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thank GOD this is modding v1 ok

played the mania diff, it's about what i would expect from an s3rl 4k chart, nothing out of ordinary, standard charting that's not my cup of tea, but it is what it is.

sightread cold hands no prior maps played, this is ss bait basically
i do have slight complaints though

first of all raise the hs volume by 5-10%, it's borderline acceptable now but better have it a bit higher for safety

00:25:344 (25344|0,25498|1,25652|2,25806|3) - lol at stairs going up while pitch is going down, following too

00:28:421 - i would rather do something like this to express the pitch going up down up down with gradual decrese:


01:20:114 (80114|3,80267|3,80421|3,80575|3) - weird 4 note jack, the pause is longer between kicks but should you really extend the jack for that reason? i would just move the first note to 3 personally

01:24:729 (84729|2,84883|1,85037|3,85037|0) - and then you suddenly take all of the intensity and rigidity of the patterning to a 1/2 JS basically, it really feels like the hardest part of the map (at least until the longer 1/4 patterns) are the jacks in the first half of the build up and I don't like it personally ESPECIALLY since from this point onwards you have a constant 1/4 and even faster at times rhythm that you can utilize, but that would require having a higher difficulty admittedly

01:32:729 - DoubleTime Farm Pattern (TM)
i really feel like you could just use a diffrent pattern that's not a one directional implied roll, anything that's not so straight forward would feel like a proper end of the build up tbh

now the choruses
idk i don't really like how painfully simple they are, you are just putting kinda short LNs for the main background synths and that's ok I guess but like, the intro has harder patterning? ever since the fourth note of the map you had actually harder patterns than in the chorus except chorus is slightly harder to acc, for this kind of a song denser glut/jumpjack oriented patterning would be way more fun to play

02:54:883 - this is the only time you do SVs like that and it feels really off having played the map up until this point without knowing about them, as literally nothing in the map hints at there being any jump SVs and also the SV itself being quite strong. this is actually the thing that annoyed me the most about this map btw, I REALLY suggest either removing the SV or just making it less intense so it's easier to sightread, ESPECIALLY in a map that simple

ok that'd be about it, i rate the map s3/rl

call me back
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Kamikaze wrote:

now the choruses
idk i don't really like how painfully simple they are, you are just putting kinda short LNs for the main background synths and that's ok I guess but like, the intro has harder patterning? ever since the fourth note of the map you had actually harder patterns than in the chorus except chorus is slightly harder to acc, for this kind of a song denser glut/jumpjack oriented patterning would be way more fun to play
Thanks for mods first.

I don't quite get what the patterns you want. I know you wanna get harder pattern, but I am not familiar with terms like glut, so wonder if you can make a small portion and screenshot to me?

Also, all mods are for MX right?
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yeah all for MX

glut patterning is basically chordjack oriented patterning so heavier jacks with jumps, as an example I'll show some charts with usage of those to give you sort of an example of what I mean by that entire point
Evening's Drop That Ghettoblaster
Zyph's TMQ
Eze's Frozen World, this one hits the closest to how I would see the choruses here density and patterning wise, of course with respectable changes because layering of a diffrent song

poke me on discord or sth if you have questions, i would prefer to talk about it rather than post here if needed
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Kamikaze wrote:

thank GOD this is modding v1 ok

played the mania diff, it's about what i would expect from an s3rl 4k chart, nothing out of ordinary, standard charting that's not my cup of tea, but it is what it is.

sightread cold hands no prior maps played, this is ss bait basically
i do have slight complaints though

first of all raise the hs volume by 5-10%, it's borderline acceptable now but better have it a bit higher for safety Make overall hitsounds to be 50%, quite audible imo then.


00:25:344 (25344|0,25498|1,25652|2,25806|3) - lol at stairs going up while pitch is going down, following too Rearranged

00:28:421 - i would rather do something like this to express the pitch going up down up down with gradual decrese:
Fixed

01:20:114 (80114|3,80267|3,80421|3,80575|3) - weird 4 note jack, the pause is longer between kicks but should you really extend the jack for that reason? i would just move the first note to 3 personally Fixed

01:24:729 (84729|2,84883|1,85037|3,85037|0) - and then you suddenly take all of the intensity and rigidity of the patterning to a 1/2 JS basically, it really feels like the hardest part of the map (at least until the longer 1/4 patterns) are the jacks in the first half of the build up and I don't like it personally ESPECIALLY since from this point onwards you have a constant 1/4 and even faster at times rhythm that you can utilize, but that would require having a higher difficulty admittedly Even though this is the next phase of the buildup, it does not necessarily mean that the next part should be definitely harder smh. However, I still added a few double notes to increase the difficulty and fixed the hitsounds here in both diffs.

01:32:729 - DoubleTime Farm Pattern (TM)
i really feel like you could just use a diffrent pattern that's not a one directional implied roll, anything that's not so straight forward would feel like a proper end of the build up tbh Rearranged

now the choruses
idk i don't really like how painfully simple they are, you are just putting kinda short LNs for the main background synths and that's ok I guess but like, the intro has harder patterning? ever since the fourth note of the map you had actually harder patterns than in the chorus except chorus is slightly harder to acc, for this kind of a song denser glut/jumpjack oriented patterning would be way more fun to play

How do I say. I am more into technical side so you can easily see my ideas throughout the chorus, I don't wanna add more notes tbh. But if you mean some rearrangements can be executed to increase the overall difficulty in the chorus and if they fit music as well, I would like to give it a try. Maybe find a time to talk on discord specifically about that :3

02:54:883 - this is the only time you do SVs like that and it feels really off having played the map up until this point without knowing about them, as literally nothing in the map hints at there being any jump SVs and also the SV itself being quite strong. this is actually the thing that annoyed me the most about this map btw, I REALLY suggest either removing the SV or just making it less intense so it's easier to sightread, ESPECIALLY in a map that simple

I don't wanna delete this cuz it will be too easy here. But I try to make the SVs easier by changing the values to 1.2x and 0.8x

ok that'd be about it, i rate the map s3/rl

call me back
thanks for mod man. also fixed unused green lines and adjusted a wrongly snapped note in HD.
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http://puu.sh/zYP5C/6af0497e80.zip

please update CLSW's nerf'd top diff
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a bit of an IRC on the MX diff
17:30 Kamikaze: is tofu in the fridge atm
17:37 Tofu1222: tofu is fried
17:37 Tofu1222: =w=
17:37 Kamikaze: mfw
17:38 Kamikaze: got some time for a potential check
17:38 Tofu1222: oh nice
17:38 Tofu1222: Well, smh i think nold didnt update anyway
17:39 Kamikaze: o
17:39 Kamikaze: send me the .osu then
17:39 Tofu1222: so maybe I manually send it to you?
17:39 Tofu1222: ok
17:39 Kamikaze: send it on discord
17:39 Kamikaze: puush fucks up stuff
17:40 Tofu1222: sent
17:41 Kamikaze: ye sure sec
17:42 Kamikaze: god i hate s3rl
17:42 Tofu1222: lmao
17:42 Tofu1222: not suitable for mapping
17:42 Kamikaze: yeah
17:42 Tofu1222: :3
17:43 Kamikaze: why are you doing this to yourself man
17:43 Tofu1222: He asked for gds, and I thought well ok looks like nold is doing some big project if i join i might get sth ranked
17:43 Tofu1222: and I create this thing :thinking:
17:44 Kamikaze: exposure
17:44 Kamikaze: :thinking:
17:44 Kamikaze: god it's loading so slowly because of the fucking SB
17:44 Kamikaze: lmao
17:44 Kamikaze: in editor/test
17:45 Tofu1222: yes
17:45 Tofu1222: ;w;
17:45 Kamikaze: ok the SV is cool now
17:45 Kamikaze: easy to sightread and has some effect
17:45 Kamikaze: cOOl
17:45 Tofu1222: nice
17:47 Kamikaze: ok so the 1:24 suggestion
17:47 Kamikaze: "Even though this is the next phase of the buildup, it does not necessarily mean that the next part should be definitely harder smh."
17:47 Kamikaze: i mean yeah
17:47 Kamikaze: but also here it sounds like it should be at least consistent
17:47 Kamikaze: because what are those jacks mapped to and is it gone after
17:48 Kamikaze: (before)
17:48 Tofu1222: so what do you think i should do in that part then?
17:49 Kamikaze: you know what, I think that a good idea would be to do one of two things
17:49 Kamikaze: either not jack all the kicks before
17:49 Kamikaze: or make at least minijacks into kicks later
17:49 Kamikaze: for example 01:25:190 (85190|2,85344|1) -
17:49 Kamikaze: so you would have a more minijack oriented structure
17:50 Kamikaze: you could also expand on it and use the minijack oriented structure for kicks before
17:50 Kamikaze: so you would have no 3 note jacks but 2 note jacks
17:50 Kamikaze: and that's a HUGE diffrence actually
17:51 Kamikaze: it's silly but one note makes so much diffrence for jacks that it's funny
17:52 Tofu1222: well, I choose to add notes into kicks later to create mini-jacks
17:52 Tofu1222: that sounds more technically logical for me and indeed can represent the heavier effect of C drum over F well
17:54 Kamikaze: yea
17:54 Kamikaze: makes the structure more consistent too imo
17:57 Kamikaze: i'm trying to find a non jumptrillable pattern for the buildup hold on
17:57 Kamikaze: :^)
17:58 Kamikaze: the js
17:58 Tofu1222: ok owo
17:58 Kamikaze: 01:32:421 - this btw
17:59 Kamikaze: http://puu.sh/zYRGj/b66e367005.png
17:59 Kamikaze: w
18:03 Kamikaze: EVEN BETTER http://puu.sh/zYRR2/0f2975dbec.png
18:04 Tofu1222: omg the 2nd one lmao
18:04 Kamikaze: absolute best pattern
18:04 Kamikaze: of all time
18:05 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10668573 tryna make it this way, i dont wanna this pattern to be too hard uwu
18:06 Kamikaze: LR_Snare Hit
18:06 Kamikaze: aite
18:07 Kamikaze: i wanted to make it not dt farm pattern but it's basically one of the two screens i've shown so maybe not that good of an idea
18:07 Kamikaze: idk
18:08 Tofu1222: i am trying to find a balance point in between, not that only one-direction thing but also just keep it not as too hard lol
18:08 Kamikaze: yea fair
18:08 Kamikaze: as for the choruses
18:08 Kamikaze: hmm
18:09 Kamikaze: i think that just making more jack oriented structure instead of 1/2 trills like for example 01:42:883 (102883|0,103037|1,103190|0,103344|1,103498|0) - would be better
18:09 Kamikaze: because the chorus is basically 1/2 trill fest
18:09 Kamikaze: all
18:09 Kamikaze: the
18:09 Kamikaze: time
18:10 Kamikaze: so that's 97,5 bpm trills counting on 1/4
18:10 Kamikaze: compared the jacks in the intro
18:10 Kamikaze: is kinda lol
18:10 Kamikaze: like the intro is actually the hardest part to fc
18:10 Tofu1222: oh i see, i will try to avoid that
18:10 Kamikaze: apart from the fact that you have those kinda annoying LNs
18:11 Kamikaze: which i get because they are for the synths
18:11 Tofu1222: yes
18:11 Kamikaze: but i would consider replacing them with normal notes while making the patterning more rigid (more jack-y, more straining on hands)
18:18 Tofu1222: oh
18:20 Kamikaze: point: i would totally see that on stepmania, but here while it's visually representing the length it's also ass because of how uncomfortable it is to release
18:20 Kamikaze: those are tap LNs
18:20 Kamikaze: ...on DT
18:20 Tofu1222: ye lul
18:20 Kamikaze: yea
18:28 Tofu1222: remade everything
18:28 Tofu1222: owo
18:29 Tofu1222: indeed play nicer
18:29 Kamikaze: yeeee
18:29 Tofu1222: wanna take a look first?
18:29 Tofu1222: i am also fixing hitsounds now, you see, in calm parts such as from 00:24:729 - it is way too loud
18:30 Kamikaze: o that
18:30 Kamikaze: not now btw watching soft
18:30 Tofu1222: oh lol
18:30 Kamikaze: i just have one more note about those things 01:56:267 (116267|3,116267|2,116344|1,116344|0,116421|3) -
18:31 Kamikaze: I think this is not how it should be
18:31 Kamikaze: second note should be single
18:31 Kamikaze: third a jump
18:31 Kamikaze: so double
18:31 Kamikaze: kick things
18:31 Kamikaze: the off snap is not a hard sound
18:32 Tofu1222: hmm? but isnt the melody sound on the first and second?
18:32 Kamikaze: listen to 01:56:344 - and then to 01:56:421 -
18:32 Kamikaze: which one is harder
18:32 Kamikaze: heavier
18:32 Kamikaze: asihfoweiuahgtowrea
18:32 Kamikaze: w/e
18:33 Tofu1222: if you mean drum well...
18:33 Kamikaze: it's WAY heavier
18:33 Tofu1222: oh ok
18:45 Tofu1222: all fixed
18:45 Tofu1222: and rearranged patterns
18:48 Kamikaze: aite coolio
18:48 Kamikaze: i'll check it out after nold updates tbh
18:48 Tofu1222: ok owo
18:48 Tofu1222: thanks a lot!
18:48 Kamikaze: then if all's good i can just call it ok
18:48 Kamikaze: np w
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All updated
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mania diffs are a solid 2/10 needs more 1/4 and less nightcore
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ooooo
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after confirmation of taiko and std, call me for a nomination
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Sorry for crashing the party but a new rule for catch difficulties in a hybrid set has been applied. The rule states that the lowest difficulty isn't allowed to be harder than a Platter, meaning you need a Platter. For more information: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/717962/start=0

Rule is active for 3 days now: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6570100

You wouldn't need a Platter if there was a nomination before, but I didn't saw one. Did I miss it?
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Sanyi wrote:

Sorry for crashing the party but a new rule for catch difficulties in a hybrid set has been applied. The rule states that the lowest difficulty isn't allowed to be harder than a Platter, meaning you need a Platter. For more information: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/717962/start=0

Rule is active for 3 days now: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6570100

You wouldn't need a Platter if there was a nomination before, but I didn't saw one. Did I miss it?
Thank you for reminding. Does anyone want to make a Platter?

-Plus- will make the Platter diff.
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Ascendance wrote:

after confirmation of taiko and std, call me for a nomination
kd for helping Spec and Crystal with neufing the diff and suggestions about the hyperwalk part.
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here to mod the muzu

lmao I can't open this in MA so I guess no spread check, prob doesn't need it

00:33:344 (1) - you can maybe remove this since the piano ends there.
01:52:806 (4) - delete this because it's kind of uncomfortable as a muzukashii player to play two triples with a bit of space in between, weird as it may sound, and also I would wanna lower the intensity just a little bit before this kiai break.
02:23:806 - you could put a triple here to have intensity before the new section, and follows the snare pattern better.
02:29:037 - starting from here you stop following the vocals and it becomes quite ambiguous what you're mapping to. I would say to just keep mapping the vocal like you were in the first half of this section, since the only addition/change is the added snare on the beats 2 and 4 of every measure.
02:43:037 - you don't really need the break here (since you had oneright after the slider, and the 3/2 right after this time), so mapping a d here would fit in with the general rhythmic feel of the section and eliminate the sorta awkward break, which in turn would put more emphasis on the space left at 02:43:806 - .
03:28:883 - not quite sure this fits in the difficulty given the bpm and that it's at the end of quite a lengthy string of 1/2 spaces notes. I would suggest just deleting the middle note to avoid using that pattern.

nice sb
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Nifty wrote:

here to mod the muzu

lmao I can't open this in MA so I guess no spread check, prob doesn't need it

00:33:344 (1) - you can maybe remove this since the piano ends there.
01:52:806 (4) - delete this because it's kind of uncomfortable as a muzukashii player to play two triples with a bit of space in between, weird as it may sound, and also I would wanna lower the intensity just a little bit before this kiai break.
02:23:806 - you could put a triple here to have intensity before the new section, and follows the snare pattern better.
02:29:037 - starting from here you stop following the vocals and it becomes quite ambiguous what you're mapping to. I would say to just keep mapping the vocal like you were in the first half of this section, since the only addition/change is the added snare on the beats 2 and 4 of every measure.
02:43:037 - you don't really need the break here (since you had oneright after the slider, and the 3/2 right after this time), so mapping a d here would fit in with the general rhythmic feel of the section and eliminate the sorta awkward break, which in turn would put more emphasis on the space left at 02:43:806 - .
03:28:883 - not quite sure this fits in the difficulty given the bpm and that it's at the end of quite a lengthy string of 1/2 spaces notes. I would suggest just deleting the middle note to avoid using that pattern.

nice sb
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as I've asked CLSW for platter I think we'll get two platters for this mapset lol
anyway we'll be waiting for chara to finish his platter
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I will upload the Platter tomorrow. 😉
Uploaded

EDIT: Unfortunately, Chara will not finish his difficulty because he is too busy with real life stuff. It is a shame.
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rip
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Re-check after almost a year:

[General]

! Use N:C1 for the Taiko set so that taiko hitsounds are in effect

! Re-snap all notes after your fixations!

> Taiko K hitsound= https://puu.sh/A1GrL/fe3dd26cf6.rar Name it as taiko-normal-hitwhistle

> 00:24:729 - 85% is too loud even though the piano melody are in Forte. The drum hitsounds are too clear. Perhaps -20% for a better dynamic.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:33:344 - missed a note, the music does not really fade out completely at this timing so a note is still required

> 00:48:267 - shift it 1/2 forward (change to k) to match the vocal, display a change in general 2-4 note flow as well

> 00:57:652 - change to k, the alternation of pitch is clearly high

> 01:03:037 - remove this note since this 4 x 1/2 pattern break the consistency

! 01:05:344 - the breaking points of this section is unclear. Some cuts are on vocals/ virtuals/ instruments. Let's try: 01:05:344 (102) -

> 01:13:344 - Small suggestion on improving the flow: dkddk k k(3/2) Those vocal 'eh' should not be missed.

> 01:32:421 - kkk here, obvious triplet at the background. In addition 01:32:267 - can add an extra don

> 01:37:344 - / 01:42:267 - nnn n is smoother than n nnn. Leaving a triplet end sounds unfinished

> 01:48:421 - / 01:49:037 - similar case as above, but it even lacks consistency of usage of triplet at the latter. Try ddd d kkk k

! Check all kiais for the above issues

> 02:14:267 - another set of weird cutting of patterns, you may want them look like: 02:14:267 (1) -

> 02:19:190 - Then you can see the density spread is poor at the second repetitive section. You may just directly go on with C&P, and make some alteration at 3/2 part. A reminder that: 02:22:883 - you can do it with k k k d d kkk d, for a better flow again.

> 02:27:037 - k k d d for variation

! 02:45:037 - same 'cutting issue', fix it on your own

> 03:08:421 - / 03:12:114 - they should be fixed in the above, just a reminder here

> 03:29:652 - tripet for being consistent with 03:30:883 -

> 03:38:114 - shift it to 03:37:806 - to match the climax melody, I am not sure why you always have such weird cutting edges....

> 03:58:883 - It requires a dk style, same as 00:14:883 - , rearrange the patterns a bit, the density is fine.

[Nardo's Oni]

> 00:52:114 - the density spread was bad here until 00:54:267 - . The density just build up from nowhere and show less difference with Inner Oni. Usage of 5 x 1/4 may not be a wise choice.

> 01:00:114 - / 01:00:421 - d k? It sounds and follows the note flow better

> 01:13:806 - let's say what if you want to strictly follow drum kick= constant k in this bar. Apply in Inner Oni as well

[Nardo's Inner Oni]

> 01:59:037 - change it to k, the whole feeling of kddkddk does not seem match much... (and this is the only so called pp pattern in the whole Inner Oni, that looks weird enough)

> 02:17:806 - extra k? 1+1+5 for 8 bars seems too boring.

> 03:30:344 - change it to d for a mirror pattern with 03:31:575 -

[]

Nardo you can do some self-mods and amendments by yourself since no one really modded your Taiko set..... ;w;

Call me back for re-check, it takes too long for rank.....
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Skylish wrote:

Re-check after almost a year:

[General]

! Use N:C1 for the Taiko set so that taiko hitsounds are in effect

! Re-snap all notes after your fixations!

> Taiko K hitsound= https://puu.sh/A1GrL/fe3dd26cf6.rar Name it as taiko-normal-hitwhistle

> 00:24:729 - 85% is too loud even though the piano melody are in Forte. The drum hitsounds are too clear. Perhaps -20% for a better dynamic.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:33:344 - missed a note, the music does not really fade out completely at this timing so a note is still required

> 00:48:267 - shift it 1/2 forward (change to k) to match the vocal, display a change in general 2-4 note flow as well

> 00:57:652 - change to k, the alternation of pitch is clearly high

> 01:03:037 - remove this note since this 4 x 1/2 pattern break the consistency

! 01:05:344 - the breaking points of this section is unclear. Some cuts are on vocals/ virtuals/ instruments. Let's try: 01:05:344 (102) -

> 01:13:344 - Small suggestion on improving the flow: dkddk k k(3/2) Those vocal 'eh' should not be missed. :arrow: I changed it in another way because I want to keep the 1/2. I think the 1/2 fits the vocal more well.

> 01:32:421 - kkk here, obvious triplet at the background. In addition 01:32:267 - can add an extra don

> 01:37:344 - / 01:42:267 - nnn n is smoother than n nnn. Leaving a triplet end sounds unfinished

> 01:48:421 - / 01:49:037 - similar case as above, but it even lacks consistency of usage of triplet at the latter. Try ddd d kkk k

! Check all kiais for the above issues

> 02:14:267 - another set of weird cutting of patterns, you may want them look like: 02:14:267 (1) -

> 02:19:190 - Then you can see the density spread is poor at the second repetitive section. You may just directly go on with C&P, and make some alteration at 3/2 part. A reminder that: 02:22:883 - you can do it with k k k d d kkk d, for a better flow again.

> 02:27:037 - k k d d for variation

! 02:45:037 - same 'cutting issue', fix it on your own

> 03:08:421 - / 03:12:114 - they should be fixed in the above, just a reminder here

> 03:29:652 - tripet for being consistent with 03:30:883 -

> 03:38:114 - shift it to 03:37:806 - to match the climax melody, I am not sure why you always have such weird cutting edges....

> 03:58:883 - It requires a dk style, same as 00:14:883 - , rearrange the patterns a bit, the density is fine.
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