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Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire
Right under the user page/achievements in your profile.

'The hell does this mean. .-.

Is it gonna tell us when you're banned from the game/site or if you've been warned or something?
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
I'd guess that its some sort of system to see whether or not the person in question is a cunt or not.
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire
I just looked at someone who's banned's account standing. Nothing but "blahblah in good standing. :)"
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
If it was implemented today, then it wouldn't be surprising that the system will only work for people who got warnings or bans after the implementation.

Well if it is what i presumed that it was, of course.
Dai
1,632 posts
Joined April 2010
Dai
that means I'm a good boy
Vext_old
987 posts
Joined October 2010
Vext_old
It was on before for what a week? Showed with red or green or something if you were banned from game, permanent, or forums and all that... But it vanished one day... looks like re-implemented.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Did anyone get a "great" ?

Also, they used the wrong shade of green...
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
:)
DeathxShinigami
1,176 posts
Joined November 2008
DeathxShinigami
My account is standing. I'm a little afraid in case it falls down.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
GladiOol's account is in good standing :).

I've never ever expected to see this \:D/
Shellghost
543 posts
Joined March 2009
Shellghost
Shellghost's account is in good standing :)
Well I didn't expect anything else.
Mismagius
9,267 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
Vext_old
987 posts
Joined October 2010
Vext_old
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=311490

Something is amiss.
Luna
2,355 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna

Blue Dragon wrote:

Haha, that was literally the first thing I checked when I saw this feature. Glad I'm not the only one ;P
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat

failboat wrote:

If it was implemented today, then it wouldn't be surprising that the system will only work for people who got warnings or bans after the implementation.

Well if it is what i presumed that it was, of course.
Luna
2,355 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
I think we got that
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire

Luna wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Haha, that was literally the first thing I checked when I saw this feature. Glad I'm not the only one ;P
I actually was talking about him in my second post.
lol.
awp
osu! Alumni
11,869 posts
Here since the beginning
awp

failboat wrote:

I'd guess that its some sort of system to see whether or not the person in question is a cunt or not.
aka best feature
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
but so far it is a liar
awp
osu! Alumni
11,869 posts
Here since the beginning
awp

failboat wrote:

If it was implemented today, then it wouldn't be surprising that the system will only work for people who got warnings or bans after the implementation.

Well if it is what i presumed that it was, of course.
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
I SAID SO FAR


IT DOES NOT LOG MY SHITPOSTING AAA THIS FUNCTION IS FAULTY
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
See Shiirn's page for what happens when you're not in good standing.

I guess the powers that be got tired of updating the "why was I silenced" thread.
Mismagius
9,267 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/tamara_less

First person to get 2 infringements? \:D/
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
oh its for within the osu client, thats gay
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire
Im actually kind of pissed off now.

I dont want a record of all my silences or something.

They're gonna see me and go "ooo this mother fucker was silenced once!!!111!!! fuk his map yo!"
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
i am posting because i believe this feature, like many others, was not completely thought out when implemented
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat
did garry newman take over the development of osu and the community oh lawd
Sander-Don
1,282 posts
Joined March 2010
Sander-Don

Shiirn wrote:

i am posting because i believe this feature, like many others, was not completely thought out when implemented
It is extremely stupid, but i find it funny as well.
mm201
osu! Alumni
4,495 posts
Joined August 2008
mm201
It's all fun and games until someone gets a permaban. ._.
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
PROTIP:
Only allow staff to view account standing. Also account owners should be able to see their own.
Create a list of people with 6+ infringements to better keep track of offenders.
Infringements disappear after a period of activity, or can spend a certain amount of kudosu to remove infringements at a pre-determined rate of activity.

ALSO:
Full disclosure of the system would be nice.
Rena-chan
Rena-chan

failboat wrote:

but so far it is a liar
Every time I see your signature, I get Ode to the Bouncer stuck in my head. This is all your fault.
Vext_old
987 posts
Joined October 2010
Vext_old
What is the statute of limitations on this is what I would like to know, can a silence once a month for 10 months get you a perma ban? And if it is logged as numbered offenses, is any offense equal to another such as 1 silence evade equal to 1 silence or 1 modq on a forum? This seems very funky and needs tweaking, but I like it more than dislike.
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
As long as they go away with penance / activity i don't really mind, but a full disclosure of how this works would be nice to know. Since, well, we don't want another ========= happening
Shellghost
543 posts
Joined March 2009
Shellghost
I like how it implies a !silence is equal to a !kill.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani

ziin wrote:

PROTIP:
or can spend a certain amount of kudosu to remove infringements at a pre-determined rate of activity.
"HELLO I SPAM OSU LISJDFROGIJSDFOJGDSKNGLKSDGKLSDNGF"
"Banded"
"IT'S OK I GOT MAH KUDOSUDOSU."

yeah no.

Also, "CDFA's account is in good standing :)." lolololol
awp
osu! Alumni
11,869 posts
Here since the beginning
awp

Shiirn wrote:

i am posting because i believe this feature, like many others, was not completely thought out when implemented
What is your reasoning for that, out of curiosity's sake? ie what hasn't been thought out
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
public opinion, the amount of disclosure the public has recieved, how it reacts to kills, silences, repeated silences, and auto-silences. Revelation of information to the public, the punishments involved.

A good chunk of it, awp. I am actually in favor of it overall as a concept, however right now =the public= only knows that there is this thing that when you get silenced or killed 10 times you're going to get permabanned. If we're wrong, correct us. Feed us information as to what this is and how it works.
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
The chat is filled with many irc users and hardly any osu! users. I think everyone is too scared to talk :?

A clarification on how the system works and details regarding silences and kills would be much appreciated.
peppy
19,315 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy

ziin wrote:

Only allow staff to view account standing. Also account owners should be able to see their own.
This may change later. I wanted to leave it public initially to see the general response.

ziin wrote:

Create a list of people with 6+ infringements to better keep track of offenders.
or 10+ to consider permanent actions.

ziin wrote:

Infringements disappear after a period of activity, or can spend a certain amount of kudosu to remove infringements at a pre-determined rate of activity.
Already implemented, but not mentioned as I'd rather people are on the cautious side. Also the period will likely change.

ziin wrote:

Full disclosure of the system would be nice.
Such as?

Shiirn wrote:

right now =the public= only knows that there is this thing that when you get silenced or killed 10 times you're going to get permabanned.
Their account could be permanently banned with 9 more infringements.
Further information will be made available as the system matures, and after we decide it is working well. Giving out information now would skew results.

As an afterthought, I'd like to mention that this system isn't completely thought out. Nothing of which I do is. I like to improve and adapt based on the community's response to change. There will always be an initial period with people crying over change, because that is human nature, but I do read all constructive feedback. When things are finalised, there will of course be an official announcement.
roleykatsu
378 posts
Joined December 2008
roleykatsu

Teehee, the period after the smile looks like a misplaced mole.

Interesting feature :O

Edit: Oh, the thread was moved to General Discussion while I was typing my post.


Geez, my iPod is being slow.
Mercurial
Mercurial



btw... I'm disagree with this... Sorry. :(
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38
What is the timezone used? e.g. 2011-10-21 10:11:08 UTC+?
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
supposedly UTC+8.
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

Rena-chan wrote:

failboat wrote:

but so far it is a liar
Every time I see your signature, I get Ode to the Bouncer stuck in my head. This is all your fault.
this so true
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin

peppy wrote:

ziin wrote:

Full disclosure of the system would be nice.
Such as?
This is good enough:

peppy wrote:

Further information will be made available as the system matures, and after we decide it is working well. Giving out information now would skew results.

peppy wrote:

or 10+ to consider permanent actions.
Obviously you hate second chances (and I can't blame you for it), but there are bound to be repeat offenders, and I am of the belief that everyone gets multiple chances, especially when the punishment is for extended periods of time (weeks or months even) but very rarely for permanent actions. Severe offenses or repeated idiocy can be dealt with accordingly.

Since you're not going to automatically permaban anyone with 10+ infractions, this is fine. Just be warned that if automatic action isn't taken at any point, there's a likelihood that no action will ever be taken. And if action isn't taken immediately, often times the recipient won't know what they did wrong. Sending a PM to the offender automatically detailing the conditions of the action would be nice too.

Another thing you can think about is adding a severity of the infraction. Typing a "NSFW word" into osu and getting automatically silenced for it would be much different than flaming a moderator or posting a link to pornographic material.

IMO flaming would count x2, and porn would be x5 or something, and after two postings of porn you would likely be suspended for a time from whatever functions are necessary (on top of obviously being silenced for a few days).

CDFA wrote:

"HELLO I SPAM OSU LISJDFROGIJSDFOJGDSKNGLKSDGKLSDNGF"
"Banded"
"IT'S OK I GOT MAH KUDOSUDOSU."

yeah no.
You pay 50 kudosu to get 1 infringement removed. Usable once a month. Or at least that's what I was thinking.
10 months and ~400 mods for a clean slate is no laughing matter and would prove that the recipient truly cares about the community (and only 26 people have more than 500 total kd right now, so it's not really "IT'S OK I GOT MAH KUDOSUDOSU.")

Also, note that previously, you could spam osu, get silenced, and nothing really bad happened at all. All spending kudosu would do is bring it right back to the old system, which I thought was working well.
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,023 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan
And I was curious why we have so much chances before getting banned...
Although, in some cases this feature is kinda ambiguous (like mentioned, already banned players have good standings), for example this guy said sorry and got his second chance, IMO the "permanent" doesn't suit here (for now?).

However, I think recording silence as infrigement is a... hmm... bit too much? (hi, #portuguese) I know trash talk isn't widely acceptable but counting this as a one of possible ban factors is like looking for something in nothing. For instance, we can't say "Hey, I don't like this guy, so I will provoke him to throw some shit at me and then I'll call op to silence him" - then repeat few times and voila! Plausible, but I think it shouldn't go that way.
Pandemoniusz
360 posts
Joined February 2010
Pandemoniusz
Here's what you do:
-flame
-spam
-troll
-get banned

And then there will be only one (and #1) osu player, me.
I WILL BECOME GOD OF OSU! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjdyu-ufdYY

I think it's a good idea to deal with trolls.
Quaraezha
1,491 posts
Joined February 2011
Quaraezha

Pandemoniusz wrote:

I WILL BECOME GOD OF OSU! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjdyu-ufdYY


So are auto-silences counted?
Backfire
3,204 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Backfire
Since when did we have auto silences? ;-;
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