REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Marethyu

Joined January 2014

Marethyu 2017-01-17T16:53:19+00:00

2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: 00:54:555 (3,4) -
2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181521 REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [MrSergio's Insane]]
2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: Too sudden lol
2017-01-17 16:47 MrSergio: 00:51:355 (3,4) - it's slightly bigger than this tho :thinking:
2017-01-17 16:47 MrSergio: should I reduce it?
2017-01-17 16:47 maarten1278: yes
2017-01-17 16:47 maarten1278: This is a really calm section
2017-01-17 16:48 maarten1278: 1/2 + big spacing
2017-01-17 16:48 MrSergio: ok, slightly reduced, similar to the other onw
2017-01-17 16:48 MrSergio: well, it was more for emphasis, since those are the stronger beats of all the song probably
2017-01-17 16:48 maarten1278: Did you change 00:55:355 (5) -
2017-01-17 16:49 MrSergio: 00:54:555 (3,4) - reduced thos
2017-01-17 16:49 MrSergio: i
2017-01-17 16:49 maarten1278: But 5 is stacked on 4...
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: yeah, I moved 3
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: :p
2017-01-17 16:50 maarten1278: o
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082313 I used the overlap I use everywhere else in the map
2017-01-17 16:51 MrSergio: like... 00:59:655 (2,3) -
2017-01-17 16:51 MrSergio: and such
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: right
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: 01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - What's with emphasis herer?
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: * Here
2017-01-17 16:52 MrSergio: ah, that might need reworking. It was meant to follow better vocals, but since it was a remake of a remaked pattern I was kind of forced in that angle of the playfield
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: when I tried remapping that one I had 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - already this mapped and it worked so well that I didn't want to change it
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: and that's the result
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: wait, I just had an idea
2017-01-17 16:54 MrSergio: I can take 01:19:355 (1,2,3,4) - this and make a similar pattern
2017-01-17 16:54 MrSergio: umh... this might work out
2017-01-17 16:54 maarten1278: That would work
2017-01-17 16:54 maarten1278: It at least has the right emphasis
2017-01-17 16:55 MrSergio: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082351 ?]
2017-01-17 16:56 maarten1278: nice
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: or maybe...
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082359
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: so I also blanket 4 with the next slider
2017-01-17 16:58 maarten1278: But now 3 is roughly equal to 4 in spacing
2017-01-17 16:58 MrSergio: yeah
2017-01-17 16:58 MrSergio: I'll re-attach 4 to 3
2017-01-17 16:59 maarten1278: 01:15:755 (3,4) - I haven't seen a 1/2 stack with 2 vocals yet
2017-01-17 17:00 maarten1278: nvm
2017-01-17 17:02 maarten1278: 00:08:421 (2) -
2017-01-17 17:02 maarten1278: It really is 1/6
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: 01:15:755 (3,4) - as for this. In this section I keep switching back and fort from vocals to instruments and viceversa to create a more intense rhythm (it's kiai time after all)
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: the stack was meant to be a challenge since I kept doing differently for that
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: oh shit, that's 1/6 for real
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: aaaa
2017-01-17 17:05 maarten1278: All of them are
2017-01-17 17:06 MrSergio: damn
2017-01-17 17:08 maarten1278: 00:11:655 (2) - is 1/8 , but one more tick
2017-01-17 17:08 maarten1278: Like the top diff
2017-01-17 17:08 MrSergio: 00:11:755 - there;s a clap here tho (unless it's the hitsounding)
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: ah, wait
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: osu is drunk
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: it didn't recognize the snap
2017-01-17 17:10 MrSergio: I'll keep that on 1/6 too I guess tho, since it will be too complex and the difference is not that noticeable thanks to the slider having a larger hit window (you can get a 300 even if you hit a lot early or later)
2017-01-17 17:11 maarten1278: 00:20:155 (4,1) - Is that supposed to be a blanket?
2017-01-17 17:11 MrSergio: more or less xD
2017-01-17 17:12 MrSergio: ah damn, I gotta go pick up my little brother from school
2017-01-17 17:12 MrSergio: leave here the rest, I'll come back in around 15 minutes
2017-01-17 17:12 maarten1278: That's quick

As extra:
00:20:155 (4,8) - Examples of slightly wrong blankets. Fix them all pls.
00:31:755 (6,7) - The difference in spacing is too big imo. They are the same sound.
00:46:555 - Really nice switching here.
00:38:805 - You should put a 1/8 slider here, look at Ongakus diff.

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Riari 2017-01-19T18:16:36+00:00

ora ora ora

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:16:155 (1) - Make moving into this a strong dash instead? 00:16:355 (2) - feels more intense, but they both hyper at the same distance. 00:16:355 (2) - is also safer as a hyper because it is a slider, allowing excess movement at the end. Both hypering makes the latter note feel less important too, and this is the dumb sort of stuff Ascendance puts in his overdoses for no reason. Although it does fit, I feel like hypers should be clearer in this difficulty compared to the Overdose.
00:16:755 (3,4) - Hyper into 00:16:955 (4) - ? Consistency creates good flow with 00:16:355 (2) - , the movement as it is now sounds really off and pretty lacking, you hyper at 00:17:555 (6,1) - which is the same intensity. I think applying this and the point above work better together than what you have now, using this change and not applying the one above wouldn't work as well as the hyper density would suck for this part of the song, especially in a Rain.
00:24:955 (4) - Instead of continuing in the same direction here, consider making it a direction change? With a strong drum beat here (similar to 00:24:555 (2) - ) there is very little movement to show the intensity of the note. A direction change here would fit the janky style of the song as the density is not consistent.
00:26:155 (3) - Same suggestion as above, small spacing in the same direction, applying both and ctrl+h everything between and it continues fine into 00:27:355 (1) - . 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - is a good example of what I think works nicely.
00:48:555 (3) - This feels a bit too long, taking away from the feeling of the section. Parts such as 00:46:555 (1,2,3) - give off a feeling of a psuedo slow section, but long repeaters like this take away from it and look pretty ugly. Focusing upon points such as 00:48:555 - and 00:48:955 - instead with shorter notes creates a better and more consistent aesthetic than what you have now.
01:26:155 (1,1) - Could consider stacking them instead, not much difference but I like it more.

[Overdose]

00:23:755 (8) - Consider spacing this like you did with 00:23:355 (6) - and 00:24:155 (1) - ? I don't think there is a need to worry about the extra hyper here being a problem, it's consistent and not a massive difficulty spike to add.
00:34:955 (5,6) - Consider moving these to the left a bit so that 00:34:755 (4,5) - hypers? 00:34:955 - is a really strong beat and the hyper going into 00:35:355 (1) - shouldn't be much of a problem for the player considering the overall difficulty of this map.
00:41:755 (1,2,3,4) - as a single direction walk this feels a bit boring, consider changing direction at 00:42:155 (3) - to emphasize how strong the sound is, instead of leaving it in a simple walk.
00:42:955 (7,8) - These two notes shouldn't have the same spacing. 00:42:955 (7) - is a much stronger sound, but is (marginally) shorter than 00:43:155 (8) - . Keep the hyper for 00:42:955 (7) - but remove it for 00:43:155 (8) - ? I understand this flows well as chain hypers going into 00:43:355 (1) - but I feel that removing the middle hyper (00:43:155 (8) - in this case) would represent the style of the song and its awkwardness a lot better.
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pp xD
01:10:555 (1,2) - These don't hyper, increase the distance so it's consistent with the rest of your sore sore sore sore.
01:26:155 (1,1) - Similar suggestion to the Rain, I like stacking these a lot. Otherwise I would reduce the distance. It fits, but the intensity has gone and I don't think such a big distance is fun to play at the end of a map like this.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-01-21T13:24:55+00:00

Riari wrote:
ora ora ora ora

[Hyperion's Rain]
00:16:155 (1) - Make moving into this a strong dash instead? 00:16:355 (2) - feels more intense, but they both hyper at the same distance. 00:16:355 (2) - is also safer as a hyper because it is a slider, allowing excess movement at the end. Both hypering makes the latter note feel less important too, and this is the dumb sort of stuff Ascendance puts in his overdoses for no reason. Although it does fit, I feel like hypers should be clearer in this difficulty compared to the Overdose. Decided to just make these strong regular dashes instead for consistency with next point
00:16:755 (3,4) - Hyper into 00:16:955 (4) - ? Consistency creates good flow with 00:16:355 (2) - , the movement as it is now sounds really off and pretty lacking, you hyper at 00:17:555 (6,1) - which is the same intensity. I think applying this and the point above work better together than what you have now, using this change and not applying the one above wouldn't work as well as the hyper density would suck for this part of the song, especially in a Rain. This pairs with 00:15:155 (2,3) - in terms of intensity, and hypering all of them would be too much for this calmer intro section, I'll stick to regular dashes
00:24:955 (4) - Instead of continuing in the same direction here, consider making it a direction change? With a strong drum beat here (similar to 00:24:555 (2) - ) there is very little movement to show the intensity of the note. A direction change here would fit the janky style of the song as the density is not consistent. Done here and at 00:26:055 (2,3) -
00:26:155 (3) - Same suggestion as above, small spacing in the same direction, applying both and ctrl+h everything between and it continues fine into 00:27:355 (1) - . 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - is a good example of what I think works nicely. Fixed with above lol
00:48:555 (3) - This feels a bit too long, taking away from the feeling of the section. Parts such as 00:46:555 (1,2,3) - give off a feeling of a psuedo slow section, but long repeaters like this take away from it and look pretty ugly. Focusing upon points such as 00:48:555 - and 00:48:955 - instead with shorter notes creates a better and more consistent aesthetic than what you have now. Yeah I tried to fix this before but it's still naff, switched it out for consistency with similar parts
01:26:155 (1,1) - Could consider stacking them instead, not much difference but I like it more. I prefer a dash here, 01:26:555 (1) - is strong and a stack would feel anticlimactic to me
[Overdose]
00:23:755 (8) - Consider spacing this like you did with 00:23:355 (6) - and 00:24:155 (1) - ? I don't think there is a need to worry about the extra hyper here being a problem, it's consistent and not a massive difficulty spike to add. Done
00:34:955 (5,6) - Consider moving these to the left a bit so that 00:34:755 (4,5) - hypers? 00:34:955 - is a really strong beat and the hyper going into 00:35:355 (1) - shouldn't be much of a problem for the player considering the overall difficulty of this map. Ctrl+H'd 00:34:555 (3,4) -
00:41:755 (1,2,3,4) - as a single direction walk this feels a bit boring, consider changing direction at 00:42:155 (3) - to emphasize how strong the sound is, instead of leaving it in a simple walk. Did same as above
00:42:955 (7,8) - These two notes shouldn't have the same spacing. 00:42:955 (7) - is a much stronger sound, but is (marginally) shorter than 00:43:155 (8) - . Keep the hyper for 00:42:955 (7) - but remove it for 00:43:155 (8) - ? I understand this flows well as chain hypers going into 00:43:355 (1) - but I feel that removing the middle hyper (00:43:155 (8) - in this case) would represent the style of the song and its awkwardness a lot better. Sure
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pp xD deal with it
01:10:555 (1,2) - These don't hyper, increase the distance so it's consistent with the rest of your sore sore sore sore. I swear I have "fixed" this like 3 times now and it keeps breaking again wtf
01:26:155 (1,1) - Similar suggestion to the Rain, I like stacking these a lot. Otherwise I would reduce the distance. It fits, but the intensity has gone and I don't think such a big distance is fun to play at the end of a map like this. Same reasoning as Rain, I much prefer a jump here, and the spacing is exactly the same, bar smaller CS. Shouldn't be an issue for players at this level imo

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Overdose

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Nostalgic_old

597 posts

Joined January 2013

Nostalgic_old 2017-01-25T19:10:05+00:00

o/ m4m! Here is my map

General

[General]

Disable widescreen support
Combo colour not synchronized. Also don't you think they are just too similar?

Sore wa

[Sore wa]

unsnapped objects
00:08:421 (2,3,4) - 00:14:355 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend making them all repeat sliders. The ds difference is not enough for players to notice the 1/3 snapping change imo.
00:20:355 (2,3) - the spacing here is a bit confusing. I thought they were 1/2 apart while playing
00:28:755 (2,1) - stack the sliderend?
softhitwhistle7 is a bit too overused especially this iteration 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
A very fun map indeed

Mir's Hard

[Mir]

00:06:946 - 00:07:054 highly recommend you to map the drum sound
00:44:555 (3,1) - Trivial stuff: something like that to blanket 3?
00:52:555 (1) - What is this sliderend snapping?
And again softhitwhistle7 is a bit too loud and overused
01:08:955 (1,2,3,4) - Why not all 3/4 sliders?

Good luck

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-02-01T00:31:57+00:00

I fixed something on my own meanwhile

@maarten
tried fixing blankets lol
00:31:355 (5,6,7) - the spacing decreasing from 5 till 7 makes it not so noticeable, even tho 6 and 7 are the same :p
for 00:38:755 - it's either a 1/8 repeat slider or a more comfortable stream for circle that simplify the rhythm (they won't notice the difference anyway, it's always a bunch of beats no matter how you look at it lol)

ayy

osu file format v14

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Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-02-01T01:27:28+00:00

Nostalgic wrote:
o/ m4m! Here is my map

General
[General]
Disable widescreen support unnecessary
Combo colour not synchronized. Also don't you think they are just too similar?
changed

Sore wa
[Sore wa]
unsnapped objects oops
00:08:421 (2,3,4) - 00:14:355 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend making them all repeat sliders. The ds difference is not enough for players to notice the 1/3 snapping change imo. will change one of them
00:20:355 (2,3) - the spacing here is a bit confusing. I thought they were 1/2 apart while playing plays fine if you can read it
00:28:755 (2,1) - stack the sliderend? nah
softhitwhistle7 is a bit too overused especially this iteration 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) the whistles are there to follow the vocals, hence the whistles all over the map
A very fun map indeed thank you!

Good luck

thanks!

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-02-03T23:50:09+00:00

Nostalgic wrote:
o/ m4m! Here is my map
[Mir]
00:06:946 - 00:07:054 highly recommend you to map the drum sound
00:44:555 (3,1) - Trivial stuff: something like that to blanket 3? - no but i centered the 3 more
00:52:555 (1) - What is this sliderend snapping? - it's creative that's what it is. Gives more of a pull effect into the next note. The bpm is slow enough that this works imo but if it becomes a problem i'll shorten it
And again softhitwhistle7 is a bit too loud and overused - ongaku pls
01:08:955 (1,2,3,4) - Why not all 3/4 sliders? - dont wanna skip 01:09:955 - this beat

Good luck

updateo: https://puu.sh/tNcve/ffd0702236.osu

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,090 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-02-05T23:46:05+00:00

posting for kds from discord mod

cant put star icon rip

http://puu.sh/tQ5Vc/f7dddd4732.png

cant get kds either holy

Aniviuh

216 posts

Joined January 2015

Aniviuh 2017-02-11T05:40:17+00:00

- Easy -
When mapping easies you can only use 1 slider velocity throughout the map. Also one DS typically 1.0x. Try to keep under 1.5. Avoid overlapping. (Is just a geral suggestion when making easies. Try to avoid making anything remotely difficult.) Also the circle size is way too big. At this size it's just unnecessary.
00:17:555 (2,1) - Overlapping/stacking. Too intense for an easy. Example.
00:20:955 (1) - SV change. Not only that it's a huge jump from .75 to 1.5. Example.

Your other difficulties are great, don't let this discourage you.

Good luck on your journey!

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-02-11T05:54:58+00:00

ViolentBoo wrote:
- Easy -
When mapping easies you can only use 1 slider velocity throughout the map. Also one DS typically 1.0x. Try to keep under 1.5. Avoid overlapping. (Is just a geral suggestion when making easies. Try to avoid making anything remotely difficult.) Also the circle size is way too big. At this size it's just unnecessary. I wouldnt say you can "only use 1.0 SV." Overlaps shouldn't be a bit problem, unless its a note UNDER a slider, then yes, its a problem.
00:17:555 (2,1) - Overlapping/stacking. Too intense for an easy. Example. its 1/2 and players should be able to tell since the circle note is above the slider. but, i will change the CS.
00:20:955 (1) - SV change. Not only that it's a huge jump from .75 to 1.5. Example. the intro is .75, because it is the intro. its not changing anywhere else (other than the SV changes that arent mapped).

Your other difficulties are great, don't let this discourage you.

Good luck on your journey!

Thanks for the input

Jensen

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Jensen 2017-02-11T06:47:14+00:00

Sore wa

Hi there friend, to start I would like to say I really like the idea you're going for with this difficulty overall. You emphasize the slider flow and reading patterns in a very unique and interesting way, and a change in said flow when the music supports this it. Though you do this well, there are a few places where this flow change is not consistent in the way that is was previously represented.

The beginning section of the map, from 00:06:946 (1) - to 00:17:755 (1) has a large amount of awkward patterns that do not make very much sense when being compared to later parts of the map. Despite the music obviously changing, I feel they are less of a representation of the music and more like unpolished patterns that look a bit rushed or incomplete. Examples of this would be 00:16:155 (1,2,3) -, where the pattern is visually awkward with difficult play ability for no obvious reason when compared to the previously two and the following (00:14:555 (1,2,3) - 00:15:355 (1,2,3) - 00:16:955 (1,2,3) -) pattern(s). The music here does not support such a large spacing/angle change.
Another pattern not quite understandable is 00:10:955 (3,4,1) -, the straight line these circles travel in is visually out of place when compared to the previous pattern. When you have patterns at different angles and offsetting eachother like 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -, it's odd to have a pattern immediately following that supports and entirely different idea.

0:20:355 (2,3,4) - works very well as a transition, great work on this.

As previously mentioned, the flow changes are clearly demonstrated at the end of each measure in the music, but there are a few things to point out here.

00:24:855 (4,1) - Having the slider in this position creates a very uncomfortable motion when compared to previously similar patterns. Using the same shape and direction sliders as 00:24:155 (1,2) - does not make very much sense to me. It breaks the concept that the map uses, example being the two slider body shapes at 00:22:555 (1,1), the pattern before this. The difference between the last slider in the section (00:22:755 (2) - ) and the first slider in the next section (00:23:355 (1) - ) makes sense. I recommend a change to something like this http://puu.sh/tY0TF.jpg, where the flow can still break when moving into 00:25:355 (3,4) - like previously used, but also allows the movement to be far less uncomfortable. Regardless, a change to increase the quality of this section is important.

01:20:155 (6,1) - the nc's throughout this section seem a bit off, you may want to revise them.

Apologies for the wall of text, love the diff overall. Good luck on rank!

Ongaku

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Ongaku 2017-02-11T07:47:22+00:00

Jensen wrote:
Sore wa

Hi there friend, to start I would like to say I really like the idea you're going for with this difficulty overall. You emphasize the slider flow and reading patterns in a very unique and interesting way, and a change in said flow when the music supports this it. Though you do this well, there are a few places where this flow change is not consistent in the way that is was previously represented.

The beginning section of the map, from 00:06:946 (1) - to 00:17:755 (1) has a large amount of awkward patterns that do not make very much sense when being compared to later parts of the map. Despite the music obviously changing, I feel they are less of a representation of the music and more like unpolished patterns that look a bit rushed or incomplete. Examples of this would be 00:16:155 (1,2,3) -, where the pattern is visually awkward with difficult play ability for no obvious reason when compared to the previously two and the following (00:14:555 (1,2,3) - 00:15:355 (1,2,3) - 00:16:955 (1,2,3) -) pattern(s). The music here does not support such a large spacing/angle change.

00:14:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - are the same, until the drums 00:16:155 (1,2,3,4) - here. 00:16:155 (1,2) - is there to make the drums distinct from 00:15:355 (1,2,3,4) - , plus the angle. I did change a few things in the intro.
00:10:955 (3,4,1) - about these, i interpret these as 00:10:955 (3,4) - building up to the next measure for 00:11:355 (1) - , which is why I made the DS consistent with those three notes.

Another pattern not quite understandable is 00:10:955 (3,4,1) -, the straight line these circles travel in is visually out of place when compared to the previous pattern. When you have patterns at different angles and offsetting eachother like 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -, it's odd to have a pattern immediately following that supports and entirely different idea.

00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - emphasizes on the strings going lower, hence the visually decreasing notes. 00:09:755 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - on the other hand, is a new measure with the strings beginning to vary, which is why I decided to change the pattern.

0:20:355 (2,3,4) - works very well as a transition, great work on this. Thank you

As previously mentioned, the flow changes are clearly demonstrated at the end of each measure in the music, but there are a few things to point out here.

00:24:855 (4,1) - Having the slider in this position creates a very uncomfortable motion when compared to previously similar patterns. Using the same shape and direction sliders as 00:24:155 (1,2) - does not make very much sense to me. It breaks the concept that the map uses, example being the two slider body shapes at 00:22:555 (1,1), the pattern before this. The difference between the last slider in the section (00:22:755 (2) - ) and the first slider in the next section (00:23:355 (1) - ) makes sense. I recommend a change to something like this http://puu.sh/tY0TF.jpg, where the flow can still break when moving into 00:25:355 (3,4) - like previously used, but also allows the movement to be far less uncomfortable. Regardless, a change to increase the quality of this section is important.

00:24:855 (4,1) - I did fix the consistency of these by decreasing the DS from 00:24:555 (3) - , making them about 1.0.
00:24:155 (1,2) - I'll say this doesn't break the concept. This pattern is within the vocalist's first verse, hence the 00:21:755 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - and 00:28:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - on the beginning of each verse.
00:25:355 (3,4) - regarding these, i increased the DS.

01:20:155 (6,1) - the nc's throughout this section seem a bit off, you may want to revise them.

seems fine to me. 01:17:755 - resets the NC with this specific verse, including 01:19:155 - . 01:20:755 - I did, however, NC'd this.
01:21:755 - I also NC'd this because it starts on a big white tick, besides the combo is too long from 01:20:755 - .

Apologies for the wall of text, love the diff overall. Good luck on rank!

Thank you so much for the input!

SLM

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SLM 2017-02-19T06:50:59+00:00

Hello, from this post

[Easy]

* 00:08:155 (1,2,3) - Just a suggestion, maybe you could rotate this for a smoother flow.
http://puu.sh/u9KBU/fee49d2d31.jpg

* 00:25:755 (3) - NC, 00:26:755 (3) - remove NC

* 00:44:955 (3) - NC

* 00:54:555 (1) - unnecessary NC imo

* 00:57:755 (3) - ds error? It's quite noticable, I see you used 1.0x snap at 1.5x sv, but it's 1.34x without the green line.
http://puu.sh/u9L1r/484a48a4f8.jpg

[Normal]

* 00:16:955 (4) - Very confusing as a 1/2 gap from (3), cuz the spacing looks visually similar.

* 00:19:355 (1) - 00:19:955 (3) - 00:36:155 (3) - ^

* and lots of other objects throughout the map ^
e.g
00:25:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - they're switching between 1/2 and 1/1 but spaced same
00:49:755 (1) - 1/2 gap, 00:50:955 (3) - 1/1 gap but they visually look almost same.
00:52:155 (6,7,1) - ^
You should really rearrange those imo.

* 00:22:555 (4) - NC

* 00:25:755 (4) - 00:43:355 (3) - 00:44:955 (5) - 00:51:355 (4) - ^

* 00:57:755 (1,1) - Kinda ugly overlap.

* 01:00:455 (2) - Shouldn't this start at 01:00:555 - ? There is a super strong sound at 01:00:555 - that you can't just skip it.
Even the Hard is skipping the sound at 01:00:455 -.
If you really want to map 01:00:455 - , maybe change the rhythm like this. http://puu.sh/u9MvS/fee204db21.jpg

* 01:02:055 (2) - 01:03:655 (2) - and etc - ^

[Mir's Hard]

* 00:06:946 (1,2) - maybe make this into a slider? for the sake of the diff spread with Insane.

* 00:26:755 (4) - spaced too much imo

* 00:52:555 (1) - silence the sliderend?

[MrSergio's Insane]

* 00:06:946 (1) - Aimod says unsnapped, but idk.

* 00:24:155 (3) - 00:25:755 (5) - NCs should be placed here imo

* 00:30:555 (1,2) - Maybe seperate them since almost every stacks you used before this were 1/4.

* 00:32:155 (1) - ^ same reason, maybe ctrl+g?

* 01:21:755 (4) - NC

[Sore wa]
cool diff

That's all from me, Good luck!

Mir

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Mir 2017-02-19T11:43:31+00:00

SLM wrote:
Hello, from this post
[Mir's Hard]

* 00:06:946 (1,2) - maybe make this into a slider? for the sake of the diff spread with Insane.

* 00:26:755 (4) - spaced too much imo

* 00:52:555 (1) - silence the sliderend?

Applied all.

Update: https://mir.s-ul.eu/rjRFfss6

Ongaku

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Ongaku 2017-02-24T01:50:30+00:00

SLM wrote:
Hello, from this post

[Easy]

* 00:08:155 (1,2,3) - Just a suggestion, maybe you could rotate this for a smoother flow. I prefer the linear.
http://puu.sh/u9KBU/fee49d2d31.jpg

* 00:25:755 (3) - NC, 00:26:755 (3) - remove NC

* 00:44:955 (3) - NC

* 00:54:555 (1) - unnecessary NC imo

* 00:57:755 (3) - ds error? It's quite noticable, I see you used 1.0x snap at 1.5x sv, but it's 1.34x without the green line. applied this and the NCs
http://puu.sh/u9L1r/484a48a4f8.jpg

[Normal]

* 00:16:955 (4) - Very confusing as a 1/2 gap from (3), cuz the spacing looks visually similar.

* 00:19:355 (1) - 00:19:955 (3) - 00:36:155 (3) - ^

* and lots of other objects throughout the map ^
e.g
00:25:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - they're switching between 1/2 and 1/1 but spaced same
00:49:755 (1) - 1/2 gap, 00:50:955 (3) - 1/1 gap but they visually look almost same.
00:52:155 (6,7,1) - ^
You should really rearrange those imo. these are supposed to be emphasizing the 1/2, hence the stacking.

* 00:22:555 (4) - NC

* 00:25:755 (4) - 00:43:355 (3) - 00:44:955 (5) - 00:51:355 (4) - ^

* 00:57:755 (1,1) - Kinda ugly overlap.

* 01:00:455 (2) - Shouldn't this start at 01:00:555 - ? There is a super strong sound at 01:00:555 - that you can't just skip it.
Even the Hard is skipping the sound at 01:00:455 -.
If you really want to map 01:00:455 - , maybe change the rhythm like this. http://puu.sh/u9MvS/fee204db21.jpg

* 01:02:055 (2) - 01:03:655 (2) - and etc - ^ changed all of them, because i finally found the will to.

[Sore wa]
cool diff /w\

That's all from me, Good luck!

Thanks

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-02-24T12:23:35+00:00

SLM wrote:
[MrSergio's Insane]

* 00:06:946 (1) - Aimod says unsnapped, but idk. yeh, it complains since I have two timing sections so close to each other and the first is not snapped. I might fix timing myself at a later date. For now it is actually snapped (try listening at 25%), but osu just complains

* 00:24:155 (3) - 00:25:755 (5) - NCs should be placed here imo my combo-ing is way larger tho, nope. (If you provide a better reason I can see)

* 00:30:555 (1,2) - Maybe seperate them since almost every stacks you used before this were 1/4. what about 00:20:755 (2,1) - ? x) And tbh I don't want to use just one stack in the whole map to begin with :p

* 00:32:155 (1) - ^ same reason, maybe ctrl+g? that sucks tho. That pattern is one of the most hideous things I see around and I don't plan on using it

* 01:21:755 (4) - NC zzz, you watched too many 2016 maps, my dear. My combo-ing is longer than that to give me more freedom for structure.

Thanks for the mod, but no change.

@Ongaku I changed timing in the first part, so now you need just one red section at the start (I managed to put both beats on a 1/4 snap)
Update: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/usJNP9jr.rar

Ongaku

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Ongaku 2017-02-24T12:24:31+00:00

Hagdjeirbchsha

Arutsuki

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Arutsuki 2017-03-04T13:50:51+00:00

nm from queue

red=unrankable

was sore

•pretty sure these should be 4 notes in 1/8 00:08:421 (2,3,4) -
•00:09:755 (1,2,3) - kinda weird for these to have higher spacing than 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4) -, the first four have a higher pitch, same here 00:12:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - pink combo should be lower spaced
•00:21:555 (5,6,1) - the music doesnt really support this here, they'd fit much better at 00:23:155 - or 00:23:555 (2) - since there's an actual triplet in the music there
•00:56:355 (2,2,2,2) - overmapped lol
•01:02:555 (1,2,3,4) - this would fit the music better imo, the reverse is just confusing
•note that most of these repeat trough the whole map so check for them

sergioid

•00:11:621 (2,3) - this is 1/8
•00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I think these should gradually decrease their spacing to match what the song does in pitch
•00:38:555 (1,2,3) - 1/8 again

mir

•nice diff :>

normal

•Don't put different SV's on a normal, ideally it should be kept around the same as distance snap.
•Distance snap should be between 0.8 and 1.3, 0.1 difference shouldn't matter that much, but being that little it should be easy to fix.
•Don't overlap stuff like 00:23:755 (3,1) - 00:27:355 (1,3) - 00:30:155 (3,1) - 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - etc. It's confusing to plebs

20 distance snap errors, fix them pls.

easy

•Note density should consist of mostly 1/1, 2/1, or slower rhythms. Stuff like 00:17:555 (2,1) - 00:31:355 (2,3) - 00:26:555 (2,3) - should be avoided on an easy.
•Same as normal, avoid alternating SV.
•00:19:355 (1) - The overlaps could be easily avoided, plus the slider itself doesnt have the prettiest shape :<
•01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - Unnecessary NC's
•also check AiMod, not as many errors as normal but still some.

good luck

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-03-06T22:15:09+00:00

fixed first snap, thanks
Those triplets feel increasing to me: they repeat the same rhythm and each time it increases in intensity due to the repeat
the last 1/8 snap is simplified for gameplay purposes. The rhythm is complex anyway so as long as you click fast it doesn't matter exactly where. I don't plan on adding 1/8 circles anywhere for the sake of fidelity to the song, sorry.

I let Ongaku edit that 1/8 snap for me, it's pointless to send an update for such a fix anyway :p

Thanks for your mod~

Ongaku

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Ongaku 2017-03-06T22:29:02+00:00

Arutsuki wrote:
nm from queue

red=unrankable
was sore
•pretty sure these should be 4 notes in 1/8 00:08:421 (2,3,4) - it was, but played really weird.
•00:09:755 (1,2,3) - kinda weird for these to have higher spacing than 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4) -, the first four have a higher pitch, same here 00:12:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - pink combo should be lower spaced changed
•00:21:555 (5,6,1) - the music doesnt really support this here, they'd fit much better at 00:23:155 - or 00:23:555 (2) - since there's an actual triplet in the music there changed a few things
•00:56:355 (2,2,2,2) - overmapped lol this pattern ties in both vocals and instruments
•01:02:555 (1,2,3,4) - this would fit the music better imo, the reverse is just confusing did some fixing
•note that most of these repeat trough the whole map so check for them

normal
•Don't put different SV's on a normal, ideally it should be kept around the same as distance snap. I disagree, as long as it isn't all over the place, and is just one distinct section, it should be fine.
•Distance snap should be between 0.8 and 1.3, 0.1 difference shouldn't matter that much, but being that little it should be easy to fix.
•Don't overlap stuff like 00:23:755 (3,1) - 00:27:355 (1,3) - 00:30:155 (3,1) - 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - etc. It's confusing to plebs removed overlaps

20 distance snap errors, fix them pls.

easy
•Note density should consist of mostly 1/1, 2/1, or slower rhythms. Stuff like 00:17:555 (2,1) - 00:31:355 (2,3) - 00:26:555 (2,3) - should be avoided on an easy. fixed a few, keeping 00:31:355 (2,3) - .
•Same as normal, avoid alternating SV.
•00:19:355 (1) - The overlaps could be easily avoided, plus the slider itself doesnt have the prettiest shape :<
•01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - Unnecessary NC's aesthetics wise, its necessary. Consists with the other diffs.
•also check AiMod, not as many errors as normal but still some.

good luck

Thanks

[Exiled Wolf]

[Exiled Wolf] 2017-03-08T19:31:13+00:00

Mr.Sergio insane full when

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_handholding 2017-03-08T20:22:36+00:00

normal

00:39:355 (3) - Don't do this
00:57:755 (1) - Would make more sense if you used the SV increase in the kiai time only
Can you like, use one coherent DS and avoid patterns like 00:38:555 (1,2,3) ?
00:40:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spicing up the rhythm would be nice. feels like an easy diff here when you could have followed the vocals or added more depth to the instruments
00:37:755 (2,3) -You've used the same visual spacing as 00:34:555 (2,1) when they are different beat lengths. This is just one of the many places where reading by distance goes out the window
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't reflect the song imo

kds pls,

Ongaku

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Ongaku 2017-03-09T03:52:26+00:00

Kisses wrote:
normal
00:39:355 (3) - Don't do this k
00:57:755 (1) - Would make more sense if you used the SV increase in the kiai time only fine
Can you like, use one coherent DS and avoid patterns like 00:38:555 (1,2,3) ? changed things
00:40:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spicing up the rhythm would be nice. feels like an easy diff here when you could have followed the vocals or added more depth to the instruments did, was told to "kms"
00:37:755 (2,3) -You've used the same visual spacing as 00:34:555 (2,1) when they are different beat lengths. This is just one of the many places where reading by distance goes out the window did something
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't reflect the song imo it does dont worry. They were more dense before, but i made it less dense
kds pls,

k thx

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-03-11T10:16:01+00:00

[Exiled Wolf] wrote:
Mr.Sergio insane full when

That's a nice temptation

Halfslashed

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Halfslashed 2017-03-13T19:15:12+00:00

Free mod.
~~Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.~~

[Easy]
00:14:555 (1,1) - Maybe symmetry isn't the best arrangement here. I think it makes more sense for the slider ball of 00:16:155 (1) to hit the red node somewhere near 00:16:355. Maybe try a parallel arrangement instead?
00:16:155 (1) - Can't see any reason for this NC
00:17:555 (2,3,1) - Can't say I understand what's going on with the DS here. 00:14:555 (1,1,2) you make a clear switch to 1.07x DS (And it should be comprehensible), but then you switch to 0.8x and then 1.0x? This is fairly inconsistent distance, so perhaps change the DS between these objects to 1.07x?
00:19:355 (1,2) - Avoid this overlap if you can. I don't think it's the biggest deal, though it is a bit unclean.
00:22:555 (1) - Yeah I know intensity picked up and all, but I still think that NCing every measure is a bit much when you only have two objects per measure. Consider switching to a NC every two measure setup.
00:26:555 (2,1) - Two problems I have with this. First of all, this is an unexpected spacing change. Second, you didn't set up 1/2 repeats properly, since you didn't introduce any repeats other than this, and 1/2 is already really fast to comprehend for new players. If you're going to keep this rhythm, you should introduce a repeat of 1/1 or slower snap prior to this so that the player understands how repeats work.
00:48:155 (3,4,1) - Reconsider your spacing here. These are gaps between two seperate snaps and yet the spacing is extremely similar here, so I recommend making both 0.6x DS.
00:52:955 (1,2) - Why not try using circles for this? This is a less intense section, and circles with 2/1 gaps should be less stressful for players at this level.
00:57:755 (3,1) - This 2/1 gap looks extremely similar to the 1/1 gap between 00:56:955 (2,3), and is therefore pretty confusing. Create a more noticeable change here.
01:03:355 (2,1) - Nazi, but fix DS please.
01:08:155 (2,1) - As above.
01:08:955 (1,2) - I'm not entirely sure on the readability of this pattern for an Easy difficulty. Please get some more opinions on this.

[Normal]
00:08:155 (1,2,3) - You just started the map and you have 1/2 gaps that look the same as 1/1 gaps. This is not readable for players at this level at all, and you have this problem recurring throughout most of the map. I'll point out some instances where you do this, but this highly affects readability.
00:10:955 (4,1) - You could make this a bit neater, and I think it would improve readability due to the tight visual distance between 00:10:555 (3,4,1) . Basically, move 00:11:355 (1) onto the curve created by 00:10:955 (4).
00:14:555 (1,2) - Again, I'm questioning the readability of such a pattern for a normal difficulty. Get more opinions on this.
00:15:355 (2,3) - Another instance of rapidly changing your distance to be equal to a 1/2 snap.
00:17:555 (5,1) - The visually similar spacing thing applies to stacks as well. Since you introduced a 1/1 stack at 00:09:755 (1,2), you will confuse players quite a bit with switching to 1/2 stacks. Pick one or the other for this map.
00:24:955 (2,3) - DS looks the same as 00:24:155 (1,2).
00:29:755 (2,1) - This would work much better if you didn't have 2 overlapping the tail of 1. You could just change this by increasing the DS to 1.3x for 00:29:755 (2,3) (Or just this entire section.)
00:38:555 (1,2,3) - Would be better if you found a way to not have these overlap.
00:43:355 (1,1) - Off blanket and worth mentioning that you will not be able to get a perfect blanket with just one gray node. You need two or more to do so (I prefer three).
00:48:355 (2,3,1) - Patterning is kind of ambiguous since 2 leads into 1, as opposed to 3. It's not that bad since you have the NCing, but avoid this if you can.
00:57:755 (1,1) - This overlap is something else. I mean, it's kind of neat, but you could make it neater if you made the red node of the second slider towards the center of it (and not have the tails overlap).
01:02:555 (1) - Just barely touches the top of the HP bar.
01:11:755 (1,1) - No. Get rid of this reverse arrow stack, this is unrankable.
01:22:955 (2) - Border is slightly hidden behind the head of 2, I'd make the angle created by the red node a bit wider so the player can see the slider border more clearly. Also, could you do something about the massive distance between this and 01:23:355 (1)?

Okay. So basically, you should reconsider you distance concepts. You cannot randomly change distance in similar sections in the music, and you shouldn't do it between the same snap. If it's a long time, like 2/1 or greater (for this difficulty), it's okay not to have super consistent distance, but for a section of a certain musical intensity, 1/1 spacing should be consistent, 1/2 spacing should be consistent, 3/2 spacing, etc. Additionally, none of these various distances should look extremely similar.

[Mir]
00:08:355 (2,5,1) - Could make a neat equilateral triangle here.
00:15:955 (3,2) - I don't think these fit very well, considering intensity decreases in this section. You did lower the clicking density, but you still have a continuous stream of 1/2 here in a calm part.
00:17:555 (4,1) - This would probably work better as a 1/2 stack.
00:20:555 (1,1) - What is this overlap... I'm referring particularly to how the first slider overlaps the tail of the second.
00:45:755 (3,1) - Considering that you established 1/4 perfect slider tail stacking earlier in the map, this may not be the greatest idea, but this one is more subjective since the stack is 1/1. How about using your 1/1 overlap that you used at 00:49:755 (1,2)?
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - A slight SV change between each slider (Maybe like 0.05x increase) would be really cool here.
01:15:555 (2,3) - There's technically a vocal syllable on 3, but it might be better to swap this out with a 1/2 slider, since the vocal syllable on 3 is really subdued compared to the previous one.

Good luck.

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-03-13T22:25:51+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
Free mod.
~~Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.~~
[Mir]
00:08:355 (2,5,1) - Could make a neat equilateral triangle here. - too obscure to be noticeable imo ;-;
00:15:955 (3,2) - I don't think these fit very well, considering intensity decreases in this section. You did lower the clicking density, but you still have a continuous stream of 1/2 here in a calm part. - there are a lot more 1/1 length sliders and this is basically a first build-up into the chorus, I think it fits fine imo
00:17:555 (4,1) - This would probably work better as a 1/2 stack. - hmm I view the song as still being a quite fluid transition into the build-up so I think not having it stacked better reflects that
00:20:555 (1,1) - What is this overlap... I'm referring particularly to how the first slider overlaps the tail of the second. - idk.. I don't really get what's wrong with it
00:45:755 (3,1) - Considering that you established 1/4 perfect slider tail stacking earlier in the map, this may not be the greatest idea, but this one is more subjective since the stack is 1/1. How about using your 1/1 overlap that you used at 00:49:755 (1,2)? - yeah that's fair, done
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - A slight SV change between each slider (Maybe like 0.05x increase) would be really cool here. - sure, done
01:15:555 (2,3) - There's technically a vocal syllable on 3, but it might be better to swap this out with a 1/2 slider, since the vocal syllable on 3 is really subdued compared to the previous one. - I think it's fine because I want a lot of clicks here to emphasize the intensity. It's noticeable enough to justify a 1/2 circle imo so no change here ;-;

Good luck.

Thank you Halfy! <3

Update: https://puu.sh/uHxBh/c1e0963c5e.osu

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,090 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-03-15T04:27:07+00:00

ongaku fix ur fkin low diffs smh my head

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-03-19T04:56:37+00:00

https://puu.sh/uPxbH/2a21178c7d.txt

projectile vomitting

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,090 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-03-29T21:09:52+00:00

ok getting kds

SPOILER

16:32 Naotoshi: https://pastebin.com/u84Yv8Du
16:37 Ongaku: 00:13:800 (4,1) -
16:37 Ongaku: compared to my seciton
16:37 Ongaku: this is a huge jump
16:37 Ongaku: :(
16:40 Ongaku: 00:22:578 -
16:41 Naotoshi: ok ok ok
16:52 Naotoshi: 00:38:355 (1) - 
16:53 Naotoshi: 00:46:555 (1,2) - 00:48:155 (1,2) - 
16:53 Naotoshi: 00:56:955 (2,1) - 
16:54 Naotoshi: 01:07:355 (1,2,1) - 
16:55 Naotoshi: 01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - 
16:56 Naotoshi: 00:24:955 (2,1) - 
16:57 Naotoshi: 00:47:355 (2) - 
16:57 Naotoshi: ???
16:58 Ongaku: the DS is consistent tho
16:58 Ongaku: :(
16:58 Naotoshi: 01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - 
16:58 Ongaku: except for 00:48:155 (3) - , its a slider
17:03 Naotoshi: 00:38:355 (1) -

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-04-09T17:30:26+00:00

oaaaa that song, please rank it ongakun

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-04-15T23:15:51+00:00

chatted with Zirox, decided to buff Rain a bit to try and avoid spread issues. update below, hopefully he will mod ~~soon:tm:~~ sometime this year

Rain

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:宵々古今
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Tags:jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
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Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-04-15T23:18:41+00:00

yay

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-04-16T15:09:14+00:00

Say hi to the nerf squad

[Rain]

I still think you could add a couple hyperdashes in the intro section. You could do so in 00:09:355 (8,1,2) - , by moving (1) to the right a bit. If the jump to 00:10:355 (2) - becomes too close to an edge dash, you can either move 00:10:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - to the left until the HDash is triggered, or reduce the distance and have (7) moved to the left of (6). Another place where you could add a HDash is 00:12:755 (8,1) -
00:21:955 (4,5,6) - The (4,5) distance, while not an edge dash, might not be that hard to miss. So I suggest you move (5,6) a bit to the right to about x2,0 distance.
00:29:955 (6,7) - This might be a bit hard coming out of the 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could go for something like this:
SPOILER
00:36:155 (7,8,9) - I think this movement is bit hard, with 3 direction changes ending with an 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could Ctrl+H (8) and then move it a bit to the right to trigger the HDash again, or you can also make a sort of "stair" like this (it might look similarly hard, but in this case the HDash follows the direction of the slider, as opposed to your pattern):
SPOILER
00:41:355 (6,7) - This distance being a bit larger than 00:40:955 (4,5) - already makes a difference in how tight and easy to miss the pattern feels. I'd move (7) a bit to the left (x:284 keeps both HDashes).
00:41:755 (1,2) - You could have an HDash between these because the vocal is quite strong. For this, you can move (2) a bit to the right and then Ctrl+G (3) so the distance to it doesn't become too large.
00:43:955 (2,3) - Personally I expected a 1/1 slider like the previous one.
00:46:355 (6) - I'd move this slightly to the right (x:112 maybe?) to add some leniency after the 1/4 HDash.
00:46:955 (2) - I'd move this a bit to the right too (x:168?) to add some leniency after the previous HDash and to reduce the distance for the next dash, which feels a bit large (x2,20 starts getting on the section close to an edge dash)
01:00:955 (1,2,3) - These distances feel really odd to me. I know that you tried to emphasize the downbeat at (3) with the larger distance, but the way the vocals are emphasized with the 01:00:955 (1) - slider really makes you wonder why 01:01:555 (2) - isn't emphasized as much. So basically I'd have the larger distance to (2) instead of (3), for example by moving (2) to x:228.
01:04:155 (1,2) - I think it follows both the drums and vocals better as two 1/2 sliders instead.
01:05:155 (4,5,6,1) - I feel like 3 HDashes in a row might be too much (although still rankable). I'd try to take the one between (5,6) out.
01:06:355 (2,3) - Same comment as in 01:00:955 (1,2,3) -, I'd make (1,2) larger than (2,3)
01:09:755 (4,5) - I think this requires a bit more leniency after the 1/4 HDash, so move it a bit to the right.
01:14:755 (4) - I'd slant this slider, as the whole 01:14:555 (3,4,5) - pattern feels a bit harsh (3 direction changes, including 2 within a 1/4 window ending with an 1/4 HDash). If you slant the slider you take one of those direction changes out.
01:17:555 (4) - ^Similar stuff here. And I'd put 01:17:955 (6) - a bit closer to the previous object for some leniency.
01:21:755 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wew lad. This is way overdone for a Rain. The direction changes at 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - need to be toned down a bit, maybe by making the (1) slider go right instead (with the tail being at the right of (2). 01:22:155 (3,4) - Also needs a bit of reduction in spacing for leniency.
01:26:155 (1) - I'd put this a bit closer to the center (probably within the x:400 - x:420 range) since it's quite unexpected.

[Overdose]

00:13:755 (3,4) - This distance needs to be toned down for a bit of leniency. It's really easy to miss and the CS5 doesn't help at all.
00:14:305 (8) - This is overmapped.
00:16:955 (4,5) - ^Same with this one
00:17:505 (9) - Also overmapped.
00:20:355 (5,6) - I'd put these closer by moving (5) to the right a bit. This adds leniency to the movement after the HDash and makes the 1/4 dash between the circles less tight.
00:22:155 (6,7) - There are two things I personally dislike about this pattern: the usage of 1/4 is really sudden, both comparing to the Rain and with the 2 circles right before it, and it's topped of with lots of antiflow 1/4 movement (similar as the 3 direction changes mentioned for the Rain). You can probably move (7) like the following screenshot, which makes the pattern a bit easier due to the HDash following the direction of the slider:
SPOILER
00:23:355 (6,7,8) - The short 1/4 dashes might make this hard coming out of a 1/4 HDash followed by antiflow at 00:23:155 (5,6) - . I think you can move (7) a bit closer to make it a tiny bit easier. Maybe I'd also slant 00:23:355 (6) - a bit more to reduce the antiflow a bit.
00:24:555 (4,5) - I'd put them a bit closer to make it a bit more lenient. One grid space left for (4) and one grid space right for (5) keeps the HDashes.
00:29:555 (4,5,6,7,8) - I'd also try to tone this down. All the 1/4 HDashes are followed by antiflow movements, and that feels like a huge leap from the Rain. Also, I'd reduce the distance between (7,8) as the 1/4 dash + 2 direction changes + 1/4 HDash might be a bit too hard, too, in comparison to the Rain.
00:30:955 (3,4) - Reduce the distance for some leniency.
00:36:355 (6) - I'd put this to the left of (5), at x:92 or so. The pattern at 00:35:555 (2,3,4,5) - is not that easy to hit, and you top it off with a large 1/4 dash with antiflow between (6,7). If you put (6) on the left, the (5,6) movement keeps the direction of the previous HDash, making for an easier pattern.
00:37:755 (4,5,6,7) - I felt the 1/4 dashes between (4,5) and (6,7) innecessary and spiking the difficulty too much compared to the Rain. I think it plays nicer if you place them like this:
SPOILER
00:42:155 (3,4,5) - It really feels weird compared to the Rain, as in that diff you placed the dash between (3,4) instead and omitted the beat at 00:42:555 - , which in this diff has an HDash to it. It's inconsistent between both diffs, and personally I prefer the Rain approach. It's also inconsistent with 00:43:955 (4) -.
00:43:155 (7) - I'm not sure this beat is that strong to require an 1/4 HDash to it, so I'd remove it the HDash.
01:00:955 (1) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, since it's a strong antiflow movement after an 1/4 HDash and the high SV in the section might make the repeat easy to miss.
01:03:755 (9,10) - I'd reduce the distance a bit for some leniency.
01:04:155 (1) - I'd also slant this slider a bit more.
01:05:755 (1,2,3) - Same issue as mentioned for 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - , I think the (1,2) distance should be larger than (2,3).
01:05:355 (5,6) - The antiflow sliders make this feel a bit too much, and a big leap from the Rain. I'd prefer a normal flow pattern, kinda like 01:00:555 (6,7) -
01:08:355 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these a tiny bit for leniency.
01:09:055 (2) - This is so easy to overshoot after the two 1/4 HDashes. I'd make the slider have more movement to the left.
01:09:755 (5,6,7,8) - I'd also reduce these distances. It's harder than the pattern after it, even though the "sore, sore, sore" part is more intense.
01:14:555 (4,5) - Similarly to what I suggested for 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - in the Rain, I feel like the 2 direction changes are a bit too much. I'd try to shape the slider so that it flows into (5).
01:14:955 (6,7) - In any case, I feel like this is a bit harsh coming after the previous pattern, and I'd move (7) a bit closer to the (6). Maybe stack their heads?
01:17:755 (5) - Personally I'd make this a circle. This way you place complete emphasis on the vocals instead of deviating it to a really weak sound in the background with this slider's tail.
01:19:355 (4) - ^Same
01:22:155 (3,4,5,6) - I'd reduce the non HDash distances a bit for leniency.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-04-16T23:41:04+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Say hi to the nerf squad :thinking:

[Rain]
I still think you could add a couple hyperdashes in the intro section. You could do so in 00:09:355 (8,1,2) - , by moving (1) to the right a bit. If the jump to 00:10:355 (2) - becomes too close to an edge dash, you can either move 00:10:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - to the left until the HDash is triggered, or reduce the distance and have (7) moved to the left of (6). Another place where you could add a HDash is 00:12:755 (8,1) - I don't like a hdash here due to the pitch reduction. Downbeat or not, this doesn't feel strong enough to warrant a hdash for me
00:21:955 (4,5,6) - The (4,5) distance, while not an edge dash, might not be that hard to miss. So I suggest you move (5,6) a bit to the right to about x2,0 distance. Just moved (5) right for less of a difficulty spike overall
00:29:955 (6,7) - This might be a bit hard coming out of the 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could go for something like this:
SPOILER
I tried a less antiflowing pattern originally and it played exceptionally boring to me. 00:29:755 (5,6) - being walkable allows me to highlight the vocal switching much better without being especially punishing. I did reduce the hyper strength a little to compensate though
00:36:155 (7,8,9) - I think this movement is bit hard, with 3 direction changes ending with an 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could Ctrl+H (8) and then move it a bit to the right to trigger the HDash again, or you can also make a sort of "stair" like this (it might look similarly hard, but in this case the HDash follows the direction of the slider, as opposed to your pattern):
SPOILER
This is nice, emphasises the repetition a bit better also. Done
00:41:355 (6,7) - This distance being a bit larger than 00:40:955 (4,5) - already makes a difference in how tight and easy to miss the pattern feels. I'd move (7) a bit to the left (x:284 keeps both HDashes). Done
00:41:755 (1,2) - You could have an HDash between these because the vocal is quite strong. For this, you can move (2) a bit to the right and then Ctrl+G (3) so the distance to it doesn't become too large. Done, but had to make (3) fairly vertical to keep following patterning
00:43:955 (2,3) - Personally I expected a 1/1 slider like the previous one. Split because vocal on 00:44:355 (3) - is considerably stronger than in the previous combo
00:46:355 (6) - I'd move this slightly to the right (x:112 maybe?) to add some leniency after the 1/4 HDash. Reduced a little, though not as much as suggested as I want to keep some emphasis there
00:46:955 (2) - I'd move this a bit to the right too (x:168?) to add some leniency after the previous HDash and to reduce the distance for the next dash, which feels a bit large (x2,20 starts getting on the section close to an edge dash) Reduced by moving (1) right slightly with a previous change
01:00:955 (1,2,3) - These distances feel really odd to me. I know that you tried to emphasize the downbeat at (3) with the larger distance, but the way the vocals are emphasized with the 01:00:955 (1) - slider really makes you wonder why 01:01:555 (2) - isn't emphasized as much. So basically I'd have the larger distance to (2) instead of (3), for example by moving (2) to x:228. I had it like this originally but changed it because I wasn't sure the vocal emphasis came through that well. Open to giving it another try though I guess
01:04:155 (1,2) - I think it follows both the drums and vocals better as two 1/2 sliders instead. Slider + two 1/2 circles to keep vocal emphasis on the second half
01:05:155 (4,5,6,1) - I feel like 3 HDashes in a row might be too much (although still rankable). I'd try to take the one between (5,6) out. These vocals are equal strength, having them mapped with such different spacings feels very odd to me. I'd prefer to keep the current arrangement if possible
01:06:355 (2,3) - Same comment as in 01:00:955 (1,2,3) -, I'd make (1,2) larger than (2,3) Done
01:09:755 (4,5) - I think this requires a bit more leniency after the 1/4 HDash, so move it a bit to the right. Moved 01:09:955 (5,6,7) - right slightly
01:14:755 (4) - I'd slant this slider, as the whole 01:14:555 (3,4,5) - pattern feels a bit harsh (3 direction changes, including 2 within a 1/4 window ending with an 1/4 HDash). If you slant the slider you take one of those direction changes out.
01:17:555 (4) - ^Similar stuff here. And I'd put 01:17:955 (6) - a bit closer to the previous object for some leniency. Done
01:21:755 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wew lad. This is way overdone for a Rain. The direction changes at 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - need to be toned down a bit, maybe by making the (1) slider go right instead (with the tail being at the right of (2). 01:22:155 (3,4) - Also needs a bit of reduction in spacing for leniency. Made it more friendly for scrubs
01:26:155 (1) - I'd put this a bit closer to the center (probably within the x:400 - x:420 range) since it's quite unexpected. Alright
[Overdose]
00:13:755 (3,4) - This distance needs to be toned down for a bit of leniency. It's really easy to miss and the CS5 doesn't help at all. Nerfed it a bit for introduction's sake
00:14:305 (8) - This is overmapped. Consider it an after-effect of the sound at 00:14:255 (7) - this follows the sound much nicer as a 5plet than a triplet+1 in my opinion as with this the sounds are all "tied" together as part of the same reverberating sound, not distinctly different sounds as would be indicated by separating them
00:16:955 (4,5) - ^Same with this one I don't see how this is overmapped, there's a hyper to the drum sound and a 1/2 gap to the percussion sound
00:17:505 (9) - Also overmapped. As previously
00:20:355 (5,6) - I'd put these closer by moving (5) to the right a bit. This adds leniency to the movement after the HDash and makes the 1/4 dash between the circles less tight. Opted to weaken 00:19:955 (3,4) - instead
00:22:155 (6,7) - There are two things I personally dislike about this pattern: the usage of 1/4 is really sudden, both comparing to the Rain and with the 2 circles right before it, and it's topped of with lots of antiflow 1/4 movement (similar as the 3 direction changes mentioned for the Rain). You can probably move (7) like the following screenshot, which makes the pattern a bit easier due to the HDash following the direction of the slider:
SPOILER
Okay sure, serves as a bit better introduction I guess
00:23:355 (6,7,8) - The short 1/4 dashes might make this hard coming out of a 1/4 HDash followed by antiflow at 00:23:155 (5,6) - . I think you can move (7) a bit closer to make it a tiny bit easier. Maybe I'd also slant 00:23:355 (6) - a bit more to reduce the antiflow a bit. Opted to weaken 00:23:155 (5,6) - slightly instead
00:24:555 (4,5) - I'd put them a bit closer to make it a bit more lenient. One grid space left for (4) and one grid space right for (5) keeps the HDashes. Made them the same as the reformed 00:22:155 (6,7) - for consistency, reduced a tiny bit
00:29:555 (4,5,6,7,8) - I'd also try to tone this down. All the 1/4 HDashes are followed by antiflow movements, and that feels like a huge leap from the Rain. Also, I'd reduce the distance between (7,8) as the 1/4 dash + 2 direction changes + 1/4 HDash might be a bit too hard, too, in comparison to the Rain. Tried to weaken hypers and regular spacing a little
00:30:955 (3,4) - Reduce the distance for some leniency. Done
00:36:355 (6) - I'd put this to the left of (5), at x:92 or so. The pattern at 00:35:555 (2,3,4,5) - is not that easy to hit, and you top it off with a large 1/4 dash with antiflow between (6,7). If you put (6) on the left, the (5,6) movement keeps the direction of the previous HDash, making for an easier pattern. Agrred, the additional antiflow was excessive here
00:37:755 (4,5,6,7) - I felt the 1/4 dashes between (4,5) and (6,7) innecessary and spiking the difficulty too much compared to the Rain. I think it plays nicer if you place them like this:
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I prefer the tap dash pattern here, it follows the punchier vocal nicely and provides welcome variety
00:42:155 (3,4,5) - It really feels weird compared to the Rain, as in that diff you placed the dash between (3,4) instead and omitted the beat at 00:42:555 - , which in this diff has an HDash to it. It's inconsistent between both diffs, and personally I prefer the Rain approach. It's also inconsistent with 00:43:955 (4) -. Yeah this was really weirdly done, made it more consistent now
00:43:155 (7) - I'm not sure this beat is that strong to require an 1/4 HDash to it, so I'd remove it the HDash. Made this quite a bit simpler to aid in the "winding down" before the calm section
01:00:955 (1) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, since it's a strong antiflow movement after an 1/4 HDash and the high SV in the section might make the repeat easy to miss. Done
01:03:755 (9,10) - I'd reduce the distance a bit for some leniency. Ok
01:04:155 (1) - I'd also slant this slider a bit more. Did same change as for 01:00:955 (1) - for consistency, less horizontal now
01:05:755 (1,2,3) - Same issue as mentioned for 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - , I think the (1,2) distance should be larger than (2,3). Reversed these distances
01:05:355 (5,6) - The antiflow sliders make this feel a bit too much, and a big leap from the Rain. I'd prefer a normal flow pattern, kinda like 01:00:555 (6,7) - Fair enough, since I also have antiflow at 01:05:355 (5,6) - where it's more fitting I don't mind removing it here
01:08:355 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these a tiny bit for leniency. Done
01:09:055 (2) - This is so easy to overshoot after the two 1/4 HDashes. I'd make the slider have more movement to the left. Done and increased SV for better curve
01:09:755 (5,6,7,8) - I'd also reduce these distances. It's harder than the pattern after it, even though the "sore, sore, sore" part is more intense. Reworked this part so it's much simpler overall for better contrast
01:14:555 (4,5) - Similarly to what I suggested for 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - in the Rain, I feel like the 2 direction changes are a bit too much. I'd try to shape the slider so that it flows into (5). Simplified this a bit so it's more flow-y and stuff
01:14:955 (6,7) - In any case, I feel like this is a bit harsh coming after the previous pattern, and I'd move (7) a bit closer to the (6). Maybe stack their heads? Fixed with the above changes
01:17:755 (5) - Personally I'd make this a circle. This way you place complete emphasis on the vocals instead of deviating it to a really weak sound in the background with this slider's tail. I prefer to keep these as sliders for consistency on mapping to the held vocal sounds, and avoid an awkward 1/2 pause
01:19:355 (4) - ^Same As above
01:22:155 (3,4,5,6) - I'd reduce the non HDash distances a bit for leniency. Done

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Overdose

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Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-04-26T01:42:55+00:00

oh nooooooooooo

Aurele

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Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-05-04T02:47:14+00:00

cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Normal]

00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent.
00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here?
00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle.
00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
picture
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered.
00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3)
00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent.
00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing.
00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward.
00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing.
1. 00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility'
01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected?
01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing.
- On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-05-04T21:48:14+00:00

Gabe wrote:

cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Normal]
00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent. Its .80, isn't it?
00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here? the ~.80 spacing was when its two measures apart. 00:17:555 (2) - lands on a 1/2, so the DS would be shorter.
00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle. ok
00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
picture
fixed
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered. It is snapped to the center, its just due to it's stacking it looks like it isnt.
00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3) did something
00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent. fixed it
00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing. I think i fixed it.
00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward. did something
00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing. fixed it
00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
rearranged the pattern.
01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility' moved it down
01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected? I prefer to keep this pattern.
01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing. fixed the arrangement.
Due to (4) being stacked over slider (1), the placement is a bit funky.
On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
B-but it doesn't affect the gameplay that much D:
01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.
fixed

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs

Halfslashed wrote:
Free mod.
~~Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.~~ damn right

[Easy]
00:14:555 (1,1) - Maybe symmetry isn't the best arrangement here. I think it makes more sense for the slider ball of 00:16:155 (1) to hit the red node somewhere near 00:16:355. Maybe try a parallel arrangement instead? Did make 00:16:155 (1) - hit the red tick, but was told it was "too hard for an easy" and reconsidered.
00:16:155 (1) - Can't see any reason for this NC removed
00:17:555 (2,3,1) - Can't say I understand what's going on with the DS here. 00:14:555 (1,1,2) you make a clear switch to 1.07x DS (And it should be comprehensible), but then you switch to 0.8x and then 1.0x? This is fairly inconsistent distance, so perhaps change the DS between these objects to 1.07x? might have remapped this section
00:19:355 (1,2) - Avoid this overlap if you can. I don't think it's the biggest deal, though it is a bit unclean. cleaned
00:22:555 (1) - Yeah I know intensity picked up and all, but I still think that NCing every measure is a bit much when you only have two objects per measure. Consider switching to a NC every two measure setup. removed excessive NCs
00:26:555 (2,1) - Two problems I have with this. First of all, this is an unexpected spacing change. Second, you didn't set up 1/2 repeats properly, since you didn't introduce any repeats other than this, and 1/2 is already really fast to comprehend for new players. If you're going to keep this rhythm, you should introduce a repeat of 1/1 or slower snap prior to this so that the player understands how repeats work. already remapped it
00:48:155 (3,4,1) - Reconsider your spacing here. These are gaps between two seperate snaps and yet the spacing is extremely similar here, so I recommend making both 0.6x DS. all .60
00:52:955 (1,2) - Why not try using circles for this? This is a less intense section, and circles with 2/1 gaps should be less stressful for players at this level. I prefer having sliders.
00:57:755 (3,1) - This 2/1 gap looks extremely similar to the 1/1 gap between 00:56:955 (2,3), and is therefore pretty confusing. Create a more noticeable change here. 1.0 DS
01:03:355 (2,1) - Nazi, but fix DS please. holy
01:08:155 (2,1) - As above. fixed them
01:08:955 (1,2) - I'm not entirely sure on the readability of this pattern for an Easy difficulty. Please get some more opinions on this. rearranged

[Normal]
00:08:155 (1,2,3) - You just started the map and you have 1/2 gaps that look the same as 1/1 gaps. This is not readable for players at this level at all, and you have this problem recurring throughout most of the map. I'll point out some instances where you do this, but this highly affects readability. already remapped intro
00:10:955 (4,1) - You could make this a bit neater, and I think it would improve readability due to the tight visual distance between 00:10:555 (3,4,1) . Basically, move 00:11:355 (1) onto the curve created by 00:10:955 (4). remapped
00:14:555 (1,2) - Again, I'm questioning the readability of such a pattern for a normal difficulty. Get more opinions on this. remapped
00:15:355 (2,3) - Another instance of rapidly changing your distance to be equal to a 1/2 snap. remapped
00:17:555 (5,1) - The visually similar spacing thing applies to stacks as well. Since you introduced a 1/1 stack at 00:09:755 (1,2), you will confuse players quite a bit with switching to 1/2 stacks. Pick one or the other for this map. remapped
00:24:955 (2,3) - DS looks the same as 00:24:155 (1,2). i think i fixed it
00:29:755 (2,1) - This would work much better if you didn't have 2 overlapping the tail of 1. You could just change this by increasing the DS to 1.3x for 00:29:755 (2,3) (Or just this entire section.) remapped
00:38:555 (1,2,3) - Would be better if you found a way to not have these overlap. remapped
00:43:355 (1,1) - Off blanket and worth mentioning that you will not be able to get a perfect blanket with just one gray node. You need two or more to do so (I prefer three). remapped
00:48:355 (2,3,1) - Patterning is kind of ambiguous since 2 leads into 1, as opposed to 3. It's not that bad since you have the NCing, but avoid this if you can. fixed...?
00:57:755 (1,1) - This overlap is something else. I mean, it's kind of neat, but you could make it neater if you made the red node of the second slider towards the center of it (and not have the tails overlap). rearranged
01:02:555 (1) - Just barely touches the top of the HP bar. shouldn't now
01:11:755 (1,1) - No. Get rid of this reverse arrow stack, this is unrankable. removed
01:22:955 (2) - Border is slightly hidden behind the head of 2, I'd make the angle created by the red node a bit wider so the player can see the slider border more clearly. Also, could you do something about the massive distance between this and 01:23:355 (1)? moved border

Okay. So basically, you should reconsider you distance concepts. You cannot randomly change distance in similar sections in the music, and you shouldn't do it between the same snap. If it's a long time, like 2/1 or greater (for this difficulty), it's okay not to have super consistent distance, but for a section of a certain musical intensity, 1/1 spacing should be consistent, 1/2 spacing should be consistent, 3/2 spacing, etc. Additionally, none of these various distances should look extremely similar.

thankies <3

Negri_sk

298 posts

Joined January 2013

Negri_sk 2017-05-13T12:09:26+00:00

Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN".

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.)

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else!

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read?

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not.

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-05-14T07:59:06+00:00

Negri_sk wrote:
Hello Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN". Made a little walk, anything more is unpredictable with no prior musical cue

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.) Okay, simplified this

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else! I feel this is as interesting as I can get without introducing jumps, and 1/8 jumps at this BPM are a no-go

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read? I deliberately separated these to avoid that, such a widely spaced (on the timeline) stack is not predictable and offers less emphasis

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not. The music itself is not especially strong compared to the vocals before and after, and 1/8 hypers feel incredibly overdone spread-wise. I prefer a simpler pattern here

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say. Angle is increasing to aid the buildup effect, and also because I'm space limited on the right side

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Overdose

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Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2017-05-17T01:42:29+00:00

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