00:50 GreenHue: herro
00:50 Su1fu7: heyo
00:50 Su1fu7: so mod
00:50 Su1fu7: lets start
00:50 Su1fu7: into is pretty good
00:50 Su1fu7: 00:27:699 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:50 GreenHue: yay
00:51 Su1fu7: i dont understandd why you dont wanna change flow direction
00:51 Su1fu7: http://puu.sh/tD4rT/464cf20393.jpg
00:51 Su1fu7: something like
00:51 Su1fu7: this
00:52 GreenHue: hmm
00:52 GreenHue: i dont like how i cant chat while i'm in the editor
00:52 Su1fu7: would better emphasize difference betwen 00:28:388 (5,6) -
00:52 Su1fu7: f9
00:52 Su1fu7: lol
00:52 Su1fu7: actually f8
00:53 GreenHue: oops
00:53 GreenHue: ya
00:53 GreenHue: yay
00:54 Su1fu7: so yeah that the first thing
00:54 GreenHue: okay I do like that
00:54 Su1fu7: 00:31:147 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
00:54 Su1fu7: that stream
00:54 Su1fu7: its actually pretty difficult to sightread
00:54 Su1fu7: bc weird overlap
00:54 Su1fu7: at least NC 00:31:492 (6) -
00:55 Su1fu7: also might as well improve that shape
00:56 GreenHue: ` i changed the stream to no be retarded
00:57 Su1fu7: also 00:31:837 (10) - spacine this one like http://puu.sh/tD4OY/5a6184e801.jpg here would be great
00:57 Su1fu7: *spacing
00:58 Su1fu7: 00:33:216 - this beat should be clickable
00:59 GreenHue: ^fixedf
00:59 Su1fu7: 00:34:078 (4,5) - try to ctrl+ g this one
00:59 Su1fu7: and move 00:34:078 (4) - a little bit down
00:59 Su1fu7: what do you think?
01:00 GreenHue: what does ctrl-g do
01:00 GreenHue: :>
01:00 Su1fu7: change order of notes on timeline
01:00 GreenHue: ohh okay
01:01 Su1fu7: 00:34:595 - same this with strong beat once again
01:02 Su1fu7: and here 00:35:975 -
01:02 Su1fu7: honestly i dont not why so many of your sliders ends on downbeats
01:02 GreenHue: help im hopless and am also confused with what i should do with those
01:04 GreenHue: i dont see why thats super bad
01:04 GreenHue: does it just mess with the flow
01:04 Su1fu7: try something like http://puu.sh/tD5jw/93e1b0d1c3.jpg instead with 00:34:078 (4,5,6) -
01:05 Su1fu7: its not about flow
01:05 Su1fu7: its about emphasizing right things
01:06 Su1fu7: like 00:34:595 - is stronger than 00:34:423 - and 00:34:250 - 00:34:078 -
01:07 Su1fu7: and this happens a lot in your map
01:08 Su1fu7: so yeh lets go to next issue
01:09 Su1fu7: 00:37:699 (2,3,4) -
01:09 GreenHue: okay ill figure that out
01:09 Su1fu7: why dont you mapped these sound like you did 00:34:768 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - here?
01:09 Su1fu7: *sounds
01:10 GreenHue: i thought it would add variety
01:11 Su1fu7: honestly its rather awkaward to play than add variety
01:11 GreenHue: yeah that does make sence
01:11 Su1fu7: also another general advice: NC SV changes
01:11 Su1fu7: like 00:38:216 (5) -
01:11 Su1fu7: it would make map way easier to read
01:13 Su1fu7: 00:55:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
01:13 Su1fu7: smh
01:13 GreenHue: :(
01:13 Su1fu7: generaly NCing every downbeat would work for rhis song
01:14 Su1fu7: (like almost for every other song)
01:14 GreenHue: NC?
01:15 Su1fu7: new combo
01:15 GreenHue: yeah
01:15 Su1fu7: also i forgot about 00:33:819 (2) -
01:15 GreenHue: also sliders make it hard to add hitsounds
01:15 Su1fu7: i dont get what it mapped to
01:16 GreenHue: me neither
01:16 Su1fu7: lol
01:17 GreenHue: so basically, i should have a circle on every downbeat
01:17 Su1fu7: yeah
01:17 GreenHue: fuk
01:17 Su1fu7: and NC on every downbeat
01:17 GreenHue: brb remapping my entire song
01:18 GreenHue: lol
01:18 Su1fu7: shiet
01:18 GreenHue: ty btw this has really helped
01:18 Su1fu7: its not like you need to comlitely remap lol
01:18 Su1fu7: just change structure a bit here and there
01:18 GreenHue: yeah im just being a fuck head
01:18 Su1fu7: and youre fine
01:18 GreenHue: yay
01:19 GreenHue: its okay celery told me the first map that i made that i was complete shit and i should never map ever again
01:19 Su1fu7: lol
01:19 Su1fu7: did he really did that?
01:19 GreenHue: no lol
01:19 Su1fu7: also 01:20:544 (2,3,4) -
01:19 GreenHue: he just said i shouldnt go for ranked
01:19 Su1fu7: i dont get these "streams"
01:20 Su1fu7: what they're mapped too
01:20 GreenHue: they are mapped to the music
01:20 GreenHue: Kappa
01:20 GreenHue: okay fine you caught me
01:21 GreenHue: I was just trying to spice up that bridge a little bit
01:21 Su1fu7: hmm
01:21 GreenHue: ya idk how i would map that otherwise
01:22 GreenHue: 01:38:044 looks good good to me
01:23 GreenHue: like everything from there on
01:24 Su1fu7: might try slightly reduce spacing between those from 01:38:733 (4) -
01:24 Su1fu7: like
01:24 Su1fu7: music gets a bit quiet
01:24 Su1fu7: mlike
01:24 Su1fu7: fading away
01:24 GreenHue: who doesnt like a good square jump LUUL
01:25 Su1fu7: do squares but less spaced and then 01:39:423 (1) - spca this slider like
01:25 Su1fu7: you spaced 01:38:216 (1,2) -
01:25 Su1fu7: what do you think?
01:26 GreenHue: wayt
01:26 GreenHue: wat
01:26 GreenHue: im confused
01:28 GreenHue: oh i made the square jumps super sexy
01:29 Su1fu7: something like http://puu.sh/tD77c/3c63e31e82.jpg
01:30 Su1fu7: (but without 01:38:561 (3,5,6) - this overlap)
01:30 Su1fu7: so yeah
01:31 Su1fu7: just decrease spacing in second square
01:31 Su1fu7: and slightly rotate it
01:31 GreenHue: i think i did a good job on it
01:32 Su1fu7: same thing 01:51:147 - with stong beats once again
01:32 Su1fu7: but i guess you get the idea
01:32 Su1fu7: 01:54:940 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) -
01:33 GreenHue: I REALLY get what you are talking about on those beats <3
01:33 Su1fu7: i dont get why 01:55:975 (1) - goes same direction as 01:54:940 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -
01:34 GreenHue: i think its cool
01:34 GreenHue: like its just a neat little thing i want to keep
01:34 Su1fu7: i think sometimes changing flow direction on strong beat would make map more intresting
01:35 GreenHue: that would be neat
01:35 Su1fu7: :/
01:35 GreenHue: but like
01:35 GreenHue: you know those really tiny slow sliders
01:35 GreenHue: would i be able to keep them
01:36 Su1fu7: 01:09:078 (10) - these?
01:36 GreenHue: because they're cute and they emphasize the wubb
01:36 GreenHue: ya
01:36 Su1fu7: sure'
01:36 Su1fu7: these make map more intresting to play
01:37 Su1fu7: why not?
01:37 GreenHue: yay
01:37 GreenHue: but some of them are on downbeats
01:37 Su1fu7: there very few of these
01:38 GreenHue: like 00:47:457
01:38 Su1fu7: you can keep these
01:38 Su1fu7: they're fine
01:38 GreenHue: thanks mom
01:39 GreenHue: one more big questionable part
01:39 GreenHue: i like it, modders might not
01:39 Su1fu7: mm
01:39 GreenHue: 01:00:284
01:40 Su1fu7: lol
01:40 GreenHue: 01:00:285
01:40 Su1fu7: these all good
01:40 Su1fu7: w8
01:40 GreenHue: whatever that big thing
01:40 *Su1fu7 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1174818 IAHN - Melody of Heaven (Original Mix) [Extreme]]
01:40 Su1fu7: look at these things
01:40 Su1fu7: i dont get a single line from modders about all these sliders
01:40 Su1fu7: so you should be fine
01:41 Su1fu7: as long as they're make sense you're good
01:41 GreenHue: those sliders are so fucking cute
01:41 Su1fu7: owo
01:42 Su1fu7: i guess that about it for structure and other general stuff with your map
01:42 Su1fu7: now do /savelog and apply
01:42 GreenHue: that map
01:42 GreenHue: i want to eat it
01:42 GreenHue: mm
01:42 GreenHue: i havent changed everything but it will give you an idea of what i'm doing
01:42 Su1fu7: mught as well call me back when you're done with structure so we talk a liitle about a e s t h e t i c
01:43 Su1fu7: if you want to
01:43 Su1fu7: since its like
01:44 GreenHue: lol
01:44 GreenHue: dont call my baby ugly
01:44 Su1fu7: if you gonna change structure most of these thing about aesthetic and such woul be pointless
01:44 Su1fu7: its not ugly
01:44 Su1fu7: avtually
01:44 Su1fu7: w8
01:44 Su1fu7: 00:33:561 (1) -
01:44 Su1fu7: these slightly curved sliders is like
01:45 Su1fu7: a little bit outdated
01:45 Su1fu7: or
01:45 Su1fu7: yeah i guess outdated is right word
01:45 Su1fu7: also dont do like 00:46:837 (1,2) - this
01:45 GreenHue: so go mike pence on them and make them straight?
01:46 Su1fu7: make dank 5degree straight sliders
01:46 Su1fu7: and youre good
01:46 Su1fu7: but thats uop to you
01:46 Su1fu7: 00:46:837 (1,2) -
01:46 Su1fu7: dont make same sliders for two differet sounds
01:47 Su1fu7: also 01:04:768 (6) - sliders like this can be imroved
01:47 Su1fu7: but thats just my opinion
01:47 Su1fu7: so w/e
01:47 Su1fu7: its like least important thing
01:48 Su1fu7: also this map is not finished?
01:48 Su1fu7: or is it?
01:48 GreenHue: nope
01:48 GreenHue: adding a normal and hard
01:49 Su1fu7: i mean
01:49 GreenHue: and if someone wants to make an extra they can go ahead
01:49 Su1fu7: 02:01:492 - from there
01:49 GreenHue: I think so yea
01:49 Su1fu7: are you gonna map rest?
01:49 GreenHue: long maps are bad
01:49 GreenHue: nope
01:49 Su1fu7: if no migh cut mp3
01:49 Su1fu7: *might
01:50 GreenHue: just to make it DL easier?
01:50 Su1fu7: yeah
01:50 Su1fu7: also
01:50 Su1fu7: stuff like when just 50% of mp3 is mapped is unrankable
01:50 Su1fu7: so yeah
01:50 Su1fu7: just cut it
01:51 GreenHue: oh thats a good point lol
01:51 GreenHue: okay ill cut it
01:51 Su1fu7: :ok_hand:
01:51 Su1fu7: also stuff like countdown and widescrean support
01:51 Su1fu7: just remove it
01:52 Su1fu7: and get combo colours
01:52 GreenHue: okay thanks! yeah i will definitely do that
01:52 Su1fu7: np
01:52 Su1fu7: gl with mapset