IRC discussion with Lan Wings and sheela about a rhythm
04:14 Net0: Hey Lan if you have sometime I'd like to ask you one thing
04:15 Lan wings: sure
04:16 Net0: would you take a look at a map I did? It has a bubble now and I was interested in knowing your thoughts over the mapping
04:16 Net0: 1:30 min long
04:16 Net0: not modding
04:16 Net0: like giving opinions and advice
04:16 Net0: or anything really
04:16 Net0: :>
04:16 Lan wings: k
04:18 Lan wings: np?
04:18 *Net0 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1290934 Utsu-P - P.O.R.N.O. [Kegare]]
04:18 Net0: lol the "k" was actually "ok"?
04:18 Net0: x.x
04:18 Net0: yeah funny song name
04:19 Lan wings: yes
04:20 Lan wings: :DDD
04:20 Lan wings: so sex
04:20 Net0: it's not related to that :>
04:21 Lan wings: all diff
04:21 Lan wings: ?
04:21 Net0: only Kegare
04:21 Net0: like I don't need mod
04:21 *Lan wings is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1290934 Utsu-P - P.O.R.N.O. [Kegare]]
04:21 Net0: just general opinions
04:25 Lan wings: pattern style a little old
04:25 Net0: I like old maps a lot
04:25 Net0: so yeah :3
04:27 Lan wings: like 2010~2012 style?
04:27 Net0: yes
04:27 Net0: or even older
04:28 Net0: but I can't ignore modern maps concepts so I'm trying to come up with my own thing
04:29 Lan wings: 01:18:865 (6) -
04:29 Lan wings: this circle is hard to read
04:29 Net0: Agree
04:29 *Lan wings is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/25580 Rhapsody - Emerald Sword [Extreme]]
04:30 Lan wings: maybe 2008+ ._.
04:30 Net0: that mapping is mostly not acceptable anymore x.x
04:31 Net0: but I can't stand the fact that linear motion is like not used anymore
04:31 Net0: it's not like it stopped working people just don't want to map like that
04:31 Net0: even tho it works and I like it a lot
04:32 *Net0 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/99465 Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin]]
04:32 Net0: you probably know this one
04:32 Lan wings: yes i know
04:33 Lan wings: 01:18:992 (7) - maybe this slider add a NC is better
04:33 Net0: All right I'll do that
04:33 Lan wings: 01:19:247 (1,2) - and this rhythm
04:34 Lan wings: 01:19:247 (1) - this slider
04:35 Lan wings: slider end is in white line
04:35 Net0: 01:19:501 - there is no important sound there
04:36 Net0: the song is really odd in terms of rhythm
04:36 Net0: vocal is off with instrumentals and stuff
04:37 Lan wings: https://puu.sh/wW1VY/0e30db5fdf.png
04:37 Lan wings: white line should not be used sliderend
04:38 Net0: but sliderends are for weak sounds I suppose
04:38 Net0: the snare is on the red tick
04:38 Net0: the white tick there lands on nothing really
04:39 Lan wings: this is a downbeat
04:39 Lan wings: can't use slider end
04:40 Net0: I'll try to be more clear; 01:19:247 (1,2) - there are 4 sounds mapped here
04:41 Net0: 01:19:247 - /01:19:374 - /01:19:501 - /01:19:628 -
04:41 Net0: 01:19:247 (1) - finish+whistle because of instrumental and vocals
04:41 Net0: 01:19:374 - clap because of snare sound
04:41 Net0: 01:19:628 (2) - kick sound
04:42 Net0: 01:19:501 - empty gap
04:42 Net0: but I can understand your concern with the downbeat filler rhythm
04:42 Lan wings: i would use 4 circle or 2 slider
04:43 Lan wings: oh
04:43 Lan wings: I listened carefully
04:43 Lan wings: try this
04:43 Lan wings: o - - o
04:44 Lan wings: https://puu.sh/wW27B/db055f8fbe.png
04:44 Net0: http://puu.sh/wW281.jpg
04:44 Net0: wait
04:45 Lan wings: 01:19:247 (8) - circle 01:19:374 (9) - slider 01:19:628 (10) - circle
04:45 Lan wings: this is
04:45 Lan wings: this is good*
04:45 Net0: circle slider circle
04:46 Net0: could be circle+slider 1/1
04:46 Net0: bah
04:46 Net0: circle+slider+circle
04:47 Net0: I'll try to think how to re-organize the pattern now
04:47 Lan wings: and
04:48 Lan wings: normal-hitwhistle is
04:48 Lan wings: NoisyDMhel:
04:48 Lan wings: oh
04:48 Lan wings: noisy*
04:48 Net0: I know
04:48 Lan wings: i click "tab"
04:49 Net0: yeah don't worry
04:49 Lan wings: you need find something hitsound
04:49 Net0: you're changing your chinese keyboard to the indo-arabic alphabet to talk with me
04:49 Net0: really crazy
04:50 Net0: I like the whistles x.x
04:51 Lan wings: very noisy _(:з」∠)_
04:51 Lan wings: 00:47:213 (1) -
04:51 Lan wings: 00:47:213 (1) - ~00:58:145 (2) - this part
04:52 Net0: I'll reduce whistle volume there
04:52 Net0: if that's the case
04:53 Lan wings: nice
04:55 Net0: in the end you're modding xD
04:55 Lan wings: not mod
04:55 Lan wings: just a little suggest
04:56 Net0: like my goal was seeing what would be your main impression
04:56 Net0: and I think you see this as an old 2012 style map
04:56 Lan wings: hmmm
20:06 Net0: Hey sheela if you're available a.t.m I'd like to show you one modification suggested in a mapset you modded from me sometime ago
20:06 Net0: (just in case you're up to re-bub)
20:06 sheela: ook
20:07 Net0: So can I like point you where the modification will happen and share the .osu so you can see it yourself?
20:08 sheela: yeah sure
20:08 Net0: 01:18:484 - ~ 01:19:755 -
20:08 Net0: I discussed with Lan Wings and he suggested a rhythm change there
20:08 Net0: https://puu.sh/xqRd3.osu
20:09 Net0: like it's really "minor"
20:09 Net0: but at the same time I think you should check it
20:10 Net0: basically having this 01:19:374 - clickable makes more sense in his point of view
20:11 sheela: ook i approve this change
20:13 sheela: still haven't found a t2 bn? :<
20:13 Net0: no
20:13 Net0: kinda impossible
20:13 Net0: all of them reject my requests
20:13 sheela: ouch
20:14 Net0: So is it okay for you
20:14 Net0: this update?
20:14 sheela: yeah yeah
20:15 Net0: All right
20:15 sheela: i can rebub after
20:15 Net0: all right