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Kageyama Hironobu- Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai(DBZ)

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minyeob
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2006년 2월 6일 월요일 at 오후 12:32:40

Artist: Kageyama Hironobu
Title: Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai
BPM: 186
Filesize: 3523kb
Play Time: 03:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (3.22 stars, 267 notes)
  2. Hard (4.87 stars, 533 notes)
  3. Normal (4.24 stars, 320 notes)
Download: Kageyama Hironobu - Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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PlayStation2- Dragon Ball Z3 OST! </Ranked>
Special thanks to Rolled&Matty (MP3 file name edit)
-----------------Update--------------
(10/12)
Normal difficulty decreased(Thanks for Windragon)
(10/13)
BeatSpacing Fixed(Thanks for Ash)
(10/16)
Error fixed(Timing etc.)
(11/1)
m980's mod
(11/8)
m980's 2nd mod
(11/26)
Fixed as possible as I can!
(12/1)
Spinner fixed.
(2009 1/ 27)
New part added.(Hard)
(2009 2/16)
Larto!
(2009 2/17)
Easy.
2009 2/24~2/25
Maxwell! m980! mtmcl!
It seems to be ranked soon
Big update!
Starroad/Ekaru's suggestions.
2/26
m980 you're my hero :)
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minyeob
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I'm tired to wating orz
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mattyu007
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Change the name of the mp3 to: Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai

Open up the .osu file in notepad and find the line that looks like this:
AudioFilename: 1113229530.mp3
and change it so that it says
AudioFilename: Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai.mp3
Repeat this for all 3 difficulties, then do a full resubmit
minyeob
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Thanks, Mattyu
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minyeob
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now my beatmap is readable!!

Mod Please :( :(
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Saturos
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Remove Dragon Ball OST from the title and reupload.
minyeob
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Saturos wrote:

Remove Dragon Ball OST from the title and reupload.
Reuploaded.
Anyone else?
Windragon
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These are all just suggestions as i found no mistakes :P

Normal:
The spacing is very inconsistent, because this is normal i "think" the spacing should be consistant
00:37:931 (6) - move slider half backwards
00:48:329 (6) - same as above
01:02:031 (1~17) - isn't the combo a bit long? :P (in my opinion in normal. beats should have smaller combos)
01:38:463 (1~14) - combo a bit long?
01:58:292 (1~14) - same thing again :P
03:13:654 (1~5) - some new players might not be able to do this, maybe you should keep it as a stack?
03:23:971 (1~8) - same as above
minyeob
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ash
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[Normal]
00:31:32 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing
00:46:87 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
00:51:23 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
00:56:87 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
01:44:59 (4,5) - spacing
01:58:29 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - spacing
02:16:83 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:33:59 (5,6,7,8) - spacing
02:58:50 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
03:12:04 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
03:13:65 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
03:30:01 (1) - move to blue tick (1/4 after); also spacing

[Hard]
00:02:70 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - spacing
00:31:40 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
00:42:36 (5,6) - spacing
00:46:87 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing
00:51:22 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
01:15:24 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - spacing
01:38:46 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
01:43:61 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing
01:48:77 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - spacing
01:58:28 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:09:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:10:46 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
02:19:48 (1,2,3) - spacing
02:20:13 (1,2,3) - spacing
02:20:77 (1,2,3) - spacing
02:21:42 (1,2,3) - spacing
02:22:38 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ARGH
02:58:49 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
03:01:72 (1,2) - spacing
03:08:81 (1,2,3) - spacing
03:12:03 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
03:14:29 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - spacing
03:22:35 (4,5,6,7,8) - spacing
03:25:25 (1,2,3) - spacing

the spacing in this map is very inconsistent
i accepted a lot of the jump sections but this is just too much
please learn how to use distance snap and fix most of your combos this way

minyeob
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Beatspacing Complete!
m980
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Hello

I think the offset is REALLY wrong. I suck at offsets though, but try 2690.

Normal
After the above Offset Change, go into 1/2 divisor and resnap.
00:15:91 (1) - These sliders aren't allowed. The starting and ending point shouldn't stack.
00:18:01 (2) - Move this 1/2 later.
00:51:23 (1,2) - I'd move these 2 up so that spacing from 2-3 and 3-4 are equal
02:03:49 (1,2,3) - I'd stack these onto the 4.

Hard
After the above Offset Change, go into 1/2 divisor and resnap.
00:51:23 (1,2,3,4) - I'd move this down abit.
02:03:01 (15,1,2,3,4) - I dunno. Make 1-3 a stream from 15 to 4.

Also. Spacing seems inconsistent. Perfect examples are..
01:57:20 (4,5) - Closer together then V
01:59:14 (5,6) - Further apart then ^
Yet the pair of notes are both 1/2 apart from eachother in terms on timing. You should go fix that.

Also. Nice map. Big improvement from your other map. Star'd.
minyeob
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Fixed.
1/2 resnap makes too much timing errors.
So
I resnapped(1/4)and fixed the timing errors.
ash
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ash

m980 wrote:

<crap>
Also. Nice map. Big improvement from your other map. Star'd.
uh the spacing inconsistencies are still there
m980
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Remod!

I don't really know about timing. Get someone to check that. Even though i gave you it, it's probably abit off..

Normal
00:05:51 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1/4 too early. Move later 1/4.
01:07:20 (17) - Large Combo?
01:11:07 (5,6,7,8) - Move this up abit. So that it is just below the middle of 1,2.
01:58:33 (1,2,3,4) - Move down abit.
02:00:10 (8,9,10) - Fix spacing. It isn't consistent.
02:31:07 (2) - Move this down abit.

Hard
01:07:20 (19) - Large combo?
02:58:17 (9) - Inconsistent spacing within Combo.
03:25:59 (2) - I'd move the end point abit up.
03:26:23 (4) - As well as move this up.

Also. Some beats aren't with anything.
02:09:14 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Is a nice example. It's just a stream. I don't think this is an unrankable issue though..


Spacing is fine within the combo. Which is fine IMO.
ash
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m980 wrote:

Spacing is fine within the combo. Which is fine IMO.
different combos can have completely different spacing?!? I DIDNT KNOW THAT !!

that is sooo cool it makes so much sense to me now

minyeob
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Fixed.
Now I have to hear another BAT's opinion......
ash
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lol you keep bumping it but i still see most of the errors i saw before meaning you didn't really fix much of it yet

why not try fixing it and then getting a mod's opinion of it?
minyeob
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Ash wrote:

lol you keep bumping it but i still see most of the errors i saw before meaning you didn't really fix much of it yet

why not try fixing it and then getting a mod's opinion of it?
Fixed as possible as I can.
James
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-8 to -10ms pls


normal:
whats with different spacing in this difficulty?
00:18:65 (1) - move 1/4 beat forward
00:33:57 (1) - start at 1/4 beat forward, white tick
00:38:73 (1) - start at 1/4 beat backward, red tick
00:43:89 (1) - start at 1/4 beat forward, white tick
03:03:25 (1) - start at 1/4 beat forward, white tick
03:08:73 (1) - start at 1/4 beat forward, white tick

hard:
check your spinners, i feel that something like what i posted above
minyeob
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*Fixed with 25% Playback Rate*
Ready to get a bubble

Sorry for James
At that time I was so sleepy.
So I couldn't fix quickly.....
James
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normal
03:03:24 (1) - 1/4 beat forward
03:08:72 (1) - same as above

hard:
03:03:24 (1) - 1/4 beat forward
minyeob
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Fixed and bumped.

I hate spinners
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minyeob
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MaxwellDemon
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Normal

02:55:58 (1,1,1) - The jump and the sudden reduction of the jump doesn't seem to make much sense here. :( My suggestion is to pull the blue combo a little further from here, so it doesn't seem like if the spacing is all funky all the suddenly. :P

Hard
I think this difficulty has too many claps for its own good, but that's obviously your decision. :P

I LOVED how you mapped the final instrumental part before the last bit in Hard by the way. Here, have a Maxwell-star~
minyeob
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Wow, is there no problem on easy? Awesome!

I removed jumps that you've mentioned.
I didn't remove any claps lol

Thanks for modding~

EDIT:
I used kudosu stars because it's so old.
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m980
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Wow this has alot of Priority Points..

Easy
00:02:67 (1,2) - Small Spacing Inconsistency.
00:13:00 (1,2) - ^
02:05:26 (5) - Hidden sliders aren't good.
In my honest opinion, I think the spacing changes in this difficulty is abit extreme. Remember, this is meant for beginners.

Normal
There isn't anything OVERLY wrong with this difficulty, however...
01:02:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Phrases like these are very boring and don't really go with the song at all.
Try remapping a few of the phrases, since some of them are boring/don't-make-sense.
Also spacing changes are abit extreme here as well.

Hard
Again nothing wrong, however this difficulty also suffers the same problem as Normal.
Phrases that don't go with the music. (Also they're abit boring)
If you need me to go more in-depth, the PM me.
Instrumental part is awesome.

Overall, this map is pretty good. Just try to back away from the extreme spacing changes.

Edit : After some talk with other people on irc, we've all agreed that the map is pretty long, the fact that the map is also boring makes it feel even longer. Try to make the map more fun. Diversify the patterns up abit. (Don't touch the instrumental part though ;). )
mtmcl
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As m980 said, the instrumental part in [Hard] is the type of thing we should be seeing throughout the map. Don't be afraid to break convention and throw away your sense of guidelines. This map is so clean cut I had trouble playing through the whole thing. You have strictly spaced linear streams and sliders throughout the entire thing and I want to see more 00:43:970 and much more 02:34:938. This is the sort of stuff that makes a player consent to sitting through three minutes of a DBZ song.

To be fair, this IS a coherent map that demonstrates a mappers knowledge of the standards. This stands above many less impressive attempts at mapping and you shouldn't feel bad about my above statements. I just think this can and should be much more than it is.

Also, I definitely experienced some slider drag throughout my play, which is a good indicator of timing problems. I'm not very good with finding precise timing, so just let this stand as my own suspicion.
minyeob
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Remapped < Fixed.
I used so much time to fix this lol
EDIT 1 ->1more kudosu star.
EDIT 2-> No more minyeob star
------Ingore this---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, I used so many stars.
But think about this.
I submitted on Aug,2008.
This beatmap has lived for 6 months in "Pending Beatmaps"
Also, This is not a revived-beatmap.
And I have no ranked beatmaps!
BATs ignored my mod requests except who modded my beatmap.(I think I requested about 20+ times)

If you were I, could you use 0 or few kudosu stars in this situation?
No, All of human have a egoism.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next time, I won't use my kudosu stars like this.
Thanks.
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Edit:(Starroad)
[EASY]
00:02:68 (1,2), 00:13:00 (1,2)-> Fixed. I moved down a bit.
00:48:16 (5,6,7)-> Changed the form
[Normal]
00:03:97 (4),00:14:29 (4)-> Fixed.
00:06:22 (3,4) - Fixed.
02:05:26 (5) - Nice shape-> Fixed.
[HARD]
01:22:51 (16)-> Removed(On normal)
Ninja spinner: Removed
etc etc

Thanks ^^
lol Too busy

-Ekaru I changed like this.

Also, I added extra beats.(10),(11)
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minyeob wrote:

Edit:(Starroad)
Lol, Starroad. <3

I don't know, even if my name is Starrod, I still like the sound of Starroad. xD

No need to edit it back, I love it. :P

Don't have anything else to say here except...hope this gets ranked soon. >.<;
m980
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Easy
It's been remapped, the spacing isn't as crazy as it was before.
However.. 01:02:03 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Sections like these have beats that don't go with the music. Yeah that's cool and all, but it all seems out of place.
Other then that it's pretty cool..

Normal
01:02:03 (1,2,3,4,5) - Suffers the same problems as Easy does.
01:04:29 (6,7) - This is pretty cool though.
02:09:13 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Suffers the same problems as Easy does.

Hard
00:56:22 (8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - WHISTLE OVERLOAD
01:02:03 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Same problem as easy
You could try using these kinds of patterns. They go with the music and aren't as boring
[attachment=0:67a2a]screenshot031.png[/attachment:67a2a]
01:48:16 (2) - Spacing "MIGHT" confuse people.
03:05:90 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Problem Easy

I think you should reposition some of your patterns. Right now it's really linear and uninteresting. Maybe you could put a curve in the phrase or curve sliders that aren't curved. A few of the patterns are pretty boring.

I hoped this helped.
Jeffro
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This map is fuxpro!!! Make it ranked!! come on :D
minyeob
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Larto
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In theory, I could go nazi and ask for some small design twists, but this map has had been tortured for so long, it's time to end this.
Also, there are some really cool patterns in each difficulty, so that'll work out anyways.



If you want to pop the bubble be ready for a big Kamehameha.
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Ekaru
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Congratulations on *finally* getting your first ranked map! :D

Spudman
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Whoa, I'm so used to just hearing the instrumental, not used to vocals. xD
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