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IOSYS - Utage wa Eien ni

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DJPop
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 11 กรกฎาคม 2552 at 22:00:46

Artist: IOSYS
Title: Utage wa Eien ni
Source: Touhou Suisui Suusuu
Tags: utage wa eien ni iosys touhou suisui suusuu
BPM: 170
Filesize: 17684kb
Play Time: 03:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.24 stars, 240 notes)
  2. Hard (4.74 stars, 436 notes)
  3. Normal (4.23 stars, 392 notes)
Download: IOSYS - Utage wa Eien ni
Download: IOSYS - Utage wa Eien ni (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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12th beatmap. ~APPROVAL VERSION~

My 3rd IOSYS beatmap. This version is submitted for RANKED.


EDIT 18: 11 Jul 2009
-Fixed offset & video offset.

EDIT 17: 05 Jul 2009
- Reduced MP3 file size.
EDIT 16: 26 Jun 2009
- Fixed notes.
- Decreased volume.
Real1
That is more than hard... That's Insane. <_< And 26mil+ total score? It could go into approved, but I'm not so sure about ranking.

Easy and Normal were ok.
EVA-X
hard is fit for tag play! GJ! XD
darrihuka
this IOSYS is awesome and fun to play as always
:)

if this one is going for ranked
i would give some suggestions here{

00:12:666 - (11,,45) this is going to have to be changed imo. it's 1.6x faster than in my lazy bee... maybe make the notes a bit closer or put them in a more regular shape will be fine to play;

00:41:342 - (11,,19) personally i feel the music's slowed down here and is speeding up right after this combo so i would suggest to put this stream in a closer way (here's my example image><);

01:51:928 - (11,,19) i would also suggest to change this somehow, same to above or something else;

03:19:456 - (11,,20) this one make me feel a bit uncomfortable while playing...(looks similiar to those in Cheer~? personally i don't like it. maybe i just suck XD);
}


and i also suggest some note be set to NEW COMBO here{
00:21:666 - (14) 00:23:783 - (10)
00:27:313 - (14) 00:29:430 - (10)
00:33:157 - (14) 00:35:077 - (10)
00:38:607 - (14);

01:32:253 - (14) 01:34:370 - (10)
01:37:900 - (14) 01:40:017 - (10)
01:43:546 - (7) 01:45:664 - (10)
01:49:193 - (14);

02:59:781 - (14) 03:01:898 - (10)
03:05:428 - (14) 03:07:545 - (10)
03:11:074 - (8) 03:13:192 - (10)
03:16:721 - (14);

03:20:603 - (21);
}

//btw look at these note numbers... >:(
//(11)(14)(10).. that's why i would call your maps WORKS OF ART
//it's absolutely well designed and arranged! other mappers can't reach this level :)

that's all :) nothing else
oh wait
i also suggest change the clock (the spinner) into a reverse colored one~
i can't see my cursor under this way ><!

if this one is ranked it's gonna be my 3rd favourite IOSYS :)
1st - MARISA! 2nd - KANBU!!

Dakeyrus

darrihuka wrote:

this IOSYS is awesome and fun to play as always
:)

if this one is going for ranked
i would give some suggestions here{

00:12:666 - (11,,45) this is going to have to be changed imo. it's 1.6x faster than in my lazy bee... maybe make the notes a bit closer or put them in a more regular shape will be fine to play;
Gonna have to agree with that, it's a bit insane, even for a DJPop map, but don't let me hold the final verdict. I passed it, I can give you that much :P

Starred, bubble once we sort out if that part is too brutal.
Topic Starter
DJPop
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
FurukawaPan
I like this map a lot. [Hard] is really mean though. :twisted:

It might be best to rename [Hard] to [Insane] and [Normal] to [Hard].
If you are going for ranked, you might have to redo the last part of your insane, because it's mostly stacked dots, which stack up the points needlessly, and give players with really high endurance an unfair advantage on this map. It's similar to U.N Owen in the sense that it really hurts your hand by forcing you to repeatedly rapid-click through stacks and stacks. >:(

Also, I would've liked to see more interesting, yet challenging patterns at the latter part of it, the first 2/3rds of your [Hard] are really well done, and if you took it easy on the deathstreams it would probably be rankable, but the last bit is just repeated stacks. (This is fine though for the beer chugging section though, since it fits well ;) )

You completely nailed it on Normal/Easy so if you're done with this map, and on hard I really like the streams where the volume increases steadily, this is a nice effect.
Topic Starter
DJPop
Utage wa Eien ni ~Unrankable Version~


My first map when first submitted this song. Created on 26/12/2008.
This map is really too insane to play so I had to remapped another with lower difficult and removed this map out.


Last Updated: 16/02/2009.

Download: IOSYS - Utage wa Eien ni (DJPop) [Unrankable].osu
Topic Starter
DJPop

DJPop wrote:

darrihuka wrote:

00:41:342 - (11,,19) personally i feel the music's slowed down here and is speeding up right after this combo so i would suggest to put this stream in a closer way (here's my example image><);
Fixed, but used my own notes styles.

01:51:928 - (11,,19) i would also suggest to change this somehow, same to above or something else;
Fixed, use same with above
I'd just checked them again and found that the old patterns were possible to play.
Don't think they're zig-zags, but think they're straight streams. Because they're TRICK notes. :P
Like the image below... Tell me if you agree or not.

darrihuka

DJPop wrote:

DJPop wrote:

darrihuka wrote:

00:41:342 - (11,,19) personally i feel the music's slowed down here and is speeding up right after this combo so i would suggest to put this stream in a closer way (here's my example image><);
Fixed, but used my own notes styles.

01:51:928 - (11,,19) i would also suggest to change this somehow, same to above or something else;
Fixed, use same with above
I'd just checked them again and found that the old patterns were possible to play.
Don't think they're zig-zags, but think they're straight streams. Because they're TRICK notes. :P
Like the image below... Tell me if you agree or not.
LOL i was just giving my personal suggestions here for reference
yeah it's possible to keep combo with it but it's too hard
if you move straight on it the area you can click is very small and hard to catch (even harder than 2+smaller circles go in straight i think..)
the fixed pattern feels better =]
Dakeyrus
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Gabi
fun to play but hard as hell ^^

really nice job.
Real1

Dakeyrus wrote:

darrihuka wrote:

Edit - Looks much, much better in Hard mode now, and the other two check out for spacing and whatnot. I see no reason this can't be ranked. Bubbled.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 27mil is a lot more than 10mil which is the max score a song can have unless peppy personally approved it for ranking. Has peppy approved it? If he has then, go rank.
Ekaru
Only one little thing I found on Normal:

01:33:31 (2) - This note is completely covered by the slider. I was like, "Okay, here's an approach circle, where is the actual hit cir- (X) Oh." Then it's a nice sized jump from 2 to 3. Move this circle to the end of the slider like the other ones, please. That way it won't be covered, and there will be no jump.

Then again, you probably intended for it to be at the end of the slider, but misplaced it. Eh, oh well.

EDIT: Other than that, good job... like your other maps.
Dakeyrus

Real1 wrote:

Dakeyrus wrote:

darrihuka wrote:

Edit - Looks much, much better in Hard mode now, and the other two check out for spacing and whatnot. I see no reason this can't be ranked. Bubbled.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 27mil is a lot more than 10mil which is the max score a song can have unless peppy personally approved it for ranking. Has peppy approved it? If he has then, go rank.

You're spot on, which is why I've been bugging peppy to rank it :P
Ekaru
OH for the love of-

There are partly-offscreen beats in Hard. Which, according to what peppy said a while ago, is...

...unrankable. Sad to say. I think this is because there's less are to hit. Sliders are a case-by-case, though.

So uh, fix that please. Referring to beats like

01:24:48 (1)

BTW. So you can either fix it, or see what peppy says about that. XP
Dakeyrus

Ekaru wrote:

OH for the love of-

There are partly-offscreen beats in Hard. Which, according to what peppy said a while ago, is...

...unrankable. Sad to say. I think this is because there's less are to hit. Sliders are a case-by-case, though.

So uh, fix that please. Referring to beats like

01:24:48 (1)

BTW. So you can either fix it, or see what peppy says about that. XP

Partly offscreen? That sounds more like it's a problem you specifically are having tbh, neither Cyclone nor myself caught any offscreen beats o.O
Ekaru
Look at the 1 near the bottom in this SS. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, this situation has happened before, and yes, it ended up with that person having to change it, sad to say.

EDIT: And there's still that one beat in Normal.

EDIT2: Specific beats would be, other than that one,

01:33:13 (2) -
01:37:19 (9) -
02:37:54 (24,25,26) -
03:01:72 (9) -
03:13:19 (10) -

That's all. Not that many, at least?

Topic Starter
DJPop
I'm going to go to Chiangmai this afternoon, please help me check the mistakes of the maps.
I'll come back in Dec 31 around midnight or maybe Jan 1st morning (GMT +7)




Ekaru wrote:

So uh, fix that please. Referring to beats like

01:24:48 (1)

Ekaru wrote:

Specific beats would be, other than that one,

01:33:13 (2) -
01:37:19 (9) -
02:37:54 (24,25,26) -
03:01:72 (9) -
03:13:19 (10) -
Fixed.

Ekaru wrote:

01:33:31 (2) - This note is completely covered by the slider. I was like, "Okay, here's an approach circle, where is the actual hit cir- (X) Oh." Then it's a nice sized jump from 2 to 3. Move this circle to the end of the slider like the other ones, please. That way it won't be covered, and there will be no jump.
I think it's not too much problem because you can see an approach circle of it and they're same like this in the whole song.
If you want me to change them, wait until I come back from travel.

Ekaru wrote:

Then again, you probably intended for it to be at the end of the slider, but misplaced it. Eh, oh well.
Sorry for the mistake :oops:
Dakeyrus
All things considered, and the minor changes made, I'll leave the bubble up for you. I'm gonna try to get peppy to take a look and hopefully get some ranking going on here. Cheers bud, enjoy your trip
darrihuka

Dakeyrus wrote:

No offense at Darrihuka, but I think I like DJPop's zig-zag pattern a bit more :P. It's easy enough to FC once you get used to it.

Edit - Looks much, much better in Hard mode now, and the other two check out for spacing and whatnot. I see no reason this can't be ranked. Bubbled.
XD I like DJPop's design, too!
it's no doubt that DJPop is much better at expressing the music with patterns than me ;)
i said that i think DJPop is the #1 MAPPER!
me and sousei both do LOL
m980
Ahem..

Spinner Circle isn't Centred.. Centre it.
Zerostarry
Holy shit this beatmap is fun.
Topic Starter
DJPop
My PC is broken, why did new year start with the bad thing :cry: :cry: :cry:



Ekaru wrote:

01:33:31 (2) - This note is completely covered by the slider. I was like, "Okay, here's an approach circle, where is the actual hit cir- (X) Oh." Then it's a nice sized jump from 2 to 3. Move this circle to the end of the slider like the other ones, please. That way it won't be covered, and there will be no jump.
Fixed.

m980 wrote:

Ahem..

Spinner Circle isn't Centred.. Centre it.
It will cause the clock too small :?

darrihuka wrote:

it's no doubt that DJPop is much better at expressing the music with patterns than me ;)
i said that i think DJPop is the #1 MAPPER!
me and sousei both do LOL
No way I can be the #1 if I always have many mistakes like this :cry:
-SiN-
better than previous Utage xD i like this
RemmyX25
Timing/ General Notes:
lol @ spinner

but im not gonna lie, it being off center bothers me some.

Timings fine by me i think

good use of tags!

Easy:
No problems here.

Normal:

Zerostarry wrote:

Holy shit this beatmap is fun.
Hard:
I'm looking forward to modding this.

Yea, the 26mil does raise a bit of concern, ranking wise.
00:16:60 (45) - holy shit. Longest legit stream I've seen.

I... I can't comment on this. It's a DJPop [Hard] map.

That is all.

~Remington Seal of Approval~
Topic Starter
DJPop
Need help!! I can't fix the hands centered :cry:
However I fixed, they usually went off orz



lol, I feel sick with it.
They're fixed !!!
Now ready to be ranked.
Cyclone
Maps worth this much can't be ranked.
Topic Starter
DJPop
It's OK to move this song into "Approved".
Zodiark1020
I really love this map...i hope it's going to get ranked early...it's really hard but i fell much fun when i tried it ^^
Rinoa Angelo
I totally love this beatmap
Topic Starter
DJPop
Can someone tell Peppy to allow this song for ranked?

I guess he won't... =_="

Fine, take this song approved
m980
I'd bubble this for Approval, but Peppy hasn't looked at it.

I think he said something along the lines of..
"Don't put maps in the approved category unless I had a look at it"

So..

In that case.. have a Star. If Peppy looks through it, and gives it the okay, you can treat this like a bubble.
mtmcl
Why are so many of the notes on [Easy] placed on the red lines? It's awkward and not intuitive (at least not to me)

Also, as the person designated by peppy to choose whether this map can be approved or not, I give [Hard] my approval approval. So it may be approved~

However, I will not bubble until I hear another mod's opinion on the notes in [Easy]

Download: Ayane - Endless Tears... (lkp) [Samuel's Tear!!!].osu
Topic Starter
DJPop
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
mtmcl
To fix [Easy]

Move 00:20:078 - 00:40:548 (2-7,1-7,1-7,1-7) a half beat later on the timeline.

Do the same with 01:30:666 - 01:51:137 (2-7,1-7,1-9,1-7)

And 02:58:195 - 03:18:666 (2-7,1-7,1-9,1-7)

Move 2:03:137 (5-8) a half beat later as well.

Listen with those adjustments and tell me if you think it sounds better.
Topic Starter
DJPop
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Pasonia
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darrihuka
Please approve this
Rolled
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Topic Starter
DJPop
OK, they're fixed.
Rolled
Well done with the changes.

Bubbled.
LuigiHann
Custom skin is very cute.

Is it me, or is the video out of sync by a few moments?
Topic Starter
DJPop

LuigiHann wrote:

Custom skin is very cute.

Is it me, or is the video out of sync by a few moments?
The video was very out of synced before, and present file is the result after I tried to fix it.

It's the best I can, I couldn't make it exactly synced to the music. :(

btw, highscore-worth is voided for this map. (Confirm by Rolled)
Larto
@ LH: To me the video is perfectly fine. :O

Btw, I'd RANK/APPROVE this if I knew to which one this monster is going. Expect a rank/approval as soon as I do know.
machol30
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Topic Starter
DJPop
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machol30

DJPop wrote:

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Insane:
Why'd you change 02:32:25 - 02:57:49? :(
If I leave them, this map wouldn't have a chance to be ranked :(
Yes, maybe, but it can still be included for approving (not ranking).

DJPop wrote:

- Added Unrankable Version, see first posted.
If you decide for approval of this map (not ranked) or wish not change back that section of Insane, feel free to add it to the mapset so it can be approved.


Easy:
Good.

Normal:
00:40:73 (8) - End 1/2 later.
01:51:32 (8) - End 1/2 later.
03:18:85 (8) - End 1/2 later.

Hard:
Good.

Insane:
Good, but I still want that section back. >:(

Unrankable:
Good, but I liked Insane overall more.
And could you increase stack leniency a bit more, please? Thank you.
Topic Starter
DJPop

buraimaster1234 wrote:

DJPop wrote:

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Insane:
Why'd you change 02:32:25 - 02:57:49? :(
If I leave them, this map wouldn't have a chance to be ranked :(
Yes, maybe, but it can still be included for approving (not ranking).
I want this song to be ranked. But if it seriously can't, I'll take it approve.
And with present maps can have a chance.


buraimaster1234 wrote:

DJPop wrote:

- Added Unrankable Version, see first posted.
If you decide for approval of this map (not ranked) or wish not change back that section of Insane, feel free to add it to the mapset so it can be approved.
Mapset ??? :?:


buraimaster1234 wrote:

Normal:
00:40:73 (8) - End 1/2 later.
01:51:32 (8) - End 1/2 later.
03:18:85 (8) - End 1/2 later.
They're fine. 1/2 late is not sync.


buraimaster1234 wrote:

Insane:
Good, but I still want that section back. >:(
Me too :( but whatever...


buraimaster1234 wrote:

Unrankable:
Good, but I liked Insane overall more.
And could you increase stack leniency a bit more, please? Thank you.
Oh, I forgot to change stack leniency back to 0.2, I'll fix it next update.
FurukawaPan
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