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C.H.S - Interlude - teatime [Taiko]

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Ascendance
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:11:07 AM

Artist: C.H.S
Title: Interlude - teatime
Source: 東方紅魔郷 ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
Tags: Honey I Scream 上海紅茶館 Chinese Tea Shanghai Teahouse Hong Meiling hikikochan energeh リズナ Rizna t+pazolite 東方project
BPM: 100
Filesize: 3270kb
Play Time: 00:58
Difficulties Available:
  1. Energeh's Futsuu (2.03 stars, 88 notes)
  2. hikki's Kantan (1.04 stars, 56 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.17 stars, 114 notes)
Download: C.H.S - Interlude - teatime
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#77 Mapset / Ranked #13
C.H.S - Interlude - teatime

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Pending on January 11, 2017
Bubbled on January 11, 2017 by OzzyOzrock
Qualified on January 12, 2017 by Chromoxx
Disqualified on January 15, 2017 by IamKwaN
Qualified on January 15, 2017 by IamKwaN
Disqualified on January 22, 2017 by OnosakiHito
Qualified on January 23, 2017 by OnosakiHito


Kantan : By hikikochan
Futsuu : By Energeh
Muzukashii : By Ascendance

OzzyOzrock
A lot was done through Discord voice chat, but the log exists.

SPOILER
21:26 OzzyOzrock: 00:08:865 (10) - k        00:13:665 (15) - delete cuz its too similar to muzu        00:18:915 (25) - delete to make more sparce
21:26 OzzyOzrock: 00:17:715 (22,23) - both to k
21:51 OzzyOzrock: 00:24:015 (4) - k 00:27:315 (8) - d 00:33:315 (15) - k 00:34:215 (17) - d 00:38:415 (24) - d
21:51 OzzyOzrock: spice
21:51 Ascendance: all fix
21:52 OzzyOzrock: you're learning fast
21:52 Ascendance: `thank yiou!
21:52 Ascendance: i hope to honor my god onosakihoto
21:57 Ascendance: http://puu.sh/tilTl/40efa2a286.osz
21:59 OzzyOzrock: ok now muzu
22:15 OzzyOzrock: 00:24:015 (6) - k 00:27:315 (11,12,13) - d d k 00:33:315 (20) - k 00:37:665 (33,37) - these k
22:15 Ascendance: -k d k
22:23 OzzyOzrock: 00:42:915 (5,6) - k k 00:46:515 (11,12,13) - now it can be d d k here..... 00:52:065 (19) - k 00:54:465 (26) - d 00:57:315 (34,35,36,37,38) - k k d k k
22:48 OzzyOzrock: futsuu 00:28:065 (10) - k
22:49 OzzyOzrock: 00:46:515 (8,9,10,11,12) - why this the same as 00:08:115 (8,9,10,11,12) -
22:49 OzzyOzrock: >:(
22:51 OzzyOzrock: 00:42:015 (2,3,4,5,6) - k dd kk
22:51 OzzyOzrock: 00:47:265 (10) - k
22:52 OzzyOzrock: 00:51:615 (15) - k and 00:57:615 (25,26,27) - kdkk!
22:52 OzzyOzrock: that should be it!

Coached to perfection.
Bubbled!
Bubble time: 11:19
Storyboarder
sb
Topic Starter
Ascendance

Storyboarder wrote:

00:29:799 (1,2,3) - hyper dash
00:33:109 (1,2) - ^
00:36:419 (1,2,3) - ^
Thank you, but I dont think a hyperdash fits there.
Xinnoh
Artist needs to be changed from:
t+pazolite & RIZNA
to:
t+pazolite feat. Rizna

Remove 'sb' and 'i' from the tags because you meme too much

Disable widescreen support on the GDs

Kantan and Futsuu a little
00:57:615 (55,56,57,58) - Is it really appropriate to have a 4 note burst which is the hardest point of the diff at the quietest part of the entire map
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Thanks but no thanks, the tags are fine and I'll fix other things before Chromoxx qualifies
Xinnoh

why even bother with rules these days
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Cry about it, go find some other thread to make drama on, this isn't where that kind of discussion goes. As for the 4 notes at the end, I'd hardly consider them a burst and they act as a finale to the song itself. The fact that it's quiet shouldn't matter at all. If anything, I'll reduce it to 5% volume if you're so unhappy about it.

Also, the tags are fine thanks.
OzzyOzrock
Sorry friendolis, I don't function properly this late at night.

After some double-checking...

Re-Bubbled!
TIME: 8:16 UTC

Sinnoh wrote:


why even bother with rules these days
Having coached the shit out of this, along with the disgustingly easy-to-map nature of the song itself, I can safely say that it's ready. The metadata was an oversight thanks to my brain shriveling into a raisin over the course of the day.
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Thanks again
Raiden
Widescreen support is irrelevant if there is no storyboard, so not against the rules whatsoever.
Chromoxx
hi, here to give this a quick check before touch this.

[Kantan]
00:57:615 (55,56,57,58) - no. using 1/2 is pretty edgy anyway, then coming in with a quad when you can barely hear anything is taking it too far.
00:57:915 (56,57) - delete these 2 notes, so that we can make this spread properly.

[Futsuu]
who is Energeh?
00:57:615 (25,26,27,28) - you're mapping these here, when there's clearly more audible stuff like 00:19:556 - that you aren't mapping.
I'd suggest deleting 00:57:915 (26) - so that we can spread this up to the muzukashii which has all 4 notes and mapping notes like 00:15:315 - 00:19:515 - 00:34:515 - 00:38:715 - to get a bit of a better distance from the kantan

[Muzukashii]
why is the diff by Ascendance the one where i have nothing to say? lmao.

If you don't want to accept the stuff i pointed out here i'd like to gather some more opinions before qualifying, since the spread is a bit questionable here with the futsuu being a bit too similar to kantan and the 4 notes at the end aren't really acceptable in the lower 2 diffs for me.
MBomb
the fact you have a marisa bg for a meiling song is actually disgusting change it you numbskull
if you're not gonna do that then firstly fuck you and secondly add marisa to tags

I have to agree with both Chromoxx and Sinnoh though, those notes at the end of the kantan and futsuu aren't just slightly hard for these difficulties, but also very nonsensical considering the fact that you're putting more emphasis because the song is getting quieter, which makes no sense from a rhythmic point of view.

Oh also in my opinion, whilst I understand the reasoning for high HP, current HP feels a little too high in my opinion, would recommend reducing each diff by 1 (Except maybe muzu).

There's also a few notes triggering me so here.

[Kantan]

00:26:415 (25) - Why is this literally the only note with this type of chime which is a k, it seems very strange rhythm wise. (As in the chimes which happen once every 2 downbeats).
00:36:015 (34,35) - dk just feels very odd here considering the pitch goes up on 34 and then down on 35 and it's kinda just very confusing because there's no sounds to indicate this being dk at all, kd sounds a lot better.

There's also quite a few consistency issues, but I assume this is fine because the repetitive nature of the song would make it boring, as this would lead to basically the same thing 3 times in a row. (Goes for all diffs)

[Futsuu]

00:03:315 - The fact there's no note here sounds weird to me, would be best to add one.
00:16:065 - Considering strength of 3/4 here, same here.
00:22:515 - Same as the first point, considering the fact how every other "line" has this 1/2 mapped, not mapping it here sounds odd.
00:35:265 - And again, same as second point.
And the same with the last section in the same way xd
00:42:915 (3) - Seems weird to leave this as d considering pitches here, k would sound better.
00:51:615 (15) - d would be nice for pitch lowering here (kinda nazi but yeah it just seems weird to have kk here for a pitch that varies so much, to my ear).

[Muzukashii]

00:33:315 (20) - d would sound nice on this considering sound really didn't change much if at all from previous note, and would nicely show how high the pitch change to next note is.

Muzu is actually pretty nice but that one note triggers me.

Alright yeah that's it, these changes aren't really major at all so you won't need a rebubble I'm pretty sure.
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Good morning desu

Chromoxx wrote:

hi, here to give this a quick check before touch this.

[Futsuu]
who is Energeh? He's a restricted player but he's my friend IRL. We were sitting next to each other when we mapped the set
00:57:615 (25,26,27,28) - you're mapping these here, when there's clearly more audible stuff like 00:19:556 - that you aren't mapping. Fixed
I'd suggest deleting 00:57:915 (26) - so that we can spread this up to the muzukashii which has all 4 notes and mapping notes like 00:15:315 - 00:19:515 - 00:34:515 - 00:38:715 - to get a bit of a better distance from the kantan Fixed this as well

[Muzukashii]
why is the diff by Ascendance the one where i have nothing to say? lmao. B)

If you don't want to accept the stuff i pointed out here i'd like to gather some more opinions before qualifying, since the spread is a bit questionable here with the futsuu being a bit too similar to kantan and the 4 notes at the end aren't really acceptable in the lower 2 diffs for me.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

the fact you have a marisa bg for a meiling song is actually disgusting change it you numbskull SAVE ME
if you're not gonna do that then firstly fuck you and secondly add marisa to tags ok i did until i find a better bg or something

I have to agree with both Chromoxx and Sinnoh though, those notes at the end of the kantan and futsuu aren't just slightly hard for these difficulties, but also very nonsensical considering the fact that you're putting more emphasis because the song is getting quieter, which makes no sense from a rhythmic point of view.

Oh also in my opinion, whilst I understand the reasoning for high HP, current HP feels a little too high in my opinion, would recommend reducing each diff by 1 (Except maybe muzu). Originally, it was 10/9/8, but we reduced it by 1 before the bubble. The main reasoning behind it is the song is so damn slow. I think lowering it any more would make it a bit too easy, hopefully this is an acceptable answer!

There's also a few notes triggering me so here.

[Futsuu]

00:03:315 - The fact there's no note here sounds weird to me, would be best to add one. ye
00:16:065 - Considering strength of 3/4 here, same here. ye
00:22:515 - Same as the first point, considering the fact how every other "line" has this 1/2 mapped, not mapping it here sounds odd. ye
00:35:265 - And again, same as second point. ye
And the same with the last section in the same way xd
00:42:915 (3) - Seems weird to leave this as d considering pitches here, k would sound better. I've done it in the other two, I've changed it only for this one since it isn't a huuuge difference
00:51:615 (15) - d would be nice for pitch lowering here (kinda nazi but yeah it just seems weird to have kk here for a pitch that varies so much, to my ear). done

[Muzukashii]

00:33:315 (20) - d would sound nice on this considering sound really didn't change much if at all from previous note, and would nicely show how high the pitch change to next note is. you got it

Muzu is actually pretty nice but that one note triggers me.

Alright yeah that's it, these changes aren't really major at all so you won't need a rebubble I'm pretty sure.
Thank you both for your time!
hikiko-
thank you for the mods!
changes

Chromoxx wrote:

[Kantan]
00:57:615 (55,56,57,58) - no. using 1/2 is pretty edgy anyway, then coming in with a quad when you can barely hear anything is taking it too far.
00:57:915 (56,57) - delete these 2 notes, so that we can make this spread properly. fixed

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

[Kantan]

00:26:415 (25) - Why is this literally the only note with this type of chime which is a k, it seems very strange rhythm wise. (As in the chimes which happen once every 2 downbeats). fixed
00:36:015 (34,35) - dk just feels very odd here considering the pitch goes up on 34 and then down on 35 and it's kinda just very confusing because there's no sounds to indicate this being dk at all, kd sounds a lot better. done, that fixes inconsistency issues with 00:16:815 (15,16) - and 00:55:215 (53,54) - so thanks!

There's also quite a few consistency issues, but I assume this is fine because the repetitive nature of the song would make it boring, as this would lead to basically the same thing 3 times in a row. (Goes for all diffs) i made one minor change not mentioned in the mods but i can justify all the variations in the diff if necessary
diff
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 2265
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 0.5

[Metadata]
Title:Interlude - teatime
TitleUnicode:Interlude - teatime
Artist:t+pazolite feat. Rizna
ArtistUnicode:t+pazolite feat. リズナ
Creator:Ascendance
Version:hikki's Kantan
Source:東方Project
Tags:Honey I Scream 東方紅魔郷 the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil 上海紅茶館 Chinese Tea Shanghai Teahouse Hong Meiling hikikochan energeh
BeatmapID:1178642
BeatmapSetID:556969

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CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
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Chromoxx
HP 9/8/7 is perfect here due to the length/not very dense nature of the song and how HP in taiko works.
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Everything's updated!
Chromoxx
Futsuu

00:08:115 (9) - delete this note or something here, the part is identical to muzu otherwise
00:27:315 (9) - ^
00:46:515 (9) - ^
Topic Starter
Ascendance

Chromoxx wrote:

Futsuu

00:08:115 (9) - delete this note or something here, the part is identical to muzu otherwise
00:27:315 (9) - ^
00:46:515 (9) - ^
All green
Chromoxx
set seems fine, talked again with ozzy about the dkd triplets in the muzu, should be easy enough to hit at this bpm and they fit the music so i'm fine with it.

Qualified!
Monstrata
Seriously? A t-pazolite song without an Extra? What is this, 2017? You could have mapped the telephone rings and at least produced something somewhat challenging for players.

Congrats on mastering a new mode.
Topic Starter
Ascendance

Monstrata wrote:

Seriously? A t-pazolite song without an Extra? What is this, 2017? You could have mapped the telephone rings and at least produced something somewhat challenging for players.

Congrats on mastering a new mode.
You're absolutely right! My apologies! I'll whip up something in my spare time for my more dedicated taiko players.

Standard here I come!
Chromoxx

Ascendance wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

Seriously? A t-pazolite song without an Extra? What is this, 2017? You could have mapped the telephone rings and at least produced something somewhat challenging for players.

Congrats on mastering a new mode.
You're absolutely right! My apologies! I'll whip up something in my spare time for my more dedicated taiko players.

Standard here I come!
Should have asked Taki and Mitsuha to map a nice Tragic Love Oni
Haruto
Ascendance mapping taiko :0
Congratulations! ranking a standard set when :^)
Topic Starter
Ascendance

Haruto wrote:

Ascendance mapping taiko :0
Congratulations! ranking a standard set when :^)
Need you and monstrata to teach me please ;A;
IamKwaN
Can you provide me metadata reference other than these stating the exact artist as your map?

http://www.c-h-s.me/honey_i_scream/#tracklist
http://media.vgm.io/albums/97/20379/203 ... 121676.jpg
Topic Starter
Ascendance

IamKwaN wrote:

Can you provide me metadata reference other than these stating the exact artist as your map?

http://www.c-h-s.me/honey_i_scream/#tracklist
http://media.vgm.io/albums/97/20379/203 ... 121676.jpg
Afternoon KwaN, I got my sources of Metadata from the following:

Gamu wrote:

[Metadata]
  1. Artist: t+pazolite feat. リズナ
  2. Romanised Artist: t+pazolite feat. Rizna

    ・About "リズナ", the song is included in this album: http://www.c-h-s.me/chs-0008/
    Vocal name is written in Japanese, so "リズナ" is better.


    ・About "Rizna" (romanization), Please look at this album: http://www.c-h-s.me/chs-0017/
    It says vocal name is "Rizna", so "Rizna" is correct romanization.


    ・About "feat.", Please look at this album: http://www.c-h-s.me/chs-0019/
    t+pazolite is using "feat.". Vocal is different, but "feat." is better than "ft.". Also "ft." is not used.





    From the above, "t+pazolite feat. リズナ" is the most proper artist name.
Hopefully this covers any confusion!
IamKwaN
What song is he referring to?
Topic Starter
Ascendance

IamKwaN wrote:

What song is he referring to?
This one
IamKwaN
Why did Gamu use another song as an example to apply on this song? This makes little sense. You could not use such alias unless they specify "t+pazolite feat. Rizna" for this song, same for all the Vocaloid songs. Please fix it as follows:

Artist: C.H.S
or
Artist: リズナ / Rizna

Don't forget to move t+pazolite to the Tags.
Topic Starter
Ascendance

IamKwaN wrote:

Why did Gamu use another song as an example to apply on this song? This makes little sense. You could not use such alias unless they specify "t+pazolite feat. Rizna" for this song, same for all the Vocaloid songs. Please fix it as follows:

Artist: C.H.S
or
Artist: リズナ / Rizna

Don't forget to move t+pazolite to the Tags.
I'm not sure I understand.. I took the metadata directly from the post of this same exact song. The screenshots surely show t+pazolite in them, so I'm not 100% certain as to why it should be removed. Hopefully you can explain it a bit better to me :(
IamKwaN
Does the circle ever state t+pazolite feat. Rizna - Interlude - teatime somewhere? Obviously no, so you should stick with the information they provide, i.e. either the circle name or vocalist.
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Alright. I've done the following:

  1. Artist Changed to C.H.S (It reminds me of things like Lite Show Magic, like combination of two artists, so I decided to use it)
  2. Source has been changed to 東方紅魔郷 ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
  3. リズナ Rizna t+pazolite 東方project have been added to tags.
If there's anything I missed, please let me know!
IamKwaN
back
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Thanks!
Akasha-
Isn't C.H.S is the label circle and t+pazolite is the main artist?
This song came from the album "Honey I Come" in Comiket 78 (2010)
C.H.S was a circle name, which host this album, with the label caterogy CHS-0008
so on, t+pazolite was the main artist of this album, he owned it

Therefore, t+pazolite feat. Rizna is honestly fine
t+pazolite is the main artist of this album, and t+pazolite arranged this song, Rizna is the singer with the vocal being used in this song, C.H.S was the circle name, it's not an artist name

You can't just said the label name = artist name, is it make any senses when all songs from C.H.S should have the artist is C.H.S too?

Anyway, source was correct to me but the artist wasn't.
Topic Starter
Ascendance
Kill me
Spy
C.H.S is the label of t+pazolite. It is not even an alias, your metadata is just something like "KONAMI - Brain Power".
Just a simple question here, who is C.H.S? Can you just explain?
Besides, this is t+pazolite's album. How come even if the artist is wrong but it should be corrected to リズナ(singer) instead of composer? It makes 0 sense here.
The artist means who did the work(the song) and own it. "feat." is the person who just helped the owner to finish it, but they won't be the owner.

Please make sure you know what is "alias" and "label", and everything about "artist". I mean, those people who give wrong info and knowledge should do it.
IamKwaN
C.H.S is the circle name, like IOSYS and Halozy, same thing.

And we use composer when the song is an instrumental song only.

Thing is, you cannot choose your own expression of artist when they are not specified and stated somewhere officially. Therefore, t+pazolite feat. Rizna is never correct.

P.S KONAMI is a gaming company who holds licences of songs by the way, I believe its nature is at least slightly different from a doujin circle.
Akasha-
That was make no senses either. The website you gave doesn't gave any certain artist metadata as it's listed. Therefore, t+pazolite feat. Rizna could be correct, and even could be wrong. Eventually, you can't said a circle name is an artist just because it host the album, meanwhile t+pazloite is the main artist of this album. C.H.S isn't an artist, it's not a real person, the circle name itself doesn't make this song, but t+pazolite, you can keep the artist t+pazolite because he made this remix.

I will give you an example: http://decoratorz.pichnopop.net
There is a song name in this album: P*Light feat. mow*2 - DECORATORZ
it's certainly because it does give information about the song name. What if this sog doesn't give you the information you need and you will just say it's: pichnopop - DECORATORZ (?)
Edit: this case was the same, pichnopop was a circle name, the website doesn't said "P*Light" in the album tracks information either. So is it still make senses when the circle name is the artist and composer are nothing compared to?

Back to this case, since there is no proper infomation to this song, but you still can't use the albums circle name as an artist name.
I have 3 solutions:
1. t+pazolite - Interlude - teatime
2. t+pazolite feat. Rizna - Interlude - teatime
3. I'm gonna ask t+pazolite because he is the album owner, I don't know If he gonna reply to it but just hope

KONAMI was a record company either, as you notice KONAMI release their game soundtrack albums
Kyouren
I think Gamu is really correct : o
Nwolf
on a side note: Why is the bg wrong character
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Ascendance

Nwolf wrote:

on a side note: Why is the bg wrong character
My twowho game is not strong so I just picked the first cute girl I found
Wormi

Ascendance wrote:

Artist Changed to C.H.S (It reminds me of things like Lite Show Magic, like combination of two artists, so I decided to use it)
This is triggering me, please just change back to t+pazolite feat. Rizna

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer. The sole exception to this is when a composer of a given circle is well-known enough by their own name. In this case, their own composer name may be used instead.
I think t+pazolite is well-known enough to be used there, I'm not sure most people will know what C.H.S refers to.
Almost every t+pazolite ranked song is under C.H.S label (or doujin circle) but the artist name is still t+pazolite

Lite Show Magic is a nickname for t+pazolite and C-Show collab and is still under C.H.S label, this is totally different from your interpretation
Fycho
Similar case as Halozy, t+pazolite puiblished the album as a circle, not personally. The circle hosts the album, even the song is composed by t+pazolite and vocal'd by Rizna. But why altering the artist to that there is a "feat." for the song? The official? Stop using other similar songs for reference, we are talking about this case. I don't know that the official uses t+pazolite feat. Rizna for the song, all I know is C.H.S the circle name. Unless you guys find a source that says " t+pazolite feat. Rizna" as artist, we should use "C.H.S" at the moment.
By the way, this is a vocal song, t+pazolite the composer as artist is incorrect as well, we can't ignore the vocal.
_handholding
>When more effort goes into checking the metadata than actually mapping
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Ascendance

Kisses wrote:

>When more effort goes into checking the metadata than actually mapping
shh don't let them find out
xEchoAlertx
Using this background pic is like mixing up "your" and "you're" -- makes no difference to people who do my know any better, but really cringeworthy/embarrassing to anyone who, in this case, knows anything about Touhou; and furthermore, it's extremely easily corrected: please just get a pic of Meiling.
xEchoAlertx
Using this background is analogous to mixing up "your" and "you're" -- makes no difference to anyone who doesn't know any better, but really cringeworthy/embarrassing to anyone who, in this case, knows anything about Touhou. And it's easily corrected: please get a pic of Meiling.
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Ascendance
I'm sorry dad.. Please come home
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