Guest
home
beatmaps
rankings
community
store
help
forum
  1. Forums
  2. Beatmaps
  3. Ranked Beatmaps (Archived)

Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi [Taiko|OsuMania]

posted
Total Posts
76
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年5月15日 at 23:40:18

Artist: Camellia
Title: Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi
Tags: Ethnic Chemical Technology うごうゴウ かめるかめりあ Kamel INVAIDAS FROM DA JUNGLE cametek 大箭将也 masaya oya kamelcamellia drumstep dubstep trance psytrance psystyle Curiossity
BPM: 150
Filesize: 10245kb
Play Time: 06:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Jungle Invasion (6.74 stars, 2290 notes)
  2. Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage - 4Key (5.48 stars, 4708 notes)
Download: Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
6th set of taiko, + a mania diff

Difficulties available:
Jungle Invasion (Taiko) created by me!
Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage (OsuMania) created by Curiossity!



For approved.
Metadata check: http://cametek.jp/jungle/


Thanks for all the modders and testplayers
Thanks Mykaterasu for letting me use some of his hitsounds in his map of also this song.

nice replay
Last edited by Faputa , edited 46 times in total.
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
IRC Mod
22:51 Backfire: so lik
22:51 Backfire: e
22:51 Backfire: pattern needs to focus on the horn
22:51 Backfire: so like
22:51 Backfire: the pattern you never used
22:51 Backfire: which fits the best
22:51 Backfire: =
22:51 Backfire: ddkkkkd
22:51 Faputa: yea thats why I'm thinking rn
22:51 Faputa: what*
22:51 Backfire: 05:23:654 -
22:51 Backfire: and on here
22:52 Backfire: ddkkkkdkdkkdkkd
22:52 Backfire: as a stream
22:52 Backfire: And then
22:52 Backfire: you can switch up on next group
22:52 Backfire: with
22:52 Backfire: 05:25:254 -
22:52 Backfire: ddkdkkk
22:52 Backfire: etc
22:52 Faputa: let me see
22:53 Backfire: 05:26:854 -
22:53 Backfire: ddkdkk(dddk)kd
22:53 Backfire: the 1/6 where it is at
22:53 Backfire: does not fit
22:53 Backfire: I think next group of notes is cool, the dkddkdk
22:53 Backfire: still focuses on the horn
22:53 Backfire: enough
22:54 Backfire: 05:30:654 -
22:54 Backfire: but make this a stream too
22:54 Backfire: imo
22:54 Faputa: k
22:54 Backfire: 705:31:654 -
22:55 Backfire: well
22:55 Backfire: you might get accused of pp boosting but
22:55 Backfire: dd(kddk)kd?
22:55 Backfire: or even just dd(kkkk)kd
22:55 Backfire: might be interesting
22:55 Backfire: its different sound than the original ddkkkkd
22:55 Backfire: ya know?
22:55 Faputa: yea the horn sound kinda like 1/6
22:55 Backfire: mhm
22:56 Faputa: or its faded faster
22:56 Faputa: and higher in pitch
22:56 Backfire: 05:33:254 - dd(kkkk)k(dddk)kd
22:56 Backfire: it is higher in pitch but
22:56 Backfire: still could be excused
22:56 Backfire: something like that
22:56 Backfire: but thats up to you
22:56 Backfire: the rest is basically fine
22:56 Backfire: since the horn fades out a bit
22:56 Backfire: is it cool if I do this as an irc log?
22:57 Backfire: if you decide to apply the mods
22:57 Faputa: sure
22:57 Backfire: cool
22:57 Backfire: I want kudosu lmao
22:57 Faputa: I applied because the original ver. isn't good enough
22:57 Backfire: I think this is a fantastic map tho
22:57 Backfire: I really like it
22:57 Faputa: ye xD
22:57 Backfire: I hope you get it ranked
22:58 Faputa: thanks
22:58 Backfire: yw
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Backfire wrote:

IRC Mod
22:51 Backfire: so lik
22:51 Backfire: e
22:51 Backfire: pattern needs to focus on the horn
22:51 Backfire: so like
22:51 Backfire: the pattern you never used
22:51 Backfire: which fits the best
22:51 Backfire: =
22:51 Backfire: ddkkkkd
22:51 Faputa: yea thats why I'm thinking rn
22:51 Faputa: what*
22:51 Backfire: 05:23:654 -
22:51 Backfire: and on here
22:52 Backfire: ddkkkkdkdkkdkkd
22:52 Backfire: as a stream
22:52 Backfire: And then
22:52 Backfire: you can switch up on next group
22:52 Backfire: with
22:52 Backfire: 05:25:254 -
22:52 Backfire: ddkdkkk
22:52 Backfire: etc
22:52 Faputa: let me see
22:53 Backfire: 05:26:854 -
22:53 Backfire: ddkdkk(dddk)kd
22:53 Backfire: the 1/6 where it is at
22:53 Backfire: does not fit
22:53 Backfire: I think next group of notes is cool, the dkddkdk
22:53 Backfire: still focuses on the horn
22:53 Backfire: enough
22:54 Backfire: 05:30:654 -
22:54 Backfire: but make this a stream too
22:54 Backfire: imo
22:54 Faputa: k
22:54 Backfire: 705:31:654 -
22:55 Backfire: well
22:55 Backfire: you might get accused of pp boosting but
22:55 Backfire: dd(kddk)kd?
22:55 Backfire: or even just dd(kkkk)kd
22:55 Backfire: might be interesting
22:55 Backfire: its different sound than the original ddkkkkd
22:55 Backfire: ya know?
22:55 Faputa: yea the horn sound kinda like 1/6
22:55 Backfire: mhm
22:56 Faputa: or its faded faster
22:56 Faputa: and higher in pitch
22:56 Backfire: 05:33:254 - dd(kkkk)k(dddk)kd
22:56 Backfire: it is higher in pitch but
22:56 Backfire: still could be excused
22:56 Backfire: something like that
22:56 Backfire: but thats up to you
22:56 Backfire: the rest is basically fine
22:56 Backfire: since the horn fades out a bit
22:56 Backfire: is it cool if I do this as an irc log?
22:57 Backfire: if you decide to apply the mods
22:57 Faputa: sure
22:57 Backfire: cool
22:57 Backfire: I want kudosu lmao
22:57 Faputa: I applied because the original ver. isn't good enough
22:57 Backfire: I think this is a fantastic map tho
22:57 Backfire: I really like it
22:57 Faputa: ye xD
22:57 Backfire: I hope you get it ranked
22:58 Faputa: thanks
22:58 Backfire: yw
Thanks for the mod, it helps a lot :)
Protonori
140 posts
Joined February 2015
Protonori
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are only suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Jungle Invasion]
01:04:454 - Switch this pattern with the one at 01:02:854? I think it works better, since you use 8 consecutive kats after the spinner.

01:29:554 (170,171,172,173) - kddk to emphasize last note?

01:55:154 (392,393,394,395) - Change to kdkd? The next pattern uses kdkdk, so I think the transition would be better.

02:52:854 (842) - Change to d? It would be a good transition for the doubles at 02:53:254.

05:26:854 - You used a 15-note stream at 05:23:654, so consider extending this for consistency.

05:37:554 (870,871,872,873) - Use dkkd like you did at 05:24:754 (757,758,759,760) and 05:40:754 (895,896,897,898)? The same sound is played here.

05:43:654 (917,918,919,920,921,922,923) - Use kkkdddk? The sound is different here, so you might want to use a different pattern.

This is a really fun map to play through! :)
Good luck with ranking it~
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are only suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Jungle Invasion]
01:04:454 - Switch this pattern with the one at 01:02:854? I think it works better, since you use 8 consecutive kats after the spinner.

01:29:554 (170,171,172,173) - kddk to emphasize last note?

01:55:154 (392,393,394,395) - Change to kdkd? The next pattern uses kdkdk, so I think the transition would be better. Current sounding is better I think and there should be difficulty hitting the next set of notes so keep

02:52:854 (842) - Change to d? It would be a good transition for the doubles at 02:53:254.

05:26:854 - You used a 15-note stream at 05:23:654, so consider extending this for consistency.

05:37:554 (870,871,872,873) - Use dkkd like you did at 05:24:754 (757,758,759,760) and 05:40:754 (895,896,897,898)? The same sound is played here.


05:43:654 (917,918,919,920,921,922,923) - Use kkkdddk? The sound is different here, so you might want to use a different pattern. for consistency with kkkkk pattern so keep.

This is a really fun map to play through! :)
Good luck with ranking it~
Thanks for the mod!! :)
Cinnamon_54
256 posts
Joined May 2015
Cinnamon_54
Consified's disgusting irc log

flying cars
22:10 Consified: da
22:11 Consified: i'd like to talk about the stream
22:11 Consified: shall we talk
22:11 Faputa: ya, 04:27:454 (247) - do you think I should change to dddkkkdddkkk...
22:12 Consified: 01:15:454 - 
22:12 Consified: 04:27:454 (247) - 
22:12 Consified: use same pattern
22:12 Consified: my engarish sucks so i use chinese
22:12 Consified: 果兩個地方1/6嘅聲音好相似
22:12 Faputa: k
22:13 Consified: 同埋成首個得呢度有1/6stream我覺得好怪 lol
22:14 Consified: ^全1/6stream
22:14 Faputa: 那麽，
22:15 Faputa: 這裏跟那裏一樣？
22:15 Consified: yes
22:16 Consified: 用kkkd d kkkd嘅stream啦
22:16 Consified: 跟翻前面次序
22:17 Faputa: 那如果我想這裏難一些呢？ :3 ，這裏的音樂其實跟intense
22:17 Consified: 7 1 7 1?
22:17 Faputa: 7 1 7 1 1/6?
22:18 Consified: dddkkkd d kkkdddk k dddkkkd
22:18 Faputa: 好像不錯:3
22:19 Consified: 呢度04:27:454 (247) - 
22:19 Consified: 你可以去睇一睇Ranked左嘅exit this earth's atmosphere
22:19 Consified: sor wrong timeline lolool
22:19 Consified: 01:12:254 - 
22:20 Faputa: 有一些不同的地方嗎？
22:20 Consified: 唔好擺kkkkkkkkdddddddd呢類嘅stream 咁樣好悶
22:21 Faputa: 嗯，
22:21 Consified: 可以用例如dkddkkdk呢d pattern
22:22 Faputa: 後段差不多地方的也是這樣吧？
22:22 Consified: 對
22:23 Faputa: 嗯。
22:23 Consified: wa
22:23 Faputa: 04:05:054 (29) - 那這裏呢？
22:23 Consified: SliderMultiplier:1.6
22:23 Faputa: for 1/6 actually
22:24 Faputa: 太貼
22:24 Faputa: 而且，BPM 150很尷尬
22:24 Consified: 可以用綠線隔
22:24 Consified: 呢d遲d先ww
22:25 Faputa: RC沒禁止1.6 www 先放著吧xD
22:26 Consified: 04:05:054 (29) - 呢度我會擺kddkddkdkddkddkd類似咁樣嘅stream
22:26 Faputa: or freestyle跟melody音位置？
22:27 Consified: 點freestyle :thinking:
22:27 Faputa: melody落的位置 owo
22:28 *Consified confused
22:28 Faputa: 不過你的那個比較好，
22:28 *Faputa 用consified的提議
22:28 Consified: 個stream我會擺 kddkddkd 同 dkkdkkdk
22:30 Faputa: 嗯，好
22:32 Consified: 超車個sv可唔可以調慢;w;
22:33 Faputa: xD 你想幾慢
22:33 Consified: 唔好超
22:33 *Consified runs
22:34 *Faputa (　o=^•ェ•)o　┏━┓
22:34 Faputa: 1.10x?
22:34 Consified: 可以試試
22:36 Consified: 如果你想rank Camellia就最好唔好超
22:36 Consified: 我聽落去個音樂係順住落
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x好似很正
22:37 Consified: 唔似Bassdrop果首咁變態
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x做最後的kiai岩岩好
22:38 Consified: 一陣我試下
22:39 Faputa: 瘋狂DT xDD
22:39 Consified: www
22:39 Faputa: 我衹有疲累的老去手指
22:39 Consified: Disable CountDown
22:39 Consified: You put a tick there
22:39 Faputa: wha，奇怪，
22:40 Faputa: 好了
22:40 Faputa: 如果沒有問題我先update一下
22:40 Consified: OD6?
22:40 Consified: 因為BPM150 OD冇必要咁緊
22:41 Faputa: 嗯，這首比exit from... 慢一些，好吧
22:41 Consified: @@
22:42 Consified: can i put this log in forum
22:42 Faputa: 當然，沒人敢mod這個圖。。
22:42 Consified: everyone fuck camellia
22:42 Consified: \:D/
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Consified wrote:

Consified's disgusting irc log

flying cars
22:10 Consified: da
22:11 Consified: i'd like to talk about the stream
22:11 Consified: shall we talk
22:11 Faputa: ya, 04:27:454 (247) - do you think I should change to dddkkkdddkkk...
22:12 Consified: 01:15:454 - 
22:12 Consified: 04:27:454 (247) - 
22:12 Consified: use same pattern
22:12 Consified: my engarish sucks so i use chinese
22:12 Consified: 果兩個地方1/6嘅聲音好相似
22:12 Faputa: k
22:13 Consified: 同埋成首個得呢度有1/6stream我覺得好怪 lol
22:14 Consified: ^全1/6stream
22:14 Faputa: 那麽，
22:15 Faputa: 這裏跟那裏一樣？
22:15 Consified: yes
22:16 Consified: 用kkkd d kkkd嘅stream啦
22:16 Consified: 跟翻前面次序
22:17 Faputa: 那如果我想這裏難一些呢？ :3 ，這裏的音樂其實跟intense
22:17 Consified: 7 1 7 1?
22:17 Faputa: 7 1 7 1 1/6?
22:18 Consified: dddkkkd d kkkdddk k dddkkkd
22:18 Faputa: 好像不錯:3
22:19 Consified: 呢度04:27:454 (247) - 
22:19 Consified: 你可以去睇一睇Ranked左嘅exit this earth's atmosphere
22:19 Consified: sor wrong timeline lolool
22:19 Consified: 01:12:254 - 
22:20 Faputa: 有一些不同的地方嗎？
22:20 Consified: 唔好擺kkkkkkkkdddddddd呢類嘅stream 咁樣好悶
22:21 Faputa: 嗯，
22:21 Consified: 可以用例如dkddkkdk呢d pattern
22:22 Faputa: 後段差不多地方的也是這樣吧？
22:22 Consified: 對
22:23 Faputa: 嗯。
22:23 Consified: wa
22:23 Faputa: 04:05:054 (29) - 那這裏呢？
22:23 Consified: SliderMultiplier:1.6
22:23 Faputa: for 1/6 actually
22:24 Faputa: 太貼
22:24 Faputa: 而且，BPM 150很尷尬
22:24 Consified: 可以用綠線隔
22:24 Consified: 呢d遲d先ww
22:25 Faputa: RC沒禁止1.6 www 先放著吧xD
22:26 Consified: 04:05:054 (29) - 呢度我會擺kddkddkdkddkddkd類似咁樣嘅stream
22:26 Faputa: or freestyle跟melody音位置？
22:27 Consified: 點freestyle :thinking:
22:27 Faputa: melody落的位置 owo
22:28 *Consified confused
22:28 Faputa: 不過你的那個比較好，
22:28 *Faputa 用consified的提議
22:28 Consified: 個stream我會擺 kddkddkd 同 dkkdkkdk
22:30 Faputa: 嗯，好
22:32 Consified: 超車個sv可唔可以調慢;w;
22:33 Faputa: xD 你想幾慢
22:33 Consified: 唔好超
22:33 *Consified runs
22:34 *Faputa (　o=^•ェ•)o　┏━┓
22:34 Faputa: 1.10x?
22:34 Consified: 可以試試
22:36 Consified: 如果你想rank Camellia就最好唔好超
22:36 Consified: 我聽落去個音樂係順住落
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x好似很正
22:37 Consified: 唔似Bassdrop果首咁變態
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x做最後的kiai岩岩好
22:38 Consified: 一陣我試下
22:39 Faputa: 瘋狂DT xDD
22:39 Consified: www
22:39 Faputa: 我衹有疲累的老去手指
22:39 Consified: Disable CountDown
22:39 Consified: You put a tick there
22:39 Faputa: wha，奇怪，
22:40 Faputa: 好了
22:40 Faputa: 如果沒有問題我先update一下
22:40 Consified: OD6?
22:40 Consified: 因為BPM150 OD冇必要咁緊
22:41 Faputa: 嗯，這首比exit from... 慢一些，好吧
22:41 Consified: @@
22:42 Consified: can i put this log in forum
22:42 Faputa: 當然，沒人敢mod這個圖。。
22:42 Consified: everyone fuck camellia
22:42 Consified: \:D/
Thanks for your gone-Chinese-irc mod! :)
Cinnamon_54
256 posts
Joined May 2015
Cinnamon_54
Oi Wrong Artist name wor
かみりあ -> かめりあ
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Consified wrote:

Oi Wrong Artist name wor
かみりあ -> かめりあ
Whaaaa
Akali
639 posts
Joined November 2012
Akali
it's not dnb, change tags to trance/psytrance/psystyle
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Akali wrote:

it's not dnb, change tags to trance/psytrance/psystyle
Ok, thanks.
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
Added Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage (OsuMania mode) created by Curiossity. :3
riunosk
1,136 posts
Joined January 2015
riunosk
helo
from my queue
1234
modding mania diff
ETHNIC CHEMICAL TECHNOLOGY
00:49:254 (49254|2,49454|2,49654|2,49854|2) - intended anchor?
01:04:054 (64054|2,64254|2,64454|2,64654|2) - ^
01:16:004 (76004|0,76154|0,76304|0,76454|0) - ^
01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - ^
01:43:204 (103204|2,103354|2,103504|2,103654|2,103804|2) - ^
03:04:254 (184254|1,184254|0,184254|3) - imo i feel a triple is a tad bit too strong for this sound
03:07:454 (187454|3,187454|1,187454|0) - ^
03:11:454 (191454|2,191454|0,191454|3) - ^
03:13:854 (193854|0,193854|1,193854|3) - ^
03:14:654 (194654|3,194654|2,194654|0) - ^
and so on for this section
03:48:454 (228454|2,228654|2,228854|2,229054|2) - intended anchor?
04:19:454 (259454|2,259604|2,259754|2,259904|2,260054|2) - ^
04:28:054 (268054|2,268054|3) - this seems out of place for some reason, like it doesn't really flow with the rest
Decent chart, look out for anchors in the 1/8 bursts though
gud luk for renk
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity

riunosk wrote:

helo
from my queue
1234
modding mania diff
ETHNIC CHEMICAL TECHNOLOGY
00:49:254 (49254|2,49454|2,49654|2,49854|2) - intended anchor? yeah, for the vocals kinda
01:04:054 (64054|2,64254|2,64454|2,64654|2) - ^ i mean, no, but i'm not sure if it's that bad
01:16:004 (76004|0,76154|0,76304|0,76454|0) - ^ i think anchors of four are okay, tbh, other wise we limit the patterns possible
01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - ^
01:43:204 (103204|2,103354|2,103504|2,103654|2,103804|2) - ^ fixed
03:04:254 (184254|1,184254|0,184254|3) - imo i feel a triple is a tad bit too strong for this sound i think in this context it's okay, as the sound it's representing doesn't feel like it deserves only a double
03:07:454 (187454|3,187454|1,187454|0) - ^
03:11:454 (191454|2,191454|0,191454|3) - ^
03:13:854 (193854|0,193854|1,193854|3) - ^
03:14:654 (194654|3,194654|2,194654|0) - ^
and so on for this section yeah, the triples will probably stay, just because there's not much else going on.
03:48:454 (228454|2,228654|2,228854|2,229054|2) - intended anchor? yup
04:19:454 (259454|2,259604|2,259754|2,259904|2,260054|2) - ^ fixed
04:28:054 (268054|2,268054|3) - this seems out of place for some reason, like it doesn't really flow with the rest alright, rearranged a bit. although, how the pattern plays doesn't really change but it looks nicer at least
Decent chart, look out for anchors in the 1/8 bursts though
gud luk for renk
thanks for the mod!

.osu:
~anchors aweigh~
Last edited by Curiossity , edited 1 time in total.
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
- Updated -
Dreamwalker
185 posts
Joined September 2016
Dreamwalker
Box of FREE KDS
2017-10-24 17:06 Otakujanai: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1450201 Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi]
2017-10-24 17:07 Otakujanai: wait this is harder than i think
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: is it
2017-10-24 17:08 Otakujanai: well those triples are quite energy draining stuff
2017-10-24 17:08 Otakujanai: spec me
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: i am
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: and yeah they are
2017-10-24 17:11 Otakujanai: didn't played for weeks
2017-10-24 17:14 Otakujanai: those short LNs make this much harder than i thought
2017-10-24 17:14 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:14 Curiossity: not bad so far
2017-10-24 17:16 Otakujanai: rip
2017-10-24 17:17 Curiossity: nice play
2017-10-24 17:17 Otakujanai: i got 04:40:554 (280554|3,280654|3,280854|3,280954|3,281054|3) - this one wrong right?
2017-10-24 17:18 Curiossity: one moment
2017-10-24 17:21 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:21 Curiossity: in terms of, you missed it or
2017-10-24 17:21 Otakujanai: well probably intended but was bit hard for me after long jack section
2017-10-24 17:22 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:22 Curiossity: the sound lends itself nicely to the pattern though
2017-10-24 17:22 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:22 Otakujanai: won't put SVs here?
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: idk
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: maybe
2017-10-24 17:23 Otakujanai: I would better make this one to 1/4 length triple LN for 05:05:854 (305854|2,305854|3,305854|1,305954|1) - 
2017-10-24 17:23 Otakujanai: 05:06:054 (306054|3,306054|0,306054|2,306154|2) - 
2017-10-24 17:24 Otakujanai: 05:06:654 - sounds different with this one
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: hmmm
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: i can kind of see it
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: not sure if i want the 1/4 ln tho
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: might be a bit much, or are you thinking remove the 1/4 notes
2017-10-24 17:25 Otakujanai: yes
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: harder to recognize those sounds at 1/4 and 3/4
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: i still think it's a bit too similar to the pattern 05:06:654 (306654|2) - to make it different
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: just keep it for now
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: mkay
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: think about it later with bn
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: i'll keep it in mind tho
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: yea
2017-10-24 17:27 Curiossity: although i think most bns would not look that closely :c
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: 05:24:354 (324354|3,324454|1,324454|0,324554|1,324554|0,324654|3,324654|1,324654|2,324754|0,324854|3,324854|2,324954|3,324954|2) - 
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: i know you focused on drum
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: but
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: main sound is changing so rearrange pattern a bit
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: 05:27:954 (327954|2,328054|1,328054|3,328154|3,328154|1) - this too
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: or make it bit easier
2017-10-24 17:28 Curiossity: you mean the synths or
2017-10-24 17:28 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: the phphahhhpheh??sound is different
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: just to give short break
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: idk how to express in words lol
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: as a transition maybe
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: i think i understand
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: yep
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: and starting from 05:31:854 (331854|2,331854|3,331854|0,331954|1,332054|3,332054|2,332154|2,332154|3) - here
2017-10-24 17:30 Curiossity: so how's this for the first one https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385780
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: just map bit differently
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: cuz it's last transition part
2017-10-24 17:30 Curiossity: ok
2017-10-24 17:31 Otakujanai: good enough
2017-10-24 17:31 Curiossity: @.@
2017-10-24 17:32 Curiossity: alrighty
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: 01:58:054 (118054|3) - 
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: 01:57:454 (117454|1) - 
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: why are these so different
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: i think only pitch differs
2017-10-24 17:33 Otakujanai: i mean 01:58:454 (118454|1) - this sound
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: well the first one you linked is a much shorter sound, the second one drags on for a bit
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: oh
2017-10-24 17:33 Otakujanai: not the shorter one
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: i wanted to represent them, and i think 1/2 ln is too tricky with the jacks so i went with 1/4
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: quite hard to put ln right
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: well i think
2017-10-24 17:34 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/2 would be okay cuz
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/4 ln is
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: oh it's not 1/4
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/8
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: anyway it's only about 50ms
2017-10-24 17:35 Otakujanai: so while playing it's bit hard to tap lns that short
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: although it's about the same time it takes for you to jack in the other column
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: right?
2017-10-24 17:35 Otakujanai: how about
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: 01:58:454 (118454|0,118554|0) - here, i mean
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385793
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: somewhat similar concept with this one
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: make 1 hand LN and give break
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: what are breaks
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: but, i see your point
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: it would be a bit of rearranging though
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: just to make hand rest for short period
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: up to u
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: not a bad idea
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i'll sleep on it
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i might not sleep tonight so i'll think about it
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: 02:34:054 (154054|2,154154|1,154354|1,154454|3,154654|3,154754|0,154954|0,155054|2,155254|1) - better be LN
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: oki
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: bye~
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: oh
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: wait
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i'm not going anywhere
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: thought you'll go to sleep
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: nah
2017-10-24 17:39 Otakujanai: how about
2017-10-24 17:39 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385802
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: i just made them all 1/8 and the last two 1/4
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: but i like that idea more
2017-10-24 17:40 Otakujanai: kk
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: well it's not about patterning but
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: 04:41:254 (281254|3,281304|2,281354|1,281404|0,281454|3,281454|2,281554|1,281554|0,281654|3,281654|2,281754|1,281754|0) - 
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: i think this part should be more dense
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: compared with
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: 04:40:654 (280654|1,280654|0,280654|3,280754|2,280754|0,280854|1,280854|3,280954|1,280954|3,281054|2,281054|3,281054|0,281154|0,281154|1) - 
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: those parts
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: or just rearrange it to harder pattern
2017-10-24 17:43 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:43 Curiossity: ok
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: and how about
2017-10-24 17:44 Otakujanai: 04:41:854 - quadstream for a sec
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: hmm
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: really? quadstreams, huh...
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: i like the idea
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: but it's no where else in the map
2017-10-24 17:45 Otakujanai: just forget it then
2017-10-24 17:45 Otakujanai: i suck at consistency
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: nah, i appreciate the ideas
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: it's just my mapping style
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: i use quad 01:44:254 - like this point
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: since new part is starting
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: ah yeah
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: that could be good
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: and for 02:01:854 - these sounds
2017-10-24 17:47 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: which sounds quite different with other parts
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: that's why i pointed 04:41:854 - this one too
2017-10-24 17:49 Curiossity: mhm
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: so for that part where you wanted it denser, would this be okay?
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385829
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: a little trill before hand
2017-10-24 17:51 Otakujanai: yep
2017-10-24 17:51 Curiossity: cool
2017-10-24 17:51 Curiossity: didn't feel like messing with the rest of the pattern x.x
2017-10-24 17:51 Otakujanai: well then just keep your patterns
2017-10-24 17:52 Otakujanai: i didn't see your map for long time so don't remember all
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: it was less of liking my patterns and more out of laziness
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: x.x
2017-10-24 17:52 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: also, what's weird is that without the burst parts here 04:24:254 (264254|0) - the map would be 5.15* or so
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: wut
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: that is
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: a lot similar with my jump
2017-10-24 17:53 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: but low-5 star feels wrong for this kind of map
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: if i didn't put quad it was 5.35
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: also
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: should be ~6.2 compared with other pp based maps
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: did you notice any anchors in the 1/8 bursts
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: well
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: there are some
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: but that's concept right?
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: like here 01:15:454 (75454|2) -
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: imo 4 is okay
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: 5 is not
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: what i mean is 
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: if we avoid every single anchor
2017-10-24 17:55 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: there would be less pattern we can use
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: typically for 4k
2017-10-24 17:55 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: so ~4 is okay
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: wait
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: 01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - like this
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: so in 7k, 7 is okay?
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: no
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: only about 2 or 3
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: was being silly
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: but yeah, i se
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: see*
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: 04:53:054 - 
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: silly suggestion here
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385839
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: not sure if it's intense enough for that
2017-10-24 17:58 Otakujanai: actually it's not intense except for 04:54:254 - in the screenshot
2017-10-24 17:58 Otakujanai: i can pass it easily
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: just suggested for fun tho
2017-10-24 17:59 Curiossity: well, can you pass it easily after 4 mins of jakcs
2017-10-24 17:59 Curiossity: jacks*
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: quite sure about it
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: cuz
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: first, for ultraplayers this map is not hard
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: second for players like me
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: plays those right hand jack as simple jump
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: oh
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: well if you're having to cheese the pattern
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: then idunno
2017-10-24 18:01 Curiossity: not really looking to add things just for the ultra players x.x
2017-10-24 18:01 Curiossity: although, i do like the idea
2017-10-24 18:01 Otakujanai: then
2017-10-24 18:01 Otakujanai: 04:54:054 - ctrl+h till 04:54:454 - could be okay too
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: then i can pass by playing it as jack
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: of course you should rearrange some of those jacks
2017-10-24 18:02 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: btw
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: 04:56:254 - 
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: this one
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: i mean those 3-2-2-2-3-2-2-2 parts
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: i'm not sure about it
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: cuz
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: i asked kawawa before about let's jump
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: and
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: follow me to my map
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: for a sec
2017-10-24 18:03 Curiossity: k
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: 05:15:772 - 
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: quite similar layering right?
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: different style patterning but
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: it's 3-2-2-2
2017-10-24 18:04 Curiossity: yes, kind of
2017-10-24 18:04 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: although sounds are diverse
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: kawawa said
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: this seems like 
2017-10-24 18:05 Otakujanai: i'm meshing? those sounds
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 18:05 Otakujanai: just not by listening to the sound but by simple patterning
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: i mean
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: i kind of understand
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: cause you've got some 1/4 fading sound and a few other instruments
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: or w/e
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: that aren't a solid 1/4 but if you use them together they are?
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: not quite sure tbh
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: he said
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: try to find main sound
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: and mix that with drum
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: mhm
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: i see
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: and focus on intensity of the sound while maintaining consistency
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: makes sense
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: focking hard for me tbh
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: so
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: i
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: throwed
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: my
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: let's
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: jump
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: to
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: graveyard
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: ;w;
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: don't get silence xd
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: will remap someday but
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: i think i need more practive
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: *ce
2017-10-24 18:08 Curiossity: it's rough with some of camellia's stuff
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: okay back to your map
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: actually i don't think
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: that algorithm?thing is not good enough
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: the recently qualified one?
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: sounds are bit more diverse
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: and also
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: i don't understand why people kept saying that's p//s v.2
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: cuz SVs are much more simple
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: it's the second 1/4 spam 147 bpm map
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: although other things are the same
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: yah
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: and it's got the 294bpm jumptrill that can be spammed
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: so
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: and it's got svs
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: it's clearly planet shaper
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: jk
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: but that's where they're coming formm
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: from*
2017-10-24 18:10 Otakujanai: well not for SVs imo
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: i meant, both maps have svs
2017-10-24 18:10 Otakujanai: but tbh not much players can notice SV quality is different right?
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: yeah i know
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: evening's svs are
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: something else
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: compared to algo
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: btw 05:07:054 (307054|2,307104|1,307154|2) - 
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: these sounds are quite strong but
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: i dunno how to fix it
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: maybe
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385871
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: hah
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: i would put strong SV here but
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: since u don't know
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: NO
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: not (3/2)*F-777
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: only 300bpm jacks, what's wrong
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: oh
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: that's so easy
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: yeah c'mon
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: :p
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: if you can't do it cut your hand :D
2017-10-24 18:14 Curiossity: ow
2017-10-24 18:14 Otakujanai: (Attang says)
2017-10-24 18:14 Curiossity: ah yeah
2017-10-24 18:14 Otakujanai: 05:09:054 (309054|3,309054|0,309054|1,309154|3,309154|2,309254|0,309254|1,309354|3,309354|2,309454|2,309454|0,309454|1,309554|3,309554|1,309654|0,309654|2,309754|3,309754|1,309854|0,309854|2,309854|3,309954|1,309954|0,310054|3,310054|2,310154|0,310154|1,310254|3,310254|2,310254|1,310354|3,310354|0,310454|1,310454|2,310554|3,310554|0,310654|0,310654|2,310654|1,310754|3,310754|1,310854|0,310854|2,310954|3,310954|1,311054|0,311054|3,311054|2,311154|1,311154|0,311254|3,311254|2,311354|0,311354|1,311454|3,311454|2,311454|1) - 
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: this style makes DT much easier
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: message truncated
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: huh
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: i mean just 05:09:054 - these sections with 3222
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: that's what the end of your message said
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: i mean, if you dt this, good job
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: yay dt pp??
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: wow 1000pp for 4k
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: yay
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: omg so broken
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: 05:18:054 (318054|2,318154|3,318254|2) - 
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: think about it... 450bpm jacks
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: in dt
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: wonderful
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: no
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: 05:18:054 - quite different sound at this point
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: what about that part
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: so
2017-10-24 18:17 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385886
2017-10-24 18:17 Curiossity: rip triple though
2017-10-24 18:17 Otakujanai: well it'll be okay
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: and for 05:18:654 - here
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: i don't think those patterns represent sounds
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: just make it simple
2017-10-24 18:18 Curiossity: how so
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385892
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: or
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: that's what i was thinking
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385894
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: could be okay
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: but harder
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: nah that's probably too much
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: i'll take the firs tidea
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: first idea*
2017-10-24 18:20 Otakujanai: kk
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: 05:47:454 - why didn't you map here?
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: to make it same with taiko?
2017-10-24 18:21 Curiossity: cause i got bored zz
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: well it's just my hope
2017-10-24 18:21 Curiossity: it's already 5 minutes and the player might get bored too
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:22 Otakujanai: cuz i like last section of p//s which makes me feel the song is ending
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: but yeah
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: b-but this isn't p//s v3 !!
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: it's just weird
2017-10-24 18:22 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: cause i never mapped those bell things in the other breaks
2017-10-24 18:23 Otakujanai: well camellia songs are all the same style
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: so there's not really anything for me to map that's consistent
2017-10-24 18:23 Otakujanai: not sounds but concept
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: kind of
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: sometimes not but yeah
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: seems thats all for me
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: others are minor issues
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: okiedoke
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: thanks for the look-over :3
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: owo
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: and the playtest
2017-10-24 18:25 Otakujanai: np
2017-10-24 18:25 Curiossity: if you want kds post the log and i'll have faputa hook you up
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: F
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: R
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: E
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: E
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: K
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: D
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: S
2017-10-24 18:26 Curiossity: lmao

Good map :D
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
- Updated -
Marm
248 posts
Joined November 2014
Marm
heya, mod from my queue.

camellia hardstyle
  1. 02:21:254 - the sv here isn't so natural as the other ones with only 1/2 notes. Also it's the only part with highly increased sv that uses 1/4 notes so it's not consistent and might make players miss without a reason.
  2. 02:54:554 - consider smoothing the sv here or even changing the patterns as the sv change every 2 notes works better on ddkkddkkdd patterns or so, changing sv every colour change. Smoothing sv with a lower sv at the end shouldn't be a problem as you lower it even more on the next note at 03:02:654 (1) - with x0,50 sv.

small mod from me as I didn't find much else. My other suggestions wouldn't fit the mapping style you used here.

Good luck with pp map :^)
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Marm wrote:

heya, mod from my queue.

camellia hardstyle
  1. 02:21:254 - the sv here isn't so natural as the other ones with only 1/2 notes. Also it's the only part with highly increased sv that uses 1/4 notes so it's not consistent and might make players miss without a reason. deleted SV here as I don't know to to do anything better than that.
  2. 02:54:554 - consider smoothing the sv here or even changing the patterns as the sv change every 2 notes works better on ddkkddkkdd patterns or so, changing sv every colour change. Smoothing sv with a lower sv at the end shouldn't be a problem as you lower it even more on the next note at 03:02:654 (1) - with x0,50 sv. That kills HD players (testplay proved) with decreasing up to 0.50x. If the game supports figures up to 0.005x that would make this much easier ;w; So I keep for now until I have some better idea on this one

small mod from me as I didn't find much else. My other suggestions wouldn't fit the mapping style you used here.

Good luck with pp map :^)
Thanks for looking the map :)
Raytoly
612 posts
Joined March 2016
Raytoly
BG I think before look better than now
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Cocoaaa wrote:

BG I think before look better than now
Everyone is saying that, I’ll change it very soon
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
teknologi yang mutakhir
mutakheq

lagu camel-lie jaman now
Litharrale
705 posts
Joined August 2013
Litharrale
did someone say jacks?
martyur
178 posts
Joined January 2017
martyur

Litharrale wrote:

did someone say jacks?
no
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Litharrale wrote:

did someone say jacks?

Dunced wrote:

no

:thinking:
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
Hitsounding of Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage is completed.
Thanks Curiossity! :)

Also changing the BG back to the original one
Mykaterasu
584 posts
Joined March 2014
Mykaterasu
The tags "Tropical Carnivorous Chimera Quadratic Catalysed Collab" are the correct spellings from the difficulty names in my set, one of which was abandoned, they don't need to be here.
& hyperlink my map in the description please~

Faputa wrote:

Thanks Mykaterasu for letting me use some of his hitsounds in his map of also this song.
like so
gl :D
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Mykaterasu wrote:

The tags "Tropical Carnivorous Chimera Quadratic Catalysed Collab" are the correct spellings from the difficulty names in my set, one of which was abandoned, they don't need to be here.
& hyperlink my map in the description please~

Faputa wrote:

Thanks Mykaterasu for letting me use some of his hitsounds in his map of also this song.
like so
gl :D
Okay. Thanks :D
SyShawn
174 posts
Joined July 2017
SyShawn
from my q
going through old req now
General
General:
Background: it's not the best quality(res)
must be fixed suggestion
Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage
i think the first 53s are too boring to be mapped
and idk why they're on 1/3 1/6 ticks
00:50:154 (50154|2) - at least i tried this, it works better on 1/4
01:51:854 (111854|2) - LN?
sorry i can't check the hardest parts since i can't even enjoy them.
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity

SyShawn wrote:

from my q
going through old req now
General
General:
Background: it's not the best quality(res) I'll leave this for Faputa
must be fixed suggestion
Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage
i think the first 53s are too boring to be mapped I don't think this part of the song is boring, it's the intro.
and idk why they're on 1/3 1/6 ticks The harp or w/e that's playing usually lands on 1/3 or 1/6.
00:50:154 (50154|2) - at least i tried this, it works better on 1/4 again, the harp thingy is 1/6 here, i'm not following the voice
01:51:854 (111854|2) - LN? Nah, not here. The LNs elsewhere are for the synth sound.
sorry i can't check the hardest parts since i can't even enjoy them.
Thanks for the mod, even if I didn't accept most of it c:
lucari0lu
17 posts
Joined July 2015
lucari0lu
00:34:254 (34254|3,34254|0,34320|2) - These currently start on the beat, in the music the instrument ends these 2 notes on the beat. This should be mapped accordingly and should be moved back by one space

Fun map to play
Raytoly
612 posts
Joined March 2016
Raytoly
6* -> 7* I told surono and nishizumi is my parent
2561-01-14 18:21 Cocoaaa: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1434483 Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi [Jungle Invasion]]
2561-01-14 18:21 Faputa: ?
2561-01-14 18:21 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:22 Cocoaaa: 01:15:454 - if I remember I told you. 1/6 start here
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: I kept that because it relates to the pattern of 1/6 + 1/4
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: wait
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: ,
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:23 Cocoaaa: how about (dddk)k(dddk)k(dddk)k(dddk)kd
2561-01-14 18:24 Faputa: I just need to change the positions of the 1/4 and 1/6
2561-01-14 18:24 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:25 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:25 Cocoaaa: 01:01:254 - 01:02:854 - 01:04:454 - iit's not makesense to use 1/6
2561-01-14 18:26 Cocoaaa: I can't hear
2561-01-14 18:27 Faputa: there's 1/8. What should I do
2561-01-14 18:27 Cocoaaa: what? let's me listen again
2561-01-14 18:27 Cocoaaa: no,it's isn't 1/8 or 1/6
2561-01-14 18:28 Faputa: I may need to map 1/2 here
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: wait
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: you can use 1/4 here
2561-01-14 18:28 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: ooooooo ooooooo ooooooo pattern
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: like this part
2561-01-14 18:29 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: 01:05:154 (1) - 
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: ar wait
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: 01:05:654 - 
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: spinner should end here
2561-01-14 18:30 Cocoaaa: make it simple and better 
2561-01-14 18:30 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:30 Cocoaaa: ah wait
2561-01-14 18:31 Faputa: but yeah, that will make it a 3-notes spinner
2561-01-14 18:31 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10005987
2561-01-14 18:31 Faputa: looks like
2561-01-14 18:32 Faputa: nice
2561-01-14 18:32 Faputa: I'll also make this 01:05:854 (1) - K to indicate the separation
2561-01-14 18:32 Cocoaaa: 01:05:854 - add finisher here to make it seem stronger than before
2561-01-14 18:32 Cocoaaa: yeah should do it
2561-01-14 18:33 Cocoaaa: should change to D
2561-01-14 18:33 Faputa: yeah, it will make a better flow
2561-01-14 18:33 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:34 Cocoaaa: 01:06:054 - 01:07:254 - use long d and 01:07:454 - 01:08:854 -  use k
2561-01-14 18:35 Faputa: fixed as well
2561-01-14 18:36 Cocoaaa: 01:09:054 - 01:12:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006017
2561-01-14 18:37 Faputa: so it will be the long d and long k pattern gradually becoming shorter
2561-01-14 18:37 Faputa: I love this
2561-01-14 18:38 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 18:38 Cocoaaa: and this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006028
2561-01-14 18:38 Faputa: time to make the diff harder
2561-01-14 18:39 Faputa: maybe (dkkk)? seems sound nicer
2561-01-14 18:40 Faputa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006049 like this
2561-01-14 18:41 Cocoaaa: no
2561-01-14 18:41 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006055
2561-01-14 18:41 Faputa: (ddkk) sounds a little off, or what do you think
2561-01-14 18:42 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006065
2561-01-14 18:43 Faputa: this looks better
2561-01-14 18:44 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006076
2561-01-14 18:44 Faputa: also fix for the part at 1:30:054
2561-01-14 18:44 Cocoaaa: ok
2561-01-14 18:45 Faputa: I also love the idea at 01:42:654 (290) -
2561-01-14 18:45 Faputa: fixed that one too
2561-01-14 18:46 Cocoaaa: also it's will be free pepe
2561-01-14 18:48 Cocoaaa: 03:44:854 - 1/6 here dkkd
2561-01-14 18:49 Faputa: and delete 03:45:154 (83) -
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: how about 03:49:254 (99,100,101) - ?
2561-01-14 18:50 Cocoaaa: should too
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: anymore?
2561-01-14 18:52 Cocoaaa: 04:17:854 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006120  ---- 04:21:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006125
2561-01-14 18:54 Faputa: good
2561-01-14 18:55 Cocoaaa: 04:24:254 - 04:29:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006143
2561-01-14 18:55 Faputa: I think I should make 04:20:254 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - (ddddddk) instead of (dddkkkd) what do you think?
2561-01-14 18:55 Cocoaaa: up to you
2561-01-14 18:56 Cocoaaa: it's your map
2561-01-14 18:56 Faputa: yes, I want to make it flows like currently does
2561-01-14 18:57 Cocoaaa: 04:31:654 (11,12) - is 1/6
2561-01-14 18:58 Cocoaaa: 04:31:654 (11,12) - 
2561-01-14 18:58 Cocoaaa: 04:34:854 -
2561-01-14 18:59 Cocoaaa: but can keep
2561-01-14 18:59 Cocoaaa: I'm just listen this kiai and you focue 1/6 on some point only
2561-01-14 19:00 Cocoaaa: like this sound - 04:36:254 -
2561-01-14 19:00 Cocoaaa: look makesence
2561-01-14 19:00 Faputa: yes, I was discussing on those parts with Axer before
2561-01-14 19:01 Faputa: there's something similar after the kiai as well, at the ending
2561-01-14 19:01 Faputa: selective usage of 1/6s
2561-01-14 19:01 Cocoaaa: 04:47:854 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006171
2561-01-14 19:02 Faputa: I just found something xD, the SR dropped
2561-01-14 19:02 Cocoaaa: what the
2561-01-14 19:02 Cocoaaa: me is 7*
2561-01-14 19:03 Cocoaaa:  04:53:054 - 04:49:854 -  use should use long stream
2561-01-14 19:03 Cocoaaa: 04:51:454 - 04:53:054 -  and 1/6 again
2561-01-14 19:03 Faputa: your side, it shows 7*?
2561-01-14 19:05 Faputa: I fixed some parts and now it shows 7.06*, alright
2561-01-14 19:07 Cocoaaa: 04:56:254 - 05:06:254 -  I really want to say
2561-01-14 19:07 Faputa: feel like I am making it looks like hell now xD nvm i still love it
2561-01-14 19:08 Cocoaaa: it's can use longggggggg stream
2561-01-14 19:08 Cocoaaa: and add 1/6
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: like it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006228
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: and really look make sense
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: 05:02:554 - and cut stream here
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: you can continus from my pattern
2561-01-14 19:10 Faputa: fixed halfly in my own way this time.
2561-01-14 19:10 Faputa: I have got some idea
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: look like kin's map
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: bassdrop
2561-01-14 19:11 Faputa: but still retaining your points
2561-01-14 19:11 Cocoaaa: wait
2561-01-14 19:11 Cocoaaa: 04:57:554 - all of 1/6 they're on blue line
2561-01-14 19:12 Faputa: that uses 1/12
2561-01-14 19:12 Faputa: but it is fine
2561-01-14 19:12 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: I am keeping this part as 1/4 for now. I said I have some idea
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: actually
2561-01-14 19:13 Cocoaaa: 05:22:054 - 05:47:454 -  is calm now
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: if changing these all into 1/6, this kiai may be too hard compared to other parts
2561-01-14 19:13 Cocoaaa: should have no 1/6 anymore
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: I am keeping this 05:31:654 (605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612) - 1/6
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: here's my reason
2561-01-14 19:14 Cocoaaa: good
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: the trance sounds here really stands out
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: so the ending part uses this style of 1/4 and 1/6 mapping
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: you following my all mod
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: and some change by yourself = =
2561-01-14 19:15 Faputa: yes, it is my map afterall :^)
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: although
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: this is my 6th taiko map submitted
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: it would not be better than my recent maps
2561-01-14 19:16 Cocoaaa: you can learn 1/6 from my map
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: so, are we finished?
2561-01-14 19:16 Cocoaaa: wait I will chack notepad
2561-01-14 19:17 Faputa: yeah. After skilling up and checking your map, I feel more comfortable to map harder patterns on this map
2561-01-14 19:17 Cocoaaa: ok it's fine
2561-01-14 19:18 Cocoaaa: done ,may you can find some mod to get suggestion
2561-01-14 19:18 Cocoaaa: starrate now?
2561-01-14 19:19 Faputa: 7.08*, after balaning
2561-01-14 19:19 Cocoaaa: LOL
2561-01-14 19:19 Faputa: balancing*
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Cocoaaa wrote:

6* -> 7* I told surono and nishizumi is my parent
2561-01-14 18:21 Cocoaaa: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1434483 Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi [Jungle Invasion]]
2561-01-14 18:21 Faputa: ?
2561-01-14 18:21 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:22 Cocoaaa: 01:15:454 - if I remember I told you. 1/6 start here
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: I kept that because it relates to the pattern of 1/6 + 1/4
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: wait
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: ,
2561-01-14 18:23 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:23 Cocoaaa: how about (dddk)k(dddk)k(dddk)k(dddk)kd
2561-01-14 18:24 Faputa: I just need to change the positions of the 1/4 and 1/6
2561-01-14 18:24 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:25 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:25 Cocoaaa: 01:01:254 - 01:02:854 - 01:04:454 - iit's not makesense to use 1/6
2561-01-14 18:26 Cocoaaa: I can't hear
2561-01-14 18:27 Faputa: there's 1/8. What should I do
2561-01-14 18:27 Cocoaaa: what? let's me listen again
2561-01-14 18:27 Cocoaaa: no,it's isn't 1/8 or 1/6
2561-01-14 18:28 Faputa: I may need to map 1/2 here
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: wait
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: you can use 1/4 here
2561-01-14 18:28 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: ooooooo ooooooo ooooooo pattern
2561-01-14 18:28 Cocoaaa: like this part
2561-01-14 18:29 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: 01:05:154 (1) - 
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: ar wait
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: 01:05:654 - 
2561-01-14 18:29 Cocoaaa: spinner should end here
2561-01-14 18:30 Cocoaaa: make it simple and better 
2561-01-14 18:30 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:30 Cocoaaa: ah wait
2561-01-14 18:31 Faputa: but yeah, that will make it a 3-notes spinner
2561-01-14 18:31 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10005987
2561-01-14 18:31 Faputa: looks like
2561-01-14 18:32 Faputa: nice
2561-01-14 18:32 Faputa: I'll also make this 01:05:854 (1) - K to indicate the separation
2561-01-14 18:32 Cocoaaa: 01:05:854 - add finisher here to make it seem stronger than before
2561-01-14 18:32 Cocoaaa: yeah should do it
2561-01-14 18:33 Cocoaaa: should change to D
2561-01-14 18:33 Faputa: yeah, it will make a better flow
2561-01-14 18:33 Faputa: fixed
2561-01-14 18:34 Cocoaaa: 01:06:054 - 01:07:254 - use long d and 01:07:454 - 01:08:854 -  use k
2561-01-14 18:35 Faputa: fixed as well
2561-01-14 18:36 Cocoaaa: 01:09:054 - 01:12:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006017
2561-01-14 18:37 Faputa: so it will be the long d and long k pattern gradually becoming shorter
2561-01-14 18:37 Faputa: I love this
2561-01-14 18:38 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 18:38 Cocoaaa: and this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006028
2561-01-14 18:38 Faputa: time to make the diff harder
2561-01-14 18:39 Faputa: maybe (dkkk)? seems sound nicer
2561-01-14 18:40 Faputa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006049 like this
2561-01-14 18:41 Cocoaaa: no
2561-01-14 18:41 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006055
2561-01-14 18:41 Faputa: (ddkk) sounds a little off, or what do you think
2561-01-14 18:42 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006065
2561-01-14 18:43 Faputa: this looks better
2561-01-14 18:44 Cocoaaa: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006076
2561-01-14 18:44 Faputa: also fix for the part at 1:30:054
2561-01-14 18:44 Cocoaaa: ok
2561-01-14 18:45 Faputa: I also love the idea at 01:42:654 (290) -
2561-01-14 18:45 Faputa: fixed that one too
2561-01-14 18:46 Cocoaaa: also it's will be free pepe
2561-01-14 18:48 Cocoaaa: 03:44:854 - 1/6 here dkkd
2561-01-14 18:49 Faputa: and delete 03:45:154 (83) -
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: how about 03:49:254 (99,100,101) - ?
2561-01-14 18:50 Cocoaaa: should too
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: okay
2561-01-14 18:50 Faputa: anymore?
2561-01-14 18:52 Cocoaaa: 04:17:854 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006120  ---- 04:21:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006125
2561-01-14 18:54 Faputa: good
2561-01-14 18:55 Cocoaaa: 04:24:254 - 04:29:054 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006143
2561-01-14 18:55 Faputa: I think I should make 04:20:254 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - (ddddddk) instead of (dddkkkd) what do you think?
2561-01-14 18:55 Cocoaaa: up to you
2561-01-14 18:56 Cocoaaa: it's your map
2561-01-14 18:56 Faputa: yes, I want to make it flows like currently does
2561-01-14 18:57 Cocoaaa: 04:31:654 (11,12) - is 1/6
2561-01-14 18:58 Cocoaaa: 04:31:654 (11,12) - 
2561-01-14 18:58 Cocoaaa: 04:34:854 -
2561-01-14 18:59 Cocoaaa: but can keep
2561-01-14 18:59 Cocoaaa: I'm just listen this kiai and you focue 1/6 on some point only
2561-01-14 19:00 Cocoaaa: like this sound - 04:36:254 -
2561-01-14 19:00 Cocoaaa: look makesence
2561-01-14 19:00 Faputa: yes, I was discussing on those parts with Axer before
2561-01-14 19:01 Faputa: there's something similar after the kiai as well, at the ending
2561-01-14 19:01 Faputa: selective usage of 1/6s
2561-01-14 19:01 Cocoaaa: 04:47:854 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006171
2561-01-14 19:02 Faputa: I just found something xD, the SR dropped
2561-01-14 19:02 Cocoaaa: what the
2561-01-14 19:02 Cocoaaa: me is 7*
2561-01-14 19:03 Cocoaaa:  04:53:054 - 04:49:854 -  use should use long stream
2561-01-14 19:03 Cocoaaa: 04:51:454 - 04:53:054 -  and 1/6 again
2561-01-14 19:03 Faputa: your side, it shows 7*?
2561-01-14 19:05 Faputa: I fixed some parts and now it shows 7.06*, alright
2561-01-14 19:07 Cocoaaa: 04:56:254 - 05:06:254 -  I really want to say
2561-01-14 19:07 Faputa: feel like I am making it looks like hell now xD nvm i still love it
2561-01-14 19:08 Cocoaaa: it's can use longggggggg stream
2561-01-14 19:08 Cocoaaa: and add 1/6
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: like it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10006228
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: and really look make sense
2561-01-14 19:09 Cocoaaa: 05:02:554 - and cut stream here
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: you can continus from my pattern
2561-01-14 19:10 Faputa: fixed halfly in my own way this time.
2561-01-14 19:10 Faputa: I have got some idea
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: look like kin's map
2561-01-14 19:10 Cocoaaa: bassdrop
2561-01-14 19:11 Faputa: but still retaining your points
2561-01-14 19:11 Cocoaaa: wait
2561-01-14 19:11 Cocoaaa: 04:57:554 - all of 1/6 they're on blue line
2561-01-14 19:12 Faputa: that uses 1/12
2561-01-14 19:12 Faputa: but it is fine
2561-01-14 19:12 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: I am keeping this part as 1/4 for now. I said I have some idea
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: actually
2561-01-14 19:13 Cocoaaa: 05:22:054 - 05:47:454 -  is calm now
2561-01-14 19:13 Faputa: if changing these all into 1/6, this kiai may be too hard compared to other parts
2561-01-14 19:13 Cocoaaa: should have no 1/6 anymore
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: I am keeping this 05:31:654 (605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612) - 1/6
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: here's my reason
2561-01-14 19:14 Cocoaaa: good
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: the trance sounds here really stands out
2561-01-14 19:14 Faputa: so the ending part uses this style of 1/4 and 1/6 mapping
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: ah ha
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: you following my all mod
2561-01-14 19:15 Cocoaaa: and some change by yourself = =
2561-01-14 19:15 Faputa: yes, it is my map afterall :^)
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: although
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: this is my 6th taiko map submitted
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: it would not be better than my recent maps
2561-01-14 19:16 Cocoaaa: you can learn 1/6 from my map
2561-01-14 19:16 Faputa: so, are we finished?
2561-01-14 19:16 Cocoaaa: wait I will chack notepad
2561-01-14 19:17 Faputa: yeah. After skilling up and checking your map, I feel more comfortable to map harder patterns on this map
2561-01-14 19:17 Cocoaaa: ok it's fine
2561-01-14 19:18 Cocoaaa: done ,may you can find some mod to get suggestion
2561-01-14 19:18 Cocoaaa: starrate now?
2561-01-14 19:19 Faputa: 7.08*, after balaning
2561-01-14 19:19 Cocoaaa: LOL
2561-01-14 19:19 Faputa: balancing*
HYPE

Edit:
I will reasonably nerf it to make the patterns more feasible for modded playing.
Arzenvald
4,056 posts
Joined July 2013
Arzenvald
just passing by because furry album w
mania

01:34:854 (94854|0,94954|0,95054|0,95254|0,95354|0,95454|0) - something like this are kinda too much
the OD9 - HP 8.7 are way too much, please consider to use bigger HP rate and lower OD rate, 8 or lower and higher HP is somehow better for jacky map like this imo

and 02:01:954 (121954|2,121954|3,122054|1) - i suppose the double should be at 02:02:054 (122054|1,122354|2) - instead to highlight the kick, its louder

04:55:054 (295054|1) - stuttering sv would be great

05:02:854 (302854|2,302954|1,303154|1,303254|0) - kinda unfortunate to not layer the playing synth around this part and using JS-ish jack instead

wee
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
nice buff, thx son.
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Surono wrote:

nice buff, thx son.
Nice
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity

Arzenvald wrote:

just passing by because furry album w owo
mania

01:34:854 (94854|0,94954|0,95054|0,95254|0,95354|0,95454|0) - something like this are kinda too much ok, no consecutive triple jacks here
the OD9 - HP 8.7 are way too much, please consider to use bigger HP rate and lower OD rate, 8 or lower and higher HP is somehow better for jacky map like this imo i guess that's fair, and with some of the shorter lns a lower od makes sense. od->8, hp->9.1

and 02:01:954 (121954|2,121954|3,122054|1) - i suppose the double should be at 02:02:054 (122054|1,122354|2) - instead to highlight the kick, its louder meh, i think it's more of the double highlighting the end of the snare sound instead, the kick isn't super apparent to me in this case

04:55:054 (295054|1) - stuttering sv would be great if i get around to it i will add this for sure

05:02:854 (302854|2,302954|1,303154|1,303254|0) - kinda unfortunate to not layer the playing synth around this part and using JS-ish jack instead yea, but the sound you show here kinda dissolves into the rest of the music so i think it'd be better to follow stuff you can hear

wee
Thanks for the mod! I'd love to add svs at some point, just when i get around to it, but the map seems fine on its own anyway.

Also added some of my own changes, mostly for the slow parts and some of the first kiai: new edition
vrnl
759 posts
Joined August 2014
vrnl
here for taiko :3

general: none

map:

00:39:254 (81) - k? for high vocal
00:59:454 (196) - d, i think K K k is a little uncomfortable to play. and lower pitch here
01:15:454 - personal preference, but (dddd)k is weird. having dddk instead works better for me and id say most players? but im not sure
01:42:654 - ^
01:50:854 - is the green line here on purpose? if it was here 01:50:654 - it would work fine too.
02:06:654 - no 1/6?
02:41:654 (754) - i dont think finisher is needed, the finisher sound is good enough on this note 02:41:454 (753) -
02:54:454 - this looks cool :3
03:26:354 - this feels better if it is 1/4 triple starting on the red tick.
04:37:154 (104,105) - maybe delete these 2, there is a pause in the music. if you do that then i think there should be a note here 04:37:454 -
04:53:154 (248) - delete? to give more emphasis on this stream 04:53:254 -
05:20:554 (503,504,505) - very quiet here, maybe dont use finisher or SV
05:27:454 - kddk 1/6?
06:00:254 (17) - k , 06:01:054 (19) - d , (small detail but fits better)


wow.. i like modding v2 better lol
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity
~new sv diff~

https://puu.sh/zjPcf/1259af3e60.osu
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Curiossity wrote:

~new sv diff~

https://puu.sh/zjPcf/1259af3e60.osu
Nice SV :D

Astolfo wrote:

here for taiko :3

general: none

map:

00:39:254 (81) - k? for high vocal I keep because of the dkd dkd pattern. I use it quite often in these parts
00:59:454 (196) - d, i think K K k is a little uncomfortable to play. and lower pitch here Change to D instead for consistency with later parts.
01:15:454 - personal preference, but (dddd)k is weird. having dddk instead works better for me and id say most players? but im not sure They are mapped for the progression of harder 1/6s
01:42:654 - ^ Same as above
01:50:854 - is the green line here on purpose? if it was here 01:50:654 - it would work fine too. I want all the big notes in the kiai stay a high SV, so I mapped like this
02:06:654 - no 1/6? The 1/6 here is not obvious and it would be too straining for players as it is going to another kiai
02:41:654 (754) - i dont think finisher is needed, the finisher sound is good enough on this note 02:41:454 (753) - It is to be consistent with the previous parts
02:54:454 - this looks cool :3 Thanks :D
03:26:354 - this feels better if it is 1/4 triple starting on the red tick. Changed to start at the first blue tick.
04:37:154 (104,105) - maybe delete these 2, there is a pause in the music. if you do that then i think there should be a note here 04:37:454 - I don't think so. I make pauses here when every melody sound sustains/breaks.
04:53:154 (248) - delete? to give more emphasis on this stream 04:53:254 - Nice catch
05:20:554 (503,504,505) - very quiet here, maybe dont use finisher or SV Again. I want it to be consistent.
05:27:454 - kddk 1/6? I use 1/6s here at specific locations. In this case, I choose not to include it
06:00:254 (17) - k , 06:01:054 (19) - d , (small detail but fits better) I think it is fine because I purposely mapped kk dk dk kk dk dk... to make it more fun to play.


wow.. i like modding v2 better lol
Thanks for the mod :D
Otosaka-Yu
1,119 posts
Joined August 2013
Otosaka-Yu
star~
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
* 00:53:054 - finish this, to give a significant alteration
* 01:43:754 - kat, same as above on reason. 01:43:854 - to emphasis this note alteration
* 01:45:654 - 01:47:254 - 01:46:454 (323,324,325) - and 01:48:054 (336,337,338) - how about kkd these? you seem applied something not monotone overall
* 01:52:054 - 01:52:854 (373,374,375) - 01:53:654 - its time for kkd to shine! and.. 01:54:454 - kkdk maybe from here?
* 01:55:554 - don and 01:55:954 - kat
* 02:29:854 - and 02:30:654 - ^
* 02:31:454 - don maybe, symmetry alteration
* 02:35:454 - finish and this part from here is.. pasta pasta.. fine fine
* 02:40:854 - dd(kkkd)
* 02:48:254 - this part from here, I saw 5plet.. maybe try to make it as 3plet concept, because 5plet seems over to mapped. example by deleting every 02:48:554 - second notes from each 5plet

ok just it, selfmod to check if there are notes which you forgot to add such finisher
good luck
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Surono wrote:

* 00:53:054 - finish this, to give a significant alteration
* 01:43:754 - kat, same as above on reason. 01:43:854 - to emphasis this note alteration yes
* 01:45:654 - 01:47:254 - 01:46:454 (323,324,325) - and 01:48:054 (336,337,338) - how about kkd these? you seem applied something not monotone overall yes
* 01:52:054 - 01:52:854 (373,374,375) - 01:53:654 - its time for kkd to shine! and.. 01:54:454 - kkdk maybe from here? yes also changed some of the other parts
* 01:55:554 - don and 01:55:954 - kat Changed differently
* 02:29:854 - and 02:30:654 - ^ My mistake. Done the change
* 02:31:454 - don maybe, symmetry alteration ^
* 02:35:454 - finish and this part from here is.. pasta pasta.. fine fine ^
* 02:40:854 - dd(kkkd) Changed
* 02:48:254 - this part from here, I saw 5plet.. maybe try to make it as 3plet concept, because 5plet seems over to mapped. example by deleting every 02:48:554 - second notes from each 5plet Changed differently again

ok just it, selfmod to check if there are notes which you forgot to add such finisher
good luck
Surono
7,196 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
👌

for
01:43:854 -
02:33:854 -
04:54:654 -
there 2 timelines at same time, delete one of them ( x1,00 ) each timestamps
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity

Surono wrote:

👌

for
01:43:854 -
02:33:854 -
04:54:654 -
there 2 timelines at same time, delete one of them ( x1,00 ) each timestamps

aye aye captain

new .osu: https://puu.sh/zVOjC/cc1e2e3f49.osu
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa

Surono wrote:

👌

for
01:43:854 -
02:33:854 -
04:54:654 -
there 2 timelines at same time, delete one of them ( x1,00 ) each timestamps
Aye Thanks
Got so used to V2 and forgot the kudos rule eww
Shima Rin
1,304 posts
Joined March 2015
Shima Rin
4K:1|2|3|4


[Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage]
  1. 00:27:654 - 00:31:454 - 00:32:054 - 00:33:054 - As for consistency, I think you need double notes for these points to represent the vocal sounds.

  2. 00:36:654 (36654|1,36654|2,37054|0,37054|2,37054|3,37254|3,37254|1,37454|2,37454|0,37654|3,37654|1) - Actually I would prefer you to make them into single so you can keep your focus rather on the vocals throughout this part, which adds to consistency here.-

  3. 00:37:854 - 00:38:054 - 00:38:454 - 00:39:054 - Then for these points, you can have double notes for vocal.

  4. 00:39:254 - And you don't need double here.

  5. 00:43:254 - 00:46:654 - 00:51:654 - 00:52:054 - More places to make things into double notes for vocal.

  6. 00:52:454 (52454|3,52454|0,52520|2) - I think the snap here should not be like that if you use double for vocal. Instead, the double should be placed on 00:52:587 - , 1/6 snap, where the vocal really starts, so I would suggest you try this pattern: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10854556

  7. 00:56:954 (56954|2,57054|1,57154|2,57254|1,57354|2,57454|1) - 00:58:554 (58554|1,58654|2,58754|1,58854|2,58854|0,58954|1,58954|3) - I don't really think you need such stacks at the beginning part of this map. Try to rearrange them a bit.

  8. 01:05:054 (65054|3,65354|3) - LN end on 1/8 makes less sense than ending them to 1/4 as they are the right place where the sounds stop. 01:05:654 (65654|3) - For this you can have some difference but I'd prefer 1/4 for simplification.

  9. 01:06:254 (66254|1,66354|1) - Move to col[1] so you can use each column for a jack for once in this bar.

  10. Better change 01:09:854 - to 01:09:854 - to the same patterns as 01:11:454 - to 01:12:254 - for more variation but not random since you are using different patterns each for twice.

  11. As you can see, from 01:15:454 - you are first using rolls to the left, and then 01:15:854 - right, so I would suggest 01:16:254 - here to use left roll and then 01:16:654 - right roll for balance.

  12. 01:18:654 - Some general problem for me starts from here. As I go through this buildup part, the patterns are rather too repetitive for me. As you can see, those continuous jacks are already very challenging, so I wonder if you really can rearrange a bit to mix more patterns into it, like you can move 01:18:954 (78954|1,78954|0) - this kind of double notes to col[2][3], or you can do them to col[1][4]. It is better for you to use patterns that repeats for twice but not four times to actually reduce a bit on the pressure about the original patterns and have more varieties into your map.It continues until 01:37:454 -

  13. 01:43:054 (103054|3,103104|1) - ctrl+h so that from 01:43:054 - to 01:43:454 - you can have all your notes rolling to the right.

  14. 01:43:754 (103754|0,103804|1) - Also, ctrl+g so that you can then have notes rolling to the left for the next interval between white lines. Maybe then you can move 01:43:604 (103604|1) - to col[1] for consistency.

  15. 01:44:254 - This whole kiai has some similar problems with 01:18:654 -, as the stacks are repeated for a bit too many times that really add unnecessary pressure to the players. I think you can do something similar as before too, like mixing more patterns and making them repeating for twice each.

  16. 01:50:654 - Double note fits better here as no C sound is present.

  17. 02:03:454 - Same as above. You can delete this LN 02:03:454 (123454|0) - instead.

  18. 02:06:654 - Something similar as previous rolls. Better making them rolling to one direction between one interval formed by white lines, and then to the inverse for the next.

  19. 02:35:454 - Still similar problem as before. Non-kiai is even much harder than kiai.02:35:554 (155554|1,155954|2,156354|1,156754|2,157154|1,157554|3,158754|2,159154|1,159554|2,159954|1,160754|0,161554|1,161954|2,162354|3,162754|1,163154|3,163554|2,163954|0,165154|0,165554|2,165954|1,166354|2,167154|0,167954|1) - These notes first can be deleted as they are not the major part of the music here. Besides, you don't need those double stacks at all in my opinion, as the drums here don't have such big impact that requires emphasis from the stacks. This ends at 02:48:254 -

  20. 03:04:254 - 03:07:454 - 03:11:454 - 03:13:854 - 03:14:654 - 03:17:054 - 03:17:854 - 03:20:254 - 03:21:054 - 03:21:854 - 03:22:654 - 03:23:454 - 03:24:254 - 03:25:054 - If you really wanna emphasize, double notes are enough.

  21. 03:26:387 (206387|1,206454|2) - How about moving these notes to col[1] and col[2] and then 03:26:254 (206254|2) - make this into a LN that ends at 03:26:654 - ? It resembles what you did for 00:52:654 (52654|1) -

I will continue my check later. I think the map really needs some improvements in its variety and hand balance Since it is a very challenging map, you have to always consider about these elements and mix basic patterns to avoid overly repetitive parts. Good luck!
Curiossity
272 posts
Joined May 2015
Curiossity

Tofu1222 wrote:

4K:1|2|3|4


[Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage]
  1. 00:27:654 - 00:31:454 - 00:32:054 - 00:33:054 - As for consistency, I think you need double notes for these points to represent the vocal sounds. sure, applied most. for a few of them, adding a double would have made the 4 note stream a bit messy, and i feel there wasn't enough to emphasize with a double.

  2. 00:36:654 (36654|1,36654|2,37054|0,37054|2,37054|3,37254|3,37254|1,37454|2,37454|0,37654|3,37654|1) - Actually I would prefer you to make them into single so you can keep your focus rather on the vocals throughout this part, which adds to consistency here.- okay

  3. 00:37:854 - 00:38:054 - 00:38:454 - 00:39:054 - Then for these points, you can have double notes for vocal. fixed all but first and last. for first, i think that it's more important to emphasize the note after, since the vocals don't really do anything there, but i added a note. for the last one, i think the main emphasis on the word is one beat later instead.

  4. 00:39:254 - And you don't need double here. see last point, i think there's more emphasis here instead

  5. 00:43:254 - 00:46:654 - 00:51:654 - 00:52:054 - More places to make things into double notes for vocal. accepted some, but in some places i think the instruments and vocals aren't loud enough to make it a double

  6. 00:52:454 (52454|3,52454|0,52520|2) - I think the snap here should not be like that if you use double for vocal. Instead, the double should be placed on 00:52:587 - , 1/6 snap, where the vocal really starts, so I would suggest you try this pattern: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10854556 eh, i don't think it starts there... pretty sure it starts on the white line.

  7. 00:56:954 (56954|2,57054|1,57154|2,57254|1,57354|2,57454|1) - 00:58:554 (58554|1,58654|2,58754|1,58854|2,58854|0,58954|1,58954|3) - I don't really think you need such stacks at the beginning part of this map. Try to rearrange them a bit. conversely, i believe that they add a nice element to the map of a somewhat 'back and forth' rhythm. just streams here would be boring, and the jungle drums end up playing quite nicely with the stacks/trills/current patterns.

  8. 01:05:054 (65054|3,65354|3) - LN end on 1/8 makes less sense than ending them to 1/4 as they are the right place where the sounds stop. 01:05:654 (65654|3) - For this you can have some difference but I'd prefer 1/4 for simplification. i think i see what you mean. i just tried to do this for some consistency since the sounds are the same, but i'll see what i can do.

  9. 01:06:254 (66254|1,66354|1) - Move to col[1] so you can use each column for a jack for once in this bar. oops good catch

  10. Better change 01:09:854 - to 01:09:854 - to the same patterns as 01:11:454 - to 01:12:254 - for more variation but not random since you are using different patterns each for twice. added variation, and tried to follow some sort of pattern that you mentioned.

  11. As you can see, from 01:15:454 - you are first using rolls to the left, and then 01:15:854 - right, so I would suggest 01:16:254 - here to use left roll and then 01:16:654 - right roll for balance. i made some changes to get closer to what you asked for

  12. 01:18:654 - Some general problem for me starts from here. As I go through this buildup part, the patterns are rather too repetitive for me. As you can see, those continuous jacks are already very challenging, so I wonder if you really can rearrange a bit to mix more patterns into it, like you can move 01:18:954 (78954|1,78954|0) - this kind of double notes to col[2][3], or you can do them to col[1][4]. It is better for you to use patterns that repeats for twice but not four times to actually reduce a bit on the pressure about the original patterns and have more varieties into your map.It continues until 01:37:454 - i did as you asked, made the patterns only repeat twice. feels a lot better now, thanks

  13. 01:43:054 (103054|3,103104|1) - ctrl+h so that from 01:43:054 - to 01:43:454 - you can have all your notes rolling to the right. i made some changes here, good call

  14. 01:43:754 (103754|0,103804|1) - Also, ctrl+g so that you can then have notes rolling to the left for the next interval between white lines. Maybe then you can move 01:43:604 (103604|1) - to col[1] for consistency. fixed i think

  15. 01:44:254 - This whole kiai has some similar problems with 01:18:654 -, as the stacks are repeated for a bit too many times that really add unnecessary pressure to the players. I think you can do something similar as before too, like mixing more patterns and making them repeating for twice each. aye, fixed like the prev. part you mentioned

  16. 01:50:654 - Double note fits better here as no C sound is present. nah, i think a triple suits it better as it's a heavy sound regardless.

  17. 02:03:454 - Same as above. You can delete this LN 02:03:454 (123454|0) - instead. same as above, i think the sound is strong enough to require a triple

  18. 02:06:654 - Something similar as previous rolls. Better making them rolling to one direction between one interval formed by white lines, and then to the inverse for the next. i split up the direction between intervals of two white ticks, but still much better than before

  19. 02:35:454 - Still similar problem as before. Non-kiai is even much harder than kiai.02:35:554 (155554|1,155954|2,156354|1,156754|2,157154|1,157554|3,158754|2,159154|1,159554|2,159954|1,160754|0,161554|1,161954|2,162354|3,162754|1,163154|3,163554|2,163954|0,165154|0,165554|2,165954|1,166354|2,167154|0,167954|1) - These notes first can be deleted as they are not the major part of the music here. Besides, you don't need those double stacks at all in my opinion, as the drums here don't have such big impact that requires emphasis from the stacks. This ends at 02:48:254 - I did end up removing all the triple jacks in this part, but i still kept the double stacks as i think there's still enough going on to make it reasonable. i want to keep up the intensity going into this part, as the driving kick is still quite intense as well.

  20. 03:04:254 - 03:07:454 - 03:11:454 - 03:13:854 - 03:14:654 - 03:17:054 - 03:17:854 - 03:20:254 - 03:21:054 - 03:21:854 - 03:22:654 - 03:23:454 - 03:24:254 - 03:25:054 - If you really wanna emphasize, double notes are enough. yup, fixed all

  21. 03:26:387 (206387|1,206454|2) - How about moving these notes to col[1] and col[2] and then 03:26:254 (206254|2) - make this into a LN that ends at 03:26:654 - ? It resembles what you did for 00:52:654 (52654|1) - alrighty, i made some pattern changes to make it a bit better.


I will continue my check later. I think the map really needs some improvements in its variety and hand balance Since it is a very challenging map, you have to always consider about these elements and mix basic patterns to avoid overly repetitive parts. Good luck!
Thanks for the mod! I definitely appreciated the changes you suggested to both the rolls and the sections with triple jacks. I went ahead and propogated those changes to the rest of the map, and also made some pattern improvements in the second half - hopefully the map gets updated before you continue.

~ New .osu file: https://puu.sh/AfsDn/3b70e0d298.osu ~
Faputa
osu! Alumni
1,081 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Faputa
Updated!
Shima Rin
1,304 posts
Joined March 2015
Shima Rin
4K:1|2|3|4


[Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage]
  1. 00:37:854 - Double for vocal.

  2. 00:44:254 - 00:44:854 - 00:45:854 - You have doubles here but not 00:31:454 - 00:32:054 - and 00:33:054 - .These are essentially the same music going, so please double check the consistency of note-catch and note amount used in these two similar parts.You might also need to add a few notes such as on 00:44:454 - to be consistent with the previous part as well.

  3. 01:25:654 (85654|2,85654|1,85754|1,85754|2) - Shouldn't you repeat this pattern first then going to 01:26:054 (86054|3,86054|0,86154|0,86154|3) - , just like the previous patterns? Also, 01:28:454 (88454|1,88454|0,88554|0,88554|1,88854|2,88854|0,88954|0,88954|2) - Why you suddenly change to another one? It just doesn't follow a good consistency here.

  4. 01:34:854 - Same inconsistent thing goes from here.Well things should be grouped in 4 first, so like, 01:36:054 (96054|1,96154|1) - these two should be on col[1].

  5. 03:37:054 - Double for vocal.

  6. 03:41:454 (221454|1,221454|3) - Just single should be enough since no sound actually needs to be emphasized here.

  7. 03:47:054 - ^

  8. 03:55:554 - I think from here you can try something like this to more accurately follow the music: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10912949

  9. 04:03:354 - For consistency you should have a W hitsound and a double here.

  10. 04:07:454 (247454|3,247454|1,247554|3,247554|1,247654|0,247654|2,247754|0,247754|2,247854|3,247854|1,247954|3,247954|1,248054|0,248054|2,248154|0,248154|2) - 04:09:054 (249054|2,249054|1,249154|2,249154|1,249254|3,249254|0,249354|0,249354|3,249454|2,249454|1,249554|1,249554|2,249654|3,249654|0,249754|3,249754|0) - I don't mean it'
    s wrong, but using such tiring jacks inside this long jumptrill part really makes it not suitable for a build-up part for the second-kiai. These kinds of jacks are some of the most exhausting kinds.

  11. 04:27:454 (267454|0,267554|0,267654|0,267804|0,267954|0,268104|0) - 04:27:554 (267554|3,267704|3,267854|3,267954|3,268054|3,268204|3,268354|3,268504|3) - Can you rearrange this part a bit to avoid these imbalance?

  12. 04:37:454 - Add W.

  13. 04:49:454 - I would suggest delete C here cuz the drum isn't like W+C.

  14. 04:54:654 - Maybe add a C?

Patterns of latter half part looks way better. Call me back when everything is replied. Also I would strongly suggest you to double check the hitsounds in the map as a whole, and be aware of the consistency of the calm vocal part in the beginning and in the middle.

To Faputa: Do you have metadata proof?
show more
Please sign in to reply.

New reply

0
1 / 76