between change ^^
02:17:635 (5) - remove clap from sliderstart? D: Done !

You should probably rename it to Normal+ to match the actual difficulty..
Well as it has quite easy settings, I guess it's ok ! :)

[Hard]
This map actually is fun to play! :O Didn't expect that x__x
Settings are more Insane-ish than Hard
SV is too high q__q
AR-2
CS-1 and HP/OD -1 or HP -1 and OD -2 (would recommend the second version)
Wel if I reduce the settings it's only have 4 stars, and as it is playable like this (and I prefer it this way too ^^) sorry but I won't change the settings ^^

This looks fine :)

Good luck anyways~
Thanks ! :)
Kokatsu
Small feedback on things you questioned..

Atema wrote:

Thank you for your mod ! :)
Here are the changes I made (I'm still working on the sliders issues you pointed out) :

Kokatsu wrote:

[General]
Consider adding Kiaitime on all diffs. Suggestions would be the chorus parts:
00:55:874 - 01:23:762
02:15:311 - 02:43:198
Thank you for the suggestion ! If more people want a Kiak Time I'll add one, but isn't 30sec x2 a lottle bit long for a Kiai Time ? 30 seconds is not very long and rule is max. 1 trigger per minute. Since the chorus is quiet long, it is ok to go for a quiet long kiaisection
Remove "Pony Pony Run Run" from the Tags, as it is the artist, lol (Tags only add new search options and since you already get this map if you search for pony pony run run, you don't need to add this as a tag)
"You Need Pony Pony Run Run" is the name of the album, so I guess I have to keep it in the tags, no ? It is the albumname, yea, but what does it change for the beatmap? increasing the filesize unnecessarily while adding nothing new, since - as mentioned b4 - you got the tag in the name already

[Easy]
02:04:748 (1) - okay, getting angry again :< Sliders should be worked out with as less waypoints as possible to guarantee the best shape possible. Maybe you should check out this thread for some slider-basicknowledge~ Ahah y I know I have probs with sliders and followpoints, but this one doesn't look ugly for me, so are the followpoints really a problem as players won't see them ? Depending on what slider you use - they might be. Especially on easier diffs sliders should look as nicely as possible and the more waypoints you add, the more unnaturally is the slider. You also can map and mod faster with less waypoints and (nazi) every waypoint is just a little bit of extra data, thus meaning extra space in the file, haven't calculated it, but it might sum up to a bit if you remove lots of waypoints.

[Normal]
You should probably rename it to Normal+ to match the actual difficulty..
Well as it has quite easy settings, I guess it's ok ! :) The setting are Normal-like, but the map and the way it plays is a bit harder, still no hard but no normal anymore (IMO), thus is why I would rename it to Normal+
If you want a recheck: Forum-PM me pls, but it might take some time since I still got some mods in queue.

:)
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