We all know what happened last time Stefan made one of these threads in OT. Let's not have a repeat.

Good luck!

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CONGRATULATIONS TO ACHROMALIA!!
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someone pm me when there's a winner

Let's make it a debate, or maybe just a place to share random ideas and rant a bit! Then no-one will win and we'll be posting in response to each other forever >:3

Topic of the day! I'm not very well informed, but I enjoy these sorts of topics!:

Absurdism (in Accepting the Absurd), though fatalistic in a way, is a fair mindset in dealing with life.

Hmm, I don't entirely understand the concept of absurdism. Does absurdism essentially mean having the mindset that nothing matters and nothing makes sense?

I think that's mostly what's typically meant to be Nihilism.

Absurdism is somethin' I consider more focused around not trying so hard to be averse from death, and meaninglessness. In a sense, the Acceptance of the Absurd is relevant to embracing nothingness, with the thought that searching for meaning is not really going to result in much, and that it's okay to be mindful but still content with death and nothingness.

I'd say I don't care what happens to me in life, primarily because i'm comfortable with things going wrong and me ending up dead. That isn't to say I have a positive motivation to kill myself and leave it at that. I'm alright with giving life its time and goin' with it, just as I am with having death come by and swallow me up.

Essentially, it's putting up an idea with a front on the basis of nihilism, and human nature to veer away from an emptying pointlessness. There's approaches that can be taken, and that's about it.

In a sense, the Acceptance of the Absurd idea just puts pointlessness in a positive light and negotiates a compromise for life and death, and existence in general.

Hmm, that's an interesting one. While I am very empathetic towards this concept, I don't really agree with believing in it. I had this mindset when I was in the periods of my life leading up to my extreme depression.

I agree that the search for meaning is pretty much meaningless, but if that search can help give people hope or give them something to strive for, then it can be used for greatness.

It's similar with religion. I am not religious at all, but I think that religion can be a great thing for people. (I'm not talking about the churches. Those are corrupt af) Religion is something that helps people through life. It gives them a path to follow and keeps them going. It's something that can help relieve their burdens. A community that they can go to when they need it.

If you don't care what happens to yourself in life, how are you ever going to bring yourself to a point where you live a
happy life?

This is where I spam my Japanese girls right?

mmh.

i'd say i can agree with religion in giving others hope, thus i dont push my feelings on others unless they themselves find religion as lackluster in giving them a reason to hope.

it may or may not relieve burdens, but it still can, so yeah, i guess.

as for living happily... well, happiness isn't my ultimate focus, that's something i think will come along the way. contention with what life becomes as i live and create.

i would like to focus on creating all i can, providing insight or perhaps some form of solace to others through music and art.

among other things, i just love to create, even if it'll be something i can no longer witness the impact of, i enjoy the thought of it helping others.

I'm moreso in the mindset that people have to create their own happiness, rather than it finding them. Happiness requires proactivity imo

Being content with life is one way of creating happiness, I guess. Happiness is subjective.

Hmm. It's not as much as simply hoping happiness comes by, exactly. It's just not something I'm whole-heartedly seeking.

It's a bit weird, but...

The way I see happiness is that it can both come to you passively just as well as you can create it or seek for it actively. It doesn't have to be one or the other.



Anyhow, yeah, I argue that Absurdism is acceptable to adopt, if you can handle the notion of all things coming to nothing, and that anything you do is ultimately pointless, and get through all that in relation to following existential crises.

How ironic. Absurdism is absurd to adopt, in that sort of way. nearly suicidal, to be confronting the concept of not needing to live and such, but for another approach to life, to handle misfortune as it comes.

i guess the way i put it, is Absurdism in a more positive light.

I still find it to be pretty alright in getting me through life so far.

It's going through hell now to be prepared for getting through hell later, just to return to hell once more in one's death.

Youtube autoplay doesn't work anymore?

yep

meah no pls

spam thread back at it again POG

husa pls

qwq?

how's your day going?

nothing

hmm sounds like fun

bring back youtube autoplay

my umatrix is armed and ready

11Cvijuh

oh well. will have to come up with another topic to debate, that one was more of personal belief than objectivity, i think.

ehm… maybe you can start? you'll probably challenge me a whole lot more so agh

mmk, what's your standpoint on using illicit psychedelic drugs as a form of therapy? Or using them on a personal level to achieve "Ego Death," to have a new perspective on life, and "grow" as an individual?

morning, sleep time

me no good in debates

think of them as discussions, rather than debates.

sorry, i'm back.

hmm. i guess discussions are a lot better, lets go for that then...

Penguin wrote:

mmk, what's your standpoint on using illicit psychedelic drugs as a form of therapy? Or using them on a personal level to achieve "Ego Death," to have a new perspective on life, and "grow" as an individual?

As for psychedelic therapy, i'm kinda neutral with it. I don't see it as being incredibly harmful quite yet, though i guess I never had much experience with it, so eh, there's that. Whether or not I would do that, well, I dunno. I might consider it further, just to make sure what it is, and what it does. By the looks of it, if it's well-controlled and all, it's fine. I would probably prefer if they remain on the therapeutic side.

I just hope it doesn't bring on an incentive to do drug deals, and stuff like that. I wonder if that'd be related.

As for a recreational and personal usage in trying to achieve Ego Death, ehm... I dunno. I don't really know enough to give strong thoughts on it other than personally preferring not to seek Ego Death. I'm content with my former existential crisis, and new experiences might not really help me a whole lot. My mind's set on living through it and just creating what I can.

I suppose it would be alright? It seems these experiences can ultimately leave people off with feeling much better in the end about things.

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Achromalia wrote:

sorry, i'm back.
I just hope it doesn't bring on an incentive to do drug deals, and stuff like that. I wonder if that'd be related.

I think that there's always going to be an incentive to have a black market for this stuff. If the psychoactive drugs are handled like prescriptions, then it's going to be exactly like the state of Adderal / Xanax, etc etc. People are going to falsely get prescriptions for it, then just sell it off later. I think having therapy sessions in a controlled environment with doctors and such would be the best way to handle it. Then people wouldn't be able to abuse their prescriptions as well.

Achromalia wrote:

I suppose it would be alright? It seems these experiences can ultimately leave people off with feeling much better in the end about things.

I think for most people, it is very beneficial if they're using it for the right reasons. I've heard of one case personally where the psychedelics ended up changing the person for the worse, almost like they were traumatized by it. But that is most likely due to the fact that they were not safe with it. It's best to take psychedelics when you are in a good state of mind and have been for weeks, as well as being in a safe and pleasant environment.

Penguin wrote:

I think having therapy sessions in a controlled environment with doctors and such would be the best way to handle it.

Yeah, I'd probably say the same.

Penguin wrote:

. I've heard of one case personally where the psychedelics ended up changing the person for the worse, almost like they were traumatized by it. But that is most likely due to the fact that they were not safe with it.

hmm? traumatized how?

i'm guessing something along the lines of it being overwhelming.

in that case, yeah, i can see that.

hmm, well, moderation would be good precaution, though.

a safe environment would be recommended, yeah.

i don't really have many thoughts on it all, so that's about it.

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Hmm, here's a new topic.

I think there's people that feel and may very well be better off alone, free to be by themselves, to be reclusive, only talking to others online when they wish to. I wonder if it's unhealthy to do that, or if there really is an innate need to talk to people in real life.

Humans are social creatures, so I think that some form of social interactions is necessary for a healthy lifestyle. But I'd agree with you, that some people are just better of living most of their lives in solitude if they desire to do so. The thing is, solitude and loneliness are very different from each other.

Achromalia wrote:

hmm? traumatized how?

I guess it'd be traumatized in the similar vein as PTSD. They just have an experience that changes them emotionally, which affects their entire life.

tbh dont do convo in here. its too much spam

not if everyone does cnvo

wait so a post needs to be the most recent reply for 24 hours to win? i think thread necromancy has only made it to like 4 or 5 hours max.

yeah, the last 24hr thread took a month. People just kinda lose interest, but since Thread Necromancy is an ongoing competition with points and whatnot, it's a lot more popular.

I'm hoping that the osu!supporter prize will keep people interested in this game.

flashlight?

cool

i read that convo in ITT, damn.

ye, that was a fun one

boredom.

same

home from work. time to find things to do t keep me from boredom

do nothing like me ;;

this again