kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e Youkoso~ · forum

Halogen

Joined December 2016

Halogen 2017-04-30T02:55:45+00:00

For advanced, the objects are appearing way too fast to be a 3* imo, it's like it gets its rating just from how fast the objects appear rather than how spaced they are, which probably feels awful playing to a noob.

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-04-30T05:41:44+00:00

Karen waifu wrote:
For advanced, the objects are appearing way too fast to be a 3* imo, it's like it gets its rating just from how fast the objects appear rather than how spaced they are, which probably feels awful playing to a noob.

OK, I'll consider to decrease AR. Thanks.

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-05-01T08:46:14+00:00

WOW~~~ Thanks for your favorite. I love you <3

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-05-01T08:49:34+00:00

Luel Roseline wrote:
언락찡 약속한 대로...

나 몸살나려 한다 젠장
그리고 요즘 대학생활 땜시 모딩이든 매핑이든 다 장기간보류하려다가 가끔씩 하는게 낫다 생각해가지고 한 건데

지금 쿠도스 붙여주지 말고요

머학생활 열심히 하고... 몸조심하고...ㅠㅠ

하도 안오길래 그냥 쿠도스 줫음 ㅇㅇ

milr_

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milr_ 2017-05-02T13:57:23+00:00

Luel Roseline

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Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-05-04T01:38:24+00:00

재검토 완료.

00:39:760 (1,3,1,3) - 슬라이더 보더부분에 휘슬소리가 나면 뭔가 더 색채가 더 있을가 합니다.
01:31:321 (1,2) - 슬라이더를 그냥 이렇게 해보는게...
01:39:289 (1,2) - 리서브슬라이더보다는 슬라이더-서클-슬라이더-서클로 하는게 더 리듬감 있다 생각해요.

01:59:971 - 녹색 타이밍포인트가 스냅되지 않았습니다.

그래..다했엉...

Electoz

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Electoz 2017-05-04T13:05:25+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue~

[BASIC]

00:04:371 (1,2,3,4) - The shapes are visually random. In NOVICE you copy-pasted 00:04:371 (1,2,3) twice, you could just apply the same copy-paste thing in this diff too.
00:34:838 (2) - Using a long slider like 00:38:119 (2) would be better because the song's rhythm is repetitive and you can reflect it this way with my suggestion.
01:13:274 (3,4,5) - The rhythm is too inconsistent with things in other measures like 01:06:009 (3) - 01:09:759 (3) - 01:16:321 (2) so would be better if you're using a less dense rhythm instead of 01:13:274 (3,4,5) .
Aesthetics would look a lot cleaner if you can be more consistent with your curve sliders like 01:14:446 (5,1) - etc. You could just copy-paste these curve sliders which you did in other diffs but not this one so I'm not sure what's going on here.

[NOVICE]

01:22:884 (5,6) - 01:21:009 (1,2) - Are they supposed to by symmetrical? Since you placed 01:21:009 (1,2,3,4) in a symmetrical way then might as well do it to the entire pattern.

[ADVANCED]

00:04:956 (3,4,5,6,7) - This is clearly focusing on piano but idk why you decided to skip the same piano sound on 00:06:597 (3,4,5,6) which is inconsistent.
00:30:151 (5) - NC?

[Yuria's EXHAUST]

OK.

[MAXIMUM]

00:04:605 (3,4,5) - Better use 1.2 DS here to make the spacing on 00:05:074 (5,6) more stand out.
00:05:542 (8,11) - Overlap could be polished, something like this would look better I guess.
00:06:128 - 00:06:246 - Missing whistle.
00:15:269 (2) - Make this slider curved like 00:15:620 (4,6,8,10) ? Since you used the same slider shape on 00:11:988 (2,4,6,8) - 00:13:628 (2,4,6,8) anyways.
00:56:009 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is more intuitive to play since you get to click on the white tick which is also more prominent than other 1/3 ticks.
01:09:055 (7,8) - Should be spaced more, also would be cool if you can make 01:09:055 (7,8,9) a pattern or have some sort of flow rotation like what you did with 01:05:305 (7,8,9) - 01:12:805 (6,7,8) .
01:22:415 (1,2,3,4) - 01:22:884 (1,2,3,4) - Could be more consistent with curviness of the stream. Copy-pasting would work and you already did that with 01:21:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) so idk why you didn't do it here.
01:36:359 (5,7) - Could space them a bit more for the sake of visual and tidiness.
01:46:789 (1,2,3,4) - Would be cool if you can use a complete linear flow like 01:44:914 (1,2,3,4) since they're pretty much on the same rhythm.

[HEAVENLY]

00:04:371 (1,2) - Same thing as mentioned before about using a smaller spacing to make 00:05:074 (4,5) more stand out.
00:10:855 (3,1,2) - If you want to do a sharp direction change with the stream then you should do it consistently on other places with the same rhythm like 00:09:058 - 00:09:996 or don't do it at all lol
00:37:182 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Not a good overmap because there's no sound worth emphasizing with a stream + the stream makes the rhythm more dense than everything else in this section despite nothing from the song is happening. Actually why don't you just use the same rhythm as 00:36:478 (1,2,3,4) lol since you already did this on 00:33:900 (5,6,7,8) anyways.
00:56:634 (3,1) - Inconsistent NCs.
01:13:743 (2) - Should be a different flow from 01:13:040 (7,8,1) because they're not in the same part of rhythm anymore. You also gave 01:05:305 (7,8,9,1) - 01:06:009 (1,2) different kinds of flows, so might as well do it here too.

The difficulty spread between BASIC and NOVICE could be a problem:

BASIC: Barely has any 2/1 rhythms even in the most intense sections, could use a denser rhythm on some places where you placed long sliders. For instance, you could do something like this or this instead of 01:24:759 (1) . There are more places where you can use denser rhythms to decrease the spread difference, so I recommend you going through the difficulty again.
NOVICE: Has constant 1/1 rhythms without any break whatsoever, you have like really long rhythm chains so try to put more 2/1 rhythm gaps occasionally throughout the difficulty.

Good luck~

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-05-04T16:46:51+00:00

Check it asap

sor im busy XD

Elasia

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Elasia 2017-05-06T12:29:40+00:00

Luel Roseline wrote:
재검토 완료.

00:39:760 (1,3,1,3) - 슬라이더 보더부분에 휘슬소리가 나면 뭔가 더 색채가 더 있을가 합니다. 휘슬소리가 다소 시끄러운것 같이 느껴져서 그대로 두도록 하겠습니다.
01:31:321 (1,2) - 슬라이더를 그냥 이렇게 해보는게... 계속 같은 박자로 가는것도 괜찮지만 마지막 박자정도는 길게 끌어주는것도 괜찮다고 생각됩니다.
01:39:289 (1,2) - 리서브슬라이더보다는 슬라이더-서클-슬라이더-서클로 하는게 더 리듬감 있다 생각해요. 드럼음도 살리면서 길게 끌어주는듯한 음도 같이 살리기 위하여 이렇게 하였습니다.
01:59:971 - 녹색 타이밍포인트가 스냅되지 않았습니다. 1/3박자에 노트와 같이 스냅 되어있습니다.

그래..다했엉...

모딩 감사합니다. 맵 한번 다시 돌아보면서 고쳐야될것들이 몇개 보이길래 수정했습니다.

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281,295,105382,2,0,P|313:291|346:286,1,66.0000023419855,10|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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372,348,108664,6,0,L|440:344,2,66.0000023419855,14|0|10,0:1|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Kawashiro

1,522 posts

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-05-07T17:33:06+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Hi, from my modding queue~

[BASIC]

00:04:371 (1,2,3,4) - The shapes are visually random. In NOVICE you copy-pasted 00:04:371 (1,2,3) twice, you could just apply the same copy-paste thing in this diff too.
00:34:838 (2) - Using a long slider like 00:38:119 (2) would be better because the song's rhythm is repetitive and you can reflect it this way with my suggestion. - Hmm, I know why you suggested it but I think the sounds in 00:33:197 (1) - here and 00:34:838 (2) - here are very resemble.
Of course 00:36:478 (1) - this sounds too.
01:13:274 (3,4,5) - The rhythm is too inconsistent with things in other measures like 01:06:009 (3) - 01:09:759 (3) - 01:16:321 (2) so would be better if you're using a less dense rhythm instead of 01:13:274 (3,4,5) .
Aesthetics would look a lot cleaner if you can be more consistent with your curve sliders like 01:14:446 (5,1) - etc. You could just copy-paste these curve sliders which you did in other diffs but not this one so I'm not sure what's going on here. - OK, I'll fix some strange sliders
[NOVICE]

01:22:884 (5,6) - 01:21:009 (1,2) - Are they supposed to by symmetrical? Since you placed 01:21:009 (1,2,3,4) in a symmetrical way then might as well do it to the entire pattern.
[ADVANCED]

00:04:956 (3,4,5,6,7) - This is clearly focusing on piano but idk why you decided to skip the same piano sound on 00:06:597 (3,4,5,6) which is inconsistent. - Because The bell sounds are in 00:06:128 (1,2) - here, 00:07:066 (4,5) - here and 00:08:121 (1) - here. So I decide to follow almost full piano sound in 00:04:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part and skip whole piano sounds in 00:06:128 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - here to emphasize bell sounds.
00:30:151 (5) - NC?
[Yuria's EXHAUST]

OK.
[MAXIMUM]

00:04:605 (3,4,5) - Better use 1.2 DS here to make the spacing on 00:05:074 (5,6) more stand out.
00:05:542 (8,11) - Overlap could be polished, something like this would look better I guess.
00:06:128 - 00:06:246 - Missing whistle.
00:15:269 (2) - Make this slider curved like 00:15:620 (4,6,8,10) ? Since you used the same slider shape on 00:11:988 (2,4,6,8) - 00:13:628 (2,4,6,8) anyways.
00:56:009 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is more intuitive to play since you get to click on the white tick which is also more prominent than other 1/3 ticks. - Hmm? I never think only putting cilck object into white tick is intuitive. I just think the tone of 00:56:009 (1,2,3) - this part is going high in 00:56:243 - here and 00:56:478 - here. Also I want to emphasize 00:56:634 (1) - this sound.
01:09:055 (7,8) - Should be spaced more, also would be cool if you can make 01:09:055 (7,8,9) a pattern or have some sort of flow rotation like what you did with 01:05:305 (7,8,9) - 01:12:805 (6,7,8) .
01:22:415 (1,2,3,4) - 01:22:884 (1,2,3,4) - Could be more consistent with curviness of the stream. Copy-pasting would work and you already did that with 01:21:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) so idk why you didn't do it here. - This cannot be reason to keep consistency but I agree this unspectacular shape looks bad. fix myself
01:36:359 (5,7) - Could space them a bit more for the sake of visual and tidiness.
01:46:789 (1,2,3,4) - Would be cool if you can use a complete linear flow like 01:44:914 (1,2,3,4) since they're pretty much on the same rhythm. - Hey, wat r u saying? Linear is 01:47:023 (2,3,4) - here! of course, fix 01:48:898 (2,3,4) - here to linear
[HEAVENLY]

00:04:371 (1,2) - Same thing as mentioned before about using a smaller spacing to make 00:05:074 (4,5) more stand out.
00:10:855 (3,1,2) - If you want to do a sharp direction change with the stream then you should do it consistently on other places with the same rhythm like 00:09:058 - 00:09:996 or don't do it at all lol
00:37:182 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Not a good overmap because there's no sound worth emphasizing with a stream + the stream makes the rhythm more dense than everything else in this section despite nothing from the song is happening. Actually why don't you just use the same rhythm as 00:36:478 (1,2,3,4) lol since you already did this on 00:33:900 (5,6,7,8) anyways. - You're right. but I don't want to skip this sounds so I changed it to 1/4 reverse slider[/colors]
00:56:634 (3,1) - Inconsistent NCs.
01:13:743 (2) - Should be a different flow from 01:13:040 (7,8,1) because they're not in the same part of rhythm anymore. You also gave 01:05:305 (7,8,9,1) - 01:06:009 (1,2) different kinds of flows, so might as well do it here too.
The difficulty spread between BASIC and NOVICE could be a problem:

BASIC: Barely has any 2/1 rhythms even in the most intense sections, could use a denser rhythm on some places where you placed long sliders. For instance, you could do something like this or this instead of 01:24:759 (1) . There are more places where you can use denser rhythms to decrease the spread difference, so I recommend you going through the difficulty again.
NOVICE: Has constant 1/1 rhythms without any break whatsoever, you have like really long rhythm chains so try to put more 2/1 rhythm gaps occasionally throughout the difficulty. -
Good luck~

Thanks!

Pennek

493 posts

Joined December 2013

Pennek 2017-05-16T16:18:44+00:00

hi from modqueue o/

[General]
fine

[BASIC]
fine

[NOVICE]
fine

[ADVANCED]
00:53:118 (1,2,3,4) - I like the progression from the previous part to this a lot. damn good job of expressing this song in so many different exciting ways.
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feel this could be slowed down even more to emphasise the next part even better. it's fine as it is now though as well.

[Yuria's EXHAUST]
00:09:761 (4,1) - damn nice buildup! I'll use that in my own maps sometime. note: wow other buildups :O
- nope nothing.

[MAXIMUM]
wew, ez mod!

[HEAVENLY]
00:31:674 (2,3,4,5,6) - I see what you're getting at but the white ticks far overpower the wub sound in the background. You have strong sounds on the sliderends. If you do this anyway please explain your reasoning.

pls rank! <3

Luel Roseline

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Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-05-16T23:16:14+00:00

그냥 난이도 전체에 A를 4로 바꿔보면 어떨까 싶은데

Beomsan

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-05-17T06:29:15+00:00

HEAVENLY

강조를 해서 난이도가 급격적으로 높아지는 구간이 공감되지 않음.

01:09:759 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:39:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:15:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:44:914 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:48:664 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 이런 부분들은 강조를 하기 좋음에도 실제 플레이 할 때의 난이도는 평균에 비교해보면 꽤 낮아서 키아이에 걸맞는 패턴인지 생각해 볼 필요가 있다고 봄.

저건 꼭 언급하고 싶어서 한 것일 뿐이고 몇 가지 더 있긴 한데 내가 그걸 굳이 언급하고 싶지 않음. 왜냐면 이 난이도가 이 맵셋에서 빠지고 MAXIMUM 난이도를 최고 난이도로 쓰면서 몇 파트에 상향을 해주는게 훨씬 더 퀄리티가 있어 보이기 때문임. 그리고 저 부분만 MAXIMUM 난이도랑 문제를 공유하고 있기도 하고, 아마도 이 곡을 듣고 맵을 만들면서 새겨진 인식이 그러하다고 생각되는데 그런 인식을 바꾸는게 쉬운 일이 아닌건 알고있으니 다양한 의견을 들어봤으면 좋을 것 같고,

MAXIMUM이랑 비교를 해봤을 때 패턴이 뻗어나가는 힘 자체가 다름 특히 키아이. HEAVENLY 맵에선 디스턴스 스냅으로 이어나가는 패턴이 많아서 그런데, 그런
스냅으로 이어지는 패턴들을 보면서 이건 CS5의 잘못된 사용처가 아닌가 생각했음.

MAXIMUM 난이도의 01:24:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 이런 패턴들, 실제로 플레이 하는 입장에선 까다롭기 그지없는 패턴이란걸 알려나 모르겠는데 HEAVENLY엔 이런 까다로운 패턴이 안보였음. 그저 연타와 CS로 늘린 난이도라는 그런 느낌

만약에 이걸 받아들여서 MAXIMUM 난이도를 상향한다고 하면 일단은 위의 타임스탬프부터 전부 확인하고 01:13:977 (3,4,5) - 이런 변화가 확실하게 느껴지는 파트에서는 앞뒤 패턴 반복하지 않도록만 해도 재미도 챙기고 퀄도 챙긴 맵 나올 거 같음

오랜만에 이런거 말하려니까 두서도 없고 ㅄ같네

분명히 경력 짧은 사람만 요청하라고 했던 것 같아서 아예 안보려다가
맵 자체는 다 괜찮다고 생각해서 이런 맵셋 그 자체에 관련된 의견을 남기고 감

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Kawashiro

1,522 posts

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-05-17T13:56:42+00:00

Beomsan wrote:
HEAVENLY

강조를 해서 난이도가 급격적으로 높아지는 구간이 공감되지 않음.

01:09:759 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:39:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:15:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:44:914 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:48:664 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 이런 부분들은 강조를 하기 좋음에도 실제 플레이 할 때의 난이도는 평균에 비교해보면 꽤 낮아서 키아이에 걸맞는 패턴인지 생각해 볼 필요가 있다고 봄. - 인정한다, 확실히 이 난이도는 가장 처음 만들던거라 내가 노래에 대한 이해가 부족했던것 같아. 다른 난이도 다 만들고 나서 보니까 잡아준것 외에도 여러 문제가 보이는데 이래도 괜찮겠지 생각했는데 역시 네 말대로 아닌것같아.

저건 꼭 언급하고 싶어서 한 것일 뿐이고 몇 가지 더 있긴 한데 내가 그걸 굳이 언급하고 싶지 않음. 왜냐면 이 난이도가 이 맵셋에서 빠지고 MAXIMUM 난이도를 최고 난이도로 쓰면서 몇 파트에 상향을 해주는게 훨씬 더 퀄리티가 있어 보이기 때문임. 그리고 저 부분만 MAXIMUM 난이도랑 문제를 공유하고 있기도 하고, 아마도 이 곡을 듣고 맵을 만들면서 새겨진 인식이 그러하다고 생각되는데 그런 인식을 바꾸는게 쉬운 일이 아닌건 알고있으니 다양한 의견을 들어봤으면 좋을 것 같고,

MAXIMUM이랑 비교를 해봤을 때 패턴이 뻗어나가는 힘 자체가 다름 특히 키아이. HEAVENLY 맵에선 디스턴스 스냅으로 이어나가는 패턴이 많아서 그런데, 그런
스냅으로 이어지는 패턴들을 보면서 이건 CS5의 잘못된 사용처가 아닌가 생각했음. - 이 말에는 동의할 수 없는데... CS는 그냥 서클의 크기일 뿐이야. 이걸 활용하는 방법에 정답도 오답도 없다고 생각해.

MAXIMUM 난이도의 01:24:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 이런 패턴들, 실제로 플레이 하는 입장에선 까다롭기 그지없는 패턴이란걸 알려나 모르겠는데 HEAVENLY엔 이런 까다로운 패턴이 안보였음. 그저 연타와 CS로 늘린 난이도라는 그런 느낌

만약에 이걸 받아들여서 MAXIMUM 난이도를 상향한다고 하면 일단은 위의 타임스탬프부터 전부 확인하고 01:13:977 (3,4,5) - 이런 변화가 확실하게 느껴지는 파트에서는 앞뒤 패턴 반복하지 않도록만 해도 재미도 챙기고 퀄도 챙긴 맵 나올 거 같음

오랜만에 이런거 말하려니까 두서도 없고 ㅄ같네

분명히 경력 짧은 사람만 요청하라고 했던 것 같아서 아예 안보려다가
맵 자체는 다 괜찮다고 생각해서 이런 맵셋 그 자체에 관련된 의견을 남기고 감 - 고맙다

No kds

전부터 고민했는데 이렇게 잡아줘서 고맙다

덕분에 맘 잡았다. 이건 내 매핑 실력과 노래에 대한 이해의 부족이 만든 졸작이야. 지워볼게

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-05-17T14:07:21+00:00

Pennek wrote:
hi from modqueue o/

[General]
fine

[BASIC]
fine

[NOVICE]
fine

[ADVANCED]
00:53:118 (1,2,3,4) - I like the progression from the previous part to this a lot. damn good job of expressing this song in so many different exciting ways. - I just thought 00:46:791 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this part and 00:53:118 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this part are same
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feel this could be slowed down even more to emphasise the next part even better. it's fine as it is now though as well. - hmm, ok no change

[MAXIMUM]
wew, ez mod! - Thanks

pls rank! <3

Thank you guy

Finshie

829 posts

Joined October 2012

Finshie 2017-05-17T19:46:04+00:00

m4m as requested

[BASIC]

01:33:664 (1,2) - not really sure what youre following here. no sound at 01:34:132 - (or atleast a reason the have a slider end on) and 01:34:601 - . You could change to this or remove both sliders and insert a break.
01:39:289 (5) - could halve this slider and change to reverse slider
01:16:321 (2) -you could copy this rhythm to 01:49:601 (3) - for consistency since it both sound the same and the sound ends at red not white tick (or atleast the noticable sound). You also used same rhythm on every diff except this one.

[NOVICE]

01:09:759 (5) - this works fine but not 01:10:696 (6) - it sounds completely different in terms of rhythm. this could work (like what you did at 01:40:343 (2,3) - )
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4) - would be better if u remove this and have a pause here. The sound doesnt really sound good to map tbh except for easy since the sound is so irregular.
the NCs are kinda messy. Like in first kiai, you dont NC that much the ended up with (9) but in 2nd kiai you nc every 2 measures. i suggest making the same nc as 2nd kiai to other parts of the map.

[ADVANCED]

00:17:378 (1,1) - 1beat gap between spinner and next note is fine but the bpm is really high though. how about ending the spinner at 00:19:839 - ?
00:38:119 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - would be nice you could make then all reverse 1/2 or note+1/2 since they all sound the same.
00:49:837 (5) - 1/2+note?
01:02:610 (3) - theres a strong beat on 01:02:727 - and i feel like it should be clickable. why not make it same as 01:02:259 (1,2) - ? the pauses made by reverse slider is kinda awkward too. applies also to 01:03:313 (6) - and 01:25:110 (3,6,3,6) -
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same suggestion in normal.
01:46:085 (5,6) - ctrl+g rhythm 01:46:085 - kinda sound like 01:45:382 (3) - so. same with 01:47:960 (5,6) -
01:58:858 (6) - i think a note would do here.
Took me some time to mod this diff since the way you mapped it sound kinda confusing to me

[Yuria's EXHAUST]
not much else to say. clean diff

[MAXIMUM]

01:06:712 (5) - should be move farther from 01:06:477 (3,4) - since its stronger than those 2 notes. you emphasized it here 01:36:007 (3,4) - though you made 01:36:242 (4,5) - really close.
01:10:813 (6,9) - this doesnt sound the same. 01:11:048 (9) - has sound on blue tick so maybe change this into 2 notes instead.
01:15:969 (4) - definitely both should be clickable the slider end is a strong sound too.
01:28:743 (3,4) - so close. ds should like 01:28:509 (1,2) - . applies to 01:29:094 (6,7) - 01:29:446 (9,10) - and 01:29:797 (12,13) -
01:31:321 (8,9) - make it closer? the distance is kinda hard with this bpm. same with 01:31:555 (9,10) -
01:35:773 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g? (slider+2notes) kinda like 01:06:243 (2,3,4,5,6) -
01:36:242 (5,6) - 6 needs to be emphasized since its a strong sound. like 01:06:712 (5,6) - for example.
01:54:053 (5) - can be mapped better than 1/1 reverse. same with 01:55:459 (5) - . I dont think the the 1/1 pause after the slider is necessary.
01:55:459 (5) - remove drum sampleset here? sounds weird while 02:00:029 (1) - doesnt have drum sampleset

rip HEAVENLY?
gl!~

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2017-05-18T01:44:04+00:00

NM from my queue, sorry for the delay

Red: unrankable issues
Purple: highly recommend to fix

General
try exchanging your combo color 2 and 3, in order to seperate the similar colors (two blue ones and two green ones) to make reading easier at some particular points
hitsound suggestions can work for other diffs

BASIC
00:27:339 (1) - finish on head? same for other diffs
00:40:228 (2,2) - hitsound feels quite empty, try drum whistle on head and drum clap at end for these two sliders?
01:06:009 (3) - not recommended to draw that small curve at end, slider shapes should better be simple and can be easily understood by beginners
01:09:759 (3) - ^

NOVICE
00:40:228 (2,4) - drum whistle on head?
00:48:197 (3) - add drum clap for the bassdrum?
01:16:087 (4) - the drum whistle sounds a bit out of place imo, I suggest to change to drum clap both on head and at end to fit the music better
01:29:212 (2,3) - blanket seems a bit off
there're some rhythm issues in this diff such as 00:11:871 (1,2,3) - , I think your current rhythm didn't really present the important beats but was only sticking to 1/1 to be easy. I think you should try to use the rhythm 01:39:289 (1,2) - at this point instead, it'll express the heavy beat at 00:12:222 - and 00:12:925 - really well. same for 00:13:511 (1,2) - and similar ones later

ADVANCED
00:08:238 (1,1) - this recovery time of spinner is kinda too short for this diff considering the BPM is really high. it'd be better if you end the spinner at 00:11:402 - to give new players more time to catch 00:11:871 (1) - after spinner
00:17:378 (1,1) - same issue, recommended to remove 00:19:839 (1) - and end the spinner here instead
00:26:439 - you don't need to drag the break here, plz make it back to natural, same at 00:52:218 - 01:20:109 - and 01:52:450 -
00:49:837 (5) - remove the reverse and add a circle at 00:50:072 - ? it'll be really nice if people can hit this heavy beat instead of leaving it at a slider end

Yuria's EXHAUST
good diff, the rhythm is really nice
nothing really bothers me in this diff, just confirm, intended to use default clap? I'm ok with it though, not really fitting the music I'd say

MAXIMUM
00:46:556 (8,9,10,11) - these are wrong snapped, they should be 1/3 beats instead of 1/4. you can consider to use reverse sliders instead if you don't want to make it too hard
00:49:603 (8,1) - this spacing is kinda misleading, it feels more like a common 1/2 gap like 00:55:931 (8,1) - instead of 1/1 like 00:48:548 (2,3) - and others, maybe stack 00:49:603 (8,1) - like 00:48:548 (2,3) - ? or maybe move 1 further away
01:57:569 (9) - consider adding NC here or on 01:57:686 (10) - otherwise this comboset is too long
02:00:146 (1) - I don't think this NC is necessary, better remove it, refer to HEAVENLY diff

HEAVENLY
00:08:121 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - why so many NCs here but no NC from 00:09:761 (1) - on? this inconsistency feels really strange
00:39:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - consider a bigger spacing for this stream? it'll fit the keyboard sound better imo. smaller spacings like 00:38:471 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - express the drumbeat well
00:46:556 (7,8,9,10) - these are wrong snapped, they should be 1/3 beats instead of 1/4
00:26:769 - same as mentioned in ADVANCED, drag these breaks back to natural, same for the other breaktime in later parts
01:57:569 (9) - same as MAXIMUM, add a NC here or on 01:57:686 (10) -

that's all for me
good luck~

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

2,695 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-05-18T18:48:56+00:00

네 말대로 CS는 그냥 서클의 크기일 뿐이고, 이걸 활용하는 방법에는 정답도 오답도 없다고 할 수 있겠지만, CS라는 요소는 확실히 민감하게 다루어져야할 요소라고 생각이 들긴 한다

Nostalgic_old

597 posts

Joined January 2013

Nostalgic_old 2017-05-20T16:35:54+00:00

my part for m4m!

Maximum

00:39:760 - 00:43:041 slower sv for this section?
01:04:719 (4,6) - blanket (somewhere like 427, 161) would look nicer
01:28:860 (4,7,10,13) - nc pls
01:32:259 should be a slow sv section
In general it's definitely a clear and enjoyable map. Nothing more to add.

Advanced

00:58:509 (4) - nc
01:39:054 (7,4) - fix stacking manually

Other diffs look fine to me. It's prolly not the most detailed mod so I will simply shoot stars instead.

Chalwa

1,105 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2017-05-21T13:48:51+00:00

Hellow you asked on PM.
[General]

Nothing i think

[BASIC]

00:31:557 (4) - I prefer to make NC here, because it's new strong part here and it looks better.
00:36:478 (1,2) - Why you haven't made a second slider horizontally like previous one on the reverse? (I think you know what i mean)
00:46:791 (1,2) - Ok, in my opinion overlaps on Easy diffs are 100% fine, but this one is really hard to read for newbies, so easier way you can make here is Ctrl + H second slider and then stack end with 00:46:322 (4) circle. Of course you should to move 00:50:072 (1) circle. I think the best place is start of 00:46:791 (1) slider.
01:06:009 (3) - I think this reverse is too late for newbies and it can be kinda disappointing. Better place where you can move a anchor point is second slider tick imo.
01:09:759 (3) - Same as above.

[NOVICE]

00:34:603 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is too hard for normal i think, cause it/s 1/2 125 BPM. I think better thing which you can make here is make 1/1 slider within 00:35:307 (5,6) notes.

I don't like 250 BPM modding, i prefer mapping.
.

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-05-23T18:13:59+00:00

Sorry about delay to check

busy in irl so i'll check it this weekend

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2017-05-24T14:36:58+00:00

Yuria's EXHAUST

모딩이 오지않는 완벽한 갓갓님맵

00:49:837 (9) - 앞패턴에서 00:48:197 (1) - NC가 4/1로 끊겼기에 00:49:837 (9,1) - 도 그냥 앞에서 끊는게 나을가같아요
01:17:259 (1) - 이거 좀 이상한 느낌인데 걍 빼는게 낫지않겠음?
01:50:538 (1) - ^ d
01:29:212 (5,6,7,8) - 별거 아니긴한데 01:28:509 (1,2,3,4) - 랑 너무 다른패턴이 나와서 조금 시각적으로 난잡해보였음..

MAXIMUM

00:06:949 (5,6) - 이 구간이 그나마 조용한 구간이라그런지, 이 구간의 다른 패턴에 비하면 점프가 조금 과한거같아요
00:10:230 (1) - 이 뉴콤은 다른 뉴콤이랑 주기가 맞질 않는데 여기만 구지 뉴콤해야할 필요가있..?
00:17:261 (1) - x302,y355정도가 맵의 디자인(전반적인 DS)과 더 어울리는거같아요.
리듬이 1/4로 다르긴한데 슬라 끝나는부분이기도 하고 =다른부분에도 있고...,= , 뉴콤이있어서 그정도는 문제 안될거같은 느낌
00:30:385 (6) - 빵빠레 소리인진 뭔진 모르겠지만, 이 구간에서 빵빠레 소리에 맞춰서 슬라를 넣은거라면 (6)에서 새 1/2 슬라가 시작되는건 부자연스럽게 느껴지네요.
차라리 (5)를 1/1슬라로 하고 00:30:151 (5) - 에 노트를 넣는게 나을듯.
00:30:503 - 보다 00:30:385 - 가 많이 작은데 작은박자에 새 클릭노트를 넣는건 좀 그런거같아요.
00:34:252 (5,6) - 여기 왜 갑자기 점프? 00:33:783 (3,4) - 에는 점프가 없기에 음에 맞춰서 넣은거라고 보기도 애매한거같음
그냥 기본DS 맞추는게 모양에 더 어울리는거같네요
00:41:166 (4,1) - (1) 박자가 매우 커서 여기서의 안티점프가 적절한지 잘 모르겠네요.
좀만 간격벌려도 충분히 강조의 효과가 나오는거같은데 DS 좀 더 늘리시는게 나을거같아요
하시는 김에, 00:42:221 (3,4,1) - 의 흐름(진행방향?)도 왼쪽에서 오른쪽, 00:43:861 (1,2,3,4,5) - 도 같은 흐름이라 뭔가 부자연스러운 느낌인데
하나는 반대로 바꾸는것도 괜찮을거같네요.
00:47:962 (8,1) - 뉴콤있다고 하지만 그래도 좀더 간격 늘리는게 나은거같아요. 작은 간격배치때문에 뉴콤있어도 강조효과가 부족한느낌
00:56:009 (1,2,3,1) - 간격 불일치
00:57:923 (5) - ctrl+g 가 낫지 않을까요 4,5 / 6,7 각각 같은방향 하는게 플레이도 훨씬 낫긴한데
01:05:540 (8,9) - 그리 큰 문제는 아니긴한데, 다른 슬라이더 곡률을 고려하면 이 슬라 곡률이 조금 높은거같아요. 큰차이는 아니지만 좀만 줄이는게..?
01:09:759 (1) - 와 01:10:110 (2) - 는 박자가 같아야 할거같은 느낌이네요 박자도 완벽하게 같은데 구지 (2)만 1/1로 빼야할 이유가 부족한느낌. 같은부분 두번째 키아이는 같네요.
01:16:790 (7,8) - , 01:50:070 (7,8) - 구조상의 불일치 (점프의 유무)
01:28:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 뉴콤 너무 길어요 패턴상 123,456,789 이렇게 확 떨어지는 구간이 있어서, NC를 안쓰시면 가독성이 좀 떨어지는거같네요.
요즘 맵이던 그 맵을 플레이하는 플레이어던 이미 패턴상에서 NC로 나누는건 익숙해져서 더욱 그럴거같은데
NC를 잘 안쓰는 스타일이신거같은 느낌이 들긴하는데, 01:21:946 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 이런 2/1 NC구간을 보면 아닌거같기도하고..
난이도상 이 파트는 점프랑 안티점프가 섞여서 좀 튀게 어려운거같은데 패턴 리메이크같은건 어떤가요.
01:32:259 - 이부분 볼륨이 너무 커서 노래가 묻히는 감이있는데 좀 줄이시는게 나을거같아요. 특히 01:33:548 - 같이 슬라 끝나는부분이..
01:36:945 (7,8) - 맵의 전반적인 디자인을 고려하면 이 점프는 너무 큰거같아요. 대체적으로 점프는 주요 박자에서만 쓰신거같은데 여기는 구지 이런 큰 점프를 넣어야 하나 싶은 느낌
01:48:195 (7,8) - 박자상.. 1/4 슬라?
01:56:631 (3,4) - 특별한 강박이 없어서 꽤나 부자연스러운 점프였습니다, 차라리 (4)를 (3)에 스택하시는게 나을거같아요. 뒤에꺼도 마찬가지
01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 사실, 이 구간의 패턴이 어떤 리듬을 따라서 노트,슬라가 놓여졌는지 잘 이해가 안되네요..
그렇게 생각하는 이유가 01:56:163 (1,2,3,4) - 와 01:56:866 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 각각으로 나눠서 보면 이해가 안되는건 아닌데,
전체적인 구간으로 놓고보면 노래패턴은 같은데 리듬은 좀 다르게 짜여져있어서.. 1234와 5~12는 노래상 같은 박자로 짜여져야한다고 생각해요.
점프간격도 노래랑은 좀 따로노는 느낌인데, 노래 박자크기따라서 점프도 다시 맞춰넣으심이..
01:56:163 - 뉴콤 좀 넣는게 좋지않을까요, hp드레인도 그렇긴하지만 스트림아니고서는 숫자가 10이상 넘어가면 시각적으로 패턴이 난잡해보이는감이;
02:00:029 (1,1) - 시각적으로 좀 이상해보이는데 뉴콤을 빼던지 슬라로 바꾸던지 노트 하나지우고 슬라 끝으로 처리한다던지..

01:37:882 (3,4) - 01:41:632 (3,4) - 01:44:562 (8,9) - etc, 앞에서는 단일 서클로 썼던 부분들처럼 두번째 키아이 같은부분을 노트로 바꾸는거에 대해 한번 고려해보세요
개인적으로, 앞부분의 키아이에 비해서 2번째 키아이가 드럼(?)이 빽빽해서 그런지 난이도상 좀 더 어려워도 될거같아서 그런지, 뒷부분이 더 쉬운박자를 쓰는거에 대해서 조금 위화감이 들었어요.
01:44:914 (1,2,3,4) - 이 패턴구간의 전반적인 음이 높은편인데 패턴은 앞보다 쉬운 점프없는 패턴이라서 좀 아쉬웠어요. 노래 분위기는 같은데 갑자기 쉬워지는 느낌이랄까. 좀더 어렵게 하는게 낫지않을까 싶어서,,

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-05-28T01:21:47+00:00

Finshie

Finshie wrote:
m4m as requested

[BASIC]
01:33:664 (1,2) - not really sure what youre following here. no sound at 01:34:132 - (or atleast a reason the have a slider end on) and 01:34:601 - . You could change to this or remove both sliders and insert a break.
01:39:289 (5) - could halve this slider and change to reverse slider
01:16:321 (2) -you could copy this rhythm to 01:49:601 (3) - for consistency since it both sound the same and the sound ends at red not white tick (or atleast the noticable sound). You also used same rhythm on every diff except this one.
[NOVICE]
01:09:759 (5) - this works fine but not 01:10:696 (6) - it sounds completely different in terms of rhythm. this could work (like what you did at 01:40:343(2,3) - ) - No, 01:10:696 - this point has pretty strong sound to put clickable object and want to make consistency between 01:09:759 (5,6) - them
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4) - would be better if u remove this and have a pause here. The sound doesnt really sound good to map tbh except for easy since the sound is so irregular.
the NCs are kinda messy. Like in first kiai, you dont NC that much the ended up with (9) but in 2nd kiai you nc every 2 measures. i suggest making the same nc as 2nd kiai to other parts of the map. - because the second kiai has more noisy and messy sound
[ADVANCED]
00:17:378 (1,1) - 1beat gap between spinner and next note is fine but the bpm is really high though. how about ending the spinner at 00:19:839 - ?
00:38:119 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - would be nice you could make then all reverse 1/2 or note+1/2 since they all sound the same.
00:49:837 (5) - 1/2+note?
01:02:610 (3) - theres a strong beat on 01:02:727 - and i feel like it should be clickable. why not make it same as 01:02:259 (1,2) - ? the pauses made by reverse slider is kinda awkward too. applies also to 01:03:313 (6) - and 01:25:110 (3,6,3,6) -
01:33:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same suggestion in normal.
01:46:085 (5,6) - ctrl+g rhythm 01:46:085 - kinda sound like 01:45:382 (3) - so. same with 01:47:960 (5,6) -
01:58:858 (6) - i think a note would do here.
Took me some time to mod this diff since the way you mapped it sound kinda confusing to me
[Yuria's EXHAUST]
not much else to say. clean diff

[MAXIMUM]
01:06:712 (5) - should be move farther from 01:06:477 (3,4) - since its stronger than those 2 notes. you emphasized it here 01:36:007 (3,4) - though you made 01:36:242 (4,5) - really close.
01:10:813 (6,9) - this doesnt sound the same. 01:11:048 (9) - has sound on blue tick so maybe change this into 2 notes instead.
01:15:969 (4) - definitely both should be clickable the slider end is a strong sound too.
01:28:743 (3,4) - so close. ds should like 01:28:509 (1,2) - . applies to 01:29:094 (6,7) - 01:29:446 (9,10) - and 01:29:797 (12,13) -
01:31:321 (8,9) - make it closer? the distance is kinda hard with this bpm. same with 01:31:555 (9,10) -
01:35:773 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g? (slider+2notes) kinda like 01:06:243 (2,3,4,5,6) -
01:36:242 (5,6) - 6 needs to be emphasized since its a strong sound. like 01:06:712 (5,6) - for example.
01:54:053 (5) - can be mapped better than 1/1 reverse. same with 01:55:459 (5) - . I dont think the the 1/1 pause after the slider is necessary.
01:55:459 (5) - remove drum sampleset here? sounds weird while 02:00:029 (1) - doesnt have drum sampleset
rip HEAVENLY?
gl!~

Zero__wind

Zero__wind wrote:
NM from my queue, sorry for the delay

Red: unrankable issues
Purple: highly recommend to fix

General
try exchanging your combo color 2 and 3, in order to seperate the similar colors (two blue ones and two green ones) to make reading easier at some particular points
hitsound suggestions can work for other diffs

BASIC
00:27:339 (1) - finish on head? same for other diffs
00:40:228 (2,2) - hitsound feels quite empty, try drum whistle on head and drum clap at end for these two sliders?
01:06:009 (3) - not recommended to draw that small curve at end, slider shapes should better be simple and can be easily understood by beginners
01:09:759 (3) - ^

NOVICE
00:40:228 (2,4) - drum whistle on head? - No, I don't want it. because I want to emphasis hitfinish sound.
00:48:197 (3) - add drum clap for the bassdrum?
01:16:087 (4) - the drum whistle sounds a bit out of place imo, I suggest to change to drum clap both on head and at end to fit the music better
01:29:212 (2,3) - blanket seems a bit off
there're some rhythm issues in this diff such as 00:11:871 (1,2,3) - , I think your current rhythm didn't really present the important beats but was only sticking to 1/1 to be easy. I think you should try to use the rhythm 01:39:289 (1,2) - at this point instead, it'll express the heavy beat at 00:12:222 - and 00:12:925 - really well. same for 00:13:511 (1,2) - and similar ones later - No, I already consider and about that. But look, 00:11:871 (1,2) - these parts has 8 strong sound. I just want to emphasis first and forth sound so i divided this sound two parts and put clickable object in 1 and 2.

ADVANCED
00:08:238 (1,1) - this recovery time of spinner is kinda too short for this diff considering the BPM is really high. it'd be better if you end the spinner at 00:11:402 - to give new players more time to catch 00:11:871 (1) - after spinner
00:17:378 (1,1) - same issue, recommended to remove 00:19:839 (1) - and end the spinner here instead
00:26:439 - you don't need to drag the break here, plz make it back to natural, same at 00:52:218 - 01:20:109 - and 01:52:450 -
00:49:837 (5) - remove the reverse and add a circle at 00:50:072 - ? it'll be really nice if people can hit this heavy beat instead of leaving it at a slider end

MAXIMUM
00:46:556 (8,9,10,11) - these are wrong snapped, they should be 1/3 beats instead of 1/4. you can consider to use reverse sliders instead if you don't want to make it too hard
00:49:603 (8,1) - this spacing is kinda misleading, it feels more like a common 1/2 gap like 00:55:931 (8,1) - instead of 1/1 like 00:48:548 (2,3) - and others, maybe stack 00:49:603 (8,1) - like 00:48:548 (2,3) - ? or maybe move 1 further away
01:57:569 (9) - consider adding NC here or on 01:57:686 (10) - otherwise this comboset is too long
02:00:146 (1) - I don't think this NC is necessary, better remove it, refer to HEAVENLY diff

that's all for me
good luck~

Nostalgic

Nostalgic wrote:
my part for m4m!

[Maximum]
00:39:760 - 00:43:041 slower sv for this section?
01:04:719 (4,6) - blanket (somewhere like 427, 161) would look nicer
01:28:860 (4,7,10,13) - nc pls
01:32:259 should be a slow sv section
In general it's definitely a clear and enjoyable map. Nothing more to add.

[Advanced]
00:58:509 (4) - nc
01:39:054 (7,4) - fix stacking manually - Hmm? already perfectly stacked between the end of 7 and start of 4

Other diffs look fine to me. It's prolly not the most detailed mod so I will simply shoot stars instead.

Chalwa

Chalwa wrote:
Hellow you asked on PM.
[General]
Nothing i think
[BASIC]
00:31:557 (4) - I prefer to make NC here, because it's new strong part here and it looks better.
00:36:478 (1,2) - Why you haven't made a second slider horizontally like previous one on the reverse? (I think you know what i mean) - 00:33:197 (1,2,1) - I thought these 3 points have same melody and only 00:38:119 (2) - this has different melody
00:46:791 (1,2) - Ok, in my opinion overlaps on Easy diffs are 100% fine, but this one is really hard to read for newbies, so easier way you can make here is Ctrl + H second slider and then stack end with 00:46:322 (4) circle. Of course you should to move 00:50:072 (1) circle. I think the best place is start of 00:46:791 (1) slider. - Hmm, I never think its hard for noobs.
01:06:009 (3) - I think this reverse is too late for newbies and it can be kinda disappointing. Better place where you can move a anchor point is second slider tick imo.
01:09:759 (3) - Same as above.
[NOVICE]
00:34:603 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is too hard for normal i think, cause it/s 1/2 125 BPM. I think better thing which you can make here is make 1/1 slider within 00:35:307 (5,6) notes. - I agree but 1/1 is not a good idea. I just stack them
I don't like 250 BPM modding, i prefer mapping.
.

Lami

Lami wrote:
MAXIMUM

00:06:949 (5,6) - 이 구간이 그나마 조용한 구간이라그런지, 이 구간의 다른 패턴에 비하면 점프가 조금 과한거같아요
00:10:230 (1) - 이 뉴콤은 다른 뉴콤이랑 주기가 맞질 않는데 여기만 구지 뉴콤해야할 필요가있..?
00:17:261 (1) - x302,y355정도가 맵의 디자인(전반적인 DS)과 더 어울리는거같아요.
리듬이 1/4로 다르긴한데 슬라 끝나는부분이기도 하고 =다른부분에도 있고...,= , 뉴콤이있어서 그정도는 문제 안될거같은 느낌
00:30:385 (6) - 빵빠레 소리인진 뭔진 모르겠지만, 이 구간에서 빵빠레 소리에 맞춰서 슬라를 넣은거라면 (6)에서 새 1/2 슬라가 시작되는건 부자연스럽게 느껴지네요.
차라리 (5)를 1/1슬라로 하고 00:30:151 (5) - 에 노트를 넣는게 나을듯.
00:30:503 - 보다 00:30:385 - 가 많이 작은데 작은박자에 새 클릭노트를 넣는건 좀 그런거같아요.
00:34:252 (5,6) - 여기 왜 갑자기 점프? 00:33:783 (3,4) - 에는 점프가 없기에 음에 맞춰서 넣은거라고 보기도 애매한거같음
그냥 기본DS 맞추는게 모양에 더 어울리는거같네요
00:41:166 (4,1) - (1) 박자가 매우 커서 여기서의 안티점프가 적절한지 잘 모르겠네요.
좀만 간격벌려도 충분히 강조의 효과가 나오는거같은데 DS 좀 더 늘리시는게 나을거같아요
하시는 김에, 00:42:221 (3,4,1) - 의 흐름(진행방향?)도 왼쪽에서 오른쪽, 00:43:861 (1,2,3,4,5) - 도 같은 흐름이라 뭔가 부자연스러운 느낌인데
하나는 반대로 바꾸는것도 괜찮을거같네요.
00:47:962 (8,1) - 뉴콤있다고 하지만 그래도 좀더 간격 늘리는게 나은거같아요. 작은 간격배치때문에 뉴콤있어도 강조효과가 부족한느낌
00:56:009 (1,2,3,1) - 간격 불일치
00:57:923 (5) - ctrl+g 가 낫지 않을까요 4,5 / 6,7 각각 같은방향 하는게 플레이도 훨씬 낫긴한데
01:05:540 (8,9) - 그리 큰 문제는 아니긴한데, 다른 슬라이더 곡률을 고려하면 이 슬라 곡률이 조금 높은거같아요. 큰차이는 아니지만 좀만 줄이는게..?
01:09:759 (1) - 와 01:10:110 (2) - 는 박자가 같아야 할거같은 느낌이네요 박자도 완벽하게 같은데 구지 (2)만 1/1로 빼야할 이유가 부족한느낌. 같은부분 두번째 키아이는 같네요.
01:16:790 (7,8) - , 01:50:070 (7,8) - 구조상의 불일치 (점프의 유무)
01:28:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 뉴콤 너무 길어요 패턴상 123,456,789 이렇게 확 떨어지는 구간이 있어서, NC를 안쓰시면 가독성이 좀 떨어지는거같네요.
요즘 맵이던 그 맵을 플레이하는 플레이어던 이미 패턴상에서 NC로 나누는건 익숙해져서 더욱 그럴거같은데
NC를 잘 안쓰는 스타일이신거같은 느낌이 들긴하는데, 01:21:946 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 이런 2/1 NC구간을 보면 아닌거같기도하고..
난이도상 이 파트는 점프랑 안티점프가 섞여서 좀 튀게 어려운거같은데 패턴 리메이크같은건 어떤가요.
01:32:259 - 이부분 볼륨이 너무 커서 노래가 묻히는 감이있는데 좀 줄이시는게 나을거같아요. 특히 01:33:548 - 같이 슬라 끝나는부분이..
01:36:945 (7,8) - 맵의 전반적인 디자인을 고려하면 이 점프는 너무 큰거같아요. 대체적으로 점프는 주요 박자에서만 쓰신거같은데 여기는 구지 이런 큰 점프를 넣어야 하나 싶은 느낌
01:48:195 (7,8) - 박자상.. 1/4 슬라?
01:56:631 (3,4) - 특별한 강박이 없어서 꽤나 부자연스러운 점프였습니다, 차라리 (4)를 (3)에 스택하시는게 나을거같아요. 뒤에꺼도 마찬가지
01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 사실, 이 구간의 패턴이 어떤 리듬을 따라서 노트,슬라가 놓여졌는지 잘 이해가 안되네요..
그렇게 생각하는 이유가 01:56:163 (1,2,3,4) - 와 01:56:866 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 각각으로 나눠서 보면 이해가 안되는건 아닌데,
전체적인 구간으로 놓고보면 노래패턴은 같은데 리듬은 좀 다르게 짜여져있어서.. 1234와 5~12는 노래상 같은 박자로 짜여져야한다고 생각해요.
점프간격도 노래랑은 좀 따로노는 느낌인데, 노래 박자크기따라서 점프도 다시 맞춰넣으심이..
01:56:163 - 뉴콤 좀 넣는게 좋지않을까요, hp드레인도 그렇긴하지만 스트림아니고서는 숫자가 10이상 넘어가면 시각적으로 패턴이 난잡해보이는감이;
02:00:029 (1,1) - 시각적으로 좀 이상해보이는데 뉴콤을 빼던지 슬라로 바꾸던지 노트 하나지우고 슬라 끝으로 처리한다던지..

01:37:882 (3,4) - 01:41:632 (3,4) - 01:44:562 (8,9) - etc, 앞에서는 단일 서클로 썼던 부분들처럼 두번째 키아이 같은부분을 노트로 바꾸는거에 대해 한번 고려해보세요
개인적으로, 앞부분의 키아이에 비해서 2번째 키아이가 드럼(?)이 빽빽해서 그런지 난이도상 좀 더 어려워도 될거같아서 그런지, 뒷부분이 더 쉬운박자를 쓰는거에 대해서 조금 위화감이 들었어요.
01:44:914 (1,2,3,4) - 이 패턴구간의 전반적인 음이 높은편인데 패턴은 앞보다 쉬운 점프없는 패턴이라서 좀 아쉬웠어요. 노래 분위기는 같은데 갑자기 쉬워지는 느낌이랄까. 좀더 어렵게 하는게 낫지않을까 싶어서,,

Sorry for not check MXM diff. I have to remake it.

I don't have enough experience to make Expert diffs when I make it. And now I can realize it's very bad map by you modders.
Anyway I don't want to rank current map. I will remake MXM asap.

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2017-05-28T15:18:00+00:00

BASIC

00:06:246 (3) - ctrl+g? looks better lol
00:19:839 - drum clap
00:43:978 - add a note? or 00:43:041 (1) - make it a slider end here?
01:58:038 (4) - http://puu.sh/w3A3V/24de689f55.jpg

NOVICE

00:19:839 - drum clap

ADVANCED

00:07:535 (6,1) - imo it's more comfortable to raise the slider 6, the part is a bit near to the bottom
00:17:495 (1,1) - due to it's 256 bpm, it's still a little near. I recommend to remove 00:19:839 (1) - and extend the spin here
00:19:839 - drum clap
01:57:452 (6,1) - stack

Yuria's EXHAUST

01:11:282 (8) - ctrl+g may flow better imo, 01:11:048 (7,8) - that ds in 256bpm may cause combo break high possibly.
01:54:756 (1,2) - stack

MAXIMUM

00:10:933 (1,2,3,4) - i hear here should be 1/4 as exhaust diff.
00:33:197 (1) - from this part to 00:38:002 - i think you should use s:c6 clap but not s:c1?

when i mod i havent seem that u say u wanna remake the max diff, so i just post some snapping or hs issues here
since it's a 256bpm song, u'd better think more about mapping streams when remaking because it's really not a easy bpm for players to catch

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-03T08:01:20+00:00

Koiyuki wrote:
BASIC
00:06:246 (3) - ctrl+g? looks better lol - I don't like it.
00:19:839 - drum clap
00:43:978 - add a note? or 00:43:041 (1) - make it a slider end here? - I only add circle. I don't want to break consistency in 00:39:760 (1,2) - 00:41:400 (1,2) -
01:58:038 (4) - http://puu.sh/w3A3V/24de689f55.jpg
NOVICE
00:19:839 - drum clap
ADVANCED
00:07:535 (6,1) - imo it's more comfortable to raise the slider 6, the part is a bit near to the bottom - Hmm, I think current flow is not bad and comfortable.
00:17:495 (1,1) - due to it's 256 bpm, it's still a little near. I recommend to remove 00:19:839 (1) - and extend the spin here
00:19:839 - drum clap
01:57:452 (6,1) - stack

No comment = fix

thanks

milr_

1,332 posts

Joined June 2014

milr_ 2017-06-16T14:29:55+00:00

이제 버블을 도전 하는겁니다.

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

2,695 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-06-17T08:21:58+00:00

막난과 유리아님 난이도 사이에 난이도 하나 더 추가할 계획이 있는지 물어보고 싶네

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-17T08:26:26+00:00

물론 있음

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-06-17T08:59:55+00:00

UnLock- wrote:
물론 있음

뭔 난이도길래...만약 추가하게 되면 랭크 시키는 데 기간이 더 길어질 텐데 괜찮은가?

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

2,695 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-06-17T11:14:48+00:00

난이도 분포가 적절해보이지 않아서 그렇습니다. 스타레이팅은 믿을게 못되지만 4.3 - 6.3 이 간격은 좀 너무 넓지 않나 싶어요

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-06-17T14:44:43+00:00

fixed all. thanks~

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156,272,116514,2,0,P|185:275|215:279,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
292,228,116748,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,120,116866,1,10,0:1:0:0:
208,119,116983,2,0,P|210:148|214:178,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
320,80,117217,2,0,P|317:109|313:139,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
244,32,117452,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,8,117569,5,10,0:1:0:0:
376,8,117686,2,0,P|405:13|434:20,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
408,160,117920,2,0,P|403:130|401:100,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
492,128,118155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
436,252,118272,1,10,0:1:0:0:
436,252,118389,2,0,P|392:248|364:244,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
280,163,118623,2,0,P|284:193|288:223,1,60.000000298023,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
228,292,118858,1,2,0:0:0:0:
228,292,119209,6,0,P|260:216|116:268,1,360.000001788138,14|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,300,119990,2,0,L|132:340,2,40.000000198682,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

milr_

1,332 posts

Joined June 2014

milr_ 2017-06-17T17:49:43+00:00

ㄹㅇ 난이도 추가하실 계획임? lol

tatatat

916 posts

Joined March 2015

tatatat 2017-06-18T19:49:37+00:00

The OD and HP are too low for the Novice diff. I suggest 3 HP and OD since its on the verge of being a normal map. I also suggest increasing the CS in the Novice diff a little. Maybe to 3.5? The Novice diff's HP and OD should also be a little higher. Same with the Advanced. In the Novice diff at 00:08:121 - instead of including a break you could include a spinner with at least 4 beats of recovery time at the end. The volume at through 01:51:707 - 01:56:163 - should be quieter. I don't think there should be any breaks in Yuria's Exhaust or the Heavenly diff at 01:33:665 -
The volume at the beginning of the song should be quieter(before any notes are even played. The volume still affects players playing the map autoconverted into other gamemodes). Overall I think most of the song needs to have the volume adjusted at various points. Too many to point out.
In the Novice diff I think 01:46:789 - should be a start of a new combo since its just the same as the pattern at the beginning of the combo. Making a new combo would also award the player with an additional geki for 300'ing the combo which awards bonus HP. Another thing in the Novice diff, I think that the sliders at 00:04:371 - , 00:05:308 - , 00:06:246 - , and 00:07:183 - should all be curved since the rhythm they represent are all so similar in structure. Despite them being similar, I think the sliders starting at 00:06:246 - should be a part of a new combo and be curved in the opposite direction (curved towards the left instead of the right) since the rhythm they represent is descending now unlike the first two sliders where the rhythm is ascending.

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-18T19:54:24+00:00

milr_ wrote:
ㄹㅇ 난이도 추가하실 계획임? lol

어쩔수 없잖아용...

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-18T20:19:27+00:00

tatatat wrote:
The OD and HP are too low for the Novice diff. I suggest 3 HP and OD since its on the verge of being a normal map. I also suggest increasing the CS in the Novice diff a little. Maybe to 3.5? The Novice diff's HP and OD should also be a little higher. Same with the Advanced. - No, you already know that novice is for noobs. but this diff has some weird beat like 3/2 or 3/1 like 00:58:509 (3,1,2) - here so some noobs can't read it clearly. that's why i set low od and hp
In the Novice diff at 00:08:121 - instead of including a break you could include a spinner with at least 4 beats of recovery time at the end. - Yeah so spinners in here.
The volume at through 01:51:707 - 01:56:163 - should be quieter. I don't think there should be any breaks in Yuria's Exhaust or the Heavenly diff at 01:33:665 -
The volume at the beginning of the song should be quieter(before any notes are even played. The volume still affects players playing the map autoconverted into other gamemodes). Overall I think most of the song needs to have the volume adjusted at various points. Too many to point out. - Idk what you mean about volume. if you mean the song's volume, I can't fix it. I'm not a composer and don't have any rights to fix it. Or if you mean the Hitsound volume, 01:51:707 - that timing point volume doesn't affect before 01:53:350 (1) - this note and It's Standard diff, I don't have to care autoconverted other gamemodes. And 01:56:163 - I don't think this point need to be quieter
In the Novice diff I think 01:46:789 - should be a start of a new combo since its just the same as the pattern at the beginning of the combo. Making a new combo would also award the player with an additional geki for 300'ing the combo which awards bonus HP. - that already has NC
Another thing in the Novice diff, I think that the sliders at 00:04:371 - , 00:05:308 - , 00:06:246 - , and 00:07:183 - should all be curved since the rhythm they represent are all so similar in structure. Despite them being similar, I think the sliders starting at 00:06:246 - should be a part of a new combo and be curved in the opposite direction (curved towards the left instead of the right) since the rhythm they represent is descending now unlike the first two sliders where the rhythm is ascending. - I only fix 00:04:371 (1) - this.

Bluekrait

203 posts

Joined March 2014

Bluekrait 2017-06-18T20:25:53+00:00

Mostly Aesthetic Mod for UnLock-
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[BASIC]

01:08:821 (2,3) - Try increasing the gap between these two notes or overlapping them. Current gap is very narrow:
01:39:289 (5,1) - Same as above:

[NOVICE]

00:05:308 (3,1) - Fix blanket
00:28:042 (2,3) - Gap thing mentioned in BASIC:
00:38:822 (5,1) - Fix blanket
01:08:821 (3,4) - ^
01:12:571 (3,4) - ^
01:29:212 (2,3) - ^
01:47:492 (2,3,4) - Even out the distance between the sliders and the center circle (2):

[ADVANCED]

00:05:777 (7,2) - Overlap these just a little bit more to match 00:06:246 (2,3) and 00:07:183 (5,6)
00:34:252 (4,5) - Fix blanket
00:44:681 (7,1) - Narrow gap here, though not as extreme as previous ones.
01:09:524 (7,1) - ^
01:17:141 (1) - Remove NC? It looks out of place, not just because it isn't on a big white tick.
01:14:329 (4,5) - Blanket
01:16:204 (5,6) - ^
01:22:649 (8,1) - ^ (this one's not too bad)
01:59:209 (1,2) - ^ (fix this one especially because it's the last note)

[Yuria's EXHAUST]

00:54:524 (9,9) - Consider NC'ing these and messing with SV to mirror 00:48:197 (1,1)

[HEAVENLY]

01:17:141 (1) - Remove NC, it looks out of place with all previous combos.
Stream sections were a bit too intense for me. Don't let this concern you too much though, I'm generally bad at streams.
01:59:326 (1) - Super short spinner! Consider Moving it back to the blue tick at 01:59:267 or even the 1/8 at 01:59:238 to give players enough time for full spin.

Awesome set you have here! PM me when Toybot submits his GD and I'll mod that too. Hopefully it will bridge the gap between Yuria's EXHAUST and HEAVENLY.

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

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Enon 2017-06-19T07:20:34+00:00

와우 토이봇 ㅋㅋ

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-19T16:18:46+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
Mostly Aesthetic Mod for UnLock-
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[BASIC]
01:08:821 (2,3) - Try increasing the gap between these two notes or overlapping them. Current gap is very narrow: - hmm? it has no problem
01:39:289 (5,1) - Same as above: - it has no problem
[NOVICE]
00:05:308 (3,1) - Fix blanket - Already perfect blanket
00:28:042 (2,3) - Gap thing mentioned in BASIC:
00:38:822 (5,1) - Fix blanket - Already perfect blanket
01:08:821 (3,4) - ^
01:12:571 (3,4) - ^
01:29:212 (2,3) - ^
01:47:492 (2,3,4) - Even out the distance between the sliders and the center circle (2):
[ADVANCED]
00:05:777 (7,2) - Overlap these just a little bit more to match 00:06:246 (2,3) and 00:07:183 (5,6) - No
00:34:252 (4,5) - Fix blanket - Already perfect blanket
00:44:681 (7,1) - Narrow gap here, though not as extreme as previous ones.
01:09:524 (7,1) - ^
01:17:141 (1) - Remove NC? It looks out of place, not just because it isn't on a big white tick.
01:14:329 (4,5) - Blanket - Already perfect blanket. all of these
01:16:204 (5,6) - ^
01:22:649 (8,1) - ^ (this one's not too bad)
01:59:209 (1,2) - ^ (fix this one especially because it's the last note)
[HEAVENLY]
01:17:141 (1) - Remove NC, it looks out of place with all previous combos.
Stream sections were a bit too intense for me. Don't let this concern you too much though, I'm generally bad at streams.
01:59:326 (1) - Super short spinner! Consider Moving it back to the blue tick at 01:59:267 or even the 1/8 at 01:59:238 to give players enough time for full spin.
Awesome set you have here! PM me when Toybot submits his GD and I'll mod that too. Hopefully it will bridge the gap between Yuria's EXHAUST and HEAVENLY.

no comment = fix

thanks

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2017-06-28T06:36:34+00:00

루엘이 대화를 요청합니다.

아직도 멀었어? 이 맵 기다리는 사람이 많아보일 것 같은데

쑻

Last edited by Luel Roseline 2017-06-28T06:36:54+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kawashiro

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-28T10:03:31+00:00

Luel Roseline wrote:
루엘이 대화를 요청합니다.

아직도 멀었어? 이 맵 기다리는 사람이 많아보일 것 같은데

쑻

:thinking:

dsco

287 posts

Joined April 2014

dsco 2017-06-30T04:01:35+00:00

i think you will need another extra diff between the top 2

basic
00:33:197 (1,2,1,2) - rhythm doesnt follow the music very well
01:08:821 (2,3) - bodies too close
01:23:821 (6,1) - fix stack
01:53:350 (1,2) - doesnt follow music well, separating into two 2/1 sliders is better

novice
00:11:871 (1) - the second red tick under this slider should have something mapped to it. i think http://i.imgur.com/P4PiKUb.png
00:12:574 (2) - 00:13:511 (1) - 00:14:214 (2) - 00:15:152 (1,2,3) - ^
00:32:728 (4,1) - stack is misleading, especially with parts like 00:35:307 (5,6) -
00:36:478 (1,2) - slight overlap is ugly
00:41:400 (3) - slider should start on the previous white tick
00:44:916 (3) - NC
00:46:791 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 00:53:118 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 01:02:259 (1,2) - 01:24:759 (1,2) - 01:26:634 (1,2) - same rhythm suggestion as intro
01:10:696 (6) - doesnt follow music well
01:22:884 (5) - NC

advanced
00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - rhythm like this: http://i.imgur.com/lhZyYV5.png works much better since the red ticks are far more emphasized (or follow 00:53:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
00:13:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:15:152 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:43:861 (3,4,5,6,7) - overly dense rhythm, doesnt follow the music well
01:02:259 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - overly dense rhythm. you map this differently many times in the map, it should be more consistent (see: 00:53:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:24:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ) each one of those is mapped differently but its the same rhythms. definitely needs to be ironed out.
01:54:053 (5) - doesnt deserve to be clickable. i think this combo doesnt follow the melody very well, half the melody is clickable and half isnt, and its random how its organized / divided.
01:55:811 (7,1) - slight overlap is ugly
01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - doesnt follow the music well, repeats at different intervals

not much to say on yuria's, very well mapped

heavenly
00:06:128 (8) - should be emphasized more
00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - these should not be grouped in 5s/3s, for 1/3 streams you want to group them in 4s since the important ticks repeat in 3s and not 4s. the map doesnt follow the music well since the red and white ticks dont have emphasis like in the music
00:31:323 (7,8,9) - i dont think this sound is loud enough to deserve to be mapped, at least 2 kicksliders would be better than trilpe
00:31:440 (9,1,1) - slight overlaps dont look good
00:45:619 (6,7) - supposed to be 1/3
00:49:602 (2,1) - fix stack
00:54:407 (3,4) - doesnt play well since its nearly unreadable rhythm that the second one starts on the blue tick.
01:06:009 (1,2) - bigger spacing would be nice since this almost reads like 1/2
01:21:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - reduce spacing / rhythmic density? this part is rather quiet. also it is the hardest part of the map by a lot and raises the SR despite this part being so gentle in the music
01:56:748 (4,5) - stacking these emphasises 4 but not 5 (see also:" 01:57:452 (1,2) - 01:58:155 (5,6) -

Kawashiro

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-06-30T16:20:53+00:00

dsco

dsco wrote:
i think you will need another extra diff between the top 2

basic
00:33:197 (1,2,1,2) - rhythm doesnt follow the music very well
01:08:821 (2,3) - bodies too close
01:23:821 (6,1) - fix stack
01:53:350 (1,2) - doesnt follow music well, separating into two 2/1 sliders is better

novice
00:11:871 (1) - the second red tick under this slider should have something mapped to it. i think http://i.imgur.com/P4PiKUb.png - No, I already know this point has sound like https://puu.sh/wycFI/50f8ac9282.png that circles. so i tried to unify every 4 sounds like current slider. in your pattern, 4th sound is dead
00:12:574 (2) - 00:13:511 (1) - 00:14:214 (2) - 00:15:152 (1,2,3) - ^ - ^
00:32:728 (4,1) - stack is misleading, especially with parts like 00:35:307 (5,6) - - No. at first, 00:32:728 (4,1) - this point has a very special sount so i put stack. second, its not hard for normal player. they aren't stupid
00:36:478 (1,2) - slight overlap is ugly - Not ugly
00:41:400 (3) - slider should start on the previous white tick - No. If you thinking 00:39:525 - this point and 00:41:166 - this point are same,
that's wrong. also 00:39:525 (1) - this slidertail and 00:41:400 (3) - this sliderhead had different sound.
00:44:916 (3) - NC
00:46:791 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 00:53:118 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 01:02:259 (1,2) - 01:24:759 (1,2) - 01:26:634 (1,2) - same rhythm suggestion as intro - ^^^^
01:10:696 (6) - doesnt follow music well
01:22:884 (5) - NC - No, 01:21:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - all of them has same sound.

advanced
00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - rhythm like this: http://i.imgur.com/lhZyYV5.png works much better since the red ticks are far more emphasized (or follow 00:53:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) - No, mine is much better. because this can emphasize sounds what you point out and 00:13:277 (5) - this bass sound
00:13:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:15:152 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ - ^
00:43:861 (3,4,5,6,7) - overly dense rhythm, doesnt follow the music well - It follows the music well
01:02:259 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - overly dense rhythm. you map this differently many times in the map, it should be more consistent (see: 00:53:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:24:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ) each one of those is mapped differently but its the same rhythms. definitely needs to be ironed out. - that sounds you pointed out has all different sound. ofc it has same beat but different timbre. so i mapped different style.
01:54:053 (5) - doesnt deserve to be clickable. i think this combo doesnt follow the melody very well, half the melody is clickable and half isnt, and its random how its organized / divided. - huh? it follows melody very well?
01:55:811 (7,1) - slight overlap is ugly - not ugly
01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - doesnt follow the music well, repeats at different intervals - no, it follows the music well

not much to say on yuria's, very well mapped

heavenly
00:06:128 (8) - should be emphasized more - 00:06:128 (8,1) - already this gap is emphasizing it
00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - these should not be grouped in 5s/3s, for 1/3 streams you want to group them in 4s since the important ticks repeat in 3s and not 4s. the map doesnt follow the music well since the red and white ticks dont have emphasis like in the music - this NC cycle is following piano rhythm. if you listen piano carefully, you can realize 00:08:121 (1,1,1,1) - all of them has same high tone piano sound. so i divide nc every 12 sounds.
00:31:323 (7,8,9) - i dont think this sound is loud enough to deserve to be mapped, at least 2 kicksliders would be better than trilpe - 2 kicksliders are stronger than 3 stream, and this stream emphasize next pattern.
00:31:440 (9,1,1) - slight overlaps dont look good - because of higher ar, there are no overlaps in playing.
00:45:619 (6,7) - supposed to be 1/3
00:49:602 (2,1) - fix stack
00:54:407 (3,4) - doesnt play well since its nearly unreadable rhythm that the second one starts on the blue tick. - it because of your lack of reading skill. I have no reason to use only readable patterns
01:06:009 (1,2) - bigger spacing would be nice since this almost reads like 1/2
01:21:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - reduce spacing / rhythmic density? this part is rather quiet. also it is the hardest part of the map by a lot and raises the SR despite this part being so gentle in the music - that stream is inspired by sdvx. i know this part is quiet and so i put stream in here.
01:56:748 (4,5) - stacking these emphasises 4 but not 5 (see also:" 01:57:452 (1,2) - 01:58:155 (5,6) - - Hmm, I'll think more about it

Thanks

Justysuwu

184 posts

Joined July 2016

Justysuwu 2017-06-30T19:59:48+00:00

Hi

BASIC

01:11:868 (1) - instead this make 1 beat slider ended in this circle
01:58:038 (4,1) - there would be some distance between these sliders

NOVICE

01:06:009 (5) - make this one beat shorter and in break get circle
01:16:790 (5) - end this on green line

ADVANCED

Good map! I can't find somethink bad

Yuria's EXHAUST

00:16:909 (11) - too big combo
01:59:990 (2) - i think two arrows more

HEAVENTLY

01:17:141 (8) - instead this make half-beat slider

[lucky:1337]Good Luck![/lucky:1337]

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

YooA 2017-07-02T14:13:52+00:00

HEAVENTLY

01:27:805 (8,1,2) - 이부분 새로운 리듬이 01:27:923 - 여기서부터 시작하는데 뉴콤보가 01:28:040 (1) - 여기에 박혀있어서 그런지 들으면서 많이 어색했어요. 여기 박자를 https://puu.sh/wzIDP/e2b655e0d2.png 이런식으로 바꾸는건 어떨까요?

01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 이부분 노랫소리가 점점 커지는데 반영이 안된 것 같아요. 오히려 01:58:389 (7,8) - 이부분은 더 간격이 줄어들엇네요.

갓맵 ㄷㄷ

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-04T14:09:18+00:00

Revia wrote:
HEAVENTLY
01:27:805 (8,1,2) - 이부분 새로운 리듬이 01:27:923 - 여기서부터 시작하는데 뉴콤보가 01:28:040 (1) - 여기에 박혀있어서 그런지 들으면서 많이 어색했어요. 여기 박자를 https://puu.sh/wzIDP/e2b655e0d2.png 이런식으로 바꾸는건 어떨까요? - 앞의 01:26:165 (1,2) - 이 둘과 뒤의 01:29:915 (9,10) - 이 둘 사이의 일관성을 위해서 일부러 이정도 이레귤러는 무시하고 싶었어요. 그리고 시작은 분명 집어주신데가 맞지만 01:28:040 (1,2) - 이 둘의 시작지점에도 괜찮은 소리가 있기 때문에 지금 이대로도 문제 없다고 생각해요

01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 이부분 노랫소리가 점점 커지는데 반영이 안된 것 같아요. 오히려 01:58:389 (7,8) - 이부분은 더 간격이 줄어들엇네요.

갓맵 ㄷㄷ

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Hi
BASIC
01:11:868 (1) - instead this make 1 beat slider ended in this circle - No, I think new melody is start at 01:11:868 (1) - here so i want to put clickable object
01:58:038 (4,1) - there would be some distance between these sliders - Hmm, I'll think more about this
NOVICE
01:06:009 (5) - make this one beat shorter and in break get circle
01:16:790 (5) - end this on green line - same as Heavenly, i just follow electric organ sound.
ADVANCED
Good map! I can't find somethink bad
HEAVENTLY
01:17:141 (8) - instead this make half-beat slider - No, I just follow electric organ sound. this sound starts at 8 and finish at 01:17:727 -
here. but i want to put break so i didn't map 01:17:259 - here

[lucky:1337]Good Luck![/lucky:1337]

No comment = fix

Thanks

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2017-07-05T15:31:22+00:00

Hey! Modding by PM request ^^
Only modding the top two diffs as asked for (but also general stuff about the set)

[General]

Even if Yuria's Exhaust has some patterns that resemble far 1/2 jumps like in toybot's diff, a diff inbetween those two diffs would feel more appropriate looking at the SR especially. Consider adding a 5* diff too (And yes, toybot's diff was supposed to even out the spread but it still seems kinda uneven)
Just a suggestion but maybe AR 7 or so on ADVANCED to make the AR spread more linear?

[toybot's MAXIMUM]

I am in love this diff tbh, so pretty much only minor stuff xd
00:28:510 (4,2) - Fix the stack pls thanks
00:38:471 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Looking closer, I can see that you decreased spacing for every hitcircle but it isn't really conveyed to the player that much imo, maybe increase the spacing for 00:38:353 (2,1) - and then go lower spacing for the following patterns by DS x0.2?
01:02:610 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Also, since you do this for so many of the 1-2s, what about decreasing the spacing gradually?

[HEAVENLY]

Why not 'HE4VENLY' for the diff name
00:11:402 - This seems to be 1/4 is you listen to it at 25%, please snap these to 1/4 and not to 1/3 ^^
00:11:871 - to 00:15:152 - Imo, the 1/2 sliders don't really fit here, because:
1. There aren't even sounds on the slider ends
2. You also use 1/2 sliders for this part 00:15:152 - which actually has a sound on every tail, so using the same rhythm for two different parts of the song feels a bit weird
3. It would help to emphasize the flute more if you remove the slider ends because that makes the hitcircles stand out more

So yeah, I feel like those sliders should be turned into hitcircles, consider reworking that part a bit
00:13:980 (4,8) - 00:15:620 (4,8) - I'm not sure if this is actually rankable:

Ranking Criteria wrote:
When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.
And since these two sliders are overlapping each other before the first one fully fades out, this could be considered unrankable. Might wanna ask for opinions on this though
00:27:339 - This part seems to have pretty inconsistent NCing or there might be a different concept used, why aren't the downbeats NCed like you did in the previous part (or maybe even only every two downbeats)? (The NCs would be 00:27:339 (5) - 00:28:745 (2) - 00:29:448 (4) - 00:30:151 (6) - 00:30:854 (2) - )
00:32:318 - I don't really like how this sound is skipped, maybe a rhythm like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8516546 could work?
00:33:197 - Up to you I guess, but by using the soft-hitclaps for hitsounding in this part, you aren't able to hitsound the kicks which could work better in this intense part imo.
00:40:580 (3,3) - Hmm, I find it weird that you prioritize NCing 00:39:760 (1,1) - rather than the mentioned ones, might wanna NC those instead
00:43:861 (2) - What about a drum-hitclap on the head and a drum-hitwhistle on the tail?
01:04:134 (1,2) - 01:06:009 (1,2,3) - 01:13:509 (1,2,3) - These patterns could have the same rhythm imo, there isn't really any consistent pattern used here and I don't see why they are so different in the song to make use of different rhythm
I don't think this will be too dramatic but I find it weird that the first kiai has bigger overall spacing than the second kiai. Compare for example 01:05:305 (7,8,9) - and 01:38:585 (6,7,8) - | 01:14:212 (5,6) - and 01:43:507 (3,4,5) - . This might be because of the differences in rhythm too, so you might want to consider making things more consistent if you like.
01:59:209 (1,1,2) - Do these patterns really need such large spacing? It will make the player break unnecessarily since the song isn't exactly too strong here imo. Rotating 02:00:029 (1,2) - by 90° (clockwise) and stacking it with 01:58:858 (9) - looks better tbh

Ok, I'm done now, looks like a nice set overall.
GL!

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-07-05T16:33:12+00:00

Your message is too short.

Bluekrait

203 posts

Joined March 2014

Bluekrait 2017-07-06T10:53:46+00:00

Follow-up Mod for toybot
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[toybot's MAXIMUM]

00:04:839 (3,4,5,6,1) - 00:05:777 (3,4,5,1) - Might I recommend increasing stream SV for these streams and/or decreaseing stream SV for 00:08:589 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 00:10:464 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) Even though you prefaced each of those sections with a long reverse, I felt it wasn't enough.
00:16:323 (2) - Ran out of room? hehe
01:04:134 (1) - 01:11:516 (4) - Kiai?
01:11:868 (1) - 01:16:790 (1) - ^
01:35:773 (1) - 01:50:421 (1) - ^

UnLock- you need another difficulty (5.xx stars) to bridge the gap between toybot's Maximum (6.03 stars) and Yuria's Exhaust (4.33 stars). Star difficulty ain't lying either, Yuria's has no streams, then jumping to toybot, you suddenly have long 256 bpm streams.

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-06T10:56:26+00:00

I know that gap is too big between MXM and EXH. I'm searching another GD now. Actually I really don't want to map this song again. XD

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-06T18:26:05+00:00

Hmm. I also can't believe my decide, I want to try to remake Heavenly diff because of just 1 reason. At first, I thought I perfectly understood of this song because I heard this song over than 400 times. But that's wrong. By the toybot's diff and sdvx playing movie, i've found too many missed sounds in whole part of my diff. ofc i want to rank this, but its not with shit map. idk how long this will take, I'll make perfect beatmap.

@_DT3 : I'm sry. Plz call me when you need modding, GD or any help! ><

~~왜케 놓친 박자도 많고 맵도 구데기같지... 이번엔 더 집중해서 제대로 만들어봄 ㅇㅇ 이게 다 노래가 구데기같아서 그런거임~~

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-07-08T18:28:52+00:00

헐? 묵혀둔 맥시멈이 있었어...그것도 네가 삭제했던...

Blan_C

306 posts

Joined March 2016

Blan_C 2017-07-09T10:15:16+00:00

Hello, NM from my queue

ADVANCED

00:04:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I think rythm here is wrongly done. I dont know whats the point of placing these 1/1 00:04:605 (2,7,3,6) - it is not following the piano at all as there are sounds on red ticks. That being said these 1/1 are misplaced. Try to follow piano as you did 00:05:074 (4,5,6) - to not break rythm that drastically
00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Every strong beat on red tick is skipped. Why? You can use sliders like 00:31:557 (1,2,3,4) - to make reverse on these sounds. Imo for now its terrible, please fix that!
01:37:414 - You skipped important sound here, 01:37:296 (1) - is missplaced. Just do it like that:

Yuria's EXHAUST

00:40:580 (3,3) - Please put NC's on these.

Good luck!

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-07-11T04:54:06+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
[Yuria's EXHAUST]
00:54:524 (9,9) - Consider NC'ing these and messing with SV to mirror 00:48:197 (1,1) SV was not added, fixed NC'ing

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Yuria's EXHAUST
00:16:909 (11) - too big combo
01:59:990 (2) - i think two arrows more i think it's fine. because the sound ends at 02:00:146 -

Blan_C wrote:
Yuria's EXHAUST
00:40:580 (3,3) - Please put NC's on these.

i fixed all NC'ing.

Thanks all

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Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-16T15:01:31+00:00

give up

i realized that i'm not good at mapping while try to make the hardest diff

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

2,695 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-07-18T19:03:58+00:00

please don't throw out your mapset with GDs anymore

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-18T21:12:24+00:00

Enon wrote:
please don't throw out your mapset with GDs anymore

I never threw out this set. Just five up to make the hardest diff

Left

2,161 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2017-08-01T05:55:36+00:00

lick toybot

Left

2,161 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2017-08-01T06:05:52+00:00

[toybot]
00:07:066 (1,2) - can make it not touching each other
01:41:515 (2,3,4) - stack
00:46:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - loved this idea
01:10:989 - i hope you map this sound a bit strong but only 01:11:106 - sth here was kinda dizzy

actually the only truth of this map.jpg

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-08-16T08:03:07+00:00

it isn't dead

just waiting gd

Jemzuu

600 posts

Joined February 2016

Jemzuu 2017-08-24T17:10:53+00:00

#modreqs

[toybot]
00:41:400 (1,3) - blancc
00:42:221 (1,2) - ^
00:46:556 (2) - ctrl g perhaps movement feels better here imo
00:51:009 (2) - lower this slider a bit pls or idk if this is intended
01:00:266 (2,3) - overlap?
01:17:259 (1) - silence this slider pls
01:37:882 (2) - why does this slider have a read dot while 01:38:117 (3) - doesn't

[Yuria]
00:59:212 (3,2) - fix blank
01:58:858 (4) - idk maybe placae this inside the slider

such perfect mapping, didn't find anything on the rest of the diffs gj
ranked soon(tm)

Stormiverse

230 posts

Joined July 2016

Stormiverse 2017-08-31T16:18:49+00:00

NM from my Q~
Sorry for being kinda slow with these, school stuff happening.

I'm not familiar with your mapping style, so I won't be able to make quality mod. Sorry for that.
(I'm also not good with high BPM stuff too. Forgot to add that to the guidelines. Sorry!)
(I won't be able to finish your other request as well. Sorry.)

[BASIC]

01:58:038 (4,1) - These two should't be stacked as you've used stacking only for 1-measure long gap, like at 00:43:041 (1,2,1) - , or 01:23:821 (6,1) - . Stacking them here would cause inconsistency.

I'll shoot a Star instead, because that was the only thing I was able to find in this set.
Happy Ranking!
(no kudos for this lousy thing I call a mod, please)

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-01T07:51:38+00:00

Stormiverse wrote:
NM from my Q~
Sorry for being kinda slow with these, school stuff happening.

I'm not familiar with your mapping style, so I won't be able to make quality mod. Sorry for that.
(I'm also not good with high BPM stuff too. Forgot to add that to the guidelines. Sorry!)
(I won't be able to finish your other request as well. Sorry.)

[BASIC]
01:58:038 (4,1) - These two should't be stacked as you've used stacking only for 1-measure long gap, like at 00:43:041 (1,2,1) - , or 01:23:821 (6,1) - . Stacking them here would cause inconsistency.

I'll shoot a Star instead, because that was the only thing I was able to find in this set.
Happy Ranking!
(no kudos for this lousy thing I call a mod, please)

Fixed, Thanks!

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-12T13:46:06+00:00

yo, sorry for the delay @@

GD done!

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Enon

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Enon 2017-09-15T00:13:45+00:00

hi scarlet

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[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-15T14:31:30+00:00

Enon wrote:
hi scarlet

hi Enon im a big fan

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2017-09-16T15:47:57+00:00

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Kawashiro

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Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-17T00:16:59+00:00

Luel Roseline wrote:
01:59:209 - 스피너 길이가 너무 짧은 거 아닐까 의심이 되는데 언랭의심좀 해봐야 할 것 같수다. 노티브의 경우 슬라이더로 마무리되어 있는데 음...

Ranking Criteria wrote:
Avoid spinners less than 4 beats. Players need time to recognize that they have to begin spinning.

이지의 가이드라인 기준으로 4박자 이하의 스피너는 피하라고 써있는데 이건 5박이라 문제없음

toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-09-17T06:10:51+00:00

did all for _dt3

Bluekrait wrote:
Follow-up Mod for toybot
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[toybot's MAXIMUM]
00:04:839 (3,4,5,6,1) - 00:05:777 (3,4,5,1) - Might I recommend increasing stream SV for these streams and/or decreaseing stream SV for 00:08:589 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 00:10:464 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) Even though you prefaced each of those sections with a long reverse, I felt it wasn't enough. // eh, i think the sliders establish the beat well enough, and its meant to be slightly confusing with how i made the velocities
00:16:323 (2) - Ran out of room? hehe // ye
01:04:134 (1) - 01:11:516 (4) - Kiai?
01:11:868 (1) - 01:16:790 (1) - ^
01:35:773 (1) - 01:50:421 (1) - ^
UnLock- you need another difficulty (5.xx stars) to bridge the gap between toybot's Maximum (6.03 stars) and Yuria's Exhaust (4.33 stars). Star difficulty ain't lying either, Yuria's has no streams, then jumping to toybot, you suddenly have long 256 bpm streams.

Left wrote:
[toybot]
00:07:066 (1,2) - can make it not touching each other
01:41:515 (2,3,4) - stack
00:46:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - loved this idea
01:10:989 - i hope you map this sound a bit strong but only 01:11:106 - sth here was kinda dizzy // eh i dont want to overdo it too much

actually the only truth of this map.jpg // w

AJamez wrote:
#modreqs

[toybot]
00:41:400 (1,3) - blancc // not intentional
00:42:221 (1,2) - ^ // ??????
00:46:556 (2) - ctrl g perhaps movement feels better here imo
00:51:009 (2) - lower this slider a bit pls or idk if this is intended
01:00:266 (2,3) - overlap?
01:17:259 (1) - silence this slider pls
01:37:882 (2) - why does this slider have a read dot while 01:38:117 (3) - doesn't

such perfect mapping, didn't find anything on the rest of the diffs gj
ranked soon(tm)

thanks! https://0paste.com/15344.txt

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-17T12:16:44+00:00

Yea, I think the spinner should be fine. If the issue still persist I can always make some adjustment there.
Oh yea, remember to add my name into the tags

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-17T12:18:44+00:00

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:
Yea, I think the spinner should be fine. If the issue still persist I can always make some adjustment there.
Oh yea, remember to add my name into the tags

ok ><

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-18T03:35:28+00:00

Updated

pewdekz

330 posts

Joined January 2015

pewdekz 2017-09-18T09:21:28+00:00

LOVE THIS SONG

I FEEL THE BACKGROUND DOESN'T FIT IT THOUGH (BUT THAT'S MY OPINION)

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-09-21T18:04:29+00:00

AJamez wrote:
[Yuria]
00:59:212 (3,2) - fix blank i think it's good now.
01:58:858 (4) - idk maybe placae this inside the slider i think it's better to stack.

늦어서 죄송합니다. 사소한것 몇가지 수정했습니다.

code

osu file format v14

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SampleSet: Soft
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Mode: 0
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TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
Artist:kamome sano Electric Orchestra
ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
Creator:Kawashiro
Version:Yuria's EXHAUST
Source:SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN
Tags:The 6th KAC Original Song Contest Winner Near Noah Welcome to Heaven sdvx 4 Yuria [ -Scarlet- ] toybot
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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-10-19T02:28:13+00:00

toybot's HEAVENLY

00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Not really liking how the rhythm shifts from long repeat into 1/3 streams to 1/3 sliders. I think you can introduce the rhythm density shift a bit better here. Right now its randomly going from holds to 1/3 clicks to 1/3 sliders etc...
00:36:244 (6) - 1/4 repeat instead?
00:51:478 (1,2,3) - This just feels really simple for the drums in the bg. Make it more dense maybe?
01:45:734 (1,2,3,1) - 2/3/4 feel way too close together xP

Scarlet's MAXIMUM

00:28:042 (3,2) - Any way you can get thsi arrangement to look a bit neater?

~

00:40:580 (1,1) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical. They look so close but its a bit different so it throws ppl offx xP
01:00:266 (2) - Could be more symmetrical/
01:11:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern just doesn't look that well structured compared to your other stuff.
01:45:148 (3,4,1,2) - This linear transition is just really poor imo. You're using 180 degree movements as well as a very small decrease in spacing. I'd really do with a diferent pattern here cuz you really kill the flow xP.

Yuria EXHAUST

00:41:400 (1,1) - Kinda off on the head

~

01:02:962 (5) - This should be NC'ed for consistency with how you NC earlier patterns. See: 00:15:152 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 00:31:557 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

ADVANCED

00:05:777 (7,2) - xd can you not overlap thanks.

looks good.

NOVICE / BASIC

Look good too.

[]

There's kind of a diff-gap between NOVICE and ADVANCED since ADVANCED is mapped with a lot of 1/2 rhythm in mind. I would consider adding a difficulty in between that uses both 1/2 and 1/1 rhythm evenly. The difficulties currently look good as they are so I wouldn't recommend making more changes. If you disagree feel free to get two other modders' opinions (one preferably being another BN).

You can call me back once this concern has been clearned up (and other mods have been replied to).

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-10-19T06:45:40+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Scarlet's MAXIMUM

00:28:042 (3,2) - Any way you can get thsi arrangement to look a bit neater?
~
Right, didn't realize the overlap before

00:40:580 (1,1) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical. They look so close but its a bit different so it throws ppl offx xP
Decided not to make it symmetrical >.>

01:00:266 (2) - Could be more symmetrical/
Hopefully it's better now

01:11:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern just doesn't look that well structured compared to your other stuff.
Made it consistent

01:45:148 (3,4,1,2) - This linear transition is just really poor imo. You're using 180 degree movements as well as a very small decrease in spacing. I'd really do with a diferent pattern here cuz you really kill the flow xP.
Kinda, restructured the pattern here

Thanks Mr Monstrata

Made few tweaks on my own, nothing major

Code

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TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
Artist:kamome sano Electric Orchestra
ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
Creator:Kawashiro
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Tags:The 6th KAC Original Song Contest Winner Near Noah Welcome to Heaven sdvx 4 Yuria [ -Scarlet- ] toybot
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I like the old bg better :c

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-10-28T08:04:16+00:00

overlap fixed

And about difficulty spread, I think it already fine. of course i thought Nov-Adv has too big difficulty gaps but Bas-Nov also. Basic has pretty slow sv and all of beats have more than 2/1 gaps. And Novice, It contains "weird" beats like 00:59:915 (1,2) - 3/2 gaps and many circles. this makes noobs who familiar with 1/1 to confuse beats.

Anyway these diffs are for noobs so I'd asked about this issue to an random Normal-diff players. (#828,328) He can playes almost Normal diff and some slow Hard diff.

His comment

16:43 *Kawashiro is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1360081 kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~]
16:43 Kawashiro: lol
16:44 Kawashiro: play Basic, Novice, Advanced diffs
16:44 Kawashiro: and tell me how do u think about difficulty of them
16:44 Demon_Akuma: Wanna spec me play them?
16:44 Kawashiro: yea
16:44 Kawashiro: i'll spec u
16:47 Demon_Akuma: That was slow xD
16:47 Kawashiro: ok
16:49 Demon_Akuma: Yea that looks good for that diff
16:49 Kawashiro: jusr normal?
16:49 Kawashiro: *just
16:49 Demon_Akuma: Not too hard/fast and not too far apart
16:49 Kawashiro: ok
16:50 Kawashiro: i wanted opinions like it
16:51 Demon_Akuma: I can't play that lol but looks good haha
16:51 Kawashiro: thanks
16:51 Kawashiro: btw
16:51 Kawashiro: do u think it needs other diff between novice and advanced?
16:52 Demon_Akuma: Defeinately looks and feels like other 3.29* or similar * maps I have played and nah, those one are fine, some people do like more but only do it if you are willing to do another diff cuz they're not really needed
16:53 Demon_Akuma: Can't play it atm lol
16:53 Kawashiro: anyway
16:53 Kawashiro: thanks for ur help
16:53 Kawashiro: ;3
16:54 Demon_Akuma: Np :)

Really thanks for your help, Demon_Akuma! <3

And I'm waiting Plaudible now.

toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-10-29T02:58:41+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
toybot's HEAVENLY

00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Not really liking how the rhythm shifts from long repeat into 1/3 streams to 1/3 sliders. I think you can introduce the rhythm density shift a bit better here. Right now its randomly going from holds to 1/3 clicks to 1/3 sliders etc... // 00:10:933 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - are you talking about this one? the other shift is made clear by repeat rhythm imo, and the one i pointed seems fine due to different ds
00:36:244 (6) - 1/4 repeat instead?
00:51:478 (1,2,3) - This just feels really simple for the drums in the bg. Make it more dense maybe? // i like the focus on the melody here imo,
its a nice contrast tot he rest of the map
01:45:734 (1,2,3,1) - 2/3/4 feel way too close together xP

thx!! https://0paste.com/16892.txt

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-10-30T07:00:04+00:00

can i make a map out of this just to put in description xd

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-06T02:19:32+00:00

xLolicore- wrote:
can i make a map out of this just to put in description xd

maybe ok

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-08T15:30:02+00:00

@Monstrata : All issues of Insane was fixed by me because of his request and Plauddble said It seems no problem so call you back

Plaudible wrote:
was about to mod, but looks lilke monstrata was gonna check first? should i let him bubble then qualify

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-11-09T00:00:23+00:00

Would you happen to have metadata source somewhere? Please link me if you do. Will recheck tonight~

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-09T00:16:37+00:00

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/574578

Maybe It'll be fine

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Monstrata 2017-11-15T05:34:41+00:00

Bubbled!

Plaudible

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Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-11-26T20:04:53+00:00

sry i did forget orz

kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~

BASIC

00:43:041 (1,2,1) - Way too confusing for new players, please avoid using stacks
01:11:868 (1,2,3) - The 1/1 slider here's kinda awkward, what about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/yu2vr/0e11d363f5.jpg
01:23:821 (6,1) - Same thing about stacks, would suggest avoiding as time distance equality is thrown off and is a little too much for newer players.
01:59:209 (1) - Someone who plays at this level doesn't have the reaction time to properly play this spinner, it's way too short and extremely unfair imo, please consider a slider instead.

NOVICE

00:05:308 (3,1) -, 00:38:822 (5,1) - blanket better pls
I'd still argue that tiime distance equality be kept for this diff too, it's more something you see in a hard to stack 1/1s. 00:32:728 (4,1) - ,
No other complaints here, nice diff

ADVANCED

01:24:759 (1) - Why's the rhythm choice so vastly different from 00:11:871 (1) - ? They're pretty identical, maybe matching them a little more would be more appropriate.
01:53:350 (1) - This ending section is actually a huge diff spike in this map, I suggest making the rhythm less dense here to better suit the less intense nature of the music, perhaps more reverse sliders and such.

right now, the spread is a little poor between the exhaust and maximum diffs. talked w/ kawa and i'd like to suggest nerfing the maximum perhaps to make the spread have less of a gap. this should be fairly easy, since there is a lot of 1/2 spam at times (unnecessarily maybe, note the slow parts like ending) in the map or streams that could be simplified. if we could get it down to ~5.3 that would be a lot more suitable imo

will mod top 3 diffs once we get this figured out

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-26T20:36:34+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
sry i did forget orz

kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~

BASIC
00:43:041 (1,2,1) - Way too confusing for new players, please avoid using stacks
01:11:868 (1,2,3) - The 1/1 slider here's kinda awkward, what about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/yu2vr/0e11d363f5.jpg
01:23:821 (6,1) - Same thing about stacks, would suggest avoiding as time distance equality is thrown off and is a little too much for newer players.
01:59:209 (1) - Someone who plays at this level doesn't have the reaction time to properly play this spinner, it's way too short and extremely unfair imo, please consider a slider instead.

NOVICE
00:05:308 (3,1) -, 00:38:822 (5,1) - blanket better pls - Already perfect imo
I'd still argue that tiime distance equality be kept for this diff too, it's more something you see in a hard to stack 1/1s. 00:32:728 (4,1) - ,
No other complaints here, nice diff

ADVANCED
01:24:759 (1) - Why's the rhythm choice so vastly different from 00:11:871 (1) - ? They're pretty identical, maybe matching them a little more would be more appropriate. - I think 01:24:759 (1,2,3) - that pattern is not fit at 00:11:871 (1) - here because it is just intro of the song and long break follows but that pattern is too strong. these difference is by considering the tension of all patterns and song
01:53:350 (1) - This ending section is actually a huge diff spike in this map, I suggest making the rhythm less dense here to better suit the less intense nature of the music, perhaps more reverse sliders and such.

right now, the spread is a little poor between the exhaust and maximum diffs. talked w/ kawa and i'd like to suggest nerfing the maximum perhaps to make the spread have less of a gap. this should be fairly easy, since there is a lot of 1/2 spam at times (unnecessarily maybe, note the slow parts like ending) in the map or streams that could be simplified. if we could get it down to ~5.3 that would be a lot more suitable imo

will mod top 3 diffs once we get this figured out

no comment = fixed

Thanks!

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-11-27T11:18:30+00:00

Code

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TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
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ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
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Reduced most of the 1/2 spam. Don't think I can nerf any further than this

Keeping some parts like 01:40:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - as it is rather natural to play or burst at 256bpm for the players that are comfortable with playing maps at this bpm.

Kawashiro

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Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-27T15:07:02+00:00

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Plaudible

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Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-12-03T20:50:40+00:00

Yuria's EXHAUST

00:15:152 (1) - The rhythm gets a lot more intense here, given the difficulty though rhythm density is probably not the way to make this play more intensely. I suggest perhaps increasing spacing a little instead, or some sort of patterning to distinguish this from the last few measures.
Nothing else here, love your diff a lot it's fantastic!

-Scarlet-'s MAXIMUM

I still want to nerf this diff a tad more if possible for better spread. There's only 5 major points that make the difficulty go from 5.23 --> 5.57. When I deleted these 5, the difficulty went to 5.23. Obviously deleting is not an option, but since these make ridiculously hard diffspikes that add 0.3 to it, perhaps reworking them would get this down to at least 5.35. These are the following:
01:40:695 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 01:58:272 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These are really long streams for an extra, considering the difficulty below had absolutely nothing like this, I think limiting yourself to 5 note stream bursts across the diff would be better for spread. Would you consider a 1/4 repeat kickslider into a 5 burst? This already drops this down to 5.52.
01:44:914 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - and 01:46:788 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - and 01:48:664 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - are the next three. They can be justified based off of 01:15:384 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - , but since they're consecutive it makes them really, really difficult since you're mashing out so many 256 bpm 1/2 patterns. Perhaps, instead, you could make the first two instances of these rhythms at 01:44:914 - and 01:46:788 - have a slider or something to make the rhythm a little less dense, then make the finale be the strongest at 01:48:664 (1) - . If this isn't an option for you, then please consider some spacing nerfs which would also be a drastic improvement. (Note, even the top difficulty has a much easier interpretation of this.)
Onto a regular mod from start to end now regardless of nerfing:
00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I wanna make a case against how you mapped this, in the map this is reasonably close to 00:05:308 (1,2,3,4) - where you space 1/2 by 1.00x, but here it jumps to 1.5x for the 1/3 and looks almost identical. IMO it needs some more clear distinguishing factor that makes it clear this is 1/3, like condensed spacing or a NC every 3 notes, etc. just something to make it clear that the rhythm changes here. Not to mention, it's quite a bit harder than the top diff's rendition of this.
00:56:399 (3,4,5,1) - Just looks a little poor aesthetically, blanketing 00:55:931 (2) - better could be a fix.
01:17:259 (1) - Break after spinner?
01:28:509 (1) - Can definitely space things more in this section based on 00:15:152 (1) -
01:39:289 (1,2,1,2,1) - Spacing here is really, really small for what it deserves imo. This part of the song is a strong buildup, and the spacing kinda takes away from that feeling, especially since you lead in with such strong spacing at 01:38:820 (6,7) - . Since there's a lot of leniency given that there's sliders here don't be afraid to make some jumps.

toybot's HEAVENLY

Not much to say here, really nice! I want to bring up perhaps making 01:48:664 (1,2,3,4,5) - more dense, I know it's right after a 256 bpm stream but 01:46:788 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sets a precursor for this to be really difficult, giving a nice finale with some intense jumps would be cool

Call me back after, should be set for quali!!

toybot

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Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-12-04T02:48:28+00:00

@plaudible i really like the pattern though, and i think it fits nice in sorta dying down to the outro

@scarlet btw 02:00:029 (1) - is 1/3

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-12-05T02:44:51+00:00

@Plaudible Increased spacing, thanks!

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[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-12-06T15:23:36+00:00

Hmm, alright. Fixed everything mentioned by Plausible.
Hopefully there's no problem with the spread now

Thanks for the mod!

Code

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Title:HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~
TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
Artist:kamome sano Electric Orchestra
ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
Creator:Kawashiro
Version:[ -Scarlet- ]'s MAXIMUM
Source:SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN
Tags:The 6th KAC Original Song Contest Winner Near Noah Welcome to Heaven sdvx 4 Yuria [ -Scarlet- ] toybot
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