Suzuki Konomi - Blow out [CatchTheBeat]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, 18 September, 2017 at 9:10:37 PM

Artist: Suzuki Konomi
Title: Blow out
Source: ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
Tags: Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor tv size op sc4 scavanger JBHyperion JBH Razor Sharp
BPM: 192
Filesize: 5638kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hyperion's Cup (1.53 stars, 184 notes)
  2. Hyperion's Rain (4.14 stars, 312 notes)
  3. Overdose (5.25 stars, 307 notes)
  4. Platter (2.88 stars, 261 notes)
  5. Razor's Extinction (5.33 stars, 293 notes)
  6. Salad (2.22 stars, 186 notes)


Download: Suzuki Konomi - Blow out
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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TOBASHITE BLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
For ranked, #18

Difficulty list
Hyperion's Cup - By JBHyperion
Salad - By me
Platter - By me
Hyperion's Rain - By JBHyperion
Overdose - By me
Razor's Extinction - By Razor Sharp
  1. 12/5/2017 - Submitted beatmap with Overdose finished.
  2. 16/5/2017 - Finished Salad.
  3. 7/6/2017 - Added Hyperion's Rain.
  4. 10/6/2017 - Finished Platter.
  5. 20/6/2017 - Added Hyperion's Cup, finished hitsounds for Salad and Cup.
  6. 13/7/2017 - Finished hitsounds for Platter, Rain and Overdose.
  7. 15/7/2017 - Added Razor's Extinction.
  8. 29/7/2017 - Applied Sh1n1's mod to Salad, Platter and Overdose.
  9. 8/8/2017 - Updated Hyperion's Cup and Rain, added HS to Razor's difficulty, added colours.
[*]5/9/2017 - Updated Razor's overdose.
[*]11/9/2017 - Applied Sinnoh's mod to Salad, Platter and Overdose.
[*]18/9/2017 - Applied Sinnoh's mod to JBH's diffs and murut's mod to all except Razor's.
-Sh1n1-


General
  1. are you sure you wanna go with default combo colours?
  2. copy hs to razor pls

Hyperion's Cup
  1. I think that the main problem on this difficulty is structure, there are some patterns like 00:57:512 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - that reminds me to salad, try to map this cup based on 1/1 to have a better spread, movements are ok but the current number of objects between salad and cup could be improved imo.
  2. 00:20:012 (3,4,5) - I know what are you following, but in terms of simplification, 4 notes in a row at 1/2 is too much for a lower diff imo, kinda weird that from cup to overdose, all the ones have the same amount of notes, so my suggestion is: remove 00:20:168 (4) -, if you want to add more enphasis and mark the difference with previous notes, change 00:19:387 (1,2) - into slider.
  3. 00:21:730 (3) - remove this note, intensity decreased a lot compared with previous section.
  4. 00:22:668 (3) - same here, remove please for a better spread.
  5. 00:24:387 (1,2) - this could be changed into 1 slider and the effect and movement will be the same.
  6. 00:25:480 (1,2) - 00:26:730 (1,2,3) - 00:28:762 (2,1) - too much vocal, don't you think? that's why there are lots of 1/2 rhythms, for example 00:29:230 (1) - sounds really weird cause 00:28:137 (1,2) - were following instrumental and then you suddenly change to vocal skipping 00:29:387 -.
  7. 00:31:262 (2) - change into 1 normal slider, like 00:30:637 (1) -
  8. I was thinking about the simplification in your patterns and 00:35:637 (1,2) - could be easily changed into 1 slider only.
  9. 00:38:762 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - check this part again thinking on spread.
    I'll stop here cause rest will be basically the same, I don't know if you will be agree with me uwu maybe you have another perspective about this diff and I don't want to make a wall of text repiting the same thing, if you read my previous points you will get my idea imo, also as I'm the first modder on the thread so you could get more opinions from other modders about it :3

Salad
  1. 00:21:730 (1,2) - the sound of 00:22:199 - is strongest than 00:22:043 -, so in my opinion, 00:21:730 (1) - should finish at 00:22:199 - and 00:22:355 (2) - should be removed too, sounds better tbh.
  2. 00:24:855 (2,3) - 00:26:105 (2,3) - 00:29:855 (2,3) - can you tell me please, what are you following with such notes? if it's vocal, I want to know why you changed to instrumental so sudden at 00:30:168 (3,4) -, following your previous patterns, 00:30:168 (3,4) - should be 1 slider.
  3. 00:30:793 (2) - you could talk with jbh about this part cause cup has more notes here.
  4. 00:32:668 (3,1) - keep the same distance but the current transition could confuse a newbie cause it is too straight, that's why I'll suggest you to press ctrl+g at 00:32:668 (3) -
  5. 00:38:762 (2,3,4) - change to 1 slider, first of all cause the current pattern feels overdone for a lower diff, second cause is a bit weird that salad have 3 notes while platter is 1 slider, spread issue.

Platter
  1. 00:14:230 (1,2) - reduce this distance, very unconfortable plus next transition is hdash, same at 01:18:605 (2,3) -
  2. 00:22:512 (3,4) - unconfortable transition plus the current distance between such objects are too long for this section, also I understand what you are trying to enphasize with distances but 00:22:199 (2,3,4) - is a linear transition and doesn't show your enphasis, if you move 00:22:668 (4) - to the left of 00:22:512 (3) - the movement will fit the song better.
  3. 00:25:480 - high vocal pitch plus an strong intrumental, feels underenphasized at gameplay, I recommend you to add a note on 00:25:324 - and add a jump between the note added and 00:25:480 (1) -.
  4. 00:27:512 (3,4,1) - jump with hyperdas in a row is too much for a platter, reduce distance between 00:27:512 (3,4) -
  5. 00:31:340 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - it's minor but add a better curve here, looks unsightly in gameplay.
  6. 00:29:699 - add a note, similar suggestion as 00:25:480 -, take a look to 00:26:105 (3,4,1) - as a reference.
  7. 00:38:137 - strong sound, finish, NC and the beginning of the second half of this section, it definitely deserve hdash, but as we know, hdash on 1/4 at platter is unrankable, so I strongly recommend you to simplify the density of notes here and remove 00:38:058 (5) -.
  8. 00:49:699 (2,3,4) - I was waiting for more distances here cause intensity is increasing and is working as a prelude of kiai.
  9. 00:52:512 - isn't stronger than sounds around there, why 00:52:199 (2,3) - have more distance? reduce it please, In the other hand, 00:52:199 (2,3) - could be reduced around 2.50x, move 00:52:824 (5,6) - to the left keeping consistency on distance with the previous 2 notes to reflect the build-up mentioned above, up to you :3
  10. 01:08:762 (3,4) - jump should be at 01:09:230 - as you did with 01:10:012 (3,1) - 01:11:574 (4,1) -, so I suggest you to remove 01:09:152 (5) - cause 1/4 hdashes are not allowed in platter, I know that there is a beat at 01:09:152 - but skipping it is better, for spread and consistency with next patterns, also reduce the distance between 01:08:762 (3,4) -.

Hyperion's Rain
  1. 00:24:387 (1,2) - hdash should be removed imo, there isn't a sound at 00:24:699 - that deserves the current distance, what do you think about moving the hyperdash between 00:25:324 (4,1) -
  2. 00:25:480 (1) - don't you think is too long for a rain diff? you could finish it at 00:25:793 - and then add a note on 00:25:949 -.
  3. 00:48:449 (3,4) - unnecessary hdash, consistency with 00:45:637 (1,2) -
  4. 00:53:137 - this sound is strong enough to have a movement, also I think that is better to put the hdash here instead of 00:52:980 -, it's very noticeable at gameplay.
  5. 00:56:574 (4,1) - missing hdash? currently from 00:55:480 - to 00:58:605 - there isn't enough hdashes and is a little weird cause the second kiai have a bunch of them

Overdose
  1. 00:22:668 (5) - isn't this a good place to add double hdash? I mean the sound of 00:22:668 - and 00:22:824 - are quite similar.
  2. 00:32:668 (2,3,4,1) - hard to play uwu, specially cause the antiflow at 00:32:668 (2,3) -, if you press ctrl+g at 00:32:668 (2,3,4,1) - the movement is much better and you keep your hdashes.
  3. Don't underappreciate the sound of 00:53:137 -, I think that is strong enough to deserve a hyperdash too, it will give a better movement cause there is a mini break after it, you could remove the hyperdash between 00:52:824 (5,6) - and then add the hyperdash between 00:52:980 (6,1) -, test it and you will confirm that fit the song better.
  4. 01:23:762 (4,5) - actually the sound of 01:23:918 - is underenphasized when 01:23:762 - 01:23:918 - and 01:24:074 - sound exactly the same, to fix it, 01:24:074 (5) - should be to the left side (keeping distances), I know that there isn't enough distance, so you can move previous notes keeping your distances, adding more distance between 01:22:824 (4,1) - (is hdash currently so it doesn't matter if you increase the distance +0.20x or +0.30x), so you could move 01:22:980 (1,2,3) - more to the left, then rotate 01:23:449 (2,3) - to move 01:23:762 (4) - this more to the right, now you have enough space imo.
    wow fun overdose, good job here.

Razor's Extinction
  1. 00:11:262 (3) - doesn't fit the song propertly, change into an 1/2 slider with reverse as you did on 00:13:762 (3) - or something like 00:16:262 (3,4) - but the current 1/1 slider feels weird.
  2. 00:15:012 (4,5) - I was waiting an hdash here cause this is the last diff.
  3. 00:22:980 (1,2) - first of all, the current hdash is unnecessary cause there isn't a prominent sound at 00:23:293 - that deserve it, second, 00:22:980 (1) - should be changed into a 1/1 slider to follow intruments better
  4. I don't know if you followed my previous suggestion but 00:23:293 (2) - and 00:23:605 (3) - are off, they should be at 00:23:449 - and 00:23:762 - respectively
  5. 00:31:574 (3,1) - as a part of the end of the stream I was waiting for more distance than 00:31:418 (2,3) - reconsider to increase the distance between 00:31:574 (3,1) - a bit more pls.
  6. 00:52:980 (7) - well I should be consistant with my advices and as I suggested on rain and overdose, I feel that you guys are underappreciating the sound of 00:53:137 -, I think that is strong enough to deserve a hyperdash too, it will give a better movement cause it's the last note of the intense part and there is a mini break after it, in this case, what do you think about removing the hyperdash between 00:52:824 (6,7) -, change 00:52:980 (7) - into note and add a hyperdash between them, it will fit the song better imo, I tested it and plays really good, that's why I'm suggesting, but the last decision is yours.

as a part of our m4m, sorry for the loooooong delay uwu, feel free to call me when you get 12 sp, have a nice day.
Topic Starter
Sc4v4ng3r

-Sh1n1- wrote:



General
  1. are you sure you wanna go with default combo colours? Lol I forgot about those, now they are set xd
  2. copy hs to razor pls I was busy and stuff so yea did that

Salad
  1. 00:21:730 (1,2) - the sound of 00:22:199 - is strongest than 00:22:043 -, so in my opinion, 00:21:730 (1) - should finish at 00:22:199 - and 00:22:355 (2) - should be removed too, sounds better tbh. Oh nice, albeit the fact that I was only following e.guitar xd
  2. 00:24:855 (2,3) - 00:26:105 (2,3) - 00:29:855 (2,3) - can you tell me please, what are you following with such notes? if it's vocal, I want to know why you changed to instrumental so sudden at 00:30:168 (3,4) -, following your previous patterns, 00:30:168 (3,4) - should be 1 slider. Tru, I like to do this but ok did that
  3. 00:30:793 (2) - you could talk with jbh about this part cause cup has more notes here. Idk whatever we discuss I don't want to change this, mainly because I think the long slider emphasizes the whole stream better than just 'unfinished 1/2 notes in a 1/4 stream' type of rhythm.
  4. 00:32:668 (3,1) - keep the same distance but the current transition could confuse a newbie cause it is too straight, that's why I'll suggest you to press ctrl+g at 00:32:668 (3) - I think the timeframe is ample enough for the newbies to read these notes cause there's a 1 measure gap, which is still quite big in this BPM at least. Plus both of them following the same direction might actually help them rather, because anti-flow dash after a short pause could also come as sudden too.
  5. 00:38:762 (2,3,4) - change to 1 slider, first of all cause the current pattern feels overdone for a lower diff, second cause is a bit weird that salad have 3 notes while platter is 1 slider, spread issue. Uhh how to I put this... It's like I followed more toward the drum beats in Salad mainly because they are simple enough and they provide occasional 1 beat gap for the newbies to follow, while in Platter I followed the vocals + filler drums(whenever possible) to up the note density. Long story short the main emphasis in these 2 difficulties are different. Because of that I would not like to change this, unless more people suggest that is.

Platter
  1. 00:14:230 (1,2) - reduce this distance, very unconfortable plus next transition is hdash, same at 01:18:605 (2,3) - Tried to make stuff more harder here but I guess it turned out the wrong way xD
  2. 00:22:512 (3,4) - unconfortable transition plus the current distance between such objects are too long for this section, also I understand what you are trying to enphasize with distances but 00:22:199 (2,3,4) - is a linear transition and doesn't show your enphasis, if you move 00:22:668 (4) - to the left of 00:22:512 (3) - the movement will fit the song better. Oh yea you're right, done both reducing distance & repatterning
  3. 00:25:480 - high vocal pitch plus an strong intrumental, feels underenphasized at gameplay, I recommend you to add a note on 00:25:324 - and add a jump between the note added and 00:25:480 (1) -. That white tick has only hi hat there, which is resounding throughout this section. Vocals are mostly all landing on the red ticks instead.
  4. 00:27:512 (3,4,1) - jump with hyperdas in a row is too much for a platter, reduce distance between 00:27:512 (3,4) - Yes sir
  5. 00:31:340 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - it's minor but add a better curve here, looks unsightly in gameplay. Idk what's wrong with the curve but did some minor things I guess
  6. 00:29:699 - add a note, similar suggestion as 00:25:480 -, take a look to 00:26:105 (3,4,1) - as a reference. Same reason like above.
  7. 00:38:137 - strong sound, finish, NC and the beginning of the second half of this section, it definitely deserve hdash, but as we know, hdash on 1/4 at platter is unrankable, so I strongly recommend you to simplify the density of notes here and remove 00:38:058 (5) -. Rip my stream :(
  8. 00:49:699 (2,3,4) - I was waiting for more distances here cause intensity is increasing and is working as a prelude of kiai. Spaced them out a lil bit more, should look actually emphasized more now
  9. 00:52:512 - isn't stronger than sounds around there, why 00:52:199 (2,3) - have more distance? reduce it please, In the other hand, 00:52:199 (2,3) - could be reduced around 2.50x, move 00:52:824 (5,6) - to the left keeping consistency on distance with the previous 2 notes to reflect the build-up mentioned above, up to you :3 Uhh yea that's pretty much the point of it lol, since the 'strongest' of the snare sounds are around the downbeat, I made a dash there. You could think of it as giving more intensity to the intense part without making it too hard using hypers.
  10. 01:08:762 (3,4) - jump should be at 01:09:230 - as you did with 01:10:012 (3,1) - 01:11:574 (4,1) -, so I suggest you to remove 01:09:152 (5) - cause 1/4 hdashes are not allowed in platter, I know that there is a beat at 01:09:152 - but skipping it is better, for spread and consistency with next patterns, also reduce the distance between 01:08:762 (3,4) -. Ok for this one though, I really don't wanna change it. The stream? Sure, I mean the last few hits on the snare drum eventually will get softer cause the first few hits can overpower the last few hits, so missing out a note is fine there, but this is a clear triplet, where it is wrong to remove it entirely. Standard does a similar thing where if there's a triplet with an important downbeat, they make a stack and jump, so it's kind of a mimic to that. The snares here are loud enough(remove the hitsounds, they are still quite loud lol) to justify at least a dash so I did that.
    Well tl;dr is that I feel the rhythm is more important to preserve here for the correct emphasis on the prominent instruments.

Overdose
  1. 00:22:668 (5) - isn't this a good place to add double hdash? I mean the sound of 00:22:668 - and 00:22:824 - are quite similar. Not too sure right now cause a double hyper means a triple hyper combined with 00:22:512 (4,5,1) - these 3 notes, which I don't think I still want in a lower overdose lol
  2. 00:32:668 (2,3,4,1) - hard to play uwu, specially cause the antiflow at 00:32:668 (2,3) -, if you press ctrl+g at 00:32:668 (2,3,4,1) - the movement is much better and you keep your hdashes. I kinda don't get what you mean cause ctrl+g on all those notes screw the rhythm up, so I did something that is a little bit more easier? I think. I hope
  3. Don't underappreciate the sound of 00:53:137 -, I think that is strong enough to deserve a hyperdash too, it will give a better movement cause there is a mini break after it, you could remove the hyperdash between 00:52:824 (5,6) - and then add the hyperdash between 00:52:980 (6,1) -, test it and you will confirm that fit the song better. Yeaaa I tried but I'm not into this reverse emphasis, imo (1)'s overall strength compared to others are extremely low (snare + kick vs only hi-hat) so I don't think I'm opting for a hyper there. Instead I made (6) into a vertical 1/2 slider like Razor's difficulty which feels better.
  4. 01:23:762 (4,5) - actually the sound of 01:23:918 - is underenphasized when 01:23:762 - 01:23:918 - and 01:24:074 - sound exactly the same, to fix it, 01:24:074 (5) - should be to the left side (keeping distances), I know that there isn't enough distance, so you can move previous notes keeping your distances, adding more distance between 01:22:824 (4,1) - (is hdash currently so it doesn't matter if you increase the distance +0.20x or +0.30x), so you could move 01:22:980 (1,2,3) - more to the left, then rotate 01:23:449 (2,3) - to move 01:23:762 (4) - this more to the right, now you have enough space imo. Mmmmmmmmm I tried your suggestion, as well as my own ideas here and there, but I can't get that note to be on trigger distance unless I put it in the very corner ;-; Also I want to keep my horizontal-ity for this section so I really don't want to rotate my sliders or anything so I feel like I wanna keep this for now ;-;
    wow fun overdose, good job here. Thanks <3 the first time someone actually said my overdose was fun

as a part of our m4m, sorry for the loooooong delay uwu, feel free to call me when you get 12 sp, have a nice day. It's fine, I might take longer so sorry in advance ;-;
Thanks for the mod!
Cause I still don't have enuf time to spare I'll HS razor's difficulty bit by bit.
Oh yea colours will also be added later cause busy af aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
JBHyperion

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Hyperion's Cup
  1. I think that the main problem on this difficulty is structure, there are some patterns like 00:57:512 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - that reminds me to salad, try to map this cup based on 1/1 to have a better spread, movements are ok but the current number of objects between salad and cup could be improved imo. Strictly following a 1/1 rhythm is exceedingly boring and would sound very awkward with this song considering the quantity of 1/2 rhythms present. I'd rather it was slightly denser than normal and actually followed the song properly, honestly. Basing spread solely on the number of objects is nonsensical.
  2. 00:20:012 (3,4,5) - I know what are you following, but in terms of simplification, 4 notes in a row at 1/2 is too much for a lower diff imo, kinda weird that from cup to overdose, all the ones have the same amount of notes, so my suggestion is: remove 00:20:168 (4) -, if you want to add more enphasis and mark the difference with previous notes, change 00:19:387 (1,2) - into slider. 00:20:012 (3,4,5,1) - Are all equally strong, skipping one of them makes little sense when the pattern is just as simple with or without (4). (1,2) are circles to give differentiation from 00:17:980 (1,2) - and previous, since they are all sharper sounds
  3. 00:21:730 (3) - remove this note, intensity decreased a lot compared with previous section. Combined with 00:21:730 (1) - instead, the red tick guitar is a more important sound
  4. 00:22:668 (3) - same here, remove please for a better spread. Same as before, the movement is so simple the slight increase in density is a non-factor in the difficulty
  5. 00:24:387 (1,2) - this could be changed into 1 slider and the effect and movement will be the same. But it fails to emphasise the equally strong vocals on the tail of (1) and circle (2). Again, density is not a factor in the difficulty when the movement will remain unchanged
  6. 00:25:480 (1,2) - 00:26:730 (1,2,3) - 00:28:762 (2,1) - too much vocal, don't you think? that's why there are lots of 1/2 rhythms, for example 00:29:230 (1) - sounds really weird cause 00:28:137 (1,2) - were following instrumental and then you suddenly change to vocal skipping 00:29:387 -. Don't see how it's weird, the vocal is stronger than the instrument so to me not mapping the vocal sounds weird. It's consistent throughout the section so there are no confusing rhythm changes, put this down to personal preference
  7. 00:31:262 (2) - change into 1 normal slider, like 00:30:637 (1) - Repeat slider emphasises the upcoming pause and reflects the equallyh strong drum sounds
  8. I was thinking about the simplification in your patterns and 00:35:637 (1,2) - could be easily changed into 1 slider only. Combining these skips an important vocal sound, what's the benefit?
  9. 00:38:762 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - check this part again thinking on spread. One of the places I mentioned that sounds weird without vocal mapping. The flow is especially simple to compensate. Don't see a spread issue here
    I'll stop here cause rest will be basically the same, I don't know if you will be agree with me uwu maybe you have another perspective about this diff and I don't want to make a wall of text repiting the same thing, if you read my previous points you will get my idea imo, also as I'm the first modder on the thread so you could get more opinions from other modders about it :3 tl;dr density does not necessarily equal difficulty. If you actually played the patterns instead of just highlighting every 1/2 chain and tried to see my intention for vocal mapping, you'd realise they are easy to play and probably make more sense than instrument mapping. Oh well :/

Hyperion's Rain
  1. 00:24:387 (1,2) - hdash should be removed imo, there isn't a sound at 00:24:699 - that deserves the current distance, what do you think about moving the hyperdash between 00:25:324 (4,1) - (2) is a sharp vocal sound, 00:25:480 (1) - is much softer. Current placement makes more sense to me and provides variety through cool vocal rhythms
  2. 00:25:480 (1) - don't you think is too long for a rain diff? you could finish it at 00:25:793 - and then add a note on 00:25:949 -. Too long? That's the length of the vocal sound though, why would I shorten it to overmap a weak sliderend?
  3. 00:48:449 (3,4) - unnecessary hdash, consistency with 00:45:637 (1,2) - This is obviously stronger than 00:46:262 (2) - I don't see why this wouldn;t deserve a hyper at all
  4. 00:53:137 - this sound is strong enough to have a movement, also I think that is better to put the hdash here instead of 00:52:980 -, it's very noticeable at gameplay. 00:53:137 - is a fade out of the guitar and cymbal on 00:52:980 - it's really not strong enough to warrant a jump of any kind imo
  5. 00:56:574 (4,1) - missing hdash? currently from 00:55:480 - to 00:58:605 - there isn't enough hdashes and is a little weird cause the second kiai have a bunch of them The second kiai is more intense and has stronger vocals, it's not weird at all. 00:57:199 (2,3) - could warrant a hyper though, so I guess I can add one there instead
Thanks for taking a look, though it feels like you didn't try to understand the mapping at all ):

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Source:ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
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Topic Starter
Sc4v4ng3r
All updated, added colours and finally added HS to Razor's difficulty. Just waiting on Razor's reply now.
@Razor Sharp - Also if you are seeing this, since I added HS to your difficulty, would be nice if you would update your difficulty first before replying.

Made some of the hitsounds consistent as well.
Razor Sharp

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Razor's Extinction


[*]I don't know if you followed my previous suggestion but 00:23:293 (2) - and 00:23:605 (3) - are off, they should be at 00:23:449 - and 00:23:762 - respectively - Not gonna change the pos of second slider. But followed prev suggestion.
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as a part of our m4m, sorry for the loooooong delay uwu, feel free to call me when you get 12 sp, have a nice day.
thanks for the mod!

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Source:ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
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Topic Starter
Sc4v4ng3r
K fixed up weird bug on BSS that made the whole map corrupted, and also updated Razor's diff
Ready to accept more mods~
Sinnoh
Jbh and sc4v I'd suggest removing nc at 01:29:230 (1) - for platter+, just check the difference ingame. imo better for fruits to clear on last note
Razor diff tags and title

Cup
00:14:230 (1,2) - 01:12:980 (1,2,3) - Same sounds but different rhythm, just use 3 circles and make sure 00:15:168 (3) - is still different
00:16:887 (1) - imo 1/1 sliders on 00:16:730 (3) - 00:17:355 (4) - cover this rhythm better but your choice
00:22:511 (2) - Could move to 00:22:355 since stronger sound
00:25:480 (1) - Should have same hitsound as 00:24:855 (2) - , or something
00:30:637 (1,2) - No hitsounds on this is very odd, if not wanted at least use low volume ones instead
00:39:855 (3) - Try to add a 1/1 gap bc there's none on high bpm
00:48:762 (2) - Wouldn't hurt to use same as 00:46:262 (2) - since higher density isn't that bad
01:15:012 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - this is exact same pattern 3x in a row lul
01:25:637 (1) - Would prefer lower slider velocity or horizontal sliders angled a bit so there's less movement on slow part.

Salad
Lower dash distance of 1/2 objects to a maximum of 3.0x, above that is too far. This applies to the whole diff
00:36:262 (2,3,4) - Rotate 30 degrees so it flows easier to 00:36:887 (1) -
00:54:230 (1) - Droplets are a bit too left, increase sv on this slider and move body to the right
and seems fine other than the first thing which is a major issue

Platter
00:41:730 (1) - There isn't enough movement to catch the slider end, move 00:42:199 (2) - right so player slows down movement a bit
00:51:574 (5,1) - Where is hyper pls
01:03:137 (1,2) - Suggest to remove dash for playability + less intense
01:07:512 (3,4) - Bit of a reading issue with overlapping sliders, try making these vertical so they are more distinct patterns

Rain
00:31:340 (2,3) - Could have more movement by moving some of these to the right
00:36:574 (4,1,2) - Reduce dash to 1 a bit, that + antiflow next is a bit much
01:07:668 (4,1,3) - Comparing these 3, 01:07:980 (1) - has the loudest sound on middle of slider and 01:07:668 (4) - is more quieter. Less of an issue wouldn't point out without previous thing, 01:07:980 (1,3) - are exact same shape. imo 01:08:605 (3) - would be C shaped slider just for different pitch
01:26:418 (6,7) - yea it's a dash but it's still a bit far just nerf

Overdose
00:09:855 (3) - Should be same as 00:09:230 (1) - since same sound
00:28:137 (1) - no hyperdashes in this section, should add one somewhere
00:51:730 (1) - imo using 1/1 slider here fits rhythm better
01:00:949 (2,3) - Distance quite far, reduce
01:05:012 (2) - increase sv for high movement before
01:27:512 (3,4) - reduce distance, relative spacing too high


Razor's Extinction
diff name doesn't make sense at all for context with anime or title, "Blow Out" isn't a death related explosion.
Read the lyrics lol, it's more of a spiritual energy explosion.

00:12:512 (1) - 00:20:949 (1,1,1) - 01:06:262 (1) - 01:07:512 (1) - Remove nc
00:16:574 (4,1,2,3,4) - Rhythm isn't following the song, using 7x 1/2 sliders just kinda ignores everything. This works better.
00:31:730 (1,2) - This should not be a hyper
00:29:387 (1,2) - Imo better to follow vocals here than guitar, much more prominent.
00:33:449 (2) - ok i won't ask you to map vocals again but this is what I'd do https://puu.sh/xvkw4/cee74c5642.png
00:46:261 (3) - Use circle + 3/4 slider, there's no sound on tail of reverse and overmaps
00:48:762 (3) - and this is identical pattern to ^ but has strong sound on each fruit. Just rotate this so it's horizontal, more movement for each fruit = more emphasis
00:51:261 (8) - this needs a hyper, current pattern doesn't follow vocals or instrument. just change this stream a bit
00:55:324 (4) - Vocal changes here, just rotate to go left for difference
01:07:980 (1) - Standstill is quite odd, rotate so middle of slider is left of head/tail
01:13:605 (3,4) - increase distance between these, a bit small
01:22:980 (1) - instrument on middle here is unmapped but is same intensity, should map.
01:27:512 (3,1,2,3) - these straight slider patterns are a bit repetitive, would suggest adding some vertical ones in, change movement or area for variation
Topic Starter
Sc4v4ng3r
Top diff's naming is a reference to the MC's special attack in the anime, 'Extinction Ray'. Here's a proof cause im lazy to make a gif out of that scene myself. I coulda just named the top diff exactly that lmao, maybe I shud

Will reply to this and return the mod tmmr.

Sinnoh wrote:

Jbh and sc4v I'd suggest removing nc at 01:29:230 (1) - for platter+, just check the difference ingame. imo better for fruits to clear on last note Ok did it for mine
Razor diff tags and title Ok

Salad
Lower dash distance of 1/2 objects to a maximum of 3.0x, above that is too far. This applies to the whole diff Eh alright
00:36:262 (2,3,4) - Rotate 30 degrees so it flows easier to 00:36:887 (1) - Alright
00:54:230 (1) - Droplets are a bit too left, increase sv on this slider and move body to the right Made it 1.1x, anymore would just go beyond the border
and seems fine other than the first thing which is a major issue

Platter
00:41:730 (1) - There isn't enough movement to catch the slider end, move 00:42:199 (2) - right so player slows down movement a bit Oh cool, done
00:51:574 (5,1) - Where is hyper pls Gone
01:03:137 (1,2) - Suggest to remove dash for playability + less intense Did something here
01:07:512 (3,4) - Bit of a reading issue with overlapping sliders, try making these vertical so they are more distinct patterns I think it's fine for now, considering how it shows the intensity of this part compared to the previous, and I believe the horizontal sliders keep the momentum better than vertical ones. Besides, making vertical sliders here means I have to rework on the following patterns which takes an eternity to do so I would want to avoid that.

Overdose
00:09:855 (3) - Should be same as 00:09:230 (1) - since same sound Fine fine, wanted variety here but ok
00:28:137 (1) - no hyperdashes in this section, should add one somewhere Added at 00:29:074 (5,1) - .
00:51:730 (1) - imo using 1/1 slider here fits rhythm better Since I am making hypers for every snare (except the following notes cause making hypers to all of them are overkill), using a 1/1 slider here means skipping 00:52:043 (2) - this snare, which I don't want.
01:00:949 (2,3) - Distance quite far, reduce Is it really? This dashing distance is even more shorter than the others so I don't see how is this too far.
01:05:012 (2) - increase sv for high movement before I did countless testplays on the kiai and this feels alright - adding increased SV here would make the later notes a little more difficult than I intended to.
01:27:512 (3,4) - reduce distance, relative spacing too high Reduced to 1.6x
Thanks for the mod!
murutattack
#M4M request :p

+ Disable widescreen support since no sb added.
+ Max Combo on HyperiCup is almost near as Salad but Platter combo spread sudden jump though but meh, just info :p (308 > 322 > 428 > 494)
00:09:543 (1,1,1) - Remove New Combo lel
00:20:949 (1,1,1,1) - ^
00:11:574 (5,1) - I wonder why this (5) isn`t H-dash cuz similar beats also have H-dash in this one.
00:23:605 (3) - Lessen a bit distance on kinda slow beat, kinda sudden ramp up distance after played for a while.
00:27:512 (4,5) - Looks a bit better if move a bit left side to less a bit anti-flow movement. (Like x:208)
00:45:949 (2) - I like if this end slider tilt a bit right, same goes as 00:48:449 (2) but left one.
01:12:824 (6,7) - Hmm... I wonder if you can make this one as note, but the 01:12:824 (6) move to x:504 and 01:12:980 (7) to x:84, kinda make beat climax or something, but idk, just opinion :p (cuz I like the flow on 00:09:230 (1,1,1) so this might be cool through).

Really fun diff btw :3
Nothing to see here c:
HP platter was 4, Overdose were HP 6, Rain was HP 6, change to HP 5 or 5.5 (if sc4vanger approve hp 5) better.

00:11:574 (4) - Hmm... High beat on 00:11:730 with Finish Hitsounding same goes with 01:15:324 (4)... I wonder if it was mapped just like 01:16:262 (5,6), like momentum beat was on the (6) notes. Just referrencing :p

So far, great :D
I wonder if this HP changed to 5 to balance HP spread.

00:12:824 (3) - Looks better if put H-Dash here.
00:19:387 (1,2) - Kinda sudden dash here with current beat, lessen a bit distance on both of this to x:232 might be ok.
00:27:199 (2,3) - Move a bit left on this both slider, kinda weird plays sudden dash on low beat.
00:51:574 (5) - Just wondering, why this isn`t H-Dash with really good beat here?
01:07:824 (4) - I wonder if this slider could add Jumping pattern or 01:08:137 (1) one cause there`s a good momentum on this section.

Not bad, maybe that was current style :p
00:12:512 (2) - Kinda too straight slider and dash required, Maybe better if make a bit tilted movements for this one, like a bit right.
00:22:980 (1) - Move a bit left to x:344, kinda high distance for this one.
00:30:168 (3) - Could use the same style as 00:12:512 (2) if did apply that mod.
00:38:137 (1) - ^ to x:248.
00:52:199 (2,3,4) - should add more distance, like 1.50x on (2,3) and 2.00x for (4) to catch (1).

Kinda hard salad (for new salad player) since it requires precise momentum on strong beat, but kinda unique :p
00:07:824 (1) - Hmm... Maybe better remove it cause Salad and platter doesn`t have (or keep it).
00:17:980 (1) - Little bit left to x:288, distance maybe kinda a bit less.
00:47:199 (2) - Add distance like move a bit right to x:56.
01:05:949 (2) - Add movement seems better than no movement note, like a bit left.

I have no complain, cuz cup is unique :p

Welp sorry for half-bad mod (maybe cuz i not mod half-month ago lel), at least this is what I can find,
Good luck for ranking :)
JBHyperion

Sinnoh wrote:

Jbh and sc4v I'd suggest removing nc at 01:29:230 (1) - for platter+, just check the difference ingame. imo better for fruits to clear on last note
Razor diff tags and title

Cup
00:14:230 (1,2) - 01:12:980 (1,2,3) - Same sounds but different rhythm, just use 3 circles and make sure 00:15:168 (3) - is still different the second set is noticeably stronger, hence why I separated it
00:16:887 (1) - imo 1/1 sliders on 00:16:730 (3) - 00:17:355 (4) - cover this rhythm better but your choice Guitar is more faint here, I prefer to follow the drums for the buildup
00:22:511 (2) - Could move to 00:22:355 since stronger sound Agreed, done
00:25:480 (1) - Should have same hitsound as 00:24:855 (2) - , or something Added
00:30:637 (1,2) - No hitsounds on this is very odd, if not wanted at least use low volume ones instead Whoops
00:39:855 (3) - Try to add a 1/1 gap bc there's none on high bpm Flow is very simple so wouldn't change much either way, this is not really an extended dense period I feel should pose a problem
00:48:762 (2) - Wouldn't hurt to use same as 00:46:262 (2) - since higher density isn't that bad Anything I add will pale in terms of intensity compared to 00:48:762 (2,3) - and detract from them, I'd rather not
01:15:012 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - this is exact same pattern 3x in a row lul Whoops not intentional, fixed
01:25:637 (1) - Would prefer lower slider velocity or horizontal sliders angled a bit so there's less movement on slow part. Done

Rain
00:31:340 (2,3) - Could have more movement by moving some of these to the right Made it a bit more curvy
00:36:574 (4,1,2) - Reduce dash to 1 a bit, that + antiflow next is a bit much I don't find this excessive, reducing it leaves it feeling underwhelming
01:07:668 (4,1,3) - Comparing these 3, 01:07:980 (1) - has the loudest sound on middle of slider and 01:07:668 (4) - is more quieter. Less of an issue wouldn't point out without previous thing, 01:07:980 (1,3) - are exact same shape. imo 01:08:605 (3) - would be C shaped slider just for different pitch Not sure what you're getting at here, (1) is a strong vocal sound compared to the downbeat which is weak. Fixed up some slider shapes and flow here for sexy variety though
01:26:418 (6,7) - yea it's a dash but it's still a bit far just nerf same as before, I feel this is fine

murutattack wrote:

#M4M request :p

+ Disable widescreen support since no sb added.
+ Max Combo on HyperiCup is almost near as Salad but Platter combo spread sudden jump though but meh, just info :p (308 > 322 > 428 > 494) My diff is still much easier, even if it's quite dense. Combo count isn't everything
HP platter was 4, Overdose were HP 6, Rain was HP 6, change to HP 5 or 5.5 (if sc4vanger approve hp 5) better. Ok went with HP5

00:11:574 (4) - Hmm... High beat on 00:11:730 with Finish Hitsounding same goes with 01:15:324 (4)... I wonder if it was mapped just like 01:16:262 (5,6), like momentum beat was on the (6) notes. Just referrencing :p Changed this up for consistency

So far, great :D
00:07:824 (1) - Hmm... Maybe better remove it cause Salad and platter doesn`t have (or keep it). I'd rather keep it, the drums are very strong here
00:17:980 (1) - Little bit left to x:288, distance maybe kinda a bit less. Gave it more spacing
00:47:199 (2) - Add distance like move a bit right to x:56. Done
01:05:949 (2) - Add movement seems better than no movement note, like a bit left. Done

I have no complain, cuz cup is unique :p

Welp sorry for half-bad mod (maybe cuz i not mod half-month ago lel), at least this is what I can find,
Good luck for ranking :)
Thanks for the mods, both of you! (:

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Source:ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
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Topic Starter
Sc4v4ng3r

murutattack wrote:

#M4M request :p I'll get to your mod when you finish replying to AZ's mod

+ Disable widescreen support since no sb added. Since there is no sb this is pretty much useless to do, as it doesn't do anything without it anyways.
+ Max Combo on HyperiCup is almost near as Salad but Platter combo spread sudden jump though but meh, just info :p (308 > 322 > 428 > 494) kek
Nothing to see here c: :P
I wonder if this HP changed to 5 to balance HP spread. O tru, forgot to change lul

00:12:824 (3) - Looks better if put H-Dash here. Hyper into dash will be too hard for players in this skill level so I would avoid it. Besides, looking 'good' doesn't really justify a use of hyper if the music doesn't support it lul
00:19:387 (1,2) - Kinda sudden dash here with current beat, lessen a bit distance on both of this to x:232 might be ok. M'kay
00:27:199 (2,3) - Move a bit left on this both slider, kinda weird plays sudden dash on low beat. Dashes are following the snares so they aren't sudden by any means.
00:51:574 (5) - Just wondering, why this isn`t H-Dash with really good beat here? As I didn't cut off any notes from the stream, just cutting off 1 note on the blue tick for a hyper wouldn't really make sense. Technically I could go until a dash but the movement will look much more confusing due to the sudden increase in note density.
01:07:824 (4) - I wonder if this slider could add Jumping pattern or 01:08:137 (1) one cause there`s a good momentum on this section. Sure the vocal's strong but the supporting instrument's aren't, so there are no dashes to show this in the music. Not adding for the second one too as I was adding dashes on downbeats which had cymbals, but that 1 note didn't.

Not bad, maybe that was current style :p
00:12:512 (2) - Kinda too straight slider and dash required, Maybe better if make a bit tilted movements for this one, like a bit right. Either way, this will still pretty much play out as a stand-still movement - the core concept won't change. Sure some players might move a little more towards the right which could help, but due to the low movement they will have to make small taps towards the right(which is uncomfortable). Also doing that reduces the dashing distance which can appear ambiguous.
00:22:980 (1) - Move a bit left to x:344, kinda high distance for this one. Opps I missed this one out, ok
00:30:168 (3) - Could use the same style as 00:12:512 (2) if did apply that mod. Actually instead I'll make this more vertical cause that straight slider makes everything more awkward lul
00:38:137 (1) - ^ to x:248. But not for this one as this section already has high innate movement already, it should be fine.
00:52:199 (2,3,4) - should add more distance, like 1.50x on (2,3) and 2.00x for (4) to catch (1). Oh nice, applied

Kinda hard salad (for new salad player) since it requires precise momentum on strong beat, but kinda unique :p Platter's already quite complex with how dashes and hypers are used so had to make the salad harder than usual xd

Welp sorry for half-bad mod (maybe cuz i not mod half-month ago lel), at least this is what I can find,
Good luck for ranking :)Hey any suggestions helps, no prob
Thanks for the mod! Updated with JBH's update.
@JBH - Idk why but everytime I copy paste your updated codes into the .osu file, your difficulty name, song title and artist appears without spaces so I had to manually edit them. You might need to redl cause maybe game thinks the meta is different lul
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murutattack

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Thats not how it works my friend.
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