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August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells [OsuMania]

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snexe
282 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
snexe
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:04:20 AM

Artist: August Burns Red
Title: Carol of the Bells
Tags: christmas surfchu85 weber lost messengers the outtakes
BPM: 180
Filesize: 4716kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Chu's NM - 4Key (2.06 stars, 735 notes)
  2. HD - 4Key (3 stars, 1066 notes)
  3. MX - 4Key (4.1 stars, 1415 notes)
  4. Weber's EZ - 4Key (1.22 stars, 342 notes)
Download: August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Difficulties
Weber's EZ = READY FOR MODS
Chu's NM = READY FOR MODS
HD = READY FOR MODS
MX = READY FOR MODS

Special Thanks
Blocko for doing some magic in BPM changes at the end of the song!
puxtu for hitsounding this!
Last edited by snexe , edited 9 times in total.
Blocko
osu! Alumni
742 posts
Joined February 2014
Blocko
BPM shenanigans

Basically helped time the end of the song.

I sent the wrong paste
2016-11-21 01:07 E x e: blok
2016-11-21 01:07 E x e: need help with some bpm changes
2016-11-21 01:07 Blocko: hi
2016-11-21 01:07 Blocko: what's up
2016-11-21 01:07 E x e: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1134550 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells [MX]]
2016-11-21 01:07 E x e: just want you to take a quick look
2016-11-21 01:07 Blocko: nice christmas song
2016-11-21 01:07 Blocko: ye i can take a look real quick
2016-11-21 01:07 E x e: let me update it first
2016-11-21 01:08 Blocko: alright
2016-11-21 01:08 Blocko: uggg who do i ask for mods
2016-11-21 01:08 E x e: ok done
2016-11-21 01:08 E x e: i just want you to look at the ending
2016-11-21 01:08 E x e: idk if the bpm changes are correct
2016-11-21 01:09 E x e: uggg mods
2016-11-21 01:09 E x e: i can mod
2016-11-21 01:10 E x e: but look at this one first and tell me if they are correct :-(
2016-11-21 01:11 Blocko: 02:11:593 - sounds like it started slowing down here
2016-11-21 01:12 E x e: more like 02:12:260 - i guess
2016-11-21 01:14 E x e: just a slight offset change
2016-11-21 01:14 E x e: didnt slow down
2016-11-21 01:14 E x e: it*
2016-11-21 01:14 E x e: thats what i sounds like to me though
2016-11-21 01:14 Blocko: did you update again?
2016-11-21 01:14 E x e: not yet
2016-11-21 01:15 E x e: its just that 02:11:593- up until 2:12:260- is still the same
2016-11-21 01:16 E x e: but then the drum kinda sounded late in 02:12:281 -
2016-11-21 01:16 E x e: and then slowed down at 02:12:593 -
2016-11-21 01:18 E x e: i think i got them covered
2016-11-21 01:18 E x e: just not sure if the bpms are correct
2016-11-21 01:25 Blocko: uhh
2016-11-21 01:25 Blocko: i ended up doing something else
2016-11-21 01:25 Blocko: sorry
2016-11-21 01:26 E x e: :(
2016-11-21 01:26 Blocko: [http://puu.sh/spmg1/57bf09f081.txt paste this on the .osu file and see if it helps]
2016-11-21 01:26 Blocko: dunno how to explain it, it's just the offset is wonky at all places
2016-11-21 01:26 Blocko: hopefully that should help
2016-11-21 01:26 Blocko: be sure to resnap!!!
2016-11-21 01:27 E x e: should i just cut the mp3 :/
2016-11-21 01:27 Blocko: nah bruh
2016-11-21 01:28 Blocko: what i did was approximated the timing points so they're timed with the song as precise as possible
2016-11-21 01:28 Blocko: using guessing and testing
2016-11-21 01:28 E x e: but the
2016-11-21 01:28 E x e: txt
2016-11-21 01:28 E x e: you sent
2016-11-21 01:28 E x e: only has this
2016-11-21 01:28 E x e: "02:11:593"
2016-11-21 01:29 Blocko: oh shit really
2016-11-21 01:29 E x e: not sure what that means
2016-11-21 01:29 Blocko: guess i forgot to copy then
2016-11-21 01:29 Blocko: my bad
2016-11-21 01:29 E x e: yeah lmoa
2016-11-21 01:29 Blocko: [http://puu.sh/spmn9/86c118bfbd.txt here, paste this in the .osu file]
2016-11-21 01:29 Blocko: be sure to resnap!!!
2016-11-21 01:29 E x e: its fine
2016-11-21 01:30 Blocko: imma go brush my teeth brb
2016-11-21 01:30 E x e: ok ok
2016-11-21 01:31 E x e: ty blok
2016-11-21 01:32 Blocko: np
2016-11-21 01:32 Blocko: did it help?
2016-11-21 01:33 E x e: lemme see when im done resnapping
2016-11-21 01:33 E x e: im like 8 notes away
2016-11-21 01:34 E x e: oo i think it helps
2016-11-21 01:34 E x e: yee
2016-11-21 01:34 E x e: ty blok
2016-11-21 01:34 E x e: go post the log in the forums
2016-11-21 01:34 Blocko: the logs?
2016-11-21 01:35 E x e: yeha
2016-11-21 01:35 Blocko: kk

Best of luck on your map!
Weber
1,254 posts
Joined May 2015
Weber
EZ

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 0
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[Metadata]
Title:Carol of the Bells
TitleUnicode:Carol of the Bells
Artist:August Burns Red
ArtistUnicode:August Burns Red
Creator:E x e
Version:Weber's EZ
Source:
Tags:christmas
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puxtu
2,926 posts
Joined August 2013
puxtu
good shit
[MX]
00:18:552 (18552|0,18593|1) - are you drunk or what. I don't hear any grace sound
00:27:010 (27010|2) - should be a jump here, there's still a snare sound
00:51:427 (51427|0) - remove, no snare
01:14:593 (74593|0,74593|3) - yeah put a triple here just like the others

hitsounds http://puu.sh/sytZ6/1f7abe06dc.rar
Antalf
Beatmap Nominator
258 posts
Joined August 2016
Antalf
QUICK OPINIONS CUZ... cuz... E x e told me to.. In this mod(?) ill be talking AS an NM player, because its really what i am. Remember its just my opinions on how to make the map more comfortabe.

N M - C a n d y
NM: I feel like the nm is a bit too complicated to be a normal. Why am i saying this? Im a guy that recently started playing Mania, i can easily go for a 2*
and do decent on it but i felt like it was kind of.. how to say it, difficult for a player like me to play..

EX:
00:13:593 (13593|1,13593|0,13593|2,14593|0) - I can fairly miss and even get confused in this section.

00:27:760 (27760|3,27927|1,28093|2,28260|0) - Wouldnt mind some trills there since it feels uncomfotable double tapping here.

00:52:593 (52593|2,52593|1,52760|1,52927|0,53093|0,53260|3,53427|3,53593|0) - Quick example of why i find it difficult. Those LN with the double tap notes got me confused as hell, not saying its bad but, it wouldnt be a bad idea either to variate the pattern just to make it feel more comfortable.

00:55:593 (55593|3,56260|0,56593|1,56593|2,56927|0,57093|3,57260|0,57593|1,57593|3) - Honestly... Ill miss a lot here.. the arrengment is not the problem but it is what im dealing with, LN everywhere, i wont lie i played it several times and got used to the pattern but it was difficult to.

02:11:760 (131760|3,131927|3,131927|1,132103|0,132290|2,132290|0,132456|1,132623|3,132623|1,132810|2,132986|2,132986|0,133152|3,133328|3,133328|2,133528|0,133704|1,133704|0,133880|2,134080|2,134080|1,134267|3,134455|3,134455|0,134642|1,134842|3,134842|1,135048|2,135262|2,135262|0,135484|1,135714|2,135714|1,135964|3) - I KNOW ITS A LOT BUT... Fix it here, the bpm change and the double taps, makes me want to nuke someone (bit hard too)

WELP, thats all i have to give, hope this helps you improve a bit the map(or not)!

Make this ranked pls :^)
snexe
282 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
snexe

puxtu wrote:

good shit
[MX]
00:18:552 (18552|0,18593|1) - are you drunk or what. I don't hear any grace sound i do though idk, we'll see on other mods
00:27:010 (27010|2) - should be a jump here, there's still a snare sound low vol though
00:51:427 (51427|0) - remove, no snare huh
01:14:593 (74593|0,74593|3) - yeah put a triple here just like the others yeah it has a crash dumbo

hitsounds http://puu.sh/sytZ6/1f7abe06dc.rar
ty for hitsound fag
SurfChu85
322 posts
Joined June 2014
SurfChu85

Antalf wrote:

QUICK OPINIONS CUZ... cuz... E x e told me to.. In this mod(?) ill be talking AS an NM player, because its really what i am. Remember its just my opinions on how to make the map more comfortabe.

NM: I feel like the nm is a bit too complicated to be a normal. Why am i saying this? Im a guy that recently started playing Mania, i can easily go for a 2*
and do decent on it but i felt like it was kind of.. how to say it, difficult for a player like me to play..
In all honesty, I haven't really tried charting normal diffs on songs that are this intense, plus add my inexperience in charting easier diffs as is makes it more challenging for me. I just happened to get carried away with all of the sounds and made some sort of monster of a Normal diff in the process. I have to thank E x e for helping me nerf this thing and make it more reasonable. Hopefully, this is good enough.

The nerf
22:42 SurfChu85: test
22:44 E x e: test
22:44 *E x e is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140055 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells [Chu's NM]]
22:45 E x e: ok first of all
22:45 E x e: 00:03:593 - 00:11:593 -
22:45 E x e: you might wanna reconstruct the three notes
22:45 E x e: too like like the same as my hd
22:47 SurfChu85: mhmm, for the record, i only looked at the other diffs for reference later in the song
22:47 E x e: 00:11:593 - 00:19:593 - you might want to remove those double holds as well
22:47 SurfChu85: just noticed it now
22:47 SurfChu85: making the doubles on the measure lines as singles then
22:47 SurfChu85: if that's fine with you
22:47 E x e: those are fine actually
22:48 E x e: 00:03:927 (3927|1,4093|3,4260|2) - these and the others are not
22:48 E x e: for me
22:49 SurfChu85: i have crapnet atm, so expect dc's
22:49 E x e: ok ok
22:49 SurfChu85: also, it was like some attempt at PR
22:49 E x e: did you get what i said last?
22:49 SurfChu85: low-high-low and stuff
22:50 E x e: hm
22:50 SurfChu85: yours just follows a 1/2 trill-ish thing
22:50 E x e: honestly it looks ok naman
22:50 E x e: and it plays well din naman
22:51 E x e: but yea lets move on to the next one
22:51 E x e: 00:11:593 - 00:19:593 -
22:51 SurfChu85: the double holds are weird, yeah
22:51 SurfChu85: oh
22:51 E x e: yeah
22:51 E x e: they are
22:51 E x e: you could remove that short ln
22:51 SurfChu85: and then just retain the singles?
22:52 E x e: and replace it with the three notes
22:52 E x e: mhm
22:53 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDU3B/efd50b0178.jpg like this then?]
22:53 E x e: yeap
22:53 SurfChu85: mhmm
22:54 E x e: p.s.: your map is already hitsounded
22:54 SurfChu85: 00:17:593 (17593|0,18593|1,18760|3,18927|2,19093|1,19260|3,19427|2,19593|3,19593|1) - what do i do to these guys btw?
22:54 SurfChu85: yep, i noticed
22:55 E x e: keep them
22:55 E x e: actually release the hold here 00:18:593 -
22:56 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDUcv/8ae1257d7c.jpg repositioned also]
22:57 E x e: 00:19:593 - 00:23:593 -
22:57 E x e: consistency plx
22:57 SurfChu85: make similar to intro?
22:59 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDUj5/0a145ff4e8.jpg hoping that this is good]
23:00 E x e: hm yes
23:01 E x e: hmm
23:01 E x e: those minijacks are quite
23:01 E x e: column 2 and 3
23:01 E x e: not right
23:01 SurfChu85: mhmm
23:02 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDUru/b354f6fe17.jpg how bout this?]
23:02 E x e: looks good
23:02 SurfChu85: okay, to the good parts
23:03 SurfChu85: i am expecting some LN's to turn into singles yeesh
23:03 SurfChu85: ahaha
23:03 E x e: 00:27:593 - 00:35:593 -
23:04 E x e: 00:29:260 (29260|1,29427|2) - same sound
23:04 E x e: 00:29:427 (29427|2,29593|2) - not same sound
23:04 E x e: applies to everything until 00:35:593
23:05 SurfChu85: same -> minijack?
23:06 E x e: yeah
23:07 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDUFv/d3375a6946.png repositioning feels weird]
23:07 SurfChu85: *seems
23:08 E x e: ok lemme give you an example
23:08 E x e: 00:28:260 (28260|0,28427|0,28593|1,28593|3,28760|1) - this is okay
23:08 E x e: dapat ganun din yung kasunod niya
23:08 E x e: since parehas naman yung sound
23:08 SurfChu85: mhmm
23:09 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDULz/48f8eae8f3.jpg like this?]
23:11 E x e: yeee
23:11 SurfChu85: okay
23:11 SurfChu85: next
23:13 E x e: 00:43:593 - delete 1 note
23:13 SurfChu85: whoops
23:13 SurfChu85: done
23:13 E x e: 00:48:927 (48927|2,49093|2,49260|1,49427|1) - make these as holds na lang
23:14 E x e: like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6727257
23:14 SurfChu85: mhmm
23:14 SurfChu85: same for others i suppose
23:15 E x e: yeah
23:15 E x e: 00:47:593 (47593|0,47760|1,47927|2,48093|3) - make these as singles na lang
23:15 SurfChu85: marking 01:12:927 -  also
23:15 E x e: same for the others as well
23:17 SurfChu85: done
23:18 E x e: 00:51:593 - 00:55:593 -
23:18 E x e: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6727292 could be better with this
23:19 SurfChu85: and follow
23:19 E x e: yeap
23:19 E x e: 00:55:593 (55593|3,56593|2,57593|1,58593|0) -
23:19 E x e: remove
23:20 SurfChu85: earlier http://puu.sh/sDVek/ca4358af9b.jpg
23:21 E x e: 00:56:260 - 00:56:593 - 00:56:927 - 00:57:593 - 00:58:260 - 00:58:593 - 00:58:927 - add 1 note
23:21 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDVho/6d5eb84aa5.jpg repositioned some notes]
23:21 E x e: 00:59:593 - same here as well
23:21 E x e: gj
23:22 SurfChu85: done
23:24 E x e: 01:27:593 (87593|3,88593|2,89593|0,90593|1) -
23:24 E x e: remove
23:26 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDVvO/af3f39e058.jpg done[]
23:26 SurfChu85: rip link
23:27 SurfChu85: lemme reconnect
23:27 SurfChu85: brb
23:27 SurfChu85: back
23:27 E x e: ok
23:28 SurfChu85: SR currently at 2.07*
23:29 E x e: 01:47:593 (107593|3,107593|1,107927|3) -
23:29 E x e: 01:47:593 (107593|3,107927|3) - move this at 1
23:29 E x e: and this at 4
23:31 E x e: 02:05:593 -
23:31 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDVHK/fce551b143.jpg ?]
23:31 E x e: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6727406 make it look like this
23:31 E x e: and yea thats right
23:32 SurfChu85: 01:55:593 (115593|0,115760|1,115927|2,116093|3,116260|0) - these guys btw, singles or nah?
23:32 SurfChu85: probably the former for consistency but yeah
23:32 E x e: looks fine
23:33 E x e: its different into some other way
23:33 SurfChu85: mhmm
23:33 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDVQn/54d860f387.jpg done]
23:35 E x e: yeha i think im done
23:35 E x e: give me the .osu
23:35 SurfChu85: lemme do one run
23:36 SurfChu85: gonna see if i deleted more than what should be
23:36 E x e: ok ok
23:39 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sDW5K/ea438b0577.osu in case you don't see the discord mention]
23:40 SurfChu85: update tags also maybe
23:40 E x e: yea i saw
23:40 E x e: yea
23:40 E x e: isasabay ko na rin yung pagbalance sa bpm changes
23:40 SurfChu85: are you going to update?
23:41 SurfChu85: gonna re-dl after
23:41 E x e: yeah
23:45 E x e: nagcrash
23:45 E x e: ulupong
23:45 SurfChu85: rip
23:48 SurfChu85: gonna shoot some kd if you want
23:48 E x e: updating
23:49 E x e: upadted
23:51 SurfChu85: i'll post the chat log btw as a reply to the mod
23:51 E x e: okok
Todestrieb
305 posts
Joined February 2014
Todestrieb
Really short mod, fquick check during my break. I will maybe do a more in-depth mod later.

|0|1|2|3|

Weber's EZ

00:11:593 (11593|1) - Move to 3 for pitch.
00:13:593 (13593|0) - Move to 2 for pitch.
00:15:593 (15593|2) - Move to 1 for pitch.
00:17:593 (17593|1) - Move to 0 for pitch (the guitar is descending in pitch).
00:59:593 (59593|3) - I don't really understand why this LN is so long, if It's following the guitar It should end at 01:00:593.
02:22:782 (142782|2) - Why is there a note here? If It's for the bell, It's are also audible during the whole ending, and It feels really random.
02:23:327 (143327|1) - Same here, don't really understand the purpose of this note.

MX

00:41:760 (41760|3) - Missing clap here (you did chart it here 00:42:260 (42260|3) - ).
00:43:593 (43593|0) - The guitar here is not a single sound, you can hear two more sound at 00:43:760 and 00:43:843. (maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6755985?)
00:44:593 (44593|3) - ^
ByeForNow
283 posts
Joined October 2015
ByeForNow
mark for modww
snexe
282 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
snexe

Todestrieb wrote:

Really short mod, fquick check during my break. I will maybe do a more in-depth mod later.

|0|1|2|3|

MX

00:41:760 (41760|3) - Missing clap here (you did chart it here 00:42:260 (42260|3) - ). yep i missed it lol
00:43:593 (43593|0) - The guitar here is not a single sound, you can hear two more sound at 00:43:760 and 00:43:843. (maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6755985?) i know, i wanted to put it in that way tbh so ill keep it
00:44:593 (44593|3) - ^ ^
Weber
1,254 posts
Joined May 2015
Weber

Todestrieb wrote:

Really short mod, fquick check during my break. I will maybe do a more in-depth mod later.

|0|1|2|3|

Weber's EZ

00:11:593 (11593|1) - Move to 3 for pitch.
00:13:593 (13593|0) - Move to 2 for pitch.
00:15:593 (15593|2) - Move to 1 for pitch.
00:17:593 (17593|1) - Move to 0 for pitch (the guitar is descending in pitch).
00:59:593 (59593|3) - I don't really understand why this LN is so long, if It's following the guitar It should end at 01:00:593.
02:22:782 (142782|2) - Why is there a note here? If It's for the bell, It's are also audible during the whole ending, and It feels really random.
02:23:327 (143327|1) - Same here, don't really understand the purpose of this note.
All applied, thanks for the mod!
AyeAries
880 posts
Joined June 2015
AyeAries
:)
IRC with Surf
20:45 SurfChu85: wanna mod something?
20:51 Shiro-neechan: yeah
20:51 Shiro-neechan: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/545855 back to start :)
20:55 SurfChu85: already modded sorahana on the first version
20:56 SurfChu85: if it is re-charted drastically from that point, i might take that
20:56 *SurfChu85 is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140055 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells [Chu's NM]] <osu!mania> |4K|
20:59 Shiro-neechan: well i re-charted NM and some parts in HD and MX
20:59 Shiro-neechan: you can check it
21:02 SurfChu85: go pick if you want to mod that
21:02 SurfChu85: or
21:02 *SurfChu85 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/824731 Eureka (CV: Ise Mariya) - Puni-chan no Uta]
21:02 Shiro-neechan: i'll take this https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/524960
21:07 SurfChu85: if you can do an IRC mod
21:07 SurfChu85: then go
21:09 Shiro-neechan: okie
21:10 Shiro-neechan: i only mod your dif
21:10 Shiro-neechan: so open it
21:11 Shiro-neechan: 00:19:093 (19093|1) - move to column 0
21:12 SurfChu85: done
21:12 Shiro-neechan: wait
21:14 Shiro-neechan: 00:32:927 (32927|2,33093|1) - ctl+j
21:15 SurfChu85: done
21:17 SurfChu85: doing some PR checks on my own
21:17 Shiro-neechan: 01:13:927 (73927|2,74093|3) - ctl+g
21:17 SurfChu85: carry on
21:17 Shiro-neechan: okie
21:18 Shiro-neechan: 01:22:260 (82260|1) - move to column 0
21:20 SurfChu85: 01:13:927 (73927|2,74093|3) - is intended for PR, am not following the percussion here
21:20 Shiro-neechan: i see okie
21:21 Shiro-neechan: 02:03:927 (123927|0) - move to 2, 02:04:093 (124093|2) - move to column 0
21:21 SurfChu85: any reason for 01:22:260 (82260|1) - ?
21:22 Shiro-neechan: complicated with LN 
21:22 Shiro-neechan: much better if you put that on column 1
21:22 Shiro-neechan: 0 i mean
21:23 SurfChu85: 02:03:927 (123927|0,124093|2) - follows PR based on what i hear
21:23 Shiro-neechan:  okie 
21:25 Shiro-neechan: 02:07:093 (127093|2) - move to column 3 and 02:07:260 (127260|3) - move to column 1
21:26 SurfChu85: done
21:27 SurfChu85: last few sections are SV changes carried over from the other diffs btw
21:27 Shiro-neechan: yeah
21:28 Shiro-neechan: 02:16:373 - hmm i don't think no need to use LN instead a note for this diff.
21:29 SurfChu85: that's me doing finishers
21:29 SurfChu85: also, consistency with higher diffs
21:30 Shiro-neechan: ah i see btw
21:31 Shiro-neechan: this map has no preview point
21:31 Shiro-neechan: ask the E x e to add preview point for this map
21:31 Shiro-neechan: *the* XD
21:32 SurfChu85: did he just...
21:32 SurfChu85: lmao
21:32 Shiro-neechan: check aimod XD
21:33 SurfChu85: even on other diffs?
21:33 Shiro-neechan: yeah
21:33 Shiro-neechan: all diff
21:34 Shiro-neechan: that's all. XD
21:35 SurfChu85: okay, post chat log on the thread, ping E x e on discord
21:35 Shiro-neechan: okie :)
21:35 SurfChu85: will post the diff once i'm done with my personal edits
21:36 Shiro-neechan: sure. i'll wait :)

E x e, set a preview point for this map (all diffs)
SurfChu85
322 posts
Joined June 2014
SurfChu85

Shiro-neechan wrote:

:)
IRC with Surf
20:45 SurfChu85: wanna mod something?
20:51 Shiro-neechan: yeah
20:51 Shiro-neechan: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/545855 back to start :)
20:55 SurfChu85: already modded sorahana on the first version
20:56 SurfChu85: if it is re-charted drastically from that point, i might take that
20:56 *SurfChu85 is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140055 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells [Chu's NM]] <osu!mania> |4K|
20:59 Shiro-neechan: well i re-charted NM and some parts in HD and MX
20:59 Shiro-neechan: you can check it
21:02 SurfChu85: go pick if you want to mod that
21:02 SurfChu85: or
21:02 *SurfChu85 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/824731 Eureka (CV: Ise Mariya) - Puni-chan no Uta]
21:02 Shiro-neechan: i'll take this https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/524960
21:07 SurfChu85: if you can do an IRC mod
21:07 SurfChu85: then go
21:09 Shiro-neechan: okie
21:10 Shiro-neechan: i only mod your dif
21:10 Shiro-neechan: so open it
21:11 Shiro-neechan: 00:19:093 (19093|1) - move to column 0
21:12 SurfChu85: done
21:12 Shiro-neechan: wait
21:14 Shiro-neechan: 00:32:927 (32927|2,33093|1) - ctl+j
21:15 SurfChu85: done
21:17 SurfChu85: doing some PR checks on my own
21:17 Shiro-neechan: 01:13:927 (73927|2,74093|3) - ctl+g
21:17 SurfChu85: carry on
21:17 Shiro-neechan: okie
21:18 Shiro-neechan: 01:22:260 (82260|1) - move to column 0
21:20 SurfChu85: 01:13:927 (73927|2,74093|3) - is intended for PR, am not following the percussion here
21:20 Shiro-neechan: i see okie
21:21 Shiro-neechan: 02:03:927 (123927|0) - move to 2, 02:04:093 (124093|2) - move to column 0
21:21 SurfChu85: any reason for 01:22:260 (82260|1) - ?
21:22 Shiro-neechan: complicated with LN 
21:22 Shiro-neechan: much better if you put that on column 1
21:22 Shiro-neechan: 0 i mean
21:23 SurfChu85: 02:03:927 (123927|0,124093|2) - follows PR based on what i hear
21:23 Shiro-neechan:  okie 
21:25 Shiro-neechan: 02:07:093 (127093|2) - move to column 3 and 02:07:260 (127260|3) - move to column 1
21:26 SurfChu85: done
21:27 SurfChu85: last few sections are SV changes carried over from the other diffs btw
21:27 Shiro-neechan: yeah
21:28 Shiro-neechan: 02:16:373 - hmm i don't think no need to use LN instead a note for this diff.
21:29 SurfChu85: that's me doing finishers
21:29 SurfChu85: also, consistency with higher diffs
21:30 Shiro-neechan: ah i see btw
21:31 Shiro-neechan: this map has no preview point
21:31 Shiro-neechan: ask the E x e to add preview point for this map
21:31 Shiro-neechan: *the* XD
21:32 SurfChu85: did he just...
21:32 SurfChu85: lmao
21:32 Shiro-neechan: check aimod XD
21:33 SurfChu85: even on other diffs?
21:33 Shiro-neechan: yeah
21:33 Shiro-neechan: all diff
21:34 Shiro-neechan: that's all. XD
21:35 SurfChu85: okay, post chat log on the thread, ping E x e on discord
21:35 Shiro-neechan: okie :)
21:35 SurfChu85: will post the diff once i'm done with my personal edits
21:36 Shiro-neechan: sure. i'll wait :)
Thanks for the IRC session, came out of short notice, but yeah, still good.

Edits applied during mod +Personal Edits
snexe
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Protastic101
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Protastic101
IRC with surf for his 10/10 Normal diff
2016-12-21 08:48 Protastic101: i poke u
2016-12-21 08:50 SurfChu85: yoyoyo
2016-12-21 08:50 Protastic101: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140055 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells]
2016-12-21 08:50 Protastic101: :^D
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: gonna try to respond well even if my headset is broken ahaha
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: okay
2016-12-21 08:51 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 08:51 Protastic101: I mean, if you want me to forum post when you have better wifi or whatever, that's cool too
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: this is fine
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: lol
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: i'll tell you when everything's gone bad
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: lemme update first lol
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: i forgot to check exe's post
2016-12-21 08:52 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 08:53 SurfChu85: am eating sugar-coated rice crispies atm
2016-12-21 08:53 Protastic101: D:
2016-12-21 08:53 SurfChu85: so that i won't lose my mind
2016-12-21 08:53 Protastic101: So it's all updated or nah?
2016-12-21 08:54 Protastic101: Jesus all those bookmarks lol
2016-12-21 08:54 SurfChu85: all good now
2016-12-21 08:54 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 08:54 SurfChu85: and yeah, it's a habit of mine to place bookmarks prior to placing notes
2016-12-21 08:55 Protastic101: 00:03:927 (3927|1,4093|3,4260|2) - 00:04:927 (4927|0,5093|2,5260|1) - 00:05:927 (5927|2,6093|3,6260|1) - etc. Pitch relevancy wise, they're cool, but they're also repetitive to play the same movement over again
2016-12-21 08:56 Protastic101: I'd consider ignoring pitch in this case and just varying the arrangement slightly, so that it's a bit more varied
2016-12-21 08:57 Protastic101: 00:11:593 (11593|3,11593|2,11593|1) - I'm personally against using triples in Normal cause you don't ever really see them in use until Hard
2016-12-21 08:57 Protastic101: And the way it is right now is kind of just like mashing all keys at once since you also have to time the release of the LNs
2016-12-21 08:57 SurfChu85: mhmm
2016-12-21 08:58 SurfChu85: (this is why i should've brought a mouse with me)
2016-12-21 08:58 SurfChu85: (am away from home, in the mountains)
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: 00:17:593 (17593|2,17593|0) - Consistency wise, this either needs to be a triple or the other notes reduced to a double depending on what you did above
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 08:59 SurfChu85: made it doubles
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: yey
2016-12-21 09:00 SurfChu85: don't mind me applying everything you say right now lol
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: 00:19:927 (19927|1,20093|3,20260|2) - 00:22:927 (22927|0,23093|2,23260|1) - similar to the first suggestion, vary your movements here
2016-12-21 09:00 SurfChu85: i'm kind of bad at making easier diffs and i need all the help i can
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: use 1-2-3, or 4-3-2, etc.
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: Btw, if you need me to slow down or something, just say so lol
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: Lower diffs are what I'm best at XD
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: okay
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: Im a potato with higher diffs
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: wait
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: checking something
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 09:05 SurfChu85: at around 00:10:593 (10593|1) - [http://puu.sh/sWBRg/d746247b29.jpg do i need to switch columns?]
2016-12-21 09:05 Protastic101: What you mean?
2016-12-21 09:05 Protastic101: The pic you sent is fine
2016-12-21 09:06 SurfChu85: aok
2016-12-21 09:08 SurfChu85: okay, next
2016-12-21 09:08 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 09:09 Protastic101: 00:25:760 (25760|0,25927|1,26093|3,26260|2,26427|0) - Rather than use 1/2 notes which don't do anything to signify the change from 1/2 to 1/4 in the drums, I'd just simplify with an LN here, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860664
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:27:593 - in this section, I'ma point out the fact that column 4 is much less dense than the other columns, and you never use a 1/2 stack in 4 either.
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:29:593 (29593|0,29760|0) - in that case, I'd consider moving this to 4, and control H with 00:32:260 (32260|1,32427|1,32593|3) -
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: and shift once to the right
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:32:093 (32093|3) - then move this to 2 :^D
2016-12-21 09:11 SurfChu85: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860680 i onle copied what you said[
2016-12-21 09:12 SurfChu85: rip link
2016-12-21 09:12 SurfChu85: ughh, wait
2016-12-21 09:12 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 09:14 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWCjb/dba5a1c23f.jpg lemme do some personal edits]
2016-12-21 09:14 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 09:18 SurfChu85: moved a few stacks, kind of struggled in doing it
2016-12-21 09:18 SurfChu85: am hoping this is good enough lol
2016-12-21 09:18 Protastic101: Ah, it'll be fine I'm sure
2016-12-21 09:18 Protastic101: 00:35:593 - I do wanna state that this part picks up a bit in emphasis on the guitar, yet the chart becomes easier, so idk
2016-12-21 09:19 Protastic101: Might consider continuing the same mini stack structure you had going on before
2016-12-21 09:19 SurfChu85: then keep some of the 1/2 LN's?
2016-12-21 09:19 Protastic101: Yeah
2016-12-21 09:20 Protastic101: 00:35:927 (35927|1,36093|2) - so basically LNs like this are perf, but the 1/1 LNs should just be changed to stuff similar to 00:34:593 (34593|2,34760|2) -
2016-12-21 09:21 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWCFm/df26bb95a9.jpg how about this?]
2016-12-21 09:21 Protastic101: So beautiful I might cry
2016-12-21 09:22 SurfChu85: continue that?
2016-12-21 09:22 Protastic101: Yeah
2016-12-21 09:23 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:23 Protastic101: yey
2016-12-21 09:23 SurfChu85: it surprisingly plays well lol
2016-12-21 09:24 Protastic101: 00:43:593 (43593|0,44593|3) - Can you just simplify these to 1/1? I mean, the 1/4 jumps are a bit difficult to time for players of this level
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: (a part of me thought that those were unsnapped notes
2016-12-21 09:26 Protastic101: lmao
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: i forgot that i was viewing on 1/2 snaps)
2016-12-21 09:26 Protastic101: XD
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:27 SurfChu85: am really surprised that the signal here's quite strong despite being in the middle of nowhere lol
2016-12-21 09:27 Protastic101: Lmao
2016-12-21 09:27 Protastic101: meanwhile in America, the moment I step go out of my neighborhood my internet just flops over and dies
2016-12-21 09:28 SurfChu85: let's not jinx it please lol
2016-12-21 09:28 Protastic101: 00:47:593 - Would consider varying this 1/2 to have a bit more of a randomized feel to better represent the 1/4 drums
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860791 stuff like this I mean
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: (wasn't following the drums but okay)
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: 00:48:927 (48927|2,49260|1) - Also, for these 2 LNs, I'd consider moving them to 1 and 4 respectively and adding 1/2 notes at 00:49:093 - 00:49:427 - for the drum
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: oh nvm then lol
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: Just ignore me then XD
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: changing the focus to the drums
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: seems like most people tend to associate them with those
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 09:30 SurfChu85: might as well
2016-12-21 09:30 Protastic101: At least in lower diffs yeah, players tend to focus on the steady beat which tends to be the drums
2016-12-21 09:32 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWDbL/064808f576.jpg next section, which happens to be similar looks like this]
2016-12-21 09:32 SurfChu85: inb4 overdone
2016-12-21 09:33 Protastic101: it's 10/10
2016-12-21 09:33 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWDfm/60469e7493.jpg okay, did some changes]
2016-12-21 09:34 Protastic101: even more 10/10
2016-12-21 09:34 Protastic101: it's ngeng/10
2016-12-21 09:38 Protastic101: and the internet was jinxed
2016-12-21 09:51 SurfChu85: test
2016-12-21 09:53 SurfChu85: seems like bancho is back
2016-12-21 09:53 Protastic101: yep
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: 01:04:260 (64260|1,64427|0) - ok
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: so this
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: did I go over this?
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: I don't think I did
2016-12-21 09:54 SurfChu85: drums?
2016-12-21 09:54 SurfChu85: or switch columns?
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: When making LNs + short notes, it's best not to tether your stronger fingers (index fingers in this case) down to the keyboard with an LN
2016-12-21 09:55 SurfChu85: so switch?
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: Since your other fingers depend on the strength of your stronger ones you know? So hitting short notes that are on the middle finger while holding an LN with the index is uncomfortable cause of that
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: yeah switch
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: Just wanted to explain and make sure you knew why lol
2016-12-21 09:55 SurfChu85: gonna do it on 01:06:260 (66260|1,66427|0) - as well
2016-12-21 09:56 Protastic101: cool
2016-12-21 09:56 SurfChu85: okay, done
2016-12-21 09:57 SurfChu85: and understood the logic lol
2016-12-21 09:57 Protastic101: 01:07:427 (67427|1) - I'd consider removing this note since the LN at 01:07:260 (67260|0) - kind of covers it and the sounds around it. If accepted, move 01:07:593 (67593|2) - to 2
2016-12-21 09:58 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:59 SurfChu85: (ahh the sweet sound of jazz being heard when i remove my headset)
2016-12-21 09:59 Protastic101: lol nice
2016-12-21 09:59 Protastic101: 01:07:927 - 01:08:593 - 01:09:260 - 01:09:927 - would consider having another note at places like that for the snare
2016-12-21 10:00 Protastic101: 01:15:593 - As for here, it's fine to make all the 1/1 doubles cause they're all snares
2016-12-21 10:00 SurfChu85: any recommended columns?
2016-12-21 10:02 Protastic101: None really. I'd keep the ministacks you have, and just make it so the ministacks are pretty much everywhere like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6861095
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: around 01:15:593 - [http://puu.sh/sWEF9/af52d130f0.jpg how does this look?]
2016-12-21 10:04 Protastic101: beautiful, that's what :^)
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: oh that's where the screenie is
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: oh well
2016-12-21 10:06 SurfChu85: 01:07:927 - http://puu.sh/sWEMO/ee62ed2728.png
2016-12-21 10:06 Protastic101: 01:23:593 - Yeah, again starting here, would consider adding doubles for the snares like at 01:24:593 - 01:26:593 - 01:28:593 - for example
2016-12-21 10:07 SurfChu85: (am confused with adding since i can see a triple happening
2016-12-21 10:07 SurfChu85: )
2016-12-21 10:07 Protastic101: What, the stack in 2?
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: no, that is the whole section you highlighted earlier
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: but yeah, gonna move that note to 1
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWESZ/5d2a51e5a9.jpg looks like this now]
2016-12-21 10:09 SurfChu85: (working on 01:23:593 - now)
2016-12-21 10:09 Protastic101: ah, nice
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: 01:53:593 (113593|2,113760|3,113927|3,114093|2) - Whenever you finish that section, I just wanna say to be careful with your hand balance here. It'd be better to isolate the stack on one hand and put the other notes on the other hand like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6861163
2016-12-21 10:11 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWEZu/d2f76864b2.jpg about the snares...]
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: noooooo
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: ACTION prepares to shoot
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: When I say add doubles
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: I mean like
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: Add only 1 note along with the LN
2016-12-21 10:12 SurfChu85: (copied the one on the screenie)
2016-12-21 10:12 SurfChu85: (sorry for the stupidity lol)
2016-12-21 10:13 Protastic101: rip af lmao
2016-12-21 10:13 SurfChu85: wait, checking something
2016-12-21 10:13 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:15 SurfChu85: btw, do i add a note on 01:35:260 - ?
2016-12-21 10:15 SurfChu85: snares apparently
2016-12-21 10:16 Protastic101: I would in 3
2016-12-21 10:16 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWFfi/5126a6ed5f.jpg section from earlier]
2016-12-21 10:17 Protastic101: nice
2016-12-21 10:18 SurfChu85: 01:53:593 - [http://puu.sh/sWFiG/068d836ded.jpg move around the stacks?] i think i have a similar section earlier in the chart
2016-12-21 10:18 Protastic101: Nah, just for that one part cause the right hand was a little unbalanced
2016-12-21 10:19 SurfChu85: added some notes on 01:47:593 - from suggestion regarding snares
2016-12-21 10:20 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:22 Protastic101: 02:13:152 (133152|3,133328|2,133328|3) - I'd avoid putting the jumps on the same hand as the ministack. So basically, move 02:13:328 (133328|2,133704|1) - to the opposite hand
2016-12-21 10:22 SurfChu85: wait ughh, i think i might have messed something
2016-12-21 10:23 Protastic101: rippp
2016-12-21 10:23 SurfChu85: oh wait different section lol
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: 01:47:593 - is somewhat similar to 00:47:593 - (only thing is that, the drums are not as audible)
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: (no wonder)
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: wait wrong timestamp
2016-12-21 10:25 Protastic101: was about to say
2016-12-21 10:25 Protastic101: lol
2016-12-21 10:25 SurfChu85: 01:11:593 - there
2016-12-21 10:25 SurfChu85: working on 02:13:152 (133152|3,133328|2,133328|3) - now
2016-12-21 10:26 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:26 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWFHI/017ced7e0e.jpg like this?]
2016-12-21 10:27 Protastic101: sure
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: okay, next
2016-12-21 10:28 Protastic101: That's pretty much it lol
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: (no problems on 01:11:593 - ?)
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: oh wow lol
2016-12-21 10:29 Protastic101: Aside from varying the patterns to make it not look like a copy pasta of00:47:593 - , not really
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: lemme test
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: oh lol
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: so might as well stick with it
2016-12-21 10:29 Protastic101: yeah
2016-12-21 10:30 Protastic101: Guess Ima post the log then
SurfChu85
322 posts
Joined June 2014
SurfChu85

Protastic101 wrote:

IRC with surf for his 10/10 Normal diff
2016-12-21 08:48 Protastic101: i poke u
2016-12-21 08:50 SurfChu85: yoyoyo
2016-12-21 08:50 Protastic101: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140055 August Burns Red - Carol of the Bells]
2016-12-21 08:50 Protastic101: :^D
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: gonna try to respond well even if my headset is broken ahaha
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: okay
2016-12-21 08:51 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 08:51 Protastic101: I mean, if you want me to forum post when you have better wifi or whatever, that's cool too
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: this is fine
2016-12-21 08:51 SurfChu85: lol
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: i'll tell you when everything's gone bad
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: lemme update first lol
2016-12-21 08:52 SurfChu85: i forgot to check exe's post
2016-12-21 08:52 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 08:53 SurfChu85: am eating sugar-coated rice crispies atm
2016-12-21 08:53 Protastic101: D:
2016-12-21 08:53 SurfChu85: so that i won't lose my mind
2016-12-21 08:53 Protastic101: So it's all updated or nah?
2016-12-21 08:54 Protastic101: Jesus all those bookmarks lol
2016-12-21 08:54 SurfChu85: all good now
2016-12-21 08:54 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 08:54 SurfChu85: and yeah, it's a habit of mine to place bookmarks prior to placing notes
2016-12-21 08:55 Protastic101: 00:03:927 (3927|1,4093|3,4260|2) - 00:04:927 (4927|0,5093|2,5260|1) - 00:05:927 (5927|2,6093|3,6260|1) - etc. Pitch relevancy wise, they're cool, but they're also repetitive to play the same movement over again
2016-12-21 08:56 Protastic101: I'd consider ignoring pitch in this case and just varying the arrangement slightly, so that it's a bit more varied
2016-12-21 08:57 Protastic101: 00:11:593 (11593|3,11593|2,11593|1) - I'm personally against using triples in Normal cause you don't ever really see them in use until Hard
2016-12-21 08:57 Protastic101: And the way it is right now is kind of just like mashing all keys at once since you also have to time the release of the LNs
2016-12-21 08:57 SurfChu85: mhmm
2016-12-21 08:58 SurfChu85: (this is why i should've brought a mouse with me)
2016-12-21 08:58 SurfChu85: (am away from home, in the mountains)
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: 00:17:593 (17593|2,17593|0) - Consistency wise, this either needs to be a triple or the other notes reduced to a double depending on what you did above
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 08:59 SurfChu85: made it doubles
2016-12-21 08:59 Protastic101: yey
2016-12-21 09:00 SurfChu85: don't mind me applying everything you say right now lol
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: 00:19:927 (19927|1,20093|3,20260|2) - 00:22:927 (22927|0,23093|2,23260|1) - similar to the first suggestion, vary your movements here
2016-12-21 09:00 SurfChu85: i'm kind of bad at making easier diffs and i need all the help i can
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: use 1-2-3, or 4-3-2, etc.
2016-12-21 09:00 Protastic101: Btw, if you need me to slow down or something, just say so lol
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: Lower diffs are what I'm best at XD
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: okay
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: Im a potato with higher diffs
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: wait
2016-12-21 09:01 SurfChu85: checking something
2016-12-21 09:01 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 09:05 SurfChu85: at around 00:10:593 (10593|1) - [http://puu.sh/sWBRg/d746247b29.jpg do i need to switch columns?]
2016-12-21 09:05 Protastic101: What you mean?
2016-12-21 09:05 Protastic101: The pic you sent is fine
2016-12-21 09:06 SurfChu85: aok
2016-12-21 09:08 SurfChu85: okay, next
2016-12-21 09:08 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 09:09 Protastic101: 00:25:760 (25760|0,25927|1,26093|3,26260|2,26427|0) - Rather than use 1/2 notes which don't do anything to signify the change from 1/2 to 1/4 in the drums, I'd just simplify with an LN here, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860664
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:27:593 - in this section, I'ma point out the fact that column 4 is much less dense than the other columns, and you never use a 1/2 stack in 4 either.
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:29:593 (29593|0,29760|0) - in that case, I'd consider moving this to 4, and control H with 00:32:260 (32260|1,32427|1,32593|3) -
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: and shift once to the right
2016-12-21 09:11 Protastic101: 00:32:093 (32093|3) - then move this to 2 :^D
2016-12-21 09:11 SurfChu85: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860680 i onle copied what you said[
2016-12-21 09:12 SurfChu85: rip link
2016-12-21 09:12 SurfChu85: ughh, wait
2016-12-21 09:12 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 09:14 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWCjb/dba5a1c23f.jpg lemme do some personal edits]
2016-12-21 09:14 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-21 09:18 SurfChu85: moved a few stacks, kind of struggled in doing it
2016-12-21 09:18 SurfChu85: am hoping this is good enough lol
2016-12-21 09:18 Protastic101: Ah, it'll be fine I'm sure
2016-12-21 09:18 Protastic101: 00:35:593 - I do wanna state that this part picks up a bit in emphasis on the guitar, yet the chart becomes easier, so idk
2016-12-21 09:19 Protastic101: Might consider continuing the same mini stack structure you had going on before
2016-12-21 09:19 SurfChu85: then keep some of the 1/2 LN's?
2016-12-21 09:19 Protastic101: Yeah
2016-12-21 09:20 Protastic101: 00:35:927 (35927|1,36093|2) - so basically LNs like this are perf, but the 1/1 LNs should just be changed to stuff similar to 00:34:593 (34593|2,34760|2) -
2016-12-21 09:21 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWCFm/df26bb95a9.jpg how about this?]
2016-12-21 09:21 Protastic101: So beautiful I might cry
2016-12-21 09:22 SurfChu85: continue that?
2016-12-21 09:22 Protastic101: Yeah
2016-12-21 09:23 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:23 Protastic101: yey
2016-12-21 09:23 SurfChu85: it surprisingly plays well lol
2016-12-21 09:24 Protastic101: 00:43:593 (43593|0,44593|3) - Can you just simplify these to 1/1? I mean, the 1/4 jumps are a bit difficult to time for players of this level
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: (a part of me thought that those were unsnapped notes
2016-12-21 09:26 Protastic101: lmao
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: i forgot that i was viewing on 1/2 snaps)
2016-12-21 09:26 Protastic101: XD
2016-12-21 09:26 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:27 SurfChu85: am really surprised that the signal here's quite strong despite being in the middle of nowhere lol
2016-12-21 09:27 Protastic101: Lmao
2016-12-21 09:27 Protastic101: meanwhile in America, the moment I step go out of my neighborhood my internet just flops over and dies
2016-12-21 09:28 SurfChu85: let's not jinx it please lol
2016-12-21 09:28 Protastic101: 00:47:593 - Would consider varying this 1/2 to have a bit more of a randomized feel to better represent the 1/4 drums
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6860791 stuff like this I mean
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: (wasn't following the drums but okay)
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: 00:48:927 (48927|2,49260|1) - Also, for these 2 LNs, I'd consider moving them to 1 and 4 respectively and adding 1/2 notes at 00:49:093 - 00:49:427 - for the drum
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: oh nvm then lol
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: Just ignore me then XD
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: changing the focus to the drums
2016-12-21 09:29 SurfChu85: seems like most people tend to associate them with those
2016-12-21 09:29 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-21 09:30 SurfChu85: might as well
2016-12-21 09:30 Protastic101: At least in lower diffs yeah, players tend to focus on the steady beat which tends to be the drums
2016-12-21 09:32 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWDbL/064808f576.jpg next section, which happens to be similar looks like this]
2016-12-21 09:32 SurfChu85: inb4 overdone
2016-12-21 09:33 Protastic101: it's 10/10
2016-12-21 09:33 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWDfm/60469e7493.jpg okay, did some changes]
2016-12-21 09:34 Protastic101: even more 10/10
2016-12-21 09:34 Protastic101: it's ngeng/10
2016-12-21 09:38 Protastic101: and the internet was jinxed
2016-12-21 09:51 SurfChu85: test
2016-12-21 09:53 SurfChu85: seems like bancho is back
2016-12-21 09:53 Protastic101: yep
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: 01:04:260 (64260|1,64427|0) - ok
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: so this
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: did I go over this?
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: I don't think I did
2016-12-21 09:54 SurfChu85: drums?
2016-12-21 09:54 SurfChu85: or switch columns?
2016-12-21 09:54 Protastic101: When making LNs + short notes, it's best not to tether your stronger fingers (index fingers in this case) down to the keyboard with an LN
2016-12-21 09:55 SurfChu85: so switch?
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: Since your other fingers depend on the strength of your stronger ones you know? So hitting short notes that are on the middle finger while holding an LN with the index is uncomfortable cause of that
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: yeah switch
2016-12-21 09:55 Protastic101: Just wanted to explain and make sure you knew why lol
2016-12-21 09:55 SurfChu85: gonna do it on 01:06:260 (66260|1,66427|0) - as well
2016-12-21 09:56 Protastic101: cool
2016-12-21 09:56 SurfChu85: okay, done
2016-12-21 09:57 SurfChu85: and understood the logic lol
2016-12-21 09:57 Protastic101: 01:07:427 (67427|1) - I'd consider removing this note since the LN at 01:07:260 (67260|0) - kind of covers it and the sounds around it. If accepted, move 01:07:593 (67593|2) - to 2
2016-12-21 09:58 SurfChu85: done
2016-12-21 09:59 SurfChu85: (ahh the sweet sound of jazz being heard when i remove my headset)
2016-12-21 09:59 Protastic101: lol nice
2016-12-21 09:59 Protastic101: 01:07:927 - 01:08:593 - 01:09:260 - 01:09:927 - would consider having another note at places like that for the snare
2016-12-21 10:00 Protastic101: 01:15:593 - As for here, it's fine to make all the 1/1 doubles cause they're all snares
2016-12-21 10:00 SurfChu85: any recommended columns?
2016-12-21 10:02 Protastic101: None really. I'd keep the ministacks you have, and just make it so the ministacks are pretty much everywhere like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6861095
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: around 01:15:593 - [http://puu.sh/sWEF9/af52d130f0.jpg how does this look?]
2016-12-21 10:04 Protastic101: beautiful, that's what :^)
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: oh that's where the screenie is
2016-12-21 10:04 SurfChu85: oh well
2016-12-21 10:06 SurfChu85: 01:07:927 - http://puu.sh/sWEMO/ee62ed2728.png
2016-12-21 10:06 Protastic101: 01:23:593 - Yeah, again starting here, would consider adding doubles for the snares like at 01:24:593 - 01:26:593 - 01:28:593 - for example
2016-12-21 10:07 SurfChu85: (am confused with adding since i can see a triple happening
2016-12-21 10:07 SurfChu85: )
2016-12-21 10:07 Protastic101: What, the stack in 2?
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: no, that is the whole section you highlighted earlier
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: but yeah, gonna move that note to 1
2016-12-21 10:08 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWESZ/5d2a51e5a9.jpg looks like this now]
2016-12-21 10:09 SurfChu85: (working on 01:23:593 - now)
2016-12-21 10:09 Protastic101: ah, nice
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: 01:53:593 (113593|2,113760|3,113927|3,114093|2) - Whenever you finish that section, I just wanna say to be careful with your hand balance here. It'd be better to isolate the stack on one hand and put the other notes on the other hand like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6861163
2016-12-21 10:11 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWEZu/d2f76864b2.jpg about the snares...]
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: noooooo
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: ACTION prepares to shoot
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: When I say add doubles
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: I mean like
2016-12-21 10:11 Protastic101: Add only 1 note along with the LN
2016-12-21 10:12 SurfChu85: (copied the one on the screenie)
2016-12-21 10:12 SurfChu85: (sorry for the stupidity lol)
2016-12-21 10:13 Protastic101: rip af lmao
2016-12-21 10:13 SurfChu85: wait, checking something
2016-12-21 10:13 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:15 SurfChu85: btw, do i add a note on 01:35:260 - ?
2016-12-21 10:15 SurfChu85: snares apparently
2016-12-21 10:16 Protastic101: I would in 3
2016-12-21 10:16 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWFfi/5126a6ed5f.jpg section from earlier]
2016-12-21 10:17 Protastic101: nice
2016-12-21 10:18 SurfChu85: 01:53:593 - [http://puu.sh/sWFiG/068d836ded.jpg move around the stacks?] i think i have a similar section earlier in the chart
2016-12-21 10:18 Protastic101: Nah, just for that one part cause the right hand was a little unbalanced
2016-12-21 10:19 SurfChu85: added some notes on 01:47:593 - from suggestion regarding snares
2016-12-21 10:20 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:22 Protastic101: 02:13:152 (133152|3,133328|2,133328|3) - I'd avoid putting the jumps on the same hand as the ministack. So basically, move 02:13:328 (133328|2,133704|1) - to the opposite hand
2016-12-21 10:22 SurfChu85: wait ughh, i think i might have messed something
2016-12-21 10:23 Protastic101: rippp
2016-12-21 10:23 SurfChu85: oh wait different section lol
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: 01:47:593 - is somewhat similar to 00:47:593 - (only thing is that, the drums are not as audible)
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: (no wonder)
2016-12-21 10:24 SurfChu85: wait wrong timestamp
2016-12-21 10:25 Protastic101: was about to say
2016-12-21 10:25 Protastic101: lol
2016-12-21 10:25 SurfChu85: 01:11:593 - there
2016-12-21 10:25 SurfChu85: working on 02:13:152 (133152|3,133328|2,133328|3) - now
2016-12-21 10:26 Protastic101: oki
2016-12-21 10:26 SurfChu85: [http://puu.sh/sWFHI/017ced7e0e.jpg like this?]
2016-12-21 10:27 Protastic101: sure
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: okay, next
2016-12-21 10:28 Protastic101: That's pretty much it lol
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: (no problems on 01:11:593 - ?)
2016-12-21 10:28 SurfChu85: oh wow lol
2016-12-21 10:29 Protastic101: Aside from varying the patterns to make it not look like a copy pasta of00:47:593 - , not really
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: lemme test
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: oh lol
2016-12-21 10:29 SurfChu85: so might as well stick with it
2016-12-21 10:29 Protastic101: yeah
2016-12-21 10:30 Protastic101: Guess Ima post the log then

Thanks a lot, got to learn a good amount of stuff from this IRC session.

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Read this before reading/applying my mod, important!
Please note that this is only my opinions and thoughts on trying to help improve the map
Hence, please feel free to reject if you disagree with my suggestions
In order to further improve my mod quality in the future,
it would be appreciated if you reply them.
Should any parts you do not understand and need me to explain further,
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Weber's EZ
00:07:593 (7593|2,7927|3,8260|0) - shift as 4,3,1 and 00:08:593 (8593|1,8927|3,9260|0) - shift as 4,2,1
imo it's better to keep similar patterns from right column to left column for this
section since 00:03:593 - 00:11:593 - pitch goes from high to low, you can keep tho if its layered to chime sound

00:11:593 (11593|1,13593|0,15593|2,17593|1) - shift as 4,3,2,1 (preferbly for easy difficulty) or 4,2,3,1
for hand balance+pitch since pattern before that mostly focused on left hand 00:10:260 (10260|1,10927|1,11260|0) -

00:29:593 (29593|2) - probably slight hitsound error? Sampleset -> Soft
if im not mistaken, at every start of new beat you are setting Sampleset:soft finish for the note
for this section 00:27:593 - 00:42:593 -
Similar parts i found:
00:37:593 (37593|2) -
00:39:593 (39593|1) -
00:42:593 (42593|2) - + probably make a jump (add note at 4) here to empahise the sound better

00:49:927 (49927|1,50593|2) - shift one column to right, hand balance, since 00:49:593 (49593|0,49927|1,50260|0,50927|1,51260|0) - focused more on the left hand imo

00:59:593 - add note at 3 to make a jump to emphasie the sound more

for this section 01:09:593 - 01:12:593 - I would try this
https://i.gyazo.com/4ac141e0ade2389da37 ... d5a8e3.png
for hand balance,

01:13:593 (73593|1) - probably shift to 1 since different sound from 01:13:593 (73593|1) -

01:35:260 (95260|1) - maybe shift to 3, I'm not sure about having 3 notes continously on the same column for easy difficulty despite it being only 1/1
maybe im just picky, you can keep if you think it's ok

01:41:593 (101593|2,101927|0,102260|1,102593|2,102927|0,103260|1) - maybe shift as 4,2,1,4,2,1?
same reason as i said on 00:07:593 - part

01:45:593 (105593|3,105927|1,106260|2,106593|3,106927|2,107260|1) - maybe shift as 4,3,1,4,3,1?
same reason as i said above

01:50:260 (110260|2,110593|0,110927|0,111260|0,111593|0) - shift as 4,3,3,2,3?
for hand balance

02:15:262 (135262|2,136373|0) - shift one column to the right?
to have more distinct pitch as
02:14:080 (134080|1,134455|2,134842|1,135262|2) - 2323 pattern doesnt fit the music imo

Chu's NM
00:17:593 - add note at 4? similar to what you did for 00:15:593 - 00:13:593 - 00:11:593 - for having hands

00:18:593 - i would try this
https://i.gyazo.com/eeaa1b52c5812a5b6f6 ... 4dbc69.png
as it plays well with the music better imo
first 3 notes for the clap pitch next 3 for kick, finally jump for finish at highest pitch column 34

00:24:093 (24093|1,24260|3) - shift as 4,2 for hand balance

with no offence intended, 00:25:593 - 00:27:593 - feels really awkward to play because of how the hitsound doesnt go with the pattern well
i came up with something more trill-ish which seems to play that section better
https://i.gyazo.com/eb002bfd02c37580c82 ... 77207a.png
if accept, 00:25:427 (25427|3) - move to 3 to prevent jack on 4

00:28:260 (28260|0,28427|0,28593|1,28760|1,29260|1,29427|1,29593|0,29760|0) - I'm not sure about these mini-jackish patterns in a NM difficulty
but when playing them they seem to play out fine too, do check with more people about these parts (not a suggestion, just a thought)

same goes for 00:35:593 - 00:41:593 - where it is similar to the previous section but now with a more intense guitar sound imo
so the lack of layering here bothers me (no offence) when testplaying, i suggest layering mini jacks like you did on the section before like
00:35:760 - add note at 3
00:36:760 - add note at 2 then 00:36:927 (36927|1) - shift to 1
you probably get what i mean, of course lots of shifting would need to be done, ask me again if you need help/recheck for this part
you can keep tho if you think it's alright

00:56:093 (56093|0,56260|2) - shift as 3,1 less awkward for the fingers to press

00:56:093 (56093|0,56260|2) - 00:56:093 (56093|0,56260|2) - probably make all notes within these section as LN for consistency
01:07:927 (67927|3) - LN and end at 01:08:093 -
01:08:927 (68927|2) - LN and end at 01:09:093 -
etc

Just a thought, i think you placed 01:21:593 (81593|3,81927|2) - as LNs for the guitar sound so i assume 01:22:593 (82593|0,82927|1) -
is for the guitar sound too but i dont think i hear a different pitch guitar sound for 01:22:927 - so i suggest you might wanna place it as
normal note. But im not sure if its intended for consistency so up to you lol

01:31:593 - 01:35:427 - same thing for the similar parts earlier, i suggest making normal notes as LNs for consistency

noticed that 01:51:593 - 01:55:427 - is very different in terms of density when compared to similar but different beats section like
01:11:593 - 01:15:593 - i think you're trying different patterns so it wont keep being the same patterns throughout the whole song if im not mistaken
but im not sure if it'll be alright for consistency, please check with BN for this part or i suggest making them only single notes instead of jumps.

01:58:260 (118260|0,118427|1,118593|2,118760|3) - maybe make as 1/4 LN and shift as 1,3,2,4

01:58:927 (118927|0,119093|1) - not sure if this is layered to kicks (i think that's what it's called?) or guitar, if kicks, then it's fine,
if it's layered to guitar, 01:58:927 (118927|0) - should end at 01:59:260 - and 01:59:093 (119093|1) - should be deleted because there's only one
guitar sound at 01:58:927 - just like 01:14:927 - but different guitar pitch

02:16:373 - maybe add note at 1 to make a jump to emphasise the cymbal finish more

HD
00:19:593 - 00:23:260 - different density when compared to Chu's NM in terms of missing layering
of the guitar sound at 00:20:093 - 00:21:093 - 00:22:093 - etc
i suggest either layer the guitar sound in or exchange pattern with Chu's NM with you having the 1/2 notes pattern
and Chu's NM having the 1/1 pattern for the guitar sounds, for difficulty curve

00:39:260 (39260|3,39427|3,39593|0) - Ctrl+H for hand balance because of 00:38:593 (38593|3,38593|0,38760|2,38927|3,38927|1,39093|2) -
mainly focused more on right hand?

Just a thought, coming to 01:21:593 - i realised that this difficulty is more focused on the drum instruments than the guitar so im gonna bother
much about the guitar instrument for this difficulty's mod like 01:31:593 - having lack of LNs when compared to Chu's NM

01:39:343 (99343|0,99510|0) - shift to column 2? more spreaded out between 1234 columns

01:57:927 (117927|0) - shift to 2, different column as 01:57:760 (117760|0) - makes that part better to play imo

i suggest layering the kicks (1/4) at 01:59:260 - 01:59:593 - because it feels weird to suddenly chop off from the streams behind
with a simple 1/1 jumps layered to guitar. maybe something like this?
https://i.gyazo.com/e84dae4e060267ac7e1 ... 2a99c2.png

MX
00:03:593 - 00:10:260 -
I'm not sure about layering those notes as hands and jumps which i think is layered to the bell noise if im not mistaken
because of how the sound doesn't seem powerful enough to be a hands/jumps. It felt a little odd for me to play,
so i suggest you should make them jumps for 00:03:593 - 00:04:593 - etc
and singles for 00:03:927 (3927|0,3927|1,4093|3,4093|2,4260|1,4260|0) - etc
in my opinion

00:23:593 - add note at 2 to make a hand similar to previous difficulty
if accept, 00:23:927 (23927|0) - shift to 3 to prevent too much anchoring

00:24:927 (24927|2) - maybe shift to 2 to prevent 4 notes anchor on column 3 (3 notes anchor should be fine imo because of how the instrument plays for that part)

00:33:927 - maybe try this for hand balance, column 3 4 had higher density than 1 2
https://gyazo.com/e606354047594963bd119e70bf49bd82

01:14:593 - should be hand when refered to 01:14:093 - 01:15:093 - etc
maybe add note at 2 then 01:14:760 (74760|1,74927|2,75093|1,75260|2) - Ctrl+G

01:16:093 - 01:23:093 -
I dont really agree with the usage of jump trill patterns here as because like
01:16:093 (76093|3,76093|2,76177|0,76177|1,76260|2,76260|3) - is layered to the kicks+guitar sound if im not mistaken but
at 01:16:260 - or every 1/1 there's a much more impactful sound than the kicks+guitar, the drum+whistle and one with the chime too at 01:19:593 -
It kinda doesnt make sense to me to layer all the notes as jumps
(not to mention i think [23][14] jump trill pattern is actually quite uncomfortable to play imo)
so i suggest only layer the notes as jumps for the 1/1 parts you decide you layer and the rest as single notes
01:23:260 - is fine tho beacuse the 1/4 had drum which is impactful for jump trill to make sense to me
in my opinion.

01:49:427 (109427|2) - maybe move to 2 for hand balance

01:53:593 - should be a hand (add note at 4 imo)
01:54:593 - ^ (add note at 4 imo)
when refered to 01:13:593 -

02:05:593 - this part caught my attention but im not sure what to say, should be fine imo

I hope my mod helps, good luck!
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