Can't agree with that one either, Firo is beautiful and I'm nothing special.NeverDie wrote:
Ugly people will go out with ugly people, and good looking people will go out with good looking people. Bird of a feather, flock together.
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Shush. That's not true.Vext wrote:
Can't agree with that one either, Firo is beautiful and I'm nothing special.NeverDie wrote:
Ugly people will go out with ugly people, and good looking people will go out with good looking people. Bird of a feather, flock together.
Shiirn definitely brings a valid point to this. How you take care of yourself on the outside is a somewhat relatively good indicator for the people around you to at least have a good idea of how you view yourself.
Everyone is going to feel self-conscious about themselves whether it is about their weight, teeth, hair, nose or something. Failboat, I would ask the person that your friend likes to express something physical about himself that he feels incredibly uncomfortable about. Perhaps it would help your friend feel a little better and understand that everyone is going to have that little something about themselves that they don't like but to overcome that feeling and accept yourself will make you look even more attractive in others' eyes. I feel that obsessing over your insecurities will make you appear less attractive overall and less ready for any potential relationship. Like they say, if you can't love (or at least accept) yourself, how can your partner expect you to love them?
As for me, I don't have a particular body figure that I am particularly attracted with. I have been with obese, average and skinny men and I can tell you that while all of them were self-conscious to a degree, they were all motivated to either lose weight or gain weight in order to feel better about themselves and for me. As Shiirn mentioned, I knew that they weren't just fat (or skinny, lol) slobs or anything and that they actually were proactive about their lives and wanted to do things to continuously improve themselves and showed me what kind of person they were. Things like this are great in a person and tbh, is a turn on for me as well as others, I'm sure.
To be honest, some of my worst relationships were with men who were fit, muscular, and defined because they didn't feel like they had to do much to express themselves in creative or interesting ways and this in turn made the relationship feel incredibly bland and boring. I always laugh when I see them flopping in and out of relationships that only last a couple months and ask all their friends why they can't keep girls.
I'm sorry but while looks are still very important, they can only go so far. Good looks will hook you, but a good personality will keep you.
The world is not purely black and white.
Everyone is going to feel self-conscious about themselves whether it is about their weight, teeth, hair, nose or something. Failboat, I would ask the person that your friend likes to express something physical about himself that he feels incredibly uncomfortable about. Perhaps it would help your friend feel a little better and understand that everyone is going to have that little something about themselves that they don't like but to overcome that feeling and accept yourself will make you look even more attractive in others' eyes. I feel that obsessing over your insecurities will make you appear less attractive overall and less ready for any potential relationship. Like they say, if you can't love (or at least accept) yourself, how can your partner expect you to love them?
As for me, I don't have a particular body figure that I am particularly attracted with. I have been with obese, average and skinny men and I can tell you that while all of them were self-conscious to a degree, they were all motivated to either lose weight or gain weight in order to feel better about themselves and for me. As Shiirn mentioned, I knew that they weren't just fat (or skinny, lol) slobs or anything and that they actually were proactive about their lives and wanted to do things to continuously improve themselves and showed me what kind of person they were. Things like this are great in a person and tbh, is a turn on for me as well as others, I'm sure.
To be honest, some of my worst relationships were with men who were fit, muscular, and defined because they didn't feel like they had to do much to express themselves in creative or interesting ways and this in turn made the relationship feel incredibly bland and boring. I always laugh when I see them flopping in and out of relationships that only last a couple months and ask all their friends why they can't keep girls.
I'm sorry but while looks are still very important, they can only go so far. Good looks will hook you, but a good personality will keep you.
The world is not purely black and white.
I like the same kind of men as you~ My dream man is someone who is calm, intelligent, cocky, witty, optimistic and caring. I prefer some sort of muscular build and I don't really like skinny men unless they're short and cute. They usually need to have nice hair and they can't be feminine because I don't find femininity attractive. I like some arm hair and some leg hair. Skin isn't a huge issue for me, but there is a limit for how much I can take. I don't like curly hair though.YellowerYoshi wrote:
I definitely am into the brawnier guys. Not huge muscle heads or anything... bigger guys that have a little definition. Also a nice gut is glorious for me. My tastes would be considered far out of "the norm" to mainstream society, in part because I like dudes and in part because my tastes aren't "hunky guys with no fat and huge pecs" like you usually see in the media.
Honestly, a little chubby is incredibly attractive to me.
Attractiveness is subjective. Clearly you didn't see my post about my own attractions, because in my eye a little fat is definitely attractive. I don't know where you got the idea that attraction is one global idea. You are only stating what is or isn't attractive to you. Everyone has a different idea of what they like, lumping everything together molded into your opinion is a little ignorant.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.Shiirn wrote:
It's natural for certain types of body styles to garner sexual attention more than others - however, humanity has evolved to the point where these instinctive hormonal cues are no longer enough to truly desire another person as a long-term mate. You can also attribute social pressures, both telling people that "you should want to bone / be boned by THIS type of person" AND "personality is more important than a nice ass".
Things like this are utterly contradictive, so confusion is natural. It's up to the person in question as to whether they will follow certain social cues or not.
Clearly, your friend is too stuck up on the "looks make the person" side, to the point that his personality is also being affected.
Being told you are appealing means nothing if you don't believe it yourself, so what he needs is...well, he needs to find that.
I for one hate how tall and large i am, but apparently that's something that a lot of people like in a man. I'll let the social cue for that go since it's not being negative to me.
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.YellowerYoshi wrote:
Attractiveness is subjective. Clearly you didn't see my post about my own attractions, because in my eye a little fat is definitely attractive. I don't know where you got the idea that attraction is one global idea. You are only stating what is or isn't attractive to you. Everyone has a different idea of what they like, lumping everything together molded into your opinion is a little ignorant.
I agree with this entire sentiment here. Should looks truly matter as long as they are still the person you fell in love with?Ephemeral wrote:
in my experience appearances are ultimately secondary or tertiary to other traits in a prospective partner. you simply don't care about the little things when you find a person you really like.
Statements like this are quite annoying. Emphasizing the points I will be addressing the most. Oh wait, that's most of your statement right there. I'll go piece by piece, to avoid confusion.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial.What about asexuals? Would you claim that asexuality is a conscious denial of these urges or is it truly something that cannot be helped?
Personally, I don't give a shit about weight when it comes to other people. I don't have an expected 'weight' for someone to be attractive at in my mind; if they pull off what they've got and work with what they've got, well, they're attractive.
Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks.It's people like you that cause situation like the OP's friend, you're the enablers. It makes them believe that unless they reach this extremely high standard, regardless of body type and metabolism, that they look absolutely awful.
Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.Do you understand how the human body works? Or the fact that there are different body types and metabolism rates?
Let's take a good friend of mine. He's overweight and has been for a good portion of his life. Even when he wasn't overweight, he was still naturally chubby. He still eats well and exercises regularly. He's overweight, but his BMI is decent and he has outstanding blood pressure and healthy cholesterol. Another friend is still chubby and has a terrible BMI, but his blood pressure and cholesterol are in check. Can't say these two are really unhealthy, their bodies are just not inclined towards the societal standard.
Also, yes, there will be people who settle on those who are 'more attractive'. Because that's what they like. But I digress.
I think NeverDie sounds like an asscunt.
OK, that's all I came here for. Mission accomplished. *goes back to eating an entire pizza*
OK, that's all I came here for. Mission accomplished. *goes back to eating an entire pizza*
I know several women who are not attracted to muscles. I know quite a lot who love the skinny scrawny nerd as well. For myself, I would rather they be overweight than underweight. Also I like how you forget that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and changes every day. Years ago the ridiculously large booty was standard as the utmost sexiness. Before that they thought being fat was attractive, not overweight, fat. Find another country and those long droopy earlobes get you so much booty. The fact that your opinion on beauty is so stereotypical and bland without acknowledging that not all men love huge boobies on blonds with super model bodies, and not all women love tall muscle-bound men says volumes about your maturity. You have my pity good sir.NeverDie wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
Haha, you earn cool points. You're the second person that I've run into with my tastes. <3animask wrote:
I like the same kind of men as you~ My dream man is someone who is calm, intelligent, cocky, witty, optimistic and caring. I prefer some sort of muscular build and I don't really like skinny men unless they're short and cute. They usually need to have nice hair and they can't be feminine because I don't find femininity attractive. I like some arm hair and some leg hair. Skin isn't a huge issue for me, but there is a limit for how much I can take. I don't like curly hair though.
As for the "I still wouldn't like someone 100 pounds overweight" statement
Who said I wouldn't go for guys 100 pounds overweight? I find a gut extremely attractive. As for what girls want... haven't you heard of chubby chasers?NeverDie wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
by the way, i love straight black hair. Especially if it's not too shiny or tends to flow rather than bunch up. The longer the better, although reaching the waist is kind of pushing it from a practical standpoint.
Weight isn't precisely a non-issue, but i'd be just as repulsed by someone 50lbs underweight as 50lbs overweight so out go the fashion models with bony hips.
And I hate the look of eyeliner. makes me want to throw up, in all seriousness. makes me nauseous. no-makeup is more important than throwing gloss and blush and crap on.
Oh, and shorter than me. but that's rather common, so not as important.
(i noticed i had never actually stated preferences at all despite this thread being about them)
Weight isn't precisely a non-issue, but i'd be just as repulsed by someone 50lbs underweight as 50lbs overweight so out go the fashion models with bony hips.
And I hate the look of eyeliner. makes me want to throw up, in all seriousness. makes me nauseous. no-makeup is more important than throwing gloss and blush and crap on.
Oh, and shorter than me. but that's rather common, so not as important.
(i noticed i had never actually stated preferences at all despite this thread being about them)
ITT: Describe your ideal woman/man
Hmm... Lots of serious discussion with well thought out arguments and organized structure.
By comparison, I'm just here to cite Rule 36 and be done with it. After all, it's not what YOU think of your body that really matters, right?
By comparison, I'm just here to cite Rule 36 and be done with it. After all, it's not what YOU think of your body that really matters, right?
Firo Prochainezo wrote:
ITT: Describe your ideal woman/man
Perfection.
;_;Vext wrote:
Firo Prochainezo wrote:
ITT: Describe your ideal woman/man
Perfection.
The moustache really brings out her eyes.Vext wrote:
Firo Prochainezo wrote:
ITT: Describe your ideal woman/man
Perfection.
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i think a lot of girls would prefer me to you even though I'm somewhat overweight just because you have tits and you look like you tan to the point of wannabe guido. also you seem like a major douche.NeverDie wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.YellowerYoshi wrote:
Attractiveness is subjective. Clearly you didn't see my post about my own attractions, because in my eye a little fat is definitely attractive. I don't know where you got the idea that attraction is one global idea. You are only stating what is or isn't attractive to you. Everyone has a different idea of what they like, lumping everything together molded into your opinion is a little ignorant.
Everyone has their own distinct opinion on what an appealing person is. An appealing person for me is someone who doesn't try to dazzle others with heavy gloss lipstick and 2 inch high heels, but someone who likes to stay simple and doesn't stray away from his/her own self.
Ideal girl?
Quiet, simple, cute, doesn't have big breasts,smart and has glasses.
What a goddamn asshole, seriously. How old are you again?NeverDie wrote:
I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
Why do you assume people are even settling for less? To you maybe, but to the beholder definitely not. I have a girl that I like, and I can honestly say I wouldn't trade her for anybody else. seriously. Is she a little overweight? Sure. Do I give a fuck? No. Maybe just a gender difference, but I put character traits first and looks and appearances last. Someone can be a supermodel but if you have a assholey attitude about life I really don't care, but if she has subpar looks but is sweet, caring, and cute, than she will always be miles ahead.
My ideal girl
shy, caring, cute, smart, sweet <3
It is true, in fact, that everybody has their own taste for what they think a "good or bad looking person is", what it is slightly different is the common taste from a % people, let's call it statistics. Since, we can't make an statistics for obviously reason, we can just "cheer him up" by telling our own taste or giving him some "tips". This is my own opinion, when socializing he should really take in consideration that almost all the people think about you like this: 1) First impression 2) Appearance 3) Personality 4) Other shits. <-- This order can vary.failboat wrote:
So basically, tell me your opinion of what an appealing or "not bad looking" person is, and you most likely by now understand what I'm on about. I just want him to know that he should stop being so immature and listen to what people have to say. Most people dislike their own looks in one way or another, but what might be unappealing to you can just as well be very much appealing to someone else.
About your friend getting depressed because of his appearance, there is nothing we can do than just "cheer him up", he should take in consideration opinions and tips from people who care about him and professionals!. He is the only one who should face the reality, there is no magical world where all the people likes him, just different people having their own taste. It is okey to care a bit about appeareance, so, tell him not to get deppresed, it obviously won't help him. Damn, people should be more confident >__<.
Baaaaaai baaaaaaaaai!
maal
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Shellghost wrote:
Everyone is ugly and deluded.
I'm ugly. I make myself think that I am average looking through observational comparison and self serving compromise.
"Beautiful" people are ugly. People have instinctive influence in their preference for other people's appearance such as fitness and strength, however most of this has been overcome with media advertising and peer pressure basically telling us what we should think is attractive and placing those people on a higher social status than others. It can be easily presumed that this is where your friend's self loathing originates from.
You all know this, you knew what I was going to say as you were reading it, but we seem to have trouble retaining the idea outside of discussion.
Topic Starter
5/5foulcoon wrote:
i think a lot of girls would prefer me to you even though I'm somewhat overweight just because you have tits and you look like you tan to the point of wannabe guido. also you seem like a major douche.
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
In my opinion, I'd go out with any girl who has good character. I would be lying if I say I do not care how the girl I'm going out with looks, I mean there gotta be some limitations, I might sound selfish here, but that's just my personal opinion. But basically, I think character and the ability to click together is the most important thing in a relationship, it doesn't matter how one looks, as long as you are happy and can have a stable relationship with one another, I'd say that is a pretty good relationship you are in.
I believe that the world is very fair, there is nothing perfect. So everybody wins some and lose some. It's all about the ability to click with your soul mate and have a stable and calm relationship that eventually gets you to the Good Ending in relationships.
(Although, I have to say, I am still clearly a lolicon otaku gamer and I love short cute flat girls from anime/manga that are extremely shy and not tsundere, also I have never dated anyone so I guess I'm just using whatever of my knowledge to give my own opinion. Also, sorry if I offended anyone, this is just my personal opinion, it just stands as an opinion, nothing else)
In my opinion, I'd go out with any girl who has good character. I would be lying if I say I do not care how the girl I'm going out with looks, I mean there gotta be some limitations, I might sound selfish here, but that's just my personal opinion. But basically, I think character and the ability to click together is the most important thing in a relationship, it doesn't matter how one looks, as long as you are happy and can have a stable relationship with one another, I'd say that is a pretty good relationship you are in.
I believe that the world is very fair, there is nothing perfect. So everybody wins some and lose some. It's all about the ability to click with your soul mate and have a stable and calm relationship that eventually gets you to the Good Ending in relationships.
(Although, I have to say, I am still clearly a lolicon otaku gamer and I love short cute flat girls from anime/manga that are extremely shy and not tsundere, also I have never dated anyone so I guess I'm just using whatever of my knowledge to give my own opinion. Also, sorry if I offended anyone, this is just my personal opinion, it just stands as an opinion, nothing else)
Topic Starter
Asked for in the OP.hoihoisoi wrote:
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
Not implying that there is anything wrong with what you wrote, just posting to let you and the rest know that it is on topic.
I didn't see that. Sorry, I'm blur very often......failboat wrote:
Asked for in the OP.hoihoisoi wrote:
Frankly, how did this discussion turn from talking about failboat's friend's prob to what kind of person do you find attractive......I mean, just wondering, seems kinda derailed a wee bit.
Not implying that there is anything wrong with what you wrote, just posting to let you and the rest know that it is on topic.
Also just asking, what is OP....? I still kinda get confused with short forms used on this forums.
Topic Starter
Short for "Original Poster", basically the first post in the thread, the topic.
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Affection towards ones personality is far greater then it is for ones appearance. I mean, all of your friends most likely aren't pretty, right? Yet you still have them as friends. If someone is nice and caring towards you, then it is very much easy to fall in love no matter how they look.
I am glad for how well this thread started off, and i very much appreciate all of your effort and thought. Big thanks to all of you.
Except for you NeverDie, you're a faget.
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Affection towards ones personality is far greater then it is for ones appearance. I mean, all of your friends most likely aren't pretty, right? Yet you still have them as friends. If someone is nice and caring towards you, then it is very much easy to fall in love no matter how they look.
I am glad for how well this thread started off, and i very much appreciate all of your effort and thought. Big thanks to all of you.
Except for you NeverDie, you're a faget.
I see, thanks. In another forum they used TS that stood for 'Thread Starter'.failboat wrote:
Short for "Original Poster", basically the first post in the thread, the topic.
In any case, hope your words of encouragement can help your fried to boost his self confidence up. All the best.
Appearance is certainly a very compelling factor in choosing a partner, but we have developed as a species. Unless one always goes for insipid, brain-dead floozies (NeverDie strikes me as the type, but I'm not one to say for sure), people won't prioritise appearance over personality. If neither detracts from the other, then there is no problem.
My personal preference for either gender would be "everything in moderation." I love a lean and toned figure, as long as it's not overly skinny or overly chiselled. Even if somebody's a little bit overweight, that wouldn't bother me. To use names of body types, somewhere around a swimmer/athletic build is the hottest.
I'm not too bothered about hair colour, but oddly enough, blonde's probably my least favourite; especially with pubic hair. Something about it just looks gross to me. Redheads/gingers are hit and miss with me, but if the person doesn't look incredibly pikey/frail, then they usually make me go all lusty. Generally, I'm not picky about hair, as long as it doesn't look too untidy and/or ridiculous.
To be honest, anything that reminds me of Jarby is fine by me. :3
My personal preference for either gender would be "everything in moderation." I love a lean and toned figure, as long as it's not overly skinny or overly chiselled. Even if somebody's a little bit overweight, that wouldn't bother me. To use names of body types, somewhere around a swimmer/athletic build is the hottest.
I'm not too bothered about hair colour, but oddly enough, blonde's probably my least favourite; especially with pubic hair. Something about it just looks gross to me. Redheads/gingers are hit and miss with me, but if the person doesn't look incredibly pikey/frail, then they usually make me go all lusty. Generally, I'm not picky about hair, as long as it doesn't look too untidy and/or ridiculous.
To be honest, anything that reminds me of Jarby is fine by me. :3
You know, I can't put my finger on points of attraction so easily. I can't say I have strong preferences regarding things like hair length or eye colour like some people. To me, someone that exudes health and confidence is most attractive and I suppose I have a rather broad idea about that. It might be a tad presumptuous of me as a virgin, but I find it a little strange when people have very specific sexual interests extending to such superficial appearances outside of outright fetishes. Oh well.
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
However; looks may not matter as much, but it seems as if this is affecting his personality as well.
<which is also a major factors in relationships? You really need to let him know that whether it'd be indirectly or directly.
<which is also a major factors in relationships? You really need to let him know that whether it'd be indirectly or directly.
Sadly, the truth always does that. So much denial ITT.Cuddlebun wrote:
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
You can have an ideal without caring much for it in regards to actually obtaining it or appreciating it in comparison to the alternative. I still don't see the impact other than how hard your dick's going to get for this person.NeverDie wrote:
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
logic is not "how i think", just fyi.
it's a human ability to ignore the hormonal instincts that our nature gives us - humans are contradictory creatures through and through, if you can't accept that, then maybe you're not able to be called human.
it's a human ability to ignore the hormonal instincts that our nature gives us - humans are contradictory creatures through and through, if you can't accept that, then maybe you're not able to be called human.
I don't think anyone is trying to argue that looks don't matter here. The point is that thin, tan, handsome, and fit isn't the only damn look that can be considered attractive, which you seem to have drilled into your head.
'Mattering' isn't an on/off switch, of course everyone has an 'ideal look', that's how people work, but whether they can ignore that for something like personality varies. Maybe you should value that sort of thing rather than taking everything so literally.NeverDie wrote:
Sadly, the truth always does that. So much denial ITT.Cuddlebun wrote:
ITT: NeverDie discovers the quickest way to rouse people's anger
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
And that's just called having low standards when you don't care. Don't know about everyone but I'd be depressed having sex with someone everyday that's 50-100+ pounds overweight. That's very taxing on the body and takes a firm understanding of physics and geometry to pull off. Wouldn't want to deal that for the rest of my lifeJarby wrote:
You can have an ideal without caring much for it in regards to actually obtaining it or appreciating it in comparison to the alternative. I still don't see the impact other than how hard your dick's going to get for this person.NeverDie wrote:
Everyone here admits to an ideal look of a person and yet they say looks don't matter. How does that make logical sense? It doesn't. Just plain and simple denial.
.SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Topic Starter
Looks matter for sexual affection, emotional affection can easily only be due to ones personality.
All in all depends on who you are as a person and what you seek from others.
All in all depends on who you are as a person and what you seek from others.
lol whatNeverDie wrote:
That's very taxing on the body and takes a firm understanding of physics and geometry to pull off. Wouldn't want to deal that for the rest of my life
so you cant bang fat chicks because your dick is too small
nailed it.
i think its almost lock time
If you're going to bring physics into this:
Science (physics specifically) actually states that people with a greater mass (heavier people, usually fat, but height also helps) are more attractive. I don't remember the formula for it, and a change in weight is a relatively modest change in how attractive you are, but it's a fact, which is infinitely more valuable than anyone's opinion on the subject.
Science (physics specifically) actually states that people with a greater mass (heavier people, usually fat, but height also helps) are more attractive. I don't remember the formula for it, and a change in weight is a relatively modest change in how attractive you are, but it's a fact, which is infinitely more valuable than anyone's opinion on the subject.
It depends
A nice manly figure with thick, hairy arms and a nice, developed chest due to a lot of manual labor in his life... His face would have to be masculine as fuck with a goatee/baerd or shaven but still prickly. Basically an everyday's man.
(in reality, tell your friend to stop being a pussy (which would probably be hard on you but you should still do it(lol nesting parenthesis)))
A nice manly figure with thick, hairy arms and a nice, developed chest due to a lot of manual labor in his life... His face would have to be masculine as fuck with a goatee/baerd or shaven but still prickly. Basically an everyday's man.
(in reality, tell your friend to stop being a pussy (which would probably be hard on you but you should still do it(lol nesting parenthesis)))
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
Following wisdom up with an opinion kind of diminishes the impact of the point the wisdom was trying to make. But I'm getting two messages here, both of which are important.
1. Species need to reproduce. Keep your genes in the pool, so your particular flavour of that species keeps going.
2. Enjoy your time here. (Doesn't matter how, just enjoy it. People without a life partner can be just as happy as those with one.)
THIS ENTIRE POST IS OFF TOPIC
1. Species need to reproduce. Keep your genes in the pool, so your particular flavour of that species keeps going.
2. Enjoy your time here. (Doesn't matter how, just enjoy it. People without a life partner can be just as happy as those with one.)
THIS ENTIRE POST IS OFF TOPIC
Talk about glorifying sex.NeverDie wrote:
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
this stellar example of nihilism would be awe-inspiring and respect-inducing if it weren't you saying it.NeverDie wrote:
Hey you want to know the wisdom to know the difference between what's true and what's not? Everything disappears.mathexpert9981 wrote:
SEX IS ALL THAT MATTERS HAHAHA IT'S not TRUE.
Love, trees, rocks, steel, plastic......human beings. None of us get out alive. Now you can stick your head in the
sand and face it one day at a time, or you can be grateful, that when your body rubs against somebody elses, that it
explodes with enough pleasure to make you forget even for a minute, that you're only a walking pile of ashes. Now
THAT, is the truth. If you're strong it'll make you free, if you're weak, it'll make you....you.
Almost, but not yet...hold your fire...foulcoon wrote:
i think its almost lock time
That's certainly not true. I prefer 25 pounds overweight (as long as it's still somehow proportional) over muscles. And no, it's not setteling for less, I just dislike muscles.NeverDie wrote:
YellowerYoshi wrote:
My statement still applies based on the simple fact you wouldn't go for someone 100 pounds overweight. I'm still right because any girl will obviously prefer a great body with nice muscles over one that has 25+ pounds of extra fat. Just because you'll settle for less doesn't change anything. Different people have different standards and what you settle for says a lot about you to everyone.
And as for myself as a girl, I would rather have 20 pounds overweight than 20 pounds underweight because looking like a goddamn stick isn't what i consider appealing.
That's so unthoughtful.. Most of the people with overweight aren't happy with how they look but a whole bunch of them can't do anything about it, whether it is because of some illness or whatever. And seriously, looks don't matter that much, it's more like a bonus. It's pretty sad when you rather want to be with someone who has an asshole-personality but good looks than somebody who isn't what you consider pretty but really nice, funny and lovely.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
It's not sad, it's biology.Ente wrote:
It's pretty sad when you rather want to be with someone who has an asshole-personality but good looks than somebody who isn't what you consider pretty but really nice, funny and lovely.
People tend to go for someone relatively their level of "status". Status refers to a wide array of things including financial wealth, physical appearance, personality, etc. - we generally go for people similar to ourselves in that regard. Everyone has their own quirks and preferences (and yes, some people DO ACTUALLY PREFER someone with a bit of extra padding rather than someone who is ripped) but I don't think it's fair to disqualify or look down upon people's preferences just because it isn't yours. Some people do actually prefer hot, stupid chicks with bland personalities. Thanks to the new season of Beavis and Butthead I've seen enough of Jersey Shore to know that there are people like that.
This is my new favorite thread, move over ban appeal. Also love in its most common definition understood and seen by people does not fade with time. Also if your love is based on physical attraction it is called infatuation, which is something else entirely.
Hey NeverDie, it's often said that fat chicks are better at sex because of how eager they are to please. Also, being able to work your unsatisfying member between her body rolls in a manner which makes her orgasms real would surely feel gratifying.
Also, if somebody loves a person enough and knows what their preferences are, wouldn't they want to try to attain a better figure? You know, so that they'd have something with which they can wow their partner? It's obviously not essential at all, but that sort of thing is nice as a whole. Even if it's something as simple as shaving oneself, that alone is a nice treat. Honestly, Jarby as a fuzzy, cuddly thing would still be brilliant, but hairless is just aahhhhnnnnnng
Really, tell this guy that if he cares that much about his figure, he should get off his backside and improve it. I take a lot of pleasure in working out when I can be bothered and all of this walking to, from and around my place of study (twenty minutes to and from the bus stop in town up and down a load of slopes; not to mention walking for a bit in order to find something to eat) is having a profound effect on my legs and ass. I think so, anyway.
DEEDIT: Okay, this reminds me of my pet hate, which regards people who complain about something but can't be bothered to do anything about it. failboat, if your friend is miserable about his figure while he can do something about it, then he deserves to be miserable. If there's nothing that you can tell him that will make him be happy with his figure or improve it, then he's a lost cause and you shouldn't give him the attention. Perhaps he could work himself up enough to sort it out himself.
Also, if somebody loves a person enough and knows what their preferences are, wouldn't they want to try to attain a better figure? You know, so that they'd have something with which they can wow their partner? It's obviously not essential at all, but that sort of thing is nice as a whole. Even if it's something as simple as shaving oneself, that alone is a nice treat. Honestly, Jarby as a fuzzy, cuddly thing would still be brilliant, but hairless is just aahhhhnnnnnng
Really, tell this guy that if he cares that much about his figure, he should get off his backside and improve it. I take a lot of pleasure in working out when I can be bothered and all of this walking to, from and around my place of study (twenty minutes to and from the bus stop in town up and down a load of slopes; not to mention walking for a bit in order to find something to eat) is having a profound effect on my legs and ass. I think so, anyway.
DEEDIT: Okay, this reminds me of my pet hate, which regards people who complain about something but can't be bothered to do anything about it. failboat, if your friend is miserable about his figure while he can do something about it, then he deserves to be miserable. If there's nothing that you can tell him that will make him be happy with his figure or improve it, then he's a lost cause and you shouldn't give him the attention. Perhaps he could work himself up enough to sort it out himself.
Truly heart-wrenching.
Actually no, but really, there is a way for everyone and anyone.
Actually no, but really, there is a way for everyone and anyone.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if my loved one looked a little bit attractive to my own eyes (he is, but let's just put an example)! So yes, I find physical structure to be pleasureful, but not as important as emotional structure. Our lives are short, so might as well enjoy it with someone who actually cares about us, rather than sleeping around and be a lonely person for the rest of your life.
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Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
In the end it makes everyone sad and makes the relationship weaker by becoming upset whenever he gets a compliment from the person that he claims to be the only one who matters to him. I've even heard him spouting the idiocy of that she will leave him just because of becoming bored of his appearance, which is just disrespectful and very much offensive.
Hopefully he can try reading through a few pages of this and not only realize that appearance isn't everything, but that he also is a very appealing person that should not in any way be ashamed or depressed over the fear of dissatisfying his significant other.
NeverDie is just a dickface who can't appreciate a person for who he or she is, because honestly, i would still always be able to look at whoever i am in love with in the face and find them as beautiful even if they were by society's standards "average looking".
Someone who is very much unappealing i would just not even consider socializing with in the first place, I am sorry for being arrogant in that way, but someone who doesn't even take care of him or herself i wouldn't even consider having a relationship with. The variable of making love to someone who is right out disgusting does not exist on my behalf. Surely i would not dislike the person for who he is personality wise, but any relationship would not be able to happen as being able to at least take care of your own body lies within my standards for such.
In the end it makes everyone sad and makes the relationship weaker by becoming upset whenever he gets a compliment from the person that he claims to be the only one who matters to him. I've even heard him spouting the idiocy of that she will leave him just because of becoming bored of his appearance, which is just disrespectful and very much offensive.
Hopefully he can try reading through a few pages of this and not only realize that appearance isn't everything, but that he also is a very appealing person that should not in any way be ashamed or depressed over the fear of dissatisfying his significant other.
NeverDie is just a dickface who can't appreciate a person for who he or she is, because honestly, i would still always be able to look at whoever i am in love with in the face and find them as beautiful even if they were by society's standards "average looking".
Someone who is very much unappealing i would just not even consider socializing with in the first place, I am sorry for being arrogant in that way, but someone who doesn't even take care of him or herself i wouldn't even consider having a relationship with. The variable of making love to someone who is right out disgusting does not exist on my behalf. Surely i would not dislike the person for who he is personality wise, but any relationship would not be able to happen as being able to at least take care of your own body lies within my standards for such.
Isn't that just proving his point in a vaguely offensive manner?D33d wrote:
Hey NeverDie, it's often said that fat chicks are better at sex because of how eager they are to please.
Unless that's what you were going for.
Letting yourself go is the ultimate form of affection. "I love you so much that I'm not even going to try to appeal to members of the opposite sex, simply because I'm so happy that I'm with you that I'd never need anyone else"
I think it was supposed to be this serious?Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Topic Starter
At the very least people for a matter of change "discuss", rather then spouting memes, irrelevant sexual innuendos and reaction images all over. I for once enjoyed reading what the people here have to say.Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Point of the thread is that a relationship is at stake, and i appreciate it a lot that you all have given thought into what you've said.
failboat wrote:
At the very least people for a matter of change "discuss", rather then spouting memes, irrelevant sexual innuendos and reaction images all over. I for once enjoyed reading what the people here have to say.Haseo wrote:
This thread is getting too serious.....
Point of the thread is that a relationship is at stake, and i appreciate it a lot that you all have given thought into what you've said.
Awww shucks, you're making me blush.
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aww piss off you estrogen filled abomination of a cotton pickerNeverDie wrote:
Awww shucks, you're making me blush.
I expected you to not post at all, but yet you wholeheartedly put your valuable time and effort into stating your arrogant opinion of how you solely wish to score, and copy-pasting quotes that are irrelevant to the subject in an attempt to make you look less off a moronic dickhead.
This isn't a question of "do you like or do you not like obese woman", and an anorexic twig can be just as unappealing in ones eyes.
And not to mention how i was hoping for you to be more then a by a society's standards a stereotypical teenage male with an itching boner.
I am well aware of that you will reply with another one of your overused meme reaction images saying something along the lines of "U MAD" and whatnot, so no need to even bother, dear.
I'm sorry, NeverDie, but I'm a fat admirer. I'm not into men so I can't vouch for that, but I usually find overweight women much more attractive than "normal" or "skinny" women.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
And this is about 1/8th every man. Too lazy to find the source, but I read that somewhere.
EDIT: Didn't realize there were so many more pages.
ITT: NeverDie feeling insecure.
I don't know what an attractive man looks like, but try this. I get bonus points since they're not black:
Rofl those women are putrid and disgusting. That further proves my point, birds of a feather, flock together. They'll never get a hot guy with them, plain and simple. All those couples you posted at like 2/10 or 3/10 at best on the looks scale. And in the rare cases that it does happen, where a model goes out with someone hideous, there's money involved. Those pictures only prove that evolution is at work, their genetics will get weeded out eventually. I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.
I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.Oh please, with almost 7 billion people on this planet might as well stop reproducing lol.
That is quite a wrong theory, our stereotypical beauty is mostly an afront to nature, such as anorexia. Survivability actually leans toward overweight as acquiring food in the winter is more difficult and the fat protects against the cold. Genetically we will either continue evolving to weaker and weaker, frail, intelligent people (debunking your muscular, tan, guido, idiot theory) or bigger, stronger, healthier people (debunking your thin theory).NeverDie wrote:
Those pictures only prove that evolution is at work, their genetics will get weeded out eventually.
Failboat is my hero now.
you couldn't get a big girl like that pregnant anyways because, once again, you have a small dick.NeverDie wrote:
I don't even think it's possible to give birth at that weight.
also that 2nd picture both the guy and girl are the fugliest things i've ever seen holy shit thats horrifying
Minus the bleached hair, I don't think they look so bad!foulcoon wrote:
also that 2nd picture both the guy and girl are the fugliest things i've ever seen holy shit thats horrifying
There's an awfully large amount of text to go through in this thread just to end up not giving a shit about each other's opinions anyway.
that second picture made me cringe for several different reasons, one of the most prominent being that guy's hair
it's a weaponCuddlebun wrote:
that guy's hair
about as attractive as neverdie's tits. some women would kill for those things.
Don't some popular band members look like that or some shit?
Also, why is NeverDie going into internet tough guy mode? Ya'll are starting to act a bit silly, I think the thread has served it's purpose.
On our left we see an insecure man. On our right we see a happy man.
If the guy is unconfident about his figure let him explore his social boundaries or let him body build or something. Whatever makes him happy. Just remind him that in the end all that matters is how he feels about himself because he ultimately can't know how others feel about him. If he pretends hard enough that people like him then they probably do.
Also, why is NeverDie going into internet tough guy mode? Ya'll are starting to act a bit silly, I think the thread has served it's purpose.
If the guy is unconfident about his figure let him explore his social boundaries or let him body build or something. Whatever makes him happy. Just remind him that in the end all that matters is how he feels about himself because he ultimately can't know how others feel about him. If he pretends hard enough that people like him then they probably do.
AHHHHH, I almost peed!Shiirn wrote:
about as attractive as neverdie's tits.Cuddlebun wrote:
that guy's hair
Anyone younger* then 13 years old and not male.
kawaii ^____^;;;~~~Sander-Don wrote:
Anyone younger* then 13 years old and not male.
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.failboat wrote:
Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
D33d, are you able to read english? the entire point of the matter is that his self-denial is causing the lack of self-image, not any lack of support or treatment around him.
That is entirely what I'm saying. Perhaps I didn't express myself very coherently, but I know all too well what it's like to feel bad about one's appearance. My point is that, because his girlfriend doesn't dislike his figure, he should either stop complaining about his figure or improve it via exercise.Shiirn wrote:
D33d, are you able to read english? the entire point of the matter is that his self-denial is causing the lack of self-image, not any lack of support or treatment around him.
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"D33d wrote:
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.failboat wrote:
Of course you want to look pretty and appealing for your significant other, as you'd most likely do anything to make him or her happy, but sadly he can't get into his head that his fiance is already far more then satisfied with his appearance. He is causing problem for both parts, one keeps thoroughly enjoying his appearance and giving him honest compliments and opinions on that he looks great, whilst the other keeps dragging her down with their low self-esteem and ridiculously harsh self criticism, and completely denying the fact that he is appealing in more then her eyes.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
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Everyone? That is bullshit.
No need to be gross just because your partner likes your appearance.
Everyone aren't fucking stupid.
No need to be gross just because your partner likes your appearance.
Everyone aren't fucking stupid.
I'm pretty sure most people would bring it up at least. If you take that comment that way you clearly lack common sense and deserve to be dumped anyways.NeverDie wrote:
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
I think what's missing is that people don't just live to please their partner. The above listed musings would require the consensus both of the individual's partner and the individual themselves. Most people wouldn't just opt to put on a hundred pounds for the hell of it, because of the implications to their own health. It's uncomfortable and dangerous, and for the people who do think like that: let them. They'll die faster.Pokebis wrote:
If you take that comment that way you clearly lack common sense and deserve to be dumped anyways.
Only an idiot would behave like that. Such idiots exist, but that is not the point of what I'm saying. There is a chasm of difference between "Oh, s/he won't mind if I put on a few hundred kilos" and "We're happy together. I don't need to stress about my figure, because it's fine as it is."NeverDie wrote:
Hence why everyone gets lazy in relationships. "You're fine just the way you are honey"D33d wrote:
This is exactly why he shouldn't worry, and again, his misery is entirely his fault. He doesn't need to feel bad about his figure, because it's good enough for the only person who needs to care about it. If anybody else is calling him hideous, then those insults are pointless. They don't need his body and it's not for sale. If he really cares about his own figure, then he should exercise. If he can't exercise, then he shouldn't worry, because his girlfriend's happy with his figure.
This hereby proves the pointlessness of NeverDie's jockish musings, in that this guy's personality isn't doing him any favours, while his appearance is good enough for his girlfriend. It's quite silly.
BRB putting on 100 pounds of fat then
BRB not caring about how to dress anymore
BRB not taking frequent showers anymore or grooming
BRB not bettering myself in any way
Comments like that bring out the worst in the person you're seeing.
If anything, I'd be a bit concerned if my other half was to completely let themselves go, solely because they're "comfortable."
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This is where everyone should have realized you have no idea what you are talking about and have a false perception about relationships. I feel sorry for you for feeling like everyone should be in tip top condition no matter what, but some people who you consider "Not caring for their health" can't help it. Have you ever heard of actually illnesses that can cause considerable weight gain?NeverDie wrote:
Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
Before you go off and start acting like a total ass which you usually do off the bat anyways maybe you should think if your overly egotistic mind can do such a thing.
Moving on:
Really though if someone is truly attracted to you it shouldn't be because of your body it should be because of your personality, how you act, etc etc. As long as you are happy with how you are you shouldn't really worry because there is always someone out there for everyone. Also, I agree with Soly. People who are overly obsessed about their looks really turn me off. I would rather have someone who is happy with how they are.
I kind of back up my opinion with myself. I am thin for my height, but I have never been unhealthy and I am happy with how I look. I may not be the perfect body weight and be all perfectly toned and muscular and such, but in the end I would rather just be myself than try and be what I'm not.
Not my fault you have low standards, and if you actually did some research instead of talking out your ass you'd realize that there is no disease that causes people to be fat regardless of what they do. So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses. You sound like someone that's been beat down by life and has admitted defeat. That's not very healthy. It's pathetic trying to accept the way you are when there's so many things you can improve. You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.JAKACHAN wrote:
This is where everyone should have realized you have no idea what you are talking about and have a false perception about relationships. I feel sorry for you for feeling like everyone should be in tip top condition no matter what, but some people who you consider "Not caring for their health" can't help it. Have you ever heard of actually illnesses that can cause considerable weight gain?NeverDie wrote:
Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
Before you go off and start acting like a total ass which you usually do off the bat anyways maybe you should think if your overly egotistic mind can do such a thing.
Moving on:
Really though if someone is truly attracted to you it shouldn't be because of your body it should be because of your personality, how you act, etc etc. As long as you are happy with how you are you shouldn't really worry because there is always someone out there for everyone. Also, I agree with Soly. People who are overly obsessed about their looks really turn me off. I would rather have someone who is happy with how they are.
I kind of back up my opinion with myself. I am thin for my height, but I have never been unhealthy and I am happy with how I look. I may not be the perfect body weight and be all perfectly toned and muscular and such, but in the end I would rather just be myself than try and be what I'm not.
I wonder if you hold paraplegics and hypothyroidism sufferers to name a few under the same standards.NeverDie wrote:
So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses.
And that's just implying that overweight people are inherently unlikeable and deserve ostracization. Please don't tell me you hold this belief as well.NeverDie wrote:
You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.
Other common causes of hypothyroidism include:Jarby wrote:
I wonder if you hold paraplegics and hypothyroidism sufferers to name a few under the same standards.NeverDie wrote:
So all fat people are fat simply because they don't exercise and eat right. No excuses.And that's just implying that overweight people are inherently unlikeable and deserve ostracization. Please don't tell me you hold this belief as well.NeverDie wrote:
You either aim for being the best you can be or stay mediocre and pathetic and just expect the world to accept it and like you for it. That doesn't sound too logical to me.
Congenital (birth) defects
Radiation treatments to the neck to treat different cancers, which may also damage the thyroid gland
Radioactive iodine used to treat an overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism)
Surgical removal of part or all of the thyroid gland, done to treat other thyroid problems
Viral thyroiditis, which may cause hyperthyroidism and is often followed by temporary or permanent hypothyroidism
Certain drugs can cause hypothyroidism, including:
Amiodarone
Drugs used for hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid), such as propylthiouracil (PTU) and methimazole
Lithium
Radiation to the brain
Sheehan syndrome, a condition that may occur in a woman who bleeds severely during pregnancy or childbirth and causes destruction of the pituitary gland
Risk factors include:
Age over 50 years
Being female
So let's look at this here. How many fat people walking around us actually have this? Maybe no more than 5-15 per thousand fatties. Yes, very sad that they have it and can't help it. But now for the rest of the 99.85% of the fat people, they can do something about it. My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat. A few months with proper diet and exercise fixes this, but yet they choose not. Is it logical to think it's a good choice on their part, other than they're doing it out of pure laziness? It isn't. So stop with the excuses. Stop trying to make it out like you're the victim when you aren't. And of course there's girls out there that will go for some overweight guys, but let's be honest here. you think a girl that's hot and has a bunch of guys hitting on her everyday will settle for a fat guy? Nope. When you have a selection of people you can have sex with that look a lot better, you won't pick the worst out of the pile. So much denial ITT.
Whoa, slow down there, partner; I wasn't claiming that these conditions accounted for the majority of overweight people. However, you specified that all overweight people have no excuses. Just clearing up your generalization, mister. Anyway, I think this should all be an individual's business and not something you should have any concern about.
I want to show up at NeverDie's door, strip naked, and dance around.
At any rate, it doesn't even have to be a disorder or disease that causes someone to have poor weight. Some body types are just naturally a bit heftier and the person could be at their healthiest point and not fall under your extremely narrow-minded standards. I'm a somewhat hefty dude but I have absolutely no health problems as a result of my weight. Blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol is low, things are fine. According to you though I'm still just a fatty.
Good thing I know where my health stands and don't give two shits about pleasing people like you.
At any rate, it doesn't even have to be a disorder or disease that causes someone to have poor weight. Some body types are just naturally a bit heftier and the person could be at their healthiest point and not fall under your extremely narrow-minded standards. I'm a somewhat hefty dude but I have absolutely no health problems as a result of my weight. Blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol is low, things are fine. According to you though I'm still just a fatty.
Good thing I know where my health stands and don't give two shits about pleasing people like you.
Settle down, Jarling...Jarby wrote:
Whoa, slow down there, partner; I wasn't claiming that these conditions accounted for the majority of overweight people. However, you specified that all overweight people have no excuses. Just clearing up your generalization, mister
(1000-15) / 1000 = 0.985 = 98.5%NeverDie wrote:
Maybe no more than 5-15 per thousand fatties. Yes, very sad that they have it and can't help it. But now for the rest of the 99.85% of the fat people
he's not good with math
(Also, I apologize for posting this for strictly inflammatory purposes and not contributing to the thread, but this here Internet's a vicious place, and if you have a lousy attitude, people will pick on you)
I want to help out NeverDie since he's the minority here, but I like (female) fatties. And he has his points in the wrong places.
He should be pointing out that obese people who don't take care of themselves rely on health care that healthy people may have to pay.
Except this was never the point of the thread.
He should be pointing out that obese people who don't take care of themselves rely on health care that healthy people may have to pay.
Except this was never the point of the thread.
No idea what to say here srsly.
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
Topic Starter
quality posting you omnislutLizzehb wrote:
No idea what to say here srsly.
Umm well all I gotta say is that umm well. Hi. *runs*
this isn't off topic dear
You should rather have called neverdie a butthurt moron. That would at least be on topic.
Only thing I've agreed with him on so far is the indirect statement of that people who don't take care of themselves are naturally unappealing, other then that its all arrogance.
Average is beautiful. Personally though, I am a leg man.
Thus overweight, underweight, overly-muscled, puny, and any other forms of extremes are all forms of the same ugly. There exist some outliers, as can be seen by those who enjoy fat women (breasts and butts are all fat), those who do not care at all about looks, those who think muscles are hot, and douchebags.
There are many people who simply do not care about their health and take it for granted because that's human nature. Most of us have other shit to worry about. There are many people as well who do not have bad habits which lead to poor health, or who actually enjoy exercise, or simply have the willpower to do force themselves to do something they do not enjoy doing. As a species, advances in technology have allowed people who do not have these traits to survive comparably well, if not better than those without.
The same can be said about people with unhealthy ideals in societies. In more authoritarian societies people with contrary or disagreeable ideals like neverdie usually end up dead. However we have moved from dictatorships to republics/oligarchies where a select few govern, and are much more liberal towards acceptance. Neverdie is a product of that evolution of free society, and only survives here because of it.
There's not much you can do to help your friend other than be supportive of him. I would make fun of him for feeling bad about himself, but I don't give a shit about what other people think and way too much of a thinking introvert, so I'm a bad example.
Thus overweight, underweight, overly-muscled, puny, and any other forms of extremes are all forms of the same ugly. There exist some outliers, as can be seen by those who enjoy fat women (breasts and butts are all fat), those who do not care at all about looks, those who think muscles are hot, and douchebags.
There are many people who simply do not care about their health and take it for granted because that's human nature. Most of us have other shit to worry about. There are many people as well who do not have bad habits which lead to poor health, or who actually enjoy exercise, or simply have the willpower to do force themselves to do something they do not enjoy doing. As a species, advances in technology have allowed people who do not have these traits to survive comparably well, if not better than those without.
The same can be said about people with unhealthy ideals in societies. In more authoritarian societies people with contrary or disagreeable ideals like neverdie usually end up dead. However we have moved from dictatorships to republics/oligarchies where a select few govern, and are much more liberal towards acceptance. Neverdie is a product of that evolution of free society, and only survives here because of it.
There's not much you can do to help your friend other than be supportive of him. I would make fun of him for feeling bad about himself, but I don't give a shit about what other people think and way too much of a thinking introvert, so I'm a bad example.
Pokebis wrote:
I want to help out NeverDie since he's the minority here, but I like (female) fatties. And he has his points in the wrong places.
He should be pointing out that obese people who don't take care of themselves rely on health care that healthy people may have to pay.
Except this was never the point of the thread.
why would you help someone just because they're the minority
I thought Pokebis being a hipster was common knowledge.
actually just because you have a solid body type and your blood pressure and cholesterol are fine does not mean that it is healthy to be overweight to any extentYellowerYoshi wrote:
I want to show up at NeverDie's door, strip naked, and dance around.
At any rate, it doesn't even have to be a disorder or disease that causes someone to have poor weight. Some body types are just naturally a bit heftier and the person could be at their healthiest point and not fall under your extremely narrow-minded standards. I'm a somewhat hefty dude but I have absolutely no health problems as a result of my weight. Blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol is low, things are fine. According to you though I'm still just a fatty.
Good thing I know where my health stands and don't give two shits about pleasing people like you.