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16:22 Jounzan: heeey sorry to bother, but would you mind to test my map?
16:22 Axarious: suresure
16:23 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/605523
16:23 Jounzan: also in case it's a lol i can give you a map we planned to use
16:23 Jounzan: in yaca mappool
16:23 Axarious: this map?
16:23 Jounzan: i was mapping it but found it too cancerous
16:23 Jounzan: no
16:23 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/657779
16:29 Jounzan: this is one i was talking about
16:29 Axarious: o
16:29 Axarious: that one's fun
16:29 Axarious: hehe
16:29 Jounzan: now it looks even harder
16:29 Jounzan: than it was before
16:29 Jounzan: lmao
16:30 Axarious: which one?
16:30 Axarious: i think they're both pretty hard LOL
16:33 Jounzan: the condemnation wings
16:33 Axarious: o
16:33 Jounzan: lol
16:33 Axarious: sliders are a little hard to read
16:33 Jounzan: yeah that was good decision to not add it to the mappol
16:33 Jounzan: lol
16:33 Axarious: haha
16:34 Jounzan: did you noted anything triggering on the first one?
16:34 Jounzan: i actually plan to rank it
16:35 Axarious: 00:11:123 -
16:35 Axarious: is there supposed to be a circle here?
16:35 Jounzan: the idea was mapping only most important bells
16:36 Jounzan: but well you are not the first calling for this
16:36 Jounzan: so idk
16:36 Jounzan: personally i like it how it is but since there is 4 people calling for circle alreaddy i probably have to add it lo
16:36 Axarious: lo
16:37 Axarious: also why tick rate 2 O:
16:37 Jounzan: because of hitsounding
16:37 Axarious: oic
16:37 Jounzan: i thought i'll add something
16:37 Jounzan: on tics
16:37 Jounzan: on the red ones
16:37 Jounzan: but in the end i just forgot to change it to 1
16:37 Jounzan: lol
16:38 Axarious: ohk
16:38 Axarious: since tick rate 2 is kinda hard to aim
16:38 Axarious: 01:20:310 (1,4) -
16:38 Axarious: i think this was weird to see
16:39 Jounzan: yeye i used 1
16:40 Axarious: 00:57:403 (1,2,3,4,5) -
16:40 Axarious: i guess this is a little unexpected since
16:40 Axarious: the previous 6 circles go 1-2-3
16:41 Axarious: and then this pattern goes back on itself
16:42 Jounzan: well it's like guitar goes different way here so i used it to emhasise it
16:42 Axarious: ic
16:42 Axarious: 04:27:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ee
16:43 Axarious: scary
16:44 Jounzan: what if i'll move it to make movement linear from 04:27:054 (2) - for example like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8944837
16:44 Axarious: i think it's just the speed
16:44 Axarious: 260 bpm stream is hard with that spacing
16:44 Axarious: + two slider jumps at the end
16:45 Jounzan: okay i'll try to think something about this one
16:45 Jounzan: don't really like these jumps tho
16:46 Axarious: hm
16:46 Axarious: i think that's all
16:46 Axarious: major thing is just tick rate i think
16:46 Jounzan: can you post something on the thread
16:47 Jounzan: so i can kd
16:47 Axarious: oo oki
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
i hope stream is easier now (at least now it mapped without these disgusting jumps)
Kobold84
Так!

00:21:007 (2,3,4,5) - подвинуть чуть левее? Морально тяжело смотреть на то, как тут несимметрично!
00:47:519 (4,5) - слабо чувствуется момент в музыке из-за стака, но тут явно сильнее музыка, чем в стакнутых двойках до этого. Можно тут запихать ноту-5 под слайдер или слайдер вообще сделать из двух нот, чтобы вот так было: http://i.imgur.com/9WyWtC0.jpg
00:57:751 (4,5) - играется странно немного из-за того, что до этого был вот такой паттерн 00:56:705 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - , поэтому, возможно, ctrl+g конкретно на нотах 4-5. Ну или просто их сделать не под 1-2.
01:14:728 (1,1,1) - http://i.imgur.com/4rgzPND.png — можно поровнее сделать этот момент!
02:07:635 (1,2,3,4) - тут мне просто интересно, а почему всё в одном месте?
02:25:077 (2,3) - я бы тут ctrl+G сделал, чтобы паттерн напоминал 02:24:496 (1,2,3,4) - вот этот.
Mirash
00:43:798 (4,5) - попробуй так http://i.imgur.com/DQdx9Z8.png
00:48:100 (2) - пробабли клап на жопе, там вроде звук такой же как и дальше
01:43:100 (3,4,5) - нк на них может или это только для ласт киаев
02:36:007 (3,4) - тут скорее так http://i.imgur.com/twoGqL3.png
05:23:100 (2) - идк дальше ты его задницей слайдера скипаешь, а тут такой прыжок, может хоть ближе к 1 ее поставишь, что-нибудь типо такого например http://i.imgur.com/mO9QigS.png
PandaHero
Пишу

Там аймод на киаи ругается, типа их слишком много

01:04:728 (2,3,4,5) - после этой штуки хочется вверх вести, а ты вниз уводишь, но наверное это не критично
01:07:984 (3) - как-то он слишком далеко от 1 стоит, по сравнению с 2 слайдером
01:14:147 (2) - не думала что это скажу, но у тебя вейв какой-то кривой
01:16:589 (1) - алсо то, что ты поставил клэп вместо обычного слайдертика, ломает мне мозг
01:17:635 (2) - а вот тут его кстати нет, хотя ты наверное предполагал что он будет
01:21:937 (6,7) - а может тут лучше 1/2 слайдер под гитару сделать?
02:39:961 (2) - мне кажется ты тут свисток забыл
02:44:379 (1,2,3) - А если вот так?
02:47:403 (2) - думаю эта нота должна быть чуть повыше, чтобы расстояние между 1 и 2 было таким же, как между 2 и 3, и совсем красота была
02:47:751 (1) - кажется у вас оффскрин
02:56:472 (2) - первый раз слышу, чтобы ты юзал драмовый вистл, там так надо? А то он как-то не к месту звучит
03:06:123 (8) - вот тут тоже, но тут не так заметно
02:49:612 (1) - сюда бы тоже свисток, хотя бы на тело поставить
04:02:868 (3,1) - а вот здесь свистки наоборот странно звучат без скрипки
04:59:030 (7) - а если тут ровный треугольник сделать, по-моему так круче http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8959099

Я всё
Topic Starter
Natteke desu

Kobold84 wrote:

Так!
1)да
2)а мне нравится, это компромисс между слайдером, который по идее подходит к паттерну и барабанами
3)так и задумано!
4)да
5)это чтобы момент лучше чувствовался, там еще такие штуки есть
6)тоже нравится как есть

PandaHero wrote:

Пишу
1)да, не критично
2)фича, а не баг
3)да, вроде поправил
4)ну, так нужно
5)мне просто пришлось менять слайдертик рейт, раньше он там был
6)не, не лучше
7)да, пожалуй
8)не
9)нуууууу двинул вроде
10)нет
11)убрал
12)и тут
13)добавил
14)а мне нравится
15)сделал


Mirash wrote:

мод
1)попробовал и не зашло, вернул как было
2)да
3)наоборот, везде нужно убрать нк
4)там теперь несколько иначе
5)а, я просто эмфазисы меняю, чтобы интересно было, НОУ К О Н С И С Т Е Н С И


Спасибо!
Lasse
00:24:147 (5,1) - can you tone this down a bit it seems way harder than similarly emphasized 1/4 gaps earlier? could probably just move 00:24:030 (4,5) - up a bit http://i.imgur.com/Fmt52AR.jpg
00:42:635 (3) - idk why you suddenly do 4 note nc when the guitar thing sounds quite repetitive
01:33:798 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - this actually feels a bit overdone, I think 01:48:682 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - made more sense difficulty wise with how the guitars stand out way less for these parts
02:47:751 (1) - offscreen in 4:3 http://i.imgur.com/XPNih6d.jpg
03:52:054 (3,4,5,6) - this pattern seemed a bit unfitting since 03:52:286 (5,6) - has guitar on both notes, but 03:52:054 (3,4) - only on 3, varying placment would make sense as it seems you want this part without sliders
03:53:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - similar here, you put so many different sounds into this one "stack" pattern
03:56:589 (1,2) -03:58:682 (1,1) - 04:00:310 (1,1) - looks so bad cause of autostack
also 03:56:589 (1,2,3,1) - 04:01:007 (1,2,3,4) - should probably use similar comboing?
04:01:937 (8,9,10) - this is 1/2 I think
04:09:961 (2) - string starts on on blue tick and since you follow them after this, how about http://i.imgur.com/gPGnAWs.jpg ? or change rhythm 04:09:612 (1,2) - in some other way
04:18:449 (1) - shouldn't this end one tick earlier

not really much to say
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
everything except very last point was fixed because i believe it is legit ends where i putted slider


UPD:
Lasse
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Topic Starter
Natteke desu
hand ok thank dad
Irreversible
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
бака
20:06 *Irreversible is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1279343 Daisuke Ishiwatari - Condemnation Wings [Requiem Aeternam]]
20:07 Jounzan: ye
20:07 Irreversible: 00:21:589 (1,2,3,4,5) - you used circles here as a contrast to the rest, right
20:07 Irreversible: ?
20:07 Jounzan: yup
20:08 Irreversible: I just feel like sliders would kind of fit the sound more
20:08 Irreversible: but if it's the case, iguess it will stay circles
20:08 Jounzan: yeah, also it is consistent for all the same places
20:08 Jounzan: i just want to have here
20:08 Jounzan: some kind
20:08 Jounzan: of stop momentum
20:08 Irreversible: yeah
20:08 Irreversible: also a good idea
20:08 Irreversible: 00:32:635 (1,1) - about this flow here, it somehow bothers me
20:09 Irreversible: maybe ctrl + g 00:32:635 (1) - this one?
20:09 Irreversible: idk something shouldb e changed so the spacing always increases
20:09 Irreversible: imo
20:10 Jounzan: uuuh idk i prefer to give them same type of movement, like i divide it by two sections
20:10 Jounzan: first have less spacing
20:10 Jounzan: second more
20:10 Irreversible: ohh i see
20:10 Irreversible: okk
20:10 Irreversible: 00:43:100 (3) - nc?
20:11 Jounzan: it feels for me more like increasing in that way
20:11 Jounzan: ye sure
20:12 Irreversible: 01:09:147 (3) - same here
20:12 Jounzan: 01:23:333 (5) - stacked this one with the slider tho
20:12 Jounzan: ye ye
20:12 Irreversible: 01:21:123 (4) - not sure if you want nc here?
20:12 Irreversible: 01:23:100 (4) - but here
20:13 Jounzan: actually i'd remove it 01:22:170 (1) - here because it's kinda all the one section
20:13 Jounzan: in the music
20:13 Jounzan: but that would be cancerous
20:14 Irreversible: mhm
20:14 Irreversible: 01:23:682 (7) - i was thinking of NC here too because of readability, but im not sure
20:14 Irreversible: because i mean, it can be unreadable in this point
20:14 Jounzan: what if
20:15 Jounzan: i make custom stack
20:15 Jounzan: with 6
20:15 Jounzan: instead
20:15 Jounzan: like
20:15 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8990770
20:15 Jounzan: this
20:15 Irreversible: i wouldn't change the pattern D:
20:15 Irreversible: nono
20:16 Jounzan: well actually i can add it, but it doesn't makes any difference to me personally
20:16 Jounzan: like i don't mind having it
20:17 Irreversible: idk tbh
20:17 Irreversible: don't add
20:18 Irreversible: 01:45:775 - swap nc with 01:46:356 (3) -
20:18 Jounzan: ye
20:19 Jounzan: applied same for 03:28:682 (1) -
20:19 Jounzan: 05:11:007 (1) - and this
20:20 Irreversible: 02:41:472 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - hm idk about you
20:20 Irreversible: but that seems like a really weird pattern in your setting
20:20 Irreversible: doens't play good at all imo, why the sudden stop is needed here?
20:20 Jounzan: i like the first part of it but can agree with 02:41:937 (1) - yeah
20:21 Irreversible: i mean decrease ok, but the stack after
20:21 Irreversible: yeah i actually only mean 12
20:21 Jounzan: huuum
20:21 Jounzan: should i go
20:21 Jounzan: with like
20:21 Jounzan: slider?
20:22 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8990811 or such
20:22 Irreversible: tbh i think circle will fit more
20:22 Irreversible: because at other instances you also use circle
20:22 Irreversible: but you're free how you wanna do it
20:22 Jounzan: so two circles but jump?
20:22 Irreversible: i don't like giving suggestion, because i feel like mappers like you know best what's good for the map
20:23 Irreversible: not necessarily jump, but definitely higher spacing
20:23 Jounzan: oookay
20:23 Jounzan: well i like
20:23 Jounzan: partly mapped
20:23 Jounzan: without understanding
20:23 Jounzan: what i do
20:23 Irreversible: XD
20:23 Jounzan: SO CAN'T AGREE WITH THIS SENTENCE
20:23 Irreversible: well i can gib sugestion
20:24 Jounzan: sure
20:24 Irreversible: but my map look like this
20:24 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/xp2tU/5c6232b457.jpg
20:24 Jounzan: still cool
20:24 Irreversible: and yours like this
20:24 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/xp2uo/59b9d59e67.jpg
20:24 Irreversible: xDDDD
20:24 Irreversible: wait, let's wait for this point
20:24 Irreversible: and fix it later
20:24 Irreversible: yeah i love your maps
20:24 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8990831 because yolo
20:25 Irreversible: yeah that's kinda cool
20:25 Jounzan: i mean yours while saying cool
20:26 Jounzan: i hope we continue our last IRAN collab
20:26 Jounzan: on that tv size
20:27 Irreversible: oh
20:27 Irreversible: yeah
20:27 Irreversible: idk life is a bit ?_? right now
20:27 Jounzan: yea understanable
20:28 Jounzan: i wish november comes faster
20:28 Jounzan: because i'll get break
20:28 Jounzan: from work
20:28 Irreversible: 04:51:937 (1,1,1,1,1) - i really love how you mapped all those parts
20:28 Jounzan: for two weeks
20:28 Irreversible: ohh nice
20:28 Irreversible: any plans for then?
20:28 Jounzan: SLEEP
20:31 Irreversible: update pls :D
20:31 Irreversible: i'll testplay now maybe i find some more shizzles
20:31 Irreversible: i can't play it but sometimes i have some feels
20:31 Jounzan: ooookie
20:32 Jounzan: o forgot to mention
20:33 Jounzan: i rearranged ncs around 05:11:007 (1) -
20:33 Jounzan: a bit
20:33 Jounzan: so now all these places
20:33 Jounzan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8990898
20:33 Irreversible: that's okay
20:33 Jounzan: are straight this
20:33 Jounzan: in terms of ncs
20:34 Jounzan: and upated ye
20:34 Irreversible: how about spec kri
20:34 Jounzan: i do
20:34 Jounzan: like
20:34 Jounzan: HIDDEN
20:34 Jounzan: ARE U TRYING TO FARM PEPE
20:34 Irreversible: ok this
20:34 Irreversible: part is unplayable for me
20:35 Irreversible: so
20:35 Irreversible: don't mind me when i stp playing
20:35 Irreversible: HAHA
20:35 Jounzan: i'm a bit salty about this part tho
20:35 Jounzan: i find it to be the best part of this map
20:35 Jounzan: but people just can't play it properly
20:40 Irreversible: it's really fun to play
20:40 Jounzan: i really hope so
20:40 Jounzan: people like hating it or loving
20:40 Jounzan: there is no opinions in between
20:40 Jounzan: so far
20:40 Jounzan: lmao
20:41 Irreversible: 04:44:961 (4) - nc
20:41 Jounzan: ye
20:41 Jounzan: anything else?
20:41 Irreversible: yes
20:41 Irreversible: 04:54:728 (3,4) -
20:41 Irreversible: 04:55:658 (3,4) -
20:41 Irreversible: can you buff these?
20:41 Irreversible: they felt really underwhelming in compare to the rest
20:41 Irreversible: (other 2 kiai)
20:41 Jounzan: yeah
20:42 Irreversible: 03:34:728 (1,2,3) - this is inconsistent to 01:52:403 (1,2,3) -
20:42 Irreversible: i like the idea of having two different kind of patterns here
20:42 Irreversible: first one is with stack
20:42 Irreversible: second one without
20:42 Jounzan: i left 04:54:728 (3,4) - it as it was but buffed the second two
20:43 Jounzan: so what if i'll
20:44 Jounzan: 05:17:054 (1,2,3) - make this
20:44 Jounzan: like
20:44 Jounzan: 01:52:403 (1,2,3) -
20:44 Jounzan: this
20:44 Jounzan: and left one on 3:34 as is
20:44 Irreversible: yeah sure
20:46 Jounzan: 05:17:403 (1,2) - also probably i should use red to red tick slider
20:46 Jounzan: instead
20:46 Jounzan: what do you think?
20:47 Jounzan: 03:35:077 (1) - same
20:47 Irreversible: i saw this atually more times
20:47 Irreversible: i thought it was intended
20:47 Jounzan: well it is
20:47 Jounzan: i just not quite sure it fits this moment
20:47 Jounzan: now
20:47 Irreversible: ahh
20:47 Irreversible: okay
20:47 Irreversible: yeah then change
20:47 Irreversible: and then rank tbh
20:47 Irreversible: i think we improved some things :D
20:48 Jounzan: we really did
20:48 Jounzan: <3 irre best modder
20:48 Irreversible: <3
20:51 Irreversible: tell me when updated
20:51 Jounzan: yeah i'll change one more thing
20:51 Jounzan: 01:53:100 (2,3,4,5) - make all the same spots
20:51 Jounzan: like this
20:51 Jounzan: in terms of rhythm
Delis
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
Yeeeeee
Mirash
condom nation vinx
Monstrata
Very confused map xP. It's not meant for alternator with all those sharp angled jumps, large spacings and 258 bpm 1/4's, but you use so many alternator-style patterns with low spacing and wide angles.
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
well it's like how i map in general rather than just a case of this beatmap i suppose lo
Asaiga
bol' v zhope
Topic Starter
Natteke desu
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Kyouren
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