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ZUN - U.N. Owen was her? (Christmas Remix)

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Chewin
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Chewin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 10 dicembre 2017 at 23:16:55

Artist: ZUN
Title: U.N. Owen was her? (Christmas Remix)
Source: 東方紅魔郷　～ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
Tags: touhou merry winter santa presents flandre scarlet remilia lights green red love snow Nozhomi
BPM: 120
Filesize: 5120kb
Play Time: 02:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,71 stars, 162 notes)
  2. Hard (2,78 stars, 347 notes)
  3. Merry Christmas! (3,75 stars, 599 notes)
  4. Noz's Normal (2,14 stars, 262 notes)
Download: ZUN - U.N. Owen was her? (Christmas Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
1° Mapset for 2017 Christmas!

Easy: 100%
Noz's Normal: 100% by Nozhomi
Hard: 100%
Merry Christmas!: 100%
Metadata: p/6355376 - p/6359237

MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIENDS!
Last edited by Chewin , edited 19 times in total.
Joe Castle
802 posts
Joined September 2014
Joe Castle
This came out of nowhere lol
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
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Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
I think I did it lol (but lazy to do hs so pls thx).

https://puu.sh/ylg2o/66536765e9.osu
lit120
3,272 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
m4m from q https://osu.ppy.sh/s/684769

[general]
  1. 東方Project for source, perhaps
[xmas]
  1. 00:45:865 (1,2) - notice the difference of its spacing from 00:45:115 (2,1) - and its pattern. u can do the same thing like that to form a square pattern
  2. 01:16:615 - uhh, too loud... would've lowered this tbh
  3. 01:34:240 (2) - isn't this supposed to be normal hitsound sampleset instead of 01:33:865 (1) - ?
  4. 01:39:490 (2,3,4) - both of these are normal hitsound sampleset from its snare
  5. 01:46:240 (2) - stack at 01:45:490 (1) - tail?
  6. 02:28:615 - so i saw some sliders here hmm... it doesn't suit rly well with those having a slider sound there for a xylophone rhythm here only, but muting it would be fit for its part tbh .-.
[nozhomi]
  1. 01:39:740 - feels too empty not having sth clickable here. how about adding 01:39:865 - as a 1/1 slider better?
  2. 02:28:615 - this one too about the slider sound
[e]
  1. 00:39:115 (1) - i wonder what is this NC doing here? 01:15:115 (1) - too. notice the difference of this note despite having its same rhythm here 00:51:115 (3) -
  2. 01:16:615 - having a pause until here will be better to start a break
  3. 01:39:115 (3) - tail should be normal sampleset
    [*01:51:115 (1) - 02:03:115 (1) - this too
  4. 02:27:115 (1) - and this
  5. 02:28:615 - this one too about the slider sound
cute xd
Chewin
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Topic Starter
Chewin

lit120 wrote:

m4m from q https://osu.ppy.sh/s/684769

[general]
  1. 東方Project for source, perhaps Where did you get this? lel
[xmas]
  1. 00:45:865 (1,2) - notice the difference of its spacing from 00:45:115 (2,1) - and its pattern. u can do the same thing like that to form a square pattern This is an 3/4 circle not a 3/4 slider so I wanted to difference it. Also, it would be ugly to move it further, I am just using regular spacing like all the others 3/4 circles;
  2. 01:16:615 - uhh, too loud... would've lowered this tbh nah 50% is fine..
  3. 01:34:240 (2) - isn't this supposed to be normal hitsound sampleset instead of 01:33:865 (1) - ? Yea, true. Switched them and added drum on (1);
  4. 01:39:490 (2,3,4) - both of these are normal hitsound sampleset from its snare I prefer drum
  5. 01:46:240 (2) - stack at 01:45:490 (1) - tail? no, I am using the same logic of same previous sections
  6. 02:28:615 - so i saw some sliders here hmm... it doesn't suit rly well with those having a slider sound there for a xylophone rhythm here only, but muting it would be fit for its part tbh .-.I didn't notice that, fixed with using SC3
[nozhomi]
  1. 01:39:740 - feels too empty not having sth clickable here. how about adding 01:39:865 - as a 1/1 slider better?
  2. 02:28:615 - this one too about the slider sound
[e]
  1. 00:39:115 (1) - i wonder what is this NC doing here? 01:15:115 (1) - too. notice the difference of this note despite having its same rhythm here 00:51:115 (3) - Emphasizing the clash in the cymbals and the higher pitch of the music BG;Added NC on 00:51:115 (3)
  2. 01:16:615 - having a pause until here will be better to start a break It was there before lol, for some reason it changed by itself
  3. 01:39:115 (3) - tail should be normal sampleset
    [*01:51:115 (1) - 02:03:115 (1) - this too
  4. 02:27:115 (1) - and this Not gonna change drums
  5. 02:28:615 - this one too about the slider soundFixed
cute xd
Thanks :)
NeilPerry
301 posts
Joined May 2011
NeilPerry
m4m from que https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/688183/#osu/1456417

Top christmas diff:

Im disagree a bit with volume level in kiai. The sound volume in kiai seems for me same as in beginning. But in beginning u used 75% volume samples in kiai 40%
Also wanna advice to degree hard finishes on notes with 80% volume to 70%
00:25:040 (1) - end of art seems like overabused with white ticks. sorry for being so nazi, but mechanicaly it works better and more clear https://puu.sh/ym0aq/ee05603f47.jpg
00:58:365 (5,6,1) - so i guess full stacking on that in ar 8.3 will be hard readable. just my suggestion do it not full stacked https://puu.sh/ym0ay/ca1218aac7.jpg 02:10:365 (5,6,1) - same thing here
02:15:615 (5,6) - add whistles for consistency with this 01:03:615 (5,6) -

Nozhomi's christmas diff:

Same stuff which i mentioned about volumes in top diff
00:40:990 - missed whistle
01:39:740 (6) - i think emphazing here unneseccary cuz u alvays use it to continue drum part with sliders. so just wanna suggest to delete this

Easy christmass diff:

01:48:115 (3,4,5,6) - make it same as 01:42:115 (1,2,3,4) - ? cuz i cant understand stacked stuff. For second kiai variation looks cool. but in first kinda randomly
02:34:615 (1) - useless hitfinish (i cant cleary catch but if it needed place hitfinish here 02:28:615 (1) - for consistency owo)

Not so big mod. o/
Last edited by NeilPerry , edited 1 time in total.
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

lit120 wrote:

[nozhomi]
  1. 01:39:740 - feels too empty not having sth clickable here. how about adding 01:39:865 - as a 1/1 slider better? - Did a slider starting from circle place and ended on white tic.
  2. 02:28:615 - this one too about the slider sound - 02:34:615 (1) - You didn't complain about this one so I think that's not a huge problem,
    also I prefer a long slider to make the contrast with harder section before.
Thx
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
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BeatDivisor: 2
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[Metadata]
Title:U.N. Owen was Christmas
TitleUnicode:U.N. Owen was Christmas
Artist:Nico Nico Douga
ArtistUnicode:Nico Nico Douga
Creator:Chewin
Version:Noz's Normal
Source:
Tags:touhou merry winter santa flandre scarlet remilia lights green love snow Nozhomi
BeatmapID:1468245
BeatmapSetID:682929

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CrystilonZ
1,559 posts
Joined January 2013
CrystilonZ
from ur q
nice song

I believe lit was implying that since touhou is in the tags source should be touhou project

[Easy]
  1. 00:25:290 (1,1) - not very sure about this recovery time in easy
  2. 00:58:240 (4) - stack this with the (1) slider instead I guess? so it feels like the whole pattern goes in a circle rather than back and forth. With the continuous melody imo the non stopping circular motion fits better but idk about you
  3. 01:28:615 (1) - to 01:39:115 (3) - since the intensity here is much lower than elsewhere imo you should reflect that by mapping this part less dense
  4. 01:48:490 (4,5) - this is like the first consecutive stack in the map lmfao. Seems really out of place as it's not the best place to introduce stuff. Imo the map feels better if stacks like this are introduced at 01:52:615 (1,2) - for contrast.
  5. 02:27:115 (1,1) - is this a fail blanket attempt? I have a feeling that it is
  6. I don't agree with copying-pasting a whole chunk of the map but eeh w/e
[Noz's]
  1. 01:43:615 (1) - idk everything has been so consistent so far. ref: 01:49:615 (1,2) - 01:55:615 (1,2) - etc.
  2. 01:16:615 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - lemme question the rhythm choice here. Imo it should be 1/1slider - circle - circle so that the stronger beats are active
  3. 01:27:115 (2) - I don't think that sound in the middle of the slider should be skipped in normal diff orz
[HOHOHO]
  1. 00:44:240 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe an error. The jump towards this is much shorter compared to other similar stuff like 00:38:240 (3,4,5,6,7) -
  2. starting from 00:52:615 (1) - streams feel a bit too repetitive for me as they're almost identical. Maybe this is just a difference in our preferences soo idk
  3. 01:30:865 (4,5,1) - aesthetic nitpick. make the angle from (4) to (5) equal to from (5) to (1). for clarification : copy (4) and (5) then flip it and superimpose the flipped (4) on the current (5). Use the head of the flipped (5) as the position of (1)
  4. 01:44:990 (1,2,1,1,2) - 01:56:990 (1,2,3,4) - the difference in intensity is too huge to be called variation imo
  5. 02:04:615 (1) - yea as mentioned before lol
  6. 00:32:990 (1,2,1,1,2) - and similar nc spams like 00:38:990 (1,2,1) - I don't believe these nc spams are necessary. Imo insane players should be able to read these no prob at all so yea you don't need to nc these for readability. They provide unnecessary hp boosts.
  7. 00:58:740 (2) - it's really hard to read this as notes are sooo dense here lol. Imo moving this outward the square instead of inward is better
  8. 02:10:740 (2) - likewise
  9. 02:38:740 (1,1,1,1) - I understand that these are gradually more further apart cuz of the pitch and stuff but imo this seems a bit out of place as the song is approaching its end and the overall mood is slowing down. Imo equally far apart circles work fine here~
best of luck and merry christmas in advanced
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,569 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi

NeilPerry wrote:

Nozhomi's christmas diff:

Same stuff which i mentioned about volumes in top diff - Will let Chewin deal with that.
00:40:990 - missed whistle - Will do that lol blame Chewin.
01:39:740 (6) - i think emphazing here unneseccary cuz u alvays use it to continue drum part with sliders. so just wanna suggest to delete this - Changed for a slider with previous mod.

CrystilonZ wrote:

[Noz's]
  1. 01:43:615 (1) - idk everything has been so consistent so far. ref: 01:49:615 (1,2) - 01:55:615 (1,2) - etc. - Adjusted to make it consistent.
  2. 01:16:615 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - lemme question the rhythm choice here. Imo it should be 1/1slider - circle - circle so that the stronger beats are active- I'll take it even if both work, depend of the pov.
  3. 01:27:115 (2) - I don't think that sound in the middle of the slider should be skipped in normal diff orz - Imo that's the best option without complexify this section more.
Thx
osu file format v14

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Chewin
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Chewin

NeilPerry wrote:

m4m from que https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/688183/#osu/1456417

Top christmas diff:

Im disagree a bit with volume level in kiai. The sound volume in kiai seems for me same as in beginning. But in beginning u used 75% volume samples in kiai 40% The volume settings in the same in all diffs.. ? xD Also, high volume makes the custom whistle too loud and considering the kind of the music, the actual one is ok, soft and clean.
Also wanna advice to degree hard finishes on notes with 80% volume to 70%
00:25:040 (1) - end of art seems like overabused with white ticks. sorry for being so nazi, but mechanicaly it works better and more clear https://puu.sh/ym0aq/ee05603f47.jpg I have never heard something like this, about "abusing" waypoints in a slider xD Well, by the way I keep mine, your curve at the end makes the curve too pushed and suddenly changes, while mine (with overabused waypoints) make the curve natural and on the same trajectory (or at least I tried my best) of the previous segment of the body
00:58:365 (5,6,1) - so i guess full stacking on that in ar 8.3 will be hard readable. just my suggestion do it not full stacked https://puu.sh/ym0ay/ca1218aac7.jpg 02:10:365 (5,6,1) - same thing here If you check in the test mode, you can see there is no difference between two versions because anyways hitcircles covers the full pattern and honestly this one has a better legibility;
02:15:615 (5,6) - add whistles for consistency with this 01:03:615 (5,6) - true, also changed the green line section because there shouldn't be the custom whistle on these

Nozhomi's christmas diff:

Same stuff which i mentioned about volumes in top diff
00:40:990 - missed whistle
01:39:740 (6) - i think emphazing here unneseccary cuz u alvays use it to continue drum part with sliders. so just wanna suggest to delete this

Easy christmass diff:

01:48:115 (3,4,5,6) - make it same as 01:42:115 (1,2,3,4) - ? cuz i cant understand stacked stuff. For second kiai variation looks cool. but in first kinda randomly it would break the symmetry and it's the reason why I did it, there was not other way to have symmetry between two parts. Also if you listen carefully you can notice that the two ticks has the same pitch sound, so they can be stacked
02:34:615 (1) - useless hitfinish (i cant cleary catch but if it needed place hitfinish here 02:28:615 (1) - for consistency owo) Removed it here and on other diffs

Not so big mod. o/
Thanks for the mod :D
Chewin
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CrystilonZ wrote:

from ur q
nice song

I believe lit was implying that since touhou is in the tags source should be touhou project Touhou project is a game, this song is not related to the game. Also, I don't know honestly, it could fit but it couldn't too. I can't find any metadata online so I will wait someone more expert about it xD

[Easy]
  1. 00:25:290 (1,1) - not very sure about this recovery time in easy the minimum acceptable is 2/1, and it's actually 2/1, so it's nice, there is enough recovery time
  2. 00:58:240 (4) - stack this with the (1) slider instead I guess? so it feels like the whole pattern goes in a circle rather than back and forth. With the continuous melody imo the non stopping circular motion fits better but idk about you it's a very nice idea, really. But playing a circle pattern so slowly doesn't make it feel like you are playing it circular. If I had to choice, I would select my actual option because the cursor movement is much more smoother while playing the pattern tbh;
  3. 01:28:615 (1) - to 01:39:115 (3) - since the intensity here is much lower than elsewhere imo you should reflect that by mapping this part less dense pitches are high and there is a consistency between parts that makes the first part easier and the second a bit harder with some more circles and come back to easy one etc, this is the option I decided to apply for a different part of the song but with the high instrumental volumes;
  4. 01:48:490 (4,5) - this is like the first consecutive stack in the map lmfao. Seems really out of place as it's not the best place to introduce stuff. Imo the map feels better if stacks like this are introduced at 01:52:615 (1,2) - for contrast. Read previous mod. I can't edit it without destroying the pattern, also ticks have the same sound and also. Being the kiai I started using one single stack here and next ones on the second kiai that has an higher hitsounding
  5. 02:27:115 (1,1) - is this a fail blanket attempt? I have a feeling that it is Fixed I guess?
  6. I don't agree with copying-pasting a whole chunk of the map but eeh w/e I know but mapping an easy on a repetitive song like this one is kindda annoying tbh
[Noz's]
  1. 01:43:615 (1) - idk everything has been so consistent so far. ref: 01:49:615 (1,2) - 01:55:615 (1,2) - etc.
  2. 01:16:615 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - lemme question the rhythm choice here. Imo it should be 1/1slider - circle - circle so that the stronger beats are active
  3. 01:27:115 (2) - I don't think that sound in the middle of the slider should be skipped in normal diff orz
[HOHOHO]
  1. 00:44:240 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe an error. The jump towards this is much shorter compared to other similar stuff like 00:38:240 (3,4,5,6,7) - fixed
  2. starting from 00:52:615 (1) - streams feel a bit too repetitive for me as they're almost identical. Maybe this is just a difference in our preferences soo idk ? If you played it with dt you would notice how the flow is amazing while playing them, and idk what you mean for repetitive, I mean, the music BG has all ticks sounded, so I mapped them xD
  3. 01:30:865 (4,5,1) - aesthetic nitpick. make the angle from (4) to (5) equal to from (5) to (1). for clarification : copy (4) and (5) then flip it and superimpose the flipped (4) on the current (5). Use the head of the flipped (5) as the position of (1) I do not want them identical but I curved them more for a smoother flow
  4. 01:44:990 (1,2,1,1,2) - 01:56:990 (1,2,3,4) - the difference in intensity is too huge to be called variation imo the whole kiai has been mapped with full attached sliders and final circles, so I keep it the same here as well, this part has been intensified by the number of elements and the way they have been snapped on timeline;
  5. 02:04:615 (1) - yea as mentioned before lol
  6. 00:32:990 (1,2,1,1,2) - and similar nc spams like 00:38:990 (1,2,1) - I don't believe these nc spams are necessary. Imo insane players should be able to read these no prob at all so yea you don't need to nc these for readability. They provide unnecessary hp boosts. NC spam is good to make the pattern aestetically better. Also you made me remember to spam NC here 01:57:115 (2) - instead XDXD so fixed it here
  7. 00:58:740 (2) - it's really hard to read this as notes are sooo dense here lol. Imo moving this outward the square instead of inward is better wouldn't change anything, hitcircles appears too slowly so it's the same
  8. 02:10:740 (2) - likewise
  9. 02:38:740 (1,1,1,1) - I understand that these are gradually more further apart cuz of the pitch and stuff but imo this seems a bit out of place as the song is approaching its end and the overall mood is slowing down. Imo equally far apart circles work fine here~No, it's closing the map and the way I placed it is kinda natural to play
best of luck and merry christmas in advanced
thanks, updated
Okoayu
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so where's the hard of this set
Chewin
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Okorin wrote:

so where's the hard of this set
Merry Christmas! ????
Chewin
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Talked with Kurai in the metadata discord channel and he thinks the best solution for this is:

Artist: ZUN
Title: U.N.オーエンは彼女なのか？(Christmas Remix)
U.N. Owen was her? (Christmas Remix)

The song is too old to get better metadata. This was the best they could find C:
Naoise
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Chewin wrote:

Touhou project is a game, this song is not related to the game. Also, I don't know honestly, it could fit but it couldn't too. I can't find any metadata online so I will wait someone more expert about it xD
Well, even if the rearrangement is not related to the game, the original song still belongs to the touhou project, therefore i think that source should be touhou project. You might want to look at some Undead Corporation rearrangements (Everything will Freeze, The Empress, etc.). They all have touhou project as the source.
that was just my opinion tho
Grrum
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Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

Okorin wrote:

so where's the hard of this set
So are you implying the spread is not ideal, Okorin? I can't truly evaluate spread since I don't really have Normal and Hard perspectives, but it wouldn't be surprising if that was the case.

[Easy]

00:52:615 (1,2,3) – This is a mirror of 00:28:615 (1,2,3) - , but the rest of the section isn't a mirror, so it's kind of strange that it repeats like this. Can you try a different pattern to make this section unique to this part of the music?

01:41:364 (2,1) – Why 1.1 spacing? I believe you can use 1.0x spacing and still have good aesthetics.

[Normal]

01:44:240 (2) – I wasn't a fan of the long reverse sliders because it was hard to tell when they ended and when to transition to the next note. One way to potentially address this complexity issue is to delete the note at 01:44:990 (3) – to allow recovery time for the player to get back into a normal rhythm.

[Merry Christmas!]

00:31:990 – This felt like an important note in the song, but the sliderend doesn't convey that strength nicely to me. Since the player is expected to have good 1/3 rhythm skills at 00:52:615 (1) - , I think it would be reasonable to make 00:31:865 (2) – into 2 circles. If that sentiment holds, then notes like 00:33:365 – would also naturally want more strength. I might be using more of an Insane perspective on this, so maybe that's going too far, but I want to share my thoughts.

01:16:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) – Nice pattern

01:20:365 (7) – Gah, I wish this had something to it. See, 01:17:365 (1) – had such a nice flow change and contrast that it emphasized this strong note, so I was really expecting something similar to happen at 01:20:365 (7) –

01:56:365 (4,5) – Gah, why no stream? This has always been stream before. Now during the strong kiai you use weak objects?

Good luck!
Stefan
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Since people argue that a source is given for songs where the origin appears in a game, gonna post here just in case..

Touhou or 東方Project are no valid sources anymore, instead the exact game is used for these cases. For you it'd be 東方紅魔郷　～ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil. (include the dot at the end, it actually is relevant)
Naoise
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about the diff spread, i think there is an issue(?) because the star rating just jumps from 2.14* to 3.75*. while it looks like a 1-star jump, it's actually a 1.6* jump in difficulty. Maybe add another diff (~2.7*)(i don't know how to map, but i think that maybe just add some spacing into the 2.14* diff to get a harder one)



edit: i only added this line
my english is broken sorry
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Chewin
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Thank you Stefan! I will check pinataman mod when I have time :3
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[General]
  1. Highly suggest you to darken the Combo color 2 because its almost white and playing the map with this combo color especially in kiai where all that lightning occurs ,not friendly at all for eyes
  2. The spread between normal and top difficulty is totally broken. For quick comparison lets focus at 00:52:615 - this section, This is your rhythm in top difficulty http://puu.sh/yBXuU/fdc552666c.jpg while this is your rhythm in normal difficulty http://puu.sh/yBXvu/bd640463ab.jpg . don't think i need to explain more here lol The safest bet would be to get a difficulty in between, Buffing normal might ruin the spread between first two difficulties and nerfing the top difficulty will ruin its concepts.
  3. 01:16:615 - Why does this section has 50% volume ,its a lot calmer than 00:52:615 - this section and this section has 40% volume only. Also the kiai is a lot more intense in song and your volume is 40% there too, Recheck all these volume settings. Oh and if you think the custom sounds are too loud then you should really do something about them because 90% players play maps without custom hitsounds so its gonna sound really weird in general for them
[Easy]
  1. 01:41:364 (2) - Unsnapped!
[Normal]
  1. 00:16:040 (1) - Remove NC since you NC every 2 downbeats here
  2. 00:25:040 (1) - why not extend the slider to 00:27:540 - since the held sound doesn't stop where you stopped the spinner, There will still be enough recovery time
  3. 02:21:865 (6,7) - DS
[Merry Christmas!]
  1. 01:19:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try to have some contrast between this stream and 00:52:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this stream, They play almost in same way and in a hard way too. But the thing is ,the stream on 01:19:615 - Because the song is much much more calmer than the other part and the calm part shouldn't get as much emphasis as intense part
  2. 01:23:365 (3) - 01:25:240 (5) - Sliders like this should really end on previous 1/3rd tick because the sounds on 01:23:740 - 01:25:615 - are stronger than 01:23:365 - 01:25:240 - so they should rather be click able
Difficulties are cute in general but the spread problem is the only thing thats gonna cease me from bubbling this lol. Do something about that and call me back
Nozhomi
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@pinataman : I think that's still okay due to the relative low BPM and the fact than it's a higher gap than 1/2, so should have enough recover for it.

@DeRandomOtaku : all fixed.

Thx~

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pinataman wrote:



Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

Okorin wrote:

so where's the hard of this set
So are you implying the spread is not ideal, Okorin? I can't truly evaluate spread since I don't really have Normal and Hard perspectives, but it wouldn't be surprising if that was the case. Fixed!

[Easy]

00:52:615 (1,2,3) – This is a mirror of 00:28:615 (1,2,3) - , but the rest of the section isn't a mirror, so it's kind of strange that it repeats like this. Can you try a different pattern to make this section unique to this part of the music? It's not the same '-' just a case I made these two sliders similar in both sections

01:41:364 (2,1) – Why 1.1 spacing? I believe you can use 1.0x spacing and still have good aesthetics.That was a mistake, fixed!


[Merry Christmas!]

00:31:990 – This felt like an important note in the song, but the sliderend doesn't convey that strength nicely to me. Since the player is expected to have good 1/3 rhythm skills at 00:52:615 (1) - , I think it would be reasonable to make 00:31:865 (2) – into 2 circles. If that sentiment holds, then notes like 00:33:365 – would also naturally want more strength. I might be using more of an Insane perspective on this, so maybe that's going too far, but I want to share my thoughts. I got you but I prefer slider here because I like more placing sliders between two circles in the timeline (you maybe noticed it's my stile ew)

01:16:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) – Nice pattern Thank you xD

01:20:365 (7) – Gah, I wish this had something to it. See, 01:17:365 (1) – had such a nice flow change and contrast that it emphasized this strong note, so I was really expecting something similar to happen at 01:20:365 (7) – Nice idea, fixed!

01:56:365 (4,5) – Gah, why no stream? This has always been stream before. Now during the strong kiai you use weak objects? Nice one! Since I made an hard now I can do this.

Good luck!
Thank you for your good mod!

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[General]
  1. Highly suggest you to darken the Combo color 2 because its almost white and playing the map with this combo color especially in kiai where all that lightning occurs ,not friendly at all for eyes I always used this kind of white when I have white on my BG, it's fine here, slighly darker but still not totally white
  2. The spread between normal and top difficulty is totally broken. For quick comparison lets focus at 00:52:615 - this section, This is your rhythm in top difficulty http://puu.sh/yBXuU/fdc552666c.jpg while this is your rhythm in normal difficulty http://puu.sh/yBXvu/bd640463ab.jpg . don't think i need to explain more here lol The safest bet would be to get a difficulty in between, Buffing normal might ruin the spread between first two difficulties and nerfing the top difficulty will ruin its concepts. I have made an Hard!
  3. 01:16:615 - Why does this section has 50% volume ,its a lot calmer than 00:52:615 - this section and this section has 40% volume only. Also the kiai is a lot more intense in song and your volume is 40% there too, Recheck all these volume settings. Oh and if you think the custom sounds are too loud then you should really do something about them because 90% players play maps without custom hitsounds so its gonna sound really weird in general for them Because there are no custom hitsounds here so I kept it a little higher but reduced till 40%. Btw I think hitsounds are fine in this way because even if I hadn't have custom hitsounds (or lower ones) I would have kept this volume because this is not a song where the hitcircles need to be emphasized that much with hitsounding being a calm song
[Easy]
  1. 01:41:364 (2) - Unsnapped! Fixed :<
[Merry Christmas!]
  1. 01:19:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try to have some contrast between this stream and 00:52:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this stream, They play almost in same way and in a hard way too. But the thing is ,the stream on 01:19:615 - Because the song is much much more calmer than the other part and the calm part shouldn't get as much emphasis as intense part I just edited the shape but I won't increase the spacing for two reasons: 1) The melody is still calm and not getting higher pitches, I emphasized the one at 01:20:365 (1) - already from pinatamod and 2) there is a balance between spacing on this stream with the following ones and can't increase it or I should increase them too :3 Changing shape already makes the difference imo, so fixed!
  2. 01:23:365 (3) - 01:25:240 (5) - Sliders like this should really end on previous 1/3rd tick because the sounds on 01:23:740 - 01:25:615 - are stronger than 01:23:365 - 01:25:240 - so they should rather be click able I got you but there is no sound on that tick and I don't want to overmap that. I think it's fine as it is because there is already the whistle that emphasizes it enough and also because the sound at 01:23:365 (3) - is continuos and ends on that white tick. If there was been a sound on the 1/3 tick I would have done it but actually there isn't
Difficulties are cute in general but the spread problem is the only thing thats gonna cease me from bubbling this lol. Do something about that and call me back
Diff spread has been fixed, I hope everything is fine now. Thank you both for good modding guys!
I have also updated the source gived by Stefan, thank you!
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Removed the whistle from 00:40:865 - in hard and insane
Looks fine now, bubbled!

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ciao bella

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00:10:040 (1,2,3,4) - wow 4 isn't perfectly in line
00:25:040 (1) - eh this nc is unnecessary and also the previous one looks too short
00:32:240 (3,4,5,6,7) - they aren't perfectly in line xdddd
00:44:990 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - try to fix the slider tail stacks

the rest seems fine, cute map call me back ragazza
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Natsu wrote:

ciao bella

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00:10:040 (1,2,3,4) - wow 4 isn't perfectly in line wow what an eye, fixed
00:25:040 (1) - eh this nc is unnecessary and also the previous one looks too short I honestly want to keep it because being this slider only in the top diff it makes it much more cooler
00:32:240 (3,4,5,6,7) - they aren't perfectly in line xdddd remade it with converting slider
00:44:990 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - try to fix the slider tail stacks Done, can't do it better xP

the rest seems fine, cute map call me back ragazza
grazie bella gnocca
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Buon natale ragazza bella
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