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Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi [Taiko|OsuMania]

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Faputa
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年5月15日 at 23:40:18

Artist: Camellia
Title: Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi
Tags: Ethnic Chemical Technology うごうゴウ かめるかめりあ Kamel INVAIDAS FROM DA JUNGLE cametek 大箭将也 masaya oya kamelcamellia drumstep dubstep trance psytrance psystyle Curiossity
BPM: 150
Filesize: 10245kb
Play Time: 06:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Jungle Invasion (6.74 stars, 2290 notes)
  2. Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage - 4Key (5.48 stars, 4708 notes)


Download: Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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6th set of taiko, + a mania diff

Difficulties available:
Jungle Invasion (Taiko) created by me!
Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage (OsuMania) created by Curiossity!



For approved.
Metadata check: http://cametek.jp/jungle/


Thanks for all the modders and testplayers
Thanks Mykaterasu for letting me use some of his hitsounds in his map of also this song.

Backfire
22:51 Backfire: so lik
22:51 Backfire: e
22:51 Backfire: pattern needs to focus on the horn
22:51 Backfire: so like
22:51 Backfire: the pattern you never used
22:51 Backfire: which fits the best
22:51 Backfire: =
22:51 Backfire: ddkkkkd
22:51 Faputa: yea thats why I'm thinking rn
22:51 Faputa: what*
22:51 Backfire: 05:23:654 -
22:51 Backfire: and on here
22:52 Backfire: ddkkkkdkdkkdkkd
22:52 Backfire: as a stream
22:52 Backfire: And then
22:52 Backfire: you can switch up on next group
22:52 Backfire: with
22:52 Backfire: 05:25:254 -
22:52 Backfire: ddkdkkk
22:52 Backfire: etc
22:52 Faputa: let me see
22:53 Backfire: 05:26:854 -
22:53 Backfire: ddkdkk(dddk)kd
22:53 Backfire: the 1/6 where it is at
22:53 Backfire: does not fit
22:53 Backfire: I think next group of notes is cool, the dkddkdk
22:53 Backfire: still focuses on the horn
22:53 Backfire: enough
22:54 Backfire: 05:30:654 -
22:54 Backfire: but make this a stream too
22:54 Backfire: imo
22:54 Faputa: k
22:54 Backfire: 705:31:654 -
22:55 Backfire: well
22:55 Backfire: you might get accused of pp boosting but
22:55 Backfire: dd(kddk)kd?
22:55 Backfire: or even just dd(kkkk)kd
22:55 Backfire: might be interesting
22:55 Backfire: its different sound than the original ddkkkkd
22:55 Backfire: ya know?
22:55 Faputa: yea the horn sound kinda like 1/6
22:55 Backfire: mhm
22:56 Faputa: or its faded faster
22:56 Faputa: and higher in pitch
22:56 Backfire: 05:33:254 - dd(kkkk)k(dddk)kd
22:56 Backfire: it is higher in pitch but
22:56 Backfire: still could be excused
22:56 Backfire: something like that
22:56 Backfire: but thats up to you
22:56 Backfire: the rest is basically fine
22:56 Backfire: since the horn fades out a bit
22:56 Backfire: is it cool if I do this as an irc log?
22:57 Backfire: if you decide to apply the mods
22:57 Faputa: sure
22:57 Backfire: cool
22:57 Backfire: I want kudosu lmao
22:57 Faputa: I applied because the original ver. isn't good enough
22:57 Backfire: I think this is a fantastic map tho
22:57 Backfire: I really like it
22:57 Faputa: ye xD
22:57 Backfire: I hope you get it ranked
22:58 Faputa: thanks
22:58 Backfire: yw
Topic Starter
Faputa

Backfire wrote:

22:51 Backfire: so lik
22:51 Backfire: e
22:51 Backfire: pattern needs to focus on the horn
22:51 Backfire: so like
22:51 Backfire: the pattern you never used
22:51 Backfire: which fits the best
22:51 Backfire: =
22:51 Backfire: ddkkkkd
22:51 Faputa: yea thats why I'm thinking rn
22:51 Faputa: what*
22:51 Backfire: 05:23:654 -
22:51 Backfire: and on here
22:52 Backfire: ddkkkkdkdkkdkkd
22:52 Backfire: as a stream
22:52 Backfire: And then
22:52 Backfire: you can switch up on next group
22:52 Backfire: with
22:52 Backfire: 05:25:254 -
22:52 Backfire: ddkdkkk
22:52 Backfire: etc
22:52 Faputa: let me see
22:53 Backfire: 05:26:854 -
22:53 Backfire: ddkdkk(dddk)kd
22:53 Backfire: the 1/6 where it is at
22:53 Backfire: does not fit
22:53 Backfire: I think next group of notes is cool, the dkddkdk
22:53 Backfire: still focuses on the horn
22:53 Backfire: enough
22:54 Backfire: 05:30:654 -
22:54 Backfire: but make this a stream too
22:54 Backfire: imo
22:54 Faputa: k
22:54 Backfire: 705:31:654 -
22:55 Backfire: well
22:55 Backfire: you might get accused of pp boosting but
22:55 Backfire: dd(kddk)kd?
22:55 Backfire: or even just dd(kkkk)kd
22:55 Backfire: might be interesting
22:55 Backfire: its different sound than the original ddkkkkd
22:55 Backfire: ya know?
22:55 Faputa: yea the horn sound kinda like 1/6
22:55 Backfire: mhm
22:56 Faputa: or its faded faster
22:56 Faputa: and higher in pitch
22:56 Backfire: 05:33:254 - dd(kkkk)k(dddk)kd
22:56 Backfire: it is higher in pitch but
22:56 Backfire: still could be excused
22:56 Backfire: something like that
22:56 Backfire: but thats up to you
22:56 Backfire: the rest is basically fine
22:56 Backfire: since the horn fades out a bit
22:56 Backfire: is it cool if I do this as an irc log?
22:57 Backfire: if you decide to apply the mods
22:57 Faputa: sure
22:57 Backfire: cool
22:57 Backfire: I want kudosu lmao
22:57 Faputa: I applied because the original ver. isn't good enough
22:57 Backfire: I think this is a fantastic map tho
22:57 Backfire: I really like it
22:57 Faputa: ye xD
22:57 Backfire: I hope you get it ranked
22:58 Faputa: thanks
22:58 Backfire: yw
Thanks for the mod, it helps a lot :)
Protonori
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are only suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Jungle Invasion]
01:04:454 - Switch this pattern with the one at 01:02:854? I think it works better, since you use 8 consecutive kats after the spinner.

01:29:554 (170,171,172,173) - kddk to emphasize last note?

01:55:154 (392,393,394,395) - Change to kdkd? The next pattern uses kdkdk, so I think the transition would be better.

02:52:854 (842) - Change to d? It would be a good transition for the doubles at 02:53:254.

05:26:854 - You used a 15-note stream at 05:23:654, so consider extending this for consistency.

05:37:554 (870,871,872,873) - Use dkkd like you did at 05:24:754 (757,758,759,760) and 05:40:754 (895,896,897,898)? The same sound is played here.

05:43:654 (917,918,919,920,921,922,923) - Use kkkdddk? The sound is different here, so you might want to use a different pattern.

This is a really fun map to play through! :)
Good luck with ranking it~
Topic Starter
Faputa

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are only suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Jungle Invasion]
01:04:454 - Switch this pattern with the one at 01:02:854? I think it works better, since you use 8 consecutive kats after the spinner.

01:29:554 (170,171,172,173) - kddk to emphasize last note?

01:55:154 (392,393,394,395) - Change to kdkd? The next pattern uses kdkdk, so I think the transition would be better. Current sounding is better I think and there should be difficulty hitting the next set of notes so keep

02:52:854 (842) - Change to d? It would be a good transition for the doubles at 02:53:254.

05:26:854 - You used a 15-note stream at 05:23:654, so consider extending this for consistency.

05:37:554 (870,871,872,873) - Use dkkd like you did at 05:24:754 (757,758,759,760) and 05:40:754 (895,896,897,898)? The same sound is played here.


05:43:654 (917,918,919,920,921,922,923) - Use kkkdddk? The sound is different here, so you might want to use a different pattern. for consistency with kkkkk pattern so keep.

This is a really fun map to play through! :)
Good luck with ranking it~
Thanks for the mod!! :)
Consified
Consified's disgusting irc log

22:10 Consified: da
22:11 Consified: i'd like to talk about the stream
22:11 Consified: shall we talk
22:11 Faputa: ya, 04:27:454 (247) - do you think I should change to dddkkkdddkkk...
22:12 Consified: 01:15:454 -
22:12 Consified: 04:27:454 (247) -
22:12 Consified: use same pattern
22:12 Consified: my engarish sucks so i use chinese
22:12 Consified: 果兩個地方1/6嘅聲音好相似
22:12 Faputa: k
22:13 Consified: 同埋成首個得呢度有1/6stream我覺得好怪 lol
22:14 Consified: ^全1/6stream
22:14 Faputa: 那麽,
22:15 Faputa: 這裏跟那裏一樣?
22:15 Consified: yes
22:16 Consified: 用kkkd d kkkd嘅stream啦
22:16 Consified: 跟翻前面次序
22:17 Faputa: 那如果我想這裏難一些呢? :3 ,這裏的音樂其實跟intense
22:17 Consified: 7 1 7 1?
22:17 Faputa: 7 1 7 1 1/6?
22:18 Consified: dddkkkd d kkkdddk k dddkkkd
22:18 Faputa: 好像不錯:3
22:19 Consified: 呢度04:27:454 (247) -
22:19 Consified: 你可以去睇一睇Ranked左嘅exit this earth's atmosphere
22:19 Consified: sor wrong timeline lolool
22:19 Consified: 01:12:254 -
22:20 Faputa: 有一些不同的地方嗎?
22:20 Consified: 唔好擺kkkkkkkkdddddddd呢類嘅stream 咁樣好悶
22:21 Faputa: 嗯,
22:21 Consified: 可以用例如dkddkkdk呢d pattern
22:22 Faputa: 後段差不多地方的也是這樣吧?
22:22 Consified: 對
22:23 Faputa: 嗯。
22:23 Consified: wa
22:23 Faputa: 04:05:054 (29) - 那這裏呢?
22:23 Consified: SliderMultiplier:1.6
22:23 Faputa: for 1/6 actually
22:24 Faputa: 太貼
22:24 Faputa: 而且,BPM 150很尷尬
22:24 Consified: 可以用綠線隔
22:24 Consified: 呢d遲d先ww
22:25 Faputa: RC沒禁止1.6 www 先放著吧xD
22:26 Consified: 04:05:054 (29) - 呢度我會擺kddkddkdkddkddkd類似咁樣嘅stream
22:26 Faputa: or freestyle跟melody音位置?
22:27 Consified: 點freestyle :thinking:
22:27 Faputa: melody落的位置 owo
22:28 *Consified confused
22:28 Faputa: 不過你的那個比較好,
22:28 *Faputa 用consified的提議
22:28 Consified: 個stream我會擺 kddkddkd 同 dkkdkkdk
22:30 Faputa: 嗯,好
22:32 Consified: 超車個sv可唔可以調慢;w;
22:33 Faputa: xD 你想幾慢
22:33 Consified: 唔好超
22:33 *Consified runs
22:34 *Faputa ( o=^•ェ•)o ┏━┓
22:34 Faputa: 1.10x?
22:34 Consified: 可以試試
22:36 Consified: 如果你想rank Camellia就最好唔好超
22:36 Consified: 我聽落去個音樂係順住落
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x好似很正
22:37 Consified: 唔似Bassdrop果首咁變態
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x做最後的kiai岩岩好
22:38 Consified: 一陣我試下
22:39 Faputa: 瘋狂DT xDD
22:39 Consified: www
22:39 Faputa: 我衹有疲累的老去手指
22:39 Consified: Disable CountDown
22:39 Consified: You put a tick there
22:39 Faputa: wha,奇怪,
22:40 Faputa: 好了
22:40 Faputa: 如果沒有問題我先update一下
22:40 Consified: OD6?
22:40 Consified: 因為BPM150 OD冇必要咁緊
22:41 Faputa: 嗯,這首比exit from... 慢一些,好吧
22:41 Consified: @@
22:42 Consified: can i put this log in forum
22:42 Faputa: 當然,沒人敢mod這個圖。。
22:42 Consified: everyone fuck camellia
22:42 Consified: \:D/
Topic Starter
Faputa

Consified wrote:

Consified's disgusting irc log

22:10 Consified: da
22:11 Consified: i'd like to talk about the stream
22:11 Consified: shall we talk
22:11 Faputa: ya, 04:27:454 (247) - do you think I should change to dddkkkdddkkk...
22:12 Consified: 01:15:454 -
22:12 Consified: 04:27:454 (247) -
22:12 Consified: use same pattern
22:12 Consified: my engarish sucks so i use chinese
22:12 Consified: 果兩個地方1/6嘅聲音好相似
22:12 Faputa: k
22:13 Consified: 同埋成首個得呢度有1/6stream我覺得好怪 lol
22:14 Consified: ^全1/6stream
22:14 Faputa: 那麽,
22:15 Faputa: 這裏跟那裏一樣?
22:15 Consified: yes
22:16 Consified: 用kkkd d kkkd嘅stream啦
22:16 Consified: 跟翻前面次序
22:17 Faputa: 那如果我想這裏難一些呢? :3 ,這裏的音樂其實跟intense
22:17 Consified: 7 1 7 1?
22:17 Faputa: 7 1 7 1 1/6?
22:18 Consified: dddkkkd d kkkdddk k dddkkkd
22:18 Faputa: 好像不錯:3
22:19 Consified: 呢度04:27:454 (247) -
22:19 Consified: 你可以去睇一睇Ranked左嘅exit this earth's atmosphere
22:19 Consified: sor wrong timeline lolool
22:19 Consified: 01:12:254 -
22:20 Faputa: 有一些不同的地方嗎?
22:20 Consified: 唔好擺kkkkkkkkdddddddd呢類嘅stream 咁樣好悶
22:21 Faputa: 嗯,
22:21 Consified: 可以用例如dkddkkdk呢d pattern
22:22 Faputa: 後段差不多地方的也是這樣吧?
22:22 Consified: 對
22:23 Faputa: 嗯。
22:23 Consified: wa
22:23 Faputa: 04:05:054 (29) - 那這裏呢?
22:23 Consified: SliderMultiplier:1.6
22:23 Faputa: for 1/6 actually
22:24 Faputa: 太貼
22:24 Faputa: 而且,BPM 150很尷尬
22:24 Consified: 可以用綠線隔
22:24 Consified: 呢d遲d先ww
22:25 Faputa: RC沒禁止1.6 www 先放著吧xD
22:26 Consified: 04:05:054 (29) - 呢度我會擺kddkddkdkddkddkd類似咁樣嘅stream
22:26 Faputa: or freestyle跟melody音位置?
22:27 Consified: 點freestyle :thinking:
22:27 Faputa: melody落的位置 owo
22:28 *Consified confused
22:28 Faputa: 不過你的那個比較好,
22:28 *Faputa 用consified的提議
22:28 Consified: 個stream我會擺 kddkddkd 同 dkkdkkdk
22:30 Faputa: 嗯,好
22:32 Consified: 超車個sv可唔可以調慢;w;
22:33 Faputa: xD 你想幾慢
22:33 Consified: 唔好超
22:33 *Consified runs
22:34 *Faputa ( o=^•ェ•)o ┏━┓
22:34 Faputa: 1.10x?
22:34 Consified: 可以試試
22:36 Consified: 如果你想rank Camellia就最好唔好超
22:36 Consified: 我聽落去個音樂係順住落
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x好似很正
22:37 Consified: 唔似Bassdrop果首咁變態
22:37 Faputa: 1.10x做最後的kiai岩岩好
22:38 Consified: 一陣我試下
22:39 Faputa: 瘋狂DT xDD
22:39 Consified: www
22:39 Faputa: 我衹有疲累的老去手指
22:39 Consified: Disable CountDown
22:39 Consified: You put a tick there
22:39 Faputa: wha,奇怪,
22:40 Faputa: 好了
22:40 Faputa: 如果沒有問題我先update一下
22:40 Consified: OD6?
22:40 Consified: 因為BPM150 OD冇必要咁緊
22:41 Faputa: 嗯,這首比exit from... 慢一些,好吧
22:41 Consified: @@
22:42 Consified: can i put this log in forum
22:42 Faputa: 當然,沒人敢mod這個圖。。
22:42 Consified: everyone fuck camellia
22:42 Consified: \:D/
Thanks for your gone-Chinese-irc mod! :)
Consified
Oi Wrong Artist name wor
かみりあ -> かめりあ
Topic Starter
Faputa

Consified wrote:

Oi Wrong Artist name wor
かみりあ -> かめりあ
Whaaaa
Akali
it's not dnb, change tags to trance/psytrance/psystyle
Topic Starter
Faputa

Akali wrote:

it's not dnb, change tags to trance/psytrance/psystyle
Ok, thanks.
Topic Starter
Faputa
Added Kuriossiti's Jungle Karnage (OsuMania mode) created by Curiossity. :3
riunosk
helo
from my queue
1234
modding mania diff
00:49:254 (49254|2,49454|2,49654|2,49854|2) - intended anchor?
01:04:054 (64054|2,64254|2,64454|2,64654|2) - ^
01:16:004 (76004|0,76154|0,76304|0,76454|0) - ^
01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - ^
01:43:204 (103204|2,103354|2,103504|2,103654|2,103804|2) - ^
03:04:254 (184254|1,184254|0,184254|3) - imo i feel a triple is a tad bit too strong for this sound
03:07:454 (187454|3,187454|1,187454|0) - ^
03:11:454 (191454|2,191454|0,191454|3) - ^
03:13:854 (193854|0,193854|1,193854|3) - ^
03:14:654 (194654|3,194654|2,194654|0) - ^
and so on for this section
03:48:454 (228454|2,228654|2,228854|2,229054|2) - intended anchor?
04:19:454 (259454|2,259604|2,259754|2,259904|2,260054|2) - ^
04:28:054 (268054|2,268054|3) - this seems out of place for some reason, like it doesn't really flow with the rest
Decent chart, look out for anchors in the 1/8 bursts though
gud luk for renk
Curiossity

riunosk wrote:

helo
from my queue
1234
modding mania diff
00:49:254 (49254|2,49454|2,49654|2,49854|2) - intended anchor? yeah, for the vocals kinda
01:04:054 (64054|2,64254|2,64454|2,64654|2) - ^ i mean, no, but i'm not sure if it's that bad
01:16:004 (76004|0,76154|0,76304|0,76454|0) - ^ i think anchors of four are okay, tbh, other wise we limit the patterns possible
01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - ^
01:43:204 (103204|2,103354|2,103504|2,103654|2,103804|2) - ^ fixed
03:04:254 (184254|1,184254|0,184254|3) - imo i feel a triple is a tad bit too strong for this sound i think in this context it's okay, as the sound it's representing doesn't feel like it deserves only a double
03:07:454 (187454|3,187454|1,187454|0) - ^
03:11:454 (191454|2,191454|0,191454|3) - ^
03:13:854 (193854|0,193854|1,193854|3) - ^
03:14:654 (194654|3,194654|2,194654|0) - ^
and so on for this section yeah, the triples will probably stay, just because there's not much else going on.
03:48:454 (228454|2,228654|2,228854|2,229054|2) - intended anchor? yup
04:19:454 (259454|2,259604|2,259754|2,259904|2,260054|2) - ^ fixed
04:28:054 (268054|2,268054|3) - this seems out of place for some reason, like it doesn't really flow with the rest alright, rearranged a bit. although, how the pattern plays doesn't really change but it looks nicer at least
Decent chart, look out for anchors in the 1/8 bursts though
gud luk for renk
thanks for the mod!

.osu:
~anchors aweigh~
Topic Starter
Faputa
- Updated -
Dreamwalker
2017-10-24 17:06 Otakujanai: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1450201 Camellia - Ethnik Khemikal Teknologi]
2017-10-24 17:07 Otakujanai: wait this is harder than i think
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: is it
2017-10-24 17:08 Otakujanai: well those triples are quite energy draining stuff
2017-10-24 17:08 Otakujanai: spec me
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: i am
2017-10-24 17:08 Curiossity: and yeah they are
2017-10-24 17:11 Otakujanai: didn't played for weeks
2017-10-24 17:14 Otakujanai: those short LNs make this much harder than i thought
2017-10-24 17:14 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:14 Curiossity: not bad so far
2017-10-24 17:16 Otakujanai: rip
2017-10-24 17:17 Curiossity: nice play
2017-10-24 17:17 Otakujanai: i got 04:40:554 (280554|3,280654|3,280854|3,280954|3,281054|3) - this one wrong right?
2017-10-24 17:18 Curiossity: one moment
2017-10-24 17:21 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:21 Curiossity: in terms of, you missed it or
2017-10-24 17:21 Otakujanai: well probably intended but was bit hard for me after long jack section
2017-10-24 17:22 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:22 Curiossity: the sound lends itself nicely to the pattern though
2017-10-24 17:22 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:22 Otakujanai: won't put SVs here?
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: idk
2017-10-24 17:23 Curiossity: maybe
2017-10-24 17:23 Otakujanai: I would better make this one to 1/4 length triple LN for 05:05:854 (305854|2,305854|3,305854|1,305954|1) -
2017-10-24 17:23 Otakujanai: 05:06:054 (306054|3,306054|0,306054|2,306154|2) -
2017-10-24 17:24 Otakujanai: 05:06:654 - sounds different with this one
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: hmmm
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: i can kind of see it
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: not sure if i want the 1/4 ln tho
2017-10-24 17:25 Curiossity: might be a bit much, or are you thinking remove the 1/4 notes
2017-10-24 17:25 Otakujanai: yes
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: harder to recognize those sounds at 1/4 and 3/4
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: i still think it's a bit too similar to the pattern 05:06:654 (306654|2) - to make it different
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: just keep it for now
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: mkay
2017-10-24 17:26 Otakujanai: think about it later with bn
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: i'll keep it in mind tho
2017-10-24 17:26 Curiossity: yea
2017-10-24 17:27 Curiossity: although i think most bns would not look that closely :c
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: 05:24:354 (324354|3,324454|1,324454|0,324554|1,324554|0,324654|3,324654|1,324654|2,324754|0,324854|3,324854|2,324954|3,324954|2) -
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: i know you focused on drum
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: but
2017-10-24 17:27 Otakujanai: main sound is changing so rearrange pattern a bit
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: 05:27:954 (327954|2,328054|1,328054|3,328154|3,328154|1) - this too
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: or make it bit easier
2017-10-24 17:28 Curiossity: you mean the synths or
2017-10-24 17:28 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:28 Otakujanai: the phphahhhpheh??sound is different
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: just to give short break
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: idk how to express in words lol
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: as a transition maybe
2017-10-24 17:29 Curiossity: i think i understand
2017-10-24 17:29 Otakujanai: yep
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: and starting from 05:31:854 (331854|2,331854|3,331854|0,331954|1,332054|3,332054|2,332154|2,332154|3) - here
2017-10-24 17:30 Curiossity: so how's this for the first one https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385780
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: just map bit differently
2017-10-24 17:30 Otakujanai: cuz it's last transition part
2017-10-24 17:30 Curiossity: ok
2017-10-24 17:31 Otakujanai: good enough
2017-10-24 17:31 Curiossity: @.@
2017-10-24 17:32 Curiossity: alrighty
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: 01:58:054 (118054|3) -
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: 01:57:454 (117454|1) -
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: why are these so different
2017-10-24 17:32 Otakujanai: i think only pitch differs
2017-10-24 17:33 Otakujanai: i mean 01:58:454 (118454|1) - this sound
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: well the first one you linked is a much shorter sound, the second one drags on for a bit
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: oh
2017-10-24 17:33 Otakujanai: not the shorter one
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 17:33 Curiossity: i wanted to represent them, and i think 1/2 ln is too tricky with the jacks so i went with 1/4
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: quite hard to put ln right
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: well i think
2017-10-24 17:34 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/2 would be okay cuz
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/4 ln is
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: oh it's not 1/4
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: 1/8
2017-10-24 17:34 Otakujanai: anyway it's only about 50ms
2017-10-24 17:35 Otakujanai: so while playing it's bit hard to tap lns that short
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: although it's about the same time it takes for you to jack in the other column
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: right?
2017-10-24 17:35 Otakujanai: how about
2017-10-24 17:35 Curiossity: 01:58:454 (118454|0,118554|0) - here, i mean
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385793
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: somewhat similar concept with this one
2017-10-24 17:36 Otakujanai: make 1 hand LN and give break
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: what are breaks
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: but, i see your point
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: it would be a bit of rearranging though
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: just to make hand rest for short period
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:37 Otakujanai: up to u
2017-10-24 17:37 Curiossity: not a bad idea
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i'll sleep on it
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i might not sleep tonight so i'll think about it
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: 02:34:054 (154054|2,154154|1,154354|1,154454|3,154654|3,154754|0,154954|0,155054|2,155254|1) - better be LN
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: oki
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: bye~
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: oh
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: wait
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: i'm not going anywhere
2017-10-24 17:38 Otakujanai: thought you'll go to sleep
2017-10-24 17:38 Curiossity: nah
2017-10-24 17:39 Otakujanai: how about
2017-10-24 17:39 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385802
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: i just made them all 1/8 and the last two 1/4
2017-10-24 17:40 Curiossity: but i like that idea more
2017-10-24 17:40 Otakujanai: kk
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: well it's not about patterning but
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: 04:41:254 (281254|3,281304|2,281354|1,281404|0,281454|3,281454|2,281554|1,281554|0,281654|3,281654|2,281754|1,281754|0) -
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: i think this part should be more dense
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: compared with
2017-10-24 17:42 Otakujanai: 04:40:654 (280654|1,280654|0,280654|3,280754|2,280754|0,280854|1,280854|3,280954|1,280954|3,281054|2,281054|3,281054|0,281154|0,281154|1) -
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: those parts
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: or just rearrange it to harder pattern
2017-10-24 17:43 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 17:43 Curiossity: ok
2017-10-24 17:43 Otakujanai: and how about
2017-10-24 17:44 Otakujanai: 04:41:854 - quadstream for a sec
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: hmm
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: really? quadstreams, huh...
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: i like the idea
2017-10-24 17:45 Curiossity: but it's no where else in the map
2017-10-24 17:45 Otakujanai: just forget it then
2017-10-24 17:45 Otakujanai: i suck at consistency
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: nah, i appreciate the ideas
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: it's just my mapping style
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: i use quad 01:44:254 - like this point
2017-10-24 17:46 Otakujanai: since new part is starting
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: ah yeah
2017-10-24 17:46 Curiossity: that could be good
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: and for 02:01:854 - these sounds
2017-10-24 17:47 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: which sounds quite different with other parts
2017-10-24 17:47 Otakujanai: that's why i pointed 04:41:854 - this one too
2017-10-24 17:49 Curiossity: mhm
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: so for that part where you wanted it denser, would this be okay?
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385829
2017-10-24 17:50 Curiossity: a little trill before hand
2017-10-24 17:51 Otakujanai: yep
2017-10-24 17:51 Curiossity: cool
2017-10-24 17:51 Curiossity: didn't feel like messing with the rest of the pattern x.x
2017-10-24 17:51 Otakujanai: well then just keep your patterns
2017-10-24 17:52 Otakujanai: i didn't see your map for long time so don't remember all
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: it was less of liking my patterns and more out of laziness
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: x.x
2017-10-24 17:52 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 17:52 Curiossity: also, what's weird is that without the burst parts here 04:24:254 (264254|0) - the map would be 5.15* or so
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: wut
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: that is
2017-10-24 17:53 Otakujanai: a lot similar with my jump
2017-10-24 17:53 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: but low-5 star feels wrong for this kind of map
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: if i didn't put quad it was 5.35
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: also
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: should be ~6.2 compared with other pp based maps
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: did you notice any anchors in the 1/8 bursts
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: well
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: there are some
2017-10-24 17:54 Otakujanai: but that's concept right?
2017-10-24 17:54 Curiossity: like here 01:15:454 (75454|2) -
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: imo 4 is okay
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: 5 is not
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: what i mean is
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: if we avoid every single anchor
2017-10-24 17:55 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: there would be less pattern we can use
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: typically for 4k
2017-10-24 17:55 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 17:55 Otakujanai: so ~4 is okay
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: wait
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: 01:16:554 (76554|3,76704|3,76854|3,77004|3) - like this
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: so in 7k, 7 is okay?
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: no
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: only about 2 or 3
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: was being silly
2017-10-24 17:56 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: but yeah, i se
2017-10-24 17:56 Curiossity: see*
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: 04:53:054 -
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: silly suggestion here
2017-10-24 17:57 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385839
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: uh
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 17:57 Curiossity: not sure if it's intense enough for that
2017-10-24 17:58 Otakujanai: actually it's not intense except for 04:54:254 - in the screenshot
2017-10-24 17:58 Otakujanai: i can pass it easily
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: just suggested for fun tho
2017-10-24 17:59 Curiossity: well, can you pass it easily after 4 mins of jakcs
2017-10-24 17:59 Curiossity: jacks*
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: quite sure about it
2017-10-24 17:59 Otakujanai: cuz
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: first, for ultraplayers this map is not hard
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: second for players like me
2017-10-24 18:00 Otakujanai: plays those right hand jack as simple jump
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: oh
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: well if you're having to cheese the pattern
2017-10-24 18:00 Curiossity: then idunno
2017-10-24 18:01 Curiossity: not really looking to add things just for the ultra players x.x
2017-10-24 18:01 Curiossity: although, i do like the idea
2017-10-24 18:01 Otakujanai: then
2017-10-24 18:01 Otakujanai: 04:54:054 - ctrl+h till 04:54:454 - could be okay too
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: then i can pass by playing it as jack
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: of course you should rearrange some of those jacks
2017-10-24 18:02 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: btw
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: 04:56:254 -
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: this one
2017-10-24 18:02 Otakujanai: i mean those 3-2-2-2-3-2-2-2 parts
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: i'm not sure about it
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: cuz
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: i asked kawawa before about let's jump
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: and
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: follow me to my map
2017-10-24 18:03 Otakujanai: for a sec
2017-10-24 18:03 Curiossity: k
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: 05:15:772 -
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: quite similar layering right?
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: different style patterning but
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: it's 3-2-2-2
2017-10-24 18:04 Curiossity: yes, kind of
2017-10-24 18:04 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: although sounds are diverse
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: kawawa said
2017-10-24 18:04 Otakujanai: this seems like
2017-10-24 18:05 Otakujanai: i'm meshing? those sounds
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 18:05 Otakujanai: just not by listening to the sound but by simple patterning
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: i mean
2017-10-24 18:05 Curiossity: i kind of understand
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: cause you've got some 1/4 fading sound and a few other instruments
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: or w/e
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: that aren't a solid 1/4 but if you use them together they are?
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: not quite sure tbh
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: he said
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: try to find main sound
2017-10-24 18:06 Otakujanai: and mix that with drum
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: mhm
2017-10-24 18:06 Curiossity: i see
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: and focus on intensity of the sound while maintaining consistency
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: makes sense
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: focking hard for me tbh
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: so
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: i
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: throwed
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: my
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: let's
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: jump
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: to
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: graveyard
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: ;w;
2017-10-24 18:07 Curiossity: don't get silence xd
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: will remap someday but
2017-10-24 18:07 Otakujanai: i think i need more practive
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: *ce
2017-10-24 18:08 Curiossity: it's rough with some of camellia's stuff
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: okay back to your map
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: yeah
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: actually i don't think
2017-10-24 18:08 Otakujanai: that algorithm?thing is not good enough
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: the recently qualified one?
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: sounds are bit more diverse
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: and also
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: i don't understand why people kept saying that's p//s v.2
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: well
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: cuz SVs are much more simple
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: it's the second 1/4 spam 147 bpm map
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: although other things are the same
2017-10-24 18:09 Otakujanai: yah
2017-10-24 18:09 Curiossity: and it's got the 294bpm jumptrill that can be spammed
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: so
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: and it's got svs
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: it's clearly planet shaper
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: jk
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: but that's where they're coming formm
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: from*
2017-10-24 18:10 Otakujanai: well not for SVs imo
2017-10-24 18:10 Curiossity: i meant, both maps have svs
2017-10-24 18:10 Otakujanai: but tbh not much players can notice SV quality is different right?
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: yeah i know
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: evening's svs are
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: something else
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:11 Curiossity: compared to algo
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: btw 05:07:054 (307054|2,307104|1,307154|2) -
2017-10-24 18:11 Otakujanai: these sounds are quite strong but
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: i dunno how to fix it
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: maybe
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385871
2017-10-24 18:12 Curiossity: hah
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: i would put strong SV here but
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: since u don't know
2017-10-24 18:12 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: NO
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: lol
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: not (3/2)*F-777
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: only 300bpm jacks, what's wrong
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: oh
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: that's so easy
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: yeah c'mon
2017-10-24 18:13 Curiossity: :p
2017-10-24 18:13 Otakujanai: if you can't do it cut your hand :D
2017-10-24 18:14 Curiossity: ow
2017-10-24 18:14 Otakujanai: (Attang says)
2017-10-24 18:14 Curiossity: ah yeah
2017-10-24 18:14 Otakujanai: 05:09:054 (309054|3,309054|0,309054|1,309154|3,309154|2,309254|0,309254|1,309354|3,309354|2,309454|2,309454|0,309454|1,309554|3,309554|1,309654|0,309654|2,309754|3,309754|1,309854|0,309854|2,309854|3,309954|1,309954|0,310054|3,310054|2,310154|0,310154|1,310254|3,310254|2,310254|1,310354|3,310354|0,310454|1,310454|2,310554|3,310554|0,310654|0,310654|2,310654|1,310754|3,310754|1,310854|0,310854|2,310954|3,310954|1,311054|0,311054|3,311054|2,311154|1,311154|0,311254|3,311254|2,311354|0,311354|1,311454|3,311454|2,311454|1) -
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: this style makes DT much easier
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: message truncated
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: huh
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: i mean just 05:09:054 - these sections with 3222
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: that's what the end of your message said
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: right
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: i mean, if you dt this, good job
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: yay dt pp??
2017-10-24 18:15 Otakujanai: wow 1000pp for 4k
2017-10-24 18:15 Curiossity: yay
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: omg so broken
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: 05:18:054 (318054|2,318154|3,318254|2) -
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: think about it... 450bpm jacks
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: in dt
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: wonderful
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: no
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: 05:18:054 - quite different sound at this point
2017-10-24 18:16 Curiossity: what about that part
2017-10-24 18:16 Otakujanai: so
2017-10-24 18:17 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385886
2017-10-24 18:17 Curiossity: rip triple though
2017-10-24 18:17 Otakujanai: well it'll be okay
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: and for 05:18:654 - here
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: i don't think those patterns represent sounds
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: just make it simple
2017-10-24 18:18 Curiossity: how so
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385892
2017-10-24 18:18 Otakujanai: or
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: ah
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: yeah
2017-10-24 18:19 Curiossity: that's what i was thinking
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385894
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: could be okay
2017-10-24 18:19 Otakujanai: but harder
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: nah that's probably too much
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: i'll take the firs tidea
2017-10-24 18:20 Curiossity: first idea*
2017-10-24 18:20 Otakujanai: kk
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: 05:47:454 - why didn't you map here?
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: to make it same with taiko?
2017-10-24 18:21 Curiossity: cause i got bored zz
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: lol
2017-10-24 18:21 Otakujanai: well it's just my hope
2017-10-24 18:21 Curiossity: it's already 5 minutes and the player might get bored too
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:22 Otakujanai: cuz i like last section of p//s which makes me feel the song is ending
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: but yeah
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: hm
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: b-but this isn't p//s v3 !!
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: xd
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: it's just weird
2017-10-24 18:22 Otakujanai: haha
2017-10-24 18:22 Curiossity: cause i never mapped those bell things in the other breaks
2017-10-24 18:23 Otakujanai: well camellia songs are all the same style
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: so there's not really anything for me to map that's consistent
2017-10-24 18:23 Otakujanai: not sounds but concept
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: kind of
2017-10-24 18:23 Curiossity: sometimes not but yeah
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: seems thats all for me
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: others are minor issues
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: okiedoke
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: thanks for the look-over :3
2017-10-24 18:24 Otakujanai: owo
2017-10-24 18:24 Curiossity: and the playtest
2017-10-24 18:25 Otakujanai: np
2017-10-24 18:25 Curiossity: if you want kds post the log and i'll have faputa hook you up
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: F
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: R
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: E
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: E
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: K
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: D
2017-10-24 18:26 Otakujanai: S
2017-10-24 18:26 Curiossity: lmao

Good map :D
Topic Starter
Faputa
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Marm
heya, mod from my queue.

  1. 02:21:254 - the sv here isn't so natural as the other ones with only 1/2 notes. Also it's the only part with highly increased sv that uses 1/4 notes so it's not consistent and might make players miss without a reason.
  2. 02:54:554 - consider smoothing the sv here or even changing the patterns as the sv change every 2 notes works better on ddkkddkkdd patterns or so, changing sv every colour change. Smoothing sv with a lower sv at the end shouldn't be a problem as you lower it even more on the next note at 03:02:654 (1) - with x0,50 sv.

small mod from me as I didn't find much else. My other suggestions wouldn't fit the mapping style you used here.

Good luck with pp map :^)
Topic Starter
Faputa

Marm wrote:

heya, mod from my queue.

  1. 02:21:254 - the sv here isn't so natural as the other ones with only 1/2 notes. Also it's the only part with highly increased sv that uses 1/4 notes so it's not consistent and might make players miss without a reason. deleted SV here as I don't know to to do anything better than that.
  2. 02:54:554 - consider smoothing the sv here or even changing the patterns as the sv change every 2 notes works better on ddkkddkkdd patterns or so, changing sv every colour change. Smoothing sv with a lower sv at the end shouldn't be a problem as you lower it even more on the next note at 03:02:654 (1) - with x0,50 sv. That kills HD players (testplay proved) with decreasing up to 0.50x. If the game supports figures up to 0.005x that would make this much easier ;w; So I keep for now until I have some better idea on this one

small mod from me as I didn't find much else. My other suggestions wouldn't fit the mapping style you used here.

Good luck with pp map :^)
Thanks for looking the map :)
Raytoly
BG I think before look better than now
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