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fhana - little secret magic [Osu|Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 at 21:47:44

Artist: fhana
Title: little secret magic
Tags: sakurauchi riko phyloukz kawashiro -unlock c00l cool endaris hybrid set
BPM: 196
Filesize: 5288kb
Play Time: 01:48
Difficulties Available:
  1. Cool's Normal (2,29 stars, 222 notes)
  2. Easy (1,55 stars, 119 notes)
  3. Endaris's Muzukashii (2,78 stars, 318 notes)
  4. Endaris's Oni (3,11 stars, 462 notes)
  5. Insane (4,34 stars, 245 notes)
  6. Journey (5,39 stars, 445 notes)
  7. Kawa's Hard (3,03 stars, 323 notes)
  8. Rikoukz' Extra (5,3 stars, 387 notes)
Download: fhana - little secret magic
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks for the GD's -
c00l for Normal
Kawashiro for Hard
Sakurauchi Riko for Extra
And Endaris for the Taiko diffs ~

Also thanks for Sotarks mp3
Plaudible
quick irc check/discussion over extra :)

irc
18:38 IceKalt: hey~
18:38 Plaudible: hey :) what's up?
18:38 IceKalt: are you busy atm?
18:38 Plaudible: not really
18:39 IceKalt: you have time for a irc / or testplay if you dont feel like irc?
18:39 Plaudible: sure ^^
18:39 IceKalt: oh noice ^^
18:40 IceKalt: but beware - you are like the first one who is modding this map^^
18:40 *IceKalt is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1343172 fhana - little secret magic [Extra]]
18:41 IceKalt: than extra
18:41 IceKalt: and yea - need to think of a better name for the top diff
18:44 Plaudible: hmm
18:44 Plaudible: this is pretty nice
18:45 IceKalt: thanks^^
18:45 Plaudible: i like that you're consistent with concepts throughout, just have a few things i wanna nitpick though
18:46 Plaudible: the intro and ending to this song have like constant drum rolls
18:46 Plaudible: it'd be cool if you could introduce those 1/4 rhythms somehow more
18:46 Plaudible: it feels awkward playing 1/1 sliders when all i hear is 1/4 drums in the bg along with the piano
18:46 Plaudible: in an extra you could probably incorporate more of those rhythms into this
18:47 IceKalt: uhm
18:47 IceKalt: which drums do you mean :D
18:47 Plaudible: starting at 00:00:352 (1) -
18:47 Plaudible: going until 00:07:717 (1) -
18:48 Plaudible: also you make a lot of strong sounds not clicakble
18:48 Plaudible: clickable*
18:48 Plaudible: take the white tick on 00:09:559 (7) - or 00:13:069 (2) - for example
18:48 Plaudible: even when following vocals you want to be sure you don't override some of these important sounds
18:48 IceKalt: 00:07:103 -
18:48 Plaudible: and yeah there too XD
18:48 IceKalt: well
18:49 IceKalt: when i have really strong vocals -
18:49 IceKalt: i want to really emphazise them
18:49 IceKalt: and if there is a beat
18:49 Plaudible: exactly
18:49 Plaudible: building on that though
18:49 Plaudible: when you add more rhythms into it
18:49 Plaudible: you arent taking away from it
18:49 Plaudible: if anything, by making it harder to play
18:49 Plaudible: you add to the vocals there
18:49 Plaudible: just a long slider to follow through doesn't really match the intensity of the vocals yknow?
18:50 IceKalt: i guess you are looking at 00:12:609 (1,2) -
18:50 IceKalt: for example
18:50 Plaudible: yea or 00:15:058 (7,8) -
18:50 Plaudible: oh also
18:50 Plaudible: be sure to check aimod you have a lot of snapping issues
18:51 IceKalt: OH
18:51 IceKalt: what the
18:51 Plaudible: might be since you did sv changes or timing changes
18:51 IceKalt: when i checked last time there was nothing
18:51 IceKalt: probably
18:52 Plaudible: and if you are following vocals strongly, make sure you do consistently, since you're missing out on some points like 00:22:099 (6) -
18:53 IceKalt: well - i did this there because a even strogner vocal was following after that~
18:53 Plaudible: i think spacing emphasis would be more appropriate then if you want to focus on strength in vocals :)
18:53 Plaudible: or flow
18:54 Plaudible: something like http://puu.sh/wzmsO/ba41945933.jpg perhaps
18:55 IceKalt: i like you solution there
18:55 IceKalt: well + consistency because of 00:24:548 (8) -
18:55 Plaudible: ^^
18:55 IceKalt: thats like the same part
18:55 Plaudible: oh another thing
18:55 Plaudible: 00:32:048 (1) -
18:55 Plaudible: 00:36:946 (1) -
18:55 Plaudible: these dont really exist in the music
18:56 Plaudible: even though you're following the drums here, since there's so little to map to i think you really need to do both vocals and drums
18:56 IceKalt: i wanted an offbeat there to emphasise the upcoming intensity
18:57 Plaudible: mm even then, you should avoid throwing in rhythms that dont exist in the song
18:58 IceKalt: i need more opinions there - you are probably right there
18:58 IceKalt: but i wanna let this atm
18:58 Plaudible: your call, no worries
18:58 Plaudible: 00:46:895 (1,2,1,2) - imo these should be spaced a lot more
18:58 Plaudible: since the vocals get a lot stronger going into the chorus
18:58 Plaudible: im talkin like http://puu.sh/wzmDT/20640cfd4d.jpg
18:59 Plaudible: it'll make the jumps ahead be easier too
18:59 Plaudible: and feel a bit more natural
18:59 IceKalt: i can do this i guess
18:59 Plaudible: 00:58:987 - triple here, drums in te bg
19:00 IceKalt: fixed
19:00 Plaudible: 01:02:661 (4,5,6) - i get the vocals being followed here, but consider this rhythm maybe: http://puu.sh/wzmHc/30adb3bc6f.jpg since the drum gets sorta lost
19:00 Plaudible: on the sliderend
19:01 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8488322
19:02 IceKalt: that should work
19:02 Plaudible: o7 looks good
19:02 Plaudible: 01:04:956 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
19:02 Plaudible: this isnt bad persay, but the way it's incorporated doesnt play too well
19:02 Plaudible: since for the strong parts you've been using sharp angled jumps
19:02 Plaudible: switching to linear jumps is extremely noticeable in gameplay and can be really awkward to play out
19:03 Plaudible: 01:18:426 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - consistency with the other part, it's a triple ;u
19:03 Plaudible: 01:23:630 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - again the linear flow deal, and these jumps are a lot smaller than your others though i feel you could go bigger
19:04 IceKalt: i dont feel like making them bigger
19:04 Plaudible: compare it to 01:04:038 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - though :c
19:04 IceKalt: cause its like an introduction - the jumps should get more difficult to play
19:05 IceKalt: but here the jump part is much longer you see?
19:05 IceKalt: so starting off smaller makes it a bit easier
19:05 Plaudible: here lemme try another approach
19:05 Plaudible: compare 01:24:089 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - directly to 01:26:079 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - purely from the song
19:06 Plaudible: they're pretty much identical by sound, though they play a lot different
19:06 Plaudible: i get what you're going for, but this drastic of a change between the same section is a little much
19:06 Plaudible: also note in the final pattern at 01:28:528 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - there's a lot of 1/4 rhythms
19:07 IceKalt: but the mains are -1- 2 3 -1- 2 3...
19:08 IceKalt: you can check this when you turn off speed by 25%
19:08 IceKalt: like the other jump parts
19:08 Plaudible: wait wha
19:08 Plaudible: not complaining about how you emhpasize the jumps, it's right that 1 is emphasized
19:08 Plaudible: but it's just how the spacing devlops
19:09 IceKalt: hm
19:09 Plaudible: and in the last one the rhythm gets quite odd if you literally follow it as it is, something like: http://puu.sh/wzn0W/3bff62c9d8.jpg
19:12 IceKalt: uhm idk but i cant follow your thoughts :(
19:13 IceKalt: or do you mean that the rythm is like this how you showed me
19:13 Plaudible: yeah it is at 01:28:528 (1) -
19:13 Plaudible: might be weird to incorporate but it could be something you could play around with
19:13 IceKalt: uh
19:14 IceKalt: i thinks thats like unplayable
19:14 IceKalt: and would fit in the map
19:14 IceKalt: i dint had like theese complicated rythms anywhere
19:14 IceKalt: well - they are not that complicated - but for the map they are
19:14 Plaudible: you could simplify it into something like this perhaps/
19:14 Plaudible: http://puu.sh/wznbJ/05484be790.jpg
19:16 IceKalt: i guess i let the ryth at it is cause thats like a compleatly other thing i did before
19:16 IceKalt: cause i mostly dont use triples in the map
19:17 IceKalt: and it would be unfitting if the final would be triple spam
19:17 Plaudible: well, not particularly
19:17 Plaudible: the point of mapping is to directly represent the song as much as possible
19:17 Plaudible: if the song gets weird it's okay if your map does too
19:17 IceKalt: or its just that i dislike it xD
19:17 Plaudible: triples arent too out of the ordinary, and it'd fit for sure
19:17 Plaudible: /shrug again, your call
19:18 IceKalt: I'll try remapping that tomorrow with the triples
19:18 IceKalt: that would take too long now
19:18 Plaudible: kk
19:18 IceKalt: and i can decide then what i will choose ^^
19:18 Plaudible: same spiel about the ending as the intro, streaming would be dope for 01:33:440 (1) -
19:18 Plaudible: cause of all the 1/4 drums
19:19 IceKalt: spiel? :D
19:19 Plaudible: those rolls definitely deserve it that drummers' hands are probably dead
19:19 Plaudible: uhh thing that i said earlier
19:19 Plaudible: dont overwrite the 1/4 rhythms, incorporate them
19:19 Plaudible: last little thing i got is that 01:42:624 (1) - the sliderend here should be clickable, it's a strong sound just as strong as the head's sound
19:20 IceKalt: probably yea
19:21 Plaudible: try to play around with some new aesethetics, everything just felt like blankets so it wasn't exciting visually
19:21 IceKalt: uhm :D
19:21 IceKalt: mapping around blankets is like the thing i do
19:22 *IceKalt is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
19:22 IceKalt: look for example this
19:22 Plaudible: i assure you everyone does XD
19:22 IceKalt: this is like purely blaking circular mapping
19:22 Plaudible: but
19:22 Plaudible: theres more you can do
19:22 Plaudible: overlaps arent necessarily bad, and you can incorporate them into your map
19:23 IceKalt: you see - im realtively new to mapping so things like handling overlaps - thats like a thing i need to learn
19:23 Plaudible: parallel structure really add to aesthetics, things like http://puu.sh/wznvN/52861698ee.jpg
19:23 Plaudible: yeah dude no worries
19:23 Plaudible: takes a while to figure out how to use them well
19:24 Plaudible: just look at how other maps incorporate them and play around with some ideas :)
19:24 IceKalt: well i did some of theese in the insane
19:24 IceKalt: 01:40:786 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) -
19:26 IceKalt: (and btw dont complain about spread/hitsounds/etc - this map is 3 days old :D
19:27 Plaudible: XD
19:27 Plaudible: yeah things like that are cool
19:29 IceKalt: in this map i used wide angle more consistently
19:29 IceKalt: diff*
19:30 Plaudible: oh last thing, nc slider SV changes and stuff like at 01:01:130 (8) - in the insane
19:31 IceKalt: should i do it in the extra too?
19:31 IceKalt: cause i have the exact same sv change there (with the same pattern
19:35 Plaudible: oh yeah ofc
19:38 IceKalt: thanks for the mod ^^
19:38 IceKalt: you can post it in the thread - whats your overall opinion of the map?
19:39 Plaudible: sure sure
19:39 Plaudible: hmm
19:39 Plaudible: it's a good start and has some neat ideas but you can do a lot more with it
19:39 Plaudible: will be a while before this is near a quality that bn's might find worth pushing forward
19:39 Plaudible: but it's fairly solid nonetheless
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Insane
  • 00:00:812 (3) - The end of slider 3 should go to where this slider 00:01:579 (1) starts: https://puu.sh/wJo4J/54412d1fa0.jpg
    This is so slider 3 can line up and be parallel to slider 1 (and look neater). If you do do this, then you'll have to move circle 2 more to the right.
    00:01:272 (5,1) - Make these sliders vertical because it's looks a bit random tilted to the side. Another way you could do is to tilt slider 1 the same way as slider 5.
    00:02:499 (5) - Already a lot of straight short sliders. Make this one curve: https://puu.sh/wJojt/282e4922a7.jpg
    00:02:346 (4,5,1) - Circle 4 looks uneven between slider 4 and slider 1. Make it so that it's in the middle of those sliders because circle 4 is more off towards slider 1's direction and like I said, it looks uneven.
    00:03:727 (5) - Make this one curve
    00:06:183 (3) - Ctr + G and make this slider straight, and bring it down by slider 4: https://puu.sh/wJouq/7153dc76ac.jpg
    The area around 00:05:262 (1,2) is so crowded that you need to give it some space.
    00:08:178 (4,5) - I'm not a fan of long sliders so this is just imo, but make the sliders curve: https://puu.sh/wJoFe/886d85f35a.jpg
    (Also make the end of slider 4 go where slider 6 starts.)
    00:11:079 (6) - Make this circle have more space - make the spacing equal like 00:10:773 (4,5)
    00:11:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Could do more with these circle. Make 00:11:538 (1,2,3,4,5) into a star shape pattern and put circle 6 on top of 00:12:609 (1)
    00:14:599 (2,3,4,5) - The pattern here is a bit..unusual. Put circle 2 under where 00:13:681 (4) was just at so the circles look like even: https://puu.sh/wJp5I/c3fb614c30.jpg
    00:20:722 (6,7) - I don't understand why there is a huge gap between these two.. Since there isn't enough space to spread them out evenly, put circle 7 between circle 6 and circle 3, and pit circle 8 under where circle 4 was just at: https://puu.sh/wJpcU/64f2c860ea.jpg
    And since there is a timing gap at 00:21:181 the jump from 00:21:028 (8) to 00:21:334 (1) is ok.
    00:44:599 (2,1,2) - Curve this slider 00:44:599 (2) upwards and curve these sliders downward 00:45:058 (2) / 00:45:518 (2) / 00:45:977 (2) so that it visually looks good.
    00:46:283 (1,2) - Curve these sliders the other way and Ctrl + G slider 2, and bring 00:46:895 (1) between those sliders: https://puu.sh/wJpH4/4be6b9b6ad.jpg
    And this is optional but timing-wise, you could switch 00:46:589 (2) and 00:46:895 (1) around: https://puu.sh/wJpK4/1d3798e93e.jpg (You may also want to remove the circle's nc if you're gonna do this)
    I do recommend that since fhana is going to sing a high-note at the next part and that would be a good time to add in a jump 00:46:742 (2) to 00:47:048 (3)
    00:49:650 (2,3,4,5,6) - You could keep this pattern the way it is, but I would suggest a star shape pattern
    00:56:385 (5) - Slider looks out of place in that position. Another way is to curve it around 00:56:844 (2) https://puu.sh/wJq02/3445c52cac.jpg
    (You'll need to bring circle 2 down to fit slider 5 so that the slider isn't way too out of the map.)
    00:56:997 (3) - ^ Curve this slider around 00:57:609 (6)
    00:59:446 (2) - The circle could be put on top of 00:59:752 (1) which is basically a jump. Imo it's ok since fhana sings "souto" as two words with an accent ("sou" "to"). I don't know if you're getting what I'm saying so I'm sorry for the confusion ;;;
    01:01:589 (1,2) - ^ Move circle 2 to where 01:02:201 (1) starts
    01:00:824 (7) - Ctrl + G and make it so this slider is parallel to 01:01:130 (1)
    01:01:130 (1) - You should extend this slider here 01:01:436 since fhana extends her note further than when you ended the slider
    01:01:130 (1) - Ctrl + G and make the slider parallel to 01:01:130 (1)
    01:05:875 (5,6) - Make these curve around each other: https://puu.sh/wJqDb/ef931a7ce7.jpg
    01:07:712 (6) - nc
    01:08:936 (2) - Good place to do a jump so move this circle on top of 01:09:242 (1)
    01:13:222 (3,4,5) - Imo the flow here is a bit odd, so it could be changed to this instead: https://puu.sh/wJqL6/f2ea24bf3e.jpg
    01:14:446 (3) - Make this circle go on top of the end of this slider 01:15:365 (2)
    01:17:814 (2,3) - Make this sliders curve around each other
    01:19:038 (2) - Put this circle on top of 01:19:344 (1)
    01:21:487 (2) - ^ Move on top of 01:21:793 (1)
    01:20:722 (1) - End this slider here 01:21:028
    01:24:556 (3) - This straight slider looks out of place so curve it around 01:24:097 (2)
    01:25:015 (4) - Also curve this one downward
    01:27:005 (5) - Optional but extend this slider to 01:27:311
    01:33:440 - 01:38:184 - Through out this whole part, you may want to reduce the amount of straight sliders

Light Insane

  • 00:07:717 (1,2) - Make these sliders curve around each other: https://puu.sh/wJreM/27ed46acb6.jpg
    I also did change the way these sliders 00:08:638 (3,4) were positioned so they could fit with slider 1 and slider 2: https://puu.sh/wJrgT/e3f2f1cb5c.jpg
    00:59:140 (1) - This slider looks out of place besides all the straight sliders. I don't think it's at a good timing point to make it curved too so it could be changed into a straight slider and put it beside 00:58:834 (4)
    If you're going to do this, Ctrl + G this slider 00:59:140 (1) to reduce the amount of sliders that go up
    01:10:467 (6,7,8) - Change these into curve sliders: https://puu.sh/wJrBA/64de8e02ab.jpg
    01:16:742 - Add a circle since fhana is still singing at this part
    01:39:715 (5) - This shape doesn't look good against the other sliders nor does it really go well with the flow. Change it into a reversible slider: https://puu.sh/wJrNd/b7654d4c1c.jpg
    01:40:786 (1,2,3,4) - Curve these sliders around each other
    01:48:133 - I think a circle should be fine here

Hoped my mod helped :)
Topic Starter
Icekalt

imaikiseta wrote:

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Insane
  • 00:00:812 (3) - The end of slider 3 should go to where this slider 00:01:579 (1) starts: https://puu.sh/wJo4J/54412d1fa0.jpg
    This is so slider 3 can line up and be parallel to slider 1 (and look neater). If you do do this, then you'll have to move circle 2 more to the right.
    00:01:272 (5,1) - Make these sliders vertical because it's looks a bit random tilted to the side. Another way you could do is to tilt slider 1 the same way as slider 5.
    00:02:499 (5) - Already a lot of straight short sliders. Make this one curve: https://puu.sh/wJojt/282e4922a7.jpg
    00:02:346 (4,5,1) - Circle 4 looks uneven between slider 4 and slider 1. Make it so that it's in the middle of those sliders because circle 4 is more off towards slider 1's direction and like I said, it looks uneven.
    00:03:727 (5) - Make this one curve uhh - i copied 00:00:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - every time and turned it (so it when i change them as you mentioned it wouldnt be the same anymore
    00:06:183 (3) - Ctr + G and make this slider straight, and bring it down by slider 4: https://puu.sh/wJouq/7153dc76ac.jpg i want to have the up and down movement in this section (3 silders)
    The area around 00:05:262 (1,2) is so crowded that you need to give it some space. nah - i want to have the up and down movement in theese 3 sliders
    00:08:178 (4,5) - I'm not a fan of long sliders so this is just imo, but make the sliders curve: https://puu.sh/wJoFe/886d85f35a.jpg
    (Also make the end of slider 4 go where slider 6 starts.) i like it more this way (btw when i would pit (6) there the DS would be too short~
    00:11:079 (6) - Make this circle have more space - make the spacing equal like 00:10:773 (4,5) i did cange it but it couls be that the DS is now to high
    00:11:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Could do more with these circle. Make 00:11:538 (1,2,3,4,5) into a star shape pattern and put circle 6 on top of 00:12:609 (1) This wouldnt make much sense when you hear the intense beats - so the DS shouldnt be equal there - then a star pattern is not possible
    00:14:599 (2,3,4,5) - The pattern here is a bit..unusual. Put circle 2 under where 00:13:681 (4) was just at so the circles look like even: https://puu.sh/wJp5I/c3fb614c30.jpg same as above - i want that the intense beats are shown in the map with DS - theese pattern would destroy that
    00:20:722 (6,7) - I don't understand why there is a huge gap between these two.. Since there isn't enough space to spread them out evenly, put circle 7 between circle 6 and circle 3, and pit circle 8 under where circle 4 was just at: https://puu.sh/wJpcU/64f2c860ea.jpg ^ (btw
    And since there is a timing gap at 00:21:181 the jump from 00:21:028 (8) to 00:21:334 (1) is ok. because i want to emphasize the intense beats (like in the other patterns) so the jumps are not random/just for patterns
    00:44:599 (2,1,2) - Curve this slider 00:44:599 (2) upwards and curve these sliders downward 00:45:058 (2) / 00:45:518 (2) / 00:45:977 (2) so that it visually looks good. did a bit
    00:46:283 (1,2) - Curve these sliders the other way and Ctrl + G slider 2, and bring 00:46:895 (1) between those sliders: https://puu.sh/wJpH4/4be6b9b6ad.jpg that would destroy that pattern 00:46:895 (1,2,1,2) - what i use very often in this map/set
    And this is optional but timing-wise, you could switch 00:46:589 (2) and 00:46:895 (1) around: https://puu.sh/wJpK4/1d3798e93e.jpg (You may also want to remove the circle's nc if you're gonna do this) i want her voice on the sliderhead (i did so equaly in every diff)
    I do recommend that since fhana is going to sing a high-note at the next part and that would be a good time to add in a jump 00:46:742 (2) to 00:47:048 (3) this voice pattern is the same as 00:44:446 (1,2,1,2) - so i would use this more than a jump(and i also think that theese long jumpsections with 00:47:814 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is not so good for an insane diff at 195 bpm
    00:49:650 (2,3,4,5,6) - You could keep this pattern the way it is, but I would suggest a star shape pattern you like starpatters huh :D - well i want to emphasize 00:50:263 (6) - cause of increased intensity so a star pattern woulndt be so nice
    00:56:385 (5) - Slider looks out of place in that position. Another way is to curve it around 00:56:844 (2) https://puu.sh/wJq02/3445c52cac.jpg
    (You'll need to bring circle 2 down to fit slider 5 so that the slider isn't way too out of the map.)that would mess up the DS in the part (i dont see a problem with the slider imo)
    00:56:997 (3) - ^ Curve this slider around 00:57:609 (6) then 00:56:844 (2,3) - would have a unfitting DS and the pattern 00:57:763 (1,2,3,4,5) - wouldnt be possible anymore
    00:59:446 (2) - The circle could be put on top of 00:59:752 (1) which is basically a jump. Imo it's ok since fhana sings "souto" as two words with an accent ("sou" "to"). I don't know if you're getting what I'm saying so I'm sorry for the confusion ;;; uhm the thing with the souto is - that it should be seperated from the rest like 01:01:589 (1,2) - cause its a huge change in the music - i know what you getting at but i think its fine that way
    01:01:589 (1,2) - ^ Move circle 2 to where 01:02:201 (1) starts
    01:00:824 (7) - Ctrl + G and make it so this slider is parallel to 01:01:130 (1)
    01:01:130 (1) - You should extend this slider here 01:01:436 since fhana extends her note further than when you ended the slider i want to emphasize the strong beat on 01:01:283 - (maybe i change it later idk)
    01:01:130 (1) - Ctrl + G and make the slider parallel to 01:01:130 (1) it would make sense when its the kind of beat - but that isnt the case here
    01:05:875 (5,6) - Make these curve around each other: https://puu.sh/wJqDb/ef931a7ce7.jpg
    01:07:712 (6) - nc fixed
    01:08:936 (2) - Good place to do a jump so move this circle on top of 01:09:242 (1) i use the same pattern here as 01:01:589 (1,2) -
    01:13:222 (3,4,5) - Imo the flow here is a bit odd, so it could be changed to this instead: https://puu.sh/wJqL6/f2ea24bf3e.jpg changed it (but not your way ^^)
    01:14:446 (3) - Make this circle go on top of the end of this slider 01:15:365 (2) it would mess up the DS and you dont see the overlap while playing so i guess its ok
    01:17:814 (2,3) - Make this sliders curve around each other (very objective)
    01:19:038 (2) - Put this circle on top of 01:19:344 (1)
    01:21:487 (2) - ^ Move on top of 01:21:793 (1) ^
    01:20:722 (1) - End this slider here 01:21:028 ^
    01:24:556 (3) - This straight slider looks out of place so curve it around 01:24:097 (2) it doesnt -> look at 00:08:178 (4,5,6) -
    01:25:015 (4) - Also curve this one downward ^
    01:27:005 (5) - Optional but extend this slider to 01:27:311 dont see why cause even the vocal stops there
    01:33:440 - 01:38:184 - Through out this whole part, you may want to reduce the amount of straight sliders its the same part as the beginning (with copy paste etc)

Light Insane
[notice][list]
00:07:717 (1,2) - Make these sliders curve around each other: https://puu.sh/wJreM/27ed46acb6.jpg i did like this in the upper diff too so i want to stay it like that
I also did change the way these sliders 00:08:638 (3,4) were positioned so they could fit with slider 1 and slider 2: https://puu.sh/wJrgT/e3f2f1cb5c.jpg
00:59:140 (1) - This slider looks out of place besides all the straight sliders. I don't think it's at a good timing point to make it curved too so it could be changed into a straight slider and put it beside 00:58:834 (4) 0:59:140 (1) - / 01:01:589 (1) - etc (btw they are the same) should look different from the rest cause the music changed there how it never did before
If you're going to do this, Ctrl + G this slider 00:59:140 (1) to reduce the amount of sliders that go up
01:10:467 (6,7,8) - Change these into curve sliders: https://puu.sh/wJrBA/64de8e02ab.jpg did it a but different but equal - changed
01:16:742 - Add a circle since fhana is still singing at this part i think its fine but could be changing it after other mods
01:39:715 (5) - This shape doesn't look good against the other sliders nor does it really go well with the flow. Change it into a reversible slider: https://puu.sh/wJrNd/b7654d4c1c.jpg changes
01:40:786 (1,2,3,4) - Curve these sliders around each other i will let it cause of the other multiple ones
01:48:133 - I think a circle should be fine here i do it like in the other dffs ^^

Hoped my mod helped :)
Even when there is alot red - mods always help (i felt like the mod was more subjective so there is always a chance that i wil/ can disagree)

Thank you very much for the mod and have a nice day^^
Juiceys
Normal :

Slider velocity is too fast! Look at the songs with a similar difficulty, the sliders are all way slower, You need to make it slower, maybe 0.7 would work

Light Insane:

Your nc pattern seems to be a bit inconsistent. At first you NC on downbeats, and then 00:14:446 (1,2,3,4) - Here you don't
00:16:589 (1,2,3) - Here you don't
00:19:956 (1) - And then you do it again.
00:26:385 (1,2,3) - and then you don't

I don't see much consistency and it's really weird

00:21:487 (2) - Why is there a jump here when the sounds and vocals 00:21:640 (3,4) - here are equal in volume

00:54:548 (5,6,7) - Believe DS should be reduced a bit more, Not many prominent noises compared to other sections
01:13:222 (6,7) - ^

Pretty good set!
Topic Starter
Icekalt

Juiceys wrote:

Normal :

Slider velocity is too fast! Look at the songs with a similar difficulty, the sliders are all way slower, You need to make it slower, maybe 0.7 would work
very sorry not to say to you but ill delete the diff anyway so dont matter (its shit :P )

Light Insane:

Your nc pattern seems to be a bit inconsistent. At first you NC on downbeats, and then 00:14:446 (1,2,3,4) -
00:16:589 (1,2,3) - Here you don't
00:19:956 (1) - And then you do it again. 2 abouve fixed
00:26:385 (1,2,3) - and then you don't here i did this so the player can better see that there is a 1/2 gap

I don't see much consistency and it's really weird

00:21:487 (2) - Why is there a jump here when the sounds and vocals 00:21:640 (3,4) - here are equal in volume
its because of the strong sound on 00:21:487 (2) - (i did the jumps there to emphasize them like in 00:20:875 (6,7) -
but thanks to you i saw the emphasis maistake on 00:21:946 (5,6) - ^^


00:54:548 (5,6,7) - Believe DS should be reduced a bit more, Not many prominent noises compared to other sections uhm did a tiny bit but the DS isnt really high her ein the first place^^
01:13:222 (6,7) - ^ ^

Pretty good set!thanks!
Thanks for the mod and have a nice day :)
timemon
mod
[Insane]
Volume is quite loud

slider shape inconsistency at 00:00:352 - and similar parts
00:02:499 (5,1) - for example, you should use copy pasting sliders more often especially when they are both visible. You could just copy paste the (5) and ctrl + H it and it will work as 1

00:23:783 (5,6) - you seem to be focusing on the vocal before and definitely at 00:24:089 (7,8,9,10) - . should just make (5, 6) a 1/2 slider as emphasizing both instruments and vocal will end up emphasizing nothing

00:29:752 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think it's better to map to the vocal as the song isn't really calm at this part

01:01:130 (1) - why sudden SV change? I dont see anything would warrant such a change

01:28:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the 3 of each combos are silent might as well just make every one of them 1/1 slider

[Light Insane]
00:58:222 (2,3,4) - why do these sliders have so little spacing emphasis they're quite loud, same for similar pattern in this section

01:28:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - stick with one way as it's inconsistent and I prefer the long sliders than those circles

the diff is very similar to the Insane so the previous diff suggestions should also apply here

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Icekalt

timemon wrote:

mod
[Insane]
Volume is quite loud

slider shape inconsistency at 00:00:352 - and similar parts
00:02:499 (5,1) - for example, you should use copy pasting sliders more often especially when they are both visible. You could just copy paste the (5) and ctrl + H it and it will work as 1 uh . i copy pastet 00:00:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - and turned it multiple times in this section- made it more visible now with 00:02:807 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - turning this so that 00:02:499 (5,1) - are parallel

00:23:783 (5,6) - you seem to be focusing on the vocal before and definitely at 00:24:089 (7,8,9,10) - . should just make (5, 6) a 1/2 slider as emphasizing both instruments and vocal will end up emphasizing nothing i didnt really liked how that emphasis with the music/map so i made (5) to a reverse (this is better imo)

00:29:752 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think it's better to map to the vocal as the song isn't really calm at this part huh - in my view this is a very calm section (in vomparison with the rest) and i like to have a chilly phase in my map so i let that ^^

01:01:130 (1) - why sudden SV change? I dont see anything would warrant such a change i changed the SV here to emphasis that the music stops there and the vocal is fading a bit away - it fits quite good with the section

01:28:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the 3 of each combos are silent might as well just make every one of them 1/1 slider I changed the patterns in the section with making in the 1st two 1,2,3s into 1 (cirlce) with 2 (slider) - i want to have the 1,2,3 at the end to empasize the most intense section of the song

[Light Insane]
00:58:222 (2,3,4) - why do these sliders have so little spacing emphasis they're quite loud, same for similar pattern in this section i guess thats just a pattern i like to do (and it fits with the music imo) but incresed DS slightly - when other point out this section i will chnange it more likely

01:28:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - stick with one way as it's inconsistent and I prefer the long sliders than those circles when i make one section only with 1/1 there it would destroy the emphasis with the most intense part of the song

the diff is very similar to the Insane so the previous diff suggestions should also apply here

Good luck!
Thanks for the mod and have a nice day^^
Kimi
Rikoukz' extra

Hey a noob short mod coming your way :D

00:19:344 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - This pattern is quite a mess and unnecessary. There is nothing that follows this logic later in the map and i cant quite wrap my head around it. 00:19:727 (2,3) - Why the spacing change here but then the white tick isn't emphasized with spacing but these are?

01:06:487 (1) - This is mapped to the end of the stream which is fine but 01:09:089 (1) - This is also mapped to the end of the stream and its half a beat gap, but still the same spacing as the first one, so the player sees the spacing and expects it to be same as the last part but it isn't.

00:22:099 (6,1) - Huge gap but then with same rhythm 00:23:477 (3,1) - This spacing is non existent since it even overlaps. The song doesn't change a whole lot but these two similar sections are mapped completely different
Sakurauchi Riko

Fr4mes wrote:

Rikoukz' extra

Hey a noob short mod coming your way :D

00:19:344 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - This pattern is quite a mess and unnecessary. There is nothing that follows this logic later in the map and i cant quite wrap my head around it. 00:19:727 (2,3) - Why the spacing change here but then the white tick isn't emphasized with spacing but these are? guess thats true after all... hey you have to admit - it looked beautiful ! changed

01:06:487 (1) - This is mapped to the end of the stream which is fine but 01:09:089 (1) - This is also mapped to the end of the stream and its half a beat gap, but still the same spacing as the first one, so the player sees the spacing and expects it to be same as the last part but it isn't. yes true, kind of missleading heree

00:22:099 (6,1) - Huge gap but then with same rhythm 00:23:477 (3,1) - This spacing is non existent since it even overlaps. The song doesn't change a whole lot but these two similar sections are mapped completely different the idea behind that is, 00:22:405 - is a strong vocal that is complimented also by a strong sound therefore it is spaced for emphasis, unlike 00:23:936 (1) - which is a weak vocal (and not special vocal because the following 1/2 vocals are pretty much the same) and therefore deserves no emphasis, thats why this is stacked under the sliderend
thank for mod ! !! :)

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232,208,62201,2,0,L|224:148,1,60
216,60,62507,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,116,62661,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,96,62967,1,0,0:0:0:0:
251,260,63273,2,0,P|250:289|258:318,1,60
340,360,63579,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,360,63732,2,0,L|399:354,1,60
480,256,64038,6,0,P|484:227|477:198,2,60
396,232,64497,2,0,L|272:232,1,120
196,271,64956,2,0,P|187:300|190:330,2,60
116,231,65416,2,0,P|138:177|120:121,1,120
127,31,65875,2,0,P|98:32|71:45,1,60
40,128,66181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
40,128,66334,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,231,66487,6,0,L|236:231,1,120
320,259,66946,2,0,B|336:235|320:199|320:199|304:163|320:139,1,120
368,72,67405,2,0,P|398:65|427:69,1,60
461,152,67712,1,0,0:0:0:0:
461,152,67865,2,0,P|431:156|402:149,1,60
373,236,68171,2,0,P|402:229|431:233,1,60
465,316,68477,2,0,P|408:332|349:323,1,120
260,332,68936,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,272,69242,6,0,P|85:242|92:208,1,60
72,124,69548,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,124,69701,2,0,L|144:128,1,60
184,200,70007,2,0,L|320:192,1,120
392,172,70467,2,0,P|384:200|385:230,1,60
472,204,70773,1,0,0:0:0:0:
472,204,70926,1,0,0:0:0:0:
472,204,71079,2,0,P|473:174|465:145,1,60
400,84,71385,5,0,0:0:0:0:
292,228,71691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,228,71844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,228,71997,2,0,L|272:292,1,60
252,372,72303,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,312,72456,2,0,B|156:288|156:288|72:288,1,120
12,224,72916,2,0,P|11:194|21:166,1,60
92,108,73222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,108,73375,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,108,73528,2,0,L|168:120,1,60
240,132,73834,5,0,0:0:0:0:
396,224,74140,2,0,P|404:252|398:281,1,60
420,368,74446,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,368,74599,2,0,L|324:360,1,60
292,304,74905,2,0,B|272:317|236:301|236:301|200:285|176:301,1,120
104,352,75365,2,0,P|91:325|87:295,1,60
40,220,75671,2,0,L|168:228,1,120
248,236,76130,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,192,76283,5,0,0:0:0:0:
328,192,76436,1,0,0:0:0:0:
327,192,76589,2,0,P|356:185|385:191,1,60
386,281,76895,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,280,77048,2,0,P|356:286|327:280,1,60
248,236,77354,2,0,L|248:84,1,120
188,48,77814,2,0,P|168:70|159:99,1,60
128,184,78120,2,0,P|157:189|186:182,1,60
276,196,78426,2,0,P|305:189|334:194,1,60
412,236,78732,6,0,L|416:304,1,60
420,384,79038,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,216,79344,2,0,P|476:188|453:169,1,60
364,156,79650,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,220,79803,2,0,B|296:272|296:272|316:304|309:336,1,120
220,324,80263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,336,80416,2,0,B|123:303|143:271|143:271|135:219,1,120
88,144,80875,2,0,P|63:161|48:186,1,60
4,264,81181,6,0,L|76:276,1,60
152,288,81487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,191,81793,2,0,P|315:164|314:134,1,60
256,64,82099,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,148,82252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,40,82558,1,0,0:0:0:0:
436,208,82865,2,0,P|437:237|429:266,1,60
347,308,83171,1,0,0:0:0:0:
347,308,83324,2,0,L|288:302,1,60
156,368,83638,6,0,P|126:370|100:357,2,60
144,280,84097,2,0,L|156:144,1,120
28,92,84556,2,0,P|19:63|27:34,2,60
112,56,85015,2,0,L|244:60,1,120
320,36,85474,2,0,P|321:65|312:94,1,60
248,160,85780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,160,85933,1,0,0:0:0:0:
359,264,86086,6,0,P|386:251|416:253,2,60
292,324,86546,2,0,B|245:331|245:331|175:310,1,120
67,188,87005,2,0,P|37:180|8:187,2,60
152,232,87464,2,0,L|148:112,1,120
76,60,87923,2,0,P|62:86|61:116,1,60
10,188,88229,2,0,P|36:201|66:202,1,60
160,280,88535,6,0,L|165:340,2,60
240,176,88995,2,0,L|244:116,2,60
297,292,89454,2,0,L|441:280,1,120
452,156,89913,2,0,P|481:162|510:159,2,60
344,88,90372,2,0,P|314:82|285:85,1,60
164,172,90678,2,0,P|157:202|160:231,1,60
40,144,90984,5,0,0:0:0:0:
120,24,93440,6,0,P|92:17|62:20,2,60
185,89,93899,2,0,L|189:161,2,60
245,21,94358,2,0,P|273:11|303:11,1,60
381,57,94664,6,0,L|445:41,2,60
313,113,95123,2,0,L|249:97,2,60
381,173,95582,2,0,P|390:202|388:232,1,60
452,292,95888,6,0,L|528:280,2,60
368,325,96348,2,0,P|360:353|364:383,2,60
300,264,96807,2,0,L|241:274,1,60
156,304,97113,6,0,P|159:334|149:362,1,60
68,320,97419,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,320,97572,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,320,97725,2,0,L|80:248,1,60
92,172,98031,2,0,L|80:100,1,60
116,28,98337,6,0,P|88:21|58:24,2,60
185,89,98797,2,0,L|189:161,2,60
248,24,99256,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,120,99562,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,120,99715,2,0,P|410:149|404:178,1,60
340,240,100021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,240,100174,2,0,L|280:236,1,60
192,228,100480,1,0,0:0:0:0:
345,325,100786,6,0,P|355:353|353:382,2,60
264,368,101246,2,0,L|128:376,1,120
72,320,101705,2,0,B|56:296|72:260|72:260|88:224|72:200,1,120
36,124,102164,2,0,L|172:132,1,120
248,140,102623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,236,103235,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,103388,12,0,108133,0:0:0:0:

GL :)
Topic Starter
Icekalt
i will add hs immediatly and upload it ^^
C00L
https://puu.sh/xa27c/a9ad898873.osu

add "cool" to tags as well pls :D
Vivyanne
cool told me to post

he changed a NC

anyways theres some unrankable stuff. cool's metadata is screwed up by puush so you gotta fix the unicode. also in more diffs in the mapset there are a lot of diffs with 2 green lines at the same point. listing here
- Normal
- Hard
- Light Insane
- Insane
- Extra
might wanna get those out of the way

the following diffs have unsnapped objects:
- Light Insane
- Extra

let CTRL+SHIFT+A be with you.

log with C00L on his diff
2017-08-15 02:57 HighTec: Akitoshi's Normal
2017-08-15 02:57 HighTec: tfw i didnt even know i had osu open
2017-08-15 02:57 C00L: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1387076 fhana - little secret magic]
2017-08-15 02:58 HighTec: o its gonna be a dense one
2017-08-15 02:58 HighTec: wait
2017-08-15 02:58 HighTec: icekalt is currently a mentee
2017-08-15 02:59 HighTec: ok i found some stuff
2017-08-15 02:59 HighTec: want me to complain?
2017-08-15 02:59 HighTec: wont make you drop, just like a mod
2017-08-15 02:59 C00L: ugh
2017-08-15 02:59 C00L: its finisehd
2017-08-15 02:59 C00L: so complain all u want i gues
2017-08-15 02:59 C00L: its just a normal
2017-08-15 02:59 C00L: xd
2017-08-15 03:00 HighTec: 00:11:538 (4,5) - questionable. since the vocals keep on going on the same spam but the song makes it look like it are 2 different rhythms
2017-08-15 03:00 C00L: changes
2017-08-15 03:01 C00L: plus guitar
2017-08-15 03:01 HighTec: o yea the guitar
2017-08-15 03:01 HighTec: tru nvm then Xd
2017-08-15 03:01 C00L: 1/4 vocals too
2017-08-15 03:01 HighTec: 00:16:589 (1,2,3) - risky for a normal diff. usually you want both head and tails to emphasise equal sounds in the song, so keeping that in mind using the sliderends as filler seems like a big risk
2017-08-15 03:02 HighTec: making it 1/1 circles would also help the density of the map out a bit
2017-08-15 03:02 HighTec: since currently it's really dense
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: this is
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: one of the harder normals
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: therefore thats fine
2017-08-15 03:02 HighTec: IS THAT YOUR REASONING
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: im doing a u
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: nah but
2017-08-15 03:02 HighTec: Bitch
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: sliders like that
2017-08-15 03:02 C00L: have been introduced early
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: plus 1/2 sliders are everywhere in the map
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: just because its a bit denser doesnt make it that harder
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: im just saying its risky
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: dude
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: ure mum is risky
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: density = difficulty
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: in normals
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: bro
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: its
2017-08-15 03:03 C00L: 3 taps
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: im just saying
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: geez
2017-08-15 03:03 HighTec: dont attack me
2017-08-15 03:04 C00L: ITS
2017-08-15 03:04 C00L: 3 TRES Trzy UNos Quatres
2017-08-15 03:04 HighTec: .
2017-08-15 03:04 C00L: :)
2017-08-15 03:04 C00L: bro im barelly lookin at screen so if i dont answer at one point just be aware that i might have crashed on my desk
2017-08-15 03:04 HighTec: o
2017-08-15 03:05 HighTec: 00:43:834 (4) - idk about this slider
2017-08-15 03:05 HighTec: cause vocals start on the end of it
2017-08-15 03:05 HighTec: which stands out more ya
2017-08-15 03:05 C00L: drumz
2017-08-15 03:05 C00L: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2017-08-15 03:05 C00L: 00:46:283 (1) -
2017-08-15 03:05 C00L: here too
2017-08-15 03:05 C00L: like
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: vocals are on slider ends sometimes sometimes not
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: meh
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: plus ending on it
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: gives that sort of impact before the 00:44:446 (1,2) -
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: little break
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: cuz vocals are kinda meh intensity tbf
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: they are fading
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: so
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: leaving them on the end actually bring the 1/2 sliders here 00:44:446 (1,2) -
2017-08-15 03:06 HighTec: 00:46:283 (1) - delet nc
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: to feel more intense
2017-08-15 03:06 C00L: donut
2017-08-15 03:07 HighTec: having the 1-2 combo suddenly pop up out of nowhere is meh
2017-08-15 03:07 C00L: donut as in done
2017-08-15 03:07 HighTec: oo
2017-08-15 03:07 HighTec: people say donut as do not more often
2017-08-15 03:07 HighTec: so
2017-08-15 03:07 HighTec: d
2017-08-15 03:09 C00L: d
2017-08-15 03:09 HighTec: 00:59:140 (1) - you could definetly have done something cooler here
2017-08-15 03:09 HighTec: to emphasise the big instrument change
2017-08-15 03:09 C00L: actuly
2017-08-15 03:09 C00L: i tried other stuff
2017-08-15 03:10 C00L: but a repeat kinda makes it feel as if the vocals and the instruments are colliding together
2017-08-15 03:10 C00L: thats what the repeat does
2017-08-15 03:10 C00L: so i kept it
2017-08-15 03:10 HighTec: iknow but i feel like
2017-08-15 03:10 HighTec: since you used that in other occations too
2017-08-15 03:10 HighTec: this doesn't stand out anymore
2017-08-15 03:10 HighTec: try stacking notes on 1/1
2017-08-15 03:10 C00L: meh
2017-08-15 03:10 C00L: havnt used stacks
2017-08-15 03:10 HighTec: you have
2017-08-15 03:11 C00L: would seem out of place
2017-08-15 03:11 C00L: i mean
2017-08-15 03:11 C00L: as in
2017-08-15 03:11 HighTec: isnt that the point im trying to make
2017-08-15 03:11 C00L: like individual circles
2017-08-15 03:11 HighTec: to make it look out of place
2017-08-15 03:11 HighTec: cuz the crash in the instruments is out of place too
2017-08-15 03:11 C00L: disagreed
2017-08-15 03:11 HighTec: doing something usual actually fits here tho
2017-08-15 03:12 C00L: dk
2017-08-15 03:13 C00L: i like the current one tbh
2017-08-15 03:13 C00L: dont see any point to change it
2017-08-15 03:13 C00L: 1/1 woudnt be as cool as current
2017-08-15 03:13 HighTec: overall im just kinda
2017-08-15 03:13 C00L: neither would be 1/1 split into 1/2's
2017-08-15 03:13 HighTec: thrown off by the rhythm you choose
2017-08-15 03:13 HighTec: cause you are the first one
2017-08-15 03:13 HighTec: i ever see
2017-08-15 03:13 HighTec: to tend more to bg noises than the prominent noises
2017-08-15 03:14 HighTec: in a low diff
2017-08-15 03:14 C00L: everyone interprets stuff differently
2017-08-15 03:14 HighTec: it's more of a
2017-08-15 03:14 HighTec: people map normals to prominent stuff cause it's the easiest to follow for the beginning player
2017-08-15 03:14 HighTec: which is mostly taken in mind when mapping this kinda diffs
2017-08-15 03:14 C00L: i mean
2017-08-15 03:15 C00L: so do i
2017-08-15 03:15 C00L: lol
2017-08-15 03:15 C00L: everything is easy to follow
2017-08-15 03:15 HighTec: also gz on 00:37:405 -
2017-08-15 03:15 HighTec: the drums arent prominent, you know the piano and vocals are mostly stronger :vv
2017-08-15 03:16 C00L: d
2017-08-15 03:16 HighTec: (the timepoint has 2 green lines!!!!)
2017-08-15 03:16 C00L: wel
2017-08-15 03:16 C00L: i copied lines from easy
2017-08-15 03:16 HighTec: LOL
2017-08-15 03:16 HighTec: also u shud tell ur guy to get unicode fixed
2017-08-15 03:16 HighTec: cause yours is fucked
2017-08-15 03:16 HighTec: did u send it with puush
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuush
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: yea
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: lol
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: then ur unicode is fucked
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: my unicode is gret
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: tell ur host
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: bVR o
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: u post
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: for kds
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: or something
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: not worth
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: i didnt make apoint
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: im only confused xd
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: meta and unrankable line
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: dud u post that urself for kd
2017-08-15 03:17 C00L: lo
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: i dont care about posting
2017-08-15 03:17 HighTec: unless somethign happened in the map
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: post
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: i wont
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: "C00L ur rhythms SUx Ass"
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: u can post the log
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: ez kds
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: WAIT
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: WTF
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: cba
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: WHY AR5
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: ARE YOU DRUNK
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: ugh
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: this SR and bpm
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: is an instant
2017-08-15 03:18 C00L: no why
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: 4 - 4,5
2017-08-15 03:18 HighTec: you don't even have
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: 2.29*
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: stacks
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: so why have the ar so high
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: cuz
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: ez is 3
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: hard is 8,5
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: zd
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: WOT
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: WAT ARE ALL THOSE ARS
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: xddd
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: WHY IS HARD 8,5
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: .
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: dk
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: its too late
2017-08-15 03:19 C00L: post
2017-08-15 03:19 HighTec: i should just go to bed
Topic Starter
Icekalt
Fixed everything

How the heck did this with the green lines happen zzzzz
Saileach
m4m from mentorship xd

Journey
00:10:467 (2,3,4) - 90 degree angles like this are pretty annoying to hit during gameplay especially if you consider the player not following 1 as a slider and only hitting the head as it comes from a sharp angle
00:16:589 (2,3,4) - While this pattern looks cute, the actual movement required is pretty low which just loses all emphasis you were trying to get
00:17:661 (2,3,1) - perhaps even spacing to make it neater
00:18:121 (2,3,1) - ^
00:27:763 (2) - Not really a fan of this slider shape, just looks a little messy while everything else is trying to be organised
00:55:314 (1) - This is offscreen
01:04:038 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I feel changing from sharp to linear patterns isnt the greatest of ideas here as linear patterns have a different feel of emphasis compared to sharp while you are trying to use them both to represent intense vocals

Rikoukz' Extra
00:21:487 (2,3,4,5,6) - I feel visual spacing here could be improved here, while the entire map is so neat, this pattern just feels like it sticks out to me
00:39:548 (1,3) - Probably could use some more breathing room, this blanket is pretty tight
00:47:048 (1,2) - fix stack?
01:33:440 (1) - since this is the end of the song, you could probably make this rhythm a bit more dense instead of just the same as the beginning to show progression of intensity or smth
01:37:878 (1,2,3,4) - If you were going to keep if as the same as the start then perhaps dont use a linear pattern here as in the start you used more sharps and imo more confortable

Insane
00:00:812 (3,4,5) - Visual spacing with these could be much better, right now they look messy and rushed as 3 and 5 look much closer to each other than 3 to 4 and 4 to 5, this could be fixed with blankets
00:04:801 (4,5,6) - Probably just make this a triangle and rotate it a bit, looks a bit messy, the 6 overlap doesnt really fit imo
00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This honestly just isnt that appealing to me, it feels so out of place and could be represented in other ways to which i feel 8 consecutive 1/2s are a little much
00:24:089 (6,7,8,9) - just make a triangle on both sides like this and just rotate it, makes it so much neater imo and looks better http://puu.sh/xaFcC/1af4b77f27.png
00:25:773 (4) - ends on such a strong sound, feels a little off to prioratise the vocal over this imo
00:43:069 (5) - Curve could use some improvement, the start is close to the 3 than the end
01:04:497 (2) - ^
01:11:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - as said before in your top diff, sharp angles into wide play often poorly
01:13:222 (3) - stack on 01:11:691 (1) - ?
01:33:440 (1) - same as 00:00:812 (3,4,5) - since its a repeat of the start
Topic Starter
Icekalt

DakiniBrave wrote:

m4m from mentorship xd

Journey
00:10:467 (2,3,4) - 90 degree angles like this are pretty annoying to hit during gameplay especially if you consider the player not following 1 as a slider and only hitting the head as it comes from a sharp angle replaced the slider
00:16:589 (2,3,4) - While this pattern looks cute, the actual movement required is pretty low which just loses all emphasis you were trying to get rearanged pattern without losing circluar flow
00:17:661 (2,3,1) - perhaps even spacing to make it neater
00:18:121 (2,3,1) - ^ oups - fixed
00:27:763 (2) - Not really a fan of this slider shape, just looks a little messy while everything else is trying to be organised made it better
00:55:314 (1) - This is offscreen zzzzzzz
01:04:038 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I feel changing from sharp to linear patterns isnt the greatest of ideas here as linear patterns have a different feel of emphasis compared to sharp while you are trying to use them both to represent intense vocals see this pattern maybe more open with 01:06:487 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - i wanted like to do two different pattern and create with both another one with the mixture of both
it may plays different but fits personally well (and even if they are wide angles the 3rd section is the hardest)

Insane
00:00:812 (3,4,5) - Visual spacing with these could be much better, right now they look messy and rushed as 3 and 5 look much closer to each other than 3 to 4 and 4 to 5, this could be fixed with blankets
00:04:801 (4,5,6) - Probably just make this a triangle and rotate it a bit, looks a bit messy, the 6 overlap doesnt really fit imo rearanged the jump pattern (not to a triangle but to a jump where the DS highers every jump
00:19:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This honestly just isnt that appealing to me, it feels so out of place and could be represented in other ways to which i feel 8 consecutive 1/2s are a little much after some time i really hated this pattern - changed it
00:24:089 (6,7,8,9) - just make a triangle on both sides like this and just rotate it, makes it so much neater imo and looks better http://puu.sh/xaFcC/1af4b77f27.png oups - that was so unclean by me
00:25:773 (4) - ends on such a strong sound, feels a little off to prioratise the vocal over this imo made this a reverse
00:43:069 (5) - Curve could use some improvement, the start is close to the 3 than the end improved
01:04:497 (2) - ^ ok now what is this shit
01:11:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - as said before in your top diff, sharp angles into wide play often poorly i think thats fine here
01:13:222 (3) - stack on 01:11:691 (1) - ? changed the pattern there a bit
01:33:440 (1) - same as 00:00:812 (3,4,5) - since its a repeat of the start ^
Thank you very much for the mod ~
Sakurauchi Riko

DakiniBrave wrote:

Rikoukz' Extra
00:21:487 (2,3,4,5,6) - I feel visual spacing here could be improved here, while the entire map is so neat, this pattern just feels like it sticks out to me oki
00:39:548 (1,3) - Probably could use some more breathing room, this blanket is pretty tight its because rhythm is 1/4 that introduce the pattern
00:47:048 (1,2) - fix stack? did
01:33:440 (1) - since this is the end of the song, you could probably make this rhythm a bit more dense instead of just the same as the beginning to show progression of intensity or smth ok
01:37:878 (1,2,3,4) - If you were going to keep if as the same as the start then perhaps dont use a linear pattern here as in the start you used more sharps and imo more confortable linear fits more to the increasing intesity of sounds, its shlightly shaped now cuz changes from above
thank
#oü
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Akitoshi
C00L sent me here

Easy
  1. 00:13:987 (1) - idk what's following here tbh :( i assume u followed the vocals on 00:13:069 (5) - so the next object should b started on 00:14:446 - from the vocal rhythm's logic, similar thing goes to 00:23:783 (1) - as well
  2. 00:39:548 (3) - NC? I guess you following the measure but ye the calm part ended so i guess you need it
  3. 00:49:344 (1,2,3) - Since you used to followed the vocals how about using this rhythm? This can be also be more consistent with 00:54:548 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3) - as well cuz u followed vocals thereee
  4. yh u have som potential
C00L
  1. 00:31:589 (4) - I don't think the stack would be great here as it has strong drum compared to 00:30:671 (2) - , consider to unstack this or just reverse the 00:30:977 (3) -
  2. 00:39:242 (4) - unstack pls it has finishhh
  3. 00:44:446 (1,2,3,4) - 00:47:048 (1,2) - those 1/2 sliders usage is kinda questionable as normal diff imo, 1/1 sliders with 1/2 beat gap plays more natural as low diff but idk it's just my taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (or u can just get the reference from 01:23:638 - for rhythm)
  4. 01:09:242 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:691 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm fits more with vocals tbh, since their vocal rhythm is different from 01:13:834 (1,2,3,4) -
  5. yh it's ok
Kawashiro
  1. 00:56:691 (1,2,3) - 1/1 slider + circle for held sound from vocals? 1/2 triples looks kinda spammd from 00:56:079 (7,8) - since u using too much 1/2 rhythm xd same for 01:16:283 (1,2,3) -
  2. 00:58:528 (8) - also 1/2 slider + circle fits bettr here i guess
  3. those 3 stacks on kiais aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa u can unstack every 3rd object there alr but yehaj i know its ur style anyways w nice flow btw
Riko
  1. 00:04:034 (4,5) - isn't should be like 00:02:807 (5,1,2) - ? adding kick on 00:04:341 - can be unify as new pattern from 00:02:807 -
  2. 00:02:807 (5,1) - also u should've swap nc w
  3. 00:12:609 (1,2) - 01:26:086 (1,2) - stack w
  4. 00:49:956 (3,4) - 00:52:405 (3,4) - they are really undermapped with vocals rhythm compared to others :(
  5. 01:30:066 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - uhh i don't think circular flow work here as u did this kind of pattern for first time, maybe move 01:30:525 (6,7,1) - to somewhere u like as zigzag/triangle pattern should b work
  6. interesting rhythm
idk if this mod is useful tho i suck w
goodluck
Kawashiro

Akitoshi wrote:

Kawashiro
  1. 00:56:691 (1,2,3) - 1/1 slider + circle for held sound from vocals? 1/2 triples looks kinda spammd from 00:56:079 (7,8) - since u using too much 1/2 rhythm xd same for 01:16:283 (1,2,3) - Hmm, im following vocal and drum. so it seems following both sounds correctly cuz the bass sound is in 00:56:691 (1,2) - here. btw i fould some problem at 00:55:773 (6) - here lol
  2. 00:58:528 (8) - also 1/2 slider + circle fits bettr here i guess - Ohhhh thanks to point this. here is two 1/2 slider like 01:18:120 (8,9) - here. my cute mistake :3
  3. those 3 stacks on kiais aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa u can unstack every 3rd object there alr but yehaj i know its ur style anyways w nice flow btw - Thanks mama <3

世界一可愛いにとりちゃん's Hard
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Topic Starter
Icekalt

Akitoshi wrote:

C00L sent me here

Easy

00:13:987 (1) - idk what's following here tbh :( i assume u followed the vocals on 00:13:069 (5) - so the next object should b started on 00:14:446 - from the vocal rhythm's logic, similar thing goes to 00:23:783 (1) - as well fixed it as requested
00:39:548 (3) - NC? I guess you following the measure but ye the calm part ended so i guess you need it i guess too ~
00:49:344 (1,2,3) - Since you used to followed the vocals how about using this rhythm? This can be also be more consistent with 00:54:548 changed here - good idea(1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3) - as well cuz u followed vocals thereee mmh - i dislike it here ~
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yh u have som potential thanks ^^

idk if this mod is useful tho i suck w same w
goodluck
Thanks for you mod and have a nice day :)
C00L

Akitoshi wrote:

C00L sent me here oWO

C00L
  1. 00:31:589 (4) - I don't think the stack would be great here as it has strong drum compared to 00:30:671 (2) - , consider to unstack this or just reverse the 00:30:977 (3) - nah since this section is rather less intese (drums, vocals etc.) I wanted to keep stacks there to underline that. That part is actually one of the parts of that section so woudn't really make sense tbf
  2. 00:39:242 (4) - unstack pls it has finishhh same reason as above
  3. 00:44:446 (1,2,3,4) - 00:47:048 (1,2) - those 1/2 sliders usage is kinda questionable as normal diff imo, 1/1 sliders with 1/2 beat gap plays more natural as low diff but idk it's just my taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (or u can just get the reference from 01:23:638 - for rhythm) reason why it wasnt the same as the one you referenced is cuz the vocals are sharper and repeat every 6/8 beats whilst other is kinda just like softer
  4. 01:09:242 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:691 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm fits more with vocals tbh, since their vocal rhythm is different from 01:13:834 (1,2,3,4) - I disagree tbh since the reason why this is like it is, is because of the 01:10:314 (3) - pitch changes at this, rest goes with vocals as well relating to the pitches and vocals as i see it. The rhythm you suggested is ok i guess but i prefer the tension my rhythm creates, especially here 01:09:854 (2,3) - , undelining all the 1/2's and pitch changes better imo.
  5. yh it's ok sik ko
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