Lite Show Magic - TRICKL4SH 220 · forum

Regou

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-09-16T13:41:38+00:00

-Faded- wrote:
Hey, from my queue!

[E4SY]
00:40:821 (2,1) - I can notice a very slight overlap with the track of (1) and the head of (2). It's very minor, but it wouldn't be too hard to change either. fixed
01:29:639 (1) - This slider is overlapped rather heavily by the default skin's healthbar, which is poor presentation and it could pose as a reading issue for new players, so I would move it down a bit. alright
01:44:912 (1,2) - Double check the slider trail on these two notes. If you line then up, then you'll notice that they're not entirely parallel. It's minor, but it's easier to notice considering that it's an easy difficulty.fixed
01:49:275 (1) - This slider ignores a series of very strong beats, which doesn't represent the music well. I would try a shape like this. Here, each red anchor is on a strong sound within the music, so I think it would suit the music better. ok
[H4RD]
00:32:912 (1,1,1,1) - Not a fan of all the NCs here. Having all the sliders facing the same direction and having equal spacing emphasis is fine for this part of the song, you don't need to emphasise it more with NCs because it's inconsistent (this kind of comboing isn't seen anywhere else in the diff) and it'll make the HP slightly more strict than it needs to be. obviously I did it for aesthetics reason (tho it still kinda make sense as the beat is super strong here). I'll keep this one for now.
01:37:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern will be very hard to read because the order of the notes is different to the pattern introduced at 00:53:775 (1,2,3,4) - , meaning that players will probably botch the order by hitting (4) early. The stack and back-and-forth definitely doesn't help either. An easy fix would be to ctrl+g (3,4), which will ease readability greatly. overlapping (4) and (5) doesn't make pretty much sense to me here as it breaks the flow while it's nowhere supported by the music imo. I added a NC here instead.
[TERROR]
Shouldn't the difficulty name be "T3RR0R"? You mentioned the difficulty name like this in the difficulty description so I'm not too sure whether or not this inconsistency is intentional. I tried to apply E=3 and O=0 to other diffnames and it looks very weird so I just keep the diffname as "TERROR".
01:01:275 (1,2) - I am not fond of this rhythm because the music easily justifies having a hold sound, but instead you chose to use two circles, with the latter being on a really weak sound. A rhythm I would suggest would be to replace (1) with a 1/2 slider and delete (2), which would fit the music better because it continues mapping to the main melody without switching to some obscure instrument in the background, making it more faithful to the music that way. sound is even weaker on 01:01:412 - while I hear a relatively stronger snap on 01:01:548 (2) - so I think I would prefer keeping as it is right now.
Nice map, I like the slider art in Terror and the general theme of the mapset. Good luck with this ~ Thanks! :3

Changed ultra's diff name and snapped notes for LCFC as well (osu update is always creating more bugs gg)

Gloria Guard

2,274 posts

Joined May 2011

Gloria Guard 2017-09-17T01:01:22+00:00

-Faded- wrote:
Hey, from my queue!

[G.G's 4DV4NCED]
00:08:912 (1,2) - I'm not too big on these overlapping blankets, imo they don't look nice and if the player uses transparent/translucent hitcircles then it's really easy to see flaws in the blanket when they are this close together (for me, it looks like this). While it might not be too much of an issue for these using the default skin, I think you should still take this into account and change them. You've only done this three times in the beginning of the map, so it'll also be more consistent pattern wise. Okay. i will the other move to patterns.
00:54:185 (2) - You should make this a 1/1 non-repeating slider. This is to put more emphasis on the new sound introduced in the music. Also, because the music is different here my suggestion would help the map express this fact by making the sliders different as well. Same suggestion applies for 01:02:912 (2) - . it's not. because 00:54:312 - 00:54:457 this point to hear electrionic piano sounds.

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toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-09-17T05:53:32+00:00

well theres a shit ton of mods so i'd rather not write a reply for all of them, but i fixed a lot. pm if you want to know why i mapped it like i did :d
thanks! https://0paste.com/15343.txt

Affirmation

2,548 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-10-10T08:20:48+00:00

-Faded- wrote:
[NeoSL'S NORM4L]
00:32:912 (1,2) - This part of the song could be expressed with identical cursor movements to go with the repetitiveness of the music here. To do this, I would either have two straight sliders going down in the same direction, or I would curve (2) so that the cursor forms a circle whilst moving. This part of the song is quite prominent and noticeable, so I definitely don't think it should be ignored.I think this pattern looks not bad.
01:13:003 You should add a note here, as it's a bit off-putting to skip a beat in this important song build-up. It's also a bit inconsistent, as a similar sound is emphasised at 01:14:094 (3) - and 01:17:094 (2) - .

Thanks

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MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-02T21:07:27+00:00

Hello, i'm here to mod.

[TERROR]
Map looks sweet, however, similar to my previous mod on one of your maps, it also has a few inconsistencies relating to difficulty of similar parts in the song too large for me to look over. Adding to that there could be some emphasis issues and some seemingly way too uncomfy patterns.

00:21:321 (5,1) - I admit that the movement feels nice here, but the jump is cross screen, while at it, it seems like it is the biggest one in the map lol. It's usage on a not so important note is what is disturbing me a bit. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9452027 By placing it similar to this the jump will have the same movement, except it now makes sense with the song by not being cross screen. Of course further pattern adjustment is up to you.
00:26:912 (1,2,1,2) - Another example of where the jumps feel fairly nice, but comparing it to any other part in the map on the same sounds, it is way too different and harder to land. 00:29:094 (1,2,3) - This is an example where you went 1/4 sliders and less spacing for some reason on same sounds. 00:31:412 (2,3) - An example on where you made a very passive pattern on the same sounds you did much more difficult patterning. Generally my advise is to find a hotspot on what patterning difficulty is the best for all those similar sounds in the song I mentioned and map all according to that difficulty. When going freely with patterning it is always advised to keep the difficulty of them similar, not doing that doesn't feel like it correlates to the song. If you intend on redoing the patterns, keep in mind that they should be easier than 00:32:912 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - since it is the most intense part of the section, and deserves its own difficulty to be higher than the other examples.
00:46:821 (1,2,1) - Dunno how much you care about movement/flow on not so hard parts but these angles are what players generally dislike. This pattern 00:59:912 (1,2,1) - has a sharp jump to (1) which other's of the same sound don't have, and should be reworked in correlation the others. The others seem to all have those wide angles, just in case you want to please some players you might consider doing sharp jumps ;p. I don't recall anyone hating sharp jumps except extreme pp map haters, but this ain't a pp map.
00:50:639 (2,1) - Comparing this jump to any counterpart you could see that it much larger and adding to that a bit uncomfortable. The inconsistency is too large, and should be adjusted in correlation to other patterns like 00:46:275 (2,1,2,3) - or 00:55:003 (2,1,2,3) -
00:59:094 (1,2) - Hmm doesn't look appealing because the overlap is inconsistent (the blanket or w/e), not perfect, and generally overlapping whole slider with a really low amount where their lines collide is generally consider bad looking idk.
01:18:935 (1,2,1,2,1) - The patterning here is way too unconventional. The player is forced to break their momentum many times while being forced after that to move extremely fast on the sliders. Generally for extremely fast SV's you should most usually consider the flow to be circular or linear, especially if the spacing between the sliders is big. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9452185 in my example I did some more pleasant flow. When you're about to go fast, it is usually done with a previous momentum, not with one artificially made. Today 2 testplays, players gave up on following the sliders fully(3digits).
01:23:912 (1,2,3) - I'm sorry but there don't seem to be any intense sounds on all of these 3 notes (just 2), so a very spaced triangle doesn't correlate to the song in any way I can understand.
01:30:185 (1,2,1,2) - This pattern reminds of a very usual pattern where a circle next to two kicksliders is placed really close to them. However in this case, the two circles are ctrl+g'd and is too much against usual mapping conventions for this pattern to be likeable lol. Generally, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9454454 by doing something like this it should be much more enjoyable to play, in its current state the movement feels too artificial and hard. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9454462 This also fits probably even better, but you'll have to readjust the subsequent patterns a bit more.
01:36:185 (1,2,3) - The composer imo seems to have intended a reducement in intensity here, since other than the rhythm not being that fast anymore, the background noise is tuned down. Putting a little stop to the intensity should, other than fit the song better, make further patterns that much enjoyable. I advise SV of 1.5x to 2x.

[Aven4]
On this difficulty I am generally a bit against a few rhythm choices. At times choices between going circles or sliders seems arbitrarily done without much relation to the song. It looked like you were going for patterning ideas in mind, dismissing the song as nothing is happening differently on several occasions.

00:18:185 (3,1,2) - First comparison that comes to mind is this. The song has constant synth sound on the red tick like 00:18:048 - and 00:18:594 - , but there are exceptions in the song, when the red tick 00:18:321 - has an additional vocal. Generally you'd want to acute some more distinct sounds in a section in order to make a better relation to the song. By actively mapping most vocals on red ticks like 00:18:321 - 00:18:866 - 00:19:412 - you will differentiate them from the other red ticks that have the constant synth going meaning it will better relate to the song. Now going back to the example, in order to understand better what I mean is to turn 00:18:185 (3) - into two circles, resulting in the red tick vocal being mapped, and change 00:18:457 (1) - into a slider, since the red tick is more fitting to be a sliderend because it has nothing important to it. 00:23:094 (1,1) - Some more examples of where you could make the sliderend actively mapped. Of course if you agree, this section might need a remap..
00:19:821 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing on these seems to be too large in comparison to the rest of the section since its in 1/4. 00:24:185 (1,2,3,4,5) - especially goes for this one, the spacing is bigger than the default choice of 1/2 spacing on the section.
00:46:275 (2,3) - In the rest of the section you tend to use bigger jumps and not so direct flow for this particular pattern where a 1/4 slider goes into a 1/2 one.
01:03:594 (2) - Comparing it to 01:04:139 (5) - it is fairly quiet and doesn't contain the deep bass + synth that that the other one has. Yet it is mapped identically. Ideally you'll want to make the weaker note a sliderend or give it lower spacing.
01:04:548 (1,2,3) - The vocals going faster compared to the previous pattern in this section suggests that the map should complement that with more circles and harder difficulty. By making all of these into circles every red tick with vocals will be filled, which is the way to go imo since it will be more intense to better follow the intensity of the song.
01:05:094 (3,5) - The synth (guitar?!?) notes appearing here are also fast going in 1/2 intervals, yet in the map it is all filled up with sliders without any particular change in the map to complement those additional sounds. Ideally if you follow my previous suggestions, and if you decide on turning these into circles, they should be differentiated as they're a different sound layer, so doing stacks or low spacing on these sounds would be the way to go.
01:05:912 (4,5) - Don't understand at all why this jump is large compared to anything else in the section.
01:07:821 - 01:10:003 - This interval contains similarly mapped notes, so all suggestions that I've said on this section are meant for this too.
01:10:139 (2,3,4,5) - Uhm them having different spacing emphasis than 01:05:639 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't seem to make sense at all when they're identical sounds.
01:12:185 (1,2,3) - Another example where a random note that isn't vocals or any particular synth / drum on the red tick is mapped same like one that has more intensity in the song to it 01:12:866 (5) - .
01:13:275 (1,2,3) - Similar issue I have pointed out recently where the vocals are going faster but the rhythm in the map is slowing down with slider usage.
01:14:094 (5,6) - Giving such huge notice to this particular synth sound makes me further put into question your dismissing of it on previous patterns like 01:09:730 (5) - .
01:24:185 (1) - Okay so let's try to analyze this. Let's say that the scream HZ is about 255 since its human maximumim... Calculating on this bpm 32 notes on 1/8 will happen in 1 second. 1/16 is 64, 1/32 is 128, 1/64 is 256. So that means in order to make this fit the song you'll have to multiply the bpm by 4x and snap on 1/16. Good luck on that. Tldr it's a good idea to use a slider or a spinner instead since following vocal pitch in HZ is not how much osu! has developed yet.
01:25:685 (3,4,5,6) - Like I've mentioned 00:46:275 (2,3)
Okay let me try to rationalize on why the spacing is a bit overspaced in the chorus. 00:49:139 (8,1) - 01:28:411 (8,1) - browsing the map a bit, I've found these as examples of drum emphasis on a note after a circle. This is a single note emphasis, therefore it is generally more acceptable to be big. While in this section, every jump is bigger than that emphasis even though its like all jumps. So by comparing a bit, I think that I've found the most acceptable spacing for the jump section https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9455107 , that way it would make more sense with the rest of the map. However it gets a little more problematic 01:35:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - when you increase the intensity of the map, even though the song doesn't seem to have any louder 1/2 or a pitch increasing in the background. The spacing becomes incomparable to the rest on this spacing distance.
01:39:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Another argument that may compel you to not increase of spacing in the first part of the kiai is that this, what I linked, has no increasment in spacing compared to its counterpart in the first part.
01:39:935 - pretty sure the 3stack should be here and not 01:39:798 (4) -

Depending on the replies and results of my mod on these two maps, I will consider going for nomination, will however checkback on my own accord. Also Toybot difficulty also seems like it has some rhythm issues, but as I said, I'll be first awaiting replies. Checked the others diffs, and there doesn't seem anything of much significance as these two posts.

Regou

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Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-03T06:08:40+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Hello, i'm here to mod.

[TERROR]
Map looks sweet, however, similar to my previous mod on one of your maps, it also has a few inconsistencies relating to difficulty of similar parts in the song too large for me to look over. Adding to that there could be some emphasis issues and some seemingly way too uncomfy patterns.
00:21:321 (5,1) - I admit that the movement feels nice here, but the jump is cross screen, while at it, it seems like it is the biggest one in the map lol. It's usage on a not so important note is what is disturbing me a bit. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9452027 By placing it similar to this the jump will have the same movement, except it now makes sense with the song by not being cross screen. Of course further pattern adjustment is up to you.
Nerfed the spacing by a lot should be better now lol

00:26:912 (1,2,1,2) - Another example of where the jumps feel fairly nice, but comparing it to any other part in the map on the same sounds, it is way too different and harder to land. 00:29:094 (1,2,3) - This is an example where you went 1/4 sliders and less spacing for some reason on same sounds. 00:31:412 (2,3) - An example on where you made a very passive pattern on the same sounds you did much more difficult patterning. Generally my advise is to find a hotspot on what patterning difficulty is the best for all those similar sounds in the song I mentioned and map all according to that difficulty. When going freely with patterning it is always advised to keep the difficulty of them similar, not doing that doesn't feel like it correlates to the song. If you intend on redoing the patterns, keep in mind that they should be easier than 00:32:912 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - since it is the most intense part of the section, and deserves its own difficulty to be higher than the other examples.
I mainly want to focus on vocal so I'll keep this pattern, though, I nerfed the spacing here as well.

00:46:821 (1,2,1) - Dunno how much you care about movement/flow on not so hard parts but these angles are what players generally dislike. This pattern 00:59:912 (1,2,1) - has a sharp jump to (1) which other's of the same sound don't have, and should be reworked in correlation the others. The others seem to all have those wide angles, just in case you want to please some players you might consider doing sharp jumps ;p. I don't recall anyone hating sharp jumps except extreme pp map haters, but this ain't a pp map.
I ctrl+g ed the second slider now the pattern should give a comfortable wide angle flow now

00:50:639 (2,1) - Comparing this jump to any counterpart you could see that it much larger and adding to that a bit uncomfortable. The inconsistency is too large, and should be adjusted in correlation to other patterns like 00:46:275 (2,1,2,3) - or 00:55:003 (2,1,2,3) -
they now have similar spacing :3

00:59:094 (1,2) - Hmm doesn't look appealing because the overlap is inconsistent (the blanket or w/e), not perfect, and generally overlapping whole slider with a really low amount where their lines collide is generally consider bad looking idk.
I increased the overlapping here should look better now

01:18:935 (1,2,1,2,1) - The patterning here is way too unconventional. The player is forced to break their momentum many times while being forced after that to move extremely fast on the sliders. Generally for extremely fast SV's you should most usually consider the flow to be circular or linear, especially if the spacing between the sliders is big. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9452185 in my example I did some more pleasant flow. When you're about to go fast, it is usually done with a previous momentum, not with one artificially made. Today 2 testplays, players gave up on following the sliders fully(3digits).
I think the vocal here would kind of support artificial momentum as vocal is repeating here. I understand this pattern is very tricky especially for tablet players, but personally I still prefer current pattern as the movement required would be drastic if I making more changes in jump angle here it would be less straight forward (change of angle is way too sudden so players, at least for me, will not to able to sense it immediately). It's very hard to follow the slider shape completely under high SV but you'd still be able to get a 300 here by making a more linear movement.

01:23:912 (1,2,3) - I'm sorry but there don't seem to be any intense sounds on all of these 3 notes (just 2), so a very spaced triangle doesn't correlate to the song in any way I can understand.
I did that to emphasize the screaming at (3) jumps at here will build up the momentum to emphasize (3).

01:30:185 (1,2,1,2) - This pattern reminds of a very usual pattern where a circle next to two kicksliders is placed really close to them. However in this case, the two circles are ctrl+g'd and is too much against usual mapping conventions for this pattern to be likeable lol. Generally, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9454454 by doing something like this it should be much more enjoyable to play, in its current state the movement feels too artificial and hard. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9454462 This also fits probably even better, but you'll have to readjust the subsequent patterns a bit more.
sure!

01:36:185 (1,2,3) - The composer imo seems to have intended a reducement in intensity here, since other than the rhythm not being that fast anymore, the background noise is tuned down. Putting a little stop to the intensity should, other than fit the song better, make further patterns that much enjoyable. I advise SV of 1.5x to 2x. Bass still give very strong impact here so I'd prefer using high SV. Yet, I reduced the SV to 2.5x so as to make the pattern more comfortable to play.
Depending on the replies and results of my mod on these two maps, I will consider going for nomination, will however checkback on my own accord. Also Toybot difficulty also seems like it has some rhythm issues, but as I said, I'll be first awaiting replies. Checked the others diffs, and there doesn't seem anything of much significance as these two posts.

Thanks for modding!!

DeRandom Otaku

2,142 posts

Joined November 2014

DeRandom Otaku 2017-11-04T10:53:00+00:00

Finally a proper map for this song tbh
[General]

http://puu.sh/ydR4c/29c6ec3ed8.png

[Easy]

00:50:094 - 00:58:821 - 01:29:366 - Try adding a circle on these spots or atleast extend the previous sliders to blue ticks. The rhythm will still be fine and won't get too dense. Adding a circle would really make more sense since the sound on beats like 00:58:003 - continuous till 00:58:821 -

[NeoSL]

00:47:639 (3) - This is the only spot where you did a 1/2 repeat slider while at other places like 00:52:003 (3) - these got a 1/1 slider only so yea maybe change 00:47:639 (3) - to a 1/1 as well, Firstly for consistency ,secondly because 1/2 sounds pretty unnecessary

[G.G]

00:52:548 (1) - 1/2 is extremely unnecessary here. just try to do a 1/1 slider instead because with the current rhythm you are emphasizing 00:52:685 - which makes the sounds on 00:52:957 - 00:53:230 - feel less drastic even tho they are much more emphasized
00:53:775 (1,2) - The sounds that are supported by 00:54:185 (2) - are seriously not as much strong as the sounds 00:53:775 (1) - this is supporting. Having both with same rhythm, same slider shape and having them next to each other is what makes it problematic to me. Atleast try to map them in a way so that the contrast between the different sounds is more reasonable
Same things repeat throughout the difficulty

[Hard]

00:08:503 (1) - Could be a bit misleading as its a hard difficulty because the slider ends on the upward direction while the next circle is below it

[toybot]

00:29:912 - I get that you are trying to follow the kicks here but the rhythm ,the way you made it, sounds a bit weird. Theres a clear sound on 00:29:912 - which you shouldn't ignore, if you don't want to give it much emphasis you can simply add a reverse to 00:29:639 (1) - and that will solve the problem

[Drop]

01:06:185 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You made this whole pattern so hard and followed the wubs really nicely ,The wubs at 01:07:275 - 01:07:412 - 01:07:548 - 01:07:548 - Are even more intense than what all the previous ones so yea i really suggest you do something more intense than just a 1/2 slider.
Suddenly changing the instrument from wubs to those sounds at 01:07:275 - 01:07:548 - felt kind of weird
01:11:503 - 01:12:048 (8) - Why are these notes muted lol
01:22:548 (1,2) - Comparing these two, theres a big difference between what both sliders follow, yet they are next to each other and are mapped in a similar way. 01:22:548 (1) - You can definitely change this into a 1/4 repeat slider for a better contrast
01:35:707 (4) - There is no audible sound on this beat and giving it as much emphasis as 01:35:503 (1,2,3) - is just bad because giving 4 equal emphasis to the first three circles makes them loose their emphasis really badly. The way you executed this at 01:40:207 (4) - is better though

[Avena]

01:39:798 (4) - The sound is actually at 01:39:935 - not at 01:39:798 -
01:44:639 (1) - Probably remove this nc since you didn't NC this one in other cases

[Terror]

00:30:457 (1) - Try ctrl'g on this because that would make a much better movement through these notes
01:38:094 (3) - Unsnapped
01:37:412 (1,1,1,1) - Unnecessary NC spam tbh

You can call me back if the things i mentioned in advanced are fixed and if maridius doesn't bubble

Regou

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Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-04T12:08:11+00:00

Fixed all for my diff!! also fixed tags etc on lcfc's diff

[ Drop ]

558 posts

Joined February 2013

[ Drop ] 2017-11-04T16:45:10+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
[Drop]
01:06:185 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You made this whole pattern so hard and followed the wubs really nicely ,The wubs at 01:07:275 - 01:07:412 - 01:07:548 - 01:07:548 - Are even more intense than what all the previous ones so yea i really suggest you do something more intense than just a 1/2 slider.
Suddenly changing the instrument from wubs to those sounds at 01:07:275 - 01:07:548 - felt kind of weird
01:11:503 - 01:12:048 (8) - Why are these notes muted lol
01:22:548 (1,2) - Comparing these two, theres a big difference between what both sliders follow, yet they are next to each other and are mapped in a similar way. 01:22:548 (1) - You can definitely change this into a 1/4 repeat slider for a better contrast
01:35:707 (4) - There is no audible sound on this beat and giving it as much emphasis as 01:35:503 (1,2,3) - is just bad because giving 4 equal emphasis to the first three circles makes them loose their emphasis really badly. The way you executed this at 01:40:207 (4) - is better though

All fixed ty

Last edited by [ Drop ] 2017-11-04T16:52:01+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

[ Drop ]

558 posts

Joined February 2013

[ Drop ] 2017-11-04T16:50:42+00:00

-Faded- wrote:
Hey, from my queue!
[Drop's EXTR4]
00:02:775 (2,3) - Make this stack consistent with the stacks at 00:00:594 (2,3) - and 00:03:457 (5,1) - . It'll throw players off and I don't see a reason why the spacing on this stack should be any different to the ones before and after.
00:41:639 (1,2,3) - You can make this pattern look nicer if you moved (2) to x:477 y:254 and (3) to x:441 y:336. This way there is a noticeable symmetry and the player will easily be able to see the parallel lines formed by (1) and (2). Same suggestion applies to 00:42:730 (1,2,3,4) - .
01:11:503 (4) - I'd make this note a lot louder. While I do understand the effect you were going for (silencing the note to put emphasis on the vocal), this is a decision that I don't agree with because hitsounds serve the purpose of providing the player feedback; without them then the player will struggle to hit the notes accurately. I would at least make the hitsound here louder, i.e. have the note at 30% volume instead of 5%, because this'll still allow you to achieve the effect you were going for without hindering the player's experience.
01:44:912 (1) - I would move the third anchor point to x:342 y:140 so that it blankets 01:45:321 (1) - , making it look nicer. (It'll look something like this)

All fixed ty~
can you help me with these hitsound problem ;w; sorry

here

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toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-11-04T18:03:18+00:00

i just added a circle instead, reverse would be pretty confusing too
thanks! https://0paste.com/17122.txt

Gloria Guard

2,274 posts

Joined May 2011

Gloria Guard 2017-11-08T01:54:20+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Finally a proper map for this song tbh
[G.G]
00:52:548 (1) - 1/2 is extremely unnecessary here. just try to do a 1/1 slider instead because with the current rhythm you are emphasizing 00:52:685 - which makes the sounds on 00:52:957 - 00:53:230 - feel less drastic even tho they are much more emphasized I intended the some drum and general tick sound here. If you insert the 1/1 slider, you will ignore any other sounds contained within the slider. so I think it is better to create rhythm as it is than to ignore it.
00:53:775 (1,2) - The sounds that are supported by 00:54:185 (2) - are seriously not as much strong as the sounds 00:53:775 (1) - this is supporting. Having both with same rhythm, same slider shape and having them next to each other is what makes it problematic to me. Atleast try to map them in a way so that the contrast between the different sounds is more reasonable I think I've made the right sound and have already made a slider that fits the general player level If this slider is in a shape and rhythm that people don't know at all, I understand your suggestion. also I think personal problem and general problems are different. becasue this pattern and rhythm is a common pattern that many people already know. and I didn't make an inaccurate rhythm, and the look only made it look like a general shape to allow the player to perceive it according to the mood of the music.
Same things repeat throughout the difficulty I made the correct rhythm and tried to maintain consistency.

Regou

1,927 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-09T10:39:33+00:00

I guess I'd have to check mods for Avena first because he seemed to be inactive right now :/ (omg hope I didn't screw things up)

MaridiuS wrote:
Hello, i'm here to mod.

[Aven4]
On this difficulty I am generally a bit against a few rhythm choices. At times choices between going circles or sliders seems arbitrarily done without much relation to the song. It looked like you were going for patterning ideas in mind, dismissing the song as nothing is happening differently on several occasions
.
00:18:185 (3,1,2) - First comparison that comes to mind is this. The song has constant synth sound on the red tick like 00:18:048 - and 00:18:594 - , but there are exceptions in the song, when the red tick 00:18:321 - has an additional vocal. Generally you'd want to acute some more distinct sounds in a section in order to make a better relation to the song. By actively mapping most vocals on red ticks like 00:18:321 - 00:18:866 - 00:19:412 - you will differentiate them from the other red ticks that have the constant synth going meaning it will better relate to the song. Now going back to the example, in order to understand better what I mean is to turn 00:18:185 (3) - into two circles, resulting in the red tick vocal being mapped, and change 00:18:457 (1) - into a slider, since the red tick is more fitting to be a sliderend because it has nothing important to it. 00:23:094 (1,1) - Some more examples of where you could make the sliderend actively mapped. Of course if you agree, this section might need a remap..
I think I can't really remap for avena 'cause it might break the map ;w;...I changed 00:18:185 (3) - into circles as the vocal is pretty strong there. Yet i kept 00:23:094 (1,1) - because having a slider there makes the flow much better imo, changing them into circle may kind of make a flow spike here...

00:19:821 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing on these seems to be too large in comparison to the rest of the section since its in 1/4. 00:24:185 (1,2,3,4,5) - especially goes for this one, the spacing is bigger than the default choice of 1/2 spacing on the section.
I guess this one should be okay because players won't follow the slider pathway when they click on those 1/4 sliders during gameplay so they would only work like a circle

00:46:275 (2,3) - In the rest of the section you tend to use bigger jumps and not so direct flow for this particular pattern where a 1/4 slider goes into a 1/2 one.
fixed

01:03:594 (2) - Comparing it to 01:04:139 (5) - it is fairly quiet and doesn't contain the deep bass + synth that that the other one has. Yet it is mapped identically. Ideally you'll want to make the weaker note a sliderend or give it lower spacing.
I changed (1) to a slider

01:04:548 (1,2,3) - The vocals going faster compared to the previous pattern in this section suggests that the map should complement that with more circles and harder difficulty. By making all of these into circles every red tick with vocals will be filled, which is the way to go imo since it will be more intense to better follow the intensity of the song.
01:05:094 (3,5) - The synth (guitar?!?) notes appearing here are also fast going in 1/2 intervals, yet in the map it is all filled up with sliders without any particular change in the map to complement those additional sounds. Ideally if you follow my previous suggestions, and if you decide on turning these into circles, they should be differentiated as they're a different sound layer, so doing stacks or low spacing on these sounds would be the way to go.
fixed (with maridius help)

01:05:912 (4,5) - Don't understand at all why this jump is large compared to anything else in the section.
Nerfed

01:07:821 - 01:10:003 - This interval contains similarly mapped notes, so all suggestions that I've said on this section are meant for this too.
fixed 01:07:821 - , for 01:10:003 - check the explanation above

01:10:139 (2,3,4,5) - Uhm them having different spacing emphasis than 01:05:639 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't seem to make sense at all when they're identical sounds.
fixed

01:12:185 (1,2,3) - Another example where a random note that isn't vocals or any particular synth / drum on the red tick is mapped same like one that has more intensity in the song to it 01:12:866 (5) - .
fixed

01:13:275 (1,2,3) - Similar issue I have pointed out recently where the vocals are going faster but the rhythm in the map is slowing down with slider usage.
fixed

01:14:094 (5,6) - Giving such huge notice to this particular synth sound makes me further put into question your dismissing of it on previous patterns like 01:09:730 (5) - .
fixed

01:24:185 (1) - Okay so let's try to analyze this. Let's say that the scream HZ is about 255 since its human maximumim... Calculating on this bpm 32 notes on 1/8 will happen in 1 second. 1/16 is 64, 1/32 is 128, 1/64 is 256. So that means in order to make this fit the song you'll have to multiply the bpm by 4x and snap on 1/16. Good luck on that. Tldr it's a good idea to use a slider or a spinner instead since following vocal pitch in HZ is not how much osu! has developed yet.
I changed it to a spinner

01:25:685 (3,4,5,6) - Like I've mentioned 00:46:275 (2,3)
fixed

Okay let me try to rationalize on why the spacing is a bit overspaced in the chorus. 00:49:139 (8,1) - 01:28:411 (8,1) - browsing the map a bit, I've found these as examples of drum emphasis on a note after a circle. This is a single note emphasis, therefore it is generally more acceptable to be big. While in this section, every jump is bigger than that emphasis even though its like all jumps. So by comparing a bit, I think that I've found the most acceptable spacing for the jump section https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9455107 , that way it would make more sense with the rest of the map. However it gets a little more problematic 01:35:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - when you increase the intensity of the map, even though the song doesn't seem to have any louder 1/2 or a pitch increasing in the background. The spacing becomes incomparable to the rest on this spacing distance.
I nerfed 01:34:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 01:35:912 (8,9) -.The reason why I kept most of 01:35:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - is mainly because the pitch is higher there so I think having the largest spacing here throughout the whole map should still make sense. Still, some nerf is done to ensure playability of the pattern.

01:39:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Another argument that may compel you to not increase of spacing in the first part of the kiai is that this, what I linked, has no increasment in spacing compared to its counterpart in the first part.
Same as above, the pitch is higher here so slightly increasing the spacing here should be okay imo. Yet, I did some fine adjustment slight decreasing the spacing to make the pattern a bit easier

01:39:935 - pretty sure the 3stack should be here and not 01:39:798 (4) -
Fixed
Depending on the replies and results of my mod on these two maps, I will consider going for nomination, will however checkback on my own accord. Also Toybot difficulty also seems like it has some rhythm issues, but as I said, I'll be first awaiting replies. Checked the others diffs, and there doesn't seem anything of much significance as these two posts.

Also removed NC at 01:44:639 (1) - !

Affirmation

2,548 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-11-10T08:16:30+00:00

fixed Ren's stuff

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MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-10T22:32:02+00:00

Oki had some irc with regou and he fixed most stuff from Avena and a few more suggestions on his Terror diff, now I proceed to check the rest OwO. NO KUDOSU!!!

[Drop Extr4]

00:26:912 (5) - This is a sound that is still impactful like it was till now, like 00:22:548 (4,5) - or 00:18:185 (4,5) - . So with the vocals still being that impactful, I warmly recommend to make the slider into two circles so that it will also be more impactful in the map. 00:29:094 (5) - Same goes for this and 00:31:275 (5) - . I could understand that the section kinda changed which leads to different interpretation, however, some sounds are the same, still as loud and noticeable like the previous section.
00:35:094 (1) - In the current state it looks very weird how the sliderheads overlap, some more spacing, like this should work better https://i.imgur.com/JGdK9GQ.jpg . Usually those pixel imperfect stacks feel off, so just make it less overlapped.
00:45:457 (1,1) - This is odd too, no reason not to make it a full overlap.
00:51:116 (8,9) - By making the 1/4 slider a bit curved, it would other than look better, enrich the current structure. The curved streams will be grouped with curved sliders, and straight streams with straight sliders, switching stream shape but not slider shape is a bit inconsistent. Referring to 00:55:275 (5,6,7,8,9) - and 00:46:548 (5,6,7,8,9) - . 00:59:912 (9) - This slider could also be curved.
01:05:094 (5,6) - Transforming them into 1/2 with some gimmick (like stacks idk your choice) should work really well to differentiate the electronic sound here that appears on 1/2 intervals. 01:09:457 (5,6) - Especially applies to this since it has those electronic sounds, yet it is mapped quite similarly to others pure vocals like 01:04:003 (5,6) - . Same goes for 01:13:821 (1,2). 01:18:185 (1,2) - Although for this one I suggest turning only the first one into 2 clickable circles in order to give some space to the player with second being slider.
01:06:321 (2) - There seems to be some hitsounding errors, this should not have a clap, but rather 01:06:457 (1) - should.
01:23:366 (2,3,4,5,6) - In this pattern red ticks are much more dominant than the white ticks it hurts, yet white ticks were given same emphasis / spacing. In order to differentiate the important red ticks from the white ticks, this is the rhythm that I can provide https://i.imgur.com/pXTCaXE.jpg. In case you apply, be sure to give them big spacing (whatever u thing is big is ok) in order to emphasize it but spacing not just rhythm.
01:26:094 (7) - Similarly like I have mentioned on the previous kiai, you could make this curved. 01:30:185 (3,4,5,6,7) - And to keep similar variety formula where you switch between straight and curved streams this might be a good idea to be a straight stream. Or you could make the first straight but the second curved with a curvy slider, your choice.
01:37:957 (4,5,6) - Can't u just stack it on 01:37:275 (1) -

[Toybot]

00:20:639 (2) - It would be sweet if this were 2 circles to follow the vocals which have on both the sliderend and sliderhead "E" sound xd.
00:26:912 (4) - It should be a good idea to emphasize this like it was done before 00:22:548 (2,3) - , this part of vocals and intensity didn't change in this section.00:29:094 (4) - Same to this. Other than being more relevant to the song, it would make this part more fun since there seem to be too many sliders in a row.
00:40:275 (4) - This is a completely different layer than 00:40:003 (3) - yet it is mapped identically. Making this into 2 circles to follow the high pitched sounds is one option. Different option of filling it is to make 00:40:003 (3) - 1/1 so it gets filled in a different way if you want the drums to have main emphasis.
00:46:821 (1,2) - The main concern that I have with the difficulty is that these two don't have contrast in the whole section, and the kiai after. 00:46:821 (1) - This has 2 high pitched synth on both red and white tick while 00:47:094 (2) - is much less intense with only one pitch on its head. Now, even though it is structured like that throughout the map and planned, it doesn't mean it's the best option. So in case you disagree with this I'd want your strongest opinions. 00:51:185 (1,2) - 00:55:548 (1,2) - same goes for these and any similar in the map, including the second kiai too. The other difficulties differentiate them by making either the second slider 3/4 and reduced SV, some by introducing kicksliders, and an additional option I offer is to make 00:46:821 (1) - sounds into 2 circles.
00:47:707 - This being empty makes me feel empty inside. I kinda understand that you're against quadriples but hmmm... 00:51:730 (3,1) - How about filling it like this instead, they are the same sounds. Even if technically you didn't follow the 1/4's, it got filled by sliderslide. 00:56:435 - 01:00:457 (3) -
01:31:003 (3,4) - Other than the suggestion applying to this, the spacing to (4) is like 1/4 spacing and could be a bit confusing 01:30:048 (3,4,1) - . Additionally by it being low spacing it is being inconsistent with 00:56:503 (4,5,6) - previous section 3stack after a slider, meaning its easier to do even though in this section I felt like you intended an increase of difficulty.
01:31:003 (3,4) - Other than suggestion applying to this too, the 3stack is only not used here, no reason to vary it now. It was consistent all about till here.
01:39:185 (4) - It's a good idea to make this into 2 circles like you did 01:34:821 (4,5,5,6) - on these two examples since its the same sound and it makes sense to make it more intense.

[lcfc]

01:01:275 (1) - This looks like it has tumor xdxd. https://i.imgur.com/qDT5HAH.jpg I say yes to simple Z
01:02:230 (1,2,3) - Enable stacking, it looks really weird since one is fully stacked, the other just a bit.
Other than that, well fkin done man.

[e4sy]

Have you tried ar3? I think it works better since some spots with huge pauses seem weird in the current state. Also sorry for ruining the descent by putting easy here, but I had to for some green lines xd.
00:10:821 (3) - Really confused to volume reducement to 55% from 00:10:616 - . 00:14:980 - same from this.
00:25:685 - Wish that in future you remove those green lines, it could sometimes annoy you, or force modders / nominators to check them out for no reason.
00:27:457 - Not sure if this is by mistake 100%, lines are really weird. 00:17:366 - same for this.
00:35:025 - This line could sound weird when the player that spins suddenly hears a more quiet spinning score sound.
00:43:821 (3) - Whistle?
00:58:821 (3) - clap?
01:22:003 - Uhm you could use this beat here, I think new players would prefer to click something then wait for something they don't know what.
01:29:366 (3) - Clap + whistle? I mean for clap you usually put it 1/1 before a downbeat like 01:26:912 (3) - , whistle since idk it sounds good.
01:32:503 (2) - When the curved slider gets close to the path of a straight slider, not only trying to blanket the sliderhead or end it looks weird. So https://i.imgur.com/eAtTt0e.jpg I'd suggest something like this.
01:36:185 (5,1) - This pause is too long, placing a note on 01:37:275 - should really fit imo.

[H4rd]

Same green line volume problems, referring to 55% ones especially. I think ar 7.5 should suit this more (or even ar8) since this is a hard difficulty based on spaced sliders not following DS with hard focus on rhythm, it will be more conventional that way.

00:21:321 (3) - I believe this vocal too be quiet, at least quieter than 00:21:457 (1,2,3) - . With your map focusing mostly on slider spacing / jumps and not rhythm density, this feels a bit like an overkill to have 5 1/2 clickables in a row. By making this a slider the following triangle will feel much more emphasized.
00:24:594 (2,3) - This sounds really off, no obvious musical pattern is being followed, and you base your map on white ticks mostly. https://i.imgur.com/sCgWf3i.jpg this rhythm seems much better since it's on white ticks, and reverse slider is where the repeated fast vocals start.
01:03:594 - damn u really like pausing these two 01:08:094 -
01:23:094 (1,2,1) - https://i.imgur.com/asiezIz.jpg You'd want to do something like this for multiple reasons. It may seem confusing to players playing hard difficulties, since there was no element of this type included in the mapset. Next, it looks odd since it is a full overlap, yet 01:23:503 (2,1) - is partially overlapped (I mean with osu! autostack). Third, "If stacks are used, Stack Leniency must be set high enough for 1/2 hit objects to stack. Directly overlapping hit objects cause reading problems for players of this level." Idk some rule xd. It is not really warranted imo.
01:32:775 (1) - https://i.imgur.com/v5TqdpN.jpg Played around and made it symmetrical, I think it looks better this way since the sliderend isn't in the middle of slider.

[G.G]
Wow these are some mad 1/2 trains. However that is problematic at times since emphasis is not being felt when a seemingly non important note was mapped actively, which in even harder difficulties should be often considered as a sliderend. Other than that I think this'll need a little bit work on rescaling the difficulty of sections, as the most rhythmically dense part in the song 01:34:003 - has lower rhythmical density in the map than some more peaceful sections.

Now firstly I'd like to mention few places where the 1/2 gap isn't really warranted. By doing 1/1 more important notes could be better emphasized. 00:18:048 (2) - First that comes to mind is this one, since it's significantly weaker than both the slider end and the vocals on the sliderhead in the subsequent note. Same applies to this 00:22:412 (2) - . And I think the most viable option is https://i.imgur.com/WMnTpRX.jpg . It also suits the vocals since slider heads are being clicked when the vocals begin. Also same applies to all others similar to that in case you agree.
01:20:912 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is a really long train of 1/2's with a lot of notes happening with varying intensity. A good idea would be to break down the rhythm a bit, ease it up. https://i.imgur.com/mn8T7qA.jpg I've came up with this rhythm, it may not follow the rhythm on point, but it overall complements the intensity of that part. 01:21:321 - Since this is less intense than others, for example in kiai which are followed up by drums, using 1/1 should suit better to follow the synth. By doing this it will establish a nice contrast when the kiai starts which should have denser rhythm.
As a way to make the kiai with the densest rhythm in the song actually hardest... You could https://i.imgur.com/ytVy6YH.jpg use more circles here, it's an ideal spot, right between two long sliders, players will have all the time to prepare for that, and it will overall balance out the intensity of the kiai. Same applies to 01:39:321 (4,1,2,3,1) - . The star rating isn't rising so I'd say it's a pretty valid idea. Anyways if apply this mod in at least similar way as I suggest, you will probably solve contrast and emphasis issues without a need for further analyzing imo.

[NeoSL]

Ugh yeah, same green line volume problems
01:11:094 (3) - Making it symmetrical should look better https://i.imgur.com/P7ekTAS.jpg
01:22:003 (2,2) - Not a good looking overlap
01:47:094 (1,2) - Blanketing it should look better xd

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Affirmation 2017-11-11T00:39:45+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
[NeoSL]
Ugh yeah, same green line volume problems
01:11:094 (3) - Making it symmetrical should look better https://i.imgur.com/P7ekTAS.jpgfor low, I'llo keep my pattern.
01:22:003 (2,2) - Not a good looking overlaplol I thought I fixed before, anyway fixed.
01:47:094 (1,2) - Blanketing it should look better xdNo, 01:46:548 (3,1) - for flow and 01:46:548 (3,1,2) - triangle

thanks for mod xD

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Gloria Guard

2,274 posts

Joined May 2011

Gloria Guard 2017-11-11T03:07:11+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
[G.G]
Wow these are some mad 1/2 trains. However that is problematic at times since emphasis is not being felt when a seemingly non important note was mapped actively, which in even harder difficulties should be often considered as a sliderend. Other than that I think this'll need a little bit work on rescaling the difficulty of sections, as the most rhythmically dense part in the song 01:34:003 - has lower rhythmical density in the map than some more peaceful sections.
Now firstly I'd like to mention few places where the 1/2 gap isn't really warranted. By doing 1/1 more important notes could be better emphasized. 00:18:048 (2) - First that comes to mind is this one, since it's significantly weaker than both the slider end and the vocals on the sliderhead in the subsequent note. Same applies to this 00:22:412 (2) - . And I think the most viable option is https://i.imgur.com/WMnTpRX.jpg . It also suits the vocals since slider heads are being clicked when the vocals begin. Also same applies to all others similar to that in case you agree. You're right Fixed
01:20:912 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is a really long train of 1/2's with a lot of notes happening with varying intensity. A good idea would be to break down the rhythm a bit, ease it up. https://i.imgur.com/mn8T7qA.jpg I've came up with this rhythm, it may not follow the rhythm on point, but it overall complements the intensity of that part. 01:21:321 - Since this is less intense than others, for example in kiai which are followed up by drums, using 1/1 should suit better to follow the synth. By doing this it will establish a nice contrast when the kiai starts which should have denser rhythm. Fixed
As a way to make the kiai with the densest rhythm in the song actually hardest... You could https://i.imgur.com/ytVy6YH.jpg use more circles here, it's an ideal spot, right between two long sliders, players will have all the time to prepare for that, and it will overall balance out the intensity of the kiai. Same applies to 01:39:321 (4,1,2,3,1) - . The star rating isn't rising so I'd say it's a pretty valid idea. Anyways if apply this mod in at least similar way as I suggest, you will probably solve contrast and emphasis issues without a need for further analyzing imo. i want to emphasis 01:35:912 (3) this electro piano sounds. i think the changed the note a little hard feeling that patterns.

Thanks for mods !

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lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-11-11T04:56:35+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
[lcfc]
01:01:275 (1) - This looks like it has tumor xdxd. https://i.imgur.com/qDT5HAH.jpg I say yes to simple Z yeah I can agree that this shape doesn't really fit so made it a z
01:02:230 (1,2,3) - Enable stacking, it looks really weird since one is fully stacked, the other just a bit. actually I had stacking enabled but the infamous stack bug striked back so I think it's fixed now xd
Other than that, well fkin done man. thank you

Thanks for modding!

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osu file format v14

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Regou

1,927 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-11T17:45:55+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Oki had some irc with regou and he fixed most stuff from Avena and a few more suggestions on his Terror diff, now I proceed to check the rest OwO. NO KUDOSU!!!

[e4sy]
Have you tried ar3? I think it works better since some spots with huge pauses seem weird in the current state. Also sorry for ruining the descent by putting easy here, but I had to for some green lines xd. I changed the ar to 3 :3
00:10:821 (3) - Really confused to volume reducement to 55% from 00:10:616 - . 00:14:980 - same from this. I actually copied the hitsound from avena's diff xd from what I hear it should be because drum-hitnormal is too loud when compared to normal-hitfinish so he reduced the volume to balance things out here
00:25:685 - Wish that in future you remove those green lines, it could sometimes annoy you, or force modders / nominators to check them out for no reason. okay
00:27:457 - Not sure if this is by mistake 100%, lines are really weird. 00:17:366 - same for this. both are not likely to be a mistake: 00:17:366 - loud vocal 00:27:457 - sudden vocal change using 100% volume can make the hitwhistle stands out more hence emphasize these spots more
00:35:025 - This line could sound weird when the player that spins suddenly hears a more quiet spinning score sound. Removed
00:43:821 (3) - Whistle? okay
00:58:821 (3) - clap? i forgot to add this when i applied ren's mod xd done
01:22:003 - Uhm you could use this beat here, I think new players would prefer to click something then wait for something they don't know what. Changed 01:20:912 (1) - to a long slider instead imo this beat isn't strong enough for me to put a circle here
01:29:366 (3) - Clap + whistle? I mean for clap you usually put it 1/1 before a downbeat like 01:26:912 (3) - , whistle since idk it sounds good. Adding clap would do since i didn't add whistle at similar spot before i think i'd prefer not to add it
01:32:503 (2) - When the curved slider gets close to the path of a straight slider, not only trying to blanket the sliderhead or end it looks weird. So https://i.imgur.com/eAtTt0e.jpg I'd suggest something like this. okay
01:36:185 (5,1) - This pause is too long, placing a note on 01:37:275 - should really fit imo. It feels kinda weird to only follow one beat here while skipping so many others...i'd prefer skipping all of them instead.

[H4rd]
Same green line volume problems, referring to 55% ones especially. I think ar 7.5 should suit this more (or even ar8) since this is a hard difficulty based on spaced sliders not following DS with hard focus on rhythm, it will be more conventional that way. changed ar to 7.5!
00:21:321 (3) - I believe this vocal too be quiet, at least quieter than 00:21:457 (1,2,3) - . With your map focusing mostly on slider spacing / jumps and not rhythm density, this feels a bit like an overkill to have 5 1/2 clickables in a row. By making this a slider the following triangle will feel much more emphasized. I changed (2) into a slider instead
00:24:594 (2,3) - This sounds really off, no obvious musical pattern is being followed, and you base your map on white ticks mostly. https://i.imgur.com/sCgWf3i.jpg this rhythm seems much better since it's on white ticks, and reverse slider is where the repeated fast vocals start. it's actually following the background music since the rhythm of vocal is too complicated and is impossible to follow in a hard diff. I prefer keeping mine as there's completely no sound at 00:24:321 - keeping there blank would fit the music even more
01:03:594 - damn u really like pausing these two 01:08:094 - for consistency
01:23:094 (1,2,1) - https://i.imgur.com/asiezIz.jpg You'd want to do something like this for multiple reasons. It may seem confusing to players playing hard difficulties, since there was no element of this type included in the mapset. Next, it looks odd since it is a full overlap, yet 01:23:503 (2,1) - is partially overlapped (I mean with osu! autostack). Third, "If stacks are used, Stack Leniency must be set high enough for 1/2 hit objects to stack. Directly overlapping hit objects cause reading problems for players of this level." Idk some rule xd. It is not really warranted imo. alright splitted the stacking here ;w;
01:32:775 (1) - https://i.imgur.com/v5TqdpN.jpg Played around and made it symmetrical, I think it looks better this way since the sliderend isn't in the middle of slider. i'm doing it because i want to fit the isosceles triangle pattern here more aesthetically having the slider not symmetrical with longer length looks better for me instead

Again thanks for modding!!
Added IntellectualBoy to tag as well

MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-11T21:11:20+00:00

Ugh checking avena diff it seems he did 55% in order to not make the 1/8 sounds obnoxious so, I don't think he had an idea of having this one slider end a bit more silent ;p

[ Drop ]

558 posts

Joined February 2013

[ Drop ] 2017-11-12T06:49:23+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Oki had some irc with regou and he fixed most stuff from Avena and a few more suggestions on his Terror diff, now I proceed to check the rest OwO. NO KUDOSU!!!

[Drop Extr4]
00:26:912 (5) - This is a sound that is still impactful like it was till now, like 00:22:548 (4,5) - or 00:18:185 (4,5) - . So with the vocals still being that impactful, I warmly recommend to make the slider into two circles so that it will also be more impactful in the map. 00:29:094 (5) - Same goes for this and 00:31:275 (5) - . I could understand that the section kinda changed which leads to different interpretation, however, some sounds are the same, still as loud and noticeable like the previous section.
00:35:094 (1) - In the current state it looks very weird how the sliderheads overlap, some more spacing, like this should work better https://i.imgur.com/JGdK9GQ.jpg . Usually those pixel imperfect stacks feel off, so just make it less overlapped.
00:45:457 (1,1) - This is odd too, no reason not to make it a full overlap.
00:51:116 (8,9) - By making the 1/4 slider a bit curved, it would other than look better, enrich the current structure. The curved streams will be grouped with curved sliders, and straight streams with straight sliders, switching stream shape but not slider shape is a bit inconsistent. Referring to 00:55:275 (5,6,7,8,9) - and 00:46:548 (5,6,7,8,9) - . 00:59:912 (9) - This slider could also be curved.
01:05:094 (5,6) - Transforming them into 1/2 with some gimmick (like stacks idk your choice) should work really well to differentiate the electronic sound here that appears on 1/2 intervals. 01:09:457 (5,6) - Especially applies to this since it has those electronic sounds, yet it is mapped quite similarly to others pure vocals like 01:04:003 (5,6) - . Same goes for 01:13:821 (1,2). 01:18:185 (1,2) - Although for this one I suggest turning only the first one into 2 clickable circles in order to give some space to the player with second being slider.
01:06:321 (2) - There seems to be some hitsounding errors, this should not have a clap, but rather 01:06:457 (1) - should.
01:23:366 (2,3,4,5,6) - In this pattern red ticks are much more dominant than the white ticks it hurts, yet white ticks were given same emphasis / spacing. In order to differentiate the important red ticks from the white ticks, this is the rhythm that I can provide https://i.imgur.com/pXTCaXE.jpg. In case you apply, be sure to give them big spacing (whatever u thing is big is ok) in order to emphasize it but spacing not just rhythm.
01:26:094 (7) - Similarly like I have mentioned on the previous kiai, you could make this curved. 01:30:185 (3,4,5,6,7) - And to keep similar variety formula where you switch between straight and curved streams this might be a good idea to be a straight stream. Or you could make the first straight but the second curved with a curvy slider, your choice.
01:37:957 (4,5,6) - Can't u just stack it on 01:37:275 (1) -

All fixed thanks for the mod ;D

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Regou

1,927 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-12T08:51:48+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Ugh checking avena diff it seems he did 55% in order to not make the 1/8 sounds obnoxious so, I don't think he had an idea of having this one slider end a bit more silent ;p

checked it again it's more like to make the "hitclap" sound not so obnoxious since he's spamming it adding it on every white and red tick. I've tried to switch it back to 80% and the hitclap sounds really lound at there. It sounds better to have the volume kept at 55% imo.

toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-11-25T00:17:50+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Oki had some irc with regou and he fixed most stuff from Avena and a few more suggestions on his Terror diff, now I proceed to check the rest OwO. NO KUDOSU!!!

[Toybot]
00:20:639 (2) - It would be sweet if this were 2 circles to follow the vocals which have on both the sliderend and sliderhead "E" sound xd. // ok
00:26:912 (4) - It should be a good idea to emphasize this like it was done before 00:22:548 (2,3) - , this part of vocals and intensity didn't change in this section.00:29:094 (4) - Same to this. Other than being more relevant to the song, it would make this part more fun since there seem to be too many sliders in a row. // ok
00:40:275 (4) - This is a completely different layer than 00:40:003 (3) - yet it is mapped identically. Making this into 2 circles to follow the high pitched sounds is one option. Different option of filling it is to make 00:40:003 (3) - 1/1 so it gets filled in a different way if you want the drums to have main emphasis. // i don't really see a problem with having a 1/2 slider there and im not strictly following the melody
00:46:821 (1,2) - The main concern that I have with the difficulty is that these two don't have contrast in the whole section, and the kiai after. 00:46:821 (1) - This has 2 high pitched synth on both red and white tick while 00:47:094 (2) - is much less intense with only one pitch on its head. Now, even though it is structured like that throughout the map and planned, it doesn't mean it's the best option. So in case you disagree with this I'd want your strongest opinions. 00:51:185 (1,2) - 00:55:548 (1,2) - same goes for these and any similar in the map, including the second kiai too. The other difficulties differentiate them by making either the second slider 3/4 and reduced SV, some by introducing kicksliders, and an additional option I offer is to make 00:46:821 (1) - sounds into 2 circles. // honestly changing these would involve major restructuring and the end result would just be a more difficult map, when a 1/2 slider is adequate enough without having to overcomplicate it
00:47:707 - This being empty makes me feel empty inside. I kinda understand that you're against quadriples but hmmm... 00:51:730 (3,1) - How about filling it like this instead, they are the same sounds. Even if technically you didn't follow the 1/4's, it got filled by sliderslide. 00:56:435 - 01:00:457 (3) - // yeah... i'm still not strictly following every sound in the song and i'm going more toward simplicity
01:31:003 (3,4) - Other than the suggestion applying to this, the spacing to (4) is like 1/4 spacing and could be a bit confusing 01:30:048 (3,4,1) - . Additionally by it being low spacing it is being inconsistent with 00:56:503 (4,5,6) - previous section 3stack after a slider, meaning its easier to do even though in this section I felt like you intended an increase of difficulty. // moved the slider a little further away
01:31:003 (3,4) - Other than suggestion applying to this too, the 3stack is only not used here, no reason to vary it now. It was consistent all about till here. // okk
01:39:185 (4) - It's a good idea to make this into 2 circles like you did 01:34:821 (4,5,5,6) - on these two examples since its the same sound and it makes sense to make it more intense. // ok

thanksss https://0paste.com/18363.txt

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-11-25T02:21:19+00:00

Sorry for taking so long! I haven't forgotten, and will check shortly. Please let me know if I should wait until Maridius bubbles (if he is bubbling, which I think he should).

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-11-25T02:53:37+00:00

TERROR

00:06:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - I didn't really like how you split the pattern into a triangle at the end. imo it doesn't really fit, i think being consistent with the triplets is better. The triangle jump feels too similar to 00:07:821 (1,2,3,4) - in terms of rhythm even though the spacing is quite different and I think just using a triplet is best.
00:17:094 (1) - I would remove the NC here so you get that X pattern with 4. NC on 00:17:366 (2) - instead.
00:35:094 (1) - Man, this could be a lot better symmetrically imo... anyways feel free to use this code if you want, made a quick edit:

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00:48:594 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Any reason they aren't more symmetrical?

Avena's Ultra

00:15:457 (1,2) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical like your next two sliders.
01:22:549 (2,3,4,5,1) - The spaced stream feels quite forced in this section... can you do something less movement-intensive?

Drop's Extra

00:27:457 (1,2,3) - I think spacing them out gives them more impact. Right now the SV doesn't really get highlighted due to how close the heads are.
00:43:821 (1) - Give it more of a circular shape in the center so it looks cooler

~

01:30:730 (1,1) - If you can make the head/tail overlap the same amount that'd make the pattern 10/10 right now its 9/10 (applies to other places actually, but i thnk you know better than me where they are cuz i overlooked them x__x)

toybot's Another

01:33:594 - Quite curiosu why you didnt map this even tho theres still a note there.
01:43:957 (2,3,4) - Just shift this down and right a bit more cuz the stacking makes the visual spacing slightly off compared to ur two sliders earlier.

LCFC's Insane

00:54:185 (1,1,1,2) - This just looks really cluttered especially with the stack at the end. Can you use a jump or something?

1/4 jump could work here too

01:34:003 (1,2,3) - This is quite confusing xP. especially with how you place 3, i think its too easy to misread and go for 3 can you structure it so there is better flow and more straightforward angles?

Hard

00:47:912 (2) - I actually think Ctrl+G flows better. Also creates a nice angle going into 00:47:912 (2,1) - .
00:53:775 (1,2,3) - This part the song is kind of "quietting down" so imo using a 1/2 repeat would fit the intensity a bit better. You don't even map the 1/2's later on with 01:32:775 (1) - so its probably better to not make this so single-tap heavy anyways~

[]

Double starring this but get Maridius to bubble first~

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-11-25T05:07:07+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
LCFC's Insane

00:54:185 (1,1,1,2) - This just looks really cluttered especially with the stack at the end. Can you use a jump or something?
1/4 jump could work here too
Using a jump would make it inconsistent with other patterns such as 00:45:457 (1,1,1,2) - but I did something else that makes it way less cluttered
01:34:003 (1,2,3) - This is quite confusing xP. especially with how you place 3, i think its too easy to misread and go for 3 can you structure it so there is better flow and more straightforward angles? Even though I don't agree I can't say I disagree either because others may have a harder time as they don't know what to expect :d, fixed!

Thanks for modding!

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Regou

1,927 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-25T13:36:05+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
TERROR

00:06:662 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - I didn't really like how you split the pattern into a triangle at the end. imo it doesn't really fit, i think being consistent with the triplets is better. The triangle jump feels too similar to 00:07:821 (1,2,3,4) - in terms of rhythm even though the spacing is quite different and I think just using a triplet is best. okay
00:17:094 (1) - I would remove the NC here so you get that X pattern with 4. NC on 00:17:366 (2) - instead. okay
00:35:094 (1) - Man, this could be a lot better symmetrically imo... anyways feel free to use this code if you want, made a quick edit:
45,277,35094,6,0,B|56:353|126:376|192:352|192:352|260:275|196:164|130:165|76:221|112:342|192:352|192:352|256:376|320:352|320:352|400:342|436:221|382:165|316:164|252:275|320:352|320:352|386:376|456:353|467:277,1,1275
this one looks a lot better than mine lololol thanks
00:48:594 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Any reason they aren't more symmetrical? it plays better

Avena's Ultra

00:15:457 (1,2) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical like your next two sliders. okay
01:22:549 (2,3,4,5,1) - The spaced stream feels quite forced in this section... can you do something less movement-intensive? nerfed the spacing

Hard

00:47:912 (2) - I actually think Ctrl+G flows better. Also creates a nice angle going into 00:47:912 (2,1) - . fixed
00:53:775 (1,2,3) - This part the song is kind of "quietting down" so imo using a 1/2 repeat would fit the intensity a bit better. You don't even map the 1/2's later on with 01:32:775 (1) - so its probably better to not make this so single-tap heavy anyways~fixed

Double starring this but get Maridius to bubble first~

Thanks for modding!!

MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-11-25T14:07:34+00:00

Rechecking for hitsounds and stuff

01:24:212 - can you snap this to 1/8 or something, i hate unsnapped stuff ;d

[Most diffs xd]
These are mostly just suggestions.

00:34:003 - Whistle here?
01:23:094 - 01:23:503 - 01:23:775 - Whistles
01:36:185 - 01:36:594 - 01:36:730 - Whistles
01:37:275 - to 01:37:821 - whistles on 1/2 intervals.

[terror]

01:16:821 (2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These are missing claps, you should use clap system here like you used 01:12:457 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1)
01:45:321 (2) - That's a sweet curve going through the stars in the background lol.

[avena]

01:39:866 (4,5,6) - 3stack is retarded, fix it pls ;d

[drop]

00:06:730 (1,1,1,1) - I think that you should unNC these because they are 3/4 compared to 00:08:912 (1,1,1) - which are 1/1 and have more space to hit. But imo I don't think NC spam is even necessary for any of the sliders, I believe grouping them in one combo would fit more.
01:05:366 (7) - missed a clap, same here 01:09:730 (7) -

[lcfc]
I don't it's okay to have no clap hitsounding when the song has loud snares tbh.

[hard]

00:39:457 (1,2,1,2) - It's a little bit weird here, since you only used clap once on one snare 00:41:094 - while the others can't be hitsounded, so I suggest remove it there too. 00:41:639 (1,2) - Next, I don't understand why these have claps, using whistle should be fitting and consistent with 00:40:821 (2) - imo.
01:17:366 (5,5) - claps here

[G.G]
We had this talk on mazare, you also used Claps that sound like Whistles in this map, I suggest using same claps as Regou is.

[neosl]

01:16:548 (1,2,3,4) - I don't get it why you all drop claps here.
01:37:139 - Not using this beat sounds really weird, 01:36:730 (2) - you can make this into two 1/2 sliders.

Check metadata with monstrata, he has some taiko set idk ;d

Gloria Guard

2,274 posts

Joined May 2011

Gloria Guard 2017-11-25T14:37:25+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
[G.G]
We had this talk on mazare, you also used Claps that sound like Whistles in this map, I suggest using same claps as Regou is.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wtf, i don't want to say this problem anyrmore. Changed

https://puu.sh/ytgX9/dfe2a0157c.zip <- osu file and changed some hitsound

Regou

1,927 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Regou 2017-11-26T10:08:48+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Rechecking for hitsounds and stuff

01:24:212 - can you snap this to 1/8 or something, i hate unsnapped stuff ;d

[Most diffs xd]
These are mostly just suggestions.
00:34:003 - Whistle here?
01:23:094 - 01:23:503 - 01:23:775 - Whistles
01:36:185 - 01:36:594 - 01:36:730 - Whistles
01:37:275 - to 01:37:821 - whistles on 1/2 intervals.
I prefer not to add them because it sounds too loud on these spots either because the music is too quiet or the bass kick hitsound is already very loud
[terror]
01:16:821 (2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These are missing claps, you should use clap system here like you used 01:12:457 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) seems like my hitsound copier bugged :/ fixed
01:45:321 (2) - That's a sweet curve going through the stars in the background lol. made it even cooler
[avena]
01:39:866 (4,5,6) - 3stack is retarded, fix it pls ;d fixed
[hard]
00:39:457 (1,2,1,2) - It's a little bit weird here, since you only used clap once on one snare 00:41:094 - while the others can't be hitsounded, so I suggest remove it there too. 00:41:639 (1,2) - Next, I don't understand why these have claps, using whistle should be fitting and consistent with 00:40:821 (2) - imo. they sounds good for me as they are following weak bass kick in the music
01:17:366 (5,5) - claps here fixed

Check metadata with monstrata, he has some taiko set idk ;d

tyty

MaridiuS wrote:
Rechecking for hitsounds and stuff

01:24:212 - can you snap this to 1/8 or something, i hate unsnapped stuff ;d fixed

[drop]
00:06:730 (1,1,1,1) - I think that you should unNC these because they are 3/4 compared to 00:08:912 (1,1,1) - which are 1/1 and have more space to hit. But imo I don't think NC spam is even necessary for any of the sliders, I believe grouping them in one combo would fit more. fixed
01:05:366 (7) - missed a clap, same here 01:09:730 (7) - i prefer not to add one it contrasts with the part afterwards better

[lcfc]
I don't it's okay to have no clap hitsounding when the song has loud snares tbh.
let's copy hitsound from avena's diff

Check metadata with monstrata, he has some taiko set idk ;d

toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-11-29T03:56:17+00:00

ill do the whistles at 01:23:094 - , they sound p neat
https://0paste.com/18642.txt

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2017-11-29T05:48:35+00:00

Really cool map!!

Affirmation

2,548 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-11-29T11:18:29+00:00

fixed all

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 46003
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:TRICKL4SH 220
TitleUnicode:TRICKL4SH 220
Artist:Lite Show Magic
ArtistUnicode:Lite Show Magic
Creator:Regou
Version:NeoSL's NORM4L
Source:SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN
Tags:don't waste me! e.p. c85 t+pazolite c-show [ Drop ] toybot LowComboFC Neoskylove Gloria Guard Priti Avena IntellectualBoy
BeatmapID:1310615
BeatmapSetID:616696

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3.6
CircleSize:3.3
OverallDifficulty:4.2
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Regou

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updated toybot and neosl's diff!!

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Monstrata 2017-12-05T08:40:13+00:00

qualified from an internet cafe

DeRandom Otaku

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Joined November 2014

DeRandom Otaku 2017-12-05T08:45:30+00:00

Grats!!!

Regou

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Topic Starter

Regou 2017-12-05T08:51:11+00:00

Thanks!!

sahuang

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sahuang 2017-12-05T09:42:28+00:00

Honestly speaking the map should be DQ'd because Avena should be translated to 4ven4, or 4vena if only upper cases are changed to 4

Regou

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Topic Starter

Regou 2017-12-05T10:04:26+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Honestly speaking the map should be DQ'd because Avena should be translated to 4ven4, or 4vena if only upper cases are changed to 4

current diff name actually works as well since none of the guest mapper's name got translated into numbers lol

Affirmation

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Affirmation 2017-12-06T02:10:36+00:00

lol Good job Regou, and thanks for rank my GD

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-12-06T05:48:58+00:00

tbh 01:27:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - why is this the only one that is a triangle =( all others are stars. it just stuck out a lot randomly cuz u have stars everywhere else, there's even a star jump later at 01:37:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - .

>.>

Avena

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Joined December 2012

Avena 2017-12-08T18:13:54+00:00

01:24:253 (1) - on my diff
wtf is this trash?????//

also 01:39:866 (4,5,6) - ???????????
00:42:185 (3,3) - missing hs

sighhhhhhhhhhhhh

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-10T00:24:56+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
tbh 01:27:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - why is this the only one that is a triangle =( all others are stars. it just stuck out a lot randomly cuz u have stars everywhere else, there's even a star jump later at 01:37:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - .

>.>

Yh I didn't get this either

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-12-10T02:46:10+00:00

^^

Hatsuhoshi

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Hatsuhoshi 2017-12-10T02:55:58+00:00

LOL Cool Map!