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ARForest - Altros [OsuMania]

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Topic Starter
Cataclysm
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on October 25, 2018 at 6:56:03 PM

Artist: ARForest
Title: Altros
Source: BMS
Tags: riunosk artcore dustmoon electronic instrumental
BPM: 195
Filesize: 4583kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hyper - 4Key (3.73 stars, 1064 notes)
  2. Moon's Easy - 4Key (1.91 stars, 345 notes)
  3. Hard - 4Key (3.11 stars, 818 notes)
  4. Normal - 4Key (2.12 stars, 510 notes)
  5. riu's Madness - 4Key (4.76 stars, 1312 notes)
Download: ARForest - Altros
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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12 mods

Moon's Easy by DustMoon
Normal by Me
Hard by Me
Hyper by Me
riu's Madness by riunosk
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
A mod would be appreciated :D
Another Lie
I'm coming for your request at


Insane
00:03:570 (3570|3,3724|2,3878|1,4032|3,4186|0,4340|1,4494|2,4647|0,4801|3) - make it consistent. if you're going by long note, then continue it as long note
00:05:417 (5417|3,5417|0,5878|2) - remove them, because those sounds are not louder than the others
00:05:724 - add 1 note, i hear other sound there
00:06:032 - same ^
00:06:801 (6801|0,6801|2) - choose one to change it as normal note
00:07:417 (7417|0,7417|2) - same ^
00:08:186 (8186|1,8186|3) - same ^
00:07:263 (7263|2) - i guess you can move this to 4th column
00:09:109 (9109|1,9109|3) - low sound, choose 1 to delete it [i suggest the 4th column]
00:09:417 (9417|0) - delete
00:09:263 - add note to 1st column
00:10:032 (10032|0) - delete
00:10:186 - add note for higher sound
00:10:340 - same ^
00:10:494 (10494|1,10647|2) - move it 1 step to the right
00:10:955 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:11:878 - same ^
00:12:186 - same ^
00:13:417 - same ^
00:14:647 - same ^
00:15:878 - same ^
00:16:494 (16494|3) - delete, not higher sound
00:16:801 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:16:955 (16955|0,16955|3) - delete
00:17:109 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:17:724 (17724|1) - make normal note
00:31:340 (31340|1) - delete
00:32:724 (32724|3) - delete, focus with main sound
00:33:186 (33186|0) - delete, ^
00:33:417 (33417|3,33417|2) - delete 1, i only hear low sound there
00:33:724 (33724|2,33724|3) - ^
00:33:878 (33878|2,33878|0,33878|1) - delete 1, that sound isn't higher than 00:34:032 (34032|3,34032|1,34032|0) -
00:35:570 (35570|1,35570|2) - delete 1, that sound isn't higher than 00:35:724 (35724|3,35724|2) -
00:35:878 (35878|3,35878|2,35878|0) - delete 2, same reason ^
00:36:263 (36263|1) - delete, no sound there
00:36:570 (36570|1) - delete, same ^
ugh.... this mod would be longest mod from my history if i continue. Use 25% or 50% playback rate for mapping.
If you happened to see similiar issues like that mod, delete, add & change by yourself.
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

Another Lie wrote:

I'm coming for your request at


Insane
00:03:570 (3570|3,3724|2,3878|1,4032|3,4186|0,4340|1,4494|2,4647|0,4801|3) - make it consistent. if you're going by long note, then continue it as long note
00:05:417 (5417|3,5417|0,5878|2) - remove them, because those sounds are not louder than the others
00:05:724 - add 1 note, i hear other sound there
00:06:032 - same ^
00:06:801 (6801|0,6801|2) - choose one to change it as normal note
00:07:417 (7417|0,7417|2) - same ^
00:08:186 (8186|1,8186|3) - same ^
00:07:263 (7263|2) - i guess you can move this to 4th column
00:09:109 (9109|1,9109|3) - low sound, choose 1 to delete it [i suggest the 4th column]
00:09:417 (9417|0) - delete
00:09:263 - add note to 1st column
00:10:032 (10032|0) - delete
00:10:186 - add note for higher sound
00:10:340 - same ^
00:10:494 (10494|1,10647|2) - move it 1 step to the right
00:10:955 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:11:878 - same ^
00:12:186 - same ^
00:13:417 - same ^
00:14:647 - same ^
00:15:878 - same ^
00:16:494 (16494|3) - delete, not higher sound
00:16:801 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:16:955 (16955|0,16955|3) - delete
00:17:109 - add 1 note for higher sound
00:17:724 (17724|1) - make normal note
00:31:340 (31340|1) - delete
00:32:724 (32724|3) - delete, focus with main sound
00:33:186 (33186|0) - delete, ^
00:33:417 (33417|3,33417|2) - delete 1, i only hear low sound there
00:33:724 (33724|2,33724|3) - ^
00:33:878 (33878|2,33878|0,33878|1) - delete 1, that sound isn't higher than 00:34:032 (34032|3,34032|1,34032|0) -
00:35:570 (35570|1,35570|2) - delete 1, that sound isn't higher than 00:35:724 (35724|3,35724|2) -
00:35:878 (35878|3,35878|2,35878|0) - delete 2, same reason ^
00:36:263 (36263|1) - delete, no sound there
00:36:570 (36570|1) - delete, same ^
ugh.... this mod would be longest mod from my history if i continue. Use 25% or 50% playback rate for mapping.
If you happened to see similiar issues like that mod, delete, add & change by yourself.

Thanks! Fixed
DustMoon
hey~Symacon from CanPoint modding queue[mania]
General
You need check Aimod
  1. Background image is larger than 1366x768.
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This is my Easy GD
Link:https://puu.sh/uO1Dr/11359fc09f.osu
Moon's Easy
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
Cataclysm

DustMoon wrote:

hey~Symacon from CanPoint modding queue[mania]
General
You need check Aimod
  1. Background image is larger than 1366x768.
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This is my Easy GD
Link:https://puu.sh/uO1Dr/11359fc09f.osu
Moon's Easy
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 84186
Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Altros
TitleUnicode:Altros
Artist:ARForest
ArtistUnicode:ARForest
Creator:Symacon
Version:Moon's Easy
Source:BMS
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

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OverallDifficulty:4
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448,192,99724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,100494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,100494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,100801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,100801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,101109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,101109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,101417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,101417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,101417,128,0,102647:0:0:0:0:
192,192,101878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,101878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,102186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,102186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,102647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,102647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,102955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,102955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,103263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,103263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,103263,128,0,103878:0:0:0:0:
64,192,103878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,104186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,104340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,104494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,104647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,104801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,104955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,105109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,105263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,105417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,105570,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,105724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,105878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,106032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,106186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,106340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,106494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,106647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,106801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,106955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,107109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,107263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,107417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,107570,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,107724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,107878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,108032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,108186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,108340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,108494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,108647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,108801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,108955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,109109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,109263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,109417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,109570,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,109724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,109878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,110032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,110186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,110340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,110494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,110647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,110801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,110955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,111109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,111263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,111417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,111570,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,111724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,111878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,112032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,112186,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,112340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,112647,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,112801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,112955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,113109,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,113263,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,113417,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,113570,1,0,0:0:0:0:

Thanks!
ChokeMeister
Insane
00:06:801 (6801|0) - Do not hear anything in the music for a note here
00:08:186 (8186|3) - Move note up a whole beat
00:07:417 (7417|2) - Move this down half a beat
00:08:801 (8801|1,8801|3,8955|2,8955|0) - Remove one of the sliders from each line there
00:08:955 - add a note here
00:09:724 (9724|0,9724|1) - Replace one of the sliders with a note

00:12:801 (12801|3) - Add another note on this line
00:14:340 (14340|1) - Same^^
00:15:263 (15263|3) - Same^^
00:17:724 (17724|0) - Same^^
00:18:340 (18340|2) - Same^^
00:19:570 (19570|0) - Same^^

00:15:570 (15570|0) - Remove random slider
00:34:186 (34186|0) - Same^^
01:14:340 (74340|3) - Same^^
01:22:647 (82647|0) - Same^^

00:19:109 (19109|2) - Move slider up 1 1/2 beats

00:37:417 (37417|1) - Shorten slider by half a beat
00:52:186 (52186|2,52186|0,52186|1,52186|3) - Extend sliders by half a beat

00:38:032 (38032|0) - Move slider down half a beat
00:38:494 (38494|2) - Same^^

01:25:955 - Add a note here, just like you did at 1:25:304

01:37:878 - Some speed-ups and slow-downs would go nicely here

01:49:570 (109570|1,109570|2) - Remove one of the notes here
Litharrale
mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
audio is 128kbps.
Rankable audio is from 128-192 kbps so you're within the bounds but using the lowest quality audio possible isn't great

Insane
>100% volume default hitsounds
AHHHH MINE EARS
Hitsound your map.
Even just drop the volume down to 30% and you'll be amazed at how much it does for your map

00:05:724 (5724|0) - add a note
00:05:417 (5417|0) - ^
etc throughout the whole short ln section
00:15:570 (15570|0) - What is this LN mapping?
00:18:647 (18647|0) - remove
00:19:263 (19263|2) - add
00:22:801 (22801|1) - bass is a single but 00:23:109 (23109|0,23109|2) - nothing is a double?
00:24:647 (24647|1) - http://i.imgur.com/AjiHhjc.png don't forget you're mapping 4k, not 3k
00:26:032 (26032|2) - remove 1 or 2
00:28:801 (28801|1) - Whole section needs to be more consistent
00:55:570 (55570|0,55878|2) - What are these mapping?
01:24:186 (84186|2,84186|0,84186|1,84186|3,84647|3,84647|2,84647|1,84647|0) - jfc
01:33:955 (93955|2) - you can make the streams in the kiai section a lot more interesting pattern wise
01:39:301 (99301|1) - remove or move to the white tick
01:43:878 (103878|0) - remove
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

Litharrale wrote:

mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
audio is 128kbps.
Rankable audio is from 128-192 kbps so you're within the bounds but using the lowest quality audio possible isn't great

Insane
>100% volume default hitsounds
AHHHH MINE EARS
Hitsound your map.
Even just drop the volume down to 30% and you'll be amazed at how much it does for your map

00:05:724 (5724|0) - add a note
00:05:417 (5417|0) - ^
etc throughout the whole short ln section
00:15:570 (15570|0) - What is this LN mapping?
00:18:647 (18647|0) - remove
00:19:263 (19263|2) - add
00:22:801 (22801|1) - bass is a single but 00:23:109 (23109|0,23109|2) - nothing is a double?
00:24:647 (24647|1) - http://i.imgur.com/AjiHhjc.png don't forget you're mapping 4k, not 3k
00:26:032 (26032|2) - remove 1 or 2
00:28:801 (28801|1) - Whole section needs to be more consistent
00:55:570 (55570|0,55878|2) - What are these mapping?
01:24:186 (84186|2,84186|0,84186|1,84186|3,84647|3,84647|2,84647|1,84647|0) - jfc
01:33:955 (93955|2) - you can make the streams in the kiai section a lot more interesting pattern wise
01:39:301 (99301|1) - remove or move to the white tick
01:43:878 (103878|0) - remove
Thanks for your help :D
John Doe
From my modding queue

Just to clarify this, if i say something about 0/1/2/3, i mean the 4 keys you are using for playing (1 = most left key, 4 = most right key).
Anyways, let's go!!!

Nature's Madness
00:06:340 Would add a note here
00:06:955 Same here (you began emphasizing the drums and snares, so you should keep doing that)
00:14:647 (14647|0,14647|3,14801|3) Jacks are ok, but do not use them randomly
00:16:186 (16186|1,16340|2,16494|1,16647|2,16801|0,16801|1,16955|2,17109|3,17109|1,17263|2) Seems imbalanced to me, you have 4 notes on 1 and 2 here, but only 1 note on 0 and 3
00:19:570 (19570|1,19570|0) Would delete these since they are not fitting for this soft sound
00:20:186 (20186|0,20186|1,20186|3) Would delete 00:20:186 (20186|1) and change one of the 2 notes here into a LN untill 00:22:340
00:22:801 (22801|1,22878|2,22955|1,22955|3) Delete 00:22:878 (22878|2) and move 00:22:801 (22801|1) to 2
00:23:186 Here i'd add a note, because the middle sound is louder than at 00:22:801
00:23:955 (23955|3) Ghostnote
00:24:032 (24032|1,24032|2,24186|1,24186|3,24186|0,24340|1,24417|2) Same balancing issue as at 00:16:186, I'll stop mentioning that, i think you should get what i mean
00:31:955 (31955|1,32032|0,32032|2,32109|1) I'd never use this pattern since it is pretty imbalanced (and everyone hates it)
00:40:340 (40340|2,40340|0,40494|0,40494|2,40570|1,40647|2,40724|3,40801|2,40878|3,40955|2,41032|1,41109|3,41109|0,41109|2,41186|1,41263|2,41340|3,41417|2,41494|1,41570|2,41647|3,41724|2,41801|1,41878|2,41955|3,42032|2) I couldn't resist, sry. This, my friend, is imbalancing at its finest
00:42:340 (42340|3,42340|1,42340|2,42340|0) Would delete 1 because a quad and a jack here is way too overkill for this map
00:44:801 (44801|3,44801|0) LNs end at 00:45:109
00:45:570 (45570|1,45570|2,45570|0,45724|3,45724|2,45878|2,45878|1) WOOOOOW, that's not how you should use doubles xD. They can be used to emphasize or to map drums, but not for such soft sounds like these
00:46:801 (46801|2,46955|2,46955|0,46955|3) Do not map a jack here, same reason as the last point

I end this mod here, i just wanted to give you some basic information. To say this again, if a sound gets harder or louder, you use doubles, tripples or even quads. If a sound does that and is similar to the previous one, you can place jacks. If you have any questions to ask, feel free to message me ingame, too.

PS: Fantastic song choice
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

LordTimeWaste wrote:

From my modding queue

Just to clarify this, if i say something about 0/1/2/3, i mean the 4 keys you are using for playing (1 = most left key, 4 = most right key).
Anyways, let's go!!!

Nature's Madness
00:06:340 Would add a note here
00:06:955 Same here (you began emphasizing the drums and snares, so you should keep doing that)
00:14:647 (14647|0,14647|3,14801|3) Jacks are ok, but do not use them randomly
00:16:186 (16186|1,16340|2,16494|1,16647|2,16801|0,16801|1,16955|2,17109|3,17109|1,17263|2) Seems imbalanced to me, you have 4 notes on 1 and 2 here, but only 1 note on 0 and 3
00:19:570 (19570|1,19570|0) Would delete these since they are not fitting for this soft sound
00:20:186 (20186|0,20186|1,20186|3) Would delete 00:20:186 (20186|1) and change one of the 2 notes here into a LN untill 00:22:340
00:22:801 (22801|1,22878|2,22955|1,22955|3) Delete 00:22:878 (22878|2) and move 00:22:801 (22801|1) to 2
00:23:186 Here i'd add a note, because the middle sound is louder than at 00:22:801
00:23:955 (23955|3) Ghostnote
00:24:032 (24032|1,24032|2,24186|1,24186|3,24186|0,24340|1,24417|2) Same balancing issue as at 00:16:186, I'll stop mentioning that, i think you should get what i mean
00:31:955 (31955|1,32032|0,32032|2,32109|1) I'd never use this pattern since it is pretty imbalanced (and everyone hates it)
00:40:340 (40340|2,40340|0,40494|0,40494|2,40570|1,40647|2,40724|3,40801|2,40878|3,40955|2,41032|1,41109|3,41109|0,41109|2,41186|1,41263|2,41340|3,41417|2,41494|1,41570|2,41647|3,41724|2,41801|1,41878|2,41955|3,42032|2) I couldn't resist, sry. This, my friend, is imbalancing at its finest
00:42:340 (42340|3,42340|1,42340|2,42340|0) Would delete 1 because a quad and a jack here is way too overkill for this map
00:44:801 (44801|3,44801|0) LNs end at 00:45:109
00:45:570 (45570|1,45570|2,45570|0,45724|3,45724|2,45878|2,45878|1) WOOOOOW, that's not how you should use doubles xD. They can be used to emphasize or to map drums, but not for such soft sounds like these
00:46:801 (46801|2,46955|2,46955|0,46955|3) Do not map a jack here, same reason as the last point

I end this mod here, i just wanted to give you some basic information. To say this again, if a sound gets harder or louder, you use doubles, tripples or even quads. If a sound does that and is similar to the previous one, you can place jacks. If you have any questions to ask, feel free to message me ingame, too.

PS: Fantastic song choice
Thanks so much :)
Syadow-
ay sy sorry for delay ;w;
quick Mod
[General]

od hp nm = 7 7

apply with similar one

see ranked beatmap as reference, n dont overmapped while mapping

[Nature]

00:20:186 - double for emphasis

00:21:570 - i suggest to make this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7634723

00:22:801 (22801|2) - more loud than 00:23:109 (23109|1,23109|0) - so 00:23:109 (23109|1) - remove it

00:23:724 - double same like 00:24:032 -

00:24:340 (24340|0,24647|0) - double

00:25:417 (25417|3,25417|2,25570|1,25570|0,25570|3) - triple double plz not double triple

00:26:186 - double

00:26:494 (26494|2,26570|3,26801|2) - double

00:26:647 (26647|2) - double or triple up to u

00:27:109 (27109|0,27109|2,27109|3) - single n 00:27:186 - double

00:27:417 - double or triple

00:27:340 (27340|2) - remove

00:27:801 (27801|2,27955|2) - remove

00:27:878 - double

00:28:570 - add note

00:29:032 - add note

00:29:263 (29263|1,29340|2,29340|3) - double single

00:29:494 - add note

00:29:724 (29724|3,29801|2) - double n remove 00:29:801 -

00:29:878 - double

00:30:647 (30647|3,30647|2) - single

00:30:724 - double n 00:30:801 (30801|0,30801|2) - single

00:30:955 (30955|2,31032|1) - double

00:36:955 (36955|0,36955|3,36955|2) - single n 00:37:032 - double

00:52:186 (52186|3,52186|0,52186|2,52186|1) - release here 00:52:494 -

00:57:417 - add note

01:04:186 - u can use like 00:22:340 -

01:23:532 (83532|3) - remove

01:23:570 - okay overmapped, i suggest to change into 1/4 beat

01:53:724 - add note
Good Luck >w< sorry for little mod ;w;
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

Syadow- wrote:

ay sy sorry for delay ;w;
quick Mod
[General]

od hp nm = 7 7

apply with similar one

see ranked beatmap as reference, n dont overmapped while mapping

[Nature]

00:20:186 - double for emphasis

00:21:570 - i suggest to make this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7634723

00:22:801 (22801|2) - more loud than 00:23:109 (23109|1,23109|0) - so 00:23:109 (23109|1) - remove it

00:23:724 - double same like 00:24:032 -

00:24:340 (24340|0,24647|0) - double

00:25:417 (25417|3,25417|2,25570|1,25570|0,25570|3) - triple double plz not double triple

00:26:186 - double

00:26:494 (26494|2,26570|3,26801|2) - double

00:26:647 (26647|2) - double or triple up to u

00:27:109 (27109|0,27109|2,27109|3) - single n 00:27:186 - double

00:27:417 - double or triple

00:27:340 (27340|2) - remove

00:27:801 (27801|2,27955|2) - remove

00:27:878 - double

00:28:570 - add note

00:29:032 - add note

00:29:263 (29263|1,29340|2,29340|3) - double single

00:29:494 - add note

00:29:724 (29724|3,29801|2) - double n remove 00:29:801 -

00:29:878 - double

00:30:647 (30647|3,30647|2) - single

00:30:724 - double n 00:30:801 (30801|0,30801|2) - single

00:30:955 (30955|2,31032|1) - double

00:36:955 (36955|0,36955|3,36955|2) - single n 00:37:032 - double

00:52:186 (52186|3,52186|0,52186|2,52186|1) - release here 00:52:494 -

00:57:417 - add note

01:04:186 - u can use like 00:22:340 -

01:23:532 (83532|3) - remove

01:23:570 - okay overmapped, i suggest to change into 1/4 beat

01:53:724 - add note
Good Luck >w< sorry for little mod ;w;
Thanks for your help! :)
Nevertary
hi, i'm from ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) queue


NM fast mod

Nature's Madness
00:07:878 - add 1 note
00:10:955 - add on column 2
00:23:724 - add 1
00:24:647 - ^
00:26:186 - ^
00:26:340 - remove 1
00:26:647 - add 1
00:27:417 - ^
00:27:801 - add on column 2
00:28:186 - add on column 1
00:28:647 - add on col 4
00:28:955 - add on col 3
00:29:570 - add 1 note
00:29:724 - ^
00:29:878 - ^
00:30:724 - ^
00:30:878 (30878|1) - remove
00:31:186 (31186|1) - ^
00:31:417 - add 1
00:31:570 - ^
00:31:724 - ^
00:32:340 (32340|2,32417|1,32494|0) - make doublethrill
00:32:801 - add 1 or 2 note
00:33:263 - ^
00:34:647 - add on col 2
00:35:263 - add 1 note
00:35:417 - remove 1
00:35:570 - ^
00:35:724 - add 1
00:36:186 - remove 1
00:36:494 - add 1 or 2 note
00:36:801 (36801|2,36801|1,36955|2,36955|3,36955|0) - ctrl+j
00:37:032 - add 1
00:37:724 - ^
00:38:801 - remove 1
00:38:955 - add 1
00:39:263 - remove 1 or 2
00:39:570 - add 1 or 2
00:40:186 - add 1
00:40:647 - add on col 4
00:41:417 - add on col 1
00:41:724 - add 1
00:42:032 - ^
00:49:109 - remove col 4
00:54:955 - add 1
00:57:417 - add 1 or 2 note
01:02:186 - you missing a note here
01:14:032 - LN on col 1 actually start here
01:24:186 (84186|0) - move to col 3
01:23:532 (83532|3,83570|2,83609|1,83647|0,83686|3,83724|2,83763|1,83801|0,83840|2,83878|3,83917|1,83955|0,83994|2,84032|3,84070|1,84109|0) - recommend change to 1/4 LN
01:24:340 (84340|1,84340|0,84340|3,84494|2) - ctrl+j
01:26:801 (86801|3,86801|1,86801|0,86955|2) - ^
01:27:109 - remove 1
01:27:417 (87417|1,87570|2) - above : 2, below : 3
01:31:109 - add 2 or 3 note
01:34:186 (94186|0,94186|2,94186|3,94340|1) - ctrl+j
01:36:032 - add 2 note
01:39:724 - ^
01:40:340 (100340|1,100494|2) - add 1 between this and 01:40:494 - add 2 note here
01:40:801 - add 2 note
01:24:032 - recommend make preview time here

good luck mate ;)
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

Nevertary wrote:

hi, i'm from ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) queue


NM fast mod

Nature's Madness
00:07:878 - add 1 note
00:10:955 - add on column 2
00:23:724 - add 1
00:24:647 - ^
00:26:186 - ^
00:26:340 - remove 1
00:26:647 - add 1
00:27:417 - ^
00:27:801 - add on column 2
00:28:186 - add on column 1
00:28:647 - add on col 4
00:28:955 - add on col 3
00:29:570 - add 1 note
00:29:724 - ^
00:29:878 - ^
00:30:724 - ^
00:30:878 (30878|1) - remove
00:31:186 (31186|1) - ^
00:31:417 - add 1
00:31:570 - ^
00:31:724 - ^
00:32:340 (32340|2,32417|1,32494|0) - make doublethrill
00:32:801 - add 1 or 2 note
00:33:263 - ^
00:34:647 - add on col 2
00:35:263 - add 1 note
00:35:417 - remove 1
00:35:570 - ^
00:35:724 - add 1
00:36:186 - remove 1
00:36:494 - add 1 or 2 note
00:36:801 (36801|2,36801|1,36955|2,36955|3,36955|0) - ctrl+j
00:37:032 - add 1
00:37:724 - ^
00:38:801 - remove 1
00:38:955 - add 1
00:39:263 - remove 1 or 2
00:39:570 - add 1 or 2
00:40:186 - add 1
00:40:647 - add on col 4
00:41:417 - add on col 1
00:41:724 - add 1
00:42:032 - ^
00:49:109 - remove col 4
00:54:955 - add 1
00:57:417 - add 1 or 2 note
01:02:186 - you missing a note here
01:14:032 - LN on col 1 actually start here
01:24:186 (84186|0) - move to col 3
01:23:532 (83532|3,83570|2,83609|1,83647|0,83686|3,83724|2,83763|1,83801|0,83840|2,83878|3,83917|1,83955|0,83994|2,84032|3,84070|1,84109|0) - recommend change to 1/4 LN
01:24:340 (84340|1,84340|0,84340|3,84494|2) - ctrl+j
01:26:801 (86801|3,86801|1,86801|0,86955|2) - ^
01:27:109 - remove 1
01:27:417 (87417|1,87570|2) - above : 2, below : 3
01:31:109 - add 2 or 3 note
01:34:186 (94186|0,94186|2,94186|3,94340|1) - ctrl+j
01:36:032 - add 2 note
01:39:724 - ^
01:40:340 (100340|1,100494|2) - add 1 between this and 01:40:494 - add 2 note here
01:40:801 - add 2 note
01:24:032 - recommend make preview time here

good luck mate ;)
Thanks and fixed 8-)
genkicho
NM From My Mod Queue

errors everywhere, i suggest remake :<
Insane
The consistency in this map kinda weird, i will try avoid modding that
00:03:570 (3570|3) - why suddenly change to normal notes
00:15:417 (15417|0,15570|0) - pls avoid this for different sound
00:15:570 (15570|0) - what are these lns for
00:17:263 (17263|2,17417|0,17570|2,17724|0,17878|2,18032|0) - pls avoid if not repeated sound
00:24:494 (24494|3,24647|3,24801|3) - looks weird
00:24:186 (24186|0) - from here, column 1 is empty... i think rearrange
00:32:647 (32647|2,32724|3,32801|2,32955|2,33109|2) - rearrange?
00:38:647 (38647|1,38801|1,38955|1) - rearrange?
00:40:340 (40340|2,40494|2,40647|2,40801|2,40955|2,41109|2,41263|2,41417|2,41570|2,41724|2,41878|2,42032|2) - this is insane
00:46:494 (46494|2,46494|3,46494|0) - single
00:46:340 (46340|1) - triple
00:46:647 (46647|1) - triple
00:48:801 (48801|1) - check
00:48:955 (48955|2,48955|0,48955|3) - check
00:50:955 (50955|1,51109|2,51263|3,51417|2,51570|1,51724|0,51878|1) - what are these for
00:52:186 (52186|1) - i suggest extend to white line
00:55:263 (55263|0) - whats this for
01:01:263 (61263|2,61417|1,61570|2,61724|1,61878|2) - rearrange?
01:09:570 missing note
01:15:417 (75417|2) - and 01:15:724 (75724|2) - are different sound, i suggest different column
01:23:532 (83532|3,83570|2,83609|1,83647|0,83686|3,83724|2,83763|1,83801|0,83840|2,83878|3,83917|1,83955|0,83994|2,84032|3,84070|1,84109|0) - dont map only for star rating please. 1/4
01:24:647 (84647|3,84647|0,84647|1,84647|2) - why quad
01:26:494 (86494|0,86494|1,86494|2,86494|3) - ^
01:32:263 (92263|2,92417|2,92570|2,92724|2,92878|2,93032|2,93186|2) - rearrange?
01:38:955 (98955|0,98994|1,99032|2,99070|3,99109|2,99147|1,99186|0,99224|1,99263|2) - according to map difficulty, i suggest dont do this 01:39:032 (99032|2,99109|2,99147|1,99224|1) - ... how about this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7649990
01:41:417 (101417|1) - from here col 1 is empty, and 01:41:263 (101263|1,101417|1,101570|1,101724|1,101878|1,102032|1) - rearrange?
01:42:494 (102494|1,102647|1,102801|1,102955|1,103109|1,103263|1) - rearrange?
01:42:494 (102494|3) - col 4 empty

If you have enough time, please reply to my mod (which one you accept and denied), thx :D
riunosk

loved the track
i strongly think that Nature's Madness has a lot of room for improvement, i'm sorry that im unable to mod it as of now as im still very busy but i can do an irc with you, which is preferred so i can give you some tips along the way
contact me soon :d
also i have hope and faith that this map will go far some day so here are some stars <3
Cokii-
hey sorry for only modding Nature's Madness

first of you really need to work on this consistency of your map
and you should a diff between Nature's Madness and Normal because of the huge difficulty gap

Nature's Madness
00:07:724 (7724|1) - delete this note
00:08:186 (8186|1,8186|0) - add 2 notes here
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653683 rearrange this
00:24:186 (24186|3,24186|1,24186|0) - ,00:24:647 (24647|0,24647|2,24647|1) - ,00:25:417 (25417|1,25417|0,25417|3) - and onward i'd try to focus on one sound for hands
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653718 rearrange again
00:26:417 (26417|1) - ghost note
00:27:417 (27417|3,27417|0,27417|1,27417|2,27570|2,27570|1) - ctrl + j
00:27:724 (27724|1) - add a note
00:28:494 (28494|0,28494|2) - consider deleting a note
00:31:032 (31032|1) - add a note
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653806 rearrange again
00:34:724 (34724|2) - ghost note
00:46:494 (46494|0,46494|3,46494|2) - consider making this a single on C0
00:47:263 (47263|1,47263|3) - consider adding 2 notes because this sound and 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|3,49724|2,49724|0) - have a similar effect
00:48:955 (48955|3,48955|0,48955|2) - ^^
00:55:417 (55417|3) - add a note
00:58:032 (58032|3) - delete this note
00:58:340 (58340|3) - ^
00:58:955 (58955|0) - add a note
00:59:724 (59724|1,59724|3) - delete a note
00:59:878 (59878|2) - add a note
01:00:340 (60340|0) - ^
01:00:494 (60494|0) - delete a note
01:01:263 (61263|0) - ^^
01:01:878 (61878|0) - ^
01:26:494 (86494|2,86494|1,86494|0,86494|3) - delete 2 notes
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656233 rearrange this
01:27:724 (87724|3) - add a note
01:27:878 (87878|1) - delete a note
01:28:263 (88263|0) - ghost note
01:41:724 (101724|1,101801|2,101878|1,101955|2,102032|1) - this is a lower pitch than 01:41:417 (101417|1,101494|2,101570|1,101647|2) -

no kds if it didn't help

good luck with your map
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

genkicho wrote:

NM From My Mod Queue

errors everywhere, i suggest remake :<
Insane
The consistency in this map kinda weird, i will try avoid modding that
00:03:570 (3570|3) - why suddenly change to normal notes its all LN?
00:15:417 (15417|0,15570|0) - pls avoid this for different sound doesn't it go with the other singles?
00:15:570 (15570|0) - what are these lns for no LNs there?
00:17:263 (17263|2,17417|0,17570|2,17724|0,17878|2,18032|0) - pls avoid if not repeated sound fixed
00:24:494 (24494|3,24647|3,24801|3) - looks weird fixed
00:24:186 (24186|0) - from here, column 1 is empty... i think rearrange fixed
00:32:647 (32647|2,32724|3,32801|2,32955|2,33109|2) - rearrange? fixed
00:38:647 (38647|1,38801|1,38955|1) - rearrange? fixed
00:40:340 (40340|2,40494|2,40647|2,40801|2,40955|2,41109|2,41263|2,41417|2,41570|2,41724|2,41878|2,42032|2) - this is insane fixed (maybe?)
00:46:494 (46494|2,46494|3,46494|0) - single fixed
00:46:340 (46340|1) - triple fixed
00:46:647 (46647|1) - triple fixed
00:48:801 (48801|1) - check fixed
00:48:955 (48955|2,48955|0,48955|3) - check fixed
00:50:955 (50955|1,51109|2,51263|3,51417|2,51570|1,51724|0,51878|1) - what are these for fixed
00:52:186 (52186|1) - i suggest extend to white line nah, feels weird to play
00:55:263 (55263|0) - whats this for fixed
01:01:263 (61263|2,61417|1,61570|2,61724|1,61878|2) - rearrange? fixed
01:09:570 missing note fixed
01:15:417 (75417|2) - and 01:15:724 (75724|2) - are different sound, i suggest different column fixed
01:23:532 (83532|3,83570|2,83609|1,83647|0,83686|3,83724|2,83763|1,83801|0,83840|2,83878|3,83917|1,83955|0,83994|2,84032|3,84070|1,84109|0) - dont map only for star rating please. 1/4 i like this pattern, but if another person suggests I change it then I will
01:24:647 (84647|3,84647|0,84647|1,84647|2) - why quad its a double?
01:26:494 (86494|0,86494|1,86494|2,86494|3) - ^ fixed
01:32:263 (92263|2,92417|2,92570|2,92724|2,92878|2,93032|2,93186|2) - rearrange? fixed
01:38:955 (98955|0,98994|1,99032|2,99070|3,99109|2,99147|1,99186|0,99224|1,99263|2) - according to map difficulty, i suggest dont do this 01:39:032 (99032|2,99109|2,99147|1,99224|1) - ... how about this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7649990 fixed
01:41:417 (101417|1) - from here col 1 is empty , and 01:41:263 (101263|1,101417|1,101570|1,101724|1,101878|1,102032|1) - rearrange? fixed
01:42:494 (102494|1,102647|1,102801|1,102955|1,103109|1,103263|1) - rearrange? fixed
01:42:494 (102494|3) - col 4 empty i don't see it being empty

If you have enough time, please reply to my mod (which one you accept and denied), thx :D
Thanks so much.;) Look inside for what I fixed and didn't fix. And blue is confused
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
>:(

Cokiiplay wrote:

hey sorry for only modding Nature's Madness

first of you really need to work on this consistency of your map
and you should a diff between Nature's Madness and Normal because of the huge difficulty gap

Nature's Madness
00:07:724 (7724|1) - delete this note
00:08:186 (8186|1,8186|0) - add 2 notes here
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653683 rearrange this
00:24:186 (24186|3,24186|1,24186|0) - ,00:24:647 (24647|0,24647|2,24647|1) - ,00:25:417 (25417|1,25417|0,25417|3) - and onward i'd try to focus on one sound for hands
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653718 rearrange again
00:26:417 (26417|1) - ghost note
00:27:417 (27417|3,27417|0,27417|1,27417|2,27570|2,27570|1) - ctrl + j
00:27:724 (27724|1) - add a note
00:28:494 (28494|0,28494|2) - consider deleting a note
00:31:032 (31032|1) - add a note
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7653806 rearrange again
00:34:724 (34724|2) - ghost note
00:46:494 (46494|0,46494|3,46494|2) - consider making this a single on C0
00:47:263 (47263|1,47263|3) - consider adding 2 notes because this sound and 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|3,49724|2,49724|0) - have a similar effect
00:48:955 (48955|3,48955|0,48955|2) - ^^
00:55:417 (55417|3) - add a note
00:58:032 (58032|3) - delete this note
00:58:340 (58340|3) - ^
00:58:955 (58955|0) - add a note
00:59:724 (59724|1,59724|3) - delete a note
00:59:878 (59878|2) - add a note
01:00:340 (60340|0) - ^
01:00:494 (60494|0) - delete a note
01:01:263 (61263|0) - ^^
01:01:878 (61878|0) - ^
01:26:494 (86494|2,86494|1,86494|0,86494|3) - delete 2 notes
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656233 rearrange this
01:27:724 (87724|3) - add a note
01:27:878 (87878|1) - delete a note
01:28:263 (88263|0) - ghost note
01:41:724 (101724|1,101801|2,101878|1,101955|2,102032|1) - this is a lower pitch than 01:41:417 (101417|1,101494|2,101570|1,101647|2) -

no kds if it didn't help

good luck with your map
Thanks for your help m8 8-)
Damaree
Hii hii. . mod as requested

Well well why osu!topus got miss here???


Natures Madness
I'll just pointing out the problems here, since I feel this is not ready for mods
00:00:494(494|2,647|1,801|2,955|3,1109|2,1263|1,1417|0,1570|1,1724|2,1878|3,2032|2,2186|1,2340|2,2494|1,2647|0,2801|1,2955|2,3109|3,3263|2,3417|1,3570|2,3724|3,3878|0,4032|1,4186|2,4340|3,4494|2,4647|1,4801|2,4955|0,5109|1,5263|2,5417|3,5417|1,5570|2,5724|1,5724|3,5878|2,6032|0,6032|1,6186|2,6340|1,6340|3,6494|2,6647|1,6801|2,6955|3,6955|1,7109|0,7263|2,7263|3,7570|3,7724|2,7878|3,8032|2,8186|3,8340|1,8340|0,8340|2,8494|3,8494|1,8647|2,8801|1,8955|2,8955|0,9109|1,9263|0,9263|2,9417|1,9417|3,9570|2,9724|0,9724|1,9878|2,10032|1,10186|0,10186|2,10340|1,10340|0) -
I honestly dont like the ways you map this LN. . 00:00:955 (955|3,1417|0,1724|2,2186|1) - as you will observe this clearly, this is a pause sound(means the sound stopped here) so remove those. . and balance those LN's
00:22:340 (22340|2,22417|2) - this is gonna hurt much, just do a [14][23] jumpthrills here 00:22:340 - also rearrange the parts below
00:27:878 (27878|2,27878|3,27878|2) - this part is the reason why osu!topus missed. check the AiMod(ctrl+shift+A) see this
00:45:570 (45570|0) - 00:48:032 (48032|0) - this LN here doesnt make sense imo
00:46:340 (46340|3,46340|1,46340|2,46647|3,46647|2,46647|1) - why triples? make them single lol
00:47:263 (47263|0,47263|2,47263|3,47263|1,47724|2,47724|0) - what's with this quadra thing? well the LN's there are good but why theres double there? remove those
00:49:724 (49724|3,49724|0,49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) - ^ or just remove 1 note there
00:52:186 (52186|3,52186|0,52186|1,52186|2) - triple LN here maybe reasonable
00:56:494 (56494|1) - observe a pause sound, dont just map anything even theres no sound
01:24:955 - rearrange, observe balance. . col1's really empty
01:28:801 - uhh thrill's-like vibe, col1&4 are empty
01:38:955 (98955|0,98994|1,99032|2,99070|3,99109|1,99147|2,99186|0,99224|1,99263|2,99263|3) - make this more playable

Well that's all I can pointed out. the rest needs to improve, and this is not even a proper mapset. You need a Hard diff of this since the last diff is already 3.7*.
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

JooF12 wrote:

Hii hii. . mod as requested

Well well why osu!topus got miss here???


Natures Madness
I'll just pointing out the problems here, since I feel this is not ready for mods
00:00:494(494|2,647|1,801|2,955|3,1109|2,1263|1,1417|0,1570|1,1724|2,1878|3,2032|2,2186|1,2340|2,2494|1,2647|0,2801|1,2955|2,3109|3,3263|2,3417|1,3570|2,3724|3,3878|0,4032|1,4186|2,4340|3,4494|2,4647|1,4801|2,4955|0,5109|1,5263|2,5417|3,5417|1,5570|2,5724|1,5724|3,5878|2,6032|0,6032|1,6186|2,6340|1,6340|3,6494|2,6647|1,6801|2,6955|3,6955|1,7109|0,7263|2,7263|3,7570|3,7724|2,7878|3,8032|2,8186|3,8340|1,8340|0,8340|2,8494|3,8494|1,8647|2,8801|1,8955|2,8955|0,9109|1,9263|0,9263|2,9417|1,9417|3,9570|2,9724|0,9724|1,9878|2,10032|1,10186|0,10186|2,10340|1,10340|0) -
I honestly dont like the ways you map this LN. . 00:00:955 (955|3,1417|0,1724|2,2186|1) - as you will observe this clearly, this is a pause sound(means the sound stopped here) so remove those. . and balance those LN's
00:22:340 (22340|2,22417|2) - this is gonna hurt much, just do a [14][23] jumpthrills here 00:22:340 - also rearrange the parts below
00:27:878 (27878|2,27878|3,27878|2) - this part is the reason why osu!topus missed. check the AiMod(ctrl+shift+A) see this
00:45:570 (45570|0) - 00:48:032 (48032|0) - this LN here doesnt make sense imo
00:46:340 (46340|3,46340|1,46340|2,46647|3,46647|2,46647|1) - why triples? make them single lol
00:47:263 (47263|0,47263|2,47263|3,47263|1,47724|2,47724|0) - what's with this quadra thing? well the LN's there are good but why theres double there? remove those
00:49:724 (49724|3,49724|0,49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) - ^ or just remove 1 note there
00:52:186 (52186|3,52186|0,52186|1,52186|2) - triple LN here maybe reasonable
00:56:494 (56494|1) - observe a pause sound, dont just map anything even theres no sound
01:24:955 - rearrange, observe balance. . col1's really empty
01:28:801 - uhh thrill's-like vibe, col1&4 are empty
01:38:955 (98955|0,98994|1,99032|2,99070|3,99109|1,99147|2,99186|0,99224|1,99263|2,99263|3) - make this more playable

Well that's all I can pointed out. the rest needs to improve, and this is not even a proper mapset. You need a Hard diff of this since the last diff is already 3.7*.
Thanks! This is my first map so ofc I am going to make alot of mistakes. This really helped :)
riunosk
kudosu is good yes yes give some kudosu is yes yes good very
08:26 Symacon: hey
08:26 riunosk: hello
08:26 Symacon: you still up for IRC ?
08:26 riunosk: yep
08:26 Symacon: :D
08:26 riunosk: aight
08:26 Symacon: so like you said we just talk ingame?
08:26 riunosk: yea
08:26 riunosk: basically live modding
08:26 Symacon: ok c00l
08:26 *riunosk is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1240445 ARForest - Altros [Nature's Madness]]
08:27 Symacon: i updated it earlier
08:27 Symacon: just few patterns
08:27 riunosk: hmm okay
08:27 riunosk: are you intending to rank this with 2 diffs?
08:27 Symacon: idk im debating whether i should make another
08:27 riunosk: i suggest you do
08:28 Symacon: like low 3 star?
08:28 riunosk: uh
08:28 Symacon: so its in middle
08:28 riunosk: well you have your gap
08:28 Symacon: cause rn theres huge gap
08:28 riunosk: 1.5*>
08:28 riunosk: needs a diff to close it
08:28 riunosk: btw 00:02:955 (2955|2,3109|3) - move left twice for pitch
08:28 Symacon: ya ill probably work on that soon
08:28 riunosk: this is lower pitched
08:29 Symacon: o
08:29 Symacon: i see
08:29 riunosk: 00:04:801 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706519
08:29 riunosk: suggested pattern for pitch
08:29 riunosk: ^ pretty accurate
08:30 Symacon: ok ya
08:30 riunosk: just a little bit of info
08:30 Symacon: thats gud
08:30 riunosk: my modding style is based mainly on PR and playability
08:30 Symacon: im new to this so i didnt even think about that hehe
08:30 riunosk: aaa
08:30 riunosk: no worries
08:30 riunosk: everyone's gotta start somewhere
08:30 Symacon: tru
08:31 riunosk: hm
08:31 riunosk: im really liking this track already
08:31 riunosk: xd
08:31 Symacon: right
08:31 riunosk: also
08:31 Symacon: when i first heard it i knew right away
08:31 riunosk: ye
08:31 riunosk: time to map this shet
08:31 Symacon: yes
08:31 riunosk: 00:07:417 - missing note
08:31 Symacon: !
08:31 riunosk: this missing note is very obvious
08:31 riunosk: why was it left out tho
08:32 Symacon: slipped right through my fingers
08:32 Symacon: ill be more careful next time
08:32 riunosk: :e
08:32 riunosk: aight
08:32 riunosk: so far
08:32 riunosk: your chart seems to have a bit of a pr issue
08:32 Symacon: sorry pr?
08:32 riunosk: pitch relevancy
08:33 riunosk: 00:07:878 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706545
08:33 riunosk: i'll assume the missing note is fixed
08:33 Symacon: yes
08:33 riunosk: 00:08:340 (8340|1,8340|0) - why is this a double
08:33 Symacon: hm
08:33 Symacon: wow
08:34 riunosk: o _o?
08:34 Symacon: i changed it
08:34 riunosk: into?
08:34 Symacon: a single
08:34 riunosk: okay
08:34 Symacon: or should i delete it
08:35 riunosk: uh no
08:35 riunosk: theres a sound for it
08:35 riunosk: and it continues your patterning
08:35 Symacon: what about right below it as well?
08:35 riunosk: wdym?
08:36 Symacon: the same sound for the note that was above the double
08:36 Symacon: is below it as well
08:36 riunosk: uh
08:36 riunosk: can you timestamp
08:36 riunosk: im a bit lost here
08:36 Symacon: yea
08:36 Symacon: np
08:36 Symacon: 8:186
08:36 riunosk: from what i see
08:36 riunosk: its a single note
08:36 riunosk: and its a LN
08:37 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706564
08:37 riunosk: did you change something?
08:37 Symacon: no i was just asking if i should put a note there
08:37 riunosk: oh
08:37 riunosk: hm
08:37 riunosk: im not sure what the single notes you put so far are following
08:37 riunosk: sometimes it follows a certain sound
08:37 riunosk: then it stops
08:38 Symacon: hm
08:38 riunosk: basically ghost notes
08:38 Symacon: so i should fix the consistency
08:38 riunosk: yes
08:38 riunosk: consistency is important
08:39 Symacon: ok i fixed the singles at beginning to follow just 1 sound
08:39 riunosk: okay good
08:39 Symacon: 00:08:494 (8494|3) -
08:39 Symacon: that sound
08:39 riunosk: hi hats?
08:39 Symacon: idk what its called xd
08:40 riunosk: meh
08:40 riunosk: w/e
08:40 riunosk: anyway
08:40 riunosk: serious issue imo
08:40 Symacon: lets continue :3
08:40 riunosk: 00:22:340 (22340|2,22417|2) -
08:40 riunosk: try not to ever do this
08:40 Symacon: i couldve sworn i deleted that
08:40 riunosk: well
08:40 riunosk: it magically reappeared
08:40 Symacon: hm
08:40 Symacon: yes
08:40 Symacon: ok i fixed that
08:40 riunosk: the next section
08:41 riunosk: (im gonna be blunt)
08:41 riunosk: has a shitton of ghost notes
08:41 Symacon: with the 1/4?
08:41 Symacon: stuff
08:41 riunosk: basically the notes itself
08:41 riunosk: some dont follow any sound
08:41 riunosk: 00:24:417 (24417|2) -
08:41 riunosk: like this
08:42 Symacon: o
08:42 riunosk: 00:26:263 (26263|1) - this too
08:42 riunosk: 00:27:109 (27109|0,27109|2) -
08:42 riunosk: wrong snapping
08:42 riunosk: should move it 1 bar up at 1/6
08:43 Symacon: just to be clear
08:43 Symacon: it is on the red line 4 u right
08:43 riunosk: yes
08:43 Symacon: ok
08:43 riunosk: 00:27:263 (27263|1,27417|1,27570|1,27724|1) - anchoring
08:43 riunosk: try avoiding this as well
08:43 riunosk: its unnecessary
08:43 Symacon: ah
08:43 riunosk: 00:27:570 (27570|0,27570|3,27570|1,27570|2) - imo i dont see why this should be 4 notes
08:43 riunosk: the crash isnt that strong
08:44 riunosk: or cymbal
08:44 riunosk: w/e
08:44 Symacon: so u propose triple?
08:44 riunosk: yea
08:44 riunosk: you can remove the note at 2
08:44 riunosk: to fix both issues ^
08:44 riunosk: 00:30:032 - inconsistent patterning
08:44 Symacon: ok
08:44 Symacon: wdym
08:44 Symacon: exactly
08:45 riunosk: first one is a quad
08:45 riunosk: which i assume now is a triple
08:45 riunosk: then the second one is suddenly a double
08:45 Symacon: 00:30:032 (30032|2,30032|1) -
08:45 riunosk: when it has similar sound
08:45 Symacon: at here?
08:45 riunosk: yes
08:45 Symacon: its a double
08:45 riunosk: yea
08:45 riunosk: it is a double
08:46 riunosk: 00:27:570 - but you charted that sound as a triple here
08:46 riunosk: so its inconsistent
08:46 Symacon: ok thatts what i was thinking you meant
08:46 riunosk: ah
08:46 Symacon: so do i just make that triple or next one as well?
08:46 riunosk: just make them all triples
08:46 riunosk: rmb to avoid anchoring
08:46 Symacon: gotcha
08:47 riunosk: fyi general anchoring
08:47 riunosk: is at least 4 notes
08:47 riunosk: 3 is acceptable
08:47 Symacon: alright
08:47 riunosk: 00:29:109 - what is this stream section for
08:47 riunosk: since your streams so far are following the piano
08:48 riunosk: i dont see why this should be here
08:48 Symacon: eh my ears are broken
08:48 riunosk: 00:30:647 - this is your patterning i suppose
08:48 riunosk: xd
08:48 Symacon: o
08:48 riunosk: ok i just noticed something
08:48 riunosk: that i missed
08:48 riunosk: its a pretty bad problem
08:49 riunosk: 00:24:186 (24186|0,24186|1,24186|3) - snares here are triples
08:49 riunosk: 00:22:955 - 00:23:417 - 00:24:801 -
08:49 riunosk: suddenly they're doubles?
08:49 Symacon: oh
08:49 riunosk: 00:24:647 (24647|1,24647|2,24647|0) - this kick should be a double
08:49 riunosk: 00:26:186 (26186|0) - you can remove this
08:49 riunosk: only a kick
08:50 riunosk: 00:26:494 (26494|2,26570|3,26647|2,26647|0) - its a kick-kick-snare combo thingy
08:50 Symacon: whaat about the one before that
08:50 riunosk: which one
08:50 Symacon: 00:25:878 (25878|3,25878|0,25878|2) -
08:50 Symacon: nvm
08:50 riunosk: lol
08:50 Symacon: its different
08:50 riunosk: thats a snare
08:50 Symacon: my ears
08:50 riunosk: xd
08:50 Symacon: r defective
08:50 riunosk: just remember the sounds for the track
08:51 riunosk: what the kicks and snares sound like
08:51 riunosk: then its easier to chart
08:51 Symacon: ya
08:51 riunosk: anyway
08:51 riunosk: 00:26:494 -
08:51 riunosk: make this a mini jumptrill
08:51 riunosk: kick kick snare
08:51 Symacon: what is jumptrill exactly
08:51 Symacon: im noob
08:52 Symacon: i dont have good mania vocabulary
08:52 riunosk: 00:26:494 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706659
08:52 riunosk: do you know what jumps are
08:52 Symacon: did you change it to that
08:52 riunosk: for 26:494 yes
08:52 Symacon: ok
08:52 riunosk: best possible patterning i can come up with
08:52 Symacon: i see what u mean now
08:52 riunosk: and its very playable
08:53 riunosk: 00:27:263 (27263|1) - make this a double as well
08:53 Symacon: and i have others in map so its good
08:53 riunosk: wot?
08:53 Symacon: the jumptrill thing
08:53 riunosk: o
08:53 riunosk: ok
08:53 riunosk: anyway i wont go too much into the kick snare mapping
08:54 Symacon: ya ill look into it again afterwards
08:54 riunosk: that you can probably find them all yourself
08:54 riunosk: 00:36:570 - missing note
08:54 Symacon: well i wouldnt count on that but i can try lol
08:54 riunosk: its better to learn the basics the hard way i guess
08:54 Symacon: fixed
08:54 riunosk: so you remember it by heart
08:54 Symacon: yeah
08:54 Symacon: good point
08:55 riunosk: 00:40:878 (40878|1,41032|1) -
08:55 riunosk: since your streams are following the piano
08:55 riunosk: why is this following the kicks instead
08:55 Symacon: wait
08:55 Symacon: questio
08:55 Symacon: n
08:55 riunosk: ok
08:55 Symacon: 00:39:417 (39417|1,39417|3,39494|2,39570|3,39570|0,39647|2,39724|1,39801|0,39878|1,39878|2,39878|3) -
08:55 Symacon: i feel this pattern isnt right
08:55 Symacon: some ghost notes
08:55 riunosk: 00:39:647 (39647|2,39801|0) -
08:56 riunosk: there you go
08:56 Symacon: ye ty
08:56 riunosk: 00:39:724 (39724|1) - make this a double btw
08:56 riunosk: kick
08:56 Symacon: opk
08:56 riunosk: 00:40:494 (40494|1,40494|3) - not a kick
08:56 riunosk: 00:42:032 - you can make this section a jtrill
08:57 Symacon: exactly what i was thinking just now xd
08:57 riunosk: :b
08:57 riunosk: ok
08:57 riunosk: big big problem
08:57 riunosk: 00:46:186 (46186|2,46186|3,46186|0,46340|1,46340|2,46340|3,46647|3,46647|1,46647|2,46955|1,46955|0,46955|3) -
08:57 riunosk: why are these triples in the first place
08:57 Symacon: oh dang
08:57 riunosk: im actually surprised no one spotted this
08:57 Symacon: should they be changed to sliders?
08:57 riunosk: no
08:57 riunosk: just change them to single notes
08:58 riunosk: theres no additional sound to accomodate triples here
08:58 riunosk: remember pr
08:58 riunosk: after this mod is finished and you update it
08:58 riunosk: i'll playtest it once more to confirm
08:58 riunosk: then we can finish the irc!
08:58 Symacon: sounds good C:
08:58 riunosk: 00:48:647 (48647|0,48647|3,48647|2,48801|3,48801|0,48801|1) -
08:58 riunosk: this too
08:59 Symacon: singles?
08:59 riunosk: yep
08:59 riunosk: 00:52:647 (52647|3,52647|0,52647|2,52647|1) -
08:59 riunosk: make these doubles
08:59 riunosk: 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) - following pattern for 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) -
08:59 riunosk: 00:54:186 (54186|1,54186|0) - single
08:59 Symacon: triple slider and double is pretty enuf
08:59 Symacon: ?
08:59 riunosk: yea
08:59 riunosk: no need for the quad
09:00 riunosk: 00:58:494 - pretty obvious missing notes
09:00 riunosk: 01:00:032 (60032|1) - you can remove this
09:00 riunosk: 01:03:263 - missing notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:00 Symacon: at 58;494
09:00 Symacon: should i put 1/4 stair
09:00 riunosk: if you can
09:01 riunosk: 00:58:340 (58340|0) - ghost note
09:01 Symacon: fixed all so far
09:01 riunosk: 00:56:801 (56801|3) - remove this and change it to 2 1/4 LNs
09:01 riunosk: i missed this one
09:01 riunosk: well
09:01 riunosk: basically for this section
09:01 Symacon: how do you mean
09:02 riunosk: 00:56:647 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706722
09:02 Symacon: well theres a problem
09:02 riunosk: whats the problem
09:02 Symacon: i undid some stuff
09:02 riunosk: o _o
09:03 riunosk: what did u undo
09:03 riunosk: specifically
09:03 Symacon: im looking
09:04 Symacon: pretty far back but i can just fix it again
09:04 Symacon: nbd right?
09:04 riunosk: i guess
09:04 riunosk: well basically for the entire section that we're at
09:04 riunosk: just listen at 50% again
09:04 riunosk: and pay close attention to the sound
09:04 riunosk: 00:58:955 (58955|1) - move this to 1
09:04 riunosk: the patterning would be a lot better
09:05 riunosk: 01:10:494 (70494|2) - ghost note
09:05 Symacon: ok
09:05 riunosk: 01:13:994 (73994|0) - i think you can end this ln at the red bar
09:05 riunosk: 01:14:340 (74340|3) - what is this for
09:06 Symacon: i c
09:06 Symacon: deleted the ln
09:06 riunosk: 01:18:186 (78186|2) -
09:06 riunosk: can be deleted
09:06 riunosk: no need for double
09:06 Symacon: ok
09:07 riunosk: wait
09:07 riunosk: actually
09:07 riunosk: hold that
09:07 riunosk: doubles should be fine
09:07 riunosk: since 01:20:032 (80032|3,80032|1,80340|2,80340|0) -
09:07 riunosk: 01:20:647 (80647|1,80647|2,80647|3,80955|3,80955|1,80955|0) - make these doubles
09:07 Symacon: fixed
09:08 riunosk: 01:28:417 (88417|2) - ghost note
09:08 riunosk: 01:30:417 (90417|3) - ^
09:08 riunosk: 01:30:724 (90724|1) - ^
09:08 riunosk: oh mai
09:08 riunosk: 01:31:494 (91494|2) - ^
09:08 Symacon: i see the flaws now
09:08 riunosk: 01:32:570 (92570|2) -
09:08 riunosk: yea
09:08 riunosk: quite a lot of ghost notes
09:08 riunosk: and inconsistency
09:09 riunosk: 01:31:570 - what happened to your kicks and snares?!
09:09 riunosk: its like it just disappeared
09:09 Symacon: hm
09:10 Symacon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706770
09:10 Symacon: is this fine
09:10 riunosk: 01:32:340 -
09:10 riunosk: add double
09:10 riunosk: 01:38:801 (98801|1,98955|1,99109|1,99263|1,99417|1) - anchor
09:11 riunosk: 01:39:570 (99570|2,99724|2,99878|2) - unnecessary
09:11 riunosk: 01:40:801 (100801|3,100955|3,101109|3) - ^
09:11 Symacon: fixed
09:11 riunosk: 01:41:417 -
09:11 riunosk: listen at 50% and fix all the issues you know here
09:11 riunosk: 01:44:494 (104494|2,104647|2) - not needed
09:12 riunosk: 01:52:109 - this stream shouldnt be here just finish up the sounds you were charting
09:12 Symacon: what do u propose there
09:12 riunosk: at 1:41?
09:12 Symacon: 1:44
09:13 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706789
09:13 riunosk: god damn
09:13 riunosk: i already love this a lot
09:13 riunosk: the track that is
09:13 Symacon: the song?
09:14 Symacon: ya
09:14 Symacon: its gud
09:14 riunosk: quite far back but
09:14 riunosk: 00:26:494 (26494|2,26647|2,26801|2,26955|2,27109|2) -
09:14 riunosk: unneeded
09:14 riunosk: 00:29:263 (29263|0,29417|0,29570|0,29724|0,29878|0) -
09:15 Symacon: fixed
09:15 Symacon: both
09:15 riunosk: alright
09:15 riunosk: all's good?
09:15 Symacon: yes
09:15 riunosk: alright
09:15 Symacon: should i go back and fix the other stuff
09:15 Symacon: that i undid
09:15 riunosk: dont forget the ending
09:16 Symacon: it seems i didnt undo most at all
09:16 riunosk: hm
09:17 riunosk: thats good then
09:17 Symacon: just checking
09:18 Symacon: ok
09:18 Symacon: should i upload it then you test?
09:18 riunosk: yea
09:19 Symacon: done
09:19 Symacon: pls tell me if i missed something u said
09:19 riunosk: yay
09:19 riunosk: okay
09:19 riunosk: time to hit 990 again
09:19 Symacon: lol
09:20 Symacon: ya i noticed some stuff i undid and didnt fix
09:21 Symacon: u can just upload it on site and ill just go back and fix em
09:21 riunosk: mm
09:21 riunosk: oh fuk
09:21 riunosk: i didnt SS
09:21 riunosk: D:<
09:21 Symacon: nisu
09:21 Symacon: 2 200s
09:22 riunosk: i got more stuff i founnd ;c
09:22 riunosk: 00:09:417 (9417|3) -
09:22 riunosk: why is this here
09:22 Symacon: ok
09:22 Symacon: lol hm
09:22 Symacon: been there since i first mapped it
09:22 Symacon: idk why i havent looked at that
09:22 riunosk: 00:22:955 - seems like snares are still doubles here
09:22 Symacon: the dun sound
09:22 Symacon: like
09:22 Symacon: u kno
09:23 riunosk: 00:27:724 (27724|0,27724|2,27724|3) - change to double at 12
09:23 riunosk: :p
09:23 riunosk: 00:34:186 (34186|0) - ghost ln
09:23 Symacon: ok
09:23 riunosk: 00:37:417 (37417|1,37878|0,38340|2) - ^
09:23 riunosk: 00:46:186 (46186|2,46186|3,46186|0,46340|3,46340|2,46340|1,46647|2,46647|1,46647|3,46955|0,46955|3,46955|1) - these are still triples lol
09:24 riunosk: 00:48:647 (48647|2) - move to 2 for pr
09:24 riunosk: 00:52:647 (52647|3) - i do recall suggesting this to be a double
09:24 Symacon: yes
09:24 Symacon: fixed all
09:24 riunosk: 01:23:417 (83417|2,83417|3) - why is this a d ouble
09:25 riunosk: 01:47:263 (107263|2) - ghost note
09:26 Symacon: fixed
09:26 riunosk: all thats left
09:26 riunosk: is your kick and snares
09:26 Symacon: yay
09:26 riunosk: rest should be good
09:26 Symacon: ok well ill double check after
09:26 Symacon: is that it?
09:26 riunosk: yea
09:26 Symacon: o
09:26 Symacon: that was fast
09:27 riunosk: its not really fast
09:27 riunosk: its the normal duration
09:27 Symacon: joking
09:27 Symacon: hehe
09:27 riunosk: :e
09:27 Symacon: thanks so much
09:27 Symacon: im now 10x better mapper
09:27 riunosk: yay
09:27 riunosk: do u mind if i make a gd for that
09:27 riunosk: lolol
09:27 Symacon: omg go ahead
09:27 Symacon: i need 1
09:28 riunosk: well
09:28 riunosk: just a heads up
09:28 riunosk: im the type that maps hard stuff
09:28 riunosk: so i cant map easy stuff
09:28 Symacon: pssh
09:28 Symacon: no problem
09:28 riunosk: xd
09:28 riunosk: so for the gap
09:28 riunosk: you gotta find someone else
09:28 Symacon: i like hard stuff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
09:28 riunosk: oh ples
09:28 Symacon: ok well i can probably do it myself
09:28 Symacon: with extra effort
09:28 Symacon: cuz idk how to make flat 3 strs
09:29 riunosk: i suggest you do that then
09:29 riunosk: i named my diff pretty well i guess
09:29 Symacon: yeah
09:29 *riunosk is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/585610 ARForest - Altros [THIS SONG IS FKING GOOD]]
09:29 Symacon: lolol
09:29 Symacon: perfect
09:29 riunosk: im pretty free now
09:29 riunosk: so i can probably finish in a hour or so
09:29 Symacon: oh can u post the mod to forum so i can check stuffs
09:29 Symacon: cuz scrolling in this chat is ridiculous
09:30 riunosk: sure
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

riunosk wrote:

kudosu is good yes yes give some kudosu is yes yes good very
08:26 Symacon: hey
08:26 riunosk: hello
08:26 Symacon: you still up for IRC ?
08:26 riunosk: yep
08:26 Symacon: :D
08:26 riunosk: aight
08:26 Symacon: so like you said we just talk ingame?
08:26 riunosk: yea
08:26 riunosk: basically live modding
08:26 Symacon: ok c00l
08:26 *riunosk is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1240445 ARForest - Altros [Nature's Madness]]
08:27 Symacon: i updated it earlier
08:27 Symacon: just few patterns
08:27 riunosk: hmm okay
08:27 riunosk: are you intending to rank this with 2 diffs?
08:27 Symacon: idk im debating whether i should make another
08:27 riunosk: i suggest you do
08:28 Symacon: like low 3 star?
08:28 riunosk: uh
08:28 Symacon: so its in middle
08:28 riunosk: well you have your gap
08:28 Symacon: cause rn theres huge gap
08:28 riunosk: 1.5*>
08:28 riunosk: needs a diff to close it
08:28 riunosk: btw 00:02:955 (2955|2,3109|3) - move left twice for pitch
08:28 Symacon: ya ill probably work on that soon
08:28 riunosk: this is lower pitched
08:29 Symacon: o
08:29 Symacon: i see
08:29 riunosk: 00:04:801 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706519
08:29 riunosk: suggested pattern for pitch
08:29 riunosk: ^ pretty accurate
08:30 Symacon: ok ya
08:30 riunosk: just a little bit of info
08:30 Symacon: thats gud
08:30 riunosk: my modding style is based mainly on PR and playability
08:30 Symacon: im new to this so i didnt even think about that hehe
08:30 riunosk: aaa
08:30 riunosk: no worries
08:30 riunosk: everyone's gotta start somewhere
08:30 Symacon: tru
08:31 riunosk: hm
08:31 riunosk: im really liking this track already
08:31 riunosk: xd
08:31 Symacon: right
08:31 riunosk: also
08:31 Symacon: when i first heard it i knew right away
08:31 riunosk: ye
08:31 riunosk: time to map this shet
08:31 Symacon: yes
08:31 riunosk: 00:07:417 - missing note
08:31 Symacon: !
08:31 riunosk: this missing note is very obvious
08:31 riunosk: why was it left out tho
08:32 Symacon: slipped right through my fingers
08:32 Symacon: ill be more careful next time
08:32 riunosk: :e
08:32 riunosk: aight
08:32 riunosk: so far
08:32 riunosk: your chart seems to have a bit of a pr issue
08:32 Symacon: sorry pr?
08:32 riunosk: pitch relevancy
08:33 riunosk: 00:07:878 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706545
08:33 riunosk: i'll assume the missing note is fixed
08:33 Symacon: yes
08:33 riunosk: 00:08:340 (8340|1,8340|0) - why is this a double
08:33 Symacon: hm
08:33 Symacon: wow
08:34 riunosk: o _o?
08:34 Symacon: i changed it
08:34 riunosk: into?
08:34 Symacon: a single
08:34 riunosk: okay
08:34 Symacon: or should i delete it
08:35 riunosk: uh no
08:35 riunosk: theres a sound for it
08:35 riunosk: and it continues your patterning
08:35 Symacon: what about right below it as well?
08:35 riunosk: wdym?
08:36 Symacon: the same sound for the note that was above the double
08:36 Symacon: is below it as well
08:36 riunosk: uh
08:36 riunosk: can you timestamp
08:36 riunosk: im a bit lost here
08:36 Symacon: yea
08:36 Symacon: np
08:36 Symacon: 8:186
08:36 riunosk: from what i see
08:36 riunosk: its a single note
08:36 riunosk: and its a LN
08:37 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706564
08:37 riunosk: did you change something?
08:37 Symacon: no i was just asking if i should put a note there
08:37 riunosk: oh
08:37 riunosk: hm
08:37 riunosk: im not sure what the single notes you put so far are following
08:37 riunosk: sometimes it follows a certain sound
08:37 riunosk: then it stops
08:38 Symacon: hm
08:38 riunosk: basically ghost notes
08:38 Symacon: so i should fix the consistency
08:38 riunosk: yes
08:38 riunosk: consistency is important
08:39 Symacon: ok i fixed the singles at beginning to follow just 1 sound
08:39 riunosk: okay good
08:39 Symacon: 00:08:494 (8494|3) -
08:39 Symacon: that sound
08:39 riunosk: hi hats?
08:39 Symacon: idk what its called xd
08:40 riunosk: meh
08:40 riunosk: w/e
08:40 riunosk: anyway
08:40 riunosk: serious issue imo
08:40 Symacon: lets continue :3
08:40 riunosk: 00:22:340 (22340|2,22417|2) -
08:40 riunosk: try not to ever do this
08:40 Symacon: i couldve sworn i deleted that
08:40 riunosk: well
08:40 riunosk: it magically reappeared
08:40 Symacon: hm
08:40 Symacon: yes
08:40 Symacon: ok i fixed that
08:40 riunosk: the next section
08:41 riunosk: (im gonna be blunt)
08:41 riunosk: has a shitton of ghost notes
08:41 Symacon: with the 1/4?
08:41 Symacon: stuff
08:41 riunosk: basically the notes itself
08:41 riunosk: some dont follow any sound
08:41 riunosk: 00:24:417 (24417|2) -
08:41 riunosk: like this
08:42 Symacon: o
08:42 riunosk: 00:26:263 (26263|1) - this too
08:42 riunosk: 00:27:109 (27109|0,27109|2) -
08:42 riunosk: wrong snapping
08:42 riunosk: should move it 1 bar up at 1/6
08:43 Symacon: just to be clear
08:43 Symacon: it is on the red line 4 u right
08:43 riunosk: yes
08:43 Symacon: ok
08:43 riunosk: 00:27:263 (27263|1,27417|1,27570|1,27724|1) - anchoring
08:43 riunosk: try avoiding this as well
08:43 riunosk: its unnecessary
08:43 Symacon: ah
08:43 riunosk: 00:27:570 (27570|0,27570|3,27570|1,27570|2) - imo i dont see why this should be 4 notes
08:43 riunosk: the crash isnt that strong
08:44 riunosk: or cymbal
08:44 riunosk: w/e
08:44 Symacon: so u propose triple?
08:44 riunosk: yea
08:44 riunosk: you can remove the note at 2
08:44 riunosk: to fix both issues ^
08:44 riunosk: 00:30:032 - inconsistent patterning
08:44 Symacon: ok
08:44 Symacon: wdym
08:44 Symacon: exactly
08:45 riunosk: first one is a quad
08:45 riunosk: which i assume now is a triple
08:45 riunosk: then the second one is suddenly a double
08:45 Symacon: 00:30:032 (30032|2,30032|1) -
08:45 riunosk: when it has similar sound
08:45 Symacon: at here?
08:45 riunosk: yes
08:45 Symacon: its a double
08:45 riunosk: yea
08:45 riunosk: it is a double
08:46 riunosk: 00:27:570 - but you charted that sound as a triple here
08:46 riunosk: so its inconsistent
08:46 Symacon: ok thatts what i was thinking you meant
08:46 riunosk: ah
08:46 Symacon: so do i just make that triple or next one as well?
08:46 riunosk: just make them all triples
08:46 riunosk: rmb to avoid anchoring
08:46 Symacon: gotcha
08:47 riunosk: fyi general anchoring
08:47 riunosk: is at least 4 notes
08:47 riunosk: 3 is acceptable
08:47 Symacon: alright
08:47 riunosk: 00:29:109 - what is this stream section for
08:47 riunosk: since your streams so far are following the piano
08:48 riunosk: i dont see why this should be here
08:48 Symacon: eh my ears are broken
08:48 riunosk: 00:30:647 - this is your patterning i suppose
08:48 riunosk: xd
08:48 Symacon: o
08:48 riunosk: ok i just noticed something
08:48 riunosk: that i missed
08:48 riunosk: its a pretty bad problem
08:49 riunosk: 00:24:186 (24186|0,24186|1,24186|3) - snares here are triples
08:49 riunosk: 00:22:955 - 00:23:417 - 00:24:801 -
08:49 riunosk: suddenly they're doubles?
08:49 Symacon: oh
08:49 riunosk: 00:24:647 (24647|1,24647|2,24647|0) - this kick should be a double
08:49 riunosk: 00:26:186 (26186|0) - you can remove this
08:49 riunosk: only a kick
08:50 riunosk: 00:26:494 (26494|2,26570|3,26647|2,26647|0) - its a kick-kick-snare combo thingy
08:50 Symacon: whaat about the one before that
08:50 riunosk: which one
08:50 Symacon: 00:25:878 (25878|3,25878|0,25878|2) -
08:50 Symacon: nvm
08:50 riunosk: lol
08:50 Symacon: its different
08:50 riunosk: thats a snare
08:50 Symacon: my ears
08:50 riunosk: xd
08:50 Symacon: r defective
08:50 riunosk: just remember the sounds for the track
08:51 riunosk: what the kicks and snares sound like
08:51 riunosk: then its easier to chart
08:51 Symacon: ya
08:51 riunosk: anyway
08:51 riunosk: 00:26:494 -
08:51 riunosk: make this a mini jumptrill
08:51 riunosk: kick kick snare
08:51 Symacon: what is jumptrill exactly
08:51 Symacon: im noob
08:52 Symacon: i dont have good mania vocabulary
08:52 riunosk: 00:26:494 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706659
08:52 riunosk: do you know what jumps are
08:52 Symacon: did you change it to that
08:52 riunosk: for 26:494 yes
08:52 Symacon: ok
08:52 riunosk: best possible patterning i can come up with
08:52 Symacon: i see what u mean now
08:52 riunosk: and its very playable
08:53 riunosk: 00:27:263 (27263|1) - make this a double as well
08:53 Symacon: and i have others in map so its good
08:53 riunosk: wot?
08:53 Symacon: the jumptrill thing
08:53 riunosk: o
08:53 riunosk: ok
08:53 riunosk: anyway i wont go too much into the kick snare mapping
08:54 Symacon: ya ill look into it again afterwards
08:54 riunosk: that you can probably find them all yourself
08:54 riunosk: 00:36:570 - missing note
08:54 Symacon: well i wouldnt count on that but i can try lol
08:54 riunosk: its better to learn the basics the hard way i guess
08:54 Symacon: fixed
08:54 riunosk: so you remember it by heart
08:54 Symacon: yeah
08:54 Symacon: good point
08:55 riunosk: 00:40:878 (40878|1,41032|1) -
08:55 riunosk: since your streams are following the piano
08:55 riunosk: why is this following the kicks instead
08:55 Symacon: wait
08:55 Symacon: questio
08:55 Symacon: n
08:55 riunosk: ok
08:55 Symacon: 00:39:417 (39417|1,39417|3,39494|2,39570|3,39570|0,39647|2,39724|1,39801|0,39878|1,39878|2,39878|3) -
08:55 Symacon: i feel this pattern isnt right
08:55 Symacon: some ghost notes
08:55 riunosk: 00:39:647 (39647|2,39801|0) -
08:56 riunosk: there you go
08:56 Symacon: ye ty
08:56 riunosk: 00:39:724 (39724|1) - make this a double btw
08:56 riunosk: kick
08:56 Symacon: opk
08:56 riunosk: 00:40:494 (40494|1,40494|3) - not a kick
08:56 riunosk: 00:42:032 - you can make this section a jtrill
08:57 Symacon: exactly what i was thinking just now xd
08:57 riunosk: :b
08:57 riunosk: ok
08:57 riunosk: big big problem
08:57 riunosk: 00:46:186 (46186|2,46186|3,46186|0,46340|1,46340|2,46340|3,46647|3,46647|1,46647|2,46955|1,46955|0,46955|3) -
08:57 riunosk: why are these triples in the first place
08:57 Symacon: oh dang
08:57 riunosk: im actually surprised no one spotted this
08:57 Symacon: should they be changed to sliders?
08:57 riunosk: no
08:57 riunosk: just change them to single notes
08:58 riunosk: theres no additional sound to accomodate triples here
08:58 riunosk: remember pr
08:58 riunosk: after this mod is finished and you update it
08:58 riunosk: i'll playtest it once more to confirm
08:58 riunosk: then we can finish the irc!
08:58 Symacon: sounds good C:
08:58 riunosk: 00:48:647 (48647|0,48647|3,48647|2,48801|3,48801|0,48801|1) -
08:58 riunosk: this too
08:59 Symacon: singles?
08:59 riunosk: yep
08:59 riunosk: 00:52:647 (52647|3,52647|0,52647|2,52647|1) -
08:59 riunosk: make these doubles
08:59 riunosk: 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) - following pattern for 00:49:724 (49724|1,49724|2,50186|0,50186|3) -
08:59 riunosk: 00:54:186 (54186|1,54186|0) - single
08:59 Symacon: triple slider and double is pretty enuf
08:59 Symacon: ?
08:59 riunosk: yea
08:59 riunosk: no need for the quad
09:00 riunosk: 00:58:494 - pretty obvious missing notes
09:00 riunosk: 01:00:032 (60032|1) - you can remove this
09:00 riunosk: 01:03:263 - missing notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:00 Symacon: at 58;494
09:00 Symacon: should i put 1/4 stair
09:00 riunosk: if you can
09:01 riunosk: 00:58:340 (58340|0) - ghost note
09:01 Symacon: fixed all so far
09:01 riunosk: 00:56:801 (56801|3) - remove this and change it to 2 1/4 LNs
09:01 riunosk: i missed this one
09:01 riunosk: well
09:01 riunosk: basically for this section
09:01 Symacon: how do you mean
09:02 riunosk: 00:56:647 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706722
09:02 Symacon: well theres a problem
09:02 riunosk: whats the problem
09:02 Symacon: i undid some stuff
09:02 riunosk: o _o
09:03 riunosk: what did u undo
09:03 riunosk: specifically
09:03 Symacon: im looking
09:04 Symacon: pretty far back but i can just fix it again
09:04 Symacon: nbd right?
09:04 riunosk: i guess
09:04 riunosk: well basically for the entire section that we're at
09:04 riunosk: just listen at 50% again
09:04 riunosk: and pay close attention to the sound
09:04 riunosk: 00:58:955 (58955|1) - move this to 1
09:04 riunosk: the patterning would be a lot better
09:05 riunosk: 01:10:494 (70494|2) - ghost note
09:05 Symacon: ok
09:05 riunosk: 01:13:994 (73994|0) - i think you can end this ln at the red bar
09:05 riunosk: 01:14:340 (74340|3) - what is this for
09:06 Symacon: i c
09:06 Symacon: deleted the ln
09:06 riunosk: 01:18:186 (78186|2) -
09:06 riunosk: can be deleted
09:06 riunosk: no need for double
09:06 Symacon: ok
09:07 riunosk: wait
09:07 riunosk: actually
09:07 riunosk: hold that
09:07 riunosk: doubles should be fine
09:07 riunosk: since 01:20:032 (80032|3,80032|1,80340|2,80340|0) -
09:07 riunosk: 01:20:647 (80647|1,80647|2,80647|3,80955|3,80955|1,80955|0) - make these doubles
09:07 Symacon: fixed
09:08 riunosk: 01:28:417 (88417|2) - ghost note
09:08 riunosk: 01:30:417 (90417|3) - ^
09:08 riunosk: 01:30:724 (90724|1) - ^
09:08 riunosk: oh mai
09:08 riunosk: 01:31:494 (91494|2) - ^
09:08 Symacon: i see the flaws now
09:08 riunosk: 01:32:570 (92570|2) -
09:08 riunosk: yea
09:08 riunosk: quite a lot of ghost notes
09:08 riunosk: and inconsistency
09:09 riunosk: 01:31:570 - what happened to your kicks and snares?!
09:09 riunosk: its like it just disappeared
09:09 Symacon: hm
09:10 Symacon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706770
09:10 Symacon: is this fine
09:10 riunosk: 01:32:340 -
09:10 riunosk: add double
09:10 riunosk: 01:38:801 (98801|1,98955|1,99109|1,99263|1,99417|1) - anchor
09:11 riunosk: 01:39:570 (99570|2,99724|2,99878|2) - unnecessary
09:11 riunosk: 01:40:801 (100801|3,100955|3,101109|3) - ^
09:11 Symacon: fixed
09:11 riunosk: 01:41:417 -
09:11 riunosk: listen at 50% and fix all the issues you know here
09:11 riunosk: 01:44:494 (104494|2,104647|2) - not needed
09:12 riunosk: 01:52:109 - this stream shouldnt be here just finish up the sounds you were charting
09:12 Symacon: what do u propose there
09:12 riunosk: at 1:41?
09:12 Symacon: 1:44
09:13 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7706789
09:13 riunosk: god damn
09:13 riunosk: i already love this a lot
09:13 riunosk: the track that is
09:13 Symacon: the song?
09:14 Symacon: ya
09:14 Symacon: its gud
09:14 riunosk: quite far back but
09:14 riunosk: 00:26:494 (26494|2,26647|2,26801|2,26955|2,27109|2) -
09:14 riunosk: unneeded
09:14 riunosk: 00:29:263 (29263|0,29417|0,29570|0,29724|0,29878|0) -
09:15 Symacon: fixed
09:15 Symacon: both
09:15 riunosk: alright
09:15 riunosk: all's good?
09:15 Symacon: yes
09:15 riunosk: alright
09:15 Symacon: should i go back and fix the other stuff
09:15 Symacon: that i undid
09:15 riunosk: dont forget the ending
09:16 Symacon: it seems i didnt undo most at all
09:16 riunosk: hm
09:17 riunosk: thats good then
09:17 Symacon: just checking
09:18 Symacon: ok
09:18 Symacon: should i upload it then you test?
09:18 riunosk: yea
09:19 Symacon: done
09:19 Symacon: pls tell me if i missed something u said
09:19 riunosk: yay
09:19 riunosk: okay
09:19 riunosk: time to hit 990 again
09:19 Symacon: lol
09:20 Symacon: ya i noticed some stuff i undid and didnt fix
09:21 Symacon: u can just upload it on site and ill just go back and fix em
09:21 riunosk: mm
09:21 riunosk: oh fuk
09:21 riunosk: i didnt SS
09:21 riunosk: D:<
09:21 Symacon: nisu
09:21 Symacon: 2 200s
09:22 riunosk: i got more stuff i founnd ;c
09:22 riunosk: 00:09:417 (9417|3) -
09:22 riunosk: why is this here
09:22 Symacon: ok
09:22 Symacon: lol hm
09:22 Symacon: been there since i first mapped it
09:22 Symacon: idk why i havent looked at that
09:22 riunosk: 00:22:955 - seems like snares are still doubles here
09:22 Symacon: the dun sound
09:22 Symacon: like
09:22 Symacon: u kno
09:23 riunosk: 00:27:724 (27724|0,27724|2,27724|3) - change to double at 12
09:23 riunosk: :p
09:23 riunosk: 00:34:186 (34186|0) - ghost ln
09:23 Symacon: ok
09:23 riunosk: 00:37:417 (37417|1,37878|0,38340|2) - ^
09:23 riunosk: 00:46:186 (46186|2,46186|3,46186|0,46340|3,46340|2,46340|1,46647|2,46647|1,46647|3,46955|0,46955|3,46955|1) - these are still triples lol
09:24 riunosk: 00:48:647 (48647|2) - move to 2 for pr
09:24 riunosk: 00:52:647 (52647|3) - i do recall suggesting this to be a double
09:24 Symacon: yes
09:24 Symacon: fixed all
09:24 riunosk: 01:23:417 (83417|2,83417|3) - why is this a d ouble
09:25 riunosk: 01:47:263 (107263|2) - ghost note
09:26 Symacon: fixed
09:26 riunosk: all thats left
09:26 riunosk: is your kick and snares
09:26 Symacon: yay
09:26 riunosk: rest should be good
09:26 Symacon: ok well ill double check after
09:26 Symacon: is that it?
09:26 riunosk: yea
09:26 Symacon: o
09:26 Symacon: that was fast
09:27 riunosk: its not really fast
09:27 riunosk: its the normal duration
09:27 Symacon: joking
09:27 Symacon: hehe
09:27 riunosk: :e
09:27 Symacon: thanks so much
09:27 Symacon: im now 10x better mapper
09:27 riunosk: yay
09:27 riunosk: do u mind if i make a gd for that
09:27 riunosk: lolol
09:27 Symacon: omg go ahead
09:27 Symacon: i need 1
09:28 riunosk: well
09:28 riunosk: just a heads up
09:28 riunosk: im the type that maps hard stuff
09:28 riunosk: so i cant map easy stuff
09:28 Symacon: pssh
09:28 Symacon: no problem
09:28 riunosk: xd
09:28 riunosk: so for the gap
09:28 riunosk: you gotta find someone else
09:28 Symacon: i like hard stuff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
09:28 riunosk: oh ples
09:28 Symacon: ok well i can probably do it myself
09:28 Symacon: with extra effort
09:28 Symacon: cuz idk how to make flat 3 strs
09:29 riunosk: i suggest you do that then
09:29 riunosk: i named my diff pretty well i guess
09:29 Symacon: yeah
09:29 *riunosk is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/585610 ARForest - Altros [THIS SONG IS FKING GOOD]]
09:29 Symacon: lolol
09:29 Symacon: perfect
09:29 riunosk: im pretty free now
09:29 riunosk: so i can probably finish in a hour or so
09:29 Symacon: oh can u post the mod to forum so i can check stuffs
09:29 Symacon: cuz scrolling in this chat is ridiculous
09:30 riunosk: sure
thank u senpai 8-)
Adot
Okay, sorry for late. well.. many changes since your request. but i will explain this before i go to pattern

[General]
If you want to rank this. You should match the point with Official Ranking Criteria https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
I will mention the Unrankable stuff here
  1. In spread meapset. The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars. Even though you have "Normal", but if your "Normal" is higher than 2*, it is unrankable.
  2. You must add tags in your map (Apply in all diffs too). And Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset.
And it's some suggestion from me. Not even categorized as Ranking Criteria but you must consider it.
  1. The difficulty spread should be linear and reasonable. It means that a each difficulty has comparable gap in SR between each other. For otherwise, look at this https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appr ... y_elements
  2. Put kiai section in each difficulty. It's important because it will give an impression when player comes at interesting spot/chorus in your difficulty. And Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties especially the remarkable one. But If you have a GD from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.
Well.. that's the general thing for rn
Let's jump to pattern

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  • i won't explain all things since there are too many
    [Normal]
    Well, this SR is higher than 2* so it's unrankable. But you can avoid things and change the pattern.
    And apply the sense point if you find the similar point at the next pattern (if you apply it) don't blame me if i'm going nazi
  1. 00:22:340 - there's snareroll sound in this section. Try to add single LN until 00:22:647 -
  2. 00:22:647 (22647|1,22955|2,22955|3,23263|1,23570|0,23570|1) - well man.. this pattern doesn't make sense! Somehow i accept this double 00:22:955 (22955|3,22955|2) - because there's snare sound and the sound is audible than the kick. But when jumping to 00:23:263 (23263|1,23570|0,23570|1) - it ruins everything. The snare sounded there 00:23:417 - but you skip it and put double on 00:23:570 - . Well, fix this issue with deleting 00:23:263 (23263|1) - and move this 00:23:570 (23570|0,23570|1) - to 00:23:417 - . apply the similar thing in the next pattern so i won't have to mention it again lol
  3. 00:23:417 (23417|1,23878|1,24494|1,25109|1) - well this kinda unbalance for hand. Try to rearrange it (even you have to keep it due to pitch. But you must consider the playable things. If it's too unbalanced it will not make a flow. And this is important difficult because it is the lowest. So many newbies will come to see this map. my suggestion 00:23:878 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7709999
  4. 00:28:801 (28801|2,28801|3,29109|1,29417|2,29417|1,29724|3) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....... the double and kick are reversed. 00:28:801 - this one should be single due to kick, 00:29:109 - and it should be double due to snare and so on. And there is a cymbal sound there 00:30:032 - , you can add 1 note for this because it is audible.
  5. 00:30:801 - as my explanation before.. this one should be double and you can change one of the note to be hold and put an end in 00:31:263 -
  6. 00:31:570 (31570|2) - add 1 note for snare sound
  7. 00:32:186 (32186|2) - remove this because it doesn't make sense
  8. 00:31:570 (31570|2,31878|2) - avoid this kind of jack in normal. it will ruin the flow imo
  9. 00:44:801 (44801|3,44801|0) - the LN should end at 00:45:109 - if you hear intensely u will understand. this one too 00:47:263 (47263|2,47263|1) - , should end at white tick and the next pattern u u'll meet
  10. 00:54:032 (54032|0) - and 00:55:878 (55878|0) - what do you follow? this one LN doesn't stand to anything in the instrument. if you want to follow the violin, this LN is not a good way. Sure, put LN right next to the pitch so it will be playable and does make a flow
  11. this one just too right-sided..

well.. i cant explain another diffs because i'm busy with anything. but i hope this is enough. take a lesson for everything modders gave to you.
try to analyze some ranked maps and learn their patterning and flow. if you do it you will have a more knowledge. i hope so

well.. sorry, and thanks
riunosk
http://puu.sh/v5B9S/6ce851bdf9.osu
quick self mod, noticed some missing notes
riunosk

Adot wrote:

but if your "Normal" is higher than 2*, it is unrankable.

im pretty sure thats not the case
Topic Starter
Cataclysm

Adot wrote:

Okay, sorry for late. well.. many changes since your request. but i will explain this before i go to pattern

[General]
If you want to rank this. You should match the point with Official Ranking Criteria https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
I will mention the Unrankable stuff here
  1. In spread meapset. The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars. Even though you have "Normal", but if your "Normal" is higher than 2*, it is unrankable.
  2. You must add tags in your map (Apply in all diffs too). And Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset.
And it's some suggestion from me. Not even categorized as Ranking Criteria but you must consider it.
  1. The difficulty spread should be linear and reasonable. It means that a each difficulty has comparable gap in SR between each other. For otherwise, look at this https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appr ... y_elements
  2. Put kiai section in each difficulty. It's important because it will give an impression when player comes at interesting spot/chorus in your difficulty. And Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties especially the remarkable one. But If you have a GD from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.
Well.. that's the general thing for rn
Let's jump to pattern

Click

  • i won't explain all things since there are too many
    [Normal]
    Well, this SR is higher than 2* so it's unrankable. But you can avoid things and change the pattern.
    And apply the sense point if you find the similar point at the next pattern (if you apply it) don't blame me if i'm going nazi
  1. 00:22:340 - there's snareroll sound in this section. Try to add single LN until 00:22:647 -
  2. 00:22:647 (22647|1,22955|2,22955|3,23263|1,23570|0,23570|1) - well man.. this pattern doesn't make sense! Somehow i accept this double 00:22:955 (22955|3,22955|2) - because there's snare sound and the sound is audible than the kick. But when jumping to 00:23:263 (23263|1,23570|0,23570|1) - it ruins everything. The snare sounded there 00:23:417 - but you skip it and put double on 00:23:570 - . Well, fix this issue with deleting 00:23:263 (23263|1) - and move this 00:23:570 (23570|0,23570|1) - to 00:23:417 - . apply the similar thing in the next pattern so i won't have to mention it again lol
  3. 00:23:417 (23417|1,23878|1,24494|1,25109|1) - well this kinda unbalance for hand. Try to rearrange it (even you have to keep it due to pitch. But you must consider the playable things. If it's too unbalanced it will not make a flow. And this is important difficult because it is the lowest. So many newbies will come to see this map. my suggestion 00:23:878 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7709999
  4. 00:28:801 (28801|2,28801|3,29109|1,29417|2,29417|1,29724|3) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....... the double and kick are reversed. 00:28:801 - this one should be single due to kick, 00:29:109 - and it should be double due to snare and so on. And there is a cymbal sound there 00:30:032 - , you can add 1 note for this because it is audible.
  5. 00:30:801 - as my explanation before.. this one should be double and you can change one of the note to be hold and put an end in 00:31:263 -
  6. 00:31:570 (31570|2) - add 1 note for snare sound
  7. 00:32:186 (32186|2) - remove this because it doesn't make sense
  8. 00:31:570 (31570|2,31878|2) - avoid this kind of jack in normal. it will ruin the flow imo
  9. 00:44:801 (44801|3,44801|0) - the LN should end at 00:45:109 - if you hear intensely u will understand. this one too 00:47:263 (47263|2,47263|1) - , should end at white tick and the next pattern u u'll meet
  10. 00:54:032 (54032|0) - and 00:55:878 (55878|0) - what do you follow? this one LN doesn't stand to anything in the instrument. if you want to follow the violin, this LN is not a good way. Sure, put LN right next to the pitch so it will be playable and does make a flow
  11. this one just too right-sided..

well.. i cant explain another diffs because i'm busy with anything. but i hope this is enough. take a lesson for everything modders gave to you.
try to analyze some ranked maps and learn their patterning and flow. if you do it you will have a more knowledge. i hope so

well.. sorry, and thanks
I find it hard to map lower difficulty because of all the missed sounds so thanks for your help! 8-) ( Also for the stars)
Rivals_7

Symacon wrote:

I find it hard to map lower difficulty because of all the missed sounds
There's always a way.

also what happened to moon's Easy? p/5884066
Looks like he sent you a GD but you didnt add it.

I also didnt see the reply to p/5886522 too. would like to know if you applied something from him/her. So i could decide whether their mod are worth of kudosu or not.

do remember that we had code of conduct of modding and mapping. whereas the mapper should reply to the point you agree and did not agree with the modder.
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Code_of_Conduct ... nd_Mapping
Adot

riunosk wrote:

Adot wrote:

but if your "Normal" is higher than 2*, it is unrankable.

im pretty sure thats not the case
i mean.. the lowest difficult.. in this map. Normal is the lowest difficult so i called it "Normal" but the truly means is the lowest diff

and about Normal. You can make your way to make it under 2*. But if you't still hard to get it, try to make Easy (the lower than normal) and make sure it's under 2*. Less double and stream hand. the drum there is pretty unique in early. you can put 1 note in every kick snare sound and put double on crash, i think it will work for Easy. less notes, less SR.
Janko
Hi o/

Random mod

mod
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[riu's Madness]
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00:21:417 (21417|0) - this LN overlaps with the note
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00:05:724 - hmm this sound is the same as this 00:06:032 - so I propose add one note to column 3
00:08:186 - the same situation ^
00:09:263 (9263|3,9263|1,9417|2,9570|1) - hmm maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7762872
00:10:340 - this sound is very strong. Maybe add note to column 4?
00:21:570 (21570|3,21647|2) - if you mapping for pitch you should ctrl+G it. If no 00:21:724 (21724|0,21801|1,21878|0,21955|1) - for comfortable play and ballance you can ctrl+G it.... or you can do both advice ;p
01:00:032 - idk why you don't mapping this sound
01:07:724 (67724|1) - if you mapping for pitch you can move this note to 1
01:29:340 (89340|0,89417|1,89494|0) - maybe 2 1 2?
01:46:955 (106955|1,107109|0,107417|1,107724|0) - I propose 1 2 1 2
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[Hyper]
00:00:494 - I propose small (hehe) repattering: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7763124 , http://puu.sh/vcHJv/2983e44bb3.jpg , https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7763134
00:55:724 (55724|1) - maybe to column 1 for ballance?
00:56:340 (56340|2) - to column 4 ^
01:00:340 (60340|2,60647|1) - column 4 and 1 ^
01:00:647 (60647|0,61417|3,61570|0,61724|3) - ctrl+H
01:17:570 (77570|1,77724|2,77878|1) - right side is too empty with my opinion... move this one column to the right
01:18:186 (78186|2,78340|1,78494|2) - left side ^... move this one column to the left
01:36:186 (96186|3,96263|2,96340|1,96417|2) - ctrl+H
In general there are many unbalanced moments. Try spread such notes to be evenly distributed to the left (columns 1,2) and right (3,4 columns) side.
-------------------------------------

GL
Murumoo
halo



[1/2/3/4]

riu's Madness
00:46:647 -
00:49:109 -
00:51:570 - ^ -> ctrl+h
01:38:955 -

good luck :)
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
Thanks for your help
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
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riunosk

Janko wrote:

Hi o/

Random mod

[box=mod]
|1|2|3|4|

[riu's Madness]
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00:21:417 (21417|0) - this LN overlaps with the note i dont see any overlapping?
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00:05:724 - hmm this sound is the same as this 00:06:032 - so I propose add one note to column 3 its for variation
00:08:186 - the same situation ^ pr seems to be helpful here
00:09:263 (9263|3,9263|1,9417|2,9570|1) - hmm maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7762872 applied, slightly altered
00:10:340 - this sound is very strong. Maybe add note to column 4? added
00:21:570 (21570|3,21647|2) - if you mapping for pitch you should ctrl+G it. If no 00:21:724 (21724|0,21801|1,21878|0,21955|1) - for comfortable play and ballance you can ctrl+G it.... or you can do both advice ;p this is fully intended
01:00:032 - idk why you don't mapping this sound i tried sending an update through symacon but it didnt seem to update lol
01:07:724 (67724|1) - if you mapping for pitch you can move this note to 1 applied
01:29:340 (89340|0,89417|1,89494|0) - maybe 2 1 2? seems good, applied
01:46:955 (106955|1,107109|0,107417|1,107724|0) - I propose 1 2 1 2 its pr relevent so no changes

GL
i think symacon doesnt know how GD mods work lol
thanks btw
riunosk

Murumoo wrote:

halo



[1/2/3/4]

riu's Madness
00:46:647 - i'd prefer keeping the LN count low
00:49:109 - ^
00:51:570 - ^ -> ctrl+h intended
01:38:955 - pr wise, its relevent

good luck :)
thanks for mod
update here --> http://puu.sh/vgCBj/9afa2736ed.osu
symacon for GD mods i'll have to be the one applying the mods, not you so keep that in mind
also remind me if i forget to review a mod here
Abraxos
irc for riunosks diff
21:15 riunosk: revolution deathsquad seems to be halfway done
21:15 Abraxos: nice
21:15 riunosk: 4:55 5.19
21:15 riunosk: \o/
21:15 riunosk: od9 hp9.5
21:15 Abraxos: coo
21:15 riunosk: increased by 0.1
21:15 riunosk: >:D
21:19 Abraxos: :)
21:21 riunosk: my gawd
21:21 riunosk: 97.24
21:21 riunosk: 896
21:21 riunosk: my map is raping me
21:21 Abraxos: consistency
21:22 riunosk: it has a few uncomfortable parts
21:22 riunosk: lol
21:23 riunosk: abasocks
21:24 Abraxos: ye
21:24 riunosk: want to playtest / mod my gd :d
21:25 Abraxos: sure
21:25 Abraxos: np pls
21:25 riunosk: yey
21:25 *riunosk is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255291 ARForest - Altros]
21:28 riunosk: fak he didnt update it yet!!!
21:28 Abraxos: lo
21:28 Abraxos: rip my 991 k
21:28 riunosk: that missing kick snare thing
21:28 riunosk: i added in the update
21:28 riunosk: >:C
21:28 riunosk: sed
21:28 Abraxos: it ok
21:28 Abraxos: no major changes other than that so
21:28 Abraxos: what kind of feedback you want?.
21:28 riunosk: yey
21:29 riunosk: duno
21:29 riunosk: anything u can find
21:29 Abraxos: uno
21:29 riunosk: hold on
21:29 riunosk: before u do the mod
21:29 riunosk: lemme just
21:29 riunosk: reapply everything
21:29 riunosk: according to my mod reply
21:29 riunosk: then i send u the updated .osu
21:29 riunosk: then u can mod from there
21:29 Abraxos: sur
21:29 riunosk: i already reminded him
21:29 riunosk: and somehow
21:29 riunosk: he fucks up the update
21:29 riunosk: lolo
21:29 Abraxos: people
21:29 riunosk: peepole
21:30 Abraxos: same
21:30 riunosk: and now my internet is being a dick
21:30 Abraxos: rip
21:30 riunosk: ther ish noe yinderknet konekshen
21:30 Abraxos: samE
21:30 riunosk: cunT
21:30 riunosk: fucK
21:31 riunosk: pisS
21:31 Abraxos: smh
21:31 riunosk: fucK sloW interneT
21:31 Abraxos: uw u
21:31 riunosk: u wuxos
21:31 riunosk: huhu
21:31 Abraxos: fgbjkfg
21:31 riunosk: yay it loaded
21:32 Abraxos: gratz
21:33 riunosk: done
21:33 riunosk: puush or pastebeen
21:33 Abraxos: anything
21:33 riunosk: pastebeaning
21:33 Abraxos: oki
21:34 riunosk: https://pastebin.com/8HHTXveL
21:35 Abraxos: got it
21:35 riunosk: yay
21:35 riunosk: leddodis
21:35 Abraxos: reminds me of artcore jinja
21:35 riunosk: this track is artcore lol
21:35 Abraxos: 01:36:263 - note?
21:36 riunosk: oops
21:36 riunosk: added
21:36 riunosk: woa
21:36 Abraxos: 00:09:647 - 00:09:955 - same
21:36 riunosk: thats pretty far ahead
21:36 Abraxos: yeah idk
21:37 riunosk: im not mapping for those sounds
21:37 riunosk: oh wait
21:37 Abraxos: its weird without them
21:37 riunosk: fuc
21:37 riunosk: i only mapped the louder ones
21:37 riunosk: >:C
21:37 Abraxos: its still weird
21:37 Abraxos: \shrug
21:37 riunosk: added
21:38 riunosk: 00:32:494 -
21:38 riunosk: i rearranged this tho
21:38 Abraxos: 01:42:032 (102032|1,102032|0,102186|0,102186|1,102340|0,102340|1,102494|0,102494|1,102647|1,102647|0,102801|1,102801|0,102955|0,102955|1,103109|1,103109|0,103263|0,103263|1,103417|0,103417|1) - then
21:38 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7805681
21:39 riunosk: so its not too repetitive
21:39 Abraxos: ic
21:39 riunosk: 01:43:263 -
21:39 riunosk: started the 14 23 jtrill here
21:39 riunosk: applied btw
21:39 Abraxos: coo
21:39 riunosk: no idea what i was doing lol
21:39 Abraxos: 01:48:724 - snare
21:40 Abraxos: assuming you only care about snares
21:40 riunosk: fak
21:40 riunosk: missing notes everywhere
21:40 Abraxos: ending 01:52:494 - also has snares and shit
21:40 Abraxos: ye
21:40 riunosk: 01:47:417 - added note at 1
21:41 riunosk: 01:47:724 - added at 4
21:41 riunosk: moved next note to 2
21:41 Abraxos: owo
21:41 riunosk: applied 1:52
21:41 Abraxos: nice
21:41 Abraxos: alright nothing else
21:41 Abraxos: good acc map
21:41 Abraxos: why is artcore so boring to chart z
21:42 riunosk: yay
21:42 riunosk: duno
21:42 riunosk: but is free pp
21:42 riunosk: so
21:42 riunosk: no complaints
21:42 riunosk: :D
21:42 Abraxos: ye
21:42 Abraxos: xd
21:42 riunosk: go post ur irc
21:42 Abraxos: alright
21:42 riunosk: free kudosu
21:42 Abraxos: need to complain about spread too hold on

easy and normal

the difficulty spread between both of them is currently unrankable - i need one of you guys (dustmoon or symacon) to either nerf or buff your difficulties, because currently their SRs are so damn close i need to pee

just a side by side comparison of the both difficulties, easy on left normal on right
00:55:878 - not sure about you but i think 1/2 jumps are way denser than 1/1 / 1/2 notes
01:03:263 - not that theres anything wrong with 1/4s, but just look at the difference in density and tell me if their difficulties are linearly distributed or not

easy
01:04:494 - can you map this part im sure even beginner players will fall asleep here - its not hard to follow the background violin is it
01:52:494 - missing note, dont tell me theres no synth there because 01:50:955 (110955|1) - there isnt any here too
normal
01:38:955 (98955|3,99109|2,99263|3,99417|2,99570|3,99724|2,99878|3,100032|2) - i guess youre trying to make up for the minute difference in sr but like normal diff. players arent going to have as much control as you think they have in hitting trills like these
01:41:417 - same deal
01:41:263 (101263|2,101263|3,101417|2) - why such an awkward transition?
also you had the trill on the right hand before too so balance is off
also 01:41:417 (101417|2,101724|2,102032|2,102340|2,102647|2,102955|2,103263|2,103570|2,103878|2) - anchor on 3
01:13:724 (73724|0,73724|2,73724|1,73724|3) - is a quad really necessary lmao i dont know if normal diff players have the finger independence for this too

yeah im not modding more, you seem to have quite a bit to go to polish this map off but it shouldnt be too hard to get there - gl for rank
pm me if you need any further elaboration or smth
riunosk

Abraxos wrote:

irc for riunosks diff
21:15 riunosk: revolution deathsquad seems to be halfway done
21:15 Abraxos: nice
21:15 riunosk: 4:55 5.19
21:15 riunosk: \o/
21:15 riunosk: od9 hp9.5
21:15 Abraxos: coo
21:15 riunosk: increased by 0.1
21:15 riunosk: >:D
21:19 Abraxos: :)
21:21 riunosk: my gawd
21:21 riunosk: 97.24
21:21 riunosk: 896
21:21 riunosk: my map is raping me
21:21 Abraxos: consistency
21:22 riunosk: it has a few uncomfortable parts
21:22 riunosk: lol
21:23 riunosk: abasocks
21:24 Abraxos: ye
21:24 riunosk: want to playtest / mod my gd :d
21:25 Abraxos: sure
21:25 Abraxos: np pls
21:25 riunosk: yey
21:25 *riunosk is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255291 ARForest - Altros]
21:28 riunosk: fak he didnt update it yet!!!
21:28 Abraxos: lo
21:28 Abraxos: rip my 991 k
21:28 riunosk: that missing kick snare thing
21:28 riunosk: i added in the update
21:28 riunosk: >:C
21:28 riunosk: sed
21:28 Abraxos: it ok
21:28 Abraxos: no major changes other than that so
21:28 Abraxos: what kind of feedback you want?.
21:28 riunosk: yey
21:29 riunosk: duno
21:29 riunosk: anything u can find
21:29 Abraxos: uno
21:29 riunosk: hold on
21:29 riunosk: before u do the mod
21:29 riunosk: lemme just
21:29 riunosk: reapply everything
21:29 riunosk: according to my mod reply
21:29 riunosk: then i send u the updated .osu
21:29 riunosk: then u can mod from there
21:29 Abraxos: sur
21:29 riunosk: i already reminded him
21:29 riunosk: and somehow
21:29 riunosk: he fucks up the update
21:29 riunosk: lolo
21:29 Abraxos: people
21:29 riunosk: peepole
21:30 Abraxos: same
21:30 riunosk: and now my internet is being a dick
21:30 Abraxos: rip
21:30 riunosk: ther ish noe yinderknet konekshen
21:30 Abraxos: samE
21:30 riunosk: cunT
21:30 riunosk: fucK
21:31 riunosk: pisS
21:31 Abraxos: smh
21:31 riunosk: fucK sloW interneT
21:31 Abraxos: uw u
21:31 riunosk: u wuxos
21:31 riunosk: huhu
21:31 Abraxos: fgbjkfg
21:31 riunosk: yay it loaded
21:32 Abraxos: gratz
21:33 riunosk: done
21:33 riunosk: puush or pastebeen
21:33 Abraxos: anything
21:33 riunosk: pastebeaning
21:33 Abraxos: oki
21:34 riunosk: https://pastebin.com/8HHTXveL
21:35 Abraxos: got it
21:35 riunosk: yay
21:35 riunosk: leddodis
21:35 Abraxos: reminds me of artcore jinja
21:35 riunosk: this track is artcore lol
21:35 Abraxos: 01:36:263 - note?
21:36 riunosk: oops
21:36 riunosk: added
21:36 riunosk: woa
21:36 Abraxos: 00:09:647 - 00:09:955 - same
21:36 riunosk: thats pretty far ahead
21:36 Abraxos: yeah idk
21:37 riunosk: im not mapping for those sounds
21:37 riunosk: oh wait
21:37 Abraxos: its weird without them
21:37 riunosk: fuc
21:37 riunosk: i only mapped the louder ones
21:37 riunosk: >:C
21:37 Abraxos: its still weird
21:37 Abraxos: \shrug
21:37 riunosk: added
21:38 riunosk: 00:32:494 -
21:38 riunosk: i rearranged this tho
21:38 Abraxos: 01:42:032 (102032|1,102032|0,102186|0,102186|1,102340|0,102340|1,102494|0,102494|1,102647|1,102647|0,102801|1,102801|0,102955|0,102955|1,103109|1,103109|0,103263|0,103263|1,103417|0,103417|1) - then
21:38 riunosk: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7805681
21:39 riunosk: so its not too repetitive
21:39 Abraxos: ic
21:39 riunosk: 01:43:263 -
21:39 riunosk: started the 14 23 jtrill here
21:39 riunosk: applied btw
21:39 Abraxos: coo
21:39 riunosk: no idea what i was doing lol
21:39 Abraxos: 01:48:724 - snare
21:40 Abraxos: assuming you only care about snares
21:40 riunosk: fak
21:40 riunosk: missing notes everywhere
21:40 Abraxos: ending 01:52:494 - also has snares and shit
21:40 Abraxos: ye
21:40 riunosk: 01:47:417 - added note at 1
21:41 riunosk: 01:47:724 - added at 4
21:41 riunosk: moved next note to 2
21:41 Abraxos: owo
21:41 riunosk: applied 1:52
21:41 Abraxos: nice
21:41 Abraxos: alright nothing else
21:41 Abraxos: good acc map
21:41 Abraxos: why is artcore so boring to chart z
21:42 riunosk: yay
21:42 riunosk: duno
21:42 riunosk: but is free pp
21:42 riunosk: so
21:42 riunosk: no complaints
21:42 riunosk: :D
21:42 Abraxos: ye
21:42 Abraxos: xd
21:42 riunosk: go post ur irc
21:42 Abraxos: alright
21:42 riunosk: free kudosu
21:42 Abraxos: need to complain about spread too hold on
thank for mod
https://pastebin.com/02zLSuZ4 <-- update
Cipse
Late mod from the RRM Modding Queue. I've got a break at the moment so I might as well get some mods done

If any suggestions create a new uncomfortable pattern, make sure you rearrange those new patterns as well
0 1 2 3

Hard
Patterning
I'd remove patterns like 00:00:801 (801|2,955|3,1263|2,1570|2,1724|3,1878|2) -. Having an imbalance between the hands like that is uncomfortable to play. Considering it doesn't represent any specific sounds and pitch relevancy (PR) isn't followed, it doesn't feel good to play either
00:02:340 (2340|1,2494|0,2801|1,2955|0,3109|1,3417|1) - ^
00:03:570 (3570|3,3724|2,4032|2,4186|3,4340|2,4647|2) - ^

One handed (OH) {x,y,x,y} patterns, like 00:07:570 (7570|0,7724|1,7878|0,8032|1) -, don't play very well. Again, it isn't tied to any specific sounds so remove it

If 00:07:878 (7878|3) - is still an LN, 00:08:340 (8340|0,8494|1,8801|1,8955|0) - is still slightly heavy on the LH. For more comfort, 00:09:263 (9263|0) - should be moved to {1}, to prevent stacking with 00:08:955 (8955|0) -, and 00:09:417 (9417|1) - should be moved to {3}, as it is more comfortable than a 1/1 stack or another note in the left hand (LH)

Remove the stack caused by 00:17:263 (17263|3,17570|3,17878|3) - all being in {3}. 00:17:263 (17263|3,17417|2,17570|3) - can be changed to {2,3,2} or 00:17:878 (17878|3) - can be moved to {2} to solve

From 00:22:340 (22340|2) - to 00:27:878 (27878|2) -, you've got a lot of notes stacks in {1} and {2}. Move notes to {0} and {3}. 00:26:955 (26955|2,27109|1,27263|2,27417|1,27570|2,27724|1,27878|2) - definitely needs some notes moved to the outer columns, especially since it's not representing any alternating sounds

00:28:801 (28801|1,29109|1,29417|1,29724|1,30032|1) - is a stack in {1}. Move 00:29:417 (29417|1) - to {0} to solve

Patterns like 00:31:263 (31263|0,31340|1,31494|1,31647|1,31724|0,31801|1,31955|1,32032|0,32109|1) - are uncomfortable. 1/4 streams are the most difficult pattern to play in this difficulty, there is no need to create unbalanced patterns that are uncomfortable to play. Remove OH {x,y,x} patterns, like 00:31:647 (31647|1,31724|0,31801|1) -, and trills, like 00:31:340 (31340|1,31417|2,31494|1,31570|2,31647|1) -, to solve

00:33:570 (33570|1) - should be moved to {0}, to avoid stacks in {1}

00:34:955 (34955|1,35263|1,35570|1,35878|1) - is another stack in {1}. Move 00:35:263 (35263|1,35570|1) - to {0} and 00:35:417 (35417|0) - to {1} for an easy fix

Since 00:36:340 (36340|1,36417|0) - is 1/4 snapped, fast for the difficulty, you'd want to not have OH {x,y,x} patterns like 00:36:186 (36186|0,36340|1,36417|0) -

Notes like 00:36:724 (36724|3,36801|2,36801|1) - are more comfortable if the single and double are played in different hands

00:38:032 (38032|0,38186|1,38340|0,38647|1,38801|0,38955|1) - is heavy on the LH. Move one note to the RH

00:38:955 (38955|2,39109|3,39263|2,39417|3,39494|2) - should not be a OH trill. The sounds aren't alternating and there's a 1/4 snapped part at the end

00:39:570 (39570|1,39724|1,40032|1) - is not representing a repeated sound and shouldn't be jacked. The overall pattern of 00:39:570 (39570|1,39724|1,39878|0,40032|1) - is also needlessly LH heavy. Remove the jack and balance out the notes by putting them in at least three different columns

00:40:340 (40340|1,40494|0,40570|1,40724|1,40801|0,40878|1) - is, again, LH heavy. There's no reason for it, judging by pitch relevancy (PR), and it's uncomfortable so remove it
00:41:109 (41109|0,41186|1,41263|0,41340|1,41494|1,41724|1,41878|1,41955|0,42032|1) - ^

00:41:186 (41186|1,41340|1,41417|2,41494|1,41647|2,41724|1,41801|2,41878|1,42032|1,42186|2,42263|1,42340|2) - is another trill. It's not a OH trill but that doesn't make it much less uncomfortable to play

Considering that there are is a 1/4 snapped stream, 00:42:340 (42340|0,42340|2,42340|3) - could be reduced to two notes to make it easier for the player

Remove the trill caused by 00:45:570 (45570|2,45724|1,45878|2,46186|1,46340|2,46647|2,46955|1) -. It's not following PR, which means the pattern makes no sense. Because of that, it isn't exactly fun to play either

The same applies with 00:48:032 (48032|1,48186|2,48340|3,48647|1,48801|2,49109|2,49263|3,49417|2,49570|1) -. 00:48:186 (48186|2,48340|3,48801|2,49109|2,49263|3,49417|2) - is obviously RH heavy. 00:48:032 (48032|1,48186|2,48340|3,48647|1,48801|2) - follows PR, but could use a more comfortable pattern, such as {0,1,2, 1,2}. However, 00:49:109 (49109|2,49263|3,49417|2,49570|1) - doesn't follow PR, which makes the imbalance unjustified

00:50:494 (50494|2,50647|3,50801|2,51109|3,51263|2,51570|1,51724|2,51878|1,52032|2) - is pretty much has the same issue as the last two. Both the trills, 00:50:494 (50494|2,50647|3,50801|2,51109|3,51263|2) - and 00:51:570 (51570|1,51724|2,51878|1,52032|2) -, make no musical sense and should be changed

00:52:647 (52647|2,52955|2) - is a random jack. Putting this note in any other column would be more comfortable. Since there is no repeated sound, there is no reason not to do this

00:54:494 (54494|2,54647|2) - is another random jack. Move 00:54:494 (54494|2) - to {3} to solve quickly

00:55:109 (55109|2,55417|2,55724|2,56032|2,56340|2) - is an obvious stack that should be removed. Whilst 00:54:647 (54647|2,55109|2) - and 00:55:724 (55724|2,56032|2) - are fine, the other three notes are not. 00:56:340 (56340|2) - can be swapped with 00:56:494 (56494|1) -, 00:56:801 (56801|2) - can now be moved to {1} to prevent stacking and 00:55:417 (55417|2) - should definitely go in {1}

00:57:878 (57878|1,58032|2,58186|1,58340|2,58494|1) - is a random trill. There are no alternating sounds, so remove it
01:01:109 (61109|1,61263|2,61417|1,61570|2) - ^

01:02:494 (62494|2) - should go in {3}, as there is no repeated sound to justify a jack
01:05:417 (65417|1,65724|1) - ^

01:09:570 (69570|0,69724|1,69878|0,70032|1) - is another random trill. Even with only three columns available, don't make a four note, or longer, trill if it isn't musically justified. The trill creates a stack in {1} as well, with 01:09:724 (69724|1,70032|1,70340|1,70647|1,70955|1) -

01:11:724 (71724|0,72032|0,72340|0,72801|0,73263|0,73570|0) - is a stack in {0}. Remove it

Considering that 01:14:340 (74340|1,74647|1,75109|1) - aren't the same pitch, they shouldn't be in the same column, as it creates an uncomfortable pattern. As 01:14:340 (74340|1,75109|1) - are the same pitch as each other, you should move 01:14:647 (74647|1) - to {0}

01:16:340 (76340|1,76494|2,76647|1,76955|1,77109|2,77263|1,77724|1,77878|2,78186|1,78494|2,78801|1,78955|2,79109|1,79417|1,79570|2) - is another one of those sets of trills between {1} and {2}. No alternating sounds means it should be removed

01:21:417 (81417|2,81724|2,81878|3,82032|2,82494|2,82647|3,82801|2,83109|2,83263|3,83417|2) - is stacked in {2} and {3}, as well as having no notes in {0} at all

01:25:417 (85417|1,85570|0,85570|1) - uses one of the most uncomfortable patterns, a mini-jack with the part having a double on the same hand. Like all the other jacks, there are no repeated sounds, so remove it

If you're keeping 01:25:878 (85878|2,86032|2) - as a jack, 01:25:724 (85724|3) - should be in the opposite hand. 01:26:186 (86186|3) - can potentially be in the other hand as well

01:27:109 (87109|2,87263|1,87417|2,87570|1,87724|2,87878|1,88032|2) - is another random trill, remove it

01:28:186 (88186|0,88340|1,88494|2,88647|1,88647|0,88801|3,88955|2,89109|1,89263|2,89263|3,89417|0,89570|1,89724|2,89878|0,89878|1) - is just the same pattern repeated. Change it for variety, it isn't interesting playing the same pattern repeatedly

01:30:340 (90340|1,90647|1,90955|1,91263|1) - is a stack in {1}. The easiest fix is to move 01:30:647 (90647|1) - to {0}

For the stream starting at 01:31:570 -, remove all the trills and OH {x,y,x} patterns, like 01:32:494 (92494|1,92570|2,92647|1,92724|2) - and 01:31:724 (91724|2,91801|3,91878|2) -. As stated earlier, 1/4 streams are the most difficult pattern here and shouldn't be used in conjunction with uncomfortable patterns. In addition, those patterns make no sense musically - there aren't any alternating sounds anywhere

01:34:032 (94032|0,94186|0) - might have a repeated kick but remove the jack anyway. The 1/4 stream just finished, there is no need to throw an uncomfortable pattern after it

The whole of 01:35:724 (95724|1,95878|2,96032|2,96109|1,96186|2,96340|2,96417|1,96570|1,96647|2,96724|1,96801|2,96955|2,97032|1,97186|2,97263|1,97417|1,97494|2,97647|2,97724|1) - is stacked in {1} and {2}. As with the other iterations, there is no musical reason to support this uncomfortable pattern, especially during a 1/4 stream

A more appropriate pattern for 01:38:955 (98955|3,99032|2,99109|1,99186|2,99263|1,99263|3) - would be {3,2,1,0,2+3}. The 1/4 is representing the piano glissando that is descending in pitch, which can be shown through PR by making a pattern that goes from {3} to {0}. The main sound at 01:39:263 - is not the piano and therefore feels more satisfying to play in a different hand from the notes before, which should be {1} then {0}

Regardless of what patterning is used before it, 01:39:417 (99417|2,99570|3,99724|2,99878|3,100032|2,100340|3,100340|2) - is still RH heavy. Again, no alternating sounds means no trills, especially OH trills

01:40:494 (100494|1,100647|1) - is a random jack, no repeated sound
01:40:801 (100801|2,100955|2) - ^
01:41:263 (101263|2,101417|2) - ^

01:41:417 (101417|2,101570|1,101724|2,101801|1,101878|2,102032|1,102109|2,102186|1,102340|2,102417|1,102570|1,102647|2,102801|2,102878|1,103032|1,103186|2,103263|1,103340|2,103417|1) - is another 1/4 snapped {1}/{2} trill. Again, it isn't musically supported so remove it

As with above, nothing supports 01:44:186 (104186|3,104340|2,104494|3,104647|2,104801|3) - being a OH trill
01:45:109 (105109|3,105263|2,105417|3,105570|2) - ^

No repeated sound means that 01:46:186 (106186|2,106340|2) - shouldn't be a jack

01:46:955 (106955|2,107109|3,107263|2,107417|3,107570|2,107724|3) - has no supporting sound for the trill

01:48:647 (108647|3,108801|3) - shouldn't be a jack, no repeated sound

Move 01:48:955 (108955|1) - to {0} so that a 1/4 shield, 01:46:340 (106340|1,108955|1) -, isn't created

01:51:109 (111109|1,111263|1) - is another random jack

01:51:417 (111417|3,111570|2,111724|3,111878|2,112032|3,112186|2) - is another random trill

Just as a note, I personally have the opinion that covering all lanes with LNs, such as 01:51:263 (111263|1,113417|0,113417|2,113417|3) -, looks ugly. This will be fixed in the consistency section anyway but I'll point it out now, in the even that an LN quad is justified by the sounds

Consistency
00:05:417 (5417|0) - no sustained sound for the LN, remove it or change it to a SN. A double can be used to signify the start of a new section
00:07:878 (7878|3) - ^
This actually applies to all LNs between and including 00:17:724 (17724|0) -

00:19:109 -, 00:19:417 -, 00:19:724 - and 00:20:032 - are all missing melody sounds. The introductory section ends at 00:20:186 -, not 00:18:955 -, so you should keep mapping the melody

00:30:340 (30340|2) - needs another note for the snare, same sound as 00:29:109 (29109|1,29109|2) -, 00:28:340 (28340|0,28340|3) -, etc

00:30:570 (30570|0) - should be snapped to 00:30:494 (30494|0) -

00:31:186 (31186|3) - has no piano sound, remove the note
00:31:340 (31340|1) - ^

00:36:647 (36647|1) - needs a note for the piano. If you're not adding it in, remove 00:36:340 (36340|1,36417|0,36724|3) -, as they're part of the same piano sound group

00:37:724 (37724|3) - should get a double, as there is a snare

00:39:263 (39263|2,39263|1) - no snare here, remove a note

00:39:570 (39570|1) - add a double, for the snare

00:41:032 (41032|3) - has no piano sound, remove the note
00:41:186 (41186|1) - ^

00:45:263 (45263|1) - should have a double. It has the same kick sound as 00:44:801 (44801|0,44801|3) -. It doesn't have the same synth sound so don't use LNs
00:47:724 (47724|3) - ^
00:50:186 (50186|1) - ^
00:52:647 (52647|2) - ^

I can't hear any sustained sound to go with 00:54:032 (54032|0) -. The sound there isn't strong either, remove the note entirely
00:58:340 (58340|3) - ^

Between 00:54:647 - and 01:04:494 -, you'd want to add in doubles for the snares and leave kicks as singles, which is what you've done between 00:22:340 - and 00:42:340 -. The section feels odd to play without doubles for the snares, considering how strong of a sound they make
So stuff like 00:54:955 (54955|3,54955|1) - should be singles and snares like 00:55:724 (55724|2) - should be doubles

01:06:340 (66340|2) - isn't a melody note but is included, where you have excluded all the other melody notes in the first two bars
01:08:801 (68801|0) - ^

01:13:263 - should get a note, considering that it follows on from the last bar, which has notes at every 1/2 snap
01:13:570 - ^

01:13:724 (73724|0,73724|2,73724|1,73724|3) - shouldn't be a quad. There might be multiple sounds but the sounds aren't strong. A single LN is enough to cover it

There's a sound at 01:14:032 - that you should add in, which also means you can't have a quad before it

01:20:032 (80032|1,80032|2) - has the same sounds as 01:19:724 (79724|3) -, 01:19:570 (79570|2) -, etc. Change it to a single
01:20:340 (80340|0,80340|1) - ^
01:20:647 (80647|2,80647|3) - ^
01:20:955 (80955|2,80955|1) - ^

01:25:570 (85570|1,85570|0) - should be a single, only a kick there. 01:25:724 (85724|3) - should be a double, for the snare
01:26:801 (86801|1,86801|3) -/01:26:955 (86955|0) - ^
01:28:032 (88032|2,88032|3) -/01:28:186 (88186|0) - ^
01:29:263 (89263|2,89263|3) -/01:29:417 (89417|0) - ^
01:30:494 (90494|2,90494|3) -/

01:28:494 (88494|2) - should be a double, snare

01:28:647 (88647|0,88647|1) - should be a single, kick

01:28:801 (88801|3) - should be a double, snare

01:31:494 (91494|2) - has no piano sound, remove

01:34:340 (94340|3) - should get a double, snare
01:35:570 (95570|3) - ^

01:35:417 (95417|2,95417|0) - should only be a single, kick

01:40:340 (100340|3,100340|2) - should only be a single, kick
01:41:263 (101263|2,101263|3) - ^

01:43:417 (103417|1,103417|0,103570|3,103570|2,103724|0,103724|1,103878|2,103878|3) - should still be a 1/4 stream, not a 1/2 jumptrill. The piano hasn't ended at 01:43:417 (103417|1) -, it ends at 01:43:878 (103878|2,103878|0,103878|3) -

01:43:878 (103878|0,103878|3,103878|2) - should only be a double for the crash. Remove one of the SNs. Just because one of the notes is an LN doesn't mean that it doesn't count as a note in a column. The triple also plays badly, as it creates 01:43:724 (103724|0,103878|0) -

01:53:417 (113417|3,113417|2,113417|0) - has no prominent sound that justifies a triple. Remove it

01:53:570 - has a sound that is not mapped. Add a note there
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SwitchAxe
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col 1/2/3/4
general
same od as hyper? rise to 8.5 (not just to be coherent with spread, this diff has really low ln density to use just od8)
hyper
* 00:07:263 (7263|3,7570|3) - why are you repeating column here, there is no repeated sound and i see no reason to repeat
* personal suggestion here, what about a ln at 00:14:032 - finishing at 00:14:340 - . i mean you have been representing background sounds and think this can match
*i suggest you to pick up other pattern for theese lns 00:06:340 (6340|3,6494|2,6647|1,6801|2,6955|1,7109|0) - since this part 00:08:186 (8186|3,8340|2,8494|1,8647|2,8801|1,8955|0) - has same patterning and not the same sounds, justsome
to explain myself better see 00:06:801 (6801|2,6955|1,7109|0) - and 00:08:186 (8186|3,8340|2,8494|1) - are the sound similar, moving 00:06:801 (6801|2,6955|1,7109|0) - to the right could work since theese two 00:06:647 (6647|1,6801|2) - have a really different pitch
*this one is personal, but the beep at 00:21:417 - can be represented
* 00:27:570 - this finish is strong add a note, if you think this disrupts the note density you want for that part or don't want two hands close to eachother there removing a note from 00:27:417 - may work.

* 00:30:032 - ^
* 00:31:109 (31109|0,31109|1,31109|3,31263|2,31263|3) - now theese i agree it can be hand - jump since at 00:31:109 - piano is more important
* 00:32:647 (32647|2,32801|2,32955|2,33109|2) - you got this stack here and i think its not intended :o
* 00:40:955 (40955|2,41109|2,41263|2,41494|2,41647|2,41801|2) - now this one is an akward stack too, but its the result of a stream (anchor pattern repeated with no mirror end up in theese stacks). i think you should adjust that stream so you avoid stress on col3
* well this ln 01:04:494 (64494|0) - should end at 01:06:955 - because:
01:08:186 (68186|2,68340|3,68494|2) - and 01:08:647 (68647|3,68801|2,68955|3,69109|2,69263|3) - sound different, take a look at 01:08:647 (68647|3) - and 01:09:109 (69109|2,69263|3) - their pitch are way different. since this happened on a calm part where you Can focus on pitch taking out that ln allows you to repretent it better.
* find similar problem on 01:09:417 (69417|3,71878|2,71878|1,72186|1,72340|0,72647|1,72801|0,72955|1) - but not as important as previous one
* 01:10:340 (70340|1) - move to 3 for pitch relevancy like previous suggestion?
* 01:18:801 (78801|2,78955|1,79109|2,79263|3,79417|2,79570|1,79724|2) - this one is okay to ignore col1 i'll agree, but 01:21:263 (81263|2,81417|1,81570|2,81724|3,81878|2,82032|1,82186|2) - sounds different and isn't at least mirrored to represent that (focus on the second half of each snake pattern, they are different :P)
this also makes col1 empty for way too long (again, you can ignore col1 for one of the pattern but not both imo)
* 01:31:570 (91570|3,91647|2,91724|1,91724|3,91801|0,91878|2,91878|3,91955|1,92032|0,92032|2,92109|3,92186|1,92263|2,92340|1,92340|3,92417|0) -
col1: 3 notes / col2 and col3: 4 notes / col4: 6 notes---> would change last note (01:32:494 (92494|3) - ) since it dosen't make you change too much the pattern wich is allright
* why is this 01:32:647 (92647|2,92647|1,92724|0,92801|1,92878|2,92955|0,92955|3,93032|1,93109|2,93109|0,93186|3,93263|1,93263|2) - representing kicks with jumps and then you stop at 01:33:340 (93340|0,93417|1,93494|3,93570|2,93647|0,93724|1,93801|3,93878|2,93955|0,94032|1) - this sudden diff drop is weird, and kicks are same intensity as before (inconsistency alert) i mean 01:34:032 - is stroooonk cmon
* 01:41:570 (101570|0,101570|1,101647|2,101724|3,101801|2,101878|3,101878|1,101955|2,102032|1,102109|0,102186|3,102186|1,102263|2,102340|3,102417|2,102494|3,102570|2,102647|0,102647|1) - find this a bit unbalanced for both hands, but if you had an intention here im not seeing it, in that case keep pattern
* 00:48:647 (48647|2,48801|2) - to switch pattern to a jack it has to be at least on a repetitive mood wich i dont see here. i hear no sound repetition.

hard
* 00:22:340 (22340|2) - one single ln for this sounds? i mean it would be fine as an adjustment for normal diff but on hard you can use 1/4 a bit dont be afraid, just take in mind pattern must be simple and wouldn't go for too long streams. you had no problem to do so later on the diff
go make it a stream imo, end it with jump at 00:22:647 -
* 00:27:570 - like i meant in hyper already, too strong beat to keep as single note
* 00:31:263 (31263|0,31340|1,31417|2,31494|1,31570|3,31570|2,31647|1,31724|0,31801|1,31878|3,31878|2,31955|1,32032|0,32109|1,32186|2,32263|3,32340|2,32417|1,32494|2,32494|0) - this would be okay in a higher diff, but having such a left hand stress for theese level of players is too much imo
* 00:39:570 (39570|1,39724|1) - why jack if the second note is clearly on lower pitch?
* 00:57:417 (57417|2,57417|1,57570|0,57570|3) - ctrl j so the 23 jump matches with 00:57:109 (57109|2,57109|1) -
* what do theese lns represent? 00:55:878 (55878|0) - 00:58:340 (58340|3) -
* 01:13:724 (73724|3,73724|2,73724|1,73724|0) - i find this exagerated. the long sound is strong and i agree it should be represented as such but it may be too much ( take in mind its 4 lns for hard diff and 3lns at the hyper wich screws relation between diffs from the spread)
* 01:13:724 (73724|3,73724|2,73724|1,73724|0) - ctrl h everything since pitch is the oposite. and again calm parts allow you to use pitch more precisely
* 01:21:417 (81417|2,81570|1,81724|2,81878|3,82032|2,82186|1,82494|2,82647|3,82801|2,82955|1,83109|2,83263|3,83417|2) - meant this on hyper already dont have to explain again
* 01:53:417 (113417|2) - remove, it will take out the shield with 01:53:263 (113263|2) - . also i find this too much ln amount, even for the very ending its not a strong ending exploding after a build up... its a calm ending decreasing until the very last note.

riu's madness
* 00:19:263 (19263|2,19340|1,19417|0,19494|1,19570|2) - is not fitting imo, should find a pattern that matches better with the previous short streams for those soft sounds wich were stairs, one handed thrills, 1243 and 2134. i'd recomend thrill at the center . its fine to vary pattern, but you already did vary it enough imo not necesary to switch to the one you picked
* 00:35:724 - high pitch piano on the background should be represented somehow since its main sound here, i mean compare 00:33:417 (33417|0,33494|1,33570|3,33570|2,33647|1,33724|0) - with 00:35:878 (35878|0,35955|1,36032|2,36032|3,36109|1,36186|0) - sections are the same paatterning with way different music
* 01:14:032 (74032|3) - sound ends at 01:14:186 - . if you accept this suggestion you can also move ln to col3 and will be able to place 01:14:340 (74340|2) - on col4 to match better the pitch
* switch one of theese 12 jumps around 01:42:032 (102032|1,102032|0,102186|0,102186|1,102340|0,102340|1,102494|0,102494|1,102647|1,102647|0,102801|1,102801|0,102955|0,102955|1,103109|1,103109|0) - i see your intention but try doing the same without making aaall of the jumps of the stream 12 i dont think music justifies the repetition.
* 01:43:570 (103570|3,103570|0,103647|1,103647|2,103724|0,103724|3,103801|2,103801|1) - this is on a higher intensity compared to 01:43:263 (103263|0,103263|3,103340|2,103340|1,103417|3,103417|0,103494|1,103494|2) - try to represent that
* as personal suggestion, consider adding sv (x0.9) for really calm sections such as 01:04:494 - and at the outro 01:43:878 -
panel would look like this-> https://puu.sh/vk91i.png

Hope this helps, sorry for the late... irl too strong o_o
feel free to reject anything you disagree with
good luck with the map guys!
riunosk

SwitchAxe wrote:

riu's madness
* 00:19:263 (19263|2,19340|1,19417|0,19494|1,19570|2) - is not fitting imo, should find a pattern that matches better with the previous short streams for those soft sounds wich were stairs, one handed thrills, 1243 and 2134. i'd recomend thrill at the center . its fine to vary pattern, but you already did vary it enough imo not necesary to switch to the one you picked trillified
* 00:35:724 - high pitch piano on the background should be represented somehow since its main sound here, i mean compare 00:33:417 (33417|0,33494|1,33570|3,33570|2,33647|1,33724|0) - with 00:35:878 (35878|0,35955|1,36032|2,36032|3,36109|1,36186|0) - sections are the same paatterning with way different music putting a quad out of nowhere wouldn't really make sense wouldn't it? also im mapping mainly to the hihats
* 01:14:032 (74032|3) - sound ends at 01:14:186 - . if you accept this suggestion you can also move ln to col3 and will be able to place 01:14:340 (74340|2) - on col4 to match better the pitch good suggestion, applied
* switch one of theese 12 jumps around 01:42:032 (102032|1,102032|0,102186|0,102186|1,102340|0,102340|1,102494|0,102494|1,102647|1,102647|0,102801|1,102801|0,102955|0,102955|1,103109|1,103109|0) - i see your intention but try doing the same without making aaall of the jumps of the stream 12 i dont think music justifies the repetition. true, rearranged slightly
* 01:43:570 (103570|3,103570|0,103647|1,103647|2,103724|0,103724|3,103801|2,103801|1) - this is on a higher intensity compared to 01:43:263 (103263|0,103263|3,103340|2,103340|1,103417|3,103417|0,103494|1,103494|2) - try to represent that i dont really see a pattern that can fit your suggestion while avoiding jacks so cant really apply this..
* as personal suggestion, consider adding sv (x0.9) for really calm sections such as 01:04:494 - and at the outro 01:43:878 -
panel would look like this-> https://puu.sh/vk91i.png goot idea, applied

Hope this helps, sorry for the late... irl too strong o_o
feel free to reject anything you disagree with
good luck with the map guys!
thanks for modding!
https://pastebin.com/t3cqcZqQ <-- update
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
Sorry for inactive, I will return soon
DustMoon
Accept some mod
Thx, a lot of people. :)
Update
osu file format v14

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Countdown: 0
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Title:Altros
TitleUnicode:Altros
Artist:ARForest
ArtistUnicode:ARForest
Creator:Symacon
Version:Moon's Easy
Source:BMS
Tags:riunosk artcore dustmoon electronic instrumental
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riunosk
https://pastebin.com/EzDgjvAb < fixed a few missing notes oops wrong
https://pastebin.com/hgHEQx6J < updated as of 3rd May
Topic Starter
Cataclysm
Will continue at some point
riunosk
revive when?

bubble when??

qualify when???

R A N K W H E N ? ? ? ?
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