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Takeshi Abo - Chloe-II -Perplexity-

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Imouto koko
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Imouto koko
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年8月6日 at 9:38:15

Artist: Takeshi Abo
Title: Chloe-II -Perplexity-
Source: メモリーズオフ6 ～T-wave～
Tags: 嘉神川 クロエ Kagamigawa Kuroe 後藤 邑子 Gotou Yuuko Memories Off 6 Oiso 5pb original soundtrack ost visual novel galgame avg
BPM: 83
Filesize: 5014kb
Play Time: 01:54
Difficulties Available:
  1. Oiso's Normal (1.66 stars, 133 notes)
  2. Orgel (2.28 stars, 195 notes)
Download: Takeshi Abo - Chloe-II -Perplexity-
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1st Mapset.
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~ （秋之回忆6：三角波澜）
Chloe-II -Perplexity-
原作中我最喜欢的一首BGM。

Diff:
Orgel by me Finished
Oiso's Normal by Oiso Finished
Last edited by Imouto koko , edited 34 times in total.
Karen
2,864 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
mod
2017-06-01 12:57 Karen: 00:03:327 (8,1) - 00:14:983 (1) - 
2017-06-01 12:57 Karen: made zenme dabuliao zhongwen
2017-06-01 13:00 Karen: 卧槽切个输入法把电脑都切死机了
2017-06-01 13:00 Imouto OuO: 。
2017-06-01 13:00 Imouto OuO: 摸摸你
2017-06-01 13:00 Karen: 这两个地方音乐一样的 节奏保持一致比较好
2017-06-01 13:00 Imouto OuO: 我听一下
2017-06-01 13:01 Imouto OuO: 这个 我感觉后面那个是1/16
2017-06-01 13:01 Karen: 我是说那个1/8
2017-06-01 13:01 Imouto OuO: 不知道是我听歪了还是什么。。这图的1/16我都不想跟
2017-06-01 13:01 Imouto OuO: 诶
2017-06-01 13:01 Imouto OuO: 00:14:983 (1) - 这里前面的呢
2017-06-01 13:01 Imouto OuO: 么
2017-06-01 13:01 Karen: 有一点歪
2017-06-01 13:02 Karen: 但是这是作曲的问题
2017-06-01 13:02 Karen: 理论上是要一样的
2017-06-01 13:02 Imouto OuO: 那我补个1/8吧
2017-06-01 13:02 Karen: 你可以把前面那个删了
2017-06-01 13:02 Imouto OuO: 噗
2017-06-01 13:02 Imouto OuO: 那也行
2017-06-01 13:02 Imouto OuO: 结尾也有一个 我也删了吧
2017-06-01 13:03 Karen: 00:20:917 - offset晚了吧
2017-06-01 13:03 Karen: 嗯
2017-06-01 13:04 Imouto OuO: 诶 仔细听了一下是有一点点晚
2017-06-01 13:04 Imouto OuO: 这里怎么改，在00:20:096 - 上插个红线么
2017-06-01 13:05 Karen: 00:51:226 (2,3,4) - 把这根提前啊
2017-06-01 13:05 Imouto OuO: 喔不对本来就有红线
2017-06-01 13:05 Karen: 虽然改这根后面都要改
2017-06-01 13:05 Imouto OuO: 嗯嗯好我之后重新修一下
2017-06-01 13:06 Imouto OuO: 后面应该整体调一下就好
2017-06-01 13:06 Imouto OuO: 00:51:226 (2,3,4) - 这个地方是什么问题诶
2017-06-01 13:07 Karen: 哦复制错了 
2017-06-01 13:07 Karen: 这个本来想说点啥
2017-06-01 13:07 Imouto OuO: ;w;
2017-06-01 13:07 Karen: 好像问题没那么大
2017-06-01 13:07 Imouto OuO: 唔
2017-06-01 13:07 Karen: 就是感觉flow有点不好
2017-06-01 13:07 Imouto OuO: 是有点
2017-06-01 13:08 Imouto OuO: 不太会改
2017-06-01 13:08 Karen: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8231946
2017-06-01 13:08 Karen: 圈圈和滑条弧度最好平滑一点
2017-06-01 13:08 Karen: 不然看起来好别扭 虽然打起来无所谓
2017-06-01 13:09 Imouto OuO: 好
2017-06-01 13:10 Karen: 别的没啥 都还可以
2017-06-01 13:11 Imouto OuO: 唔 那麻烦啦
2017-06-01 13:11 Imouto OuO: 顺带想问问这个要rank的话 大概要什么条件诶
2017-06-01 13:12 Imouto OuO: 先发一下thread吧）
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
[Normal]
  1. ar太高了，不要超过5，建议ar5od4或者ar4od3．hp跟着一起降，一般跟od一样就行
  2. 00:09:925 (2,3) - 微妙的擦边，要么就多碰点要么分开，现在这位置大概是最难看的
  3. 00:11:371 (4,1) - 这里还是用别那么弯的滑条比较好，直接往左走展开舒服．另外现在00:12:094 (1,2) - 这里ds不对，正好一起改了
  4. 00:23:855 (1,2) - 改了od之后的话这里不建议stack，时间有点近
  5. 00:40:481 (2,1) - 同第一条．这里就放下面顺着的位置比较好，
  6. 00:44:097 (1,2) - 这种视觉ds（这里就是滑条头到下一个note的距离）和实际ds严重不符，这样的排列不要在低难度用，容易误读
  7. 01:54:392 (5) - 低难度拒绝这种东西．其实结尾01:51:147 (1,2,3,4,5) - 直接放转盘比较好，这难度还没转盘呢
GL
Kashima
154 posts
Joined May 2014
Kashima
irc mod
2017-06-01 02:40 Kashima: 00:01:971 (4) - 跳的太大了 很突然 45换个位置 后面flow往下走
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 这个 就是要往上走的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 故意的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 还有 这跳不大了。。
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 83BPM的二分拍
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 因为节奏断开才这么下的 后面全是这样的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 喔 是音调断开
2017-06-01 02:42 Kashima: 这个跳不是bpm大不大的问题 是相对于你其他的排列来说 这里的突变不至于用到这么远距离的跳 再说曲的音阶也是往下走的
2017-06-01 02:42 Kashima: 个人觉得往下比较猴
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 好 待会改往下的
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 但是跳我还是要留着
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 00:20:917 (1,1) - 这俩滑条不好看
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 这俩是包着的
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 不这么下我不会拉了啊
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 我知道是包着
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: .
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 原来是不会拉
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 不然怎么拉 我不想换别的形状
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 三点的话这里包着比较配排列啊
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 还有哪有吐槽三点滑条不好看的。。
2017-06-01 02:45 Kashima: 是不好看..你这个弧度太过了 看起来就像一个圆角的长方形..
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 给人感觉太扁了
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 就2个滑条围成的区域太窄
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 00:58:997 - 这里少个音
2017-06-01 02:46 Imouto OuO: 。。没听出来
2017-06-01 02:46 Imouto OuO: 我再听听
Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika

Pata-Mon wrote:

[Normal]
  1. ar太高了，不要超过5，建议ar5od4或者ar4od3．hp跟着一起降，一般跟od一样就行 √ Finished
  2. 00:09:925 (2,3) - 微妙的擦边，要么就多碰点要么分开，现在这位置大概是最难看的 √ Finished
  3. 00:11:371 (4,1) - 这里还是用别那么弯的滑条比较好，直接往左走展开舒服．另外现在00:12:094 (1,2) - 这里ds不对，正好一起改了第一感觉让我往右下走了，移动感觉也挺舒服。后面ds改了
  4. 00:23:855 (1,2) - 改了od之后的话这里不建议stack，时间有点近没啥其他的地方想放，先不动了。
  5. 00:40:481 (2,1) - 同第一条．这里就放下面顺着的位置比较好，√ Finished
  6. 00:44:097 (1,2) - 这种视觉ds（这里就是滑条头到下一个note的距离）和实际ds严重不符，这样的排列不要在低难度用，容易误读其实是实际ds，视觉ds感觉好看点 :?:
  7. 01:54:392 (5) - 低难度拒绝这种东西．其实结尾01:51:147 (1,2,3,4,5) - 直接放转盘比较好，这难度还没转盘呢√ Finished
GL
顺便膜一下巴达兽
[Kamiya]
637 posts
Joined November 2012
[Kamiya]
[Orgel]

00:03:419 (1,2) - 这里和00:06:311 (1,2) - 这里间距一致嘛，所以00:14:985 (1,2) - 这里也一样，间距再调近点。像这种的话就应该想想统一一下间距，包括后面，使用2.0~2.2的间距距离都行。

00:59:178 (2) - 这个地方尾没音效所以感觉稍微有点怪。或者将00:58:816 (1) - 这个单点删了改成1/2滑条后面改成1/1的滑条。删掉3

00:57:732 (4,5,6) - 这里既然选择是间距变大 01:20:864 (4,5,6) - 那这里应该也一样。

01:51:926 (6,7) - 没包好

随便水摸的lwl
:) gl
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

[Kamiya] wrote:

[Orgel]

00:03:419 (1,2) - 这里和00:06:311 (1,2) - 这里间距一致嘛，所以00:14:985 (1,2) - 这里也一样，间距再调近点。像这种的话就应该想想统一一下间距，包括后面，使用2.0~2.2的间距距离都行。 改啦。

00:59:178 (2) - 这个地方尾没音效所以感觉稍微有点怪。或者将00:58:816 (1) - 这个单点删了改成1/2滑条后面改成1/1的滑条。删掉3 好评好评，改啦。

00:57:732 (4,5,6) - 这里既然选择是间距变大 01:20:864 (4,5,6) - 那这里应该也一样。 这里算是两种表现的方式吧，前者左右flow后者竖直向上。而且前面是第一次进入kiai，相对我觉得要区别对待一点，后面的kiai已经明显有向下降的趋势了。

01:51:926 (6,7) - 没包好 改啦。

随便水摸的lwl
:) gl
感谢;w; 摸摸四萌（跑
Hidden me
30 posts
Joined February 2017
Hidden me
Hello, Imouto OuO
I'm here to give mods as you requested

Contents: （中文）

[Oiso's Normal]1. AImod:
00:44:097 (1) - 这个物件的尾部没有对齐时间轴 -> 重新做一个
00:45:200 (2,3) - 距离过远（1.34x）
01:31:764 (2,3,4) - 距离过远（1.46x, 1.68x）-> 保持间距一致（相对于bpm）
*这里的距离都是相对于bpm而言的，在滑条速度固定的前提下，
相对距离相同，实际距离和bpm成正比（bpm以两个物件中的后者为准）

normal难度要严格遵守ds

2. My mods:
游玩下来感觉挺顺畅，节奏也没什么明显的问题，下面提出我发现的一些小问题：

00:01:250 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 连续6个单点对于新手或许有难度 -> 可以考虑把其中几个换成滑条
00:12:094 (1) - 出界 -> 调整下滑条位置，注意ds
00:14:262 (3) - 出界 -> 调整圆圈位置，注意ds
*编辑器中的网格外沿长宽比为4:3，摆放物件不要超出这个界限即可，后面相同问题不再赘述...
00:44:097 (1,2) - 对于normal玩家容易读错 -> 想办法调整一下？
00:47:195 (1,2,3) - 多个物件等间距放在一起，新手玩家容易读错
*虽说排列美观重要，毕竟这是normal难度，降低读图难度也是很重要的（给新手留条活路吧）
或许可以在控制难度的前提下兼顾美观
00:55:925 (1,3) - 83bpm的1/4滑条，normal难度中不推荐折返超过一次，新手玩家反应不过来
01:01:708 (1,3) - 前者滑条尾和后者只相隔1拍，normal中不建议遮挡，有读图障碍
01:07:491 (1) - 不建议折返超过一次，后面相同问题不再多说
01:10:382 (1,2) - （续上）感觉摆成这样不错（虽说节奏重音不同，或许可以参考，个人意见）
01:34:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 难度或许超过normal（和第一条相同）
01:51:926 (1) - 转盘中的滑条变速（inherited points里的slider velocity）意义不明（对于我，虽说不影响实际游玩）
*首尾呼应nice，首尾要改的话一起改（依旧是个人意见）

总体来说是一张nice map，细节处稍微注意下，还有难度控制下就更好了:D
Hope my mod helps~

[Orgel]00:28:924 (4) - 这个滑条尾可以放到前面那根二分线上，节奏和原曲吻合些，顺便把绿线提前（个人意见）
00:31:454 (3) - ctrl+g会更好？（读图上和感觉上都会更顺畅）
00:57:045 (2) - 这里音量可以降低一些吧（降到30%之类的），原曲节奏有些难以辨认
00:59:575 (2) - 这里有些出界，可以往里挪一些？（这样的话需要调整下flow）
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - 个人感觉排列有些奇怪，234原地三连就好（或者23换成短滑条？个人意见）
01:36:374 (7,1,2) - 时间间隔不同，间距一样容易读错，可以考虑把12往上移再调整下
比如这样？（我排列弱，轻喷）

只是个人意见...

总体感觉不错，本人能力有限，只能提供这些了↑
Hope it helps!

That's all I could help, and
Good luck! :D
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Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika
刚又看了一遍，感觉好像问题不大，水一下：

Orgel
00:15:527 (2,3) - 其实像这种曲子感觉顺着滑条的弧度延展这摆可能要好看一些，离远一点吧，前面的1,2差1/4，后面是1/2，结果间距一样。
00:27:288 (2,3) - 同上，这个3就可以向下面移一点点，再顺着滑条。
00:53:395 (2,3) - 这个会不会和前面比有点突兀。可以考虑吧前面的1 移远一些（大概
00:57:009 (2,3) - 同上
01:42:473 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个滑条和曲子前面的四个滑条（00:09:202 (1,2,3,4) ）间距差不多可能会好一些，毕竟曲子旋律基本上是一样的。

曲子真好听~
papapa213
152 posts
Joined November 2014
papapa213
萌新学摸
羡慕妹妹，要飞

[normal]
00:35:421 (1) - ctrl+G一下表现力可能会更强一点
00:41:204 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得这四个音这样会好一些？一个弧感觉没办法突出这四个音，或者想想别的摆法
SPOILER
00:49:058 (3) - 位置有点怪？还不如往下放放flow还舒服，看着还宽敞
01:23:395 (4,1) - 套用某妹妹的话说……不如包一包？

[orgel]
00:18:608 (1,2,3) - 音量渐小这里间距突然变大了，感觉怪怪
00:57:732 (4,5,6,1) - @锐角萌，我觉得这样flow舒服些(
SPOILER
01:16:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - 不如摆成一个弧
01:30:625 (1) - 这里逆着拉表现力可能会更强一些
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

papapa213 wrote:

萌新学摸
羡慕妹妹，要飞

[orgel]
00:18:608 (1,2,3) - 音量渐小这里间距突然变大了，感觉怪怪 说得好，改了。
00:57:732 (4,5,6,1) - @锐角萌，我觉得这样flow舒服些( 用了flow，排列改了下。
SPOILER
01:16:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - 不如摆成一个弧 好，改了。
01:30:625 (1) - 这里逆着拉表现力可能会更强一些 想了想，虽然ctrl+g之后有点flow不顺，但是先改了。
感谢mod，你也加油;w;
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Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Oiso wrote:

刚又看了一遍，感觉好像问题不大，水一下：

Orgel
00:15:527 (2,3) - 其实像这种曲子感觉顺着滑条的弧度延展这摆可能要好看一些，离远一点吧，前面的1,2差1/4，后面是1/2，结果间距一样。 是喔，我这边疏忽了，改了。
00:27:288 (2,3) - 同上，这个3就可以向下面移一点点，再顺着滑条。 好，改了。
00:53:395 (2,3) - 这个会不会和前面比有点突兀。可以考虑吧前面的1 移远一些（大概 这个没想法放哪里了……而且也符合实际ds，就这样吧。）
00:57:009 (2,3) - 同上 也是没地方放。
01:42:473 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个滑条和曲子前面的四个滑条（00:09:202 (1,2,3,4) ）间距差不多可能会好一些，毕竟曲子旋律基本上是一样的。 这个我再想想，这里排列的确有点僵。


曲子真好听~
感谢;w; 又送gd又送摸的
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Karen
2,864 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
找点英文的 pending一星期再看吧
Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika

84461810 wrote:

Hello, Imouto OuO
I'm here to give mods as you requested

Contents: （中文）

Oiso's Normal
1. AImod:
00:44:097 (1) - 这个物件的尾部没有对齐时间轴 -> 重新做一个
00:45:200 (2,3) - 距离过远（1.34x）
01:31:764 (2,3,4) - 距离过远（1.46x, 1.68x）-> 保持间距一致（相对于bpm）
*这里的距离都是相对于bpm而言的，在滑条速度固定的前提下，
相对距离相同，实际距离和bpm成正比（bpm以两个物件中的后者为准）

normal难度要严格遵守ds

2. My mods:
游玩下来感觉挺顺畅，节奏也没什么明显的问题，下面提出我发现的一些小问题：

00:01:250 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 连续6个单点对于新手或许有难度 -> 可以考虑把其中几个换成滑条
00:12:094 (1) - 出界 -> 调整下滑条位置，注意ds
00:14:262 (3) - 出界 -> 调整圆圈位置，注意ds
*编辑器中的网格外沿长宽比为4:3，摆放物件不要超出这个界限即可，后面相同问题不再赘述...
00:44:097 (1,2) - 对于normal玩家容易读错 -> 想办法调整一下？
00:47:195 (1,2,3) - 多个物件等间距放在一起，新手玩家容易读错
*虽说排列美观重要，毕竟这是normal难度，降低读图难度也是很重要的（给新手留条活路吧）
或许可以在控制难度的前提下兼顾美观
00:55:925 (1,3) - 83bpm的1/4滑条，normal难度中不推荐折返超过一次，新手玩家反应不过来
01:01:708 (1,3) - 前者滑条尾和后者只相隔1拍，normal中不建议遮挡，有读图障碍
01:07:491 (1) - 不建议折返超过一次，后面相同问题不再多说
01:10:382 (1,2) - （续上）感觉摆成这样不错（虽说节奏重音不同，或许可以参考，个人意见）
01:34:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 难度或许超过normal（和第一条相同）
01:51:926 (1) - 转盘中的滑条变速（inherited points里的slider velocity）意义不明（对于我，虽说不影响实际游玩）
*首尾呼应nice，首尾要改的话一起改（依旧是个人意见）

总体来说是一张nice map，细节处稍微注意下，还有难度控制下就更好了:D
Hope my mod helps~

* The mod of the other diff is in progress
十分宝贵的建议，已经改好
All finished! Thanks for moding!
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papapa213 wrote:

[normal]
00:35:421 (1) - ctrl+G一下表现力可能会更强一点 按DS走了
00:41:204 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得这四个音这样会好一些？一个弧感觉没办法突出这四个音，或者想想别的摆法 想过，但是你这样子我觉得也不太舒服，就不动了。
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00:49:058 (3) - 位置有点怪？还不如往下放放flow还舒服，看着还宽敞 √ Finished
01:23:395 (4,1) - 套用某妹妹的话说……不如包一包？ 不包了吧，短粗
Thanks for moding!
Imouto koko
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Topic Starter
Imouto koko

84461810 wrote:

[Orgel]00:28:924 (4) - 这个滑条尾可以放到前面那根二分线上，节奏和原曲吻合些，顺便把绿线提前（个人意见） 试了一下，节奏区别不大，但是排列要重排，4、5离得太近了，没地方放了就先这样吧。
00:31:454 (3) - ctrl+g会更好？（读图上和感觉上都会更顺畅） 算是个逆flow来顺后面的，上升了以便于后面下降的曲调。
00:57:045 (2) - 这里音量可以降低一些吧（降到30%之类的），原曲节奏有些难以辨认 好，稍微修了一下。
00:59:575 (2) - 这里有些出界，可以往里挪一些？（这样的话需要调整下flow） x=0 算是故意顶边了。
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - 个人感觉排列有些奇怪，234原地三连就好（或者23换成短滑条？个人意见） 这里是有点不那么顺，但是为了全曲四分拍统一还是不想改原地，短滑个人比较讨厌在低难度出现，之后看看有没有更好的选择吧。
01:36:374 (7,1,2) - 时间间隔不同，间距一样容易读错，可以考虑把12往上移再调整下 有道理，不过放上面太挤了，换了一种摆法。
比如这样？（我排列弱，轻喷）

只是个人意见...
感谢mod 提的建议都很有用;w;
ikaNyai
75 posts
Joined September 2015
ikaNyai
i go by how I feel is improveable when playing ;w; sorry!!
also please dont take it seriously , it just my small own opinion

from m4m

(´∩ω∩｀)click me
[Orgel]

  • 00:31:454 (3) - i think is better to make it in to single note .. hmm
    00:58:491 (6) - make it in to triangle shape with 00:57:768 (4,5) -
    01:00:659 (3) - D: move it up abit its dropping out to atomsphere (<- if you did what i said then you should replace 01:00:659 (3,4,5) - maybe smth like * this ? also 01:02:828 (7) - )
    01:03:551 (9) - 480143 n2.12 (<- if you did what i said ->01:04:635 (2) - move it bit down )
    01:06:081 (5) - end toward 01:05:720 (4) -
    01:09:334 (4) - alittle bit right (?445 350)
    01:14:394 (2,3,4) - in to *this maybe ?
    01:20:900 (4,5) - move a bit up (01:21:623 (6) - move it a bit right^ <- if you did what i said you should change following note too as you know(;w;)
    01:29:937 (3) - maybe is better with 115 218 ?
    01:42:518 (1) - end toward 01:42:156 (4) -
    01:43:963 (3) - n1.34
nothing really need to change at all for me ... really goodjob( ﾟｰﾟ)( ｡ｗ｡)ｂ and goodluck !
Imouto koko
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Topic Starter
Imouto koko

ikaNyai wrote:

(´∩ω∩｀)click me
[Orgel]

  • 00:31:454 (3) - i think is better to make it in to single note .. hmm it has a drum at 00:31:815 - ,so i think silder here maybe better?
    00:58:491 (6) - make it in to triangle shape with 00:57:768 (4,5) - the ds between 00:58:129 (5,6) - is bigger than 4,5. But still change the location of 00:58:491 (6) -
    01:00:659 (3) - D: move it up abit its dropping out to atomsphere (<- if you did what i said then you should replace 01:00:659 (3,4,5) - maybe smth like * this ? also 01:02:828 (7) - ) following the music here maybe better?(the music here is going up
    01:03:551 (9) - 480143 n2.12 (<- if you did what i said ->01:04:635 (2) - move it bit down ) fixed.
    01:06:081 (5) - end toward 01:05:720 (4) - fixed.
    01:09:334 (4) - alittle bit right (?445 350) it made by silder so i think it is ok :)
    01:14:394 (2,3,4) - in to *this maybe ? umm...it is hard to fix the following notes so i need consider how to make a good flow.
    01:20:900 (4,5) - move a bit up (01:21:623 (6) - move it a bit right^ <- if you did what i said you should change following note too as you know(;w;) it also made by silder, but still thanks for your care.
    01:29:937 (3) - maybe is better with 115 218 ? move the 3,4 note.
    01:42:518 (1) - end toward 01:42:156 (4) - fixed.
    01:43:963 (3) - n1.34 fixed.
nothing really need to change at all for me ... really goodjob( ﾟｰﾟ)( ｡ｗ｡)ｂ and goodluck !
this mod is helpful! thanks for mod :)
Fushimi Rio
Fushimi Rio
From request
[Orgel]
00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:03:441 (1,2) - it's not easy to read these pattern correctly in the beginning of the map. for latter parts like 00:26:755 (1,2) - this kind of pattern are easier to read because of song intensity. at least change this two to some regular spacing please
00:23:856 (2) - nc
00:36:062 - add a note here?
00:49:817 (5,1) - this is kind of too far, ctrl+g?
00:55:961 (1,2,3) - and too close
01:31:809 (2,3) - use jumps here is better than between 12 imo. move 2 to 1's blanket position?

[Normal]
00:57:406 (3,1) - too close
01:51:951 (1) - clap sounds better than whistle
Imouto koko
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Imouto koko

imoutosan wrote:

From request
[Orgel]
00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:03:441 (1,2) - it's not easy to read these pattern correctly in the beginning of the map. for latter parts like 00:26:755 (1,2) - this kind of pattern are easier to read because of song intensity. at least change this two to some regular spacing please fixed.
00:23:856 (2) - nc fixed.
00:36:062 - add a note here? hmm..maybe it is harder than other pattern but, just try first. XD
00:49:817 (5,1) - this is kind of too far, ctrl+g? fixed.
00:55:961 (1,2,3) - and too close chanced the distance.
01:31:809 (2,3) - use jumps here is better than between 12 imo. move 2 to 1's blanket position? move the 1 to make the jump between 2,3.
very helpful! thanks for modding. :)
Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika

imoutosan wrote:

From request

[Normal]
00:57:406 (3,1) - too close FIXED √
01:51:951 (1) - clap sounds better than whistle FIXED √
Thanks for your modding very much! :)
Shad0w1and
1,586 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于
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当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) -
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐
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00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap
整体问题太大，曲子也感觉不适合作图，硬要做图对麻婆的基本功也要求太高，最好放个一年等有经验再说。

[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) -
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上
SPOILER
00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1
SPOILER
00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改
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00:59:214 -
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01:02:467 -
SPOILER
01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
01:27:045 -
SPOILER
01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Shad0w1and wrote:

[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线 发现了，改timing的时候忘加了，补了。
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里也没太好的想法，感觉曲风适合这样，个人理解吧orz
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于 想了想统一了一下全曲的四分拍滑条间距，不打算overlap了。
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当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) - 唔有道理，不过排列已经很难动了……以后注意。
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好 好的，修了一下。
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样 嗯，全曲统一了。
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住 这里中间那个音前面也不打算跟，就不改了吧。
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐 这方面不是很懂……目前来看几种改法版面都怪怪的，先放着看看有没有人提。
SPOILER
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00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2 好几个人提过了，改了。
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用 果然被吐槽了，改了，间距也统一了。
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap 同上，统一了。
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap 这个没听懂……开25%听了好多遍感觉是准的1/4。
感谢mod，帮助很大 :)
Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika

Shad0w1and wrote:

[个人意见]
[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) - 这个我觉得往下走好一些，不改了
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看 Fixed √
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
Fixed √
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:59:214 -
SPOILER
Fixed √
01:02:467 -
SPOILER
这个先不改了，这样感觉没啥问题
01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改 Fixed √
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止 Fixed √
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
Fixed √
01:27:045 -
SPOILER
这个之间应该是有音，不改了
01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
Fixed √
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多

Thanks for your modding very much!
Karen
2,864 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag
Instrumental是genre不用加tag
搞个combo color
弄个标准size的bg？

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样
01:07:527 (4) - nc？
01:19:093 (4) - nc？


Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap
Imouto koko
95 posts
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Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Karen wrote:

no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound 找了个14年的秋2rank版https://osu.ppy.sh/s/142953看了一下artist是Abo Takeshi，那先不改了。Metadata request也发啦等check好惹。
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag 去掉了。
Instrumental是genre不用加tag 也去掉了。
搞个combo color 好啊。
弄个标准size的bg？ 弄好啦。

Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样 改了。
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap 修好了。
感谢mod :) 考虑要不要做个皮肤，要是明天没收到Metadata request就正好做一个出来看看效果。咕了，做的皮肤感觉留到MO6OP比较好。
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Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
294 posts
Joined January 2017
Firika

Karen wrote:

no kd

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来 改好了 √
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好 改好了 √
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致 改好了 √
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好 改好了 √
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点 这个节奏应该没什么问题，换了之后转折有点体现不出来，感觉更别扭。。 先不改了
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难 改好了 √
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条 改好了 √
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条 改好了 √
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样 改好了 √
01:07:527 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √
01:19:093 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √
非常感谢您的建议
Imouto koko
95 posts
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Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Karen wrote:

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound

IamKwaN wrote:

Unicode Title: Chloe-II -Perplexity-
Unicode Artist: 阿保 剛
Romanised Artist: Takeshi Abo
Source: メモリーズオフ6 ～T-wave～

References:
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 634437.jpg
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 636207.jpg
http://memoriesoff.jp/t-wave/index.html
http://www.ac.auone-net.jp/~valsound/about.html
已经按照Metadata Request的回复改好 :)
Karen
2,864 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
title有chloe就把tag里的去掉
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Karen wrote:

title有chloe就把tag里的去掉
去掉啦/.\
Karen
2,864 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
changed tick rate to 1 for both diffs and removed a slidertick hitsound, bubbled
papapa213
152 posts
Joined November 2014
papapa213
我的妈啊，泡了，要肥了
妹妹带我啊Orz
Shima Rin
1,304 posts
Joined March 2015
Shima Rin
这。。这么恐怖的 :o

肝败吓疯
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Tofu1222 wrote:

这。。这么恐怖的 :o

肝败吓疯
;w;
哪……哪里恐怖了……才没有！OuO
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,846 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.
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ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical
SPOILER
01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?
SPOILER
01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?

normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted :(
00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either
Firika
Nomination Assessment Team
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Firika

Kibbleru wrote:

normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted :( Fixed √ :)
00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Fixed it and also Fixed 01:45:409 (1,2) √
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol just bad habit lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either yeah,Fixed it now √
Thanks for your modding very much! :)
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Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Kibbleru wrote:

orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.
SPOILER
ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical
SPOILER
01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?
SPOILER
01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?
All fixed and adjusted the overlap of each 1/4 distance. Hope it is better :)
Thx a lot for very useful mod!
Mafumafu
Nomination Assessment Team
3,372 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.
Imouto koko
95 posts
Joined January 2016
Topic Starter
Imouto koko

Regraz wrote:

If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.
I am grateful to you for the ticket :D
Karen
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Karen
kibb mvp
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
its been bubbled for long enough!
buhei
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buhei
gratz
Nao Tomori
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Nao Tomori
OuO

gratz
Imouto koko
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Imouto koko

Kibbleru wrote:

its been bubbled for long enough!
I am so excited that do not know what to speak. Thx a lot :)
09kami
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09kami

Karen wrote:

kibb mvp
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru

Karen wrote:

kibb mvp
yaca mvp
KaedekaShizuru
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KaedekaShizuru
恭喜
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