kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e Youkoso~ · forum

Kawashiro

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-04T14:09:18+00:00

Revia wrote:
HEAVENTLY
01:27:805 (8,1,2) - 이부분 새로운 리듬이 01:27:923 - 여기서부터 시작하는데 뉴콤보가 01:28:040 (1) - 여기에 박혀있어서 그런지 들으면서 많이 어색했어요. 여기 박자를 https://puu.sh/wzIDP/e2b655e0d2.png 이런식으로 바꾸는건 어떨까요? - 앞의 01:26:165 (1,2) - 이 둘과 뒤의 01:29:915 (9,10) - 이 둘 사이의 일관성을 위해서 일부러 이정도 이레귤러는 무시하고 싶었어요. 그리고 시작은 분명 집어주신데가 맞지만 01:28:040 (1,2) - 이 둘의 시작지점에도 괜찮은 소리가 있기 때문에 지금 이대로도 문제 없다고 생각해요

01:56:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 이부분 노랫소리가 점점 커지는데 반영이 안된 것 같아요. 오히려 01:58:389 (7,8) - 이부분은 더 간격이 줄어들엇네요.

갓맵 ㄷㄷ

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Hi
BASIC
01:11:868 (1) - instead this make 1 beat slider ended in this circle - No, I think new melody is start at 01:11:868 (1) - here so i want to put clickable object
01:58:038 (4,1) - there would be some distance between these sliders - Hmm, I'll think more about this
NOVICE
01:06:009 (5) - make this one beat shorter and in break get circle
01:16:790 (5) - end this on green line - same as Heavenly, i just follow electric organ sound.
ADVANCED
Good map! I can't find somethink bad
HEAVENTLY
01:17:141 (8) - instead this make half-beat slider - No, I just follow electric organ sound. this sound starts at 8 and finish at 01:17:727 -
here. but i want to put break so i didn't map 01:17:259 - here

[lucky:1337]Good Luck![/lucky:1337]

No comment = fix

Thanks

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2017-07-05T15:31:22+00:00

Hey! Modding by PM request ^^
Only modding the top two diffs as asked for (but also general stuff about the set)

[General]

Even if Yuria's Exhaust has some patterns that resemble far 1/2 jumps like in toybot's diff, a diff inbetween those two diffs would feel more appropriate looking at the SR especially. Consider adding a 5* diff too (And yes, toybot's diff was supposed to even out the spread but it still seems kinda uneven)
Just a suggestion but maybe AR 7 or so on ADVANCED to make the AR spread more linear?

[toybot's MAXIMUM]

I am in love this diff tbh, so pretty much only minor stuff xd
00:28:510 (4,2) - Fix the stack pls thanks
00:38:471 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Looking closer, I can see that you decreased spacing for every hitcircle but it isn't really conveyed to the player that much imo, maybe increase the spacing for 00:38:353 (2,1) - and then go lower spacing for the following patterns by DS x0.2?
01:02:610 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Also, since you do this for so many of the 1-2s, what about decreasing the spacing gradually?

[HEAVENLY]

Why not 'HE4VENLY' for the diff name
00:11:402 - This seems to be 1/4 is you listen to it at 25%, please snap these to 1/4 and not to 1/3 ^^
00:11:871 - to 00:15:152 - Imo, the 1/2 sliders don't really fit here, because:
1. There aren't even sounds on the slider ends
2. You also use 1/2 sliders for this part 00:15:152 - which actually has a sound on every tail, so using the same rhythm for two different parts of the song feels a bit weird
3. It would help to emphasize the flute more if you remove the slider ends because that makes the hitcircles stand out more

So yeah, I feel like those sliders should be turned into hitcircles, consider reworking that part a bit
00:13:980 (4,8) - 00:15:620 (4,8) - I'm not sure if this is actually rankable:

Ranking Criteria wrote:
When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.
And since these two sliders are overlapping each other before the first one fully fades out, this could be considered unrankable. Might wanna ask for opinions on this though
00:27:339 - This part seems to have pretty inconsistent NCing or there might be a different concept used, why aren't the downbeats NCed like you did in the previous part (or maybe even only every two downbeats)? (The NCs would be 00:27:339 (5) - 00:28:745 (2) - 00:29:448 (4) - 00:30:151 (6) - 00:30:854 (2) - )
00:32:318 - I don't really like how this sound is skipped, maybe a rhythm like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8516546 could work?
00:33:197 - Up to you I guess, but by using the soft-hitclaps for hitsounding in this part, you aren't able to hitsound the kicks which could work better in this intense part imo.
00:40:580 (3,3) - Hmm, I find it weird that you prioritize NCing 00:39:760 (1,1) - rather than the mentioned ones, might wanna NC those instead
00:43:861 (2) - What about a drum-hitclap on the head and a drum-hitwhistle on the tail?
01:04:134 (1,2) - 01:06:009 (1,2,3) - 01:13:509 (1,2,3) - These patterns could have the same rhythm imo, there isn't really any consistent pattern used here and I don't see why they are so different in the song to make use of different rhythm
I don't think this will be too dramatic but I find it weird that the first kiai has bigger overall spacing than the second kiai. Compare for example 01:05:305 (7,8,9) - and 01:38:585 (6,7,8) - | 01:14:212 (5,6) - and 01:43:507 (3,4,5) - . This might be because of the differences in rhythm too, so you might want to consider making things more consistent if you like.
01:59:209 (1,1,2) - Do these patterns really need such large spacing? It will make the player break unnecessarily since the song isn't exactly too strong here imo. Rotating 02:00:029 (1,2) - by 90° (clockwise) and stacking it with 01:58:858 (9) - looks better tbh

Ok, I'm done now, looks like a nice set overall.
GL!

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-07-05T16:33:12+00:00

Your message is too short.

Bluekrait

202 posts

Joined March 2014

Bluekrait 2017-07-06T10:53:46+00:00

Follow-up Mod for toybot
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[toybot's MAXIMUM]

00:04:839 (3,4,5,6,1) - 00:05:777 (3,4,5,1) - Might I recommend increasing stream SV for these streams and/or decreaseing stream SV for 00:08:589 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 00:10:464 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) Even though you prefaced each of those sections with a long reverse, I felt it wasn't enough.
00:16:323 (2) - Ran out of room? hehe
01:04:134 (1) - 01:11:516 (4) - Kiai?
01:11:868 (1) - 01:16:790 (1) - ^
01:35:773 (1) - 01:50:421 (1) - ^

UnLock- you need another difficulty (5.xx stars) to bridge the gap between toybot's Maximum (6.03 stars) and Yuria's Exhaust (4.33 stars). Star difficulty ain't lying either, Yuria's has no streams, then jumping to toybot, you suddenly have long 256 bpm streams.

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-06T10:56:26+00:00

I know that gap is too big between MXM and EXH. I'm searching another GD now. Actually I really don't want to map this song again. XD

Kawashiro

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Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-06T18:26:05+00:00

Hmm. I also can't believe my decide, I want to try to remake Heavenly diff because of just 1 reason. At first, I thought I perfectly understood of this song because I heard this song over than 400 times. But that's wrong. By the toybot's diff and sdvx playing movie, i've found too many missed sounds in whole part of my diff. ofc i want to rank this, but its not with shit map. idk how long this will take, I'll make perfect beatmap.

@_DT3 : I'm sry. Plz call me when you need modding, GD or any help! ><

~~왜케 놓친 박자도 많고 맵도 구데기같지... 이번엔 더 집중해서 제대로 만들어봄 ㅇㅇ 이게 다 노래가 구데기같아서 그런거임~~

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-07-08T18:28:52+00:00

헐? 묵혀둔 맥시멈이 있었어...그것도 네가 삭제했던...

Blan_C

306 posts

Joined March 2016

Blan_C 2017-07-09T10:15:16+00:00

Hello, NM from my queue

ADVANCED

00:04:371 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I think rythm here is wrongly done. I dont know whats the point of placing these 1/1 00:04:605 (2,7,3,6) - it is not following the piano at all as there are sounds on red ticks. That being said these 1/1 are misplaced. Try to follow piano as you did 00:05:074 (4,5,6) - to not break rythm that drastically
00:11:871 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Every strong beat on red tick is skipped. Why? You can use sliders like 00:31:557 (1,2,3,4) - to make reverse on these sounds. Imo for now its terrible, please fix that!
01:37:414 - You skipped important sound here, 01:37:296 (1) - is missplaced. Just do it like that:

Yuria's EXHAUST

00:40:580 (3,3) - Please put NC's on these.

Good luck!

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-07-11T04:54:06+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
[Yuria's EXHAUST]
00:54:524 (9,9) - Consider NC'ing these and messing with SV to mirror 00:48:197 (1,1) SV was not added, fixed NC'ing

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Yuria's EXHAUST
00:16:909 (11) - too big combo
01:59:990 (2) - i think two arrows more i think it's fine. because the sound ends at 02:00:146 -

Blan_C wrote:
Yuria's EXHAUST
00:40:580 (3,3) - Please put NC's on these.

i fixed all NC'ing.

Thanks all

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Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-16T15:01:31+00:00

give up

i realized that i'm not good at mapping while try to make the hardest diff

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-07-18T19:03:58+00:00

please don't throw out your mapset with GDs anymore

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-07-18T21:12:24+00:00

Enon wrote:
please don't throw out your mapset with GDs anymore

I never threw out this set. Just five up to make the hardest diff

Left

2,156 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2017-08-01T05:55:36+00:00

lick toybot

Left

2,156 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2017-08-01T06:05:52+00:00

[toybot]
00:07:066 (1,2) - can make it not touching each other
01:41:515 (2,3,4) - stack
00:46:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - loved this idea
01:10:989 - i hope you map this sound a bit strong but only 01:11:106 - sth here was kinda dizzy

actually the only truth of this map.jpg

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-08-16T08:03:07+00:00

it isn't dead

just waiting gd

Jemzuu

Beatmap Nominator

600 posts

Joined February 2016

Jemzuu 2017-08-24T17:10:53+00:00

#modreqs

[toybot]
00:41:400 (1,3) - blancc
00:42:221 (1,2) - ^
00:46:556 (2) - ctrl g perhaps movement feels better here imo
00:51:009 (2) - lower this slider a bit pls or idk if this is intended
01:00:266 (2,3) - overlap?
01:17:259 (1) - silence this slider pls
01:37:882 (2) - why does this slider have a read dot while 01:38:117 (3) - doesn't

[Yuria]
00:59:212 (3,2) - fix blank
01:58:858 (4) - idk maybe placae this inside the slider

such perfect mapping, didn't find anything on the rest of the diffs gj
ranked soon(tm)

Stormiverse

230 posts

Joined July 2016

Stormiverse 2017-08-31T16:18:49+00:00

NM from my Q~
Sorry for being kinda slow with these, school stuff happening.

I'm not familiar with your mapping style, so I won't be able to make quality mod. Sorry for that.
(I'm also not good with high BPM stuff too. Forgot to add that to the guidelines. Sorry!)
(I won't be able to finish your other request as well. Sorry.)

[BASIC]

01:58:038 (4,1) - These two should't be stacked as you've used stacking only for 1-measure long gap, like at 00:43:041 (1,2,1) - , or 01:23:821 (6,1) - . Stacking them here would cause inconsistency.

I'll shoot a Star instead, because that was the only thing I was able to find in this set.
Happy Ranking!
(no kudos for this lousy thing I call a mod, please)

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-01T07:51:38+00:00

Stormiverse wrote:
NM from my Q~
Sorry for being kinda slow with these, school stuff happening.

I'm not familiar with your mapping style, so I won't be able to make quality mod. Sorry for that.
(I'm also not good with high BPM stuff too. Forgot to add that to the guidelines. Sorry!)
(I won't be able to finish your other request as well. Sorry.)

[BASIC]
01:58:038 (4,1) - These two should't be stacked as you've used stacking only for 1-measure long gap, like at 00:43:041 (1,2,1) - , or 01:23:821 (6,1) - . Stacking them here would cause inconsistency.

I'll shoot a Star instead, because that was the only thing I was able to find in this set.
Happy Ranking!
(no kudos for this lousy thing I call a mod, please)

Fixed, Thanks!

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-12T13:46:06+00:00

yo, sorry for the delay @@

GD done!

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Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2017-09-15T00:13:45+00:00

hi scarlet

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-15T14:31:30+00:00

Enon wrote:
hi scarlet

hi Enon im a big fan

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2017-09-16T15:47:57+00:00

베이직 좀 확인해봤는데

01:59:209 - 스피너 길이가 너무 짧은 거 아닐까 의심이 되는데 언랭의심좀 해봐야 할 것 같수다. 노티브의 경우 슬라이더로 마무리되어 있는데 음...

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-17T00:16:59+00:00

Luel Roseline wrote:
01:59:209 - 스피너 길이가 너무 짧은 거 아닐까 의심이 되는데 언랭의심좀 해봐야 할 것 같수다. 노티브의 경우 슬라이더로 마무리되어 있는데 음...

Ranking Criteria wrote:
Avoid spinners less than 4 beats. Players need time to recognize that they have to begin spinning.

이지의 가이드라인 기준으로 4박자 이하의 스피너는 피하라고 써있는데 이건 5박이라 문제없음

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-09-17T06:10:51+00:00

did all for _dt3

Bluekrait wrote:
Follow-up Mod for toybot
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[toybot's MAXIMUM]
00:04:839 (3,4,5,6,1) - 00:05:777 (3,4,5,1) - Might I recommend increasing stream SV for these streams and/or decreaseing stream SV for 00:08:589 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 00:10:464 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) Even though you prefaced each of those sections with a long reverse, I felt it wasn't enough. // eh, i think the sliders establish the beat well enough, and its meant to be slightly confusing with how i made the velocities
00:16:323 (2) - Ran out of room? hehe // ye
01:04:134 (1) - 01:11:516 (4) - Kiai?
01:11:868 (1) - 01:16:790 (1) - ^
01:35:773 (1) - 01:50:421 (1) - ^
UnLock- you need another difficulty (5.xx stars) to bridge the gap between toybot's Maximum (6.03 stars) and Yuria's Exhaust (4.33 stars). Star difficulty ain't lying either, Yuria's has no streams, then jumping to toybot, you suddenly have long 256 bpm streams.

Left wrote:
[toybot]
00:07:066 (1,2) - can make it not touching each other
01:41:515 (2,3,4) - stack
00:46:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - loved this idea
01:10:989 - i hope you map this sound a bit strong but only 01:11:106 - sth here was kinda dizzy // eh i dont want to overdo it too much

actually the only truth of this map.jpg // w

AJamez wrote:
#modreqs

[toybot]
00:41:400 (1,3) - blancc // not intentional
00:42:221 (1,2) - ^ // ??????
00:46:556 (2) - ctrl g perhaps movement feels better here imo
00:51:009 (2) - lower this slider a bit pls or idk if this is intended
01:00:266 (2,3) - overlap?
01:17:259 (1) - silence this slider pls
01:37:882 (2) - why does this slider have a read dot while 01:38:117 (3) - doesn't

such perfect mapping, didn't find anything on the rest of the diffs gj
ranked soon(tm)

thanks! https://0paste.com/15344.txt

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-09-17T12:16:44+00:00

Yea, I think the spinner should be fine. If the issue still persist I can always make some adjustment there.
Oh yea, remember to add my name into the tags

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-17T12:18:44+00:00

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:
Yea, I think the spinner should be fine. If the issue still persist I can always make some adjustment there.
Oh yea, remember to add my name into the tags

ok ><

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-09-18T03:35:28+00:00

Updated

pewdekz

330 posts

Joined January 2015

pewdekz 2017-09-18T09:21:28+00:00

LOVE THIS SONG

I FEEL THE BACKGROUND DOESN'T FIT IT THOUGH (BUT THAT'S MY OPINION)

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2017-09-21T18:04:29+00:00

AJamez wrote:
[Yuria]
00:59:212 (3,2) - fix blank i think it's good now.
01:58:858 (4) - idk maybe placae this inside the slider i think it's better to stack.

늦어서 죄송합니다. 사소한것 몇가지 수정했습니다.

code

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
Artist:kamome sano Electric Orchestra
ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
Creator:Kawashiro
Version:Yuria's EXHAUST
Source:SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN
Tags:The 6th KAC Original Song Contest Winner Near Noah Welcome to Heaven sdvx 4 Yuria [ -Scarlet- ] toybot
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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-10-19T02:28:13+00:00

toybot's HEAVENLY

00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Not really liking how the rhythm shifts from long repeat into 1/3 streams to 1/3 sliders. I think you can introduce the rhythm density shift a bit better here. Right now its randomly going from holds to 1/3 clicks to 1/3 sliders etc...
00:36:244 (6) - 1/4 repeat instead?
00:51:478 (1,2,3) - This just feels really simple for the drums in the bg. Make it more dense maybe?
01:45:734 (1,2,3,1) - 2/3/4 feel way too close together xP

Scarlet's MAXIMUM

00:28:042 (3,2) - Any way you can get thsi arrangement to look a bit neater?

~

00:40:580 (1,1) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical. They look so close but its a bit different so it throws ppl offx xP
01:00:266 (2) - Could be more symmetrical/
01:11:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern just doesn't look that well structured compared to your other stuff.
01:45:148 (3,4,1,2) - This linear transition is just really poor imo. You're using 180 degree movements as well as a very small decrease in spacing. I'd really do with a diferent pattern here cuz you really kill the flow xP.

Yuria EXHAUST

00:41:400 (1,1) - Kinda off on the head

~

01:02:962 (5) - This should be NC'ed for consistency with how you NC earlier patterns. See: 00:15:152 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 00:31:557 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

ADVANCED

00:05:777 (7,2) - xd can you not overlap thanks.

looks good.

NOVICE / BASIC

Look good too.

[]

There's kind of a diff-gap between NOVICE and ADVANCED since ADVANCED is mapped with a lot of 1/2 rhythm in mind. I would consider adding a difficulty in between that uses both 1/2 and 1/1 rhythm evenly. The difficulties currently look good as they are so I wouldn't recommend making more changes. If you disagree feel free to get two other modders' opinions (one preferably being another BN).

You can call me back once this concern has been clearned up (and other mods have been replied to).

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-10-19T06:45:40+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Scarlet's MAXIMUM

00:28:042 (3,2) - Any way you can get thsi arrangement to look a bit neater?
~
Right, didn't realize the overlap before

00:40:580 (1,1) - Would be cool if they were symmetrical. They look so close but its a bit different so it throws ppl offx xP
Decided not to make it symmetrical >.>

01:00:266 (2) - Could be more symmetrical/
Hopefully it's better now

01:11:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern just doesn't look that well structured compared to your other stuff.
Made it consistent

01:45:148 (3,4,1,2) - This linear transition is just really poor imo. You're using 180 degree movements as well as a very small decrease in spacing. I'd really do with a diferent pattern here cuz you really kill the flow xP.
Kinda, restructured the pattern here

Thanks Mr Monstrata

Made few tweaks on my own, nothing major

Code

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TitleUnicode:HE4VEN ～天国へようこそ～
Artist:kamome sano Electric Orchestra
ArtistUnicode:カモメサノエレクトリックオーケストラ
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I like the old bg better :c

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-10-28T08:04:16+00:00

overlap fixed

And about difficulty spread, I think it already fine. of course i thought Nov-Adv has too big difficulty gaps but Bas-Nov also. Basic has pretty slow sv and all of beats have more than 2/1 gaps. And Novice, It contains "weird" beats like 00:59:915 (1,2) - 3/2 gaps and many circles. this makes noobs who familiar with 1/1 to confuse beats.

Anyway these diffs are for noobs so I'd asked about this issue to an random Normal-diff players. (#828,328) He can playes almost Normal diff and some slow Hard diff.

His comment

16:43 *Kawashiro is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1360081 kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~]
16:43 Kawashiro: lol
16:44 Kawashiro: play Basic, Novice, Advanced diffs
16:44 Kawashiro: and tell me how do u think about difficulty of them
16:44 Demon_Akuma: Wanna spec me play them?
16:44 Kawashiro: yea
16:44 Kawashiro: i'll spec u
16:47 Demon_Akuma: That was slow xD
16:47 Kawashiro: ok
16:49 Demon_Akuma: Yea that looks good for that diff
16:49 Kawashiro: jusr normal?
16:49 Kawashiro: *just
16:49 Demon_Akuma: Not too hard/fast and not too far apart
16:49 Kawashiro: ok
16:50 Kawashiro: i wanted opinions like it
16:51 Demon_Akuma: I can't play that lol but looks good haha
16:51 Kawashiro: thanks
16:51 Kawashiro: btw
16:51 Kawashiro: do u think it needs other diff between novice and advanced?
16:52 Demon_Akuma: Defeinately looks and feels like other 3.29* or similar * maps I have played and nah, those one are fine, some people do like more but only do it if you are willing to do another diff cuz they're not really needed
16:53 Demon_Akuma: Can't play it atm lol
16:53 Kawashiro: anyway
16:53 Kawashiro: thanks for ur help
16:53 Kawashiro: ;3
16:54 Demon_Akuma: Np :)

Really thanks for your help, Demon_Akuma! <3

And I'm waiting Plaudible now.

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2017-10-29T02:58:41+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
toybot's HEAVENLY

00:08:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Not really liking how the rhythm shifts from long repeat into 1/3 streams to 1/3 sliders. I think you can introduce the rhythm density shift a bit better here. Right now its randomly going from holds to 1/3 clicks to 1/3 sliders etc... // 00:10:933 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - are you talking about this one? the other shift is made clear by repeat rhythm imo, and the one i pointed seems fine due to different ds
00:36:244 (6) - 1/4 repeat instead?
00:51:478 (1,2,3) - This just feels really simple for the drums in the bg. Make it more dense maybe? // i like the focus on the melody here imo,
its a nice contrast tot he rest of the map
01:45:734 (1,2,3,1) - 2/3/4 feel way too close together xP

thx!! https://0paste.com/16892.txt

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2017-10-30T07:00:04+00:00

can i make a map out of this just to put in description xd

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Kawashiro 2017-11-06T02:19:32+00:00

xLolicore- wrote:
can i make a map out of this just to put in description xd

maybe ok

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-11-08T15:30:02+00:00

@Monstrata : All issues of Insane was fixed by me because of his request and Plauddble said It seems no problem so call you back

Plaudible wrote:
was about to mod, but looks lilke monstrata was gonna check first? should i let him bubble then qualify

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-11-09T00:00:23+00:00

Would you happen to have metadata source somewhere? Please link me if you do. Will recheck tonight~

Kawashiro

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Kawashiro 2017-11-09T00:16:37+00:00

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/574578

Maybe It'll be fine

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-11-15T05:34:41+00:00

Bubbled!

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-11-26T20:04:53+00:00

sry i did forget orz

kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e youkoso~

BASIC

00:43:041 (1,2,1) - Way too confusing for new players, please avoid using stacks
01:11:868 (1,2,3) - The 1/1 slider here's kinda awkward, what about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/yu2vr/0e11d363f5.jpg
01:23:821 (6,1) - Same thing about stacks, would suggest avoiding as time distance equality is thrown off and is a little too much for newer players.
01:59:209 (1) - Someone who plays at this level doesn't have the reaction time to properly play this spinner, it's way too short and extremely unfair imo, please consider a slider instead.

NOVICE

00:05:308 (3,1) -, 00:38:822 (5,1) - blanket better pls
I'd still argue that tiime distance equality be kept for this diff too, it's more something you see in a hard to stack 1/1s. 00:32:728 (4,1) - ,
No other complaints here, nice diff

ADVANCED

01:24:759 (1) - Why's the rhythm choice so vastly different from 00:11:871 (1) - ? They're pretty identical, maybe matching them a little more would be more appropriate.
01:53:350 (1) - This ending section is actually a huge diff spike in this map, I suggest making the rhythm less dense here to better suit the less intense nature of the music, perhaps more reverse sliders and such.

right now, the spread is a little poor between the exhaust and maximum diffs. talked w/ kawa and i'd like to suggest nerfing the maximum perhaps to make the spread have less of a gap. this should be fairly easy, since there is a lot of 1/2 spam at times (unnecessarily maybe, note the slow parts like ending) in the map or streams that could be simplified. if we could get it down to ~5.3 that would be a lot more suitable imo

will mod top 3 diffs once we get this figured out

kamome sano Electric Orchestra - HE4VEN ~Tengoku e Youkoso~

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