02:31 *Kodora is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/110857 FictionJunction KEIKO - Houseki [Dancing]]
02:31 Kodora: would be nice to go with AR8
02:31 Kodora: some parts feels hard to read
02:31 Lizbeth: song is too slow for that AR tho
02:32 Lizbeth: looks weird
02:32 Lizbeth: already tried
02:32 Lizbeth: Garven told me to put it like this
02:32 Kodora: please don't adjust AR to BPM
02:32 Kodora: ...oh Garven
02:32 Kodora: okay
02:32 Lizbeth: hehe
02:33 Kodora: thought i really feel like it would be better with AR8 but anyway
02:34 Lizbeth: hmmm i ll try it
02:35 Kodora: 00:16:347 (3,4) -
02:35 Kodora: feels kinda clamped and imo isn't flows good
02:36 Kodora: try this
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/118043102:36 Kodora: (i stacked next note and slider with head of (4), i can give code if you want)
02:36 Lizbeth: this map is meant to have those small jumps here and there, is kinda chaos style from 2 years ago
02:37 Kodora: you can improve and fix it now anyway
02:37 Kodora: overrla pretty nice thought
02:38 Kodora: 00:18:925 (2,3) - this ones is really breaks your flow :s
02:39 Lizbeth: hmm this is matter of style I think, cuz is meant to be jumpy like this
02:39 Lizbeth: anyway, i tried AR8, and damn you re right
02:39 Lizbeth: plays a lot more better
02:39 Lizbeth: no wonder i had it like this before
02:39 Kodora: 00:34:862 (2,3) - can be better blanket
02:39 Lizbeth: btw, those streams you missed, can you check them out ?
02:39 *Kodora runs
02:40 Lizbeth: they are supposed be 1/6 but play terrible at 1/6
02:40 Lizbeth: 02:40:253 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
02:40 Kodora: oh they are 1/6
02:40 Kodora: first time i was thought they are 1/8 lol
02:40 Lizbeth: yes, but so hard to catch
02:40 Kodora: yea
02:41 Lizbeth: I had it on 1/4 and they play nice, cuz the sound is so low people dont notice is 1/6
02:41 Lizbeth: but Irreversible told me to put it 1/6 and now i cant even follow it xD
02:41 Kodora: this diff supposed to he Hard, yes?
02:41 Kodora: *be
02:42 Kodora: or insane?
02:42 Lizbeth: when i first mapped it, was 1 years ago, was meant to be insane
02:42 Lizbeth: but now i d consider it Hard
02:42 Kodora: technically looks like hard for me
02:42 Kodora: well
02:42 Kodora: i have 2 solutions
02:42 Kodora: 1)
02:43 Kodora: can be replaced with 2 1/6 sliders
02:43 Kodora: 02:40:253 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
02:43 Lizbeth: yea i though of it, but dont really wanna do it
02:43 Kodora: it will helps a lot in playability meaning and will save your rhythm as it now
02:44 Lizbeth: what other solution you propose?
02:44 Kodora: second - reduse OD by 1 tick if you really want to keep it. Main reason is it extremely hard to get that they are 1/6 and not 1/8
02:45 Lizbeth: I dont think that will help too much either, maybe a bit
02:45 Kodora: i strongly suggest you replace at least every second 1/6 stream with sliders
02:46 Kodora: trust me it will
02:46 Kodora: OD6 allows much higher hit error to play
02:46 Kodora: also
02:46 Kodora: 02:45:409 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - imo too trollish
02:46 Lizbeth: what do you mean?
02:46 Kodora: it basically looks like other 1/6 stream while it 1/4
02:47 Kodora: same DS, almost same pattern
02:47 Lizbeth: ohhhh
02:47 Lizbeth: X)
02:47 Lizbeth: i leave it like that to test
02:47 Lizbeth: see which the player did better
02:47 Lizbeth: 1/6 or 1/4
02:47 Kodora: 1/4 is much, much easier to catch
02:47 Lizbeth: those diabolic streams is the reason im making people testplay
02:48 Kodora: also dt players hate 1/6
02:48 Lizbeth: ofc
02:48 Lizbeth: is the way i had it at first, and there wasnt one single person that missed them
02:48 Kodora: i'd fc it too, just too sleepy right now
02:48 Kodora: 01:48 for me lol
02:48 Lizbeth: but Irreversible told me to change them to 1/6, which plays terrible but are "correct"
02:49 Lizbeth: hehe
02:49 Lizbeth: GOW TO SLEEEEP
02:49 Lizbeth: >_>
02:49 Lizbeth: joking stay ;^:
02:49 Kodora: <_< there are still some stuff to do and i also have insomina
02:49 Kodora: 1/6 is correct only musically
02:49 Kodora: sometimes better to skip some beats for better playability
02:50 Kodora: or find other arragement
02:50 Lizbeth: <: i like you
02:50 Kodora: OAO
02:50 Lizbeth: I ll do that
02:50 Kodora: 1/6 sliders as potential solution, 1/4 streams will plays better
02:50 Lizbeth: i ll put it all on 1/4, how i had it before, actually i have a back up of it, would you play it again for me?
02:50 Kodora: yes sure
02:50 Lizbeth: ok hold on
02:51 Kodora: also other thing why i'm against keeping all streams 1/6 is
02:51 Kodora: map is very easy to dt
02:51 Kodora: but 1/6 part are something what will made everyone miss or will be acc killer
02:51 Kodora: it's very bad if all map feels easy but have one or two short "weird" parts
02:52 Lizbeth: you re right
02:54 Lizbeth: done, is updated, feel free to try it
02:55 Kodora: mind if i'll try with dt?
02:55 Lizbeth: go ahead
02:56 Lizbeth: forgot to put it ar8 to this version
02:57 Kodora: a lot better
02:59 Lizbeth: yeap
02:59 Kodora: oh btw
02:59 Kodora: 03:00:409 (1,2,3,4,5) - is spacing here suppoed to be like this?
03:00 Lizbeth: yes, gradually decreasing
03:01 Lizbeth: the previous combos are also like this one
03:01 Kodora: well, makes sense with music anyway so nice
03:02 Kodora: 03:01:347 (5) -
03:02 Kodora: you might try as well use slow slider here
03:02 Kodora: violin is strong, so single note just feels too empty
03:03 Kodora: something like x0.25 slider would be perfect here
03:03 Lizbeth: hmm is a good idea
03:05 Kodora: 03:48:222 (1,2) - blanket :s
03:05 *Kodora runs
03:05 Lizbeth: xD
03:05 Kodora: 03:59:472 (2,3) -
03:05 Lizbeth: just think: is not meant to be a perfect blanket <:
03:05 Kodora: flow is nice overral but there are a lot of tiny issues like this
03:06 Lizbeth: i knew i had a lot of complaints like this when i decided to resurrect this hehe
03:07 Kodora: 01:17:284 (5) - might as well be replaced with spinner
03:07 Kodora: also it will made break shorten
03:20 Kodora: btw
03:20 *Kodora is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/110857 FictionJunction KEIKO - Houseki [Dancing]]
03:20 Kodora: are you sure about offset
03:21 Kodora: feels kinda late but no headphones to check for sure :c
03:22 Lizbeth: well, no one has complaint, but offset is being like this for years
03:25 Kodora: just ask someone to check out :c
03:28 Lizbeth: I will >~<
03:30 Kodora: well, need back to own maps, good luck o.o/
03:30 Lizbeth: thanks for the mod