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i think a lot of girls would prefer me to you even though I'm somewhat overweight just because you have tits and you look like you tan to the point of wannabe guido. also you seem like a major douche.NeverDie wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.YellowerYoshi wrote:
Attractiveness is subjective. Clearly you didn't see my post about my own attractions, because in my eye a little fat is definitely attractive. I don't know where you got the idea that attraction is one global idea. You are only stating what is or isn't attractive to you. Everyone has a different idea of what they like, lumping everything together molded into your opinion is a little ignorant.
Everyone has their own distinct opinion on what an appealing person is. An appealing person for me is someone who doesn't try to dazzle others with heavy gloss lipstick and 2 inch high heels, but someone who likes to stay simple and doesn't stray away from his/her own self.
Ideal girl?
Quiet, simple, cute, doesn't have big breasts,smart and has glasses.
What a goddamn asshole, seriously. How old are you again?NeverDie wrote:
I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
Why do you assume people are even settling for less? To you maybe, but to the beholder definitely not. I have a girl that I like, and I can honestly say I wouldn't trade her for anybody else. seriously. Is she a little overweight? Sure. Do I give a fuck? No. Maybe just a gender difference, but I put character traits first and looks and appearances last. Someone can be a supermodel but if you have a assholey attitude about life I really don't care, but if she has subpar looks but is sweet, caring, and cute, than she will always be miles ahead.
My ideal girl
shy, caring, cute, smart, sweet <3
It is true, in fact, that everybody has their own taste for what they think a "good or bad looking person is", what it is slightly different is the common taste from a % people, let's call it statistics. Since, we can't make an statistics for obviously reason, we can just "cheer him up" by telling our own taste or giving him some "tips". This is my own opinion, when socializing he should really take in consideration that almost all the people think about you like this: 1) First impression 2) Appearance 3) Personality 4) Other shits. <-- This order can vary.failboat wrote:
So basically, tell me your opinion of what an appealing or "not bad looking" person is, and you most likely by now understand what I'm on about. I just want him to know that he should stop being so immature and listen to what people have to say. Most people dislike their own looks in one way or another, but what might be unappealing to you can just as well be very much appealing to someone else.
About your friend getting depressed because of his appearance, there is nothing we can do than just "cheer him up", he should take in consideration opinions and tips from people who care about him and professionals!. He is the only one who should face the reality, there is no magical world where all the people likes him, just different people having their own taste. It is okey to care a bit about appeareance, so, tell him not to get deppresed, it obviously won't help him. Damn, people should be more confident >__<.
Baaaaaai baaaaaaaaai!
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Everyone is ugly and deluded.
I'm ugly. I make myself think that I am average looking through observational comparison and self serving compromise.
"Beautiful" people are ugly. People have instinctive influence in their preference for other people's appearance such as fitness and strength, however most of this has been overcome with media advertising and peer pressure basically telling us what we should think is attractive and placing those people on a higher social status than others. It can be easily presumed that this is where your friend's self loathing originates from.
You all know this, you knew what I was going to say as you were reading it, but we seem to have trouble retaining the idea outside of discussion.
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5/5foulcoon wrote:
i think a lot of girls would prefer me to you even though I'm somewhat overweight just because you have tits and you look like you tan to the point of wannabe guido. also you seem like a major douche.
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
In my opinion, I'd go out with any girl who has good character. I would be lying if I say I do not care how the girl I'm going out with looks, I mean there gotta be some limitations, I might sound selfish here, but that's just my personal opinion. But basically, I think character and the ability to click together is the most important thing in a relationship, it doesn't matter how one looks, as long as you are happy and can have a stable relationship with one another, I'd say that is a pretty good relationship you are in.
I believe that the world is very fair, there is nothing perfect. So everybody wins some and lose some. It's all about the ability to click with your soul mate and have a stable and calm relationship that eventually gets you to the Good Ending in relationships.
(Although, I have to say, I am still clearly a lolicon otaku gamer and I love short cute flat girls from anime/manga that are extremely shy and not tsundere, also I have never dated anyone so I guess I'm just using whatever of my knowledge to give my own opinion. Also, sorry if I offended anyone, this is just my personal opinion, it just stands as an opinion, nothing else)
In my opinion, I'd go out with any girl who has good character. I would be lying if I say I do not care how the girl I'm going out with looks, I mean there gotta be some limitations, I might sound selfish here, but that's just my personal opinion. But basically, I think character and the ability to click together is the most important thing in a relationship, it doesn't matter how one looks, as long as you are happy and can have a stable relationship with one another, I'd say that is a pretty good relationship you are in.
I believe that the world is very fair, there is nothing perfect. So everybody wins some and lose some. It's all about the ability to click with your soul mate and have a stable and calm relationship that eventually gets you to the Good Ending in relationships.
(Although, I have to say, I am still clearly a lolicon otaku gamer and I love short cute flat girls from anime/manga that are extremely shy and not tsundere, also I have never dated anyone so I guess I'm just using whatever of my knowledge to give my own opinion. Also, sorry if I offended anyone, this is just my personal opinion, it just stands as an opinion, nothing else)
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Asked for in the OP.hoihoisoi wrote:
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
Not implying that there is anything wrong with what you wrote, just posting to let you and the rest know that it is on topic.
I didn't see that. Sorry, I'm blur very often......failboat wrote:
Asked for in the OP.hoihoisoi wrote:
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
Not implying that there is anything wrong with what you wrote, just posting to let you and the rest know that it is on topic.
Also just asking, what is OP....? I still kinda get confused with short forms used on this forums.
Topic Starter
Short for "Original Poster", basically the first post in the thread, the topic.
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Affection towards ones personality is far greater then it is for ones appearance. I mean, all of your friends most likely aren't pretty, right? Yet you still have them as friends. If someone is nice and caring towards you, then it is very much easy to fall in love no matter how they look.
I am glad for how well this thread started off, and i very much appreciate all of your effort and thought. Big thanks to all of you.
Except for you NeverDie, you're a faget.
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Affection towards ones personality is far greater then it is for ones appearance. I mean, all of your friends most likely aren't pretty, right? Yet you still have them as friends. If someone is nice and caring towards you, then it is very much easy to fall in love no matter how they look.
I am glad for how well this thread started off, and i very much appreciate all of your effort and thought. Big thanks to all of you.
Except for you NeverDie, you're a faget.
I see, thanks. In another forum they used TS that stood for 'Thread Starter'.failboat wrote:
Short for "Original Poster", basically the first post in the thread, the topic.
In any case, hope your words of encouragement can help your fried to boost his self confidence up. All the best.
Appearance is certainly a very compelling factor in choosing a partner, but we have developed as a species. Unless one always goes for insipid, brain-dead floozies (NeverDie strikes me as the type, but I'm not one to say for sure), people won't prioritise appearance over personality. If neither detracts from the other, then there is no problem.
My personal preference for either gender would be "everything in moderation." I love a lean and toned figure, as long as it's not overly skinny or overly chiselled. Even if somebody's a little bit overweight, that wouldn't bother me. To use names of body types, somewhere around a swimmer/athletic build is the hottest.
I'm not too bothered about hair colour, but oddly enough, blonde's probably my least favourite; especially with pubic hair. Something about it just looks gross to me. Redheads/gingers are hit and miss with me, but if the person doesn't look incredibly pikey/frail, then they usually make me go all lusty. Generally, I'm not picky about hair, as long as it doesn't look too untidy and/or ridiculous.
To be honest, anything that reminds me of Jarby is fine by me. :3
My personal preference for either gender would be "everything in moderation." I love a lean and toned figure, as long as it's not overly skinny or overly chiselled. Even if somebody's a little bit overweight, that wouldn't bother me. To use names of body types, somewhere around a swimmer/athletic build is the hottest.
I'm not too bothered about hair colour, but oddly enough, blonde's probably my least favourite; especially with pubic hair. Something about it just looks gross to me. Redheads/gingers are hit and miss with me, but if the person doesn't look incredibly pikey/frail, then they usually make me go all lusty. Generally, I'm not picky about hair, as long as it doesn't look too untidy and/or ridiculous.
To be honest, anything that reminds me of Jarby is fine by me. :3
You know, I can't put my finger on points of attraction so easily. I can't say I have strong preferences regarding things like hair length or eye colour like some people. To me, someone that exudes health and confidence is most attractive and I suppose I have a rather broad idea about that. It might be a tad presumptuous of me as a virgin, but I find it a little strange when people have very specific sexual interests extending to such superficial appearances outside of outright fetishes. Oh well.
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
However; looks may not matter as much, but it seems as if this is affecting his personality as well.
<which is also a major factors in relationships? You really need to let him know that whether it'd be indirectly or directly.
<which is also a major factors in relationships? You really need to let him know that whether it'd be indirectly or directly.
Sadly, the truth always does that. So much denial ITT.Cuddlebun wrote:
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
You can have an ideal without caring much for it in regards to actually obtaining it or appreciating it in comparison to the alternative. I still don't see the impact other than how hard your dick's going to get for this person.NeverDie wrote:
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
logic is not "how i think", just fyi.
it's a human ability to ignore the hormonal instincts that our nature gives us - humans are contradictory creatures through and through, if you can't accept that, then maybe you're not able to be called human.
it's a human ability to ignore the hormonal instincts that our nature gives us - humans are contradictory creatures through and through, if you can't accept that, then maybe you're not able to be called human.
I don't think anyone is trying to argue that looks don't matter here. The point is that thin, tan, handsome, and fit isn't the only damn look that can be considered attractive, which you seem to have drilled into your head.
'Mattering' isn't an on/off switch, of course everyone has an 'ideal look', that's how people work, but whether they can ignore that for something like personality varies. Maybe you should value that sort of thing rather than taking everything so literally.NeverDie wrote:
Sadly, the truth always does that. So much denial ITT.Cuddlebun wrote:
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
And that's just called having low standards when you don't care. Don't know about everyone but I'd be depressed having sex with someone everyday that's 50-100+ pounds overweight. That's very taxing on the body and takes a firm understanding of physics and geometry to pull off. Wouldn't want to deal that for the rest of my lifeJarby wrote:
You can have an ideal without caring much for it in regards to actually obtaining it or appreciating it in comparison to the alternative. I still don't see the impact other than how hard your dick's going to get for this person.NeverDie wrote:
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
.SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
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Looks matter for sexual affection, emotional affection can easily only be due to ones personality.
All in all depends on who you are as a person and what you seek from others.
All in all depends on who you are as a person and what you seek from others.
lol whatNeverDie wrote:
That's very taxing on the body and takes a firm understanding of physics and geometry to pull off. Wouldn't want to deal that for the rest of my life
so you cant bang fat chicks because your dick is too small
nailed it.
i think its almost lock time
If you're going to bring physics into this:
Science (physics specifically) actually states that people with a greater mass (heavier people, usually fat, but height also helps) are more attractive. I don't remember the formula for it, and a change in weight is a relatively modest change in how attractive you are, but it's a fact, which is infinitely more valuable than anyone's opinion on the subject.
Science (physics specifically) actually states that people with a greater mass (heavier people, usually fat, but height also helps) are more attractive. I don't remember the formula for it, and a change in weight is a relatively modest change in how attractive you are, but it's a fact, which is infinitely more valuable than anyone's opinion on the subject.
It depends
A nice manly figure with thick, hairy arms and a nice, developed chest due to a lot of manual labor in his life... His face would have to be masculine as fuck with a goatee/baerd or shaven but still prickly. Basically an everyday's man.
(in reality, tell your friend to stop being a pussy (which would probably be hard on you but you should still do it(lol nesting parenthesis)))
A nice manly figure with thick, hairy arms and a nice, developed chest due to a lot of manual labor in his life... His face would have to be masculine as fuck with a goatee/baerd or shaven but still prickly. Basically an everyday's man.
(in reality, tell your friend to stop being a pussy (which would probably be hard on you but you should still do it(lol nesting parenthesis)))
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
Following wisdom up with an opinion kind of diminishes the impact of the point the wisdom was trying to make. But I'm getting two messages here, both of which are important.
1. Species need to reproduce. Keep your genes in the pool, so your particular flavour of that species keeps going.
2. Enjoy your time here. (Doesn't matter how, just enjoy it. People without a life partner can be just as happy as those with one.)
THIS ENTIRE POST IS OFF TOPIC
1. Species need to reproduce. Keep your genes in the pool, so your particular flavour of that species keeps going.
2. Enjoy your time here. (Doesn't matter how, just enjoy it. People without a life partner can be just as happy as those with one.)
THIS ENTIRE POST IS OFF TOPIC
Talk about glorifying sex.NeverDie wrote:
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
this stellar example of nihilism would be awe-inspiring and respect-inducing if it weren't you saying it.NeverDie wrote:
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
Almost, but not yet...hold your fire...foulcoon wrote:
i think its almost lock time
That's certainly not true. I prefer 25 pounds overweight (as long as it's still somehow proportional) over muscles. And no, it's not setteling for less, I just dislike muscles.NeverDie wrote:
YellowerYoshi wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
And as for myself as a girl, I would rather have 20 pounds overweight than 20 pounds underweight because looking like a goddamn stick isn't what i consider appealing.
That's so unthoughtful.. Most of the people with overweight aren't happy with how they look but a whole bunch of them can't do anything about it, whether it is because of some illness or whatever. And seriously, looks don't matter that much, it's more like a bonus. It's pretty sad when you rather want to be with someone who has an asshole-personality but good looks than somebody who isn't what you consider pretty but really nice, funny and lovely.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
It's not sad, it's biology.Ente wrote:
It's pretty sad when you rather want to be with someone who has an asshole-personality but good looks than somebody who isn't what you consider pretty but really nice, funny and lovely.
People tend to go for someone relatively their level of "status". Status refers to a wide array of things including financial wealth, physical appearance, personality, etc. - we generally go for people similar to ourselves in that regard. Everyone has their own quirks and preferences (and yes, some people DO ACTUALLY PREFER someone with a bit of extra padding rather than someone who is ripped) but I don't think it's fair to disqualify or look down upon people's preferences just because it isn't yours. Some people do actually prefer hot, stupid chicks with bland personalities. Thanks to the new season of Beavis and Butthead I've seen enough of Jersey Shore to know that there are people like that.
This is my new favorite thread, move over ban appeal. Also love in its most common definition understood and seen by people does not fade with time. Also if your love is based on physical attraction it is called infatuation, which is something else entirely.
Hey NeverDie, it's often said that fat chicks are better at sex because of how eager they are to please. Also, being able to work your unsatisfying member between her body rolls in a manner which makes her orgasms real would surely feel gratifying.
Also, if somebody loves a person enough and knows what their preferences are, wouldn't they want to try to attain a better figure? You know, so that they'd have something with which they can wow their partner? It's obviously not essential at all, but that sort of thing is nice as a whole. Even if it's something as simple as shaving oneself, that alone is a nice treat. Honestly, Jarby as a fuzzy, cuddly thing would still be brilliant, but hairless is just aahhhhnnnnnng
Really, tell this guy that if he cares that much about his figure, he should get off his backside and improve it. I take a lot of pleasure in working out when I can be bothered and all of this walking to, from and around my place of study (twenty minutes to and from the bus stop in town up and down a load of slopes; not to mention walking for a bit in order to find something to eat) is having a profound effect on my legs and ass. I think so, anyway.
DEEDIT: Okay, this reminds me of my pet hate, which regards people who complain about something but can't be bothered to do anything about it. failboat, if your friend is miserable about his figure while he can do something about it, then he deserves to be miserable. If there's nothing that you can tell him that will make him be happy with his figure or improve it, then he's a lost cause and you shouldn't give him the attention. Perhaps he could work himself up enough to sort it out himself.
Also, if somebody loves a person enough and knows what their preferences are, wouldn't they want to try to attain a better figure? You know, so that they'd have something with which they can wow their partner? It's obviously not essential at all, but that sort of thing is nice as a whole. Even if it's something as simple as shaving oneself, that alone is a nice treat. Honestly, Jarby as a fuzzy, cuddly thing would still be brilliant, but hairless is just aahhhhnnnnnng
Really, tell this guy that if he cares that much about his figure, he should get off his backside and improve it. I take a lot of pleasure in working out when I can be bothered and all of this walking to, from and around my place of study (twenty minutes to and from the bus stop in town up and down a load of slopes; not to mention walking for a bit in order to find something to eat) is having a profound effect on my legs and ass. I think so, anyway.
DEEDIT: Okay, this reminds me of my pet hate, which regards people who complain about something but can't be bothered to do anything about it. failboat, if your friend is miserable about his figure while he can do something about it, then he deserves to be miserable. If there's nothing that you can tell him that will make him be happy with his figure or improve it, then he's a lost cause and you shouldn't give him the attention. Perhaps he could work himself up enough to sort it out himself.
Truly heart-wrenching.
Actually no, but really, there is a way for everyone and anyone.
Actually no, but really, there is a way for everyone and anyone.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if my loved one looked a little bit attractive to my own eyes (he is, but let's just put an example)! So yes, I find physical structure to be pleasureful, but not as important as emotional structure. Our lives are short, so might as well enjoy it with someone who actually cares about us, rather than sleeping around and be a lonely person for the rest of your life.
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Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
In the end it makes everyone sad and makes the relationship weaker by becoming upset whenever he gets a compliment from the person that he claims to be the only one who matters to him. I've even heard him spouting the idiocy of that she will leave him just because of becoming bored of his appearance, which is just disrespectful and very much offensive.
Hopefully he can try reading through a few pages of this and not only realize that appearance isn't everything, but that he also is a very appealing person that should not in any way be ashamed or depressed over the fear of dissatisfying his significant other.
NeverDie is just a dickface who can't appreciate a person for who he or she is, because honestly, i would still always be able to look at whoever i am in love with in the face and find them as beautiful even if they were by society's standards "average looking".
Someone who is very much unappealing i would just not even consider socializing with in the first place, I am sorry for being arrogant in that way, but someone who doesn't even take care of him or herself i wouldn't even consider having a relationship with. The variable of making love to someone who is right out disgusting does not exist on my behalf. Surely i would not dislike the person for who he is personality wise, but any relationship would not be able to happen as being able to at least take care of your own body lies within my standards for such.
In the end it makes everyone sad and makes the relationship weaker by becoming upset whenever he gets a compliment from the person that he claims to be the only one who matters to him. I've even heard him spouting the idiocy of that she will leave him just because of becoming bored of his appearance, which is just disrespectful and very much offensive.
Hopefully he can try reading through a few pages of this and not only realize that appearance isn't everything, but that he also is a very appealing person that should not in any way be ashamed or depressed over the fear of dissatisfying his significant other.
NeverDie is just a dickface who can't appreciate a person for who he or she is, because honestly, i would still always be able to look at whoever i am in love with in the face and find them as beautiful even if they were by society's standards "average looking".
Someone who is very much unappealing i would just not even consider socializing with in the first place, I am sorry for being arrogant in that way, but someone who doesn't even take care of him or herself i wouldn't even consider having a relationship with. The variable of making love to someone who is right out disgusting does not exist on my behalf. Surely i would not dislike the person for who he is personality wise, but any relationship would not be able to happen as being able to at least take care of your own body lies within my standards for such.