Erik McClure - DioSynth [Taiko] · forum

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2017-05-21T04:40:19+00:00

Voyage wrote:
[_yu68's Oni]
00:21:819 (91) - Change to k, percussion here is pretty prominent so making this note a Kat, would build off of the rhythm of the next Kat note at 00:21:969 (92). changed

Thanks~

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Ozu

647 posts

Joined July 2011

Ozu 2017-05-21T05:46:33+00:00

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[ General ]

i think this song has no symbol crash sound, so finisher at "shuuunnn" sound is better imo.

maybe you express the unity of some part like "ddk kkk kkk kdd"(1 2 2 3) but seems better "ddk kkk ddk ddd"(1 2 1 3) to me. (not applicated _yu68's diff)

[ Kantan ]

00:10:869 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - similar part with 00:15:669 (15,16,1,2,3,1) all over the sound but has no unity. ~~my poor suggestion is dkk dkd | dkk ddk.~~

00:20:469 (1) - K. before this circle, has "shuuuunnnn" sound. and this is the start of kiai, so emphasized looks better for me. like 00:39:669 (37) -.

00:22:869 (6,7,8,9) - sorry but i didn't understand what you wanna express in here. i think here is just an extension from 00:20:469 (1,2,3,4,5) - and no summative sound in here. i wanna fix like 00:32:469 (24,25,26,27) - .
00:27:669 (15,16,17,18) - ^

00:58:869 (64) - K? also have "shuunn" sound and for avoid same 4 kat.

modding from here, i think this song has no symbol crash sound, so finisher at "shuuunnn" sound is better imo. so i didn't write all of it.

01:18:069 (86) - slider means "full stream". i think it's not suitable to use slider in here. quite calm part. even muzukashii diff don't have any circle in here.

[ Futsuu ]

00:08:169 (8) - delete? seems un-need in futsuu imo.

00:12:969 (24,33,42,51) - you can delete these circles for more futsuu.

notes dense = from 00:49:269 (131) < from 00:54:069 (146) imo. maybe you can delete some notes from 00:49:269 (131) to 00:54:069 (146).

00:58:869 (161,162,163,164,165) - different pattern alone in this bookmark.

01:12:969 (195) - delete for rest time?
01:17:769 (207) - ^

01:18:069 (208) - same with kantan. (slider means "full stream". i think it's not suitable to use slider in here. quite calm part. even muzukashii diff don't have any circle in here.)

01:55:869 (4,5) - move to 01:55:569 ? for matching high pitch piano sound.

[ Muzukashii ]

00:21:144 (75) - maybe same with kantan? ( sorry but i didn't understand what you wanna express in here. i think here is just an extension from 00:20:469 and no summative sound in here.)

00:43:719 (200) - delete. continuing triple 1/4 seems so hard xp

01:24:069 (384) - delete? for unity to 01:24:069.

01:57:069 (533,534,535,536) - same opinion at 00:21:144

[ _yu68's Oni ]

01:03:819 (350) - delete? 00:59:019 - here is empty.

01:42:369 - from here, start big "pat!" sound (before "pat!" is small sound), so i think you can express more pattern from 01:42:069 (486) .

Good luck~

Aisha

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[ General ]

i think this song has no symbol crash sound, so finisher at "shuuunnn" sound is better imo. well that's true, there aren't strong sounds so I'm not overmapping so much using finishers . Also I don't think that sound deserves a big note (I got your 'shunnnnn' xD)

maybe you express the unity of some part like "ddk kkk kkk kdd"(1 2 2 3) but seems better "ddk kkk ddk ddd"(1 2 1 3) to me. (not applicated _yu68's diff) hmmmm yeah it's right, but not on all, I think i'm using more dinamicity on them

[ Kantan ]

00:10:869 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - similar part with 00:15:669 (15,16,1,2,3,1) all over the sound but has no unity. ~~my poor suggestion is dkk dkd | dkk ddk.~~ agreeing, changed 00:16:869 (1) - to k

00:20:469 (1) - K. before this circle, has "shuuuunnnn" sound. and this is the start of kiai, so emphasized looks better for me. like 00:39:669 (37) -. well I commented that above, I'm letting it for now , second one is louder imo

00:22:869 (6,7,8,9) - sorry but i didn't understand what you wanna express in here. i think here is just an extension from 00:20:469 (1,2,3,4,5) - and no summative sound in here. i wanna fix like 00:32:469 (24,25,26,27) - . well I followed drums here, so it's like using d d d and k k k but deleted the third note because it wasn't that important, also I want to give some different patterns here
00:27:669 (15,16,17,18) - ^ same, I'm getting consistent here aswell ^^

00:58:869 (64) - K? also have "shuunn" sound and for avoid same 4 kat. agreeing with this, this and the last note on kiai deserve big note imo

modding from here, i think this song has no symbol crash sound, so finisher at "shuuunnn" sound is better imo. so i didn't write all of it. 01:08:469 (76) - I changed this one aswell, I think it's the only one (also that comment above) that deserves a real finish

01:18:069 (86) - slider means "full stream". i think it's not suitable to use slider in here. quite calm part. even muzukashii diff don't have any circle in here. yeah I think you're right (I'm changing this on futsuu too, maybe it was overmapped

[ Futsuu ]

00:08:169 (8) - delete? seems un-need in futsuu imo. I'm holding because I think it's kind of neccesary to make section change notorious

00:12:969 (24,33,42,51) - you can delete these circles for more futsuu. Something similar as above, I think they're neccesary and makes this section not that bored, also I'm letting 2/1 breaks for making it Futsuu

notes dense = from 00:49:269 (131) < from 00:54:069 (146) imo. maybe you can delete some notes from 00:49:269 (131) to 00:54:069 (146). Also holding this section, I think this one isn't that hard and Futsuu players are going to familiarize with this kind of patterns

00:58:869 (161,162,163,164,165) - different pattern alone in this bookmark. yeah you're right, I changed it and made it consistent

01:12:969 (195) - delete for rest time?
01:17:769 (207) - ^ hmmm nah, I think both are fine since there's not a really slow part, real slow part start from 01:18:069 -

01:18:069 (208) - same with kantan. (slider means "full stream". i think it's not suitable to use slider in here. quite calm part. even muzukashii diff don't have any circle in here.) yes, I changed it ^^

01:55:869 (4,5) - move to 01:55:569 ? for matching high pitch piano sound. 01:56:169 (5) - I moved this one instead, since i'm following drums and not piano there

[ Muzukashii ]

00:21:144 (75) - maybe same with kantan? ( sorry but i didn't understand what you wanna express in here. i think here is just an extension from 00:20:469 and no summative sound in here.) well same comment as Kantan, I'm leaving it because i'm following drums here and that makes it fun imo

00:43:719 (200) - delete. continuing triple 1/4 seems so hard xp I think if I delete it seems like a section change (and there isn't), I'm leaving it for now ^^

01:24:069 (384) - delete? for unity to 01:24:069. well I'm sure you wanted to say 01:19:269 - this xD, but it's fine, I deleted it, sounds better

01:57:069 (533,534,535,536) - same opinion at 00:21:144 same comment ^^

Good luck~

Thanks for modding acc (also I modded yours already ^^)!

[R]

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[R] 2017-05-21T20:30:23+00:00

yo

[yumuya Oni]
00:15:069 (46,47,48,49) - d kdk change ddd k, it will emphasize 00:15:369 -
00:46:119 - change don ?? low pitch than 00:41:319 -
01:46:419 - add note ?

[Inner Oni]
00:16:119 - change don to emphasize 00:16:269 -
00:20:619 - | 00:20:919 - change don, it will fit with instrument
00:25:794 - change don?? it's bit hard to hit
00:26:169 - change kat ??
00:29:544 - change kat ??
01:02:919 - change don to emphasize 01:03:069 -
01:03:519 (454,455,456) - kdk change kkd
01:41:919 (647,648,649,650) - dkkd change kddk and 01:42:669 - move 01:42:519 -

well maybe just that from me
good luck

Aisha

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[R] wrote:
yo hai!

[Inner Oni]
00:16:119 - change don to emphasize 00:16:269 - not sure here tbh, I'd leave it for now, but I think that sounds doesn't matter at all considering there's not pitch change and also to make some difference about other patterns
00:20:619 - | 00:20:919 - change don, it will fit with instrument mmnah D: current ones fills better imo
00:25:794 - change don?? it's bit hard to hit same as above, it's descendant sound :c
00:26:169 - change kat ?? true, changed
00:29:544 - change kat ?? I'm most focusing on drums here so I'd keep this one, also it's increasing sound
01:02:919 - change don to emphasize 01:03:069 - true sounds better and have consistency with 01:00:219 (433,434,435,436,437) -
01:03:519 (454,455,456) - kdk change kkd it's an ascendant sound so it shouldn't finish on d imo
01:41:919 (647,648,649,650) - dkkd change kddk and 01:42:669 - move 01:42:519 - I'm currently following drums here instead high sound so it's fine imo (that's cause I used triplets tho)

well maybe just that from me
good luck

thanks for modding R!

Shyguy

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Shyguy 2017-05-22T00:58:00+00:00

Yo! I skipped over just about everything besides the Inner Oni because the other difficulties felt fine to me. I did talk about some spinner stuff on the other diffs in IRC, but I'll put the same suggestions I made there over here as well.

Muzukashiii

02:15:669 - Delete this kat and move the spinner to the white line?

_yu68's Oni

02:15:669 - On all the other difficulties, this spinner ends at the last green line. You could either extend the spinner or delete the unneeded line.

Inner Oni

00:17:619 - This dkkkd feels out of place to me given that there's no pattern in the map beforehand that feels like this. I would either change this to a ddkkd pattern both for better flow and to mirror the pattern at 00:16:869.

00:25:794 - I would delete this pattern and make it a dk doublet, and then add a kat at 00:28:644. This kkkd doesn't show up at all on the second loop of this part, and on top of that, I think it just feels weird to play.

01:41:919 to 01:45:369 - On the section before this one you were mapping to the piano, but in this section the piano isn't map at all. I feel like you could map to the drums while also mapping to the piano to make the map play more interestingly.

02:05:469 - Make this ddddkdk? It's how you mapped this at the first loop, and in my opinion, it feels better than the dkdkkdk you have here. You could also try dkddkdk if you want a pattern that's different than the last one as well.

02:15:069 - Instead of dkdkkdddk, try dkddkkddk? Or alternatively, try that thing that kdddkkd I talked about in IRC so you can make the spinner start on the same tick like the other diffs do (I know you're waiting on a BAT for that suggestion, lol.)

Aisha

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Shyguy wrote:
Yo! I skipped over just about everything besides the Inner Oni because the other difficulties felt fine to me. I did talk about some spinner stuff on the other diffs in IRC, but I'll put the same suggestions I made there over here as well. yeah we discussed about that by irc

Muzukashiii
02:15:669 - Delete this kat and move the spinner to the white line? done boyy

Inner Oni
00:17:619 - This dkkkd feels out of place to me given that there's no pattern in the map beforehand that feels like this. I would either change this to a ddkkd pattern both for better flow and to mirror the pattern at 00:16:869. yeah you're right, it came a little sudden,
but also I think last one was kinda fine :3

00:25:794 - I would delete this pattern and make it a dk doublet, and then add a kat at 00:28:644. This kkkd doesn't show up at all on the second loop of this part, and on top of that, I think it just feels weird to play. hmm I'm not totally sure about this, I think this makes it more dynamic and funny. Also it's kind of strange to have a consistency with next section cuz there's changing (00:27:669 - ). Still open to any other comment :p. Also 00:23:694 (126,127,128,129) - this could be a nice quarter to not make this so sudden

01:41:919 to 01:45:369 - On the section before this one you were mapping to the piano, but in this section the piano isn't map at all. I feel like you could map to the drums while also mapping to the piano to make the map play more interestingly. yeah I'm really doubting about this, I need to ask if this is allowed. But isn't that hard to read I think (and yeah, I mapped piano then drum)

02:05:469 - Make this ddddkdk? It's how you mapped this at the first loop, and in my opinion, it feels better than the dkdkkdk you have here. You could also try dkddkdk if you want a pattern that's different than the last one as well. well considering 02:05:769 (846,848) - are main pitches (kat) I think this pattern gives more dinamicity it's even funnier

02:15:069 - Instead of dkdkkdddk, try dkddkkddk? Or alternatively, try that thing that kdddkkd I talked about in IRC so you can make the spinner start on the same tick like the other diffs do (I know you're waiting on a BAT for that suggestion, lol.) yeah I'm using your suggestion same on every diffs ty for suggesting it

thanks shy! also thanks for irc conversation and suggestions about the map

Akemi_Homura

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Akemi_Homura 2017-05-23T16:45:30+00:00

Hi~ M4M request~! sorry for late.
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat

[General]

00:10:863 - Unsnapped timing.(All diff.)

[Kantan]

Seem fine for me. Nice job~! :3

[Futsuu]

00:09:969 (14, 15) - swap this so kd.((14) is same sound with (10), (12). so I think (14) should be k.)
00:12:519 (22) - change to k~? (pitch is higher than (23).)
00:17:319 (40) - change to k. (same reason.)
00:20:169 (51) - how about change to k~? (pitch is higher than (50). so kk is better imo.)
00:24:969 (65) - change to d~? (pitch is downward.)
00:32:769 (89, 90) - swap this~? ((89) has highest pitch in this part.)
00:37:569 - change to k~?(I feel little awkward about this dddd. because there is so many pitch changed this part. I think pitch is highest in 00:37:569, but dddk is acceptable for consistency with 00:33:069.)
01:03:219 - how about add note here~? (consistent with 01:08:019. I think making a same structure is better.)
02:00:969 (21) - change to d.(same with 00:24:969. pitch is downward.)
02:08:769 (47, 48) - swap this.(same thing.)
02:13:569 - same thing with 00:37:569. maybe we can change this to k.

[Muzukashii]

00:35:469 (156, 157, 158, 159, 160) - how about change to dkdkk~?(I think It's a same part with (142)~(146). so we can reverse pattern this part for better flow and consistency.)
00:51:369 (239) - change to k.(for express different pitch and better flow.)
00:56:169 (267) - same suggestion. change to k.
01:00:819 (293) - move to 01:00:969.(it's a same sound with 01:05:769. so I think this change more fit to music.)
01:59:694 - add note here (for consistent with 01:57:294.I feel it's better flow in playing.:3)
02:04:494 - add note here~? (consistent with 02:02:094.)

[_yu68's Oni]

01:18:069 (417) - how about add finisher here~?(I think It's match with next burst sound.)
01:46:419 - add d here~? (same drum sound with 01:46:494.)

[Inner Oni]

Fine.

I think it's nice map already. :3
hope this ranked soon~!
GL~ ><

Aisha

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Akemi_Homura wrote:
Hi~ M4M request~! sorry for late.
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.
it's all right !

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat

[General]
00:10:863 - Unsnapped timing.(All diff.)
wtf this, I've fixed it around 3 times... hope this time it gets fixed zzz, ty anyways

[Kantan]
Seem fine for me. Nice job~! :3
thanks!

[Futsuu]
00:09:969 (14, 15) - swap this so kd.((14) is same sound with (10), (12). so I think (14) should be k.) applied^^
00:12:519 (22) - change to k~? (pitch is higher than (23).) already did
00:17:319 (40) - change to k. (same reason.) same
00:20:169 (51) - how about change to k~? (pitch is higher than (50). so kk is better imo.) same
00:24:969 (65) - change to d~? (pitch is downward.) same
00:32:769 (89, 90) - swap this~? ((89) has highest pitch in this part.) already made kkk here :c
00:37:569 - change to k~?(I feel little awkward about this dddd. because there is so many pitch changed this part. I think pitch is highest in 00:37:569, but dddk is acceptable for consistency with 00:33:069.) sames as above
01:03:219 - how about add note here~? (consistent with 01:08:019. I think making a same structure is better.) hmmm I preffer a break here ^^
02:00:969 (21) - change to d.(same with 00:24:969. pitch is downward.) same comment xD
02:08:769 (47, 48) - swap this.(same thing.) yeah right, made d d k instead d k k
02:13:569 - same thing with 00:37:569. maybe we can change this to k. already did ^^

[Muzukashii]
00:35:469 (156, 157, 158, 159, 160) - how about change to dkdkk~?(I think It's a same part with (142)~(146). so we can reverse pattern this part for better flow and consistency.) well since I've changed this to doubles kind applied your suggestion and made k d k k
00:51:369 (239) - change to k.(for express different pitch and better flow.) I think this doesn't deserve a high note, it's really low imo
00:56:169 (267) - same suggestion. change to k. same comment
01:00:819 (293) - move to 01:00:969.(it's a same sound with 01:05:769. so I think this change more fit to music.) I made doubles here and I think i'm gonna leave them ^^
01:59:694 - add note here (for consistent with 01:57:294.I feel it's better flow in playing.:3) yeah I've tried it aswell, but I think I should follow this 01:59:469 - 01:59:769 - notes better and if I made doubles it doesn't fill good
02:04:494 - add note here~? (consistent with 02:02:094.) same comment as above

[Inner Oni]
Fine.
thanks !

I think it's nice map already. :3
hope this ranked soon~!
GL~ ><

Your mod was really helpful, so I've remapped it around 2 hours ago (before answering your comments) so I've did almost every of them (they were completely right).
Really thanks for modding and glad you liked it ! And really thanks for start too :3
Also, I want to point I've removed hitsounds due to lot of comments about'em xD
^ I've remapped Futsuu and Muzu and tried to make a better gap between them. Little changes on Kantan aswell.

Glaceon-

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Glaceon- 2017-05-24T04:54:08+00:00

Hopefully this helps sorry if its short

Inner Oni

SPOILER

00:15:969 (60) - it sounds better starting with Don than Kat

00:36:594 (246) - Don, <<<

00:36:819 (248) - Kat, <<<

00:36:894 (249) - Don, to me these 3 changes sounds way better but its up to you

Muzukashii

SPOILER

00:31:944(120) remove

[Optional] >>> 00:34:269 (132,133,134) - change to Kat, 00:34:569 (135) - change to Don <<<

01:08:019 (301,302,303) - sounds weird with a triple here

Aisha

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[-TSG-] wrote:
Hopefully this helps sorry if its short hi shiny! it's fine

Inner Oni
SPOILER
00:15:969 (60) - it sounds better starting with Don than Kat true! changed all of them

00:36:594 (246) - Don, <<< I'm applying only this one

00:36:819 (248) - Kat, <<< I think current pattern is better

00:36:894 (249) - Don, to me these 3 changes sounds way better but its up to you same

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:31:944(120) remove leaving it, it's nice for descendant sound

[Optional] >>> 00:34:269 (132,133,134) - change to Kat, 00:34:569 (135) - change to Don <<< sounds nice cuz next section is higher

01:08:019 (301,302,303) - sounds weird with a triple here yeah, true changed to 1/2 notes

short but still nice, thanks glaceon for this

!

Nishizumi

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Nishizumi 2017-05-24T08:30:58+00:00

hey o/ this is my mod but it hasn't finished. but hope my mod helpful

[Inner Oni]

00:11:619 (25,26) - swap these, on (26) the sound has same melody like (23),(24). also consistent to 00:14:019 -
00:16:569 - kat here? same as above
00:18:969 - ^
00:20:469 - you could give an emphasize with finisher here
00:25:569 - make the same like 00:20:769 - please. this seems inconsistent with other 2plets like, the 2plet should be start from 00:25:869
00:39:669 - you could give an emphasize this like like 00:20:469 -
00:42:744 - delete this, looks overstream(?). i mean you should make easier on the quiet part.
00:42:969 - change to kat and delete at 00:43:119 -, as i said this is quiet part so give a bit break here would be good
00:43:344 - same as 00:43:744 - this triplet is unnecessary
00:43:569 - change to kat here, snare sound
00:43:944 - delete this? 5 plet is kinda....unnecessary on this part
00:47:319 - delete this ? for a bit break
00:47:469 - start from this to 00:48:969 - nerf please. like 5plet reduce to triplet, and delete dkd triplet
my suggestion is d-kdk-d-d-d-k-d-k-kkd (from 00:47:669 - to 00:48:969 - with 1/4 beatsnap)
00:50:469 - i think this 2plet is "forced", it doesn't even fit to the music. better to change to k ddk
00:51:669 - same as above, better to change to d kkd. and two previous note is kat
00:52:869 - same as above, better to change to k ddd
00:55:269 - same as above, better to change to k ddd
00:56:469 - ^, better to change to k kkd
00:57:069 - 00:57:669 - ^, k ddd
00:58:644 - delete this, unnecessary
01:03:519 - better to change to kkd, more fit to the music
01:05:769 - change to only 1/2 snap please, this is overstream(?)
01:07:869 - ^
01:08:469 - and other 40% volume greenlines, it doesn't need to change to decrease the volume since the volume with 50% is same. increase to 50%
01:27:669 - this sv change looks not smooth, better to decrease to 0.85x
01:32:469 - to 01:37:269 - make only triplet please, no 5plet or more. the gap notes between 01:27:669 - and 01:32:469 - although the music is similar
01:51:519 - delete this to give a bit break,because start from 01:46:269 - there isn't a little break until the end
01:56:233 (754,755) - delete these notes to give a bit break towards kiai and change 753 to kat to emphasize the contrast color

will continue on tomorrow (maybe) :/

Aisha

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hey o/ this is my mod but it hasn't finished. but hope my mod helpful hi nishi !

[Inner Oni]

00:11:619 (25,26) - swap these, on (26) the sound has same melody like (23),(24). also consistent to 00:14:019 - I'm holding the current one bc I think 1st and 3rd 8/1 (00:11:469 (24,25,26) - and 00:16:269 (63,64,65) -) have the same melody. 00:13:869 (43,44,45) - and this is having consistency with 00:18:669 (83,84,85) -
00:16:569 - kat here? same as above yeah applied this as above
00:18:969 - ^ holding this to dinamicity (don' want 4 kkk's on this section, so kkk kkd kkk kkd is fine imo)
00:20:469 - you could give an emphasize with finisher herelol applied I've did that on other diffs zz
00:25:569 - make the same like 00:20:769 - please. this seems inconsistent with other 2plets like, the 2plet should be start from 00:25:869 fixed as I told by irc xD
00:39:669 - you could give an emphasize this like like 00:20:469 - I think sounds and pitches are really different, first one is low and doesn't deserve big note imo
00:42:744 - delete this, looks overstream(?). i mean you should make easier on the quiet part. true, is more quiet than I thought xD
00:42:969 - change to kat and delete at 00:43:119 -, as i said this is quiet part so give a bit break here would be good I pref changing kat this one: 00:42:819 (297) - sounds even better and yeah, made the break
00:43:344 - same as 00:43:744 - this triplet is unnecessary hmmm yeah probably, but isn't bad imo cause it gives a good descendant sound, I'll leave it for now
00:43:569 - change to kat here, snare sound applied~
00:43:944 - delete this? 5 plet is kinda....unnecessary on this part same reason as above, also it's a good way to keep players not getting bored (also isn't the lowest part in the song)
00:47:319 - delete this ? for a bit break break here is enough I think 00:47:769 -
00:47:469 - start from this to 00:48:969 - nerf please. like 5plet reduce to triplet, and delete dkd triplet
my suggestion is d-kdk-d-d-d-k-d-k-kkd (from 00:47:669 - to 00:48:969 - with 1/4 beatsnap) well I've tried your suggestion lot of times and I think it can rest consistency with 00:43:269 - and considering there's a section change (and break after these notes) there shouldn't be problem about using some quintuple D:
00:50:469 - i think this 2plet is "forced", it doesn't even fit to the music. better to change to k ddk yeah probably kinda forced, but I think there's not a neccesary pitch on 00:50:619 - to get follow so I think current doubles are fine here
00:51:669 - same as above, better to change to d kkd. and two previous note is kat yeah here you're right, these doubles completely doesn't fill... it's different than the doubles that I mentioned above
00:52:869 - same as above, better to change to k ddd
00:55:269 - same as above, better to change to k ddd well I'm holding the current doubles for same reason that I did on last comment about first doubles
00:56:469 - ^, better to change to k kkd yeah, also changed the last note to don for emphasis
00:57:069 - 00:57:669 - ^, k ddd I pref moving 00:57:744 (409) - to 00:57:819 (409) - to hold a consistency about doubles from 00:55:269 (388,389,390,391) -
00:58:644 - delete this, unnecessary you're right, deleted the don
01:03:519 - better to change to kkd, more fit to the music again :3
01:05:769 - change to only 1/2 snap please, this is overstream(?) I currently deleted only 01:05:844 (462) - cuz on this section 01:05:919 (462,463,464) - you can hear a background music also made the triplet ddd
01:07:869 - ^ yeah now I'm applying completely you said, there's not any sound to use quintuple
01:08:469 - and other 40% volume greenlines, it doesn't need to change to decrease the volume since the volume with 50% is same. increase to 50% not totally sure about this, I think current 40% are fine considering it's slower and slightly lower than part before, for now I'm leaving but open to any other comment
01:27:669 - this sv change looks not smooth, better to decrease to 0.85x yeah I was about to do this xD
01:32:469 - to 01:37:269 - make only triplet please, no 5plet or more. the gap notes between 01:27:669 - and 01:32:469 - although the music is similar well I just didn't delete 01:34:419 (589,590,591,592,593) - to make it a little more interesting, but did only triples on other parts :3
01:51:519 - delete this to give a bit break,because start from 01:46:269 - there isn't a little break until the end I think it can cut so much the flow between the song and imo notes before kiai are neccesary. Also Inner players should be familiarized with 30 seconds of notes I think
01:56:233 (754,755) - delete these notes to give a bit break towards kiai and change 753 to kat to emphasize the contrast color same reason as above, but made the triplet kkk

will continue on tomorrow (maybe) :/

thanks nishi! waiting for your next comments, helpful mod about consistency and pitches stuff ^^

Peach_Tea

52 posts

Joined January 2015

Peach_Tea 2017-05-26T11:18:31+00:00

hi~
from game chat

_yu68's Oni

00:32:919 (172) - change to k? kの方が音合ってるかなーと思いました。
02:08:919 (649) - ここも同様にchange to k
全体的にバランスが良くていい譜面だったので指摘があまりできませんでした。すみません。
かなり良譜面なのでランクドいけると思います、頑張ってください。

Inner Oni

00:16:719 (67) - change to k
00:27:819 (165) - change to k (I think It's match with sound)
00:54:369 (381) - change to k (I think It's match with sound)
01:13:269 (500) - change to d (I think It's match with sound)
01:51:144 (698) - change to d (I think It's match with sound)
02:13:419 (902) - change to k (I think It's match with sound)

Good Map:3 I think this map is ranked soon.
GL~

Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-05-27T04:00:37+00:00

Hi~

[Muzukashii]
・00:36:069 (142) - d

・01:32:319 - add d?

[Inner Oni]
・02:15:519 (922) - k

noob mod sorry

good luck!

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-05-27T04:29:59+00:00

agreeing
notsure/nottotally/comments
notagreeing

Plat wrote:
hi~ hi!
from game chat

Inner Oni
00:16:719 (67) - change to k hmm holding the current one, fills better cuz pitch
00:27:819 (165) - change to k (I think It's match with sound) true, also consistency with last 3 4/1's xD
00:54:369 (381) - change to k (I think It's match with sound) same
01:13:269 (500) - change to d (I think It's match with sound) hmm I think current ddk is better and kat here gives a better emphasis on new section
01:51:144 (698) - change to d (I think It's match with sound) hmm nah, I already did ddddk pattern on 01:49:869 (686,687,688,689,690) - and I don't want to repeat it :c
02:13:419 (902) - change to k (I think It's match with sound) you're right, same as above

Good Map:3 I think this map is ranked soon.
GL~

Thank you for modding and good wishes boy!

D

Y O U T A wrote:
Hi~

[Muzukashii]
・00:36:069 (142) - d done!

・01:32:319 - add d? added too nice point

[Inner Oni]
・02:15:519 (922) - k hmm I'm holding don cuz I think there's a low sound on 02:15:519 and the large note starts on 02:15:669 -

noob mod sorry nahh still helpful ^^

good luck!

thank you youta too

thanks you two boys :3

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2017-05-28T09:19:01+00:00

Sorry for late

404 AccNotFound wrote:
[ _yu68's Oni ]

01:03:819 (350) - delete? 00:59:019 - here is empty. I'm putting d to increase density from 00:59:019 - .

01:42:369 - from here, start big "pat!" sound (before "pat!" is small sound), so i think you can express more pattern from 01:42:069 (486) . moved 01:42:969 - to there.

[R] wrote:
[yumuya Oni]
00:15:069 (46,47,48,49) - d kdk change ddd k, it will emphasize 00:15:369 - I want to unify the end point of 1/4 triplets to white ticks in this part.
00:46:119 - change don ?? low pitch than 00:41:319 - changed
01:46:419 - add note ? putted "k_k_d_ddk" pattern from 01:45:969 -

Shyguy wrote:
_yu68's Oni
02:15:669 - On all the other difficulties, this spinner ends at the last green line. You could either extend the spinner or delete the unneeded line. fixed

Akemi_Homura wrote:
[_yu68's Oni]
01:18:069 (417) - how about add finisher here~?(I think It's match with next burst sound.) I think finisher isn't necessary because here is calmer part.
01:46:419 - add d here~? (same drum sound with 01:46:494.) added

Plat wrote:
_yu68's Oni
00:32:919 (172) - change to k? kの方が音合ってるかなーと思いました。 changed
02:08:919 (649) - ここも同様にchange to k changed
全体的にバランスが良くていい譜面だったので指摘があまりできませんでした。すみません。
かなり良譜面なのでランクドいけると思います、頑張ってください。ありがとうございます :3

Thanks a lot! I applied some suggestions.

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Aisha

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Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-05-30T00:29:24+00:00

_yu68 wrote:

Sorry for late

Thanks a lot! I applied some suggestions.

.osu

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Ladies Night

297 posts

Joined November 2013

Ladies Night 2017-06-01T03:28:58+00:00

Did a little oops for the Metadata part of my mod, replace Trance with Techno in tags. Got both of the genres mixed up somehow since it should actually be Techno from what the artist said.

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-01T04:18:07+00:00

Voyage wrote:
Did a little oops for the Metadata part of my mod, replace Trance with Techno in tags. Got both of the genres mixed up somehow since it should actually be Techno from what the artist said.

Fixed and updated! Thanks for coming back ~

Zpmzpm

85 posts

Joined August 2015

Zpmzpm 2017-06-03T10:23:54+00:00

Hey, nice map
modding this with library computer atm

[Kantan]
Well pulled off. Can't find any problems here.

[Futsuu]
Spread between Kantan and Futsuu is rather large. The entire Normal diff is skipped

Should be nerf a significant amount
I noticed in this 200bpm map you've still used a fair amount of 1/2s, these could get a nerf, think about it as 100bpm 1/4s
Also there are some places that uses too much 1/1s at the same time and not much 2/1 spacings.
00:07:869 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - 9 at a time is too much I think
some kiai parts
etc etc
Good map overall, just needs a bit of tweaking on the difficulty.
[Muzukashii]
Following drums mostly, no problem here.
[_yuOni]
The part after first kiai has some weird spacing
just sounds really weird when played.
00:43:269 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245) - this is pretty awkward imo, something like a kkd 1/4 thing after the last note would feel much better (fill up 245 to 246)
00:49:269 (267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - could fill up gaps, this is Oni, not Muzu.
[Inner]
Seems good to me.
Nice map, hope it gets ranked soon

HomieLove

Beatmap Nominator

306 posts

Joined July 2016

HomieLove 2017-06-03T15:23:22+00:00

Hello, here's my mod as you requested in-game~

DIOOOOOOOOO

General:

Current BG resolution is 1228x767, which should definitely be changed. I suggest getting a BG with a resolution of 1366x768, 1920x1080 or 1920x1200.

Tags: You can remove Blackhole from the tags, Blackhole12 automically triggers Blackhole when you search for it.

taiko-soft-hitclap.wav and taiko-soft-hitnormal.wav are unused, did something happen with the recent update? If you don't want to use them, remove them from your song folder and make sure to adjust audio volume on all diffs, otherwise set Hitsound sample on all diffs from N → S:C1.

OD Spread: The current spread feels a bit odd with Oni and Inner Oni having the exact same settings. As a suggestion: 4 – 4.5 – 5 – 5.5 – 6
Though before you change anything, ask yumuya if he's okay with it.
Same goes for the HP Spread: I believe 8 is a bit high on Kantan due to the song's length, so you can try out something like this: 7 – 6 – 5 – 5.5 – 6
Again, if you consider changing something here you should get the green flag from yumuya.

[]

So. I've looked at the lower difficulties, and I figured they need major work, especially Futsuu and Muzu. Let me just point out some things so you get the idea:

Kantan: You can set the SV to 1.4x on both Kantan and Futsuu, even on this BPM it is perfectly readable. I can understand if you want to keep it on Kantan, though.

Futsuu: Even if you don't want to use 1.4x SV on Kantan, please use it on Futsuu at least.
Looking at the Kiais here, I see you're mapping the melody by varying between kat and don on each downbeat continously. 00:20:469 (36) - starts off as kat, 00:22:869 (46) - as don. And so on.
I can understand the concept here, but keep in mind that this doesn't follow the spread at all. On any other difficulty, you always map the downbeat I mentioned as don, and I do believe you should do the same on this diff. The same applies for the second Kiai, of course.

00:39:669 - to 00:49:269 - seems odd to me honestly, I can't tell if you're mapping to the drumset or the melody. Please let me know which one is the case.

01:27:669 - to 01:32:469 -(?) why is this mapped this differently than 00:06:069 - to 00:10:869 -? There are exactly the same drumsounds / rhythm, I see no justification to do something much less dense here. After all, both parts are equally calm/intense, right?

01:46:869 - To keep a better spread with Muzu, either add notes here so the buildup is actually noticeable, or delete some notes on Muzu. As it is now, the spike is way too large imo.

Muzukashii: Woah there, the 1/4 patterns are way too complicated for this difficulty. Muzus are meant to introduce players to 1/4 rhythms and therefore patterns should be simple like ddd and kkk, just like you mapped them in the first Kiai. I'm perfectly fine with that. However, the second Kiai needs major rework! Each triplet which is not monocolour is questionable in itself for this diff, but combining all of them, you need to remap this part in order to make it rankable. By the way, I get the idea of these kkk triplets standing there alone, but they look clumsy. Please do something about them as well.

Inner Oni:
01:08:319 - Add a green line with 0.95x SV to avoid ugly overlaps.

Okay, that's it for now. Call me back once you did rework on the spread (especially on the lower diffs), I feel there's too much to do in its current state.

Aisha

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Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-03T16:49:09+00:00

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Zpmzpm wrote:
Hey, nice map hi boy :3
modding this with library computer atm

[Kantan]
Well pulled off. Can't find any problems here.
proud to read :3

[Futsuu]
Spread between Kantan and Futsuu is rather large. The entire Normal diff is skipped
Should be nerf a significant amount
I noticed in this 200bpm map you've still used a fair amount of 1/2s, these could get a nerf, think about it as 100bpm 1/4s
Also there are some places that uses too much 1/1s at the same time and not much 2/1 spacings.
I did it on purpose, there are a lot of 2/1 spaces tbh (even on kiai). About spread I think it's balanced between Kantan<<Futsuu<<Muzu :3
00:07:869 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - 9 at a time is too much I think that's right; dense and not senseful: deleted 00:09:369 (12) -
some kiai parts
etc etc
Good map overall, just needs a bit of tweaking on the difficulty.
Took a look again and I think currently one is fine talking about 2/1 spacing and stuff, also spread is good about objects and SR (around ~1 each diff)

[Muzukashii]
Following drums mostly, no problem here.

[Inner]
Seems good to me.
Nice map, hope it gets ranked soon

Proud to read your mod ^^ I will try and thanks!

Greenshell wrote:
Hello, here's my mod as you requested in-game~

DIOOOOOOOOO
General:

Current BG resolution is 1228x767, which should definitely be changed. I suggest getting a BG with a resolution of 1366x768, 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. Wow wtf is this. I've applied Voyage's mod and changed to 1920x1200 xD anyways fixed

Tags: You can remove Blackhole from the tags, Blackhole12 automically triggers Blackhole when you search for it. As I've ask about this you can't search the song by typing Blackhole on the website so I'll let it be

taiko-soft-hitclap.wav and taiko-soft-hitnormal.wav are unused, did something happen with the recent update? If you don't want to use them, remove them from your song folder and make sure to adjust audio volume on all diffs, otherwise set Hitsound sample on all diffs from N → S:C1. Oh I think you got an older version. I've removed them around one week ago (notified on song description)

OD Spread: The current spread feels a bit odd with Oni and Inner Oni having the exact same settings. As a suggestion: 4 – 4.5 – 5 – 5.5 – 6
Though before you change anything, ask yumuya if he's okay with it.
Same goes for the HP Spread: I believe 8 is a bit high on Kantan due to the song's length, so you can try out something like this: 7 – 6 – 5 – 5.5 – 6
Again, if you consider changing something here you should get the green flag from yumuya.
Well tbh I did it kind of on purpose. I will think twice about Inner HP and that's all

[]

So. I've looked at the lower difficulties, and I figured they need major work, especially Futsuu and Muzu. Let me just point out some things so you get the idea:

Kantan: You can set the SV to 1.4x on both Kantan and Futsuu, even on this BPM it is perfectly readable. I can understand if you want to keep it on Kantan, though.

Futsuu: Even if you don't want to use 1.4x SV on Kantan, please use it on Futsuu at least.

I think both difficulties should have same SV. 200bpm isn't easy to read for newer players imo
Looking at the Kiais here, I see you're mapping the melody by varying between kat and don on each downbeat continously. 00:20:469 (36) - starts off as kat, 00:22:869 (46) - as don. And so on. First one has descendant melody and second one has ascendant one so I think starting with them makes it more interesting considering it's kiai
I can understand the concept here, but keep in mind that this doesn't follow the spread at all. On any other difficulty, you always map the downbeat I mentioned as don, and I do believe you should do the same on this diff. The same applies for the second Kiai, of course. Difficulties mustn't be the same talking about what sound I map :3

00:39:669 - to 00:49:269 - seems odd to me honestly, I can't tell if you're mapping to the drumset or the melody. Please let me know which one is the case.
Drum here, you can hear notice the break on 00:40:269 - (and along the section too)

01:27:669 - to 01:32:469 -(?) why is this mapped this differently than 00:06:069 - to 00:10:869 -? There are exactly the same drumsounds / rhythm, I see no justification to do something much less dense here. After all, both parts are equally calm/intense, right? Well I'm sure I did it about dinamicity but you're totally right, fixed it ^^

01:46:869 - To keep a better spread with Muzu, either add notes here so the buildup is actually noticeable, or delete some notes on Muzu. As it is now, the spike is way too large imo. holding it as I told above ^^

Muzukashii: Woah there, the 1/4 patterns are way too complicated for this difficulty. Muzus are meant to introduce players to 1/4 rhythms and therefore patterns should be simple like ddd and kkk, just like you mapped them in the first Kiai. I'm perfectly fine with that. However, the second Kiai needs major rework! Each triplet which is not monocolour is questionable in itself for this diff, but combining all of them, you need to remap this part in order to make it rankable. By the way, I get the idea of these kkk triplets standing there alone, but they look clumsy. Please do something about them as well. Well I just deleted 2 notes. Kiai are supposed to be more harder than rest of the song. Playing muzu is about getting more hard triples through the mapset difficulties so I thnk I'm holding most of them since kdk dkd ddk and kkd are allowed until they're not mixed with other triples on any part of the song

Inner Oni:
01:08:319 - Add a green line with 0.95x SV to avoid ugly overlaps. Right! Started from 01:07:869 - using -0.02 SV til 0,9
Okay, that's it for now. Call me back once you did rework on the spread (especially on the lower diffs), I feel there's too much to do in its current state.

Thanks for modding! I holded most of comments since spread is currently fine (imo ofc) ^^

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2017-06-04T14:16:40+00:00

lol

[Inner Oni]
00:17:619 (75,76,77,78,79) - this seems can be modified with a bit better sequence, try kddkk, since 00:17:769 (77,80) - are the same sound.

[muzukahsii]
01:02:169 (261) - d for consistency with 01:06:969 (287) - .
01:58:869 (452,453,454,455,456,457) - d kkk k d for better consistency with previous pattern.
02:00:219 (460,461,462) - i dont recommend dkd in muzukashii, but it's up on you.
02:07:869 (503,504,505) - ^

i dont have idea what should i mod tho lol nice diff .
and the other diff are fine for me

HomieLove

Beatmap Nominator

306 posts

Joined July 2016

HomieLove 2017-06-04T19:00:55+00:00

Follow-up of the previous mod now that you replied, no kds. Remember that these are only suggestions, feel free to reject everything if you don't like them.

DIOOOOOOOOO #2

d / don = Don Note
D / Don = Don Finish
k / kat = Katsu Note
K / Kat = Katsu Finish
abekobe = d → k / k → d

General:

Shouldn't the first Kiai have audio volume of 80% like the second? Or 80% for first and 90% for second Kiai?

~~I miss the hitsounds orz~~

[Kantan]

00:08:769 – To make up a better spread with Futsuu, either add a note here or delete some in Futsuu.

00:39:369 (57,58) – CTRL+G these notes to keep the abekobe (reversed color) consistent with the rest of the Kiai?

00:43:269 (63,64) – Try changing these 2 notes to kats? With this, you can give better impact on the descending pitch on 00:43:869 (65) – (which is apparently 1/2 but you can't map it as such), and you have a nice abekobe with 00:48:069 (70,71,72) -. As an alternative: For the first mentioned triplet, try dkd, and for the second one kdk. With this, you can complement the peak of the synth pitch on 00:48:069 (70) – better while still maintaining the abekobe which appears quite often in this diff.

00:55:269 (81) - could be d, this is supported by the drumset having the snare on the next tick, it gives more impact on 00:55:569 (82) - regarding the pitch and creates slight pattern variety to 00:57:669 (85,86,87) -.

01:12:969 - I would've expected something like a 1/1 triplet here, since any other diff does something which stands out from the rest of the stanza here, but that is just a minor thing.

01:30:669 (118) – change this to kat to match the pitch and for a bit of variety in coloring?

Not a fan of the structure in second Kiai, you're breaking up the abekobe-ish (wow how many times did I say this word now lol) structure completely here using kkd as the lead pattern throughout. Consider doing something about it, either in the first, or second Kiai.

02:15:069 (62,63) - I'd CTRL+G this, to complement the synth pitch on 63 better.

[Futsuu]

Still, I believe that this diff should use 1.4x SV or at least 1.3x, 200BPM 1.4x SV is not daring at all, in fact, lower SV can make 1/2 patterns look too dense which might confuse beginners. If you have a good reason to keep it, then do as you like.

First Kiai: I don't really understand why you're using different break times between each pattern. Since there are mostly 3/1 breaks (which don't seem to be intuitive to me in the first place but whatever, you're the mapper), having 2/1 breaks within this section makes the whole concept inconsistent. I'm not quite sure what you'd prefer doing here but I assume that you want to keep the 3/1 gaps for longer break time. As such, you should delete the following notes:

00:23:469 (47) -
00:33:069 (78) -

If you want to map it the other way around (2/1 gaps between each respective pattern), fill the 3/1 gaps with notes.

00:39:669 (98) – Finish like you did on the other difficulties?

00:40:869 (101) – change to d to match the bass.

01:12:669 – add a note here? With this you can avoid the iffy 3/1 gap and give better impact on the 1/2 triplet right after, currently it looks pretty weird as it stands out too much for no real reason.

01:18:069 (4) - This is the only diff (except GD) which doesn't have a finish here, was that intentional?

01:27:669 (14,15,16,17,18) - I've compared this with both the beginning of this diff and the other diffs and found this to be inconsistent with both of them. So, I'd suggest either CTRL+G'ing 01:28:869 (17,18) - or 01:27:669 (14,15) - + 01:28:269 (16) - to k. Which one you choose is your decision, though.

01:36:969 - add a kat here? Currently the gap sounds odd with nothing mapped to the peak of the melody (I'm sure you actually had a note here before the last update).

What I said about the rhythm gaps in the first Kiai also applies to the second of course. I'm pretty sure you know what I mean, if not, feel free to tell me so I can clarify things.

02:02:169 (22,23) – CTRL+G these, has a smoother flow to it and suits the melody better.

[Muzukashii]

I didn't notice it before, but don't you think the SV changes are quite harsh? Normally Muzus barely have any of them at all, and you're using 0.75x here which feels reaaaaally off. I do understand that you want to use them, but at least nerf them a bit here, so it is introduced better to the set and for better contrast to the SV changes in Inner Oni.

xfraczynho wrote:
Playing muzu is about getting more hard triples through the mapset difficulties

While I agree with you that Muzu introduce harder patterns, I believe that it is overdone in the second Kiai. Again, usually you wouldn't see a lot of ddk kkd dkd kdk things in other ranked mapsets at all, and honestly, pattern-wise it feels more of an Ura Muzu / Lite Oni than an actual Muzu.

xfraczynho wrote:
kdk dkd ddk and kkd are allowed until they're not mixed with other triples on any part of the song

That is actually the case here, though (if you see the 2nd Kiai as a whole part of the song). If you want to use them, then consider nerfing some at least (for example, get rid of all dkd so there are only kkd and ddk as non-mono triplets) unless you can give a good explanation on why you believe they should be kept as they are right now.

00:24:069 (76) – and 00:28:869 (102) – Both could be dons, flows better and gives the structure a nice effect switching between k ddd and d kkk (abekobe) with each measure.

00:25:269 (83) - 00:27:669 (96) – These look out of place regarding structure, change both to d to keep it consistent. Maybe you can find something to avoid repetition of these 1/2 5-plets?

00:36:369 (142,143,144,145,146,147) - Currently you're using this pattern 3 times in a row, unlike in the first half of the Kiai. Why's that? This looks blatantly copy-pasted and lazy, honestly. At least change this specific one to something like 00:38:769 (155,156,157,158,159,160) - this.

00:43:569 (176) - kat sounds nice here.

I'll skip the second Kiai at this point, you should get the idea by now.

[_yu68's Oni]

00:20:169 (78,79,80) - I think this can be improved. Try something like this?
This way, you can follow the drums more accurately and get better emphasis on the melody through spacing between 00:20:169 (80) - and 00:20:319 (81) -.

01:03:894 - I can hear 1/4 sounds here, add a note? Or rather not due to the calmness of this part?

Otherwise solid diff.

[Inner Oni]

00:06:069 - Just a little idea: Since this is the highest difficulty and it already utilizes SV to emphasize the less intense parts, consider adding some green lines with continously rising SV until 00:10:869 - to make the buildup look more appealing? This is not a must of course, completely up to you.

00:11:919 (28) - Consider changing this to k, I noticed the structure between the first two triplets of each pattern itself (more precisely, 00:11:769 (27,28) -, 00:14:169 (46,47) -, 00:16:569 (66,67) -, 00:18:969 (86,87) - ) is dd - kd - kd - dk. dk - kd - kd - dk would look more polished.

00:33:444 (216) - Move this note to 00:33:294 - and change 00:33:519 (217) - to k so you have so you have ddk d here? With this, you can catch the drums and the overall melody + background synth better.

00:53:169 (372) - Current doublet doesn't look nice. dk looks, sounds and plays more intuitively, even if the usage of doublet pattern feel repetitive then.

01:01:044 (431) - Move this note to 01:01:194 -? The 1/4 which you're mapping actually lies on this tick and it gives the structure of this section more consistency.

02:05:694 (831) - Change this to d for better flow?

Alright, that's it. As I said in my previous post, I believe the lower diffs need more work than the higher ones. I hope this mod helps you in any way.
Good luck! and sorry if my suggestions appear forced or offensive, absolutely didn't mean to orz

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-04T22:00:44+00:00

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PatZar wrote:
lol hi!

[Inner Oni]
00:17:619 (75,76,77,78,79) - this seems can be modified with a bit better sequence, try kddkk, since 00:17:769 (77,80) - are the same sound. I agree with 00:17:769 (77,80) - tbh, they're same but I'm not a fan of quintustreams like kddkk or stuff so I'll hold the current ddkkd

[muzukahsii]
01:02:169 (261) - d for consistency with 01:06:969 (287) - . I'm changing 01:06:969 (287) - instead to kat, I think sounds better
01:58:869 (452,453,454,455,456,457) - d kkk k d for better consistency with previous pattern. D: I'm confused, it's already d kkk k d so... (?) xD
02:00:219 (460,461,462) - i dont recommend dkd in muzukashii, but it's up on you. Yeah agree, also it's the only dkd in the whole song so doesn't make a real sense (also Greenshell pointed this if I'm not wrong
02:07:869 (503,504,505) - ^ fixed aswell!

i dont have idea what should i mod tho lol nice diff .
and the other diff are fine for me

Thanks for modding and proud to read! Fixed some general errors

Greenshell wrote:
Follow-up of the previous mod now that you replied, no kds. Remember that these are only suggestions, feel free to reject everything if you don't like them.

Really thanks for coming back. I really appreciatte this !

DIOOOOOOOOO #2
d / don = Don Note
D / Don = Don Finish
k / kat = Katsu Note
K / Kat = Katsu Finish
abekobe = d → k / k → d

General:

Shouldn't the first Kiai have audio volume of 80% like the second? Or 80% for first and 90% for second Kiai? Yeah using 80 on first one and 90 in the second one, I think their volumes are way different

~~I miss the hitsounds orz~~ me too ;;

[Kantan]

00:08:769 – To make up a better spread with Futsuu, either add a note here or delete some in Futsuu.
I think current one is good; I mean they mustn't be the same so anyways it's good for each diff ^^

00:39:369 (57,58) – CTRL+G these notes to keep the abekobe (reversed color) consistent with the rest of the Kiai?
hmmm I've heard this lot of times but I think current one is good since compared to the rest of kiai there's a descendant sound that makes the section change more notorious so I keep different than the other ones (if you refered to notes like 00:33:969 (46,47) - )

00:43:269 (63,64) – Try changing these 2 notes to kats? With this, you can give better impact on the descending pitch on
00:43:869 (65) – (which is apparently 1/2 but you can't map it as such), and you have a nice abekobe with 00:48:069 (70,71,72) -. As an alternative: For the first mentioned triplet, try dkd, and for the second one kdk. With this, you can complement the peak of the synth pitch on 00:48:069 (70) – better while still maintaining the abekobe which appears quite often in this diff.
Yeah you're toally right boy, changed the first one to dkd and second to kdk. It sounds really good and yeah, using mirror sounds on Kantan helps a lot :3

00:55:269 (81) - could be d, this is supported by the drumset having the snare on the next tick, it gives more impact on 00:55:569 (82) - regarding the pitch and creates slight pattern variety to 00:57:669 (85,86,87) -.
Right again, changed to d k d

01:12:969 - I would've expected something like a 1/1 triplet here, since any other diff does something which stands out from the rest of the stanza here, but that is just a minor thing.
As you said, is a minor stuff. I don't want to make the same section through all difficulties. Also this is kind of relaxing part of the song so I think current one is fine

01:30:669 (118) – change this to kat to match the pitch and for a bit of variety in coloring?
I think using some of monocolour notes is good enough for Kantan. Also there's not any pitch change as I can hear

Not a fan of the structure in second Kiai, you're breaking up the abekobe-ish (wow how many times did I say this word now lol xD) structure completely here using kkd as the lead pattern throughout. Consider doing something about it, either in the first, or second Kiai.
I think current one is fine: I mean I'm focusing on notes like 01:58:269 (26) - 02:00:669 (31) - etc... and they're used mirror through the whole kiai so consistency about them shouldn't be a problem

02:15:069 (62,63) - I'd CTRL+G this, to complement the synth pitch on 63 better.
Hmmm well after trying this like 10 times I think there's an descendant sound from 02:14:469 - 02:15:069 - so I think using k k d is fine. From here starts some ascendant so it's supposed to be d d k so spinner is consider my kat note. So I pref using k k d d instead k k k d

[Futsuu]

Still, I believe that this diff should use 1.4x SV or at least 1.3x, 200BPM 1.4x SV is not daring at all, in fact, lower SV can make 1/2 patterns look too dense which might confuse beginners. If you have a good reason to keep it, then do as you like.
Uhh still wondering about this. I still have in mind Kantan and Futsuu should have the same SV since are the diffs which most of new players play. Muzu is a different case; they're already familiarized on taiko and it's supposed to be a little more challenger

First Kiai: I don't really understand why you're using different break times between each pattern. Since there are mostly 3/1 breaks (which don't seem to be intuitive to me in the first place but whatever, you're the mapper), having 2/1 breaks within this section makes the whole concept inconsistent. I'm not quite sure what you'd prefer doing here but I assume that you want to keep the 3/1 gaps for longer break time. As such, you should delete the following notes:

00:23:469 (47) -
00:33:069 (78) -

If you want to map it the other way around (2/1 gaps between each respective pattern), fill the 3/1 gaps with notes.
Yeah I made the second suggestion. Added some notes to make only 2/1 breaks (yeah it was totally my mistake about it tho. Thanks for noticing) so there aren't more 3/1 random breaks

00:39:669 (98) – Finish like you did on the other difficulties?
Yeah used it. I know i'm not a fan of using the same mapping but there's neccesary lol

00:40:869 (101) – change to d to match the bass.
There's a drum sound that I wanted to follow. You can hear it easily by deleting this note ^^ so kat is currently fine

01:12:669 – add a note here? With this you can avoid the iffy 3/1 gap and give better impact on the 1/2 triplet right after, currently it looks pretty weird as it stands out too much for no real reason.
I think current one is really good. Kind of similar reason as Kantan: There's a slow part so considering it is well mapped. Also using little doubles is fine and triple to make a connection between last and current section

01:18:069 (4) - This is the only diff (except GD) which doesn't have a finish here, was that intentional?
Yeah it was intentional but I think using finish here is better than small note

01:27:669 (14,15,16,17,18) - I've compared this with both the beginning of this diff and the other diffs and found this to be inconsistent with both of them. So, I'd suggest either CTRL+G'ing 01:28:869 (17,18) - or 01:27:669 (14,15) - + 01:28:269 (16) - to k. Which one you choose is your decision, though.
Yeah just made ctrl+g on 01:28:869 (17,18) -. Sounds really better thanks

01:36:969 - add a kat here? Currently the gap sounds odd with nothing mapped to the peak of the melody (I'm sure you actually had a note here before the last update).
Yeah you're right, I deleted this accidentally lol

What I said about the rhythm gaps in the first Kiai also applies to the second of course. I'm pretty sure you know what I mean, if not, feel free to tell me so I can clarify things.
Fixed some of them (more in first than second)

02:02:169 (22,23) – CTRL+G these, has a smoother flow to it and suits the melody better.
Lol you choiced 2 kats but I suppose you wanted to say first don and kat so I'm holding anyways cuz there's a descendant melody

[Muzukashii]

I didn't notice it before, but don't you think the SV changes are quite harsh? Normally Muzus barely have any of them at all, and you're using 0.75x here which feels reaaaaally off. I do understand that you want to use them, but at least nerf them a bit here, so it is introduced better to the set and for better contrast to the SV changes in Inner Oni.
Yeah you're right. I'm sure I deleted them last update zzz but changing now :3

xfraczynho wrote:
Playing muzu is about getting more hard triples through the mapset difficulties
While I agree with you that Muzu introduce harder patterns, I believe that it is overdone in the second Kiai. Again, usually you wouldn't see a lot of ddk kkd dkd kdk things in other ranked mapsets at all, and honestly, pattern-wise it feels more of an Ura Muzu / Lite Oni than an actual Muzu.

xfraczynho wrote:
kdk dkd ddk and kkd are allowed until they're not mixed with other triples on any part of the song
That is actually the case here, though (if you see the 2nd Kiai as a whole part of the song). If you want to use them, then consider nerfing some at least (for example, get rid of all dkd so there are only kkd and ddk as non-mono triplets) unless you can give a good explanation on why you believe they should be kept as they are right now.
Yeah fixed lot of them on last mod tho

00:24:069 (76) – and 00:28:869 (102) – Both could be dons, flows better and gives the structure a nice effect switching between k ddd and d kkk (abekobe) with each measure.
Alright! Fixed

00:25:269 (83) - 00:27:669 (96) – These look out of place regarding structure, change both to d to keep it consistent. Maybe you can find something to avoid repetition of these 1/2 5-plets?
Changed the second one to don

00:36:369 (142,143,144,145,146,147) - Currently you're using this pattern 3 times in a row, unlike in the first half of the Kiai. Why's that? This looks blatantly copy-pasted and lazy, honestly. At least change this specific one to something like 00:38:769 (155,156,157,158,159,160) - this.
wtf lol missmapped this xD changed 00:33:969 (129,130,131,132,133,134) - to k d ddd k

00:43:569 (176) - kat sounds nice here. it's already kat ; ;

I'll skip the second Kiai at this point, you should get the idea by now.
Totally ^^

[Inner Oni]

00:06:069 - Just a little idea: Since this is the highest difficulty and it already utilizes SV to emphasize the less intense parts, consider adding some green lines with continously rising SV until 00:10:869 - to make the buildup look more appealing? This is not a must of course, completely up to you.
Your idea is fine, but I wouldn't like to start with less than 1.0x SV and starting with 1.0 should finish with more than this (of course) so I think current one is kind of fun already

00:11:919 (28) - Consider changing this to k, I noticed the structure between the first two triplets of each pattern itself (more precisely, 00:11:769 (27,28) -, 00:14:169 (46,47) -, 00:16:569 (66,67) -, 00:18:969 (86,87) - ) is dd - kd - kd - dk. dk - kd - kd - dk would look more polished.
Totally right, fixed ~

00:33:444 (216) - Move this note to 00:33:294 - and change 00:33:519 (217) - to k so you have so you have ddk d here? With this, you can catch the drums and the overall melody + background synth better.
Yup! Also about consistency (idk what I did here tbh)

00:53:169 (372) - Current doublet doesn't look nice. dk looks, sounds and plays more intuitively, even if the usage of doublet pattern feel repetitive then.
I think current double is fine: Consistent, readable and fills with the rhythm. I think there's not reason to delete it :/

01:01:044 (431) - Move this note to 01:01:194 -? The 1/4 which you're mapping actually lies on this tick and it gives the structure of this section more consistency.
You can hear the background drum right here 01:00:969 - so current triple is fine imo

02:05:694 (831) - Change this to d for better flow? Fixed, ugly pattern uhh

Alright, that's it. As I said in my previous post, I believe the lower diffs need more work than the higher ones. I hope this mod helps you in any way.
Good luck! and sorry if my suggestions appear forced or offensive, absolutely didn't mean to orz

Wops missclick and gave you kudosu again. Idk if it's acceptable so you helped me twice tho :p

You really helped me! Thanks for coming back, I really appreciate it . And don't worry, your comments were totally right!

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Surono

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Surono 2017-06-04T22:03:23+00:00

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JessiChan

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JessiChan 2017-06-04T23:08:46+00:00

Hola Frac, disculpa la demora, he estado super ocupada. Aún lo estoy pero yo te prometí el mod(?)

Kantan

00:33:069 (44) - 00:37:869 (54) - Podrían ser azules :3
00:58:269 (87) - Azul
01:06:069 (95,96,97) - kkd
02:15:369 (63) - Podrías cambiarlo a un finisher azul

Futsuu

¿Por qué no pones este: 00:14:469 (22) - Igual a este: 00:19:269 (32) - ? Tendría consistencia y sonaría bonito. :3
00:25:869 - Agrega nota roja y 00:26:469 (55) - cambia ese a rojo
00:27:369 (59) - Azul
00:28:269 - Nota
00:35:469 - 00:37:869 - Nota

Inner Oni

00:29:619 (181) - agrega un azul allí
01:53:169 (716) - 01:55:569 (738) - sonarían mejor como azules

GL~

Aisha

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Aisha 2017-06-05T00:01:03+00:00

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JessiChan wrote:
Hola Frac, disculpa la demora, he estado super ocupada. Aún lo estoy pero yo te prometí el mod(?)
Hola! Jaja gracias por darte tu tiempo D

Kantan
00:33:069 (44) - 00:37:869 (54) - Podrían ser azules :3
Los dejo como don porque los tonos son exactamente lo mismo según escucho :3
00:58:269 (87) - Azul
Cambiado, apliqué ctrl+g
01:06:069 (95,96,97) - kkd
Sonido ascendente al igual que en 01:01:269 -
02:15:369 (63) - Podrías cambiarlo a un finisher azul
Mmmmmmmmm la verdad aceptaré una segunda sugerencia, por mientras lo dejo así para no complicar esa parte de gusto considerando que es el fin

Futsuu
¿Por qué no pones este: 00:14:469 (22) - Igual a este: 00:19:269 (32) - ? Tendría consistencia y sonaría bonito. :3
No los hice iguales pero sí cambié el segundo por d k d d k y sí, suena mejor :3
00:25:869 - Agrega nota roja y 00:26:469 (55) - cambia ese a rojo
Sí hice el cambio en el anterior mod
00:27:369 (59) - Azul
Mmm no siento que haya alguna diferencia con 00:27:669 (61) - en cuanto a tono :c
00:28:269 - Nota
Aplicado del anterior también
00:35:469 - 00:37:869 - Nota
Lo mismo xD

Inner Oni
00:29:619 (181) - agrega un azul allí
Mm a mi gusto estos 3 00:29:769 (183,184,185) - deben ser kdk y no soy fan de usar mucho kdkdk consecutivamente, así que lo dejo como está
01:53:169 (716) - 01:55:569 (738) - sonarían mejor como azules
Concuerdo con el segundo, pero el primero lo dejo como está

GL~

Gracias por el modeo Jessi, más vale tarde que nunca ?) jajaj
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_yu68

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_yu68 2017-06-06T08:04:00+00:00

Zpmzpm wrote:
[_yuOni]
The part after first kiai has some weird spacing
just sounds really weird when played.
00:43:269 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245) - this is pretty awkward imo, something like a kkd 1/4 thing after the last note would feel much better (fill up 245 to 246) deleted 242,243 and added 1/4 kkd at 00:44:319 -
00:49:269 (267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - could fill up gaps, this is Oni, not Muzu. I think the difficulty spread is enough because of even-1/2s and 1/4 triplets in this part.

Thanks mod :3 I applied a suggestion.

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Aisha

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Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-08T06:45:48+00:00

_yu68 wrote:

Zpmzpm wrote:
[_yuOni]
The part after first kiai has some weird spacing
just sounds really weird when played.
00:43:269 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245) - this is pretty awkward imo, something like a kkd 1/4 thing after the last note would feel much better (fill up 245 to 246) deleted 242,243 and added 1/4 kkd at 00:44:319 -
00:49:269 (267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - could fill up gaps, this is Oni, not Muzu. I think the difficulty spread is enough because of even-1/2s and 1/4 triplets in this part.

Thanks mod :3 I applied a suggestion.

.osu

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Updated!
Still accepting mods (and waiting for BN check someday hopefully)

Sylphi

osu! Alumni

3,298 posts

Joined February 2012

Sylphi 2017-06-09T05:19:13+00:00

Sorry for being late.

[Kantan]

00:36:069 (50) - Consider changing to k for consistency. comparing to other similar sound (or considering overall patterns), only this is started with kat.
00:43:269 (63,64,65) - 00:48:069 (70,71,72) - I think It's not good idea to use different color patterns though these are similar pitch patterns. in these part, using same pattern would make beginners able to play more easier probably.
00:51:069 (75,76,77) - It should be changed to d k d for consistency with 00:55:869. there is no reason that these similar things is diffrent.
01:12:969 (103,104) - Swap these for consistency with 01:08:469 - 01:17:769 (108,109) -.
01:21:669 (111) - Change to k for consistency.
01:32:469 (122,123) - Swap these. overall feeling (melody, drums, etc.) not changed. so there is no reason to start with k.
02:08:169 (48) - Well, It may be asked whether It's necessary to map 5 stream with 1/1 divisor. consequently, it make continuous long patterns appear immediately. I think It would be nice to add note on 02:10:569 and make it 5 stream instead.
02:12:969 (59) - Similar reason as above. If you apply above mod, It should be removed for consistency.

[Futsuu]

00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - 01:27:819 (15) - 01:29:019 (18) - Yeah, there is definitely sound. but It's hard to catch the rhythm at this difficulty.
00:23:469 (46) - Seeing other similar thing, that all are started with don note.
00:27:369 (60) - Change to k for consistency. Also, in the melody, It's little higher than previous thing.
00:35:469 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - Similar as 00:23:469. there is no specific reason (sound, pattern, etc.) to change the basic shape. It just make the flow break, make players feel weird consequently.
00:40:569 (103) - the pitch is higher than previous thing. how about changing this to kat?
00:41:769 (106,107,108,109) - Considering the melody, k d d k would be more fit the music.
00:46:569 (118,119,120,121) - Same as above.
01:00:969 (152,153) - Swap these for consistency with 01:05:769 (161,162)
01:34:269 (33) - Change to k for making pattern? ddd / kkk feels not bad for me.
01:45:669 (10) - 01:43:269 (6) - Respectively k, d for consistency with after these patterns.
01:56:769 (2,3) - Most patterns in kiai time basically has the pattern like as o___o_o_o_... but only this thing starts with o_ooo_o_o_... shape. actually, itself doesn't matter. but if you consider consistency with 02:06:069, it should be removed.
02:03:369 (26) - k for consistency.

[Muzukashii]

00:08:619 (11) - It's a bit weird feeling and there is actually no sound to map.
00:16:569 (41) - k for consistency.
00:21:669 (62) - How about moving this to 00:21:519 following the melody? as result, it would be more natural to play, I think...
1. 00:24:069 (75) - 00:26:469 (87) - 00:28:869 (100) - Similar as above. but It's not forced.
00:30:669 (110,111,112,113,114) - It makes me feel awkward. I think, it's necessary to change to o_o_o_o___o pattern because the actual melody is like that. Same opinion about the follow things:
1. 00:33:069 (123,124,125,126,127) - Same as above
2. 00:35:469 (136,137,138,139,140) -
3. 00:37:869 (149,150,151,152,153) -
00:41:769 (167) - Should be k to follow melody. It's higher than previous thing.
00:45:669 (181) - k for consistency with 00:40:869 (164)
00:46:269 (183,184) - Swapping these would be more fit the music, in my opinion.
00:52:269 (207) - Considering 00:56:469 part, It would be better to change to don for consistency.
00:58:869 - There is a big gap between Futsuu and Muzukashii even considering the feeling of this part. It probably can fix if you remove some 1/4 triplet... I think, It needs to reduce more the density on Muzukashii.
1. Futsuu vs Muzukashii
01:34:569 (348) - 01:35:619 - Respectively, Change to kat, Add don. It probably make patterns look more balanced, in my opinion.
01:42:519 (372) - 01:43:719 (375) - Swap these for consistency.
01:51:219 (402) - Remove for consistency.
01:57:369 - Same as 00:21:669
02:06:069 - Similar as 00:30:669. It seems to be intended to make more harder but I feel like that some rhythm placement is not fit the music.

[_yu68's Oni]

00:47:919 (261) - 変な所にマップされた感じがちょっとあるので、00:47:769に移したほうがいいんじゃないかと…
01:13:869 (400) - この辺は何を基準でマップしたのかよくわかりませんが、一応メロディー基準で見ると、ここよりは01:14:169のほうが曲には合うんです。
01:16:269 (411) - これも似た感じです、ここよりは01:16:569がいいんじゃないかと…

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-11T20:33:29+00:00

agreeing
notsure/nottotally/comments
notagreeing

Sylphi wrote:
Sorry for being late. Hi! Don't worry

[Kantan]
00:36:069 (50) - Consider changing to k for consistency. comparing to other similar sound (or considering overall patterns), only this is started with kat.
Oh yeah I've fix it yesterday :p
00:43:269 (63,64,65) - 00:48:069 (70,71,72) - I think It's not good idea to use different color patterns though these are similar pitch patterns. in these part, using same pattern would make beginners able to play more easier probably.
Applied
00:51:069 (75,76,77) - It should be changed to d k d for consistency with 00:55:869. there is no reason that these similar things is diffrent.
I think holding current one is fine. The reason is I'm following main pitches at making third one don on both cases. So making just the middle note different shouldn't be that problem imo :p. Also dinamicity :3
01:12:969 (103,104) - Swap these for consistency with 01:08:469 - 01:17:769 (108,109) -.
Fixed!
01:21:669 (111) - Change to k for consistency.
I think using don to emphatise next kat is fine. Also isn't that different than before one
01:32:469 (122,123) - Swap these. overall feeling (melody, drums, etc.) not changed. so there is no reason to start with k.
I think melody changes from 01:27:669 - . That kick sound (kat one) is fine imo also next 4/1 does the same
02:08:169 (48) - Well, It may be asked whether It's necessary to map 5 stream with 1/1 divisor. consequently, it make continuous long patterns appear immediately. I think It would be nice to add note on 02:10:569 and make it 5 stream instead.
Yeah I've remapped almost whole kiais yesterday but forgot to update xD
02:12:969 (59) - Similar reason as above. If you apply above mod, It should be removed for consistency.
^
[Futsuu]
00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - 01:27:819 (15) - 01:29:019 (18) - Yeah, there is definitely sound. but It's hard to catch the rhythm at this difficulty.
I think isn't that hard to be honest. They're simply a double with emphasis on second kick ^^
00:23:469 (46) - Seeing other similar thing, that all are started with don note.
Changed!
00:27:369 (60) - Change to k for consistency. Also, in the melody, It's little higher than previous thing.
Right! Also consistency with 00:22:569 (44) -
00:35:469 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - Similar as 00:23:469. there is no specific reason (sound, pattern, etc.) to change the basic shape. It just make the flow break, make players feel weird consequently.
It's just about dinamicity. Isn't that hard to read considering there's only one note difference between them :p
00:40:569 (103) - the pitch is higher than previous thing. how about changing this to kat?
Agree
00:41:769 (106,107,108,109) - Considering the melody, k d d k would be more fit the music.
Sounds great
00:46:569 (118,119,120,121) - Same as above.
Holding it to make it a little different, also third and fourth are more important than others imo
01:00:969 (152,153) - Swap these for consistency with 01:05:769 (161,162)
Done
01:34:269 (33) - Change to k for making pattern? ddd / kkk feels not bad for me.
First one is more descendant than second one so making this to emphatise third note on both cases is fine :p
01:45:669 (10) - 01:43:269 (6) - Respectively k, d for consistency with after these patterns.
Same reason as above
01:56:769 (2,3) - Most patterns in kiai time basically has the pattern like as o___o_o_o_... but only this thing starts with o_ooo_o_o_... shape. actually, itself doesn't matter. but if you consider consistency with 02:06:069, it should be removed.
Fixed
02:03:369 (26) - k for consistency.
Fixed
[Muzukashii]
00:08:619 (11) - It's a bit weird feeling and there is actually no sound to map.
I feel like there's sound, and it's clearly a kat so holding
00:16:569 (41) - k for consistency.
Done
00:21:669 (62) - How about moving this to 00:21:519 following the melody? as result, it would be more natural to play, I think...
00:24:069 (75) - 00:26:469 (87) - 00:28:869 (100) - Similar as above. but It's not forced.
Hmmm I feel like current one is more natural than that. New rhythm on Kiai starts on 00:21:669 - exactly so using kick here is fine ^^
00:30:669 (110,111,112,113,114) - It makes me feel awkward. I think, it's necessary to change to o_o_o_o___o pattern because the actual melody is like that. Same opinion about the follow things:
00:33:069 (123,124,125,126,127) - Same as above
00:35:469 (136,137,138,139,140) -
00:37:869 (149,150,151,152,153) -
I'm not totally sure if I'm changing second half of Kiai's right now tbh. I was thinking a lot about this but I feel a melody change between first half and second. For now I'm holding but if I'm requested... I'll change :p
00:41:769 (167) - Should be k to follow melody. It's higher than previous thing.
Fixed
00:45:669 (181) - k for consistency with 00:40:869 (164)
I think changing both for d d is better tho
00:46:269 (183,184) - Swapping these would be more fit the music, in my opinion.
Hmmm holding current one for now, I think it's better
00:52:269 (207) - Considering 00:56:469 part, It would be better to change to don for consistency.
You're right changed
00:58:869 - There is a big gap between Futsuu and Muzukashii even considering the feeling of this part. It probably can fix if you remove some 1/4 triplet... I think, It needs to reduce more the density on Muzukashii.
Futsuu vs Muzukashii
Totally right, fixed!
01:34:569 (348) - 01:35:619 - Respectively, Change to kat, Add don. It probably make patterns look more balanced, in my opinion.
Uhh I like this section to be honest. Holding for now :p
01:42:519 (372) - 01:43:719 (375) - Swap these for consistency.
Hmm I'm holding since I'm following the high pitch here so there's not the same through the whole section
01:51:219 (402) - Remove for consistency.
Fixed
01:57:369 - Same as 00:21:669
Same comment
02:06:069 - Similar as 00:30:669. It seems to be intended to make more harder but I feel like that some rhythm placement is not fit the music.
Same ^^

Really thanks for modding boy! Don't worry about late, still really helpful and sorry if I've fixed somethings by myself, forgot to update :c

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-06-13T11:19:31+00:00

Hi there!

[Inner Oni]

00:12:669 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - How about using k ddkdk ? According to the way you used k to follow the melody, I'd say, it's pretty decent here.
00:15:144 (55) - Might be just me. But I think this k, create a weird flow. I'd suggest you to remove it. Or, you can maybe change it to d, but if you change it to d, I'd also suggest you to change this one 00:14:919 (53) - into a k, for a better flow.
00:19:869 (94) - change this one into k ? It flow pretty well, and sounds good with the melody & your dkddk.
00:21:069 (104,105,106,107) - those doublet are quite weird to play in my opinion. There's no real sound here 00:21:144 - & you're even skipping this drum 00:21:219 - . It also suddenly break your k spam, which follow the background melody. I'd highly suggest you to just move this note 00:21:144 (105) - 1/4 later.
00:21:069 (104) - If you fixed the previous point, how about changing this one into d ? It goes very well with the melody. Because the k spam, does follow the melody using the same pitch pretty well, but this one 00:21:069 (104) - goes down.
if you fix both last suggest, don't forget about similar one!
00:29:469 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - I know what you're trying to follow with your k on this pattern. However, I'd say using ddkdk k would follow better the melody. We can feel much better the melody increasing in intensity & pitch.
00:31:269 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - I know you want to make symmetric/mirror pattern. But it actually flow quite weird. Mainly because this triplet 00:31:269 (196,197,198) - start on 1/1.
00:34:119 (222) - up to you, but this one as k is really cool with the melody.
00:39:669 (275) - This note will get more emphasis as D. Because it's surrounded by k.
01:10:719 (488,489) - how about swapping those note ? I feel like 01:10:869 (489) - will get more emphasis.
01:42:669 - the way your suddenly mapping on drum is quite strange in this case. Changing focus this suddenly in the same part can be quite weird to play.
~~02:20:469 - You can just end your spinner here.~~

[yu]

~~02:20:469 - You can just end spinner here .~~
Nice diff!

[Muzukashii]

00:08:619 (11) - I can understand why you want to use a note here. But consider deleting it? Next part doesn't have any 5 notes 1/2.
00:29:469 (106) - change this one into a d ? those high pitched 00:29:619 (107,108) - will get more emphasis.
00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - Changing your structure the 2nd part of the kiai is quite weird in my opinion. But it's still ok, since it's currently changing at an important point of the kiai.
00:44:394 (180) - better delete this note, it's currently the only triplet in this part.
00:52:869 (213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - this patttern is currently the same difficulty as some pattern from your kiai time. I'd highly suggest you to nerf it.
00:57:669 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - I'd say almost the same thing here, but I think, just deleting this note 00:58:119 (239) - will be ok.
00:58:869 - 01:08:469 - I know why you're mapping some triplet here. But it'd be actually better to not map in on Muzukashii. Using triplet this way on those kind of slow part, I don't really recommand it for muzu.
01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - there's a lot of triplet in your 2nd kiai. Your 1st kiai doesn't have this much triplet. Consider reducing triplet usage. (at least half). While I'm talking about triplet, I would not recommand using multiple color triplet on muzukashii, for a 200bpm song.
02:20:469 - as I said about other diff, better finish spinner here.

[Futsuu]

00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - even if they're easy to tap, even if I know why you're mapping it, better delete it. You're not using any 1/2 in the next part.
01:13:119 (175) - Almost the same thing as Muzu. I know why you're mapping it, but there's no 1/2 in this part, which kinda make the 1/2 usage quite inconsistent. Better just remove it.
01:18:069 - 01:27:669 - I don't really understand how you're mapping this part, and on what. Maybe it's better to just use a note every 4/1 ? It's really a calm part, and it does follow the strings.
01:27:669 - 01:37:269 - with the current patterns used on this part. I really can't feel any ascending difficulty, with the ascending intensity of the song. I'd highly suggest you to start this part with really simple pattern, and use a little more complex each time the intensity increase.

[Kantan]

the 4/1 break would be actually better here : 00:28:869 - or here 00:30:069 - (using a 4/1 break, before your bookmark, or just after will be better)
01:12:969 (103) - 01:17:769 (108) - Better not use 1/1 on this part. This part is currently more calm than the previous one (and previous one doesn't have any 1/1)
I'd say, it'd be better to delete those note : 01:31:569 (120,121) - 01:33:969 (125) - for a better density increase according to the intensity increase from the song.
01:55:869 (21) - I'd say, better let 4/1 break before starting your kiai.
01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - your 4/1 break on this kiai is quite strange in my opinion. Better use the same structure as the 1st kiai, of if you want something different, try to find something more consistent.

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~~I'm still not done. Just sleeping a while & I'll finish your mod!~~
Later than expected, but I'm now done!
good luck!

Jaltzu

771 posts

Joined April 2013

Jaltzu 2017-06-16T10:27:06+00:00

Hello, M4M from my queue

Muzu

00:20:319 - I feel like there should be k here.
00:23:319 (72) - Change to k since the sound is same as in 00:23:019 (70,71) -
00:24:969 (82) - Change to d to make it more distinct from 00:24:669 (80) -
00:29:469 (106) - Change to d because the pitch rises significantly at 00:29:619 (107) -
00:40:869 (166) - k fits way better imo.
00:42:069 (170) - ↑
00:42:369 (171,172) - dk
00:44:769 (182) - Change to d and move to 00:45:069. Fits the rhythm better
00:45:669 (185) - k

00:46:869 (189,190,191,192,193) - Maybe this instead:

00:48:369 (194,195,196) - k k d
01:08:169 (289,290,291) - kkk
01:36:669 (358) - d to emphasize pitch change at 01:36:969 (359) -
01:37:269 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384) - The number of unmapped sounds in this part makes it feel kinda awkward. Maybe add a few doubles or something?

Oni

00:11:169 (22,23,24) + 00:13:569 (36,37,38) + 00:15:969 (51,52,53) - I feel like these could be d k k instead
00:14:469 (42,43,44,45,46) - d k k d k fits better imo.
00:45:819 (251) - k for the background drum sound?
00:51:819 (284) - k so that it matches 00:49:419 (270) -
I like this pattern: Add k to 01:09:369 , Ctrl+G to 01:09:519 (379,380) - (or both d) and change 01:09:969 (381) - to d
01:11:469 (388) - Move to 01:11:769
01:16:419 (412) - Change to d and add k to 01:16:569
01:45:969 (499,500,501,502,503,504) - d k k kdk Sounds better.

Inner Oni

00:09:519 Add k
00:14:469 (48,49,50,51,52) - I think ddkkd fits the pitch changes better.
00:30:969 (194) - Change to k
00:33:369 (216) - ↑
00:35:769 (238) - ↑
00:38:169 (260) - ↑
00:38:469 (262,263,264,265,266,267) - I like kdd kkd better.
00:46:869 (324,325,326) - I think this should be ddd both to match lower pitch/volume and to emphasize 00:48:069 (332,333,334) -
00:53:769 (377,378) - Ctrl+G
00:57:969 (410) - k
01:12:969 (497) - d to distinguish it from 01:12:819 (496) -

Overall, pretty solid mapset. Not sure how much of my feedback is actually useful at this point, but hope it helps at least a bit. GL for rank.

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-16T22:31:02+00:00

Kin wrote:
Hi there! Hi Kin!

[Inner Oni]

00:12:669 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - How about using k ddkdk ? According to the way you used k to follow the melody, I'd say, it's pretty decent here.
Yeah I agree with you on this ^^ changed
00:15:144 (55) - Might be just me. But I think this k, create a weird flow. I'd suggest you to remove it. Or, you can maybe change it to d, but if you change it to d, I'd also suggest you to change this one 00:14:919 (53) - into a k, for a better flow.
Uhh I'm doubting a lot with this one tbh. I feel like this one doesn't matter at that point as being really important on this way since current main pitches (00:15:369 (58) - as k and 00:15:219 (56,57) - as d) are well followed so it just makes this a little more dynamic :p. I think I'll hold it
00:19:869 (94) - change this one into k ? It flow pretty well, and sounds good with the melody & your dkddk.
fixed
00:21:069 (104,105,106,107) - those doublet are quite weird to play in my opinion. There's no real sound here 00:21:144 - & you're even skipping this drum 00:21:219 - . It also suddenly break your k spam, which follow the background melody. I'd highly suggest you to just move this note 00:21:144 (105) - 1/4 later.
I think using 00:21:069 (104,107) - as kats is the most important thing on this section. Using these doubles create a great emphasis about these strong sounds. About following the middle note I think isn't that neccesary since I focus on the strong sounds (specially when using kat notes). ~~My doubles noo ; ; jk~~
00:21:069 (104) - If you fixed the previous point, how about changing this one into d ? It goes very well with the melody. Because the k spam, does follow the melody using the same pitch pretty well, but this one 00:21:069 (104) - goes down.
if you fix both last suggest, don't forget about similar one!
Well I got your point. Previous kat kind of rest importance on this hard kick but I think they're pretty neccesary according to rhythm. Just by using 4 kats in a row I don't feel like it's a real kat spam; I've seen lot of maps using even more streaks o:
00:29:469 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - I know what you're trying to follow with your k on this pattern. However, I'd say using ddkdk k would follow better the melody. We can feel much better the melody increasing in intensity & pitch.
This 7notestream is commented a lot lol. I think current pattern isn't that good tbh but neccesary. I don't want to delete 7notestream cause I feel there's good rhythm to be mapped and also it's pretty fun for Inner Oni. Maybe I'll change to dkddkdk but for now I'm holding this ;;
00:31:269 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - I know you want to make symmetric/mirror pattern. But it actually flow quite weird. Mainly because this triplet 00:31:269 (196,197,198) - start on 1/1.
Agree with you. Deleted some notes to make a better flow here ^^
00:34:119 (222) - up to you, but this one as k is really cool with the melody.
tbh I would prefer highly the current one since the only high pitch that I feel is right on 00:34:269 (223) - so using kat on that one could rest emphasis on that one ^^
00:39:669 (275) - This note will get more emphasis as D. Because it's surrounded by k.
Agree! Fixed ~
01:10:719 (488,489) - how about swapping those note ? I feel like 01:10:869 (489) - will get more emphasis.
Agree aswell
01:42:669 - the way your suddenly mapping on drum is quite strange in this case. Changing focus this suddenly in the same part can be quite weird to play.
Yeah! I'm totally doubting about this... I'm in the limbo of something rankable/fun. I would really love if someone else help me with this one since I think it's completely readable but it's a little strange while playing. I'll try to hold it but if I really need to change then will do :3
~~02:20:469 - You can just end your spinner here.~~
fixed!
[Muzukashii]
00:08:619 (11) - I can understand why you want to use a note here. But consider deleting it? Next part doesn't have any 5 notes 1/2.
I was really doubting about this tbh. I think current one is fine according to using 5 notes chain for a section change and totally following rhythm. I'll hold this for now but can wait for another comment about it :p
00:29:469 (106) - change this one into a d ? those high pitched 00:29:619 (107,108) - will get more emphasis.
fixed ~
00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - Changing your structure the 2nd part of the kiai is quite weird in my opinion. But it's still ok, since it's currently changing at an important point of the kiai.
Well you're right. Skylish told me the same about this. I was about to change this because consistency but if you hear this carefully you can notice there's a rhythm difference between the first half and second one ^^. I don't want honestly to change this but if it's really neccesary... then I'll need to do ; ;
00:44:394 (180) - better delete this note, it's currently the only triplet in this part.
b...but there's a instrument shake ; ; and section change so I think holding is fine :C
00:52:869 (213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - this patttern is currently the same difficulty as some pattern from your kiai time. I'd highly suggest you to nerf it.
yeah it's even harder lol I deleted 00:53:319 (216) -
00:57:669 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - I'd say almost the same thing here, but I think, just deleting this note 00:58:119 (239) - will be ok.
fixed
00:58:869 - 01:08:469 - I know why you're mapping some triplet here. But it'd be actually better to not map in on Muzukashii. Using triplet this way on those kind of slow part, I don't really recommand it for muzu.
It's kinda same reason as I've told b4. Following the current drum shake (even on slow part) is pretty nice and doesn't confuse anyone because song style :p
01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - there's a lot of triplet in your 2nd kiai. Your 1st kiai doesn't have this much triplet. Consider reducing triplet usage. (at least half). While I'm talking about triplet, I would not recommand using multiple color triplet on muzukashii, for a 200bpm song.
Yeah you're totally right. I made some changes on second kiai (deleted triplets and fixed different colour patterns)
02:20:469 - as I said about other diff, better finish spinner here.
Done
[Futsuu]

00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - even if they're easy to tap, even if I know why you're mapping it, better delete it. You're not using any 1/2 in the next part.
Well I agree with you about not having a great consistency at all but I think I'm gonna hold them because I want to emphatise a different section against the first one. Doubles sound currently great imo and if I add some of them on next section it could be too hard w
01:13:119 (175) - Almost the same thing as Muzu. I know why you're mapping it, but there's no 1/2 in this part, which kinda make the 1/2 usage quite inconsistent. Better just remove it.
Uhh I'm not totally sure about this tbh. But if you hear from 01:12:969 - I think that little shake in the instrument deserves to be mapped. I think isn't that hard for this section since isn't that slow compared to 01:18:069 - so using this for emphatising section change is good ^^
01:18:069 - 01:27:669 - I don't really understand how you're mapping this part, and on what. Maybe it's better to just use a note every 4/1 ? It's really a calm part, and it does follow the strings.
Yeah I totally agree with you. I changed to 4/1 usage and following the flute :3
01:27:669 - 01:37:269 - with the current patterns used on this part. I really can't feel any ascending difficulty, with the ascending intensity of the song. I'd highly suggest you to start this part with really simple pattern, and use a little more complex each time the intensity increase.
Agree aswell fixed ~
[Kantan]
the 4/1 break would be actually better here : 00:28:869 - or here 00:30:069 - (using a 4/1 break, before your bookmark, or just after will be better)
Hmmm I was a little confused with this tbh. On a first instance I used the current one because there's the section change and I'd pref to map it cuz it's really high. Then I tried your suggest (second one) and I made some changes through the Kiai so I change to that.
01:12:969 (103) - 01:17:769 (108) - Better not use 1/1 on this part. This part is currently more calm than the previous one (and previous one doesn't have any 1/1)
Hmmm since I'm following the drum I think current one is better; there's a real calm part compared to 00:58:869 - . You can hear the flute difference
I'd say, it'd be better to delete those note : 01:31:569 (120,121) - 01:33:969 (125) - for a better density increase according to the intensity increase from the song.
tbh I just pref deleting 01:31:569 (120) - according to your same reason
01:55:869 (21) - I'd say, better let 4/1 break before starting your kiai.
I pref holding current one since there's already a 4/1 break on 01:58:869 - and isn't that dense imo. Also it breaks a little the current consistency and there's a good sound that deserves to be mapped on 01:55:869 (21) -
01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - your 4/1 break on this kiai is quite strange in my opinion. Better use the same structure as the 1st kiai, of if you want something different, try to find something more consistent.
I made some changes on this ^^
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~~I'm still not done. Just sleeping a while & I'll finish your mod!~~
Later than expected, but I'm now done!
good luck!

Really thanks for modding! Thanks for wishing luck aswell lol

Last edited by Aisha 2017-06-18T02:59:23+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Kith190

178 posts

Joined November 2015

Kith190 2017-06-17T18:07:26+00:00

Hi NM as asked here

[General]
Since Oni wasn't made by you it should be considered as a main part of your mapset and has to follow the star spread. The difference held between kantan , futsuu and muzu isn't the same as between muzu-oni and oni-inner so... try to fix the spread
[Kantan]
00:15:069 - change to k (?)
00:22:869 (25,26) - i think that one of those should be k
00:44:469 - this is a low tone so d
00:44:469 - here i would place k d k d
00:54:069 (81) - this is a low tone so d
01:36:669 - I think that d would follow better this part according to the sound of 01:31:269 (119,120,121) - and 01:33:669 (124,125,126) -
01:59:469 - here you should put something because later on you don't leave a rest as this one and there is an evident sound
02:09:069 - same ^

[Futsuu]
00:08:619 - place a k or move here this one 00:08:769 -
00:25:269 (53) - d
00:34:869 - d
00:36:969 - k
00:36:969 - k
01:52:269 - k
02:00:969 (16,17) - control + g would be better to play
02:03:369 (24,25) - same ^
02:10:269 (47) - d for same reason^

[Muzukashii]
00:15:369 (37) - k
00:17:769 - k
00:27:369 - same sound as 00:28:569 -
00:51:369 - k (?)
01:34:569 (349) - i would suggest k
01:58:569 - k as 01:57:369 -
02:03:369 - same ^

[_yu68's Oni]
Pretty cool like this! there's only the problem I mentioned in General ^^

[Inner Oni]
here I would change just a pair of notes maybe nor worth mentioning. Nice work!

Hope this was helpful! Good luck for ranking!!

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-06-18T03:25:43+00:00

Jaltzu wrote:
Hello, M4M from my queue Hey Jalt :3 thanks for comming!

Muzu
00:20:319 - I feel like there should be k here.
I would prefer a break before kiai instead making this that complex ;
00:23:319 (72) - Change to k since the sound is same as in 00:23:019 (70,71) -
fixed lol
00:24:969 (82) - Change to d to make it more distinct from 00:24:669 (80) -
but both sounds at same pitch I can feel :p holding ^^
00:29:469 (106) - Change to d because the pitch rises significantly at 00:29:619 (107) -
hahah I did on Kin mod so thanks for noticing too
00:40:869 (166) - k fits way better imo.
I think that could rest some importance of current k d who are following descendant rhythm :p
00:42:069 (170) - ↑
^
00:42:369 (171,172) - dk
Fixed
00:44:769 (182) - Change to d and move to 00:45:069. Fits the rhythm better
since I'm currently following drums instead the piano (or what the fuck that is) holding the current one is better specially talking about consistency
00:45:669 (185) - k
Same reason as above ; ;
00:46:869 (189,190,191,192,193) - Maybe this instead:

Wow that feels really good. Fixed even I'm not sure talking about consistency with that o:
00:48:369 (194,195,196) - k k d
Hmm still about following drums instead the cymbal ; w
01:08:169 (289,290,291) - kkk
Agree and changed next one to D
01:36:669 (358) - d to emphasize pitch change at 01:36:969 (359) -
Fixed
01:37:269 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384) - The number of unmapped
sounds in this part makes it feel kinda awkward. Maybe add a few doubles or something?
It's such a calm section... I think there's not neccesity to overmap this since the real fast part starts from 01:46:869 - and there's not a real fast sound to overmap

Inner Oni
00:09:519 Add k
I think that isn't neccesary. I got your point since there's a real slight cymbal sound but I would prefer to hold it since there's the slow part and that could be overmapped
00:14:469 (48,49,50,51,52) - I think ddkkd fits the pitch changes better.
I think current kkddk is fine since there's an ascendant rhythm according to drums (specially at 00:14:469 (48,52) - as kat)
00:30:969 (194) - Change to k
Fixed cuz kick
00:33:369 (216) - ↑
Already made ^^
00:35:769 (238) - ↑
^
00:38:169 (260) - ↑
^
00:38:469 (262,263,264,265,266,267) - I like kdd kkd better.
I agree with using kkd on the first pattern but second one needs to start with don since there's ascendant sound so if I use kat on first notes that will loss real importance
00:46:869 (324,325,326) - I think this should be ddd both to match lower pitch/volume and to emphasize 00:48:069 (332,333,334) -
Hmmm nah this one 00:47:169 (324) - is really higher compared to two next notes so k d d is fine imo
00:53:769 (377,378) - Ctrl+G
b...but they're both kats lol xD
00:57:969 (410) - k
fixed~
01:12:969 (497) - d to distinguish it from 01:12:819 (496) -
not currently neccesary since that emphatises next dons that are being used for the ascendant section change^^
Overall, pretty solid mapset. Not sure how much of my feedback is actually useful at this point, but hope it helps at least a bit. GL for rank.

Thanks about comment! Your feedback was really helpful so thanks for modding boy : D D

Kith190 wrote:
Hi NM as asked here Hi! Thanks for coming ^^
[General]
Since Oni wasn't made by you it should be considered as a main part of your mapset and has to follow the star spread. The difference held between kantan , futsuu and muzu isn't the same as between muzu-oni and oni-inner so... try to fix the spread
The current spread is fine imo. Even SR isn't that main problem on this current note difference is good between diffs (acceptable maybe xD. So I don't get why you're wondering about the lower diff spread ;
[Kantan]
00:15:069 - change to k (?)
I think that's so high for that section. By using kat that could be a little strong compared to the current d d d so I'll hold it ^^
00:22:869 (25,26) - i think that one of those should be k
I don't feel like one of them have a different pitch than the other tbh :c
00:44:469 - this is a low tone so d
Agree! Also consistency with 00:39:669 (59) -
00:44:469 - here i would place k d k d
I pref having a consistency and using some 4/1 breaks instead overmapping it :p
00:54:069 (81) - this is a low tone so d
I feel like there's a difference about this 00:49:269 (73) - and the before ones. The one you're pointing has almost the same pitch than this so it would be nice if I hold because consistency aswell
01:36:669 - I think that d would follow better this part according to the sound of 01:31:269 (119,120,121) - and 01:33:669 (124,125,126) -
But there's not reason to make them difference since they have the same pitch ; ;
01:59:469 - here you should put something because later on you don't leave a rest as this one and there is an evident sound
Kind of same comment as above. 4/1 breaks are pretty neccesary on a 200 bpm song so it would be so dense if I don't leave it
02:09:069 - same ^
^
[Futsuu]
00:08:619 - place a k or move here this one 00:08:769 -
Uhh... that would be so hard for the beggining imo :c. Let's let some action for Kiai
00:25:269 (53) - d
Why? D: there's no reason to make it different to 00:20:469 (38) - since it's a high pitch compared to 00:22:869 (46) -
00:34:869 - d
^
00:36:969 - k
^
00:36:969 - k
^
01:52:269 - k
^ (also I don't get why you suggest to change'em ;
02:00:969 (16,17) - control + g would be better to play
^
02:03:369 (24,25) - same ^
^
02:10:269 (47) - d for same reason^
There's the same pitch on the three notes so it emphatises next don ^^
[Muzukashii]
00:15:369 (37) - k
I think using current d d is fine according to drum and guitar. There's not neccesity to use k d to emphatise descendant sound imo ^^
00:17:769 - k
^
00:27:369 - same sound as 00:28:569 -
The first one is really low compared to second. This helps at focusing on the ascendant pitch
00:51:369 - k (?)
But there's no reason to do ; ; I don't get why since it's low pitch :p
01:34:569 (349) - i would suggest k
I made another changes here instead that :3
01:58:569 - k as 01:57:369 -
02:03:369 - same ^
According to same reason I wrote above I'll hold them ^^
[Inner Oni]
here I would change just a pair of notes maybe nor worth mentioning. Nice work!
ThaNks! :3

Hope this was helpful! Good luck for ranking!!

Thanks for modding! It was helpful even I didn't accept at all it helped me for retaking a look

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2017-06-18T04:00:44+00:00

Sylphi wrote:
[_yu68's Oni]
00:47:919 (261) - 変な所にマップされた感じがちょっとあるので、00:47:769に移したほうがいいんじゃないかと… moved
01:13:869 (400) - この辺は何を基準でマップしたのかよくわかりませんが、一応メロディー基準で見ると、ここよりは01:14:169のほうが曲には合うんです。スネアのような音を基準に、単調にならないようにするために様々なパターンを使っています。01:08:769 - や01:13:569 - などはスネアのような音を無視して3/2を使うことで、breakの役割を持たせています。
01:16:269 (411) - これも似た感じです、ここよりは01:16:569がいいんじゃないかと… 同様にkeepとさせていただきます

Kin wrote:
[yu]

~~02:20:469 - You can just end spinner here .~~ fixed
Nice diff! thanks <3

Jaltzu wrote:
Oni
00:11:169 (22,23,24) + 00:13:569 (36,37,38) + 00:15:969 (51,52,53) - I feel like these could be d k k instead keep to show drum sounds
00:14:469 (42,43,44,45,46) - d k k d k fits better imo. keep because of same reason
00:45:819 (251) - k for the background drum sound? changed
00:51:819 (284) - k so that it matches 00:49:419 (270) - keep for diversity
I like this pattern: Add k to 01:09:369 , Ctrl+G to 01:09:519 (379,380) - (or both d) and change 01:09:969 (381) - to d i want to suppress long a little 1/2 to make this part as calmer
01:11:469 (388) - Move to 01:11:769 keep to fit snare
01:16:419 (412) - Change to d and add k to 01:16:569 keep because of same reason
01:45:969 (499,500,501,502,503,504) - d k k kdk Sounds better. keep to show drum sounds

Thanks mod

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davidminh0111

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davidminh0111 2017-06-20T09:16:22+00:00

Hello xfrac, from my modding queue:

[Kantan]
Your HP is too high, do 7 or 6.5 only

00:23:469: Change to k to flow better

00:37:869: ^

01:15:669:^ (not flow better, fit the pitch (slow down the song and you will get it or idk))

[Futsuu]
00:17:769: Add a note here to create a same amount of notes as the previous flow

00:24:969 (53 ,54): Ctrl + G to flow better. The k k will make it better : )

00:44:469 (114, 115): Ctrl + G again. Fit the pitch

[Muzukashii]
Well, good already

[_yu68's Oni]
00:25:719: kdk? I think it will fit the pitch and has a better flow on the previous note

00:36:819 to 00:37:119: Seems a little weird here. First, add k 00:36:819 in here and delete this note at 00:37:119 Idk, that's my opinion.

01:08:469: D ? Strong emphasis

02:04:119: How about kkd here to make a variation in 02:02:019 in this triplets

That's all, I didn't find any issue on Inner
Nice map, going for rank, GL xfrac.

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