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The tragedy in Norway

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Danzai_old
I think it's time to make a thread like this.
Since friday, I have heard countless speculations about what actually has happpend in norway.

It's... Hard for me to write this, however, this is the right time.

So, what happend?

Around 3pm Friday 22th, a bomb exploded in the goverment office building.
People did not have any clue on what was going on, police officers where yelling "RUN TO SAFETY WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON!", people where in panic. Dead bodies, bloody people, hurt people, screams..

After a while they finnaly found out it was a bomb explosion, this part of Oslo looked like a war zone.


Around 5pm same day, he went loose on the summercamp for AØF members (Norwegian labour party), they had their yearly summercamp.
He took the ferrie over with some new camp attendants and the main leader for the camp, vitnesses says she became suspicious.
He then walked up the main building, when there he said "Come to me, I need to tell you something" to the camp leader. Then he pulled out a gun and shot down the leader and a male camp guard.

He then started shooting all the people around. People where panicing, as more and more understood what was going on, they started to flee.
A lot of the people was fleeing to the tent camp, and hiding in their tents. He followed them there, where he killed them in their tents in cold blood.
He continiue the killing, while people fled for their lives. A lot of people stormed down to the islends edges and started swimming. He shoot a lot of the people that was trying to flee.

After a while, the people on the camping place on the mainland understood the situations and rushed out in boats to save those they could. Police and ambulances was yet not at the place.

Around 1 hour and 30 minutes after the shooting had started, the norwegian special police team "Delta" had captured the man.

Death toll:
The bombing in Oslo: 10 lives
The shooting on Utøya: 83 lifes.

Keep in mind that some lifes was lost by drowing. People where jumping in the water with full clothing which makes it hard to swim, and drowned.
1 boy died today at the hospital.

I'm a norwegian, I'm a proud norwegian. I won't let this break me down, I will still fight for what we stand for.

There have been countless of memorials all over the country, in respect for those we lost in this unbelivable tragic event.
This is a day we will remember for the rest of our lifes, and will think back on with grief.
However, we now see how close norwegians are. People in the streets where hugging eachother, they where crying, keeping each other safe.
Sweeden, Denmark and Finland are all gonna have a 1 minute silence tomorow at 12pm GMT+1
I think most of the finnish people know what we norwegians are going trought right now. They had their school masacers.

I don't know what more to write... Sorry but this turned more out as a rant topic than a informative topic, however you will get some facts out of this.

For those who wounder, my personal loss this day was: 4 friends and one cusin.



~Danzai
dkun
I still pray for Norway.

It's glad to know that the Scandinavian countries are taking that minute of silence. Shows how close countries can really be.
Xgor

Danzai wrote:

Sweeden, Denmark and Finland are all gonna have a 1 minute silence tomorow at 12pm GMT+1i
:o Didn't know this, good to know....

Well this is really tragic, I have to say both the bombing and summercamp massacre is absolutely terrifying.

I must say I'm glad that we haven't got any successful terrorist attack like that in Sweden, but I have to say I feel sad for Norway and hope they recover from this tragic event.
Fumi-chan
All my best wishes to you guys up there. Fighting.
Mara
Of course finnish media took a look at his hobbies and now there is shitstorm about violent videogames are bad for your brains etc etc.

And of course they compare it to our two finnishers who both played Battlefield. According to media, Battlefield is "a game where you have to kill as many enemies as fast as you can". What?

Little off-topic, but little on-topic.

Also, sorry for your friends.
Shael_old
Do you know the reason for this? Why did he do it?
Topic Starter
Danzai_old
Why:
He was planning to do this attack on the norwegian Labour Party for 9 years.
He even bought a farm, a bit far away to make the bomb in peace.

He claims, in his 1500 pages memeto that he is member of a large worldwide christian orginiaction against muslim world dominance or some shit like that.

The reason he attacked the youthcamp was to stop the "soon to be" politicans to... live.
Shael_old
does the guy live still?
OzzyOzrock
My God this is terrible ;_;
Weez
Saw a pic of the shooter walking along a river with like 5 dead bodies lying around in the newspaper this morning.

There are some pretty fucked up people in this world and shouldn't even be around.
Cyclohexane
I hope that "christian organisation" gets dismantled as fast as possible.
They've talked about it over here in France too, but too enough IMO.
Xgor

Shael wrote:

does the guy live still?
Yes, It was not a suicide bomb and they caught him.
Ekaru

Xgor wrote:

Shael wrote:

does the guy live still?
Yes, It was not a suicide bomb and they caught him.
Well, I supposed they can't kill him - he's a lot more useful alive than dead.

Anyways this is pretty terrible. ><; My heart goes out to those affected by this, because this is pretty bad.

P.S. This isn't how Christianity is supposed to work. I swear that we should just rename each sect as their own religion, because this is ridiculous.
Vext_old
Always a tragedy going on somewhere and we are so quick we are to forget them after they happen, what a world we live in.
Cuddlebun
I will never understand why people do shit like that, it accomplishes nothing.
Loginer

Cuddlebun wrote:

I will never understand why people do shit like that, it accomplishes nothing.
Terrorists operate under the philosophy "No press is bad press". Killing people and blowing things up gets them tons of press coverage.
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damn...heard the news 2 days ago, thought it was another random terrorist attack and never acturally pay attention after that until I found this post just now...
Dunno how to comment on this other than feeling awful...you were pretty brave with your confess thread earlier Danzai, I'm sure you have enough courage to get through this just fine...
CXu
mmyeah, what to say ._.
whymeman
If they really think killing people based on personal beliefs is a "good deed" to make a point, then something is really wrong with them...

I just saw it on the news a few days ago as well. Not something I wanted to hear, but sorry about your loss man... :|
maal
We Danes, condole for all your loss.

I alone, condole for your losses Danzai.

I am glad, that Scandinavia stands together, and actually shows respect.
Sander-Don
Tragedy :o Norway will be in my prayers.
Mianki
I can't imagine what you're going through and I just can't comprehend why stuff like this happens.
My deepest thoughts to you and to all norwegians.
f e a r
:( I would have been in the bombing if I hadnt decided to be lazy <.< durrr....
Nonetheless, what really bothers me, is that I heard the major of people rather cared more about Amy Winehouse.. Iunno why..

I'm not really sure what to say about this tragedy, I mean, What's Norway ever done to harm? I'm not old or anything but in my years I don't know of much it, and that this person even did this with cold blood, makes it even worse, to me.

Also, Danzai, I'm sorry for your loss. :( R.I.P to the people who died in Norway 22.07.2011.
Sallad4ever
I offer my condolences to the victim's family, there's really nothing much I can do except this.

Nothing can justifies a terrorism attack. NOTHING
If that shit use any excuse to cover his act, that's a total bs. Death penalty is way to light punishment for him.
D33d
It's ridiculous that somebody would have the cold-faced gall to carry out such an attack. It's absolutely despicable. This fundie cunt deserves to be humiliated and tortured in every way possible. I'm sure that nobody in their right mind would object to that.

Danzai, I'm shocked that you've lost some people who are close to you. My deepest condolences. If you want to talk, then I'm always kicking about.
Firo Prochainezo
My deepest condolences for Norway.
Fight69
God, this is just awful, I don't even know what to say...

My deepest condolences.
Backstabber
The tragedy is such a horrifying act of evil that I have no words to describe it. No man can really comprehend what an enormous tragedy the manslaughter of some of the finest youth Norway has to offer really is. But I believe I speak for all Norwegians when I say that the love and support from the entire world community really has meant a lot.
Vext_old

Backstabber wrote:

The tragedy is such a horrifying act of evil that I have no words to describe it. No man can really comprehend what an enormous tragedy the manslaughter of some of the finest youth Norway has to offer really is. But I believe I speak for all Norwegians when I say that the love and support from the entire world community really has meant a lot.
Am I the only one that sees the irony in this coming from someone named Backstabber?

BTW I want your babies.
awp

D33d wrote:

This fundie cunt deserves to be humiliated and tortured in every way possible. I'm sure that nobody in their right mind would object to that.
I would. Responding to inhumane depravity with inhumane depravity doesn't make you any better just because your kill count is lower.
Lilac
Regardless, in Australia, I believe it's been a full week where this was featured on the front page of our newspaper (At least Herald Sun and The Age) and it's real shocking to hear about it. I'm sorry to hear about it, Danzai.
lepidopodus
Tragic incident, I felt really sad when I heard the news.
Let us pray for the souls.

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Criminal was extreme christian fundamentalist, far-far-rightist, as I heard.
Jesus said "Love Your Enemies"(Luke 6:27), but seems all he had was just hatred toward the people who have different thoughts, unfortunatly...
Ikillforpies
i was really sad when i heard this news.
Let us pray for the family who lost there love one and pray for the country and also pray for the souls that have been lost
A8mew
My condolences for your loss.

The news coverage I've seen has been... less than enlightening. Mostly news over here was claiming it was Al Qaeda or other muslim extremists, or issuing retractions for incorrectly reporting it as Al Qaeda or other muslim extremists. Not a whole lot of focus on the actual loss people experienced.
Mystgun
This is devastating, I will include this in my prayers. My condolences.
awp

A8mew wrote:

Mostly news over here was claiming it was Al Qaeda or other muslim extremists,
Are you serious? Wasn't this guy killing Muslims and such because he didn't like Europe being so multi-cultural?

I think the worst part of this is, we're pretty much going through the motions at this point. Moving from one tragedy to the next, with the same responses around the board.
ekopret8ks
Too bad the shooter will spend his jail time in luxury, http://news.yahoo.com/photos/inside-the ... how/#crsl=
Topic Starter
Danzai_old
Some more info:
As most know, the longest jail time in norway is 21 years.
However, this guy might be prosecuted with "Crimes against humanity" and can look on a 30 year long jail time.
If this happens, it will be the strongest jail punishment in norwegians new time history.
Haseo_old

dkun wrote:

I still pray for Norway.
thelewa
I am a horrible person and I apologize for being alive
Backstabber

Danzai wrote:

Some more info:
As most know, the longest jail time in norway is 21 years.
However, this guy might be prosecuted with "Crimes against humanity" and can look on a 30 year long jail time.
If this happens, it will be the strongest jail punishment in norwegians new time history.
After 21 years a council will evaluate if he is still a danger to society. If they come to that conclusion he will have another 5 years. After that they will have another evaluation etc. etc.
Yuzeyun
Many condoleances to you and Norwegians who lost a relative...

I heard on the news some things like :
His father lives in France, especially in Aude (I think) and the Norwegian TV had an interview from him... He has never seen his child for 17 years (I thought I heard 17 but if I am wrong, correct me.) He said that he was a normal adolescent. (Well it was the last words I heard on the report.)
A girl and her mother exchanging SMS when this was happening..
Again, my deepest condolences for those who lost a relative.. How many families are destroyed now ? >.<

(Really, before this I started to think it was a very bad year. This confirmed my thoughts.)
Lizzehb
People need to just stop killing people. As someone who dealt with death/suicide stuff in the past, killing the innocent is just stupid. Those innocent people were just going about their lives. Killing is dumb 99.9% of the time. There are so many other things that can attract attention. Stupid people....

Also my condolences to not just Norway, but EVERYONE on the planet who has suffered an innocent love one's death.
Topic Starter
Danzai_old
He came with some ridicilus offers today...

"I wont say anything more until the goverment resign and I get control over the goverment, and the army."

Which won't happen, thats for sure.
kriers
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Yuzeyun

kriers wrote:



minner meg om deg, Danzai.

Kilde: http://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/--Breiv ... 47421.html
Is there any English equivalent for it ?
Topic Starter
Danzai_old
This isn't the place for you to bring up your personal vendettas against me, kriers.

Also, I think you missed this. You're a bit late, mr. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=57302
kriers
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Topic Starter
Danzai_old
Oh, so that's what you think?
jericho2442
lets stop this flame before it gets out of hand, this is a very serious topic and i dont want it going this way, a lot of people are hurt i know, people may have different views and hate others for there views, and also have different personal opinions, but please do not continue this and attack within this topic.

i hope you listen and thanks

EDIT: i will be deleting any more posts what are in this manner, its for your own goods :<
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