2017-03-22 21:35 Protastic101: ACTION boop
2017-03-22 21:35 Crymeno: hello c:
2017-03-22 21:35 Protastic101: Snoop asked me to help you out with your map a bit?
2017-03-22 21:35 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244407 Calvin Harris & Disciples - How Deep Is Your Love [Hard]]
2017-03-22 21:35 Protastic101: this one right?
2017-03-22 21:35 Crymeno: yes
2017-03-22 21:35 Crymeno: haha
2017-03-22 21:36 Protastic101: alright, did snoop send you the first two explanations I mentioned?
2017-03-22 21:36 Crymeno: No, he just said he told you about me
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101: gdi snoop
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/uVmOM.jpg Ok, so the beginning is pretty good if a bit repetitive with the column 2 and 3 minitrills, but this is where I feel like he's arbitrarily pushing difficulty in what I assume is supposed to be a Hard diff
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7632735 also might suggest putting these in different columns for variation, but mostly for reading as a player tends to associate stacked notes with an even rhythm, which is not the case here
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101: Just copying and pasting that from discord
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101: 01:01:044 (61044|2,61290|2,61658|2,62027|2) - timestamp for the second pic
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101: oh shit, need to restart osu real quick
2017-03-22 21:37 Protastic101: brb
2017-03-22 21:38 Protastic101: doot
2017-03-22 21:38 Protastic101: ok, back
2017-03-22 21:39 Crymeno: So, fixed the first thing
2017-03-22 21:39 Crymeno: But the second one, I just can't fire
2017-03-22 21:39 Protastic101: 00:45:798 (45798|2,45921|3,45921|1,46044|2) - Ok, I'm personally against diamond patterns like this, and my reason here is that it breaks flow by forcing the player's hands to move in a constricting manner by going back and forth
2017-03-22 21:39 Crymeno: figure* a way to map it
2017-03-22 21:41 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7632793 Try this maybe? It spreads the notes out a bit more which aids reading because the different rhythm spacings are represented with different note directions
2017-03-22 21:43 Protastic101: 01:04:486 (64486|1,64732|0,65224|0) - Alright, so this is more a general tip as the low bpm of the song doesnt affect playability, but in general, you'll wanna try and keep short notes on the inside columns of an LN if possible. What I mean is, in this case, you would swap the LN to col 1 and the short notes to col 2
2017-03-22 21:43 Crymeno: Yea, that feels good
2017-03-22 21:45 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7632816 basically like this, but since it ruins the pitch relevancy and structure of this section, it's fine to keep it as is
2017-03-22 21:46 Protastic101: 01:08:421 (68421|0) - as for this, I dont really recommend using 1/16 LNs unless it's a visual choice cause they're so short, it's kind of redundant
2017-03-22 21:46 Crymeno: It also creates a slow jack
2017-03-22 21:46 Protastic101: yeah, just a note to keep in mind with the LNs on faster tempos tho
2017-03-22 21:47 Crymeno: Ok
2017-03-22 21:47 Protastic101: 01:16:290 (76290|2) - same thing here. I recommend against using super short LNs unless it's for the visuals
2017-03-22 21:47 Crymeno: So I should use normal notes?
2017-03-22 21:47 Protastic101: 01:18:749 (78749|2,78994|3,79363|2,79486|3,79732|2,79978|3) - As for these, this is where I would really consider swapping the hands, or separating LNs and short notes by isolating them on one hand each
2017-03-22 21:47 Protastic101: Yes
2017-03-22 21:49 Protastic101: 01:32:273 (92273|0,92335|2,92396|1,92458|3,92519|0,92601|2,92683|1,92765|3,92888|0,93011|2,93134|1,93257|3) - eh, these are all ghost notes because literally no sound exists in the music to support them her
2017-03-22 21:49 Protastic101: here*
2017-03-22 21:50 Protastic101: Ok, well I can hear a slight echo of the hihats or whatever, but they end at 01:32:519 -
2017-03-22 21:50 Crymeno: I was going to say it
2017-03-22 21:51 Crymeno: Mapped the 1/4 ones just by intuition lol
2017-03-22 21:51 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7632840 should just be like this
2017-03-22 21:52 Protastic101: 01:30:306 - as for this here, I would recommend using jumps on the accented beats (so like the 1/4 or 1/2 stuff) like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/76328432017-03-22 21:55 Protastic101: 01:31:290 - 01:31:781 - Oh, I forgot jumps here. Eh, try this instead
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/76328502017-03-22 21:56 Crymeno: Are those jumps in sequence proposital?
2017-03-22 21:57 Protastic101: in wat ???
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2017-03-22 21:57 Crymeno: The last pic you sent
2017-03-22 21:57 Protastic101: what's a sequence proposital?
2017-03-22 21:57 Crymeno: In the beginning it's a simple jump note jump note jump
2017-03-22 21:57 Crymeno: No, like
2017-03-22 21:58 Crymeno: You were using note then jump then note then jump
2017-03-22 21:58 Protastic101: Ah ok, well the way I arranged the jumps was to highlight both the rhythm like this 01:28:585 (88585|2,88830|1,89199|2,89322|1,89568|2,89814|1,90060|2) - , and also the 1/1 kicks and stuff
2017-03-22 21:58 Crymeno: oh
2017-03-22 21:58 Crymeno: Oh ok got it
2017-03-22 21:58 Crymeno: Yeah that makes sense
2017-03-22 22:00 Protastic101: ok
2017-03-22 22:01 Protastic101: 01:36:699 (96699|2,96945|2,97191|2) - oh yeah, so these are called stacks, and they're ok at this bpm, but I'd try and be careful with them
2017-03-22 22:01 Crymeno: Oh I haven't noticed it before
2017-03-22 22:02 Protastic101: they can get a bit repetitive to play and strains one finger more than all the others, so the weight distribution is uneevn
2017-03-22 22:02 Protastic101: uneven*
2017-03-22 22:03 Protastic101: 01:36:208 (96208|3,96208|1,96208|2) - another thing I wanna mention are these hands
2017-03-22 22:03 Crymeno: Yes, I have conscienceof that
2017-03-22 22:04 Protastic101: So the emphasis comes on the 2nd and 4th downbeats (01:36:699 - 01:37:683 - for example), so I believe the larger chords should fall on the claps there
2017-03-22 22:04 Protastic101: as opposed to the weaker kicks on beat 1 and 3
2017-03-22 22:05 Crymeno: Yes
2017-03-22 22:05 Protastic101: 01:38:667 (98667|1,98912|1,99158|1) - similar stuff I mentioned about stacks, could move 01:38:912 (98912|1) - to 3 instead
2017-03-22 22:06 Protastic101: structurally, the rest of the kiai is pretty similar. I think the major flaw there is that since this is the hardest diff, I would advise against using jumps (doubles) to emphasize the synth, like at 01:42:970 (102970|1,102970|3) - 01:41:003 (101003|3,101003|2) - or 01:39:035 (99035|3,99035|0) - for example
2017-03-22 22:06 Protastic101: I feel like that's something you could fit into a slightly harder diff
2017-03-22 22:08 Protastic101: That's only my opinion though, do take it with a grain of salt.
2017-03-22 22:08 Crymeno: I feel like if I don't emphasize the synth
2017-03-22 22:08 Crymeno: How can I say it
2017-03-22 22:08 Protastic101: the map will feel stale?
2017-03-22 22:09 Protastic101: I understand where you're coming from, that's why I only commented on it
2017-03-22 22:09 Crymeno: Yes, kinda
2017-03-22 22:11 Protastic101: 01:49:978 - as for here, I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but I'd recommend using jumps on every 1/1 tick for the kicks
2017-03-22 22:11 Protastic101: 01:51:453 - 01:53:421 - 01:55:388 - or at least here on the 4th downbeats of every measure since there's a bit more emphasis here
2017-03-22 22:12 Protastic101: 02:03:994 (123994|2,124240|2,124609|2,124978|2) - also, similar to what I mentioned in the second screenshot I sent you a while back
2017-03-22 22:12 Protastic101: 02:12:109 (132109|2,132355|2,132601|2) - stacks!
2017-03-22 22:13 Protastic101: 02:13:830 (133830|2,134322|2) - these are cool. I like these
2017-03-22 22:13 Protastic101: 02:19:978 (139978|0,140224|0,140470|0,140716|0,140962|0) - ok, longer stack this time
2017-03-22 22:13 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7632915 would recommend something kind of like this instead. Reduces the stacks a bit, plus there's a triple at the end of 02:20:962 - for the snare or whatever
2017-03-22 22:16 Crymeno: I mapped this in like
2017-03-22 22:16 Crymeno: A hour and a half
2017-03-22 22:16 Protastic101: lol rip
2017-03-22 22:17 Protastic101: I need to get off and go to sleep soon
2017-03-22 22:17 Crymeno: And I wasn't really paying that much of an attention lol
2017-03-22 22:17 Crymeno: haha me too
2017-03-22 22:17 Crymeno: Ok someone just pvt me saying that the song I was mapping was cool
2017-03-22 22:17 Protastic101: Do you want me to post the log or nah?
2017-03-22 22:18 Crymeno: If you want to
2017-03-22 22:18 Protastic101: Im not really a fan of the song tbh lol
2017-03-22 22:18 Crymeno: I don't really listen to Calvin Harris but I do love this song