1. Hymn to the World (0 stars, 1 notes)

1. 00:00:595 (1,2) - These are before the first timing point. Move timing point to 00:00:595 (1)
   
2. 00:06:557 (4) - New combo
   
3. 00:08:672 (3,4) - Stack?
   
4. Equal spacing between these. #6 is closer to #5, but #5 is further away from #4
   
5. 00:15:980 (5) - New combo
6. 00:19:057 (4) - ^ Same
7. 00:43:864 (7) - ^ Same
   
8. 00:54:826 (3,4) - Fix slider overlap
9. 01:00:403 (2,3) - ^ Same
   
10. 01:03:864 (2) - Move closer to 01:02:903 (1)
    
11. 01:19:441 (3,4) - Move closer as well, to show that the slider is 1/4th of a beat after #3
    
12. 01:50:595 (1) - New combo
    
13. 03:45:788 (1) - Green timing point lasts for 1/4th of a beat, but has Kiai enabled. Disable it
    
14. 04:58:288 (1,2) - Ok, WAY too big of a jump. Make it a bit smaller
    
15. 05:24:057 (4) - New combo
16. 05:39:249 (6,7,8) - ^
17. 05:42:134 (5,6,7) - ^
    
    Generally, focus on spacing. It's off.
    
    If this is unhelpful, ignore it and don't give me kudosu Good luck!

Aerith123 wrote:

Finally! Someone map this song

Not using Storyboard ? i will be more great tho
just my opinion tho : how about change the diff song to Orpheus instead of Phasunagar ?

LimePixel wrote:

Hi!
NM request from queue. Hope it helps

1. 00:00:595 (1,2) - These are before the first timing point. Move timing point to 00:00:595 (1) Not really necessary also it'll broke the combo that we've set up in this map
   
2. 00:06:557 (4) - New combo Nope, didn't find any reason for NC
   
3. 00:08:672 (3,4) - Stack? Intentionally to not to be stacked
   
4. Equal spacing between these. #6 is closer to #5, but #5 is further away from #4
   
5. 00:15:980 (5) - New combo
6. 00:19:057 (4) - ^ Same
7. 00:43:864 (7) - ^ Same same
   
8. 00:54:826 (3,4) - Fix slider overlap
9. 01:00:403 (2,3) - ^ Same This is pkhg's but I don't think he's gonna do this. fyi the Slider overlap that he made are intentionally created and it still looks pleasing
   
10. 01:03:864 (2) - Move closer to 01:02:903 (1) Narcissu's but i think this is fine as it is since 1>2 are intetionally created for the emphasis
    
11. 01:19:441 (3,4) - Move closer as well, to show that the slider is 1/4th of a beat after #3 Nope, I want to give some emphasis to 4 since it has a sudden strong vocal.
    
12. 01:50:595 (1) - New combo nope, it shouldn't be here
    
13. 03:45:788 (1) - Green timing point lasts for 1/4th of a beat, but has Kiai enabled. Disable it Nope, I intentionally did this to use the spray for the map
    
14. 04:58:288 (1,2) - Ok, WAY too big of a jump. Make it a bit smaller This "WAY too big jump" are actually pretty supported with sudden super strong instruments therefore it plays fine
    
15. 05:24:057 (4) - New combo
16. 05:39:249 (6,7,8) - ^
17. 05:42:134 (5,6,7) - ^ Unfortunately, no.
    
    Generally, focus on spacing. It's off.
    
    If this is unhelpful, ignore it and don't give me kudosu Good luck!

A BCDe wrote:

Hi~

00:13:672 (1,2,3) - at least make 3 a blanket of end of 1 It is already blanket , yes?
00:26:364 (1) - rotate it a bit to make a smooth curve pkhg's
00:36:557 (4,5) - the distance is different from others. Since it can be x0.7 like the others, consider moving 4. pkhg's
00:43:864 (7,8,9,1) - this can be polished. It's already polished enough for me. if you have any suggestions feel free to shoot!
01:15:211 (1,2,3) - 1 and 3, or at least 1, can be a blanket of 2. I don't really understand what's this supposed to be mean , but I don't plan on blanketing stuff around here.
01:21:364 (1) - make previous DS to be 0.35 or similar. It'll break the structure so nope
01:27:518 (1) - make this to be a rotate of 2 it'll break the flow from the previous object and it actually plays fine for 1>2
01:52:902 (3) - move this to (195, 267) don't think so, it'll break the structure on 01:52:710 (2,3,4,5,6) -
02:01:364 (1,2) - make these two same. (symmetric) it is already same yes?
02:22:903 (1) - make previous DS to be 0.5 or similar ooh, right.
03:17:326 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - maybe this can be a square. consider, please Garden's
03:18:288 - Yay!
03:21:557 (2) - move three dots to (299, 258), (283, 206), and (292, 164), in order Narcissu
03:58:288 (3) - NC here, not 03:57:711 (1) - here woops , fixed
05:24:249 - let 4 be here. nope!, I want to do double click on this part
05:37:903 (3) - move the third dot to (240, 320) it doesn't change anything!

I really like the song!
Waiting for the map to be ranked!

Ametrin wrote:

nm from my q

mod

00:41:364 (1) - ctrl+g? nope i want to emphasize 6>1 therefore the current one is good
01:41:557 (1,2) - NC at 2 right
01:58:095 (1,2) - why not make a blanket didn't plan to
01:59:634 (7) - NC nope, it'll break the consitency
03:46:749 (3,4) - too close it's fine
04:09:057 (5) - NC no real reasons for NC!
05:21:941 (2,3) - blanket adjusted a bit

1. 00:01:365 (3,4) - It's just a suggestion, but I think that would fit pretty well if you would replace those beats by a simple reverse slider. And that would also give a better rhythm flow with this note: 00:02:518 (5) - because it's pretty stronger than this one: 00:02:134 (4) - so that would emphasize well in my opinion
2. 00:05:595 (3) - Even if you reduced the sound of this sliderend, I still think that this slider is questionnable, I think that a simple circle would be better because it looks like this is ending to nowhere. A circle would be better in my opinion
3. 00:28:095 (5,6) - Why not replacing those two beats by a slider, because it would fit with the vocals, and also, it would avoid those 1/4 clickable beats that could feel quite random to a player that doesn't really know the song
4. 00:44:441 (1,2,3,4) - It feels pretty strange here in my opinion, because since the begining you're following the vocals, and this time, you're ignoring it, so try to make this part following the vocals, even if the beat in the background is pretty strong. Moreover, you continued to follow the vocals here: 00:50:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - (i think that's not the same mapper for the both part, but even wiith that, you should adapt yourself, because like this it make a big difference of rhythm pattern)
5. 01:52:902 (3,4,5) - I really think that the flow here could be improved, by like for exemple moving a bit this slider: 01:53:479 (5) - to the left, to make it the flow better, and also to avoid the linear and sharp flow here: 01:53:288 (4,5) -
6. 02:01:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Like previously, try to keep a constant rhythm pattern, because you're using two different patterns in the same part, so it can be quite misunderstood by some players.
7. 02:07:326 (1) - This beat feels pretty random like this, don't put it, except if you map this part: 02:05:980 - to 02:07:134 -
8. 02:25:211 (5) - I think that we hear a 1/3 rhythm pattern here, so why not mapping this, since it's pretty similar to this one: 02:21:749 (4,5,6,7,8) - ? you can map it with repeating sliders if you want to map it
9. 02:56:364 (5,6,1) - I don't get the reason why this doublet is so much spaced, since it's a calm part :/ Maybe changing this?
10. 03:20:595 (3,4) - Maybe reducing a bit this spacing here, because there is a huge difference between the distance here: 03:20:211 (2,3) - and here: 03:20:595 (3,4) - even if the syllabs here 03:20:595 (3,4) - is pretty stronger, it doesn't deserve to have such a big difference I guess
11. 04:59:057 (4,5) - I think that you should avoid these spacing, because there is a 1/8 gap, and it a pretty short gap to make a big move like this, compared to the spacing you gave to 1/4 beats. Also I don't get why it's stacked note here: 04:59:538 (5,1) -
12. 05:35:980 (4) - NC this slider, because this is a new part.
13. 05:45:980 (1) - A spinner would be so much better, because the slider you use, end somewhere that there is no notable beat to stop a slider, it feels pretty random

Pachiru wrote:

1. 00:01:365 (3,4) - It's just a suggestion, but I think that would fit pretty well if you would replace those beats by a simple reverse slider. And that would also give a better rhythm flow with this note: 00:02:518 (5) - because it's pretty stronger than this one: 00:02:134 (4) - so that would emphasize well in my opinion good point! but I'm not fancy enough to ignore a delicious clickable sound like 00:02:134 - left unclicked.
2. 00:05:595 (3) - Even if you reduced the sound of this sliderend, I still think that this slider is questionnable, I think that a simple circle would be better because it looks like this is ending to nowhere. A circle would be better in my opinion Yes, I actually did try to use a single circle at here but no matter what , I keep thinking that it's not gonna work because of the "kinda" long sound that produced at here and it'll be a bit awkward to make it a sinlge slider instead.
3. 00:28:095 (5,6) - Why not replacing those two beats by a slider, because it would fit with the vocals, and also, it would avoid those 1/4 clickable beats that could feel quite random to a player that doesn't really know the song pkhg's
4. 00:44:441 (1,2,3,4) - It feels pretty strange here in my opinion, because since the begining you're following the vocals, and this time, you're ignoring it, so try to make this part following the vocals, even if the beat in the background is pretty strong. Moreover, you continued to follow the vocals here: 00:50:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - (i think that's not the same mapper for the both part, but even wiith that, you should adapt yourself, because like this it make a big difference of rhythm pattern) right, I can just add a circle on 00:45:018 - and it should be fine now
5. 01:52:902 (3,4,5) - I really think that the flow here could be improved, by like for exemple moving a bit this slider: 01:53:479 (5) - to the left, to make it the flow better, and also to avoid the linear and sharp flow here: 01:53:288 (4,5) - right, I moved 4 to somewhere else and it's not something linear anymore
6. 02:01:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Like previously, try to keep a constant rhythm pattern, because you're using two different patterns in the same part, so it can be quite misunderstood by some players. right
7. 02:07:326 (1) - This beat feels pretty random like this, don't put it, except if you map this part: 02:05:980 - to 02:07:134 - added a circle on 02:07:134 - and hope it'll works
8. 02:25:211 (5) - I think that we hear a 1/3 rhythm pattern here, so why not mapping this, since it's pretty similar to this one: 02:21:749 (4,5,6,7,8) - ? you can map it with repeating sliders if you want to map it It's actually 1/6 but nice one!
9. 02:56:364 (5,6,1) - I don't get the reason why this doublet is so much spaced, since it's a calm part :/ Maybe changing this? pkhg's
10. 03:20:595 (3,4) - Maybe reducing a bit this spacing here, because there is a huge difference between the distance here: 03:20:211 (2,3) - and here: 03:20:595 (3,4) - even if the syllabs here 03:20:595 (3,4) - is pretty stronger, it doesn't deserve to have such a big difference I guess Narcissu's
11. 04:59:057 (4,5) - I think that you should avoid these spacing, because there is a 1/8 gap, and it a pretty short gap to make a big move like this, compared to the spacing you gave to 1/4 beats. Also I don't get why it's stacked note here: 04:59:538 (5,1) - there's quite a sound at here but yeah,
    i unstacked 5. actually nvm, there's no need to map this
12. 05:35:980 (4) - NC this slider, because this is a new part. sure thing
13. 05:45:980 (1) - A spinner would be so much better, because the slider you use, end somewhere that there is no notable beat to stop a slider, it feels pretty random unfortunately no, I tried with spinner but don't thik that the spinner's movement would do well in this sound

that's all, good luck

Mir wrote:

On request.

Only general thing is your snare hitsound is very weak compared to the song's. I can barely hear it and especially in parts like 04:28:288 (6,7) - it really falls short compared to the rest of the hitsounds used. Maybe find a punchier snare? Chaned

If I say 1/2 I mean 1/4 in 78 bpm and so on.

[ Pashunagar]

1. 00:10:595 (1,2,3) - I feel like this whole rhythm should be more equal. It doesn't make sense to me to put a slider on the first two piano notes and then circles for the next two when they're all the same intensity. Try a reverse for 00:10:595 (1,2) - or making all circles. circle'd all
   
2. 00:12:903 (4) - Noticeably stronger sound but is emphasized the same as the rest of the pattern. Try spacing 4 from 3 http://i.imgur.com/vIWLwTY.png // 02:15:980 (5,6,7) - done
   
3. 00:13:672 (1) - Uwaah curves like this don't usually look too nice imo, maybe curving it the same as 00:14:826 (3) - because then it couples nicely together. yes
   
4. 00:17:326 - Skipping this drum is kind of awkward considering it's quite prominent in the song. Maybe a circle here? http://i.imgur.com/cg3s2G7.png good idea
   
5. 00:21:364 (4) - The bass here is pretty swingy. Perhaps reverse here on blue to capture that? sure, i can try that
   
6. 00:22:326 - Could do something about this sound too if you want to. 1/6'd , right
   
7. 00:24:634 (1) - I think removing this spinner would actually give more emphasis on the silence. Spinning on nearly no sound isn't very fitting imo. 00:25:980 - Could start a circle here stacked on the head of 00:26:364 (1) - if you so want. agreed
   
8. 00:50:018 (5) - Spacing kind of screwed up? dunno what's this supposed to be mean, but i nerfed its ds into 1.0
   
9. 01:24:057 - Skipping this feels very weird because it's very prominent in the song. I get that you've been following the vocals for this part but maybe consider a 1/2 slider? done
   
10. 01:48:768 - I don't think this is a necessary note. The vocal isn't held over the downbeat nor is there a triple in the song so I think you can remove this? // 04:59:538 - 05:05:691 (10) - removed , all of 'em
    
11. 02:00:787 (11) - Feels a little weak emphasis-wise with the finish on this and considering 02:00:211 (8,9,10) - are spaced roughly the same. Maybe try buffing this? done
    
12. 02:05:211 (3) - The stronger beat is on the blue so not really sure about this slider. Maybe make 3 a reverse and 02:05:788 - a circle since 02:05:403 - sounds to me at least like the strongest drum, so it should be on at least a reverse. did somerhing else instead
    
13. 02:18:864 (5,6) - While 6 isn't necessarily stronger, musically more stress is placed on the 6, so maybe try to emphasize that stress somehow? I came up with this http://i.imgur.com/evjRpmb.png but you can do whatever you feel works. right, buffed it
    
14. 02:21:749 (4,5,6,7,8) - These all feel... very off in terms of timing. sounds fine to me it just the drum's sound from the music are fucked
    
15. 02:27:711 (1) - Same deal with the spinner deletion but maybe instead try a reverse slider from 02:28:288 - to lead into the next section instead ? agreed
    
16. 02:51:364 (2,3,4) - This flows very uncomfortably compared to your other uses for vocals. They don't stand out particularly at least to me and at 02:45:211 (2,3,4) - you used relatively comfortable flow so... yeah. Maybe play around with this to make the transition from 3 to 4 a bit nicer? done
    
17. 02:56:653 (6,1) - 1/4 spaced the same as the previous 1/2 02:56:172 (4) - I think will cause misreads. Perhaps move this closer to the slider end? pkhg's
    
18. 03:05:403 (3) - This musical stress feels underemphasized imo, since the song has a slight pause between this note yet 03:04:249 (1,2) - which don't have this special paused were mapped the same way. pkhg's
    
19. 03:23:672 (4) - Missing clap. clapped
    
20. 03:33:288 (6,1) - I think the implied visual flow to the 1 is too direct, which can cause misreads. It flows too comfortably so the player might just hit 1 without looking, as opposed to 03:17:711 (6,7,1) - where the flow is more stressed. Maybe moving the 6 somewhere higher - maybe under the end of 03:31:941 (1) - would help? Narcissu's
    
21. 03:39:634 - There isn't really a sound here and I don't really think overmapping fits this song very well considering the density has been fairly faithful to the song so far. You could make 03:39:441 (5) - a slider instead or stack 5 on 03:39:826 (1) - for that little emphasis pause and remove the 6 altogether. Narcissu's
    
22. 03:54:634 - This note being skipped feels very weird because it is an extremely noticeable and powerful sound that is core for this transition. Having mapped it at 03:56:557 (5,9) and at 04:03:672 (8) - at least having the slider end of 03:54:441 (7) - land on it would be better and more consistent imo. did something else and better instead
    
23. 04:07:903 (2,3,4) - Drums don't feel emphasized as they come in due to 04:07:518 (1) - being part of the same pattern yet without drums on it. Maybe make 1 two stacked circles or move 2 and co. away from 1 so that there's at least a spacing change. there
    
24. 04:29:057 (1,2,3) - Feels a bit cramped, move 3 a bit away and adjust 2 accordingly? pkhg's
    
25. 04:35:211 (1) - This start just sounds very... weird. It might play better snapped to 1/12 like so http://i.imgur.com/MoL5q9A.png but if you do that I highly recommend lowering the volume of the tick on 04:35:916 - since that might tilt people. pkhg's
    
26. 04:58:288 (1,2) - I think this jump is a bit too strong for only violins. There aren't drums here or anything, it's just two relatively stronger violins. A jump like http://i.imgur.com/BbkzaJo.png would be more reasonable imo. nerfed, feelsbadman
    
27. 05:01:364 (7) - Could be a reverse to capture the drums. Now that I think of it this probably applies elsewhere. let's undermap this then .
    
28. 04:59:634 - For the kiai, I feel like some of these jumps are unreasonably spaced, like 05:04:249 (6) - is really high despite not being a strong sound like 05:05:211 (9). For 9 you could lower the spacing of 05:05:018 (8,9) - overall because a nearly 4x jump is pretty overdone imo for just a vocal. 05:07:518 (7) - Is also too far away from 05:07:326 (6) - imo comparing to the former kiais and just overall spacing of the map. Generally the last kiai feels like Light Insane difficulty while the rest of the map feels like a Hard difficulty. I strongly recommend nerfing some of the jumps here, like 05:08:480 (9) - is 5.48x that's ridiculous! I agree but in the same time , I do not agree. As you can see this last kiai is actually different with the other previous kiai since in this kiai ALL of the participant singer sings together and also it's super strong too. That's explain the sudden difficulty gap happens. But I do nerf some jumps so.
    
29. 05:24:057 (4) - Could NC to get rid of the follow point that might show up to ruin the pause. I know I don't like it when there's a calm pause and there's just a random follow point going across the screen lol. rol

Good luck!

1. 00:10:980 - suggest to make it clicable, 00:10:595 (1,2) - have increases in intensity, 2 beats, each stronger than previous. Or make smthing like https://puu.sh/vErr9.jpg and use 00:11:364 - beat as "stop".
2. 00:11:749 (3,1) - 00:11:364 (3,4) - buff spacing as 4 strongest beat around
3. 00:16:749 (1,2,3) -kinda questionable spacing because 2 noticeably weaker 3, mb http://puu.sh/vEtpH.jpg 1,5ds to 00:17:326 (2) - 2,0ds to 00:17:518 (3) -
4. 00:21:364 (4) - 1/4 reverse for catch blue tick beat?
5. 00:22:134 (5,6) - suggest use 2 1/4 sliders for better fits instruments also anyway 00:22:326 - pretty noticable beat at least maybe catch it?
6. 00:30:018 (2) - 1/32 snaping?, it sounds correct but is it legit?)
7. 00:35:980 - we are following vocals or piano? i mean i don't see any reason for catch vocals without beat and beat without strong vocals.... You usually skip white tick piano sounds so make sense use 1/2 slider here too https://puu.sh/vEudM.jpg . At least You might make pattern more "melodic"(like more stretched, have no idea how to describe...) like https://puu.sh/vEuJ1.jpg
8. 00:38:672 (2,3,4) - fix blankets and visual spacing between 2-3 and 2-4 or at least make same curve on sliders hhh... https://puu.sh/vEsM0.jpg and You can make 00:39:634 (4) - end on 1 line with 00:40:980 (6) - . This pattern hurts me inside tbh
9. 00:42:711 (4) - make sense to buff ds before sinse it's strongest beat around also strong vocals
10. 00:41:364 (1,2,3,4) - hmm, mb https://puu.sh/vEutj.jpg
11. 00:45:018 (2) - why 2.8? beat is weak and tbh i have no idea why spacing is starting increase so fast... i can understand it on sliders 00:45:980 (4,5) - but 00:47:326 (6,1) - 00:45:018 (2,3) - is questionable jumps. I feel like 2.4 and 2.8 for them more tan enough...
12. 00:44:441 (1,4) - stack is off
13. 00:46:749 (5,6) - ^
14. 01:27:518 (1,2) - use same shape of slider for visual consistency?
15. 01:31:364 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/vEw5a.jpg make drums clicable?
16. 01:45:018 (7,8) - crl-g each for circular flow?
17. 01:45:788 (1,2) - stack as You did before for 1/2?
18. 01:54:826 (8,1) - since there circular flow make sense to make more soft angle https://puu.sh/vEwq6.jpg
19. 02:15:788 (4,5,6,7) - make one line сonsidering stack on 2
20. 02:19:826 (1) - make jump? as it strongest beat around , make emphasis on it
21. 02:16:749 (1,2,3,4) - Don't You want to make something more nicely for watching? like https://puu.sh/vEx6A.jpg
22. 02:56:653 (6,1) - nice, but it's inconsistently with map structure, so i suggest make usual stack
23. 02:56:941 (2,1) - stack off , check 02:58:095 (1,3) - after as well
24. 02:57:518 (3,4,5,1) - this flow suggestion https://puu.sh/vExPk.jpg
25. 03:04:249 (1,2,3) - Mb try smthing like https://puu.sh/vExWL.jpg 03:05:211 - because this beat really strong and 03:05:018 - kinda noticable
26. 03:37:518 (2,1) - blanket
27. 03:43:672 (4,5,6) - sounds minimun equal to 03:42:134 (4,5,6) - mb even stronger , so spacing is kinda questionable
28. 03:45:980 - kiai ends????
29. 04:20:018 - okay.... it's really strong beat, wich should be clicable, especially because your pattern based on equal beats 04:20:595 (2,3,4) -
30. 04:38:288 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/vEyJt.jpg or https://puu.sh/vEyLW.jpg more correct for vocals imo
31. 05:05:788 (1,2,3) - blanket off
32. 05:38:480 (4) - 1.78 like you did before
33. 05:48:993 (2) - 05:49:313 - why did't end it here?
    Some times i was feeling like spacing on map overall inconsistent , might be because mappers' style is pretty different... but generally it's fine, as i can say.

Mitkoff wrote:

Hello
NM from my q.
Nice song choice

[Pashunagar]

1. 00:10:980 - suggest to make it clicable, 00:10:595 (1,2) - have increases in intensity, 2 beats, each stronger than previous. Or make smthing like https://puu.sh/vErr9.jpg and use 00:11:364 - beat as "stop". I made everything clickable instead
2. 00:11:749 (3,1) - 00:11:364 (3,4) - buff spacing as 4 strongest beat around It's not the strongest but yeah, I can buff it
3. 00:16:749 (1,2,3) -kinda questionable spacing because 2 noticeably weaker 3, mb http://puu.sh/vEtpH.jpg 1,5ds to 00:17:326 (2) - 2,0ds to 00:17:518 (3) - yes , btw did you changed the BG? lol[
4. 00:21:364 (4) - 1/4 reverse for catch blue tick beat?
5. 00:22:134 (5,6) - suggest use 2 1/4 sliders for better fits instruments also anyway 00:22:326 - pretty noticable beat at least maybe catch it? That'd be confusing to the players, let;s avoid it
6. 00:30:018 (2) - 1/32 snaping?, it sounds correct but is it legit?) what? It's snapped on 1/4
7. 00:35:980 - we are following vocals or piano? i mean i don't see any reason for catch vocals without beat and beat without strong vocals.... You usually skip white tick piano sounds so make sense use 1/2 slider here too https://puu.sh/vEudM.jpg . At least You might make pattern more "melodic"(like more stretched, have no idea how to describe...) like https://puu.sh/vEuJ1.jpg pkhg's
8. 00:38:672 (2,3,4) - fix blankets and visual spacing between 2-3 and 2-4 or at least make same curve on sliders hhh... https://puu.sh/vEsM0.jpg and You can make 00:39:634 (4) - end on 1 line with 00:40:980 (6) - . This pattern hurts me inside tbh yes yes
9. 00:42:711 (4) - make sense to buff ds before sinse it's strongest beat around also strong vocals sure
10. 00:41:364 (1,2,3,4) - hmm, mb https://puu.sh/vEutj.jpg did somerhing else
11. 00:45:018 (2) - why 2.8? beat is weak and tbh i have no idea why spacing is starting increase so fast... i can understand it on sliders 00:45:980 (4,5) - but 00:47:326 (6,1) - 00:45:018 (2,3) - is questionable jumps. I feel like 2.4 and 2.8 for them more tan enough... I don't really understand but I fixed the inconsistent jump at here
12. 00:44:441 (1,4) - stack is off
13. 00:46:749 (5,6) - ^ dunno what's wrong with stacks nowadays
14. 01:27:518 (1,2) - use same shape of slider for visual consistency? right
15. 01:31:364 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/vEw5a.jpg make drums clicable? Nope!, It'll contradicting with the cymbal plays at here
16. 01:45:018 (7,8) - crl-g each for circular flow? it is already pretty circular one
17. 01:45:788 (1,2) - stack as You did before for 1/2? naaah, don't really have to
18. 01:54:826 (8,1) - since there circular flow make sense to make more soft angle https://puu.sh/vEwq6.jpg right
19. 02:15:788 (4,5,6,7) - make one line сonsidering stack on 2 i don't really understand but yeah, I did some changes
20. 02:19:826 (1) - make jump? as it strongest beat around , make emphasis on it right
21. 02:16:749 (1,2,3,4) - Don't You want to make something more nicely for watching? like https://puu.sh/vEx6A.jpg sure
22. 02:56:653 (6,1) - nice, but it's inconsistently with map structure, so i suggest make usual stack pkhg's
23. 02:56:941 (2,1) - stack off , check 02:58:095 (1,3) - after as well fixed for pkhg
24. 02:57:518 (3,4,5,1) - this flow suggestion https://puu.sh/vExPk.jpg pkhg's
25. 03:04:249 (1,2,3) - Mb try smthing like https://puu.sh/vExWL.jpg 03:05:211 - because this beat really strong and 03:05:018 - kinda noticable pkhg's
26. 03:37:518 (2,1) - blanket Narcissu's
27. 03:43:672 (4,5,6) - sounds minimun equal to 03:42:134 (4,5,6) - mb even stronger , so spacing is kinda questionable Narcissu's
28. 03:45:980 - kiai ends???? yep, I only want the spray at here
29. 04:20:018 - okay.... it's really strong beat, wich should be clicable, especially because your pattern based on equal beats 04:20:595 (2,3,4) - Narcissu's
30. 04:38:288 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/vEyJt.jpg or https://puu.sh/vEyLW.jpg more correct for vocals imo pkhg's
31. 05:05:788 (1,2,3) - blanket off f
32. 05:38:480 (4) - 1.78 like you did beforeyeaah
33. 05:48:993 (2) - 05:49:313 - why did't end it here? it's fine i guess
    Some times i was feeling like spacing on map overall inconsistent , might be because mappers' style is pretty different... but generally it's fine, as i can say. That's pretty much the concept of the map, because the song is performed by numerous different artist means we want to give you numerous experiences!

That's it. Hope You'll find smthing usefull.
Goodluck~

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[asdf]
00:04:441 (1,2) - How about blanket? nope, not planning to do so
00:12:903 (4,5,6) - I think you can emphaasize more. naah, it's already enough
00:18:480 - I think you should add a beat? this part has drum sound. I'm undermapped it , for now
00:22:903 - ^ oh, right, I missed it
01:14:441 (5,6) - I suggest you stack. 01:14:634 - has no sound agree
02:22:518 (8,1) - looks hard to read imo it's intentionally to be hard
02:45:211 (2,3,4) - weird flow right,
03:41:941 (2,3,4) - stack? Narcissu's
04:45:788 (1) - unnecessary NC yes

GL

Mir wrote:

[*] 03:05:403 (3) - This musical stress feels underemphasized imo, since the song has a slight pause between this note yet 03:04:249 (1,2) - which don't have this special paused were mapped the same way. …… collab so .. other people without anti jump
[*] 03:23:672 (4) - Missing clap. …… fix
[*] 03:33:288 (6,1) - I think the implied visual flow to the 1 is too direct, which can cause misreads. It flows too comfortably so the player might just hit 1 without looking, as opposed to 03:17:711 (6,7,1) - where the flow is more stressed. Maybe moving the 6 somewhere higher - maybe under the end of 03:31:941 (1) - would help? …… as above
[*] 04:29:057 (1,2,3) - Feels a bit cramped, move 3 a bit away and adjust 2 accordingly?……keyi

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6th wrote:

Hey Hi

00:22:134 (1,2) - You never followed violin before so no reason to do it here. Same applies for 02:25:211 (5,6) - I actually did follow the violins and also the violion's sounds at here is pretty song so..
00:25:980 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Rhythm here is questionable. The lack of slider here 00:27:326 (4) - clearly show that you want to follow instruments and not focus on vocals but you give priority to vocals at 00:28:095 (6,7,8) - . pkhg's
00:30:018 (2) - I really can't get why you do that but then you ignore 00:30:531 - just after. It feels like you're trying to follow both vocals and instruments in a way that doesn't work at all ): pkhg's
00:44:441 (1,2,3) - You should make spacing between (2) and (3) a bit lower just to make sure that people won't click on blue tick instead of white one to follow vocals. I don't really understand but uuhh did some adjustmens , I guess
01:05:211 (5,6) - Having low spacing here really ruins the momentum that (4) brings and feels really weird because speed is increasing again right after. Narcissu's
01:06:557 (2,3) - Increase spacing a bit between them ? Current spacing doesn't represent vocals, and increasing it would also make this 01:06:941 (3,4) - a bit less brutal. Narcissu's
01:13:672 (3,4) - Vocals are stopping here so you may want to decrease spacing instead of increasing it. hmmm, don't think this is necessary
01:14:057 (4,5,6,7) - Hmm I do think that you should use consistent spacing. Stacking 5/6 AND increasing spacing between 6 and 7 feels a bit too much. but it plays pretty well so gonna keep this
01:45:018 (7,8) - The song doesn't support such spacing increase. the strings
01:47:326 (5,6,7) - Could look better if they were visually equally spaced since they are straight. did something
02:17:903 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Confusing. This 02:18:480 (4,5) - looks like an 1/2 stack because the spacing between 02:18:864 (5,6) - is large. right
02:21:557 - Unconsistency, it should be clickable like 02:18:864 (5) -
By the way, why does 02:21:749 (4,5,6,7,8) - really sound off to me ?
02:36:749 (3) - This kinda lacks of emphasis Garden's
02:38:864 (2,3) - CTRL+G rhythm ? Fits better with vocals, also it would be more coherent with 02:36:364 (2,3,4) - Garden's
02:56:364 (5,6,1) - This is really surprising for players since it's the first time that kind of thing appears in your map. I really recommand using consistent spacing. pkhg;s
03:05:980 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Global spacing is high in this combo so I recommand increasing it a bit between 03:08:288 (6,7) - Garden's
03:23:288 (2,3) - Lower spacing to describe the song better ? Narcissu's
03:33:095 (5,6) - Spacing really needs to be increased here, to contrast with the gap between 03:33:288 (6,1) - . Narcissu's
03:37:518 (2,1) - Blanket ? Narcissu's
04:34:057 (1,2) - Just a suggestion, remove them ? It works better with the spinner. pkhg's
05:16:557 (6,7) - Spacing is too high, sliderbreaking (6) is really easy. nerfed a bit
05:18:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Rhythm is really monotonous here and doesn't bring enough content. I'm giving them some rest / cooldown at here
05:24:057 (1) - Is a circle really needed ? Imo you could have just started the spinner here since there's no real sound to map. yes, it is needed there's a pretty clickable voice at there

Good luck.

6th wrote:

01:05:211 (5,6) - Having low spacing here really ruins the momentum that (4) brings and feels really weird because speed is increasing again right after. …… i want to map simpler here
01:06:557 (2,3) - Increase spacing a bit between them ? Current spacing doesn't represent vocals, and increasing it would also make this 01:06:941 (3,4) - a bit less brutal.
03:23:288 (2,3) - Lower spacing to describe the song better ? …… fix
03:33:095 (5,6) - Spacing really needs to be increased here, to contrast with the gap between 03:33:288 (6,1) - . …… antijump is my wish
03:37:518 (2,1) - Blanket ?

Astarte wrote:

1. 00:11:941 (1) - ik its stacked but somehow still kinda hard to read for me. a triple would be better imo, since that triplet is quite strong
2. 00:45:018 (2) - 00:47:326 (6) - wonder why these 2 are the only ones being so close to the sliderends in the whole map?
3. 01:03:288 - is the map mostly vocal oriented? if so then y skipped this? i believe you didn't skipped any vocal notes before and it feels awkward. same with 03:36:749 (1) - ... …… ye i follow voice, i use slider here like …… fade in ?
4. 02:46:364 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - not sure what these are trying to do? its a very calm part and doesn't support an increase in density
5. 02:47:326 - but then u missed a triplet here i think
6. 03:18:288 (1) - this has the same distance as previous notes but not the same gap. don't think it'd be easy to read. imo stack it under the prev note or at least semistack. same with 03:33:672 (1) - ... antijump is my wish, I don't think it's easy, i want to map hard here.. hard to read is hard and if player listen to the music carefully, they can FC it relaxed
7. 03:50:018 - think this violin note is something to not miss out since you are following strings here
8. 03:54:634 (1) - why is this suddenly way too slow? i mean although i don't really understand slowing it down for the part, its fine but halved is way too much. it's the opposite when u play the violin btw
9. 04:35:018 - there's still a sound here and leaving it blank makes the player press the next note early imo. add a circle like what u did here 04:41:172 (3) -
10. 04:39:826 - again skipping a rather important vocal note. can we have a slider here or something
11. 05:02:326 (9) - dont see why a full antiflow captures this part well. imo ctrl h this
12. 05:04:826 (7) - given low ar stacking a circle behind a sliderend is kinda hard to read. y not do semistacks like u did everywhere else?

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TheKingHenry wrote:

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Tfw there are more artists in this song than there are characters in your avegare VN lul lul

Pashunagar

1. From AiMod: 2 timing points exists at the same stamp at 03:54:634 - f
2. 00:05:595 (3) - wouldn't just a circle fit this sound better? It's not prolonged or held in anyway naah, slider fits better for a kinda long piano's sound
3. 00:44:441 (1,2,3) - why not go with the same type of patterning as earlier with these? Like 00:26:749 (3,4,5) - having the space that way in-between of them works a lot better than having the larger spacing from the circle. Same at 00:46:749 (5,6,1) - and maybe at more places too, won't mention 'em here yeah, right, i agree
4. 01:15:211 (1,2) - kinda nazi but it bother me here since it's clearly supposed to be a clean blanket. So yeah, sliderbody too straight for blanket, doesn't look good (the visual distance from the circle to the sliderbody doesn't stay constant for the blanketing area). There are probably a lot more blankets off here and there, I won't go nitpicking on them except if something really catches my eye. Just fix them as you find them alright alright, blanketed
5. 01:46:364 - there are lot of short breaks like these in this map, sometimes it works, sometimes it's unnecessary and feels unnatural. Here, for example, you should definitely map smth for the break too, there's pretty distinct sound there, which is actually stronger than the following (mapped) sound at 01:46:557 (2) - so yeah you should go through these as well and see if they work or not. I'll probably mention some others if they bother me, but not all added a circle then
6. 01:49:826 (4,5) - another pretty clear fixable blanket done
7. 01:54:441 (8,9,1) - while the stacking looks clean here, I think these could use more spacing for the emphasis. More like, especially 01:54:826 (9) - did some reworks around hre
8. 02:19:633 (9,1) - kinda huge spacing considering all the low spaced circles before have the same distance rhythm-wise. All problems reading it aside (there will be those as well likely), it's also not really logical on how it expresses the music when the last one has like 4 times the spacing of all the sounds before. The sound at 02:19:826 (1) - isn't really that massively huge lol. Like, compare the place and it's patterning to 02:22:518 (8,1) - and you see how things are going to get fucked up aight, nerfed
9. 02:25:980 (1) - Needs circle here (similarly to how 00:22:903 (3,1) - was done. Keep it consistent) done
10. 03:33:288 (6,1) - close these in to create anti-jump? Currently the spacing is very similar to the jumps before and will be confused with them Narcissu's
11. 04:07:711 (2,3) - pretty distinct triple here, would just map it reworked
12. 05:04:249 (6,7) - no reason to suddenly do this kind of thing when there's like zero of them before yes

Good luck!

Astarte wrote:

Hey "first" victim customer Hello there
Might want to check aimod fixed stuffs

1. 00:11:941 (1) - ik its stacked but somehow still kinda hard to read for me. a triple would be better imo, since that triplet is quite strong let's give it a try then
2. 00:45:018 (2) - 00:47:326 (6) - wonder why these 2 are the only ones being so close to the sliderends in the whole map? fixed, my bad
3. 01:03:288 - is the map mostly vocal oriented? if so then y skipped this? i believe you didn't skipped any vocal notes before and it feels awkward. same with 03:36:749 (1) - ...
4. 02:46:364 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - not sure what these are trying to do? its a very calm part and doesn't support an increase in density yeah,
   right. did something pretty major
5. 02:47:326 - but then u missed a triplet here i think yeah, right
6. 03:18:288 (1) - this has the same distance as previous notes but not the same gap. don't think it'd be easy to read. imo stack it under the prev note or at least semistack. same with 03:33:672 (1) - ...
7. 03:50:018 - think this violin note is something to not miss out since you are following strings here right
8. 03:54:634 (1) - why is this suddenly way too slow? i mean although i don't really understand slowing it down for the part, its fine but halved is way too much. it's the opposite when u play the violin btw speeded up a bit
9. 04:35:018 - there's still a sound here and leaving it blank makes the player press the next note early imo. add a circle like what u did here 04:41:172 (3) - pkhg's
10. 04:39:826 - again skipping a rather important vocal note. can we have a slider here or something pkhg's
11. 05:02:326 (9) - dont see why a full antiflow captures this part well. imo ctrl h this
12. 05:04:826 (7) - given low ar stacking a circle behind a sliderend is kinda hard to read. y not do semistacks like u did everywhere else? did something else

thats all but it seems to me that u dont pay much attention to aesthetics. throughout the map there are places that could have/improve blankets like 00:39:634 (4,5) - 01:49:826 (4,5) - 01:55:018 (1,2,3) - 02:22:518 (8,1) - ... i can't blanket properly aa
dont know if you intend to blanket those or not, but they give an impression that the map isnt very polished and objects are rather... sloppily placed i'd say.
well not like its a big problem anyway

Well thats all i have. GL
btw i'm quite curious about metadata, and also the diff name too lol

Uta wrote:

Mods~~~~

- 00:02:518 (5,6) Stack Sengaja ini
- 00:30:018 (2) - Slider tail should be here 00:30:307 - and add more distance to this slider 00:30:595 (3) - (that part of the song sounded weird tbh) This is pkhg's but probably I can speak up for him. If you tried to listen this using 25% speed you'd probably notice that the vocal on 00:30:018 - actually ends on 00:30:275 - which is actually already the correct one. And for 00:30:595 (3) - since the piano's end is much more clear so he decided to end the slider on 00:31:364 - instead 00:31:749 -
- Well 01:41:364 (6,7) - this doesn't good (in my opinion) Nope , the song did support well for this kind of jump. If that's the thing that you are talking about tho/
- 01:44:441 (6,7,8,1) - Fix the angle boi probably like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8357951 nope, it'll break the structure pretty badly
- ^ 02:24:057 (3,4,5) - well the angle can look more pretty if you fix it don't really understand what do you mean by this but i did something around here
- 04:58:288 (1,2) - Spacing ini bahkan lebih jauh daripada yg tadi~~ (I can't say this in English) ada supportnya kok, jadi cocok2 aja
- Kenapa saya tidak complain yang ini? 05:22:711 (6,7) - karena di chorus? (I can't say this in English)


05:48:993 (2) - XD wut? can you explain wut is this? sorry, I'm not judging your mapping style The acoustic guitar

demn diz sung is herd to mep boii. good luck >w<

1. the artists should have spaces in between them, per your metadata link in the previous posts. however, I suggest using just "Multiple Artists" instead and adding them all to the tags. as it is now, this map is impossible to download on Windows if the new osu! installation is used and the user account name is over 5 characters long, because "C:/Users/<username>/AppData/local/osu!/Songs/580478 LiaTada AoiKawada MamiShimamiya EikoKOTOKOUtatsuki KaoriCh/LiaTada AoiKawada MamiShimamiya EikoKOTOKOUtatsuki KaoriChataRitaLiSA - Orpheus ~Kimi to Kanaderu Ashita e no Uta~ (Shurelia) [Hymn to The World].osu" exceeds 255 characters. the Windows API can't handle filenames with lengths greater than 255, and by some process in osu!, the map just gets deleted every time it attempts to import it. this problem won't exist in lazer due to maps being stored differently, but it seems that you're going for rank before its projected release. note that you only need to change the romanised artist, not the actual one

1. consider making "The" lowercase, or "to" uppercase, for consistency. lol nazi mod
2. make 00:03:672 (7) a little more shallow of a curve, to fit aesthetically with rest of the map
3. the jump to 01:07:326 (4) is a little big for this part of the map (especially at this strange angle)
4. 01:19:634 - this rhythm better covers all of the sounds here
   
5. likewise consider adding a circle to 01:24:057
6. the jump to 01:41:557 (7) should be a little smaller I think. it's an important sound, but compared to everything else around it (even the kiai!) it's a big difficulty spike
7. 02:05:980 (5) - NC
8. maybe have 02:07:134 (6,1) be near the circle before it? the music stops so I think it'd play better if there were little/no movement
9. 02:14:826 (3,4) - imo 4 should be where 5 is, and 5 where 6, etc.
10. 02:18:480 (4,5) - note that these are potentially under players' HP bars
11. the spacing before 03:33:672 (1) makes the rhythm a little hard to read (it feels like this would be a 1/4 jump, but it's really 1/2). maybe it's better to overlap this with the note before, since there's a stop in music?
12. 04:39:441 (2) should go until the 1/8 after it
13. 04:58:288 (1,2) - same thing as last kiai, this is a little big
14. I think 05:49:249 (1) would be better to end at 05:53:288 (the last piano sound) because it has a little more impact. then the rest of the orchestra fading out serves as an outro before the score screen. the piano sound actually comes a tiny bit before the time I listed so add another timing point slightly before it if you do this

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zelda102 wrote:

#modreqs ooh, nice. Finally another good stuffs came from that

general

1. the artists should have spaces in between them, per your metadata link in the previous posts. however, I suggest using just "Multiple Artists" instead and adding them all to the tags. as it is now, this map is impossible to download on Windows if the new osu! installation is used and the user account name is over 5 characters long, because "C:/Users/<username>/AppData/local/osu!/Songs/580478 LiaTada AoiKawada MamiShimamiya EikoKOTOKOUtatsuki KaoriCh/LiaTada AoiKawada MamiShimamiya EikoKOTOKOUtatsuki KaoriChataRitaLiSA - Orpheus ~Kimi to Kanaderu Ashita e no Uta~ (Shurelia) [Hymn to The World].osu" exceeds 255 characters. the Windows API can't handle filenames with lengths greater than 255, and by some process in osu!, the map just gets deleted every time it attempts to import it. this problem won't exist in lazer due to maps being stored differently, but it seems that you're going for rank before its projected release. note that you only need to change the romanised artist, not the actual one

Holy, now that you're mentioned it. But eeeee I still want to use the closest artist title to the actual metadata. I'm gonna take this discussion to the QATS.

Hymn to The World

1. consider making "The" lowercase, or "to" uppercase, for consistency. lol nazi mod Ooh, hey I'm actually looking for someone who'd check the diff's name whether I'm doing it right or naah.
2. make 00:03:672 (7) a little more shallow of a curve, to fit aesthetically with rest of the map aiight.
3. the jump to 01:07:326 (4) is a little big for this part of the map (especially at this strange angle) Narcissu's , Thought imo it's fine as it is cause it's actually does fit with the song
4. 01:19:634 - this rhythm better covers all of the sounds here yeah, i can agree with this
   
5. likewise consider adding a circle to 01:24:057 did something else instead based on this
6. the jump to 01:41:557 (7) should be a little smaller I think. it's an important sound, but compared to everything else around it (even the kiai!) it's a big difficulty spike aight, nerfed it a bit
7. 02:05:980 (5) - NC yes
8. maybe have 02:07:134 (6,1) be near the circle before it? the music stops so I think it'd play better if there were little/no movement agree
9. 02:14:826 (3,4) - imo 4 should be where 5 is, and 5 where 6, etc. naah, I want to click the piano's sound that appear on the current 4's place and also the drums that appears after that
10. 02:18:480 (4,5) - note that these are potentially under players' HP bars adjusted
11. the spacing before 03:33:672 (1) makes the rhythm a little hard to read (it feels like this would be a 1/4 jump, but it's really 1/2). maybe it's better to overlap this with the note before, since there's a stop in music? Narcissu's
12. 04:39:441 (2) should go until the 1/8 after it yaaap, fixed this for pkhg
13. 04:58:288 (1,2) - same thing as last kiai, this is a little big naah, this is different from the previous jump. It's much much stronger than before so this jump would serves right
14. I think 05:49:249 (1) would be better to end at 05:53:288 (the last piano sound) because it has a little more impact. then the rest of the orchestra fading out serves as an outro before the score screen. the piano sound actually comes a tiny bit before the time I listed so add another timing point slightly before it if you do this hmmmmmmmmm, I still prefer the current spinner tbh but let's just see about how other players think

I really like this map, good luck! so cute

edit: confirmed mapping during the 1970 epoch Time Traveler !? :eyes:

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zelda102 wrote:

a possible solution may be for an admin to change the download for this map only, so that the mapset folder doesn't contain all of the artists (the .osu file would, though). they've done some wacky things in the past like multiple creators, so I'm sure you could get this sorted out if you contact a community manager

this would have to be done as the last update before qualification, though

smallboat wrote:

Hello Shurelia, receieved your PM, look for a while seems no big problem there, let me say some small thing :3 didn't thought that it worked lol, great to know

[Hymn to the World] (Seems missed some finish hitsound in importrant part) i suk on HS

01:42:711 (1) - Finish? (The first kiai time head need to express a heavy drum music here imo) woops
01:58:672 (2) - Move up bit make blanket make the pattern look good? it'll damage the structure quite a lot. I'll pass
02:04:441 (1) - Missed a finish? (Just like 05:21:365 (1) - here) yes, added
04:05:980 (4) - Missed a finish in slider head because have a bit finish ht there imo Drum's Finish, what do you think?
04:10:595 (1) - This single NC combo unnecessary because it is not special heavy drum imo yeah
04:15:018 (1) - The slider a heavy drum why not add finish ? sure
04:22:903 (1) - Finish? yes
05:24:057 (1) - Missed whistle? (Just like this the same part : 02:07:326 (3) -) nope as you can hear it's actually a different sound from each other.
05:45:980 (1) - Maybe can add whistle in sliderend to follow the bg music. sure

Btw, is metadata title correct? based on : http://key.soundslabel.com/discography. ... 80/ksl0080 . It's actually lacking of spaces but since osu!
can't handle more characters than the current one so I removed the spaces (I already got QAT's permission to do so tho)

Doyak wrote:

I told you, you'd better not call me xD ehehehe, but it's fine. As long you're actually giving me good feedbacks

* 00:04:441 (1,2,3) - Patterns like this are still very unstructured. By unstructured, I mean there are no logical common characteristics that integrate all notes into a pattern. In this example, (2) is on very vague position relative to (1), and the position of (3) is pretty close to (1) while (2) is just standing alone, thus there also lacks spacing consistency. This can be minor itself indeed, but I find that most of your parts are like this and needs to be improved a lot. This is just one example. aah, you're right, I missed the nice structure at here. Fixed
* 00:08:672 (3,4) - Like, for example, what if the way of stack was directly heading to 00:08:288 (2) - ? Not like you have to do it, it's just a thing you could consider. hmm, yeah Let's just stack it then
* 00:10:595 (1,2,3,4) - Even this triangle is not perfect. Moreover, it feels strange to have 00:11:364 (3,4) - same spacing as 00:10:980 (2,3) - , because while the sound on 00:10:595 (1,2,3) - were getting more intense, 00:11:749 (4) - actually loses all the intensity. It doesn't feel any same as 00:11:364 (3) - . eeeh, it's kinda hard see but you're actually right, also did some adjustments based on your guide. Right
* 00:16:749 (1,2,3) - You've never introduced spaced 1/4s until here, and doesn't show this again until next part. Just compare this to 00:17:903 (4,5) - . Actually, the sound of 00:17:326 (2) - is just same as 00:14:249 - , so they should be evenly represented. aah right, yeah, I added things that should be represented
* 00:21:172 - Not sure if you really want to skip this beat. changed 3 into a 1/4 slider
* 00:39:057 (3,4) - 00:42:134 (2,3) - They're in the same part, and there's not much intensity change. Still you changed the spacing of 1/4s a lot. Think how 00:41:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - suddenly increased the whole intensity. This continues to 00:44:441 (1,2) - 00:46:749 (5,6) - 00:48:288 (2,3) - as well, but you reverted it back on 00:50:595 (1,2) - when the song actually got more intense. did some intensity nerfs but the reason about why i mapped these blue ticks are to also following the mappablle vocal that appears around these section
* 00:51:557 - It's very strange that you ignored a large instrument sound here to follow the vocals, but you did the very opposite on 00:52:326 - to ignore a strong vocal. pkhg's
* 01:02:903 (1) - I don't get why 01:03:288 - is ignored, while you very closely follow the vocals for the entire part. This is even the very first vocal, isn't this important? Narcissu's
* 01:14:441 (5,6) - You can move these further from (4), it looks very sticky. agree
* 01:15:788 (2,3) - Please, come up with some patterns that are not ambiguous like this. yes
* 01:16:557 (4,5,6,7) - 01:24:441 (1,2,3,4) - Sometimes you randomly used these vertical/horizontal patterns. They may be good by themselves, but the problem here is that they just appear randomly, without considering how it works with the rest of the map. Your general mapping style is very soft and round. If there's nothing special in the music to be represented differently, your mapping should also remain the same. A map is an organism. As a collab, you should at least keep your parts as a part of the organism. yeah
* 01:19:634 - Can't really get why this is ignored. there's actually an object at here, also I did map 01:19:826 -
as a slider instead since there's also quite a big instrument sounds at here
* 01:19:057 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern is unbalanced, like, so much. And there's another problem. This pattern feels like I'm suddenly playing a different map, because the spacing between notes is significantly different from the previous and the next notes. Look how close the notes between 01:15:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and 01:21:364 (1,2,3,4) - are. I'm not saying you should always fix the DS. I just made a simple example here, hope you get the idea. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8565690 did something
* 01:24:057 (5) - This drum is strong, sure. But you're focusing on the vocals in general, and that one note just got out of the track alone, running away from the consistent DS. If you do something like https://doyak.s-ul.eu/DBVgNkbV , then you can make some emphasis on the drum while still keeping (5) under your control.right
* 01:30:595 - This part needs more emphasis, definitely. 01:30:018 (7) - chande into 1/4 slider since there's quite a sound on 01:30:211 -
* 01:33:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This just flows, really. But they don't create any meaningful patterns. i don't really understand about this and it's actually play and looks fine for me
* 01:36:749 (1,2) - 01:38:095 (4,5) - 01:39:057 (6,7,8) - Things like these make the map structure unstable. There is no base distance at all. An important thing here is that you want to emphasis 01:38:288 (5) - , but what you can see is that 01:38:095 (4,5) - are being together, just with a little higher DS than others. If you want to emphasis a certain sound, you need to differentiate it from unrelated notes. If you make a smooth flow between them, it makes them look like a single pattern. it's different cause the sound that created from the musics are also different therefore i did something pretty different despite it's still in one section. Well, i did something tho
* 01:42:711 (1,4,6) - One important thing that makes a map structured is integrated curves. This is yet another thing you can consider to fill your map with logic. In your map, every sliders except few copy&pasted ones have different curvature. The curved sliders are part of the map, so they all need to be organized. They can't just be exclusive to each other and just be what each of them want to be. Compare these to 01:45:788 (1) - 01:51:941 (1,3) - aight, less curved
* 01:45:788 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - And compare the spacing between these and 01:47:326 (6,7,8,9,10) - . woops
* 01:53:479 (5,6,7) - And again, it's not like the tension went down or anything even. yes
* 01:58:095 (1,2) - You only considered the DS value, and not how the spacing actually looks like. fixed
* 02:12:903 (6,7,8) - 02:15:788 (4,5,6,7) - Compare these two. You used same concept twice, but are they really just that same? They have significant difference from each other, thus needs to be represented differently, with different scale. right, buffed the 2nd
* 02:17:903 (4,5) - Even on things like this, it's better to make the spacing same as 02:18:864 (6,7) - to make it more structured. yes
* 02:20:403 - This is same as 02:17:326 (2) - , why do you ignore this fix
* 02:19:633 (10,1) - And look at this spacing, why is this even smaller than 02:17:903 (4,5) - and 02:18:864 (6,7) - ? fix
* 02:22:518 (8,1) - This is even an 1/2, with a cymbal sound. But this is similar to 02:16:749 (1,2) - ? naah, let's just say it's cooling down.
* 02:25:211 (5,6,1) - If you look back, there was 00:22:134 (1,2,3) - that had much smaller spacing. yes
* 02:48:864 (3,4) - This rhythm seems much better for me. https://doyak.s-ul.eu/HFN1FocD agreeed
* 02:52:518 (5) - Also I'd use a 1/4 slider there to not ignore 02:52:711 - right
* 03:18:288 (1) - It's very good to finish the rectangle, but I don't think the spacing here works at all. It needs more emphasis than 03:17:518 (5,6,7) - , but what you did here is to slow down the flow suddenly, thus make it very underemphasized. I'd rather try https://doyak.s-ul.eu/ZMTQwNZd (8 under 7), or something else. Narcissu's
* 03:33:672 - Again this needs to be emphasized but the flow is slowed down by the 1/1. Better to fill out 03:33:480 - somehow or just put it far away. Narcissu's
* 03:45:788 (1,3,4) - 03:49:826 (2,3,4,5) - Won't say much thing, same as the previous parts of yours. right
* 03:50:980 - Quite important to be ignored imo barely noticeable for me
* 03:52:134 (1,2,3) - 03:53:480 (4,5,6,7) - yse
* 03:58:288 (1,2,3,4,5) - This rhythm is better https://doyak.s-ul.eu/rOOb2QwF and if I were you, I'd divide most of the sliders into 1/4s because there are audible sounds and this part is quite intense. aight
* 04:01:364 (1,2,3) - Why do they only have wide spacing, and then 04:02:326 (4,5,6) - are not? Especially 4 and 6 are really strong. based on the violins , it's not but did something with the second tho
* 04:03:672 (8) - Both the head and tail sound are very important, better to divide into 2 circles. right
* 05:02:326 (9,1) - At least blanket please
* 05:04:249 (6,7,8,9) - 05:06:749 (4,5,6,7) - uhh... won't repeat ahah
* And so on...

@Shurelia: To be honest, you really need to practice to organize your map. Make strong relations between notes within a pattern by applying same concepts such as spacing, curvature, and slider angles, etc. Make similar things similar, and differentiate different things. Each pattern of a map works as an organism, and each patterns needs to create a bigger organism. It's not okay to make an exclusive pattern every time that does not consider the structure. The other collab mappers here are good at it. I know it's hard, but you need more practice.

I don't consider this map to be suitable in ranked section until I see significant improvement on Shurelia's parts.

Doyak wrote:

* 03:18:288 (1) - It's very good to finish the rectangle, but I don't think the spacing here works at all. It needs more emphasis than 03:17:518 (5,6,7) - , but what you did here is to slow down the flow suddenly, thus make it very underemphasized. I'd rather try https://doyak.s-ul.eu/ZMTQwNZd (8 under 7), or something else.……your are right but i can‘t change 03:17:518 - , it's not my part


* 03:33:672 - Again this needs to be emphasized but the flow is slowed down by the 1/1. Better to fill out 03:33:480 - somehow or just put it far away. …… fix

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1. 00:27:711 - i think you should follow vocal here.
   how about circle+1/1slider pattern instead 1/1 slider+circle https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10408742
   
2. 00:30:595 (3) - this slider should be placed accurately imo.
   https://puu.sh/zBDU4/b532f6e175.png
   how's it? using 1/12 tick and set volume to 5% at 00:31:172 - . i thought this (3) to be just a one slide to 00:31:364 - , but weird slider tick rings also we can't mute this (cuz of RC lol)
   
3. 00:45:403 (3,4) - fix blancket or somthing like this https://puu.sh/zBE0A/cedeef5513.png
   i think we should clarify whether they wanna be blanket or not.
   
4. 00:46:749 (5,6) - in this section, you're following both piano and vocal. considering the concept, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10408764 <- would work.
   
5. from 01:02:903 (1) - for piano and vocal, this pattern is the most suitable i think but what do you think?
   https://puu.sh/zBE82/e1d338e446.png
   
6. 01:41:364 (6,7) - you should emphasize more and more i feel!
   it means, just add nc on 01:41:364 (6) - . also plz check mod at "hitsound" below.
   
7. 03:36:172 (3) - can you take more distance from 03:35:980 (2) - ? like this https://puu.sh/zBEKL/72ca63216f.png
   
8. 03:44:826 (3) - add nc to emphasize 03:44:441 (1,2) - . also check "hitsound".
   
9. 03:52:903 (3) - wanna follow strings on 03:53:095 - . how's this? https://puu.sh/zBEQP/d25a9b321f.png
   
10. 03:57:326 (6) - stack
    
11. 04:03:864 (8,1) - stack
    
12. 04:07:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too intense for this map tbh, i can understand you can emphasize string sounds tho. changing 04:07:518 (1,2) - to 1/2 slider and it'd be better imo, also it'll become drum sound emphasis too.
    
13. 04:09:057 (9) - add nc to avoid long combos imo
    
14. 04:35:211 (1) - should be started from 04:35:018 - considering mainly piano. also vocal doesn't start from 04:35:211 - exactly.
    
15. 04:53:672 (1,2) - how about using same slider shape? looks more consistent i feel
    https://puu.sh/zBFj6/def01f2273.png
    
16. 04:58:864 (3) - add nc to emphasize 04:58:288 (1,2) - . also check "hitsound"
    
17. 05:24:057 (1) - i prefer removing this. why do you need to follow only this vocal? atmosphere which is cool-downed is more important imo.

1. from 01:15:211 - to 01:27:518 - . i feel weird to some drum-finish usage. you can use more and more drum-finish sound. also it's a bit surprising to ring that at 01:24:057 - at first.
   try to put drum-finish on these and you'd feel better i believe.
   01:17:903 - 01:18:288 - 01:20:211 - 01:20:788 - 01:24:441 -
   
2. 01:35:788 - remove drum-finish. not following the song therefore i felt something strange.
   
3. 04:15:018 - this drum-finish also feels weird for me. such a low-sound makes "beat", like human's heart. it means low-sound is mainly put on downbeat.
   in this reason, just a little thing tho, i recommend deleting finish here and putting drum-finish on 04:15:211 - instead.
   
4. 01:41:364 - 03:44:441 - 04:58:288 - these jump should have consistent hitsounding, also they should be strong emphasis. i suggest a way for example.
   
   1. sampleset:normal, additions:drum-finish at (1)
   2. sampleset:normal, additions:soft-clap at (2)