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Arrival

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Arrival 2017-07-04T21:35:43+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 19 novembre 2017 at 20:58:28

Artist: USAO
Title: BroGamer
Source: beatmania IIDX 24 SINOBUZ
Tags: headshot gg noob dubstep camping fire in the hole hardstyle bemani konami super ultimate hyper core trap realazy linada alheak worminators avena priti kyuukai unmei muma gezo
BPM: 207
Filesize: 10557kb
Play Time: 02:07
Difficulties Available:

Alheak's Extreme (6,26 stars, 600 notes)
Avena's Ultra (6,37 stars, 674 notes)
Inner Oni (6,33 stars, 1002 notes)
Kyuukai's Normal (1,86 stars, 212 notes)
Muzukashii (3,67 stars, 556 notes)
Oni (4,54 stars, 796 notes)
Realinada's Black Another (5,57 stars, 647 notes)
Unmei's Futsuu (3,01 stars, 409 notes)
Wormi's Another (4,29 stars, 421 notes)
Wormi's Hyper (3,12 stars, 327 notes)

Download: USAO - BroGamer
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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BroGamer

by USAO

from beatmania IIDX 24 SINOBUZ

illustration by emu ★ at https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=64799742 / https://twitter.com/confisery

Unmei Muma's Bonus Taiko Diff

Last edited by Arrival 2017-11-19T19:59:22+00:00, edited 64 times in total.

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-07-05T19:58:24+00:00

quick irc on inner oni, discussed some things concerning density and playability

log

2017-07-05 21:44 Chromoxx: ok
2017-07-05 21:46 Chromoxx: 00:05:377 - the escalation here is a bit sudden
2017-07-05 21:46 Chromoxx: going from barely any notes to a bunch of 1/2 and 1/4 even tho the music doesn't get that much more intense
2017-07-05 21:47 Chromoxx: 00:05:522 - deleting this note would make it a bit less sudden i guess
2017-07-05 21:47 Arrival: ye i wanted to change this part anyway
2017-07-05 21:48 Chromoxx: 00:43:638 - the kdddk flows kinda weird coming out of the ddk from before
2017-07-05 21:49 Arrival: hm right
2017-07-05 21:51 Chromoxx: 01:28:566 - isn't this the same as 00:09:435 -
2017-07-05 21:51 Chromoxx: or well, it's kinda more intense so i feel like you could have some sort of stream there too
2017-07-05 21:52 Arrival: well the song doesnt really ask for a stream there though
2017-07-05 21:52 Chromoxx: well the sounds are more intense than at 00:09:435 -
2017-07-05 21:53 Chromoxx: so a stream from 01:28:276 - would fit pretty well imo
2017-07-05 21:55 Arrival: i mean there is clearly a separation between the most intense ones
2017-07-05 21:55 Arrival: but i guess it makes sense
2017-07-05 21:56 Chromoxx: that's about all tbh, nice map!

2017-07-05 21:56 Arrival: alright thanks :p
2017-07-05 21:56 Chromoxx: how is this 5.74* tho :thinking:

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2017-07-23T12:03:53+00:00

https://www.dropbox.com/s/me00njqst92ub ... D.osu?dl=0 :eyes:

iloveyou4ever

825 posts

Joined September 2014

iloveyou4ever 2017-08-01T11:26:14+00:00

emem ecin MPB=htgnel

NyarkoO

282 posts

Joined June 2015

NyarkoO 2017-08-02T17:33:12+00:00

These custom hitsounds are...they're something else alright.

i wanna die

Arrival

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Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-08-02T18:03:25+00:00

XD

Yuzeyun

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Yuzeyun 2017-08-05T21:04:50+00:00

ＬＥＧＡＬＩＺＥ　ＣＲＹＳＴＡＬ　ＦＵＣＫＩＮ　ＷＥＥＤ

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wej87w03t4sj ... D.osu?dl=0

OnosakiHito

osu!taiko Paragon

6,842 posts

Joined March 2010

OnosakiHito 2017-08-06T12:34:01+00:00

I was asked for some opinion. Now I am modding it. Hi.

[General]

The applause must be probably changed since its more of a screamer which is forbidden in osu! due to possible heart attacks or breaking peoples ears as it comes really sudden. Current solution we agree to is to lower the tone down but this might need some more discussion before it can be really approved.
There are general problems with the custom sounds too, which I will mention down below.

[

Inner Oni]

00:16:262 ~ 00:20:900 - As mentioned in #taiko, I think the change from previous part from lineal don beats to a sudden odd kat heavy doublet is drastic and could be possibly made smoother since this part doesn't follow the D'n'B style baseline anymore. 00:20:900 - Starting from here it follows that baseline in a smoother way.
00:34:813 (281) - After trying out the map a few times I noticed that such note's sound are actually not existent anymore due to the custom hitsound. Without the taiko skin you hear little of the usual osu! hitsounds while on custom skins (like the taiko one) the note is just not existent which equals to 0% volume. This is a problem you can try to fix by adding at least one of your hitsounds to that custom sound of yours. Maybe there are more solutions to this, but tbh I'm not very proficient in hitsounding so I would need to dig out solutions by myself.
00:58:001 - Mention in #taiko as well, I have the same concerns about this like before. I can understand the constellation but drawing a conclusion what you actually play is very hard as you are trying to follow several sounds at once. That's how I think about this.
01:16:552 (37) - Oh, no finisher? You used for the same sound some afterwards.
01:23:508 (67) - ^ (I think it was intentional tho since it is on a similar stanza setting)
01:28:146 - The stream is alright, but would still suggest something else which follows the sounds more accurately. Either suggestion one or two(which is a modification of one) would be possible. However, it would be a bit harder to play compared to the current one so I'm indifferent about this.
01:30:465 (120) - Beside the problem that notes become inaudible / quiet, this custom hitsound is really loud and actually overwaves the sound at this part. Should tune it down.
02:01:769 - Same as before.

[

Oni]

00:46:407 - You tried to make this part simple with the 4/4 and 3/4 but I think this can be improved since the song goes from 4/4 to 3/4 to 4/4 while you do it the other way around, 4/4 to 3/4. I think the picture can explain my thoughts better since I couldn't do it better.
00:56:842 - I mentioned this in Inner. In Oni it works better since there are not so many notes at all and you know what you have to follow. Might wanna consider this again.

[

Gezo's Futsuu]

00:43:798 (150) - I think it wouldn't be bad to delete this note. I'm all for longer 1/2 constellations, but after having some five and three long notes 1/2, I do say it would be time for a little break even tho that kat fits with the vocal.
00:58:001 ~ 01:02:639 - Depending on how Muzukashii is gonna be mapped, this could be a problematic part spread wise since Oni and Inner Oni differ difficulty wise to the D D D D K patterns a lot. Keep that in mind for later consideration.
01:38:871 (306,307) - Delete. Same case. It's the kiai, but the patterns do become quite long. For the deleted notes you could add a 1/2 starting from 01:39:161 - .
02:02:929 - Starting from here every fifth note can become a kat for variation purpose. Shouldn't be too hard I think?

Very solid Futsuu.

In general I find the beatmaps solid. As I mentioned in #taiko, I'm pretty much indifferent about those custom hitsounds however, the quiet don sounds when using these custom sounds is indeed problem since they do become too quiet / inaudible as well as the other sounds that become too loud. Once that is fixed, I think the basic problems are eliminated. Rest is up to the community how they think about it I would say.

If you are not sure about some of my points, just ask me. It's been a while I modded.
Wish you good luck!

I wish I could gd lol

Arrival

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Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-08-06T13:35:57+00:00

OnosakiHito wrote:
I was asked for some opinion. Now I am modding it. Hi.

[General]

The applause must be probably changed since its more of a screamer which is forbidden in osu! due to possible heart attacks or breaking peoples ears as it comes really sudden. Current solution we agree to is to lower the tone down but this might need some more discussion before it can be really approved.

Alright after some discussion with Alheak we'll either reduce the volume or apply a fade in in order to make the applause come progressively and not scare cardiac or ear sensible players.
There are general problems with the custom sounds too, which I will mention down below.
[ Inner Oni]

00:16:262 ~ 00:20:900 - As mentioned in #taiko, I think the change from previous part from lineal don beats to a sudden odd kat heavy doublet is drastic and could be possibly made smoother since this part doesn't follow the D'n'B style baseline anymore. 00:20:900 - Starting from here it follows that baseline in a smoother way.

Changes were made towards a more don heavy patterning.
00:34:813 (281) - After trying out the map a few times I noticed that such note's sound are actually not existent anymore due to the custom hitsound. Without the taiko skin you hear little of the usual osu! hitsounds while on custom skins (like the taiko one) the note is just not existent which equals to 0% volume. This is a problem you can try to fix by adding at least one of your hitsounds to that custom sound of yours. Maybe there are more solutions to this, but tbh I'm not very proficient in hitsounding so I would need to dig out solutions by myself.

Indeed. I'll add my own hitsounds so there will be a stack and sound less odd.

00:58:001 - Mention in #taiko as well, I have the same concerns about this like before. I can understand the constellation but drawing a conclusion what you actually play is very hard as you are trying to follow several sounds at once. That's how I think about this.

Considering I love the way this part plays i'll wait and see if other people have concerns about this as I understand this is mapped quite oddly.
01:16:552 (37) - Oh, no finisher? You used for the same sound some afterwards.
01:23:508 (67) - ^ (I think it was intentional tho since it is on a similar stanza setting)

It is, adding finishers there too would seem quite overwhelming in my opinion.
01:28:146 - The stream is alright, but would still suggest something else which follows the sounds more accurately. Either suggestion one or two(which is a modification of one) would be possible. However, it would be a bit harder to play compared to the current one so I'm indifferent about this.

I really like your second one but also the one I have now so I'll wait and see if other modders mention it. If it is the case then i'll gladly change it
01:30:465 (120) - Beside the problem that notes become inaudible / quiet, this custom hitsound is really loud and actually overwaves the sound at this part. Should tune it down.

Done
02:01:769 - Same as before.

And done
[ Oni]

00:46:407 - You tried to make this part simple with the 4/4 and 3/4 but I think this can be improved since the song goes from 4/4 to 3/4 to 4/4 while you do it the other way around, 4/4 to 3/4. I think the picture can explain my thoughts better since I couldn't do it better.

Changed but the last note of the pattern is fitting to a 1/3 snapping
00:56:842 - I mentioned this in Inner. In Oni it works better since there are not so many notes at all and you know what you have to follow. Might wanna consider this again.

Moved two notes
[ Gezo's Futsuu]

00:43:798 (150) - I think it wouldn't be bad to delete this note. I'm all for longer 1/2 constellations, but after having some five and three long notes 1/2, I do say it would be time for a little break even tho that kat fits with the vocal.
00:58:001 ~ 01:02:639 - Depending on how Muzukashii is gonna be mapped, this could be a problematic part spread wise since Oni and Inner Oni differ difficulty wise to the D D D D K patterns a lot. Keep that in mind for later consideration.
01:38:871 (306,307) - Delete. Same case. It's the kiai, but the patterns do become quite long. For the deleted notes you could add a 1/2 starting from 01:39:161 - .
02:02:929 - Starting from here every fifth note can become a kat for variation purpose. Shouldn't be too hard I think?

Very solid Futsuu.
In general I find the beatmaps solid. As I mentioned in #taiko, I'm pretty much indifferent about those custom hitsounds however, the quiet don sounds when using these custom sounds is indeed problem since they do become too quiet / inaudible as well as the other sounds that become too loud. Once that is fixed, I think the basic problems are eliminated. Rest is up to the community how they think about it I would say.

If you are not sure about some of my points, just ask me. It's been a while I modded.
Wish you good luck!

I wish I could gd lol

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 2017-08-06T15:31:20+00:00

I have some huge concerns about this map as a whole.

First of all, is this an attempt to do an MLG kind of map? If yes, let me tell you it's a terrible attempt to do so.

In itself, I'm all for having this kind of maps with an atypical and unconventional hitsounding (this one is great). However here, it is just ruining the song. What I am trying to say is that those custom hitsounds are not improving the song, they are just convering it (except maybe for the vuvuzela hitsounds that almost has the same BPM, others are not) which, instead of improving the gameplay experience, it sabotages it as they are more oppressing/overwhelming than anything. Hitsounds that are not immediate/brief should not cover the song but blend in it in a harmonious manner.

Something else bothers me, it's that you only have 3 non-standard hitsounds:

Baby a triple
Illuminati
Those vuvuzela/siren/whatever it is sounds

Having this kind of hitsounds is fun because they provide a variety of memes in the span of a song creating a specific atmosphere and an adrenaline rush. You failed to do this as you only have 3 different sounds that you are abusing which ends up being displeasing to the ear and hindering the gameplay experience. You even have a "Baby a triple" that is overlapped by two illumnati sounds in Alheak's guest difficulty.

In short, what you should do to improve the hitsounding and make a proper "MLG" map is:

Adjust the volume of those hitsounds so that they do not cover the song, Try to make those memes blend in it.
Make sure your hitsounds are not too long. That "Baby a triple" hitsound is 4 and a half seconds long, it almost the duration of 16 beats at 207 BPM...
Hitsounds should reflect the song and not the visuals of the map. That is to say that using the illuminati hitsound when you are making a triangle pattern is inappropriate and it's forcing something on the song.
If you are using instrument based hitsounds that are repeated and have their own rhythm (just like the vuvuzela hitsound), make sure they fit the tempo of the song. You told me the vuvuzela hitsound was edited to fit the song but it is still to fast in my ear.
Add more diversity to your hitsounds to avoid abusing those you already have and make this map a real MLG eperience. You have plenty of resources online to satisfy your needs.

Considering how obnoxious your reaction was when I told you my opinion about the hitsounding in this map, I can imagine you won't be willing to fix the issues I pointed out. Anyway, if no improvment is done before it reaches the bubble status and if you are not able to convince me the way this map was hitsounded is appropriate, consider that I am going to veto the set.

I also have some concerns about Alheak's guest difficulty as well. First of all, a number of patterns are not sightreadable, which is fine, patterns are not supposed to be sightreadable at this level as long as the general structure of the map is consistent. Nevertheless, they still are some patterns that I consider unreadable, too confusing or that simply don't make much sense and that I believe should be changed.

[xXxAlh34KxXx's H34DSH0T]

00:09:595 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - Why is the spacing suddenly getting large like this in the middle of this stream? Is it emphasizing anything? I just cannot understand the logic behing it. If you wanted to increase the spacing to reflect the increasing intensity of the song, why did you shorten it just right after with 00:10:175 (1,1,1,1) - ?
00:16:552 (3,4) - The way this pattern flows is terrible. Why do you have a 1/4 slider that goes in one direction but just right after it you have to cross half the screen to catch another that goes in a right-angled direction from the previous slider? The movement that has to be done to achieve this pattern is unnatural and pretty difficult to realise.
00:16:697 (4) - This slider badly follows the music. In my opinion you should really accentuate the "wa-wa" sound that pops out quite clearly instead of just having a slider reverse and a slider end on it. As it is, this slider is a bit shaky.
00:20:465 (1,2,3,4,1) - Any justification for this spacing? Having two doubles doesn't seem to represent the song accurately. When listening to the song and if you want the sacing in the stream to represent how the drums work, I believe that the spacing used for 00:20:465 (1,2) - and 00:20:610 (3,4) - should not be the same. Basically, I don't undertand why you did the spacing this way.
00:22:929 (3,4) - Why are those two notes excluded for the stream? Is it to emphasize the vocals? Though the vocals do not exactly start on 00:23:074 - so emphasizing them this way is not such a good idea. I believe you should rather focus on the drums themselves here.
00:29:595 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe it's because I'm 60k and therefore I am inherantly incapable of judging such patterns, but did you really think having consecutive 1/4 sliders switching from 1.50x SV to 6.00x SV, to 3.00x and then to 200x in less than one second is a good idea? It even breaks the editor, lmao. Morever 00:29:595 (1,2) - are stacked making the movement even more jerky/erratic.
00:32:494 (1) - Why aren't you following the 1/4 here?
00:34:088 (3,1,2,1) - You are not properly following the beeping sounds here. 00:34:088 (3) - should definitely be a slider and 00:34:233 (1) - a circle. like this: http://up.kuraip.net/0806U7R59R2462.png. It looks and plays much better this way.
00:35:972 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This pattern is quite the mess. Just look at this, there are 3 layers of notes in one pattern (even 4 if you count 00:37:711 (1,2) - ). Having a cluster of objects is not really a good thing as in the end it hinders the general readability of the pattern and it is not confortable to play.
00:45:755 (4,5) - I have nothing against this except that it is covered by 00:45:103 (4) - making it harder for the player to understand that the slider is reversed.
00:46:842 (3,4,5) - This is actually 1/6.
00:47:132 (1,1) - I woud remove those notes as they are not snapped on anything actually intellegible. You should rather focus on strong beats here, otherwise the pattern feels awkward as it is hard to discern what it is following (which is even more confusing because the song is switching between 1/4 and 1/6 rather erratically here).
00:48:146 (1,2,1,2) - Same remark as before.
00:57:276 (3,4,5,6,1) - It's rather hard to follow the pattern when everything is put on the same line. It looks like vertical CtB. Also the way 00:57:421 (4,5) - are stacked does not make it any easier to read. Ultimately, it all makes the SV change on 00:57:711 (1) - harder to predict. But as I said, unsightreadable patterns are not much of an issue at this level, though I still think you could make it more readable without making it any easier.
01:02:276 - Why are you ignoring this beat?
01:06:697 (1,2,1,2) - Here you go again, but it's even worse since 01:06:842 (2) - is now overlapped by 01:06:697 (1) - .
01:10:755 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Why the new combo spam here? Is it to improve the readability of the pattern? If the answer is yes, then you should probably rethink it because if you have to spam NC to make your pattern readable, it probably means there is something wrong with it in the first place. Though I like the SV changes here, I am still annoyed by the huge distance between 01:11:045 (1,1) - that is I believe not justified.
01:20:610 (1,2,1,2) - Here again, same comment.
01:28:436 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, what justifies having such a spacing in this stream?
01:29:016 (1,2,3,4,1) - In order to give more impact to this stream, I think you should lower the spacing between 01:29:016 (1,2,3,4) - and keep a higher spacing for 01:29:233 (4,1) - to accentuate more on the final crash.
02:06:407 (1,1,2) - Not a good idea to have 02:06:987 (1,2) - under thant long hold slider as it makes it harder to anticipate.
02:07:276 (1,2,3,4) - Can you explain why you used such a spacing. I don't really understand what's the point of having a high spacing and right after that stacking the rest of the stream.

Alright, that's all from me for now, I'm not going to be pernickety and nitpick everything since it'd just be my personal taste (though I did it a bit). I'll be honest and tell you I'm not really fond of this difficulty and I understand some people might enjoy playing this. However you really should take what I pointed out into consideration.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad map in itself. The hitsounds really are the main problem here because instead of significantly improving the set and making it more enjoyable to play, it is ruining the experience as you are misusing them. I do like the concept and if happen to master it, the map could be great.

Good luck!

(@Alheak: je n'ai pas vraiment inclus de screenshots comme tu me l'as demandé car ma connexion est vraiment très lente en ce moment et que ça m'aurait considérablement ralenti, check ça quand tu pourras, je pense pas que ça presse).

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-08-07T13:10:45+00:00

Kurai wrote:
yeah hitsounding is gonna get reworked

[xXxAlh34KxXx's H34DSH0T]
00:09:595 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - Why is the spacing suddenly getting large like this in the middle of this stream? Is it emphasizing anything? I just cannot understand the logic behing it. If you wanted to increase the spacing to reflect the increasing intensity of the song, why did you shorten it just right after with 00:10:175 (1,1,1,1) - ? you're right, changed the pattern to something more fitting
00:16:552 (3,4) - The way this pattern flows is terrible. Why do you have a 1/4 slider that goes in one direction but just right after it you have to cross half the screen to catch another that goes in a right-angled direction from the previous slider? The movement that has to be done to achieve this pattern is unnatural and pretty difficult to realise. uhm what?
00:16:697 (4) - This slider badly follows the music. In my opinion you should really accentuate the "wa-wa" sound that pops out quite clearly instead of just having a slider reverse and a slider end on it. As it is, this slider is a bit shaky. i don't think i share your opinion on this
00:20:465 (1,2,3,4,1) - Any justification for this spacing? Having two doubles doesn't seem to represent the song accurately. When listening to the song and if you want the sacing in the stream to represent how the drums work, I believe that the spacing used for 00:20:465 (1,2) - and 00:20:610 (3,4) - should not be the same. Basically, I don't undertand why you did the spacing this way. two different drum rolls, that's a way to map them like any other
00:22:929 (3,4) - Why are those two notes excluded for the stream? Is it to emphasize the vocals? Though the vocals do not exactly start on 00:23:074 - so emphasizing them this way is not such a good idea. I believe you should rather focus on the drums themselves here. yes the vocals are imprecise, but thanks to inertia this is easy enough to clear, it just gives the stream some flavour
00:29:595 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe it's because I'm 60k and therefore I am inherantly incapable of judging such patterns, but did you really think having consecutive 1/4 sliders switching from 1.50x SV to 6.00x SV, to 3.00x and then to 200x in less than one second is a good idea? It even breaks the editor, lmao. Morever 00:29:595 (1,2) - are stacked making the movement even more jerky/erratic. this is obviously a pattern that needs to be played properly to be judged, i'll gather feedback from testplays for that
00:32:494 (1) - Why aren't you following the 1/4 here? fixed
00:34:088 (3,1,2,1) - You are not properly following the beeping sounds here. 00:34:088 (3) - should definitely be a slider and 00:34:233 (1) - a circle. like this: http://up.kuraip.net/0806U7R59R2462.png. It looks and plays much better this way. changed
00:35:972 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This pattern is quite the mess. Just look at this, there are 3 layers of notes in one pattern (even 4 if you count 00:37:711 (1,2) - ). Having a cluster of objects is not really a good thing as in the end it hinders the general readability of the pattern and it is not confortable to play. the objects are gone from the playfield before the 1/3 triangle appears, moreover, i raised the AR
00:45:755 (4,5) - I have nothing against this except that it is covered by 00:45:103 (4) - making it harder for the player to understand that the slider is reversed. the AR should help with that, and there was another pattern like this earlier, players should expect the same here
00:46:842 (3,4,5) - This is actually 1/6. fixed, my laptop has audio lag which makes it difficult to correctly guess snaps
00:47:132 (1,1) - I woud remove those notes as they are not snapped on anything actually intellegible. You should rather focus on strong beats here, otherwise the pattern feels awkward as it is hard to discern what it is following (which is even more confusing because the song is switching between 1/4 and 1/6 rather erratically here). changed
00:48:146 (1,2,1,2) - Same remark as before.
00:57:276 (3,4,5,6,1) - It's rather hard to follow the pattern when everything is put on the same line. It looks like vertical CtB. Also the way 00:57:421 (4,5) - are stacked does not make it any easier to read. Ultimately, it all makes the SV change on 00:57:711 (1) - harder to predict. But as I said, unsightreadable patterns are not much of an issue at this level, though I still think you could make it more readable without making it any easier. changed the stack and added a NC
01:02:276 - Why are you ignoring this beat? uh, is there anything actually intellegible here?
01:06:697 (1,2,1,2) - Here you go again, but it's even worse since 01:06:842 (2) - is now overlapped by 01:06:697 (1) - .
01:10:755 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Why the new combo spam here? Is it to improve the readability of the pattern? If the answer is yes, then you should probably rethink it because if you have to spam NC to make your pattern readable, it probably means there is something wrong with it in the first place. Though I like the SV changes here, I am still annoyed by the huge distance between 01:11:045 (1,1) - that is I believe not justified. i see nothing wrong with this pattern, nor with the NCing,, perhaps you should explain to me what's the problem here
reduced the distance otherwise
01:20:610 (1,2,1,2) - Here again, same comment.
01:28:436 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, what justifies having such a spacing in this stream? to emphasize the 1/2 beeps while still mapping the drums
01:29:016 (1,2,3,4,1) - In order to give more impact to this stream, I think you should lower the spacing between 01:29:016 (1,2,3,4) - and keep a higher spacing for 01:29:233 (4,1) - to accentuate more on the final crash. changed in another way for consistency with^ and i wanna try this see if it works
02:06:407 (1,1,2) - Not a good idea to have 02:06:987 (1,2) - under thant long hold slider as it makes it harder to anticipate. isn't it easier to anticipate since you have plenty of time to prepare for it?
02:07:276 (1,2,3,4) - Can you explain why you used such a spacing. I don't really understand what's the point of having a high spacing and right after that stacking the rest of the stream. to emphasize the nuances of the drums, anyway thanks to the repeat slider just before this is a very easy spacing to play
Alright, that's all from me for now, I'm not going to be pernickety and nitpick everything since it'd just be my personal taste (though I did it a bit). I'll be honest and tell you I'm not really fond of this difficulty and I understand some people might enjoy playing this. However you really should take what I pointed out into consideration.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad map in itself. The hitsounds really are the main problem here because instead of significantly improving the set and making it more enjoyable to play, it is ruining the experience as you are misusing them. I do like the concept and if happen to master it, the map could be great.

Good luck!

(@Alheak: je n'ai pas vraiment inclus de screenshots comme tu me l'as demandé car ma connexion est vraiment très lente en ce moment et que ça m'aurait considérablement ralenti, check ça quand tu pourras, je pense pas que ça presse). non c'était pour si tu allais en parler sur le discord puisque je n'avais pas accès à mon pc quand tu en avais parlé

thanks

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2017-08-10T01:32:15+00:00

OnosakiHito wrote:
[ Gezo's Futsuu]

00:58:001 ~ 01:02:639 - Depending on how Muzukashii is gonna be mapped, this could be a problematic part spread wise since Oni and Inner Oni differ difficulty wise to the D D D D K patterns a lot. Keep that in mind for later consideration. In the end, Arrival mapped following his own logic - added three dons to make d d d d k for the first three, kept d d d .... d for the last to keep the break.
01:38:871 (306,307) - Delete. Same case. It's the kiai, but the patterns do become quite long. For the deleted notes you could add a 1/2 starting from 01:39:161 - . Applied, but I don't think 1/2 really fits in there.
02:02:929 - Starting from here every fifth note can become a kat for variation purpose. Shouldn't be too hard I think? well there goes another not three (3) star futsuu lol.

Very solid Futsuu. you're saying that because i am not mapping weird shit ty

3.01☆ ＲＴ SI C TRIST

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-08-21T12:10:40+00:00

01:11:045 (1,1,2) - hello significant lack of illuminaty here on h3easdfxaffshot

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-08-21T14:10:02+00:00

mhh idk not really a triangle but maybe

Avena

2,158 posts

Joined December 2012

Avena 2017-08-25T21:49:09+00:00

Had a lil' chat with Cherry Blossom, fixed a few things
http://puu.sh/xjvYO.osu

Cherry Blossom

3,185 posts

Joined October 2011

Cherry Blossom 2017-08-25T21:49:36+00:00

Some IRC modding with ~~Priti~~ Avena

SPOILER

23:39 Avena: I alr managed to make a new ultra
23:39 Cherry Blossom: lol welcome back Ultra man
23:39 Avena: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/635636
23:40 Cherry Blossom: wow Usao
23:41 Cherry Blossom: wow it's really you 00:08:146 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
23:41 Avena: :3
23:42 Cherry Blossom: 00:17:566 (2) - make its end played, it sounds really weird when it's played passively

23:43 Cherry Blossom: 00:37:035 (2,1) - it may be a better idea to unstack them to make this 1/3 more distinguishable
23:43 Cherry Blossom: like you did for 00:46:117 (6,7,1) -
23:44 Cherry Blossom: avoid overlap here please :3 00:59:450 (3,4) -
23:44 Cherry Blossom: 01:23:218 (4) - ^
23:46 Avena: Made them more overlapped instead
23:46 Avena: Looks tight
23:46 Avena: Post it in forums
23:46 Avena: I applied everything
23:46 Avena: Probably more useful than any mod i'd get anyways
23:47 Cherry Blossom: lol you²
23:47 Avena: Did you like the ending stream?
23:47 Avena: 02:06:987 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -
23:47 Cherry Blossom: looks like a petal, looks nice !

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-08-25T22:19:50+00:00

https://pastebin.com/hJz2QxnV

Last edited by Alheak 2017-08-26T15:17:04+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-08-26T02:53:03+00:00

J'aime beaucoup la diff de Linada/Real

Akali

639 posts

Joined November 2012

Akali 2017-08-27T22:02:43+00:00

Can I not make a gd

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-08-27T22:11:57+00:00

fuck

Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-08-28T07:35:02+00:00

Akali wrote:
Can I not make a gd

no

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-08-30T19:48:31+00:00

https://pastebin.com/idGfMSbW

Shadowa Pinkman

952 posts

Joined March 2013

Shadowa Pinkman 2017-09-07T00:22:50+00:00

Can I make Kantan pls .w.

Hikomori

840 posts

Joined November 2015

Hikomori 2017-09-09T22:50:54+00:00

:joy: :joy: :joy: WHO DID THIS? :joy: :joy: :joy:
:joy: :joy: :joy: :0k_hand: :fire: :joy: :joy: :joy:

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-09-18T01:59:28+00:00

ctb?

Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-09-18T05:13:24+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
ctb?

if u manage to get mods i'm fine with that

Saturnalize

1,490 posts

Joined March 2011

Saturnalize 2017-09-20T17:49:50+00:00

This map's survival kit 101

Gonna point out issues later when I'm not lazy

Avena

2,158 posts

Joined December 2012

Avena 2017-09-20T18:24:54+00:00

Alheak's Extreme

Just saying, you should probably re-read Kurai's mod.. He has really good points and your responses are pretty much complete ignorance to the issues in the map.
Approach Rate is needlessly high, even 9.2 can do.
Hitsounding is.. ehhhhhh.. a bit too simple. You could do much better than just putting completely unrelated claps every other beat.
You are spamming NCs so hard for no reason, especially since you do it very inconsistently and without seeming logic. Please try to review that and make it more sensical.
00:22:929 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This completely ignores the way the song is, not to mention that these fanzhen doubles serve no purpose other than edgy visuals and actually hinder gameplay. Please consider shaping the pattern in a way that follows the music.
00:27:566 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above.
00:29:595 (1) - The song absolutely does not justify x6 Slider Velocity here. This is absolutely overdone for no reason. Not to mention that it's literally the same sound as the following beats, but the slider velocity is different.
00:37:132 (1,2) - I guess you intended for these to stack?
00:44:958 (3) - New combo for consistency and logic?
00:48:146 (1) - Yet again, same overdone slider velocity.
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I'm a duck if this doesn't cause insane slider breaks.
00:52:204 (1) - This is just 1 beat? Why map it as if there are 3 beats here? This serves no purpose lol.
01:02:639 - Add a break to prevent draining out, especially for HardRock plays.
01:06:697 (1) - zzz
01:10:755 (1) - Wrong Snap. Correct Snap is 1/4
01:11:661 (1,1) - This jump feels really eh to play, especially considering how the pattern pretty much implies a 1/2 gap. Consider making it either more obvious or 1/2.
01:14:958 (4,5,6,7) - These doubles don't emphasize anything, if you want to follow the melody then you should make each double start on a white tick instead of a red tick.
01:20:610 (1) - aaaa
01:23:508 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - There is literally no sense or pattern for these SV changes, they are pretty much random and serve no purpose.
01:28:436 (1,2,3,4,1) - This is a misuse of the double pattern. The sound you are mapping here is flat, meaning all beats are pretty much the same, while the patterning implies there is a big change every half beat. Thus, a correct pattern for this sound would be a consistent stream with no random spacing changes.
01:29:233 (4,1) - Spacing slightly increases here, which just looks sloppy and untidy.
01:47:421 (1,2,1,2) - This just doesn't follow the music, as simple as that, no excuses.
02:06:987 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Same problem as I mentioned before with the doubles. You are implying that there is a heavy change on the blue tick, while in reality the sounds are identical and don't call for any drastic change in patterning or spacing.
02:07:566 (1) - There is only ONE BEAT, why make a repeating slider where a circle would be enough.

If you are going to make a joke, at least make a good one.

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-09-20T19:02:41+00:00

@Alheak

ar9.8 is nothing but unnecessary pain, why don't you bring it down? no real reason to have a such high ar
overall diff is kinda messy and hs is honestly sad, tho looks fun, I'd gladly play it if it weren't ar9.8

Amaikai

70 posts

Joined September 2014

Amaikai 2017-09-20T20:17:39+00:00

Realinda black another

00:08:001 (6) - This note feels like oddball. It feels smoother more towards left like: https://puu.sh/xEEqt/21fb4c2d63.png
00:13:943 (1,2,3,4) - Not fan of the flow here. Maybe something like: https://puu.sh/xEF0x/95c04e5902.png
00:32:929 (5) - This note blends in with earlier patterns, could make it more distinct
01:01:914 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream looks unclean, not fan of 3 "stack" there. Majority of the streams before it used consistent spacing or at least constantly spread shape. Don't see why this stream should be different thematically.
01:13:798 (1,2,3,1) - This flows awkwardly. Maybe move 01:13:943 (2) - more to left to have sharp angles.
01:15:103 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This plays awkward. I feel like patterns should be matched more in either flow direction or design. For example: https://puu.sh/xEFQ0/56a968e46e.png

Alheak's extreme

I have seen wooden huts in africa with more solid structure

Priti's

Got nothing.

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-09-21T15:11:27+00:00

Avena wrote:
Alheak's Extreme
Just saying, you should probably re-read Kurai's mod.. He has really good points and your responses are pretty much complete ignorance to the issues in the map. most of his points have been re-considered and applied, but i just went over it again to be sure
Approach Rate is needlessly high, even 9.2 can do. 9.5 for now
Hitsounding is.. ehhhhhh.. a bit too simple. You could do much better than just putting completely unrelated claps every other beat. added whistles, should make the hitsounding a bit more diverse and alive
You are spamming NCs so hard for no reason, especially since you do it very inconsistently and without seeming logic. Please try to review that and make it more sensical. changed
00:22:929 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This completely ignores the way the song is, not to mention that these fanzhen doubles serve no purpose other than edgy visuals and actually hinder gameplay. Please consider shaping the pattern in a way that follows the music. changed
00:27:566 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above.
00:29:595 (1) - The song absolutely does not justify x6 Slider Velocity here. This is absolutely overdone for no reason. Not to mention that it's literally the same sound as the following beats, but the slider velocity is different. changed
00:37:132 (1,2) - I guess you intended for these to stack? things just randomly unstack when you quit the editor, fixed but it might just do it again
00:44:958 (3) - New combo for consistency and logic? NCs have been changed in general
00:48:146 (1) - Yet again, same overdone slider velocity.
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I'm a duck if this doesn't cause insane slider breaks. quack, it plays fine but probably not appropriate, changed
00:52:204 (1) - This is just 1 beat? Why map it as if there are 3 beats here? This serves no purpose lol. it kinda has 2 beats but what i'm principally following is the back-and-forth sound/effect here, which is why there's a repeat slider here
01:02:639 - Add a break to prevent draining out, especially for HardRock plays. ok
01:06:697 (1) - zzz
01:10:755 (1) - Wrong Snap. Correct Snap is 1/4 not sure about that, really sounds 1/3 to me here, there are 3 wubs equally timed
01:11:661 (1,1) - This jump feels really eh to play, especially considering how the pattern pretty much implies a 1/2 gap. Consider making it either more obvious or 1/2. changed
01:14:958 (4,5,6,7) - These doubles don't emphasize anything, if you want to follow the melody then you should make each double start on a white tick instead of a red tick. i think their flow fit the music well here, and i don't see a reason to start them on white ticks since they're grouped by sameness
01:20:610 (1) - aaaa
01:23:508 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - There is literally no sense or pattern for these SV changes, they are pretty much random and serve no purpose. changed in a way that probably makes more sense
01:28:436 (1,2,3,4,1) - This is a misuse of the double pattern. The sound you are mapping here is flat, meaning all beats are pretty much the same, while the patterning implies there is a big change every half beat. Thus, a correct pattern for this sound would be a consistent stream with no random spacing changes. my intent here was to map the 1/2 beeps while still following principally the drums but it may be too autistic and awkward to play i guess, changed
01:29:233 (4,1) - Spacing slightly increases here, which just looks sloppy and untidy. changed
01:47:421 (1,2,1,2) - This just doesn't follow the music, as simple as that, no excuses. it does, it's an intuitive way to play the 3/4 kicks without spamming sliders
02:06:987 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Same problem as I mentioned before with the doubles. You are implying that there is a heavy change on the blue tick, while in reality the sounds are identical and don't call for any drastic change in patterning or spacing. changed
02:07:566 (1) - There is only ONE BEAT, why make a repeating slider where a circle would be enough.
If you are going to make a joke, at least make a good one.

thanks

Amaikai wrote:
I have seen wooden huts in africa with more solid structure

who the fuck are you?

update

Avena

2,158 posts

Joined December 2012

Avena 2017-09-21T15:53:27+00:00

@Alheak-
01:10:755 (1) - It's a 1/4 triplet, 100%
01:14:958 (4,5,6,7) - The impact is on the white ticks, so each double should start on a white tick to emphasize that. The red tick is only a secondary sound to the one on the white tick.
01:47:421 (1,2,1,2) - You are skipping a much more important sound on the white tick, which makes this pattern completely unintuitive comapred to the song. The main kick here is on the white tick, so if you're following kicks, follow it too.

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-09-21T16:24:05+00:00

changed the first two issues but the main kick on 01:47:421 (1,2,1,2) - is clearly on the blue tick, and even if there's a snare on the white tick just after i don't believe it has such an important rhythmical impact on the song since the whole part here is a 3/4 shitfest, there's even the same snare ealier on 01:46:987 - which has nothing mapped on it, it's clearly more intuitive how it is mapped right now

Linada

995 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-09-21T21:13:02+00:00

Amaikai wrote:
Realinda black another
00:08:001 (6) - This note feels like oddball. It feels smoother more towards left like: https://puu.sh/xEEqt/21fb4c2d63.png it would ruin the structure there
00:13:943 (1,2,3,4) - Not fan of the flow here. Maybe something like: https://puu.sh/xEF0x/95c04e5902.png making an antiflow there would make no sense
00:32:929 (5) - This note blends in with earlier patterns, could make it more distinct its made on purpose
01:01:914 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream looks unclean, not fan of 3 "stack" there. Majority of the streams before it used consistent spacing or at least constantly spread shape. Don't see why this stream should be different thematically. because it's not the same sounds as before ? moved it slightly
01:13:798 (1,2,3,1) - This flows awkwardly. Maybe move 01:13:943 (2) - more to left to have sharp angles. it would ruin the emphasis to 3,
and the flow here is ok
01:15:103 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This plays awkward. I feel like patterns should be matched more in either flow direction or design. For example: https://puu.sh/xEFQ0/56a968e46e.png the flow is ok here, the only weird thing is the kickslider which i removed

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Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-09-22T11:08:53+00:00

all updated

Amaikai

70 posts

Joined September 2014

Amaikai 2017-09-22T16:38:27+00:00

Alheak wrote:

I have seen wooden huts in africa with more solid structure
who the fuck are you?

SPOILER

Satisfied man https://puu.sh/xGdVK/d910c902b8.png
Comment was still true, based on testplay it played and looked messy and chaotic which is something I dont personally like.

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-09-22T16:51:03+00:00

wonder who is actually homosexually pleasing who for you to say this sort of thing on such a retarded dare

Amaikai

70 posts

Joined September 2014

Amaikai 2017-09-22T18:20:38+00:00

Alheak wrote:
wonder who is actually homosexually pleasing who for you to say this sort of thing on such a retarded dare

chill. no need to get so jumpy over one negative comment. i didnt like the map, expressed my thoughts on map, no big deal. you cant please everyone.

Bn/whoever: Please deny kudos since my post wasn't helpful towards improving map.

Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Arrival 2017-09-22T20:59:17+00:00

Amaikai wrote:
Alheak wrote:
wonder who is actually homosexually pleasing who for you to say this sort of thing on such a retarded dare
chill. no need to get so jumpy over one negative comment. i didnt like the map, expressed my thoughts on map, no big deal. you cant please everyone.

Bn/whoever: Please deny kudos since my post wasn't helpful towards improving map.

alright lol

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-09-23T17:52:03+00:00

update

https://pastebin.com/3zXJMPr7

timemon

Beatmap Nominator

1,307 posts

Joined November 2012

timemon 2017-10-03T17:34:41+00:00

Im here for the 2 kudosu
[General]
Unused hitsounds:
drum-hitfinish22.mp3
normal-hitfinish33.mp3
taiko-normal-hitfinish69.wav
taiko-normal-hitnormal22.wav

Alheak's Extreme and Avena's Ultra end a bit later than other difficulties in the set.

[Kyuukai's Normal]
00:53:363 - I think using 3/4 slider with a reverse fits here better imo, just change this section same for 01:58:291 -

01:28:146 (7) - NC
01:46:407 (5) - NC for spinner
02:06:407 (4) - yeee

[Wormi's Hyper]
00:02:929 (1,1) - I think these two sliders have way too many reverse and it's too fast for players to react, you can try to find other ways to do it or lower the SV a bit so you dont have to constantly follow the sliders which works too imo

02:02:639 (4) - NC because you have done this before

[Wormi's Another]
00:53:363 - I really like this

01:32:784 (1,2,3,4) - please check your hitsounding, I think copy hs doesn't work well here because you skip a snare you should add some custom hitsound for the diff a bit because it sounds really silent

02:02:929 - you should continue mapping D: it's building up

[Realinada's Black Another]
01:13:218 - I think this should be clickable because following this part, everything else is clickable
same for the similar part 01:17:711 (3) - and so on

01:56:697 (2) - stack

[Alheak's Extreme]
02:07:566 - why not just a circle? I think it would be more crisp to end with a circle

^Holy this map is amazing, the hitsound is awesome and the map is really well made!

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I have a little bit of a concern between Another and Black Another gap in difficulty but otherwise the mapset looks cool to me.

Linada

995 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-10-03T17:46:08+00:00

timemon wrote:
[Realinada's Black Another]
01:13:218 - I think this should be clickable because following this part, everything else is clickable
same for the similar part 01:17:711 (3) - and so on it's fine as it

01:56:697 (2) - stack sure sir.

diff

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StackLeniency: 0.7
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ArtistUnicode:USAO
Creator:Arrival
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Alheak

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Alheak 2017-10-03T18:13:24+00:00

timemon wrote:
[Alheak's Extreme]
02:07:566 - why not just a circle? I think it would be more crisp to end with a circle i want to map the back&forth wubbish sound here, so ending with a circle wouldn't fit its "bouncing" feel

^Holy this map is amazing, the hitsound is awesome and the map is really well made!

Thank you for the mod!

newton-

Beatmap Nominator

670 posts

Joined February 2015

newton- 2017-10-26T09:14:42+00:00

nm as per alheak's request

2 kudosu incoming

[alheak's extreme]

this is clean o wo
00:02:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - would be cool if you either gradually spaced these out or increased sv to reflect the hype being built in the song
00:10:175 (1,2,3,4) - space these out more so they look noticeably more intense than the past 4 notes?
00:15:682 (3,4) - the "gg" here is a different sound compared to 00:15:103 (1,2) - yet theyre mapped similarly, consider red-anchoring these to make them stand out from (1,2) more
00:22:349 (2,3) // 00:26:987 (2,3) - this looks sort of like 1/4 instead of 1/2, might cause misreads. maybe space these out
00:24:571 (2,3) - this might not be seen as 2 separate notes, i'd prefer a kickslider jump so this doesn't happen and so that the "ah" sound on the kickslider is more emphasized
00:36:842 (1) - maybe stack these where you stacked the sliderends of (1,2) together for spacing emphasis
00:52:204 (1) - would refer this ctrlged so flow isnt as awkward
02:07:566 (1) - unneeded reverse imo, there isnt really any sound on the sliderend

good luck!

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-10-26T16:23:10+00:00

newton- wrote:
nm as per alheak's request

2 kudosu incoming

[alheak's extreme]
this is clean o wo
00:02:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - would be cool if you either gradually spaced these out or increased sv to reflect the hype being built in the song i think the increasing angle is enough and gives off a nice fitting effect for this part
00:10:175 (1,2,3,4) - space these out more so they look noticeably more intense than the past 4 notes? the sliders by themselves should make this part look more intense, and more spacing here wouldn't be very appropriate given the difficulty of this part already
00:15:682 (3,4) - the "gg" here is a different sound compared to 00:15:103 (1,2) - yet theyre mapped similarly, consider red-anchoring these to make them stand out from (1,2) more my intent wasn't to map the "gg", simply the beats
00:22:349 (2,3) // 00:26:987 (2,3) - this looks sort of like 1/4 instead of 1/2, might cause misreads. maybe space these out misreads im not sure, i wanted to make the player stop to accentuate the sample in the song but it doesn't work very well, changed
00:24:571 (2,3) - this might not be seen as 2 separate notes, i'd prefer a kickslider jump so this doesn't happen and so that the "ah" sound on the kickslider is more emphasized this part is hard enough to play for what it is so a kickslider jump is out of the question, i actually got rid of the 1/6 slider because it was too awkward to play
00:36:842 (1) - maybe stack these where you stacked the sliderends of (1,2) together for spacing emphasis im not sure i understand your point here
00:52:204 (1) - would refer this ctrlged so flow isnt as awkward will see with more playtests but this plays just fine, even for me
02:07:566 (1) - unneeded reverse imo, there isnt really any sound on the sliderend its not so much for the sliderend (which is muted anyway) but for the wub sound expanding from the previous beat
good luck!

thank you for the mod!

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Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2017-11-01T09:01:27+00:00

whatsup bro gamers

[realinada]

00:12:784 (1,4) - just copy pasting these seems kinda lame, overlap seems kinda pointless too
00:38:291 (1) - normal sampleset or smth
00:48:726 (1) - same

cool diff

[alheak]

00:01:190 (1) - lower volume? finish is so loud here
00:09:305 (1) - should probably hitsound this somehow lol, seems like it lacks something
00:52:204 (5) - just a circle would emphasize this a lot nicer
01:16:552 (1) - finish?

interesting hitsounds lol

[avena]

00:08:580 (4,1) - don't really like how far these are spaced, seems a bit out of place
00:15:103 (1,2,3,4) - same here, don't understand why you increase spacing here so much
00:38:291 - you could put a circle here and have spinner start on blue tick? kinda weird not to have this sound clickable
00:46:697 - pretty sure u could map this too, this section seems a bit empty for some reason
00:46:987 (3) - could make a repeat to catch the sound on 00:47:083 - but yea idk
00:47:276 - same
00:57:276 (3,4) - could be a bit closer to eachother like 02:02:204 (3,4) - , maybe try https://sy.phic.al/i/qgysooj.png
01:10:030 (3,4) - a bit extreme don't u think
01:17:132 (3) - whistle?
01:26:987 (1) - drum finish would work nicely here i think

kiai is cool but idk about the rest

gl~

Musty

2,252 posts

Joined February 2010

Musty 2017-11-01T11:28:19+00:00

[realinada]

la map manque de patterns comme ça : https://puu.sh/yceoV/a7b5d90590.png

voila c tout ^^

[alheak]

00:20:465 (4,5,6,7) - y a une raison spécifique au pk les 2 doublets sont pas identiques ? :thinking:
00:29:305 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ça aurait été trop bien un petit "feedback" sonore pcke ça aide de ouf niveau gameplay sans mentir
01:06:407 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^^^^^^^^
01:20:610 (1,2,1,2) - ^^^^^^^

sinn c FUN

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-11-01T14:10:08+00:00

Syph wrote:
whatsup bro gamers

[alheak]

00:01:190 (1) - lower volume? finish is so loud here yes
00:09:305 (1) - should probably hitsound this somehow lol, seems like it lacks something added finish
00:52:204 (5) - just a circle would emphasize this a lot nicer not so sure about that, i prefer how it is now
01:16:552 (1) - finish? yes

interesting hitsounds lol

gl~

thank you!

Musty wrote:
[alheak]

00:20:465 (4,5,6,7) - y a une raison spécifique au pk les 2 doublets sont pas identiques ? :thinking: pck les beats de drums ne sont pas exactement les mêmes
00:29:305 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ça aurait été trop bien un petit "feedback" sonore pcke ça aide de ouf niveau gameplay sans mentir j'ai add qq hitsounds mais je sais pas si c'est exactement sque tu voulais
01:06:407 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^^^^^^^^
01:20:610 (1,2,1,2) - ^^^^^^^

sinn c FUN

et merci à toi aussi

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Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-11-03T15:45:59+00:00

I agree that song is about memes and trolls, but I think that some fail hitsounds/win hitsounding is pretty annoying, and it can be misleading for the players (at least if was annoying to me).

I don't know if those hitsounds will stay like this, but it would be a way better if you could change the annoying hitsounds, especially the ones where it got a background song in it (like the "X-Files" one or "What you said"), since it encroaches a bit on the song...

Beside that, the set itself is very cool

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-11-05T03:25:51+00:00

Avena's Ultra

00:13:074 (2) - The curve seemed kinda odd. Maybe just use a linear for better aesthetic consistency.
00:28:581 (3,4) - This just feels really unnecessary and ruins the aesthetic xP
00:46:117 (6) - NC? Since its a 1/3 rhythm.
00:51:045 (5) - NC'ing would be nice here. separate the sliders from the streams
00:57:276 (3,4) - Really hard to read this spacing. use something closer at least here to introduce the rhythm before making it harder.
01:12:204 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Arrangement here looks unrefined compared to other parts. I don't see anything visually tying them together unlike other places
01:19:740 (4) - Linear as well? For consistency with 1 and 3
02:06:987 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Cooool

Alheak's Extreme

00:17:132 (5,6,1,2) - Not a fan of this movement onto slider 2. I thin you need some left-ward movement to help ease the sharp counter-clockwise flow you set up. It's too sharp atm. Try something like this: It allows players more area to catch the sharp movement from 5>6>1 and more slider leniency to prevent drifting.

~

00:20:465 (4,5,6,7,8) - Doesn't relaly look that nice imo cuz of the difference in spacing.
00:45:465 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This movement doesn't relaly set up slider 7 really well imo... like visually it just looks kinda off. I recomment maybe like either a curve or S type aesthetic instead?
00:58:218 (2,3) - Stacks
01:01:479 (1,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
01:34:523 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - huh this is pretty cool though. I guess the thing i mentioned earlier, another way to fix could be to integrate the slider better into some visual pattern.

Great visuals and design. Tbh the only reason I don't have you as a favorite mapper of mine yet is cuz I suck at playing stuff like this lol. Keep it up, you have my support.

Realinada's Black Another

00:07:711 (4,6) - Kinda odd placement. Maybe just stack? Cuz theyre the only overlaps like this.
01:02:349 (1) - Ctrl+G flows so well imo. And the jump onto 1 is a realy nice touch
01:06:697 (1,2) - I think flipping the sliders upside down (so they bend downward instead of upward) will play better since it gives players more area to work with in terms of slider leniency.the movement is going downward from the previous pattern so having that extra area to work with really helps with cursor control.

Wormi's Another

00:23:074 (1,4) - Could be cleaner without that overlap.

Wormi's Hyper

01:15:103 (4) - SHould be a slider imo. the red tick has a note that you shouldn't skip imo.

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