majiko - Sarishinohara · forum

Shunao

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-09-15T12:49:01+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 3 avril 2018 at 03:12:42

Artist: majiko
Title: Sarishinohara
Tags: みきとP mikitop CONTRAST akaito cut version ShogunMoon eLy Kalibe
BPM: 135
Filesize: 3891kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2,31 stars, 280 notes)
Easy (1,29 stars, 113 notes)
eLy's Insane (3,95 stars, 398 notes)
Hard (3,12 stars, 370 notes)
Kalibe's Insane (4,18 stars, 387 notes)
Normal (1,75 stars, 226 notes)

Download: majiko - Sarishinohara
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Beautiful banner by -Yukie-!~

Previous banner by Luisina!

#6

Easy by me

Normal by me

Advanced by me

Hard by me

Insane by eLy

Insane by Kalibe
Download Extra diff by [ L u k a s ] here

Metadata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77GFzel5Jl8
http://www.majiko.net/discography/?id=5

Last edited by Shunao 2018-04-03T01:13:05+00:00, edited 101 times in total.

Chihara Minori

1,239 posts

Joined December 2013

Chihara Minori 2017-09-15T13:06:57+00:00

I like the current artist name uwu

aha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77GFzel5Jl8

fk I'm late

Last edited by Chihara Minori 2017-09-15T13:11:52+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-09-15T13:08:37+00:00

changed w

edit: thanks for the link, i added some tags!~ c;

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-09-18T20:45:40+00:00

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-10-19T20:11:36+00:00

update from Log's irc

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 54156
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 62822,68600
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Sarishinohara
TitleUnicode:サリシノハラ
Artist:Majiko
ArtistUnicode:まじ娘
Creator:ShogunMoon
Version:Lukas' Insane
Source:
Tags:みきとP mikito p CONTRAST
BeatmapID:1424842
BeatmapSetID:669138

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.6
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Log Off Now

956 posts

Joined May 2014

Log Off Now 2017-10-19T20:14:39+00:00

irc'd with l u k a s

irc log

20:57 [ L u k a s ]: this map sux
20:57 *[ L u k a s ] is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/669138 Majiko - Sarishinohara [Lukas' Insane]]
20:57 [ L u k a s ]: too pp
21:00 Log Off Now: lol
21:00 Log Off Now: free dt
21:00 Log Off Now: i swear the offset on that map is wrong tho
21:00 Log Off Now: feels like its 10ms too late
21:00 [ L u k a s ]: you checked it? owo
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: idk i didnt time it Sho did
21:01 Log Off Now: i just 94% acc fc'd it
21:01 Log Off Now: LOL
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: my diff?
21:01 Log Off Now: ya
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: okay damn
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: is it cool? :3
21:01 Log Off Now: ya
21:01 Log Off Now: altho i dont get ur emphasis on some parts
21:01 Log Off Now: lmfao
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: hm
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: ?
21:01 [ L u k a s ]: gimmick map
21:02 Log Off Now: holy
21:02 Log Off Now: 01:01:489 (1,2,1,2) -
21:02 Log Off Now: 01:15:266 (5,1,2,1) - nice copy paste
21:03 Log Off Now: u cant hide from m e
21:03 [ L u k a s ]: gimmick
21:03 Log Off Now: 01:34:600 (4,5) - yuge spacing here
21:03 [ L u k a s ]: omgggggggggggg
21:03 [ L u k a s ]: this is so cool with hs
21:04 Log Off Now: 01:34:822 (5,1) - tiny spacing here
21:04 Log Off Now: but the vocal is waaaaaaaay stronger on (5,1)
21:04 Log Off Now: 01:35:267 (1,2) - same with 01:35:711 (2,3) -
21:04 [ L u k a s ]: i wasn't emphasizing the vocals
21:04 [ L u k a s ]: but yeah
21:04 [ L u k a s ]: ima fix
21:04 Log Off Now: and smaller spacing here 01:38:822 (1,2,3) - than the rest of the kiai when the build here is where imo there should be yuge spacing
21:05 Log Off Now: 01:45:266 (4,5) - could all be circles
21:05 Log Off Now: for the v o c a l y a k n o w
21:05 Log Off Now: since theres no differenciation to what you're following there
21:05 Log Off Now: 01:45:932 (1,2) - if you do that ^ i would maybe make this a slider tho
21:05 [ L u k a s ]: i didn't make it too clear that i'm not trying to follow vocals
21:06 [ L u k a s ]: 00:22:378 - in this part i wasn't following strictly the vocals
21:06 Log Off Now: o
21:06 Log Off Now: ya you might wanna make it more obvious then lol
21:06 Log Off Now: 01:47:488 (8) - also make these two clickable
21:06 Log Off Now: 00:22:378 - ye i get this part you're not following vocals
21:06 [ L u k a s ]: why though
21:07 Log Off Now: because its the strongest part of that little drum fill
21:07 Log Off Now: or snare pattern
21:07 [ L u k a s ]: okie
21:07 Log Off Now: or ctrl + g the whole rhythm
21:07 Log Off Now: either or works imo
21:08 Log Off Now: 01:54:377 (7) - i would prefer if this wasn't extended to the blue tick since it looks like you're following the drums here with the triple
21:08 Log Off Now: but the bass kick is on the red tick here 01:54:600 -
21:09 [ L u k a s ]: y o u
21:09 Log Off Now: 01:56:600 (1,2,1) - mm idk how i feel about this being the same as the pattern before
21:09 [ L u k a s ]: nah i think it's better like this
21:09 Log Off Now: when theres no note here 01:56:822 -
21:09 [ L u k a s ]: emphasizing the held sound on 01:54:378 -
21:10 Log Off Now: in that case i would make it more obvious that you're following the synth
21:10 [ L u k a s ]: the sound on there is very quiet that's why spacing is smaller than 01:54:822 (1,2,1,2) -
21:10 [ L u k a s ]: well post your log ima tell shogun to give you kudos
21:10 Log Off Now: 01:54:822 (1,2,1,2) - yeah i get it on this one
21:11 Log Off Now: 01:56:600 (1,2,1,2) - its this one that doesnt have the sound
21:11 Log Off Now: or at least the bass kick that played before
21:12 Log Off Now: 00:33:489 (3,6) - also pls visual spacing
21:12 Log Off Now: triggers me
21:12 Log Off Now: touching overlap
21:12 Log Off Now: 00:41:488 (3) - fix stack
21:12 Log Off Now: 00:42:378 (3) - yea
21:12 [ L u k a s ]: not noticable in gameplay though
21:12 Log Off Now: it issssss
21:12 Log Off Now: o well barely it is
21:12 Log Off Now: and its still triggering
21:13 [ L u k a s ]: nah
21:13 Log Off Now: can u move just a tiny bit down pls <3
21:13 Log Off Now: x306:y243
21:13 [ L u k a s ]: is that all?
21:13 Log Off Now: apart from triggering stacks yeah
21:13 [ L u k a s ]: ok

Hikomori

840 posts

Joined November 2015

Hikomori 2017-10-25T05:08:39+00:00

if you want to link in the banner the source of the bg

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=44403643

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-10-28T20:54:06+00:00

[A L P H A] wrote:
if you want to link in the banner the source of the bg

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=44403643

i changed it xd

b00

186 posts

Joined January 2014

b00 2017-10-29T22:23:51+00:00

Lukas Insane
00:04:590 (1) - stacking this with 00:03:479 (3) - would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing.
00:06:590 (1) - this wave slider is sorta lacking in curviness

Try something like https://goo.gl/Pcd3YF
00:18:368 (6) - this slider has a sound on the red tick. Perhaps end it on that instead?
00:20:034 - missing a note here.
00:54:368 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - your kiai is using a lot of counter clock wise rotation. Try empathising certain notes by reversing that flow. Such as 00:56:146 (1) - and the downbeats
01:18:812 - this is missing a note here. same here 01:19:146 -
The patterning is fine for the most part. Its rather simple but it works.
eLy's Insane
00:08:812 (3) - this overlap is kinda off putting hehe
00:10:368 (2,3) - same with stuff like this. Try to keep them from overlapping or if you do overlap half way over the other note to keep things cute
00:50:812 (1) - this slider has a note on the white tick
00:55:257 (4) - making this go left would look better https://goo.gl/ux1E6r because it goes against the curve of 3.
Also why are you using 3 point sliders if their going to be straight! This hurts me inside. Pls fix
In general, stuff like 00:58:368 (3) - looks rather ugly just because its a diagonal straight slider. Making this curved would
be better or you can just angle it slightly +-15 degrees from 90
01:07:479 (4) - I think this could look better if you put the anchor in the middle and didn't bend it so much.https://goo.gl/U6DBTa
The patterning is also fine, just be careful with stuff like 01:22:146 (2,1,2,3) - and overlaps. It looks good otherwise
Hard
if your going to use a red anchor I would advise putting it in the middle ;P https://goo.gl/UjDboJ
00:07:034 (1) - this wave slider is missing curviness again! What I would advise you do is use the approach circle of two circles and match them to fit around the curve of the slider so you can get it to be exact
What you want to avoid is slightly miscurved stuff like this https://imgur.com/a/7X15M
00:16:559 - missing a note
00:17:034 (1) - reverse?
00:18:812 (1) - ^
obviously your using ds so your patterns are somewhat limited, but it looks good
01:31:479 (7,1) - this offbeat slider seems kinda werid. Try starting the slider where 7 is instead

nextplay

976 posts

Joined December 2015

nextplay 2017-10-29T23:19:48+00:00

modz

23:50 ShogunMoon: hey o/
23:50 My Angel Kanan: Hey owo
23:51 ShogunMoon: do u have time for modding a map :v
23:52 My Angel Kanan: this one?
23:52 *My Angel Kanan is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1424842 Majiko - Sarishinohara]
23:53 ShogunMoon: yup
23:53 My Angel Kanan: sure
23:54 *My Angel Kanan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1415357 Majiko - Sarishinohara [Easy]]
23:54 ShogunMoon: Thaaanks
23:57 My Angel Kanan: 00:10:812 (4) - This doesn't need to be clickable imo because it isn't so strong as 5 and doing 3 to a 2/1 or leave it as 1/1 would give more emphasis on the Drum.
23:57 My Angel Kanan: like here
23:57 My Angel Kanan: 00:13:479 (3,1) - 
23:59 ShogunMoon: ye fixed with a 2/3 slider renverse
00:02 My Angel Kanan: 01:40:146 (3) - 
00:02 My Angel Kanan: basically the same as the first point
00:03 My Angel Kanan: but this time i would say that a 2/1 Slider would be good for the vocal
00:06 My Angel Kanan: uw      u
00:07 ShogunMoon: it's fine imo its fit well with the music
00:08 My Angel Kanan: 01:53:701 (1,1,1,1) - 
00:08 My Angel Kanan: is the nc spam really necessary?
00:08 My Angel Kanan: atleast 1,2,1,2 would be okay
00:09 My Angel Kanan: but 1,1,1,1 would be maybe hard to read for beginners
00:10 ShogunMoon: removed nc here 01:56:590 (1)
00:11 My Angel Kanan: 01:53:701 (1) -  this one maybe too?
00:11 My Angel Kanan: if you nc the one slider you mentioned
00:11 My Angel Kanan: your nc patterning is broke 
00:11 My Angel Kanan: uw u
00:12 ShogunMoon: fixed too xdd
00:12 My Angel Kanan: okay
00:12 My Angel Kanan: im done with modding
00:12 My Angel Kanan: your map are too gud 
00:13 My Angel Kanan: owo
00:13 ShogunMoon: thx!!
00:13 ShogunMoon: now kd!
00:13 ShogunMoon: xdd
00:14 My Angel Kanan: ok
00:14 My Angel Kanan: uhm i checked normal
00:14 My Angel Kanan: 00:00:738 (1) - 
00:14 My Angel Kanan: this is 
00:14 My Angel Kanan: idk
00:15 My Angel Kanan: maybe delete this one to keep the diff more simple? xd
00:18 ShogunMoon: deleted

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-10-30T09:51:06+00:00

b00 wrote:
Lukas Insane
00:04:590 (1) - stacking this with 00:03:479 (3) - would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing. yes but it doesn't even show in game
00:06:590 (1) - this wave slider is sorta lacking in curviness Try something like https://goo.gl/Pcd3YF didn't wanna curve it too much.
it's short too so I think it's fitting that I keep it as it is
00:18:368 (6) - this slider has a sound on the red tick. Perhaps end it on that instead? if you listen very carefully at the beginning of the slider there's a sound that supports a hold slider so I wanted to emphasize that
00:20:034 - missing a note here. the part is very calm itself and I was ignoring the guitar or whatever the instrument in the background was but I emphasized the clicking sounds and decided to make a pause on there
00:54:368 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - your kiai is using a lot of counter clock wise rotation. Try empathising certain notes by reversing that flow. Such as 00:56:146 (1) - and the downbeats I emphasize certain circles and sliders with bigger spacing while trying to keep the flow as good as possible and make it comfortable to play owo
01:18:812 - this is missing a note here. same here 01:19:146 - There's already a circle on the first one though, I'm assuming you meant 1/4 rhythm that I ignored, fixed thanks
The patterning is fine for the most part. Its rather simple but it works.

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Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-10-30T14:34:37+00:00

b00 wrote:
Hard
if your going to use a red anchor I would advise putting it in the middle ;P https://goo.gl/UjDboJ i prefer keep this i like when this slider is like this
00:07:034 (1) - this wave slider is missing curviness again! What I would advise you do is use the approach circle of two circles and match them to fit around the curve of the slider so you can get it to be exact
What you want to avoid is slightly miscurved stuff like this https://imgur.com/a/7X15M i think it's fixed :v
00:16:559 - missing a note fixed
00:17:034 (1) - reverse? i prefer 1/1 slider for this part
00:18:812 (1) - ^ ^
obviously your using ds so your patterns are somewhat limited, but it looks good
01:31:479 (7,1) - this offbeat slider seems kinda werid. Try starting the slider where 7 is instead fixed

Thanks for modding!!

Venix

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1,937 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-10-31T01:24:11+00:00

Hi there~ as requested

[General]

Spread between Hard and Normal feels a bit harsh, Hard one is basing on 1/2 rhythms at all when Normal is using many 1/1 sliders with occasional 1/2 circles/sliders, you probably need an Advanced diff between these two.

[Easy]
Seems like pretty clean one.

What are you think about mapping the beginning like on other diffs? It will work better for consistency I guess.
00:50:146 (4) - This 1/2 seems unnecessary and a bit hard to play for beginners, especially when you ignored 00:50:590 - this strong beat. What are you think about just putting circle 00:50:368 - here instead?
Overall, kiai time feels a bit too overgeneralized, 1/1 spam feels so boring. I prefer to use some different rhythms instead of using the same one in entire of kiai.

[eLy's Insane]

00:24:146 (1,2) - I don't get the reason why you rotated flow very strongly here, it feels a bit harsh during gameplay so I prefer to change it to something like you used before (00:22:368 (1,2) - here and 00:23:257 (1,2) - here) seems like a much better option.
00:54:368 (2) - Here you probably have one of the most important beats in music so why spacing is very small? It matters especially when you used high spacing 00:56:146 (1) - here, on the very similar beat. I prefer to increase the spacing between 00:54:146 (1,2) - these notes to keep consistency.
01:08:479 (9) - This note sounds a bit weird without clap hitsound.
01:41:034 (2,3) - // 01:42:812 (2,3) - I prefer to use at least similar spacing because the beats are almost the same.

Normal and Hard is nice, good luck!

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-10-31T07:21:47+00:00

b00

00:08:812 (3) - this overlap is kinda off putting hehe
00:10:368 (2,3) - same with stuff like this. Try to keep them from overlapping or if you do overlap half way over the other note to keep things cute

I do not change it because it is all intended

00:50:812 (1) - this slider has a note on the white tick

It does not change because it is in accordance with the guitar

00:55:257 (4) - making this go left would look better https://goo.gl/ux1E6r because it goes against the curve of 3.
Also why are you using 3 point sliders if their going to be straight! This hurts me inside. Pls fix
In general, stuff like 00:58:368 (3) - looks rather ugly just because its a diagonal straight slider. Making this curved would
be better or you can just angle it slightly +-15 degrees from 90

I changed the flow of the surroundings

01:07:479 (4) - I think this could look better if you put the anchor in the middle and didn't bend it so much.https://goo.gl/U6DBTa
The patterning is also fine, just be careful with stuff like 01:22:146 (2,1,2,3) - and overlaps. It looks good otherwise

I do not change it because I want to add sharpness to AIM

Venix

00:24:146 (1,2) - I don't get the reason why you rotated flow very strongly here, it feels a bit harsh during gameplay so I prefer to change it to something like you used before (00:22:368 (1,2) - here and 00:23:257 (1,2) - here) seems like a much better option.

fixed

00:54:368 (2) - Here you probably have one of the most important beats in music so why spacing is very small? It matters especially when you used high spacing 00:56:146 (1) - here, on the very similar beat. I prefer to increase the spacing between 00:54:146 (1,2) - these notes to keep consistency.

fixed

01:08:479 (9) - This note sounds a bit weird without clap hitsound.

add clap

01:41:034 (2,3) - // 01:42:812 (2,3) - I prefer to use at least similar spacing because the beats are almost the sam

keep

ty mod

http://puu.sh/yblWy/c2cfafde1a.zip

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-10-31T11:42:35+00:00

Venix wrote:
Hi there~ as requested

[General]
Spread between Hard and Normal feels a bit harsh, Hard one is basing on 1/2 rhythms at all when Normal is using many 1/1 sliders with occasional 1/2 circles/sliders, you probably need an Advanced diff between these two. :v
[Easy]
Seems like pretty clean one.
What are you think about mapping the beginning like on other diffs? It will work better for consistency I guess.
00:50:146 (4) - This 1/2 seems unnecessary and a bit hard to play for beginners, especially when you ignored 00:50:590 - this strong beat. What are you think about just putting circle 00:50:368 - here instead?
Overall, kiai time feels a bit too overgeneralized, 1/1 spam feels so boring. I prefer to use some different rhythms instead of using the same one in entire of kiai. but the most important vocals are on the head of the sliders that i mapped and more i follow some drums too, white ticks need to be mapped on the kiai part imo
Normal and Hard is nice, good luck!

No reply mean fixed ~

Thanks for modding!

Nokie-

171 posts

Joined July 2015

Nokie- 2017-10-31T12:17:07+00:00

Here from my queue!

The spread between normal and Hard may be a bit too wide, especially considering that there's only a 0.4 star gap between easy and normal. Not sure about this though.

mod

Easy

it's really good, so I'll be nitpicking

00:14:146 (1) - isn't a perfect wave. I made slight improvements here's the code if you want

80,184,14146,6,0,B|149:163|149:216|225:183,1,135,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

01:28:146 (3) - ^

404,188,88146,2,0,B|423:120|385:120|404:52,2,135,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

01:22:812 (1) - This slider doesn't look so good. Copying 01:24:590 (3) - looks better and makes more sense with the pattern imo

found nothing wrong with the Easy other than that. Good job!

Normal

01:02:146 (2) - should be removed imo

01:06:590 - you use 1/2 constantly throughout the map, but don't map this. Why?

found nothing wrong with the ~~Easy~~ Normal other than that. Good job!

Hard

00:00:738 (1) - not an issue with the object itself , but I don't know if having an object before the first timing point is rankable

eLy's Insane

00:00:729 (1) - same as on Hard difficulty (also note how the objects are 9ms apart? 00:00:738 (1) - / 00:00:729 (1) - )

00:32:923 (5) - don't think that circle is necessary. It only covers a held vocal that started on this 00:32:590 (4) - slider's tail

01:50:146 (3) - this shape seems out of place, since you seem to be using either full curves or just very slight curves up to this point

Lukas' Insane

00:00:812 (1,2) - same as on Hard and eLy's Insane

00:04:479 (6) - sounds overmapped to me

00:56:812 (2,3,4) - I think you accidentally snapped these to 1/6, should be landing on the blue ticks

01:14:368 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - not only is this entire section copy-pasted from 01:00:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - but it's in the exact same place too. Please do something about it.

01:02:146 (2) - 01:16:368 (2) - why are these two hit-sounded differently?

01:40:590 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is an exact copy-paste from 00:08:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Please don't be so lazy.

01:51:256 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - an exact copy-paste of 01:44:145 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

To be honest, all the other diffs felt like they had effort put into creating them, while this just feels like someone trying to get a map done the fastest and laziest way possible. It feels repetitive as hell ( I wonder why lol) and overall not half as nice as the other diffs.

Other than the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V diff, a very nice set! Good luck with it!

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-10-31T18:33:06+00:00

WasserIstGut wrote:
eLy's Insane

00:00:729 (1) - same as on Hard difficulty (also note how the objects are 9ms apart? 00:00:738 (1) - / 00:00:729 (1) - )

Adjust to the modification of the shogunmoon.

00:32:923 (5) - don't think that circle is necessary. It only covers a held vocal that started on this 00:32:590 (4) - slider's tail

00:32:923 (5) - is following the sound of the guitar , no change

01:50:146 (3) - this shape seems out of place, since you seem to be using either full curves or just very slight curves up to this point

fix

ty mod http://puu.sh/ybGEu/91e5f0882a.zip

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-10-31T19:35:33+00:00

WasserIstGut wrote:
Lukas' Insane
00:00:812 (1,2) - same as on Hard and eLy's Insane you're judging my 'laziness' and yet you haven't even said the real point just "same as hard and ely's" not unrankable
00:04:479 (6) - sounds overmapped to me nope
00:56:812 (2,3,4) - I think you accidentally snapped these to 1/6, should be landing on the blue ticks
01:14:368 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - not only is this entire section copy-pasted from 01:00:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - but it's in the exact same place too. Please do something about it.
01:02:146 (2) - 01:16:368 (2) - why are these two hit-sounded differently?
01:40:590 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is an exact copy-paste from 00:08:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Please don't be so lazy.
01:51:256 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - an exact copy-paste of 01:44:145 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

To be honest, all the other diffs felt like they had effort put into creating them, while this just feels like someone trying to get a map done the fastest and laziest way possible. It feels repetitive as hell ( I wonder why lol) and overall not half as nice as the other diffs.

Other than the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V diff, a very nice set! Good luck with it![/box]

the whole map's gimmick is to copy paste the literal same parts of the song and I don't think it's my "laziness" the song is even short so I don't see why I would have to copy paste other than for a sake of a gimmick. Please do not make assumptions based on what you think is true.

owo

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Nokie-

171 posts

Joined July 2015

Nokie- 2017-10-31T21:53:33+00:00

Whatever qualifies as a gimmick nowadays.

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-11-01T19:03:59+00:00

WasserIstGut wrote:
Here from my queue!

The spread between normal and Hard may be a bit too wide, especially considering that there's only a 0.4 star gap between easy and normal. Not sure about this though. yea i know i make a advanced
mod
Easy

it's really good, so I'll be nitpicking

00:14:146 (1) - isn't a perfect wave. I made slight improvements here's the code if you want it's fine imo
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01:28:146 (3) - ^ ^
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01:22:812 (1) - This slider doesn't look so good. Copying 01:24:590 (3) - looks better and makes more sense with the pattern imo

found nothing wrong with the Easy other than that. Good job!

Normal

01:02:146 (2) - should be removed imo for the guitar

01:06:590 - you use 1/2 constantly throughout the map, but don't map this. Why? lol idk

found nothing wrong with the ~~Easy~~ Normal other than that. Good job!
Hard

00:00:738 (1) - not an issue with the object itself , but I don't know if having an object before the first timing point is rankable removed d

Other than the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V diff, a very nice set! Good luck with it!

No reply mean fixed~

Thanks for modding!

Lafayla

Nomination Assessment Team

349 posts

Joined December 2014

Lafayla 2017-11-02T16:16:38+00:00

Hello :3~
nm from my queue although i can hardly even call this mod because i barely found anything

Easy> no issues>
Normal> no issues>
advanced> no issues>
hard> no issues>

eLy's Insane>
00:00:812 (1) - eLy I wouldn't map this if I were you, it sounds weird because the melody begins on the 1/8 tick at 00:00:757 - with the snare coming in the blue tick before it, you probably wanted to have some variation bettween the different difficulties but... having the hitcircle there just sounds off,
Luka's mapped it to the red tick and made it less awkward by making it a burst, whether you want to apply a similar idea or just remove it entirely is up to you.

01:30:590 (3) - i like this because it leads into the blue tick percussion which keeps things i guess "fine" but then I see this 01:33:923 (5,1) - and this can be pretty awkward for people that do full alt like myself 01:33:923 (5,1) - I would make both of the rhythms the same, another alternative you can do is a slider from 01:33:923 - to 01:34:257 - , i think the former would be better because you map blue ticks sliders pretty often other than that nice diff

Lukas' Insane
00:52:590 (1) - meh this nc triggers me because it feels more mapped for the cymbals than it does for the voice, id just leave it part of combo
00:55:257 (3,4) - if you are going to nc every verse make sure its consistent, i personally think you should nc after every chorus line but this works fine too. i guess ~, just a big rip for follow lines, oh well
00:58:812 (3,4) - same thing
01:02:368 (3,4) -
01:04:368 (4) - nc would be better here to match your current nc pattern
01:09:479 (3,4) -
01:57:034 (1) - is this accidental nc?
01:59:479 - i think making this last crash a clickable would give better feel to ending

and thats it for mod
I'm sorry Shogun, even though you requested nm from me I didn't have mods for a single diff that you made LOL, as an apology take this star <3
Best wishes on the mapset :3

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-11-02T18:45:08+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
Hello :3~
nm from my queue although i can hardly even call this mod because i barely found anything

Easy> no issues>
Normal> no issues>
advanced> no issues>
hard> no issues>

I'm sorry Shogun, even though you requested nm from me I didn't have mods for a single diff that you made LOL, as an apology take this star <3 <33
Best wishes on the mapset :3

Thanks!! c:

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-11-03T09:48:50+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
eLy's Insane>
00:00:812 (1) - eLy I wouldn't map this if I were you, it sounds weird because the melody begins on the 1/8 tick at 00:00:757 - with the snare coming in the blue tick before it, you probably wanted to have some variation bettween the different difficulties but... having the hitcircle there just sounds off,
Luka's mapped it to the red tick and made it less awkward by making it a burst, whether you want to apply a similar idea or just remove it entirely is up to you.

see WasserIstGut's mod

01:30:590 (3) - i like this because it leads into the blue tick percussion which keeps things i guess "fine" but then I see this 01:33:923 (5,1) - and this can be pretty awkward for people that do full alt like myself 01:33:923 (5,1) - I would make both of the rhythms the same, another alternative you can do is a slider from 01:33:923 - to 01:34:257 - , i think the former would be better because you map blue ticks sliders pretty often other than that nice diff

I think that this degree is no problem because it is Insane

ty mod

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-11-03T09:53:17+00:00

Lafayla wrote:
Lukas' Insane
00:52:590 (1) - meh this nc triggers me because it feels more mapped for the cymbals than it does for the voice, id just leave it part of combo I don't see what's wrong with that nc
00:55:257 (3,4) - if you are going to nc every verse make sure its consistent, i personally think you should nc after every chorus line but this works fine too. i guess ~, just a big rip for follow lines, oh well ?
00:58:812 (3,4) - same thing ?
01:02:368 (3,4) -
01:04:368 (4) - nc would be better here to match your current nc pattern I don't think so
01:09:479 (3,4) -
01:57:034 (1) - is this accidental nc? oops fixed
01:59:479 - i think making this last crash a clickable would give better feel to ending same

updoot

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Rieri

906 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-11-05T06:45:22+00:00

Hello~ NM from my queue

Easy

00:04:590 (4) - nc like the ending?
00:14:146 (1) - disable nc cuz u did for 01:53:701 (4) -

Advanced

01:17:479 (1) - make this a pointed slider also, cuz the pointed slider after looks sorta random
01:58:368 (1,2,3) - i would add emphasis on the finish, not the snare

Hard

01:56:590 (4,5) - similar sounds should have similar patterns 01:54:812 (1,2,3) -

there's nothing to actually point out.. clean mapset, good luck.

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-11-05T16:58:20+00:00

ProEzreal wrote:
Hello~ NM from my queue

Easy
00:04:590 (4) - nc like the ending?
00:14:146 (1) - disable nc cuz u did for 01:53:701 (4) - no because this slider 00:14:146 (1) is more intense than 01:53:701 (4) - there is a cymbals on the first slider but not on the second slider this is why i put a nc

Advanced
01:17:479 (1) - make this a pointed slider also, cuz the pointed slider after looks sorta random
01:58:368 (1,2,3) - i would add emphasis on the finish, not the snare

Hard
01:56:590 (4,5) - similar sounds should have similar patterns 01:54:812 (1,2,3) -

there's nothing to actually point out.. clean mapset, good luck.

no reply mean fixed!

Thanks for modding!~

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-08T16:57:03+00:00

Lukas
00:10:590 (4) - More spacing here would be nice since you're already emphasising this beat with your choice of rhythm

00:14:812 (7,8) - Kick sliders are totally unnecessary, there's nothing at the tails at all and you're just mapping normal drum snares

00:25:479 (6,1,2) - and 00:26:368 (3,4,5) - if these are the same then why is one a 3/4 slider and the other a 1/2 slider?

00:32:590 (6) - ^

01:30:813 (2,3,4) - I find it amazing that you used a triplet here after spamming kicksliders in the whole map

01:50:145 (4) - same as my first point. Also nice copy pasting

There's just way too many kick sliders in the map that you just threw in for the sake of it tbh. Some don't even map anything at all like 01:55:923 (3) . Since the way you've used kicksliders makes them play the same as circles all those drum triplets end up being played as if they were jumps. So yeah....
[]w ~

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-11-08T17:03:24+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Lukas
00:10:590 (4) - More spacing here would be nice since you're already emphasising this beat with your choice of rhythm

00:14:812 (7,8) - Kick sliders are totally unnecessary, there's nothing at the tails at all and you're just mapping normal drum snares

00:25:479 (6,1,2) - and 00:26:368 (3,4,5) - if these are the same then why is one a 3/4 slider and the other a 1/2 slider?

00:32:590 (6) - ^

01:30:813 (2,3,4) - I find it amazing that you used a triplet here after spamming kicksliders in the whole map

01:50:145 (4) - same as my first point. Also nice copy pasting

There's just way too many kick sliders in the map that you just threw in for the sake of it tbh. Some don't even map anything at all like 01:55:923 (3) . Since the way you've used kicksliders makes them play the same as circles all those drum triplets end up being played as if they were jumps. So yeah....
[]w ~

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-08T22:48:20+00:00

Nice reply

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-11-09T22:49:47+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Nice reply

edit: i think he fixed everything :v

[Mad]

418 posts

Joined June 2014

[Mad] 2017-11-19T23:57:24+00:00

Hello! from queue:

[Lukas]
00:28:590 (5) - this note doesnt have nearly the same importance as 00:27:701 (1,2,3,4) - these, maybe make it into a sliderend or even just remove it, like what you did at 00:24:812 (4) - or 00:35:701 -
01:06:812 (1,2,3,4) - these are literally the biggest jumps in the whole map, and im not sure why. on a side note, if you want spacing like this, shouldnt 01:17:923 - also have that kind of spacing?
01:29:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - spacing on this seems really underwhelming compared to what youve done earlier, but really im just wondering why 01:30:146 (2,3) - is stacked
01:59:701 (1) - ending point on this spinner feels weird, maybe somewhere like at 02:04:479 - where the higher instument cuts out?

[eLy]
00:00:812 - 00:05:923 - your rhythm choice in this section feels weird, you start by following the guitar then follow the barely audible symbol in the background, it might be better to completely follow the foreground instruments until the drum actually kicks in
00:17:479 (3) - feels odd to have such a strong sound on the sliderend here, maybe turn it into a 1/2 slider and a note, since there still is a sound on the red tick
01:23:034 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - not sure why the spacing is increasing here so drastically, the intensity is pretty much the same for every note
01:34:257 (1,2) - this double feels pretty unintuitive, maybe something like turning 01:33:923 (5) - into a 3/4 slider?
01:46:590 (3) - blanket xd
also kiai time on this one is different from all the rest

[Hard]
01:07:701 (5) - i dont agree with putting this here, the actual drum roll doesnt start til 1/4 beat after, and theres actually no sound on the white tick at all, id start it on the blue tick and make it a 1/4 slider, or even make it into a 1/8 repeat slider
01:16:368 (3) - theres no sound here, if you want to keep it simple since its a hard diff, maybe make 01:16:146 (2) - into a 3/4 slider?
01:30:812 (4) - ^
01:18:146 (4) - another thing here, theres no drum beat on the red tick

[Advanced]
01:01:479 (1,2) - id reverse the lengths of these to give 1 more emphasis
01:29:034 (3,4) - these are weirdly overlapping

[Normal]
00:46:368 (6) - theres nothing all that important on this note, maybe make 00:46:146 (5) - into a 1/1 slider?

[Easy]
01:27:257 (2,3) - blanket xd
01:31:701 (2) - the reverse on this seems pretty unnecessary, especially when you ignore the drums on the whit ticks

fun map, now rank so i can get free 300pp xd

GL!

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-11-22T19:43:10+00:00

Shogud wrote:
Hello! from queue:

[eLy]
00:00:812 - 00:05:923 - your rhythm choice in this section feels weird, you start by following the guitar then follow the barely audible symbol in the background, it might be better to completely follow the foreground instruments until the drum actually kicks in
playing and there is no discomfort so keep this way
00:17:479 (3) - feels odd to have such a strong sound on the sliderend here, maybe turn it into a 1/2 slider and a note, since there still is a sound on the red tick
fixed
01:23:034 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - not sure why the spacing is increasing here so drastically, the intensity is pretty much the same for every note
fixed
01:34:257 (1,2) - this double feels pretty unintuitive, maybe something like turning 01:33:923 (5) - into a 3/4 slider?
fixed
01:46:590 (3) - blanket xd
fixed
also kiai time on this one is different from all the rest
oh, ty fix

http://puu.sh/yruNo/e3711e42bc.zip
ty mod

Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-11-25T01:43:11+00:00

Shogud wrote:
Hello! from queue:

[Hard]
01:07:701 (5) - i dont agree with putting this here, the actual drum roll doesnt start til 1/4 beat after, and theres actually no sound on the white tick at all, id start it on the blue tick and make it a 1/4 slider, or even make it into a 1/8 repeat slider kk
01:16:368 (3) - theres no sound here, if you want to keep it simple since its a hard diff, maybe make 01:16:146 (2) - into a 3/4 slider? there is a very weak drum if you listen carefully
01:30:812 (4) - ^ ^
01:18:146 (4) - another thing here, theres no drum beat on the red tick but there is vocal

[Advanced]
01:01:479 (1,2) - id reverse the lengths of these to give 1 more emphasis but on the head of slider2 there is a strong sound who need to be clickable imo
01:29:034 (3,4) - these are weirdly overlapping fixed

[Normal]
00:46:368 (6) - theres nothing all that important on this note, maybe make 00:46:146 (5) - into a 1/1 slider? there is guitar

[Easy]
01:27:257 (2,3) - blanket xd i raise slider renverse instead
01:31:701 (2) - the reverse on this seems pretty unnecessary, especially when you ignore the drums on the whit ticks ye fixed

fun map, now rank so i can get free 300pp xd lool waiting for bn now

GL!

Thanks for modding!~

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-11-25T21:11:55+00:00

Shogud wrote:
Hello! from queue:

[Lukas]
00:28:590 (5) - this note doesnt have nearly the same importance as 00:27:701 (1,2,3,4) - these, maybe make it into a sliderend or even just remove it, like what you did at 00:24:812 (4) - or 00:35:701 - No thanks, I like my current rhythm :/
01:06:812 (1,2,3,4) - these are literally the biggest jumps in the whole map, and im not sure why. on a side note, if you want spacing like this, shouldnt 01:17:923 - also have that kind of spacing? The part is very intense and it's the kiai itself which should be the hardest part of the map. I don't see why you would think that 01:17:923 - would have to spaced the same, it's less intense
01:29:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - spacing on this seems really underwhelming compared to what youve done earlier, but really im just wondering why 01:30:146 (2,3) - is stacked The part is calm and the vocals aren't intense, why those two circles are stacked is because of the same pitch in the background
01:59:701 (1) - ending point on this spinner feels weird, maybe somewhere like at 02:04:479 - where the higher instument cuts out? you can hear that the pitch of the guitar in the background goes lower so I thought that would be a good place to end the spinner

no change from me, sorry :/

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2017-12-18T18:29:54+00:00

[Easy]
00:08:146 - whistle works better for the head instead of clap for this diff since there's not really any like red or blue tick notes you can follow cuz easy lol

[Normal]
00:57:923 (1,2,3) - tbh this rhythm is awkward, i get you're trying to follow the drums but you're also kinda following the vocals in the kiai so having this where rhythm is prioritizing drums but also partially following vocals is just awk
01:12:146 (1,2,3) - same, in this case the repeat of 2 has the stronger vocal so it's more awkward that the weaker sounds are prioritized click-wise

[E. Insane]
01:24:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - prioritizing the white ticks (for jumps) here would make the jumps feel more meaningful, rn you have jumps that are all the same length that really take away from the build up in intensity here

[L. Insane]
00:18:368 (6) - having this as a 3/4 slider doesn't make as much sense as the previous once since there's some drum w/e going on in the bg clearly audible on the red tick
00:54:368 - tbh the thing that like REALLY bugs me about this diff is that there's like no introduction of anything with fast sliders so people just expect the 1/4 sliders like 00:55:034 (2) - to play like 1/2 because that's just how slow you've been making the 1/2 sliders

jumps feel somewhat overexaggerated imo, but w/e if you want to make a pp map go ahead i guess lol

not sure how i exactly feel about the last diff but other diffs are pretty fine (i really encourage ely to do his point though lol)

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-12-18T19:06:05+00:00

Battle wrote:
[L. Insane]
00:18:368 (6) - having this as a 3/4 slider doesn't make as much sense as the previous once since there's some drum w/e going on in the bg clearly audible on the red tick
00:54:368 - tbh the thing that like REALLY bugs me about this diff is that there's like no introduction of anything with fast sliders so people just expect the 1/4 sliders like 00:55:034 (2) - to play like 1/2 because that's just how slow you've been making the 1/2 sliders could you maybe recommend me a way to fix though, I'm a bit confused as to what I should do about it...

jumps feel somewhat overexaggerated imo, but w/e if you want to make a pp map go ahead i guess lol

not sure how i exactly feel about the last diff but other diffs are pretty fine (i really encourage ely to do his point though lol)

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2017-12-18T21:36:33+00:00

Battle wrote:

[E. Insane]
01:24:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - prioritizing the white ticks (for jumps) here would make the jumps feel more meaningful, rn you have jumps that are all the same length that really take away from the build up in intensity here
add,nc

thank you for moddimng Battle

http://puu.sh/yJgEl/f5ef882e83.zip

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-12-18T23:05:46+00:00

Battle wrote:

[Easy]
00:08:146 - whistle works better for the head instead of clap for this diff since there's not really any like red or blue tick notes you can follow cuz easy lol kk c':

[Normal]
00:57:923 (1,2,3) - tbh this rhythm is awkward, i get you're trying to follow the drums but you're also kinda following the vocals in the kiai so having this where rhythm is prioritizing drums but also partially following vocals is just awk fixed i decided to make vocals clickable, it's sound good now i think..
01:12:146 (1,2,3) - same, in this case the repeat of 2 has the stronger vocal so it's more awkward that the weaker sounds are prioritized click-wise same here but added a note on red tick for vocals

not sure how i exactly feel about the last diff but other diffs are pretty fine (i really encourage ely to do his point though lol)

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2017-12-19T03:04:04+00:00

@lukas i would just decrease the sv so you could like notice that it's not 1/2 but still have the same like fast movement u do

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-12-19T11:27:22+00:00

ok nice
sorry for delaying the qualify Shogun xD

fix uwu

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Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-12-19T20:18:08+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:

ok nice
sorry for delaying the qualify Shogun xD

fix uwu

osu file format v14

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Seolv

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Seolv 2017-12-21T18:28:55+00:00

had irc with battle and made some changes w

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Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2017-12-21T21:27:03+00:00

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Serizawa Haruki

1,678 posts

Joined June 2015

Serizawa Haruki 2018-01-04T04:05:29+00:00

Just a few minor suggestions about some things I noticed (not very important so you can also ignore this but whatever)

Easy

01:03:257 (3,1) - This blanket could be better tbh, you need to change the slidershapes a little and then rotate/move them
01:54:812 (1,2) - Same thing as above
01:56:590 (2,1) - You should try to avoid this overlap because you don't use overlaps anywhere else in this diff, it kinda looks weird right now

Advanced

01:17:479 (1,2) - Would look better if they were perfectly parallel

eLy's Insane

00:00:812 (1) - It would be more accurate to add a circle at 00:00:923 -
00:47:257 (1,2,3) - Blanket is noticeably off

Lukas' Insane

00:51:923 (5,6,1) - Blanket is off
01:37:923 (2,3) - Same as above

Btw I love this map <3 Good luck~

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2018-01-06T11:11:53+00:00

blanket mods *cries*

osu file format v14

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Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2018-01-14T00:48:56+00:00

J a c k wrote:
Just a few minor suggestions about some things I noticed (not very important so you can also ignore this but whatever)
Easy
01:03:257 (3,1) - This blanket could be better tbh, you need to change the slidershapes a little and then rotate/move them
01:54:812 (1,2) - Same thing as above
01:56:590 (2,1) - You should try to avoid this overlap because you don't use overlaps anywhere else in this diff, it kinda looks weird right now i added a overlap here because I want that the players notice a difference to warn the end <:
Advanced
01:17:479 (1,2) - Would look better if they were perfectly parallel

Btw I love this map <3 Good luck~

no reply mean fixed! Thanks for modding!~

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2018-02-11T21:52:23+00:00

Hi. Here from queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:43:701 (1) – rotate by 1 degree clockwise and move to 61, 58 for better distance/visuals into (2). (I realize this suggestion doesn't matter, but I made it already, so deal with it)

00:50:368 (4) – I was slightly confused by this circle. What's it trying to do? It feels better to me to just delete the circle and let the player pick the rhythm back up at the strong note on 00:50:812 (1) - . I don't think this circle is doing anything productive, and let me explain why. By not putting an object at 00:50:146 - , you tell the player that this drum sound isn't important and you shouldn't follow it. But then with the circle at 00:50:368 (4) – you tell them you should have been listening to the drums. If you do something at 00:50:146 - , maybe this rhythm track could work, but I like the long 5/2 pause.

01:03:257 (3) – woops

00:54:368 (1) – This kiai could support whistle hitsounds that go with the singer. Particularly at 01:03:257 (3) – , it would be nice to have it not be so empty, so a whistle layer would fit nicely.

01:17:479 (3,4,1) – This 3/2 gap is weird. What do you want to do here? Do you want to go with the vocals or not? I like the vocals, Easy players like the vocals, you seem to like the vocals, so syncopating the (1) slider to start at 01:19:034 – is perfectly fine (then just make it a 3/2 slider. You can keep the hitsound a cymbal cuz it's a strong note and it makes sense). If you really don't want to miss the cymbal at 01:19:257 (1) - , then give up on the vocal notes at 01:17:479 (3,4) – and go with the drums.

01:35:257 (3) – The corners of the screen are a bit of an awkward zone (it's hard for someone to move their cursor all the way down there, especially if they haven't played the game before). I don't think there is anything magnificent gained by going into the corner, so I'm confident you can find a safer alternative for the Easy player that doesn't sacrifice anything.

01:56:590 (2) – Rotate this 1 degree clockwise by selection center for a better blanket with (1).

[Normal]

00:01:035 (1,2) – The rhythm is fine here and this isn't a suggestion. I can tell you're following the drum. But the melody is doing something different by strictly going with the white ticks, so I always get tripped up by this
01:40:590 (1,2) - ^

00:22:368 (1) – I expected there to be some kind of rest/pause here. This chain of rhythms at 00:17:923 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – was a bit complex, so I expected some kind of reward for hitting this downbeat at 00:22:368 (1) – , and I think some kind of break would let the player feel that. The ½ slider, though, keeps it intense and makes me stay focused when I thought I already finished the section by clicking the downbeat at (1). You could do a 1/1 pause or a 1/1 slider, but do consider some amount of rest around this section.

00:35:479 (6,7) – This 3/2 rhythm is annoying, but I'm confident that this issue is on my end and not yours.

00:36:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – the note denisty increases compared to the last section, and I'm confused by that. It's hard to tell what (2) is trying to follow in the song because there really isn't a note there. Another problem I have is that the singer stops singing at 00:39:034 (6) – and then has nothing at 00:39:257 (7) - , so I expected a pause. This contradicts how you followed the singer at 00:31:257 (5,6,7) - . I get that you want to increase the pacing here and agree with it, but imo, you can communicate that change by following the vocals more densely since that is a more obvious track for the player to follow. Also, 00:38:146 – is an opportunity for you to get denser which allows you to insert a more intuitive pause earlier.

01:56:812 (2) – This object needs a hitsound. If it doesn't, then why is it here?

[Advanced]

00:17:034 (5,7) – These are very close which looks poor. Additionally, (6) could have 1.50x spacing. I think you mapped it this way because you don't very much room on the bottom. That's not really an excuse. Find a way to move 00:15:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – up and give yourself room.

01:00:590 (3,4) – Turn stacking on. Why is the DS 1.6?

01:01:034 (4,5) – The rhythm felt fast to me. Why not prioritize the melody by deleting (5) and making (4) a slider?

01:29:034 (3) – There isn't a note here in the music. Why have it be clickable?

[Hard]

00:39:701 – The rhythm around here felt off. The vocals and drum have a strong note here. I don't like that you're prioritizing the guitar's harmony over these stronger tracks. Making (4) into two circles would accommodate both rhythms, and the denser rhythm would also throw some zest into the circle → circle → slider rhythms. If you do, then consider other places to do this.

00:57:034 (5) – This slider is off-screen on smaller screen sizes. Find a way to move this to the right. And not just so that it's not clipping, leave a healthy margin as well.

01:27:257 (5,6,7,1) – The (6,7,1) is at this weird 177 degree angle which is a design that puts a lot of unwarranted emphasis onto how linear this is. The angle also doesn't look nice compared to the (5,6,7) angle. There are many ways for this to look better. One example: http://puu.sh/zl5UY/fefa41ef58.jpg

[Ely's diff]

00:13:479 (1,3) – The spacing between this is close which looks off. Can you space these out in some way, perhaps by rotating (3) by ten degrees clockwise?

00:21:479 (5,6,7,1) – I have trouble playing and understanding this pattern. It's hard to describe, but I think it's because (7) has a lot of emphasis because of its spacing, and when I play, I don't understand why this spacing is big while (6) has little spacing. I believe (6) is a stronger note than (7) since it starts the drum track. I'm also just bad at reading ¾ sliders and ¼ that aren't obviously ¼ sliders. However, I don't think there needs to be this level of complexity here in the music. Especially since the following section is quite calm, I don't like getting built up in a complex way only to turn that complexity all the way off. I think that the music at 01:07:479 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – is more accepting of the complex rhythm/spacing because it's in the kiai, and I'm properly engaged with the song/map to do it.

00:51:257 – This is a strong note in the song, and it feels empty that you haven't put something here (like a slider end). Playing this rhythm would be nice.

01:19:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) – I have an issue with this. To explain, look at 01:23:923 (1,2,3) – The intensity around here doesn't feel strong enough spacing-wise. These later objects are fine, I think the real problem is at 01:19:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) – . These earlier patterns set the baseline of intensity that I expect to receive. This baseline is a bit high. As a result, 01:23:923 (1,2,3) – doesn't have enough punch relative to the patterns before it. I feel that the earlier patterns are too intense because of it's note density and spacing. Constant ½ circles are engaging enough to keep me hyped up, so putting in a couple well placed sliders would give rest to cool me off a bit (In my mind, 01:19:701 (3,4) – and 01:21:034 (1,2) – would be good candidates to merge). Additionally, nerfing the spacing into 01:19:479 (2) – would set the baseline of my expectations a bit lower, especially since (2) is a weaker ½ note. Consider a more diamond pattern for this combo (if you don't do sliders). Lastly, the part around 01:21:923 (1) – is a bit high, so consider taking some emphasis/spacing away from this downbeat and instead putting it on 01:22:590 (1) – to connect big spacing with the new section of music as opposed to the old.

01:38:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) – this section was really tame (spacing-wise) compared to 01:24:589 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - . I wanted to be challenged more here.

[Lukas's diff]

I would like to discuss some things with Lukas before modding to try to give a better mod for this difficulty.

That Discussion

17:04 pinataman: hey lukas, pleasure to finally chat with you
17:04 pinataman: do you have some time to talk about your map?
17:04 [ L u k a s ]: succ
17:04 [ L u k a s ]: lmao sure
17:04 [ L u k a s ]: you don't have to be so formal btw xd
17:05 pinataman: im sorry, thats the kind of person I am, I'm sure I'll loosen up as we go XD
17:05 [ L u k a s ]: yeah
17:05 [ L u k a s ]: I already found an issue btw
17:05 [ L u k a s ]: lukas4bn tbh
17:05 [ L u k a s ]: 00:02:368 (5) - wtf dis so high pitch why u gotta stack m8 ;w;
17:06 pinataman: well, what I want to talk about is your mapping process
17:06 pinataman: I want to understand your inspirations on motion
17:06 pinataman: what causes you to move the player one way
17:06 pinataman: versus another
17:07 [ L u k a s ]: idk
17:07 [ L u k a s ]: why's mapping so complicated td
17:07 [ L u k a s ]: also I'm not sure what you mean by that
17:07 pinataman: yeah, let me try again
17:07 pinataman: so consider this slider
17:07 pinataman: it points to the right
17:07 [ L u k a s ]: yeah
17:07 pinataman: one option is to point it up
17:08 [ L u k a s ]: but I don't wanna
17:08 pinataman: which motion would be nicer? and why is it the one pointing right?
17:08 [ L u k a s ]: you're refering to 00:02:368 (5) - ?
17:08 pinataman: fuuuuu
17:08 pinataman: 00:08:812 (3) -
17:08 pinataman: did i not copy it
17:08 pinataman: lol mb
17:08 pinataman: i feel dumb now XD
17:09 [ L u k a s ]: idk I wanted to
17:09 [ L u k a s ]: make a different pattern
17:09 [ L u k a s ]: idk
17:09 [ L u k a s ]: make it interesting or whatever xd
17:09 pinataman: yeah I know the feel, sometimes you just want to do the thing you want to do
17:09 [ L u k a s ]: the gimmick here is a lot of copy pasting with same patterns but different slidershapes, as show by 00:11:701 (1,2,3) -
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: but sometimes that thing isn't really justified
17:10 pinataman: alright, so why did you want to set up the gimmick?
17:10 pinataman: what from the music inspired you to do that?
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: uh
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: because I'm lazy xd
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: jk
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: I wanted to do something different I guess
17:10 [ L u k a s ]: and I felt like the part was repetitive enough
17:10 pinataman: alright, well let me tell you what I think about motion
17:11 pinataman: motion is another tool to compare and contrast the music
17:11 pinataman: if your motion stays the same, its because I feel the song is being the same
17:11 pinataman: if the song is different, I make the motion different
17:11 pinataman: kind of like spacing in a way
17:12 [ L u k a s ]: true
17:12 [ L u k a s ]: well, idk but sometimes the motion doesn't have to be that strict
17:12 [ L u k a s ]: like in most ranked maps, sometimes the flow isn't really good
17:13 pinataman: that's true, but I think we should try our best as mappers to bring out the music
17:13 [ L u k a s ]: I agree
17:13 pinataman: that's why I was concerned when I played this pattern 00:40:146 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
17:13 pinataman: I feel the motion is very similar in each pattern
17:13 pinataman: and that didn't feel nice to play
17:13 [ L u k a s ]: it is
17:13 pinataman: I feel that sometimes the song changes, so I want to change with the song
17:14 [ L u k a s ]: if it's about the movement
17:14 [ L u k a s ]: then ok, I was doing everything randomly and didn't know what movement is and what importance it had
17:14 [ L u k a s ]: are you gonna bubble the map, because I'm going to remap the diff then
17:15 pinataman: I want to get a sense of how you want to remap it?
17:15 pinataman: to answer your question
17:15 pinataman: I would like to not bubble it in its current form
17:15 [ L u k a s ]: oh
17:15 pinataman: but I want to know how you would remap it before you invest your time into it
17:16 pinataman: because i think if you found another BN, they might rank it
17:16 [ L u k a s ]: I'm going to try to remap all the movement and correct some small issues such as rhythm and all
17:17 pinataman: okay, I'm happy to talk about other issues when I come back and mod the diff, I'm just concerned with the motion
17:17 pinataman: and I would like to see an example of what you would want to change
17:17 [ L u k a s ]: everything pretty much
17:17 pinataman: that's too vague
17:17 [ L u k a s ]: I don't like how the patterns were made, the flow, rhythm or anything
17:17 [ L u k a s ]: well idk how to say it otherwise really
17:18 pinataman: okay, can I point out something I might do that would address what I'm talking about?
17:18 pinataman: so at 00:43:034 (5,6) - , the rhythm changes from the drums to the guitar here
17:18 pinataman: this a pretty significant change in music
17:18 [ L u k a s ]: I already know all the issues yeah
17:19 pinataman: as a result, I wouldn't continue the clockwise motion that's been established
17:19 pinataman: alright
17:19 pinataman: cool
17:19 [ L u k a s ]: also some ignored vocals that are strong
17:19 [ L u k a s ]: 00:40:591 (3,3) - here
17:19 [ L u k a s ]: I'll call you when I remap everything
17:20 pinataman: well I'm happy that you like the vocals and want to map them, though I do feel that's subjective
17:20 pinataman: okay great
17:20 pinataman: thank you for discussing your map with me, I look forward to seeing what you do with it
17:20 [ L u k a s ]: thank you for improving it and showing all the mistakes I made

Will update this when I have finished my mod.

Last edited by Grrum 2018-02-16T19:58:43+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2018-02-13T00:27:48+00:00

J a c k wrote:
eLy's Insane
00:00:812 (1) - It would be more accurate to add a circle at 00:00:923 -
00:47:257 (1,2,3) - Blanket is noticeably off

all fixed

Erisan

375 posts

Joined August 2011

Erisan 2018-02-13T00:51:22+00:00

pinataman wrote:
[Ely's diff]

00:13:479 (1,3) – The spacing between this is close which looks off. Can you space these out in some way, perhaps by rotating (3) by ten degrees clockwise?

fix

00:21:479 (5,6,7,1) – I have trouble playing and understanding this pattern. It's hard to describe, but I think it's because (7) has a lot of emphasis because of its spacing, and when I play, I don't understand why this spacing is big while (6) has little spacing. I believe (6) is a stronger note than (7) since it starts the drum track. I'm also just bad at reading ¾ sliders and ¼ that aren't obviously ¼ sliders. However, I don't think there needs to be this level of complexity here in the music. Especially since the following section is quite calm, I don't like getting built up in a complex way only to turn that complexity all the way off. I think that the music at 01:07:479 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – is more accepting of the complex rhythm/spacing because it's in the kiai, and I'm properly engaged with the song/map to do it.

changed

00:51:257 – This is a strong note in the song, and it feels empty that you haven't put something here (like a slider end). Playing this rhythm would be nice.

I want to make kiai stand out as much as possible by reducing the sound before kiai as it is

01:19:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) – I have an issue with this. To explain, look at 01:23:923 (1,2,3) – The intensity around here doesn't feel strong enough spacing-wise. These later objects are fine, I think the real problem is at 01:19:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) – . These earlier patterns set the baseline of intensity that I expect to receive. This baseline is a bit high. As a result, 01:23:923 (1,2,3) – doesn't have enough punch relative to the patterns before it. I feel that the earlier patterns are too intense because of it's note density and spacing. Constant ½ circles are engaging enough to keep me hyped up, so putting in a couple well placed sliders would give rest to cool me off a bit (In my mind, 01:19:701 (3,4) – and 01:21:034 (1,2) – would be good candidates to merge). Additionally, nerfing the spacing into 01:19:479 (2) – would set the baseline of my expectations a bit lower, especially since (2) is a weaker ½ note. Consider a more diamond pattern for this combo (if you don't do sliders). Lastly, the part around 01:21:923 (1) – is a bit high, so consider taking some emphasis/spacing away from this downbeat and instead putting it on 01:22:590 (1) – to connect big spacing with the new section of music as opposed to the old.

changed

01:38:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) – this section was really tame (spacing-wise) compared to 01:24:589 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - . I wanted to be challenged more here.

ty mod

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Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2018-02-16T16:38:05+00:00

pinataman

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here from queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:43:701 (1) – rotate by 1 degree clockwise and move to 61, 58 for better distance/visuals into (2). (I realize this suggestion doesn't matter, but I made it already, so deal with it)

00:50:368 (4) – I was slightly confused by this circle. What's it trying to do? It feels better to me to just delete the circle and let the player pick the rhythm back up at the strong note on 00:50:812 (1) - . I don't think this circle is doing anything productive, and let me explain why. By not putting an object at 00:50:146 - , you tell the player that this drum sound isn't important and you shouldn't follow it. But then with the circle at 00:50:368 (4) – you tell them you should have been listening to the drums. If you do something at 00:50:146 - , maybe this rhythm track could work, but I like the long 5/2 pause.

01:03:257 (3) – woops xd

00:54:368 (1) – This kiai could support whistle hitsounds that go with the singer. Particularly at 01:03:257 (3) – , it would be nice to have it not be so empty, so a whistle layer would fit nicely.

01:17:479 (3,4,1) – This 3/2 gap is weird. What do you want to do here? Do you want to go with the vocals or not? I like the vocals, Easy players like the vocals, you seem to like the vocals, so syncopating the (1) slider to start at 01:19:034 – is perfectly fine (then just make it a 3/2 slider. You can keep the hitsound a cymbal cuz it's a strong note and it makes sense). If you really don't want to miss the cymbal at 01:19:257 (1) - , then give up on the vocal notes at 01:17:479 (3,4) – and go with the drums.

01:35:257 (3) – The corners of the screen are a bit of an awkward zone (it's hard for someone to move their cursor all the way down there, especially if they haven't played the game before). I don't think there is anything magnificent gained by going into the corner, so I'm confident you can find a safer alternative for the Easy player that doesn't sacrifice anything.

01:56:590 (2) – Rotate this 1 degree clockwise by selection center for a better blanket with (1).

[Normal]

00:01:035 (1,2) – The rhythm is fine here and this isn't a suggestion. I can tell you're following the drum. But the melody is doing something different by strictly going with the white ticks, so I always get tripped up by this
01:40:590 (1,2) - ^

00:22:368 (1) – I expected there to be some kind of rest/pause here. This chain of rhythms at 00:17:923 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – was a bit complex, so I expected some kind of reward for hitting this downbeat at 00:22:368 (1) – , and I think some kind of break would let the player feel that. The ½ slider, though, keeps it intense and makes me stay focused when I thought I already finished the section by clicking the downbeat at (1). You could do a 1/1 pause or a 1/1 slider, but do consider some amount of rest around this section.

00:35:479 (6,7) – This 3/2 rhythm is annoying, but I'm confident that this issue is on my end and not yours. :v

00:36:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – the note denisty increases compared to the last section, and I'm confused by that. It's hard to tell what (2) is trying to follow in the song because there really isn't a note there. Another problem I have is that the singer stops singing at 00:39:034 (6) – and then has nothing at 00:39:257 (7) - , so I expected a pause. This contradicts how you followed the singer at 00:31:257 (5,6,7) - . I get that you want to increase the pacing here and agree with it, but imo, you can communicate that change by following the vocals more densely since that is a more obvious track for the player to follow. Also, 00:38:146 – is an opportunity for you to get denser which allows you to insert a more intuitive pause earlier.

01:56:812 (2) – This object needs a hitsound. If it doesn't, then why is it here?

[Advanced]

00:17:034 (5,7) – These are very close which looks poor. Additionally, (6) could have 1.50x spacing. I think you mapped it this way because you don't very much room on the bottom. That's not really an excuse. Find a way to move 00:15:257 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – up and give yourself room.

01:00:590 (3,4) – Turn stacking on. Why is the DS 1.6?

01:01:034 (4,5) – The rhythm felt fast to me. Why not prioritize the melody by deleting (5) and making (4) a slider? im not agree with that, i put 2 circles for emphasis more drums, normally it's a triplet but it's a advanced and i don't wanted to map it, I just want to highlight it to show that this part should be important for drums.

01:29:034 (3) – There isn't a note here in the music. Why have it be clickable? woops

[Hard]

00:39:701 – The rhythm around here felt off. The vocals and drum have a strong note here. I don't like that you're prioritizing the guitar's harmony over these stronger tracks. Making (4) into two circles would accommodate both rhythms, and the denser rhythm would also throw some zest into the circle → circle → slider rhythms. If you do, then consider other places to do this.

00:57:034 (5) – This slider is off-screen on smaller screen sizes. Find a way to move this to the right. And not just so that it's not clipping, leave a healthy margin as well.

01:27:257 (5,6,7,1) – The (6,7,1) is at this weird 177 degree angle which is a design that puts a lot of unwarranted emphasis onto how linear this is. The angle also doesn't look nice compared to the (5,6,7) angle. There are many ways for this to look better. One example: http://puu.sh/zl5UY/fefa41ef58.jpg

Will update this when I have finished my mod.

no reply mean fixed!

thanks for modding!

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2018-02-23T11:20:11+00:00

hey
sorry for late response but I just finished my diff and I noticed you changed the metadata, so I decided to change it as well before giving you the diff, and when I saved it just deleted my diff (it said "file exists with same metadata, do you wish to overwrite")

sorry but I don't think I can finish my GD at least for another two days or so, PM me if you want to rank it without my diff

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Topic Starter

Shunao 2018-02-23T17:03:51+00:00

here we go!

Nevo

Global Moderator

1,182 posts

Joined November 2015

Nevo 2018-02-24T06:02:31+00:00

Kalibe's Insane
00:57:257 (1) - maybe unnc this
01:25:257 (2) - could use more spacing since its not exactly that weak of a beat imo
01:26:146 (2,3,1) - i wouldnt stack this with 01:25:257 (2,2) - so you can reflect the change in the song
01:40:368 - circle here could work since theres a vocal
01:57:257 (3) - nc becasue finish
01:58:812 (3) - nc because kick
02:04:146 - have the hitsound volume decrease from this point because this is where the song fades and those slider ticks are pretty loud :<
silence slider end :<<<

i was only told to mod this diff so c:

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2018-02-24T11:30:37+00:00

Nevo wrote:
Kalibe's Insane
00:57:257 (1) - maybe unnc this want to be consistent with 01:03:923 (1,2,3,1) - etc
01:25:257 (2) - could use more spacing since its not exactly that weak of a beat imo just a little bit
01:26:146 (2,3,1) - i wouldnt stack this with 01:25:257 (2,2) - so you can reflect the change in the song ok
01:40:368 - circle here could work since theres a vocal ok
01:57:257 (3) - nc becasue finish d
01:58:812 (3) - nc because kick w
02:04:146 - have the hitsound volume decrease from this point because this is where the song fades and those slider ticks are pretty loud :<
silence slider end :<<< sure

i was only told to mod this diff so c:

thanks nevo :3c

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A r M i N

1,305 posts

Joined October 2014

A r M i N 2018-02-27T17:47:23+00:00

HI quick shit mod for lukas diff, as requested

00:07:034 - make this clickable
00:16:479 - sound here, so try https://puu.sh/zwTyE/7b5ec32af6.png
00:19:701 (2) - ^
00:29:034 (5,1) - stack
00:32:590 (6) - use ds pls, equal spacing to 5 and 7
00:50:146 (1) - nc
00:51:479 (2,3,4) - make it straight pls
00:54:146 (2) - bit hard to read, maybe move it away
00:56:923 (4) - blanket it like that https://puu.sh/zwTFV/0b061e3d9a.png
01:02:146 (2,3,4) - wtf spacing
01:11:257 (5) - here u use slider but here 00:57:034 (5,6,7) - u use circles, pls make it consistent
01:12:812 (3,4,5) - equal spacing plzzz
01:15:590 (8) - ^
01:16:479 (5) - ^
01:17:590 (2) - ^
01:18:257 (6) - ^
01:22:701 (9) - ^
01:26:146 (6,7,1) - ^
01:29:146 (4,5) - ^
01:47:590 (8,1) - ^
01:30:923 (6) -
01:29:701 (7) -

ETC... please dont be so lazy, and actually make straight lines with the same spacing, this happens on basically all triples.. this just doesnt look polished and Its not easy for the player to hit those notes consistently, since they are so randomly spaced pls fix

01:18:590 (8) - NC
01:32:812 (6) - 1/2 spacing lower than 1/4?

done, good luck :3

Chalwa

1,105 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2018-02-27T18:02:43+00:00

only Lukas' diff how ShogunMoon (:D) wrote.

Disable Widescreen Support how it's made in other diffs.
00:09:923 (1) - The strong sound in the middle of this slider is just skipped which is kinda weird for player when he'll play next combo and has this sound clickable. I would suggest you to make here that rhythm how it is on 00:13:479 (1,2) or with three circles.
00:24:146 (1,2,3,4) - This jumps, especially a (2,3) aren't following a music. You followed vocal which is 100% fine, but then why you've putted the smallest DS in the strongest sound in pattern?
00:56:812 (3,4,5,6,7) - The burst has really good shape to this part, but the start of it is unreadable a bit. I felt when I was playing this diff 00:56:812 (3,4,5) has a 1/2 break within them. Since in the rest of the map you haven't putted a burst like this, could you make DS everywhere the same in burst?
01:42:367 (1) - The same as in first point.
01:59:479 - On that strong sound you should put a note especially when it's putted in 01:59:034 (4). Then just move the spinner to 01:59:590.

orz

also there are some ds warnings, but they aren't that bad how the one i've mentioned.

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2018-02-27T19:05:55+00:00

A r M i N wrote:
HI quick shit mod for lukas diff, as requested

00:07:034 - make this clickable I was trying to have lower density at the beginning, and the sound isn't as prominent if you listen to it without the hitsounds. Of course it's strong, but I think that the drum sounds on 00:07:701 (6,7,8) - are far more prominent, therefore deserve more emphasis
00:16:479 - sound here, so try https://puu.sh/zwTyE/7b5ec32af6.png same as above, I wanted drastic changes in note density for far less emphasied parts
00:19:701 (2) - ^ same as above, I wanted drastic changes in note density for far less emphasied parts
00:29:034 (5,1) - stack
00:32:590 (6) - use ds pls, equal spacing to 5 and 7
00:50:146 (1) - nc
00:51:479 (2,3,4) - make it straight pls
00:54:146 (2) - bit hard to read, maybe move it away rejected because it was my intention, that's what makes it an extra, not only the higher spaced 1/4
00:56:923 (4) - blanket it like that https://puu.sh/zwTFV/0b061e3d9a.png blanket wasn't my intention and it ruins the flow
01:02:146 (2,3,4) - wtf spacing
01:11:257 (5) - here u use slider but here 00:57:034 (5,6,7) - u use circles, pls make it consistent
01:12:812 (3,4,5) - equal spacing plzzz
01:15:590 (8) - ^
01:16:479 (5) - ^
01:17:590 (2) - ^
01:18:257 (6) - ^
01:22:701 (9) - ^
01:26:146 (6,7,1) - ^
01:29:146 (4,5) - ^
01:47:590 (8,1) - ^
01:30:923 (6) -
01:29:701 (7) -

ETC... please dont be so lazy, and actually make straight lines with the same spacing, this happens on basically all triples.. this just doesnt look polished and Its not easy for the player to hit those notes consistently, since they are so randomly spaced pls fix I remapped this 2 times please don't call me lazy TT

01:18:590 (8) - NC
01:32:812 (6) - 1/2 spacing lower than 1/4? it's same spacing, making it harder for players to read which was my intention to make it harder,
I put an NC tho

done, good luck :3

Chalwa wrote:
only Lukas' diff how ShogunMoon (:D) wrote.
Disable Widescreen Support how it's made in other diffs. why do so many people care about this it literally doesn't make a change aaaaaaaaaaa fixed
00:09:923 (1) - The strong sound in the middle of this slider is just skipped which is kinda weird for player when he'll play next combo and has this sound clickable. I would suggest you to make here that rhythm how it is on 00:13:479 (1,2) or with three circles. adressed in armin's mod
00:24:146 (1,2,3,4) - This jumps, especially a (2,3) aren't following a music. You followed vocal which is 100% fine, but then why you've putted the smallest DS in the strongest sound in pattern? I was following vocal pitch and organized my spacing in the whole map around that, when the pitch changes or gets more intense I put bigger spacing
00:56:812 (3,4,5,6,7) - The burst has really good shape to this part, but the start of it is unreadable a bit. I felt when I was playing this diff 00:56:812 (3,4,5) has a 1/2 break within them. Since in the rest of the map you haven't putted a burst like this, could you make DS everywhere the same in burst? nah, I wanted to make it harder for players, because extra diffs aren't just jumps, you need to have good reading skill to FC
01:42:367 (1) - The same as in first point. ^^;;
01:59:479 - On that strong sound you should put a note especially when it's putted in 01:59:034 (4). Then just move the spinner to 01:59:590.

orz

also there are some ds warnings, but they aren't that bad how the one i've mentioned.

uwuwuwuwuwuw

fix fix~

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Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2018-03-01T19:45:22+00:00

Kalibe's

01:59:479 (1) - slider goes on even after music is over. This feels too long, I'd rather just end the map. Consider ending at 02:04:590 – or 02:05:479 – (earlier the better imo).

Lukas

Disable widescreen support. It takes 2 seconds, so rather than type out a response, just change it.

00:21:923 (5,6,7) – This spacing is nuts. There's a huge jump from calm to intense, and it feels bad. I need some kind of transition between moving calmly and moving rapidly.
00:15:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – Part of the problem stems from this feeling wholly underwhelming. I get that the song is calm and you want to reflect that. However, I don't feel like I'm playing the game since these rhythms don't give me enough to interact with. As a result, this section is a bit boring rather than expressive.

00:30:257 (3,4) – This is nuts. The “tsu” lyric is a hushed vocal and isn't really sung at all, which makes me feel like the song is weak here. The map is the opposite. A ¼ rhythm like this plays very intensely, which also goes against the general calm feeling from this section. It's kind of like saying if someone sang “spy” in English, then they sing for two syllables. One is a hushed “su” lyric before a pronounced “pie” lyric. It's very similar to what's going on here, and it just plays like horseradish.

00:37:479 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) – I had a suspicion I wasn't really getting my point across when I had my chat with you. This pattern is also just moving in the same circle without showing off the differences in the song through motion. The problem that existed before still exists. As for the rest of the stuff you changed in this new difficulty, it's not that you made it better, you made it for a different audience who likes a different thing. That's fine, I can see the intended experience you're delivering, but I was one of the people who liked your other map more. I actually don't like ¼ spaced stuff, so I feel a bit bait-and-switched. Anyway, don't change anything here since I don't think it's worth your time to change something that's technically rankable.

00:55:479 (5,7) – Do these have to be perfectly stacked? It's hard for me to see them. Why make this hard to read? By offsetting the circles a little bit, I'm able to read the pattern better, which I feel provides a better play experience.

01:01:034 (6,7,8,1) – The 6 → 7 → 8 flow is a bit awkward. I have to move a tiny bit up to get to (7), and this really throws me off to then go the other direction to (8). I personally suck so much at ¼ spacing so I'm not sure if this is really an issue, but it also feels weird how 6,7,8 are just slightly off from being pure linear.

01:11:034 (3) – missing hitsound

01:56:590 (1,2) – Objects are really close. This looks a bit odd/poor. Also since we're here, 01:56:146 (6,1) – might be able to blanket, so consider a change like: http://puu.sh/zyr9X/e301698045.jpg

01:59:479 (1) – make a hitsound?

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2018-03-01T21:43:58+00:00

shortered slider

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:サリシノハラ
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Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2018-03-01T22:09:22+00:00

pinataman wrote:
Lukas

Disable widescreen support. It takes 2 seconds, so rather than type out a response, just change it. fixedddd

00:21:923 (5,6,7) – This spacing is nuts. There's a huge jump from calm to intense, and it feels bad. I need some kind of transition between moving calmly and moving rapidly. the drums are sudden so I think it fits enough, it's an extra after all
00:15:257 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – Part of the problem stems from this feeling wholly underwhelming. I get that the song is calm and you want to reflect that. However, I don't feel like I'm playing the game since these rhythms don't give me enough to interact with. As a result, this section is a bit boring rather than expressive. The song is calm, the part is calm, so it is expressive and representative of the song in the right way, in my opinion this wouldn't be much of a problem

00:30:257 (3,4) – This is nuts. The “tsu” lyric is a hushed vocal and isn't really sung at all, which makes me feel like the song is weak here. The map is the opposite. A ¼ rhythm like this plays very intensely, which also goes against the general calm feeling from this section. It's kind of like saying if someone sang “spy” in English, then they sing for two syllables. One is a hushed “su” lyric before a pronounced “pie” lyric. It's very similar to what's going on here, and it just plays like horseradish. true

00:37:479 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) – I had a suspicion I wasn't really getting my point across when I had my chat with you. This pattern is also just moving in the same circle without showing off the differences in the song through motion. The problem that existed before still exists. As for the rest of the stuff you changed in this new difficulty, it's not that you made it better, you made it for a different audience who likes a different thing. That's fine, I can see the intended experience you're delivering, but I was one of the people who liked your other map more. I actually don't like ¼ spaced stuff, so I feel a bit bait-and-switched. Anyway, don't change anything here since I don't think it's worth your time to change something that's technically rankable. I didn't really understand what I should've changed, the changes here are slight. Although it technically is rankable, I'd much rather have a better map than a just average and rankable map, so I'll try to apply your point as good as I can

00:55:479 (5,7) – Do these have to be perfectly stacked? It's hard for me to see them. Why make this hard to read? By offsetting the circles a little bit, I'm able to read the pattern better, which I feel provides a better play experience. Refer to my replies above, a point of an extra is to be somewhat challenging and that's what I wanted to achieve

01:01:034 (6,7,8,1) – The 6 → 7 → 8 flow is a bit awkward. I have to move a tiny bit up to get to (7), and this really throws me off to then go the other direction to (8). I personally suck so much at ¼ spacing so I'm not sure if this is really an issue, but it also feels weird how 6,7,8 are just slightly off from being pure linear.

01:11:034 (3) – missing hitsound I don't think that's unintentional tbh, there isn't a hitsound in that same part in the previous section either so I'm assuming it's on purpose

01:56:590 (1,2) – Objects are really close. This looks a bit odd/poor. Also since we're here, 01:56:146 (6,1) – might be able to blanket, so consider a change like: http://puu.sh/zyr9X/e301698045.jpg

01:59:479 (1) – make a hitsound?

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Shunao

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Topic Starter

Shunao 2018-03-02T00:28:13+00:00

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- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2018-03-09T04:16:17+00:00

mainly focus on rhythm
~~metadata?~~ eeeeee my bad

[General]

the difficulty gap between hard and eLy's insane is pretty high in terms of star rating and aiming. you could notice that hard difficulty uses constant spacing among difficulty, while eLy's insane difficulty uses high spacing between hitobjects (such as 01:58:812 (3,4) - ). so it might be better to add a difficulty between these difficulties, like light insane. in order to make the difficulty spread better.
02:06:368 - use 5%-volume green line here will be better since there is literally no sound here.
It's a cut version, so I'd recommend to add "cut version" in tags too.

[Easy]

00:53:479 (2) - since the sound here isn't really dominant, so i think this hitcircle shouldn't be here. might be better to make a reverse on 00:52:590 (1) -, in order to represent the song's intensity.
01:31:479 - the vocal here is pretty discernible, players could get easily confused that the slider 01:31:701 (2) - is placed at 01:31:479 -. and since the previous hitobjects have been followed the vocal rhythm, so i think 01:29:923 (1,2) - should too. for instance, you could do something like this in order to represent the vocal sound at here.

In general, I think kiai section could be more variety. Using only 1/1 sliders and 3/2 sliders might be a little bit uninteresting. I'd recommend to add 2/1 sliders for variety. For example, 00:56:146 (3,4) - could be instead 2/1 sliders. This will make variety among kiai section and looks more interesting.

[Normal]

I think you could better use circle size 3.2, in order to make it different from Advanced difficulty since current circle sizes of Normal and Advanced difficulties are the same.
00:03:479 (5) - idk what that sound called, but there is also the same sound at 00:03:701 -. so i think this spot could be a circle and a 1/2 slider with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead of 1/1 slider, in order to emphasize the sound's rhythm better.
00:57:923 (1) - i don't think using 1/1 slider here is suitable with the vocal's rhythm. as the lyric here is "独り (ひとり)" so i'm pretty sure that there is a vocal at 00:58:146 -. So I think using a 1/2 slider and a reverse here could represent the vocal's rhythm better, rather than using a 1/1 slider.

[Advanced]

00:03:479 (5) - As same as Normal difficulty here, so using a circle and a 1/2 slider with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead of 1/1 slider, in order to emphasize the sound's rhythm better.
00:36:146 (4,5,1) - since both the instrumental sound and vocal sound here are pretty dominant, making the hitobjects stacked to one another isn't really suitable with the song's intensity here since the hitobjects give really low movement to players, and that makes these give less feedback to players. So I'd recommend to unstack these hitobjects in order to make the hitobjects here give more feedback to players.
00:48:812 (5) - there is literally no dominant sound here to make this hitcircle at this spot exist. I think it might be better to make this part 00:48:590 (4,5) - become 1/2 slider instead.

[Hard]

00:43:701 (1,2,3) - will be better to swap these hitobjects since the vocal sound at 00:43:701 -, 00:43:923 - and 00:44:146 -, while there is no vocal sound at 00:44:368 - at all.
00:46:590 (4,5) - swap these too, because the vocal sound at 00:46:812 - has more density than the other vocal sounds in this part.
01:21:923 (3,4,6,7,1) - players could be easily confused since all of them are stacked to one another. since the previous hitcircles 01:21:923 (3,4) - are stacked with 1/2-beat long gap between hitobjects, players' intuition will understand that these hitobjects 01:22:590 (6,7,1) - also have 1/2-beat gap long among each hitobject too, making players gathering 100s or even a miss here. So I'd recommend you to unstack these hitcircles 01:21:923 (3,4) - instead to avoid making an unfair reading challenge for players.
01:58:368 (1) - might be better to use 2 circles with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead since both sounds at slider start and slider end has the same dominant sound.

This difficulty itself is pretty fine but next time please try to use inconsistent spacing in some spots, for variety.

[eLy's Insane]

00:00:812 (1,2) - there is no other difficulty that map this part but you. So I think you could remove these for consistency among mapset.
00:07:701 (6,7,1) - The visual spacing here is as the same as the hitobjects with 1/2-beat gap between each hitobjects (like 00:07:479 (5,6) -). So try to make these hitobjects become nearer to each other or make the hitobjects 00:07:479 (5,6) - go further to each other, to make a distinct visual spacing to avoid having an unfair reading problem to players. As same as 00:13:923 (2,3,4,5) -.
00:21:923 (6,7,1) - the spacing between each hitobjects here is kinda ambiguous here. since the previous stacked hitcircles like 00:20:034 (4,5) - are stacked with 1/4-beat long gap between hitobjects, players' intuition will understand that these hitobjects 00:22:146 (7,1) - are also have 1/4-beat gap long between each hitobject too, making players gathering 100s or even a miss here. So I'd recommend you to add a reverse at 00:21:923 (6) - to avoid having an unfair reading challenge for players.
00:54:368 (2,3) - the spacing between these hitobjects is pretty huge compared to the rest of the kiai section. So it might be better to make the spacing here lower, by moving the slider 00:54:368 (2) - nearer to the slider's head of 00:54:812 (3) -.
01:36:368 (4) - might be better to make this slider become 3/2-beat long slider there is a dominant sound at 01:36:812 -. using the 3/2 slider will represent the vocal sound at here better than slider tick.

[Kalibe's Insane]

Widescreen support is inconsistent and this map doesn't have a storyboard, so disable it.
00:01:479 (2,3) - it would be better if you make this part here the same rhythm as 00:03:257 (2,3,1) -, so they could emphasize the instrumental sound better.
00:21:479 (2,1) - the flow here goes pretty unnaturally. since the slider 00:21:479 (2) - goes downwards, players' intuition will focus on downside instead. this could make players easily not see the slider 00:21:923 (1) -, which makes the players gather 100s or even a miss here. (I tried playing this in first time and I missed here xp) So I'd recommend you to move the slider to somewhere like this instead.
00:27:701 (1,2) - using the same rhythm as 00:24:146 (1,2,3,4) - will make the hitobjects in this part here emphasize the instrumental sound better. As same as 00:31:257 (1,2,3,4) -.

[Lukas' Extra]

It might be better to increase the overall difficulty, because you know.. it's extra difficulty. *shrug*
00:07:923 (7,8,1) - There is no sign to indicate players for the differentiation of this transition of the hitobjects gap, so these hitobjects might be too sudden for players. I'd highly recommend you to add a new combo here. As same as 00:21:923 (5) -, 00:36:368 (6) - and the rest among your difficulty.
00:48:555 (1) - Don't be edgy here.
00:57:034 (5) - Since the spacing changes, I'd recommend you to add a new combo also to indicate the transition in spacing. As same as 01:11:257 (5) -
00:58:590 (3,4,5,6) - It's technically spaced differently, but in my intuition, I think players could easily misunderstand that these hitobjects are also 1/4 because of the same visual spacing. Try to make the hitcircle 00:59:034 (6) - move further to avoid making an unfair reading issue to players.

I will see how you handle the mod and stuff, and consider if I'll nominate this or not.
It might be a little bit late, but this is my birthday present for you. :3c

Last edited by - Frontier - 2018-03-10T04:25:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2018-03-09T14:47:07+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
[Kalibe's Insane]
Widescreen support is inconsistent and this map doesn't have a storyboard, so disable it. not really nessesary tbh but ok
00:01:479 (2,3) - it would be better if you make this part here the same rhythm as 00:03:257 (2,3,1) -, so they could emphasize the instrumental sound better. sure
00:21:479 (2,1) - the flow here goes pretty unnaturally. since the slider 00:21:479 (2) - goes downwards, players' intuition will focus on downside instead. this could make players easily not see the slider 00:21:923 (1) -, which makes the players gather 100s or even a miss here. (I tried playing this in first time and I missed here xp) So I'd recommend you to move the slider to somewhere like this instead. that was my intention to do antiflow here, next sounds 00:21:923 (1,2) - are pretty strong so i want to emphasize by it
00:27:701 (1,2) - using the same rhythm as 00:24:146 (1,2,3,4) - will make the hitobjects in this part here emphasize the instrumental sound better. As same as 00:31:257 (1,2,3,4) -. ok

hell ye

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Shunao

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Shunao 2018-03-13T01:19:20+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
mainly focus on rhythm
~~metadata?~~ eeeeee my bad

[General]
the difficulty gap between hard and eLy's insane is pretty high in terms of star rating and aiming. you could notice that hard difficulty uses constant spacing among difficulty, while eLy's insane difficulty uses high spacing between hitobjects (such as 01:58:812 (3,4) - ). so it might be better to add a difficulty between these difficulties, like light insane. in order to make the difficulty spread better. I don't think that the diff gap is a very big problem tbh, Hard has alot of triplets and is pretty dense i don't think that is a good idea to add a new diff :/
02:06:368 - use 5%-volume green line here will be better since there is literally no sound here. done!
It's a cut version, so I'd recommend to add "cut version" in tags too. ^
[Easy]
00:53:479 (2) - since the sound here isn't really dominant, so i think this hitcircle shouldn't be here. might be better to make a reverse on 00:52:590 (1) -, in order to represent the song's intensity. okk
01:31:479 - the vocal here is pretty discernible, players could get easily confused that the slider 01:31:701 (2) - is placed at 01:31:479 -. and since the previous hitobjects have been followed the vocal rhythm, so i think 01:29:923 (1,2) - should too. for instance, you could do something like this in order to represent the vocal sound at here. yup
In general, I think kiai section could be more variety. Using only 1/1 sliders and 3/2 sliders might be a little bit uninteresting. I'd recommend to add 2/1 sliders for variety. For example, 00:56:146 (3,4) - could be instead 2/1 sliders. This will make variety among kiai section and looks more interesting. yes you're right

[Normal]
I think you could better use circle size 3.2, in order to make it different from Advanced difficulty since current circle sizes of Normal and Advanced difficulties are the same. ok
00:03:479 (5) - idk what that sound called, but there is also the same sound at 00:03:701 -. so i think this spot could be a circle and a 1/2 slider with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead of 1/1 slider, in order to emphasize the sound's rhythm better. i follow the guitar rhythm and this pattern work very well
00:57:923 (1) - i don't think using 1/1 slider here is suitable with the vocal's rhythm. as the lyric here is "独り (ひとり)" so i'm pretty sure that there is a vocal at 00:58:146 -. So I think using a 1/2 slider and a reverse here could represent the vocal's rhythm better, rather than using a 1/1 slider. yep
[Advanced]
00:03:479 (5) - As same as Normal difficulty here, so using a circle and a 1/2 slider with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead of 1/1 slider, in order to emphasize the sound's rhythm better. like i said in the normal xd
00:36:146 (4,5,1) - since both the instrumental sound and vocal sound here are pretty dominant, making the hitobjects stacked to one another isn't really suitable with the song's intensity here since the hitobjects give really low movement to players, and that makes these give less feedback to players. So I'd recommend to unstack these hitobjects in order to make the hitobjects here give more feedback to players. okay
00:48:812 (5) - there is literally no dominant sound here to make this hitcircle at this spot exist. I think it might be better to make this part 00:48:590 (4,5) - become 1/2 slider instead.fixed!
[Hard]
00:43:701 (1,2,3) - will be better to swap these hitobjects since the vocal sound at 00:43:701 -, 00:43:923 - and 00:44:146 -, while there is no vocal sound at 00:44:368 - at all. i don't want to spam circles tbh and you can know that i don't wanted to map vocals atm i prefered mapped the rhythm
00:46:590 (4,5) - swap these too, because the vocal sound at 00:46:812 - has more density than the other vocal sounds in this part. fixed
01:21:923 (3,4,6,7,1) - players could be easily confused since all of them are stacked to one another. since the previous hitcircles 01:21:923 (3,4) - are stacked with 1/2-beat long gap between hitobjects, players' intuition will understand that these hitobjects 01:22:590 (6,7,1) - also have 1/2-beat gap long among each hitobject too, making players gathering 100s or even a miss here. So I'd recommend you to unstack these hitcircles 01:21:923 (3,4) - instead to avoid making an unfair reading challenge for players. ok
01:58:368 (1) - might be better to use 2 circles with 1/2-beat gap long between each hitobjects instead since both sounds at slider start and slider end has the same dominant sound. ok!
This difficulty itself is pretty fine but next time please try to use inconsistent spacing in some spots, for variety. fixed!

I will see how you handle the mod and stuff, and consider if I'll nominate this or not.
It might be a little bit late, but this is my birthday present for you. :3c Thanks a lot!! owo

i don't have time for normal, adavnced and hard now im gonna check this later

Last edited by Shunao 2018-03-16T20:19:15+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

Shunao

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Shunao 2018-03-15T18:32:20+00:00

removed lukas diff since he's not here anymore, i send him some message (in discord too) but he didn't responded so i think he don't want to check his diff

- Frontier -

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- Frontier - 2018-03-18T13:07:32+00:00

Shunao wrote:
[Hard]
00:43:701 (1,2,3) - will be better to swap these hitobjects since the vocal sound at 00:43:701 -, 00:43:923 - and 00:44:146 -, while there is no vocal sound at 00:44:368 - at all. i don't want to spam circles tbh and you can know that i don't wanted to map vocals atm i prefered mapped the rhythm

i'm okay with your reason, but still.. making the sound at 00:44:368 - clickable doesn't seem to make sense at all. at least you could make 00:44:146 (2,3) - a 1/2 slider instead is ok.

00:01:035 - is it intentional to make 70% volume here? seems to be too high.

Shunao

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Shunao 2018-03-18T13:36:10+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
Shunao wrote:
[Hard]
00:43:701 (1,2,3) - will be better to swap these hitobjects since the vocal sound at 00:43:701 -, 00:43:923 - and 00:44:146 -, while there is no vocal sound at 00:44:368 - at all. i don't want to spam circles tbh and you can know that i don't wanted to map vocals atm i prefered mapped the rhythm
i'm okay with your reason, but still.. making the sound at 00:44:368 - clickable doesn't seem to make sense at all. at least you could make 00:44:146 (2,3) - a 1/2 slider instead is ok. ok fixed!

00:01:035 - is it intentional to make 70% volume here? seems to be too high. not at all, done!

- Frontier -

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- Frontier - 2018-03-18T13:38:24+00:00

late birthday present here

Shunao

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Shunao 2018-03-18T13:56:46+00:00

owo

edit: waiting ely reply to frontier

Erisan

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Erisan 2018-03-24T04:06:54+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:

[eLy's Insane]

00:00:812 (1,2) - there is no other difficulty that map this part but you. So I think you could remove these for consistency among mapset.
00:07:701 (6,7,1) - The visual spacing here is as the same as the hitobjects with 1/2-beat gap between each hitobjects (like 00:07:479 (5,6) -). So try to make these hitobjects become nearer to each other or make the hitobjects 00:07:479 (5,6) - go further to each other, to make a distinct visual spacing to avoid having an unfair reading problem to players. As same as 00:13:923 (2,3,4,5) -.
00:21:923 (6,7,1) - the spacing between each hitobjects here is kinda ambiguous here. since the previous stacked hitcircles like 00:20:034 (4,5) - are stacked with 1/4-beat long gap between hitobjects, players' intuition will understand that these hitobjects 00:22:146 (7,1) - are also have 1/4-beat gap long between each hitobject too, making players gathering 100s or even a miss here. So I'd recommend you to add a reverse at 00:21:923 (6) - to avoid having an unfair reading challenge for players.
00:54:368 (2,3) - the spacing between these hitobjects is pretty huge compared to the rest of the kiai section. So it might be better to make the spacing here lower, by moving the slider 00:54:368 (2) - nearer to the slider's head of 00:54:812 (3) -.
01:36:368 (4) - might be better to make this slider become 3/2-beat long slider there is a dominant sound at 01:36:812 -. using the 3/2 slider will represent the vocal sound at here better than slider tick.

ALL FIXED thank you modding

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