2016-12-04 22:33 campa97: do you like insane difficulty?
2016-12-04 22:33 [ Pennek ]: Yeah, it's pretty good
2016-12-04 22:33 thank you *.*
2016-12-04 22:34 [ Pennek ]: Of course there are some things to brush up on, but you're getting there
2016-12-04 22:34 campa97:
2016-12-04 22:34 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:35 [ Pennek ]: Okay, just in general. it's okay to copy paste sliders and patterns.
2016-12-04 22:35 [ Pennek ]: If you have too many different shapes it can become confusing
2016-12-04 22:35 [ Pennek ]: especially in lower diffs
2016-12-04 22:35 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:36 [ Pennek ]: I like what you do in the start of the easy diff
2016-12-04 22:36 thanks a lot *.*
2016-12-04 22:36 campa97: and i like copy and paste to make a fluid flow
2016-12-04 22:36 [ Pennek ]: yeah do that
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: I'd really like to see some continuity in the patterns
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: Like this
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: 00:02:087 (2) -
2016-12-04 22:37 campa97: i like patterns and simmetry
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: 00:11:687 (1,2) - Here you could paste the ones i highlighted
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: Me too
2016-12-04 22:37 [ Pennek ]: before
2016-12-04 22:38 [ Pennek ]: These straight sliders 00:30:887 (4,5) - feel out of place because you have curved everything else
2016-12-04 22:38 campa97: uh, ok ^^
2016-12-04 22:39 [ Pennek ]: You could make them work
2016-12-04 22:39 [ Pennek ]: If you place it more like a pattern that follows the slider that runs before it
2016-12-04 22:40 [ Pennek ]: You understand what I mean?
2016-12-04 22:40 campa97: not too much
2016-12-04 22:40 [ Pennek ]: 1 second then
2016-12-04 22:40 campa97: i'm not able to speak english
2016-12-04 22:41 campa97: ok ^^
2016-12-04 22:42 [ Pennek ]: you know about circular flow?
2016-12-04 22:42 campa97: something
2016-12-04 22:42 [ Pennek ]:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Pishifat/videos2016-12-04 22:43 [ Pennek ]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYGatwQszwQ2016-12-04 22:43 campa97: i saw some of his videos
2016-12-04 22:43 [ Pennek ]: Nice!
2016-12-04 22:43 [ Pennek ]: Okay
2016-12-04 22:43 [ Pennek ]: Then it should be easy to understand
2016-12-04 22:43 campa97:
2016-12-04 22:43 campa97: yes
2016-12-04 22:44 [ Pennek ]: This note 00:30:887 (4) - feels awkward to play because you have to move mouse up, and then in the wrong direction. (not circular)
2016-12-04 22:44 campa97: oh yes, true
2016-12-04 22:44 [ Pennek ]: Okay nice, try to play around with that
2016-12-04 22:45 [ Pennek ]: 00:19:916 (4) - NC
2016-12-04 22:45 campa97:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67303552016-12-04 22:45 [ Pennek ]: yeah something like that
2016-12-04 22:45 campa97: so, is better this
2016-12-04 22:45 [ Pennek ]: yes
2016-12-04 22:45 campa97: ^^
2016-12-04 22:46 [ Pennek ]: same bad flow here 00:18:544 (3) -
2016-12-04 22:46 [ Pennek ]: and here 00:23:344 (2) -
2016-12-04 22:46 [ Pennek ]: CTRL J + rotate 90 degree to fix
2016-12-04 22:46 [ Pennek ]: and move back up
2016-12-04 22:47 campa97: did it
2016-12-04 22:47 [ Pennek ]: 00:25:401 (3) - this one is okay because it is an emphasized sound
2016-12-04 22:47 [ Pennek ]: but it needs NC
2016-12-04 22:47 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:47 [ Pennek ]: you need to resnap it though since you moved the other one
2016-12-04 22:48 campa97:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67303802016-12-04 22:49 [ Pennek ]: ^^
2016-12-04 22:49 campa97: or not...
2016-12-04 22:49 campa97: better redo 00:23:344 (2) -
2016-12-04 22:49 campa97: this slider
2016-12-04 22:49 [ Pennek ]: 00:34:316 (2) - same flow here
2016-12-04 22:49 [ Pennek ]: erhh
2016-12-04 22:50 [ Pennek ]: your choice, I'm not really sure what you changed so far
2016-12-04 22:50 [ Pennek ]: as for the one I just talked about
2016-12-04 22:50 [ Pennek ]: You can flip it ctrl H and rotate it
2016-12-04 22:51 campa97: yeah, better
2016-12-04 22:51 campa97: thanks
2016-12-04 22:51 [ Pennek ]:
http://puu.sh/sEi7h/b1514dbd16.jpg2016-12-04 22:51 [ Pennek ]: something like that?
2016-12-04 22:51 [ Pennek ]: this feels awkward to play 00:39:116 (3,4) -
2016-12-04 22:51 campa97: yes
2016-12-04 22:52 campa97: or that? 00:23:344 (2) -
2016-12-04 22:52 campa97:
http://puu.sh/sEi7h/b1514dbd16.jpg2016-12-04 22:52 [ Pennek ]: yeah that was the same i think
2016-12-04 22:52 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:52 campa97: ^^
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: 00:30:887 (4) - NC
2016-12-04 22:53 campa97: why awkward?
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: circular flow
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: instead of follow down and up
2016-12-04 22:53 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: you go in a straight line/a little up
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: and the follow back again
2016-12-04 22:53 [ Pennek ]: Follow the circle
2016-12-04 22:54 campa97: i get it
2016-12-04 22:55 [ Pennek ]: the strong sound here (the last big white tick on the slider) needs to be something you can click 00:43:230 (3) -
2016-12-04 22:55 [ Pennek ]: same for these 3 00:45:287 (1,2,3) -
2016-12-04 22:57 [ Pennek ]: 00:48:716 (4) - NC here because of the pattern you already have with NCs on strong sounds
2016-12-04 22:58 [ Pennek ]: 00:50:087 (1) - no NC here
2016-12-04 22:58 campa97: kk
2016-12-04 22:58 [ Pennek ]: 00:54:201 (3) - Again something clicky on last white tick on slider
2016-12-04 22:58 [ Pennek ]: + NC on that sound
2016-12-04 22:59 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 22:59 [ Pennek ]: 00:54:201 (3) - feels uncomfortable to play aswell (flow again
)
2016-12-04 23:00 campa97: yeah, true
2016-12-04 23:01 [ Pennek ]: 01:12:030 (1) - there needs to be a note on this strong sound
2016-12-04 23:02 [ Pennek ]: Spinners + sliders are passive mapping
2016-12-04 23:02 [ Pennek ]: slider ends*
2016-12-04 23:02 [ Pennek ]: and bodies
2016-12-04 23:02 [ Pennek ]: That means that they shouldnt be on notes where strong sounds are
2016-12-04 23:02 campa97: oh ok thanks
2016-12-04 23:02 [ Pennek ]: because that is where you should click
2016-12-04 23:02 campa97: yes
2016-12-04 23:02 campa97: so when i can add spinner?
2016-12-04 23:03 [ Pennek ]: I'd just remove that one
2016-12-04 23:03 campa97: and insert a break?
2016-12-04 23:03 [ Pennek ]: and copy the note you place here 01:12:030 (1) -
2016-12-04 23:03 [ Pennek ]: the system does that automatically
2016-12-04 23:03 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 23:03 [ Pennek ]: and insert it where your slider ends
2016-12-04 23:04 [ Pennek ]: I love what you do with the next 3 sliders
2016-12-04 23:04 [ Pennek ]: they help the buildup in the song
2016-12-04 23:04 campa97: i have to place the note under the slider?
2016-12-04 23:04 [ Pennek ]: what?
2016-12-04 23:05 [ Pennek ]: with the same spacing you used before
2016-12-04 23:05 campa97:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67305142016-12-04 23:05 campa97: like that
2016-12-04 23:05 campa97: ah ok
2016-12-04 23:05 [ Pennek ]:
2016-12-04 23:06 [ Pennek ]:
https://puu.sh/sEj8h/1776bef5fc.jpg2016-12-04 23:06 campa97: yes ^^
2016-12-04 23:06 [ Pennek ]: copy note 6 and add it to the strong sound where slider ended before
2016-12-04 23:07 [ Pennek ]: 01:25:744 (1) - NC and move to the right to create a better flow
2016-12-04 23:08 [ Pennek ]:
http://puu.sh/sEjeB/7bfa65a56f.jpg2016-12-04 23:08 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 23:08 [ Pennek ]: I'd tilt this more. It almost feels like a straight slider 01:27:116 (2) -
2016-12-04 23:08 [ Pennek ]: maybe copy this in some way 01:29:173 (1) -
2016-12-04 23:09 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 23:09 [ Pennek ]: 01:31:230 (3) - flow feels awkward here
2016-12-04 23:09 [ Pennek ]: you know what blankets are?
2016-12-04 23:10 campa97: no
2016-12-04 23:10 [ Pennek ]:
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Formation_Techn ... ket_Combos2016-12-04 23:11 [ Pennek ]: 2.5 in wiki description
2016-12-04 23:11 [ Pennek ]: in short; our brain likes blankets. they look nice and they feel nice
2016-12-04 23:11 [ Pennek ]: you can blanket these two
2016-12-04 23:11 [ Pennek ]: 01:31:230 (3,4) -
2016-12-04 23:12 campa97: ok, now i try to understand something
2016-12-04 23:12 [ Pennek ]: yes?
2016-12-04 23:12 campa97: oh, ok, understood
2016-12-04 23:12 [ Pennek ]: I'll try to show you
2016-12-04 23:13 [ Pennek ]: puush is slow
http://puu.sh/sEjA3/13a22c4684.jpg2016-12-04 23:13 [ Pennek ]: ;D
2016-12-04 23:14 [ Pennek ]: You can make it smaller or bigger if you want
2016-12-04 23:14 [ Pennek ]: you can do it easy if you follow approachcircle
2016-12-04 23:14 [ Pennek ]: and place middlepoint in the middle of slider
2016-12-04 23:14 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 23:14 [ Pennek ]: you got it?
2016-12-04 23:15 campa97: i got it but now i have to do it
2016-12-04 23:15 [ Pennek ]:
2016-12-04 23:15 [ Pennek ]: Nice!
2016-12-04 23:15 [ Pennek ]: I'll continue then
2016-12-04 23:15 campa97: ^^
2016-12-04 23:15 [ Pennek ]: You got this logged?
2016-12-04 23:16 [ Pennek ]: I'll upload it on the beatmap page afterwards so you can read it
2016-12-04 23:16 [ Pennek ]: this note that should follow the flow doesn't (circular) 01:36:030 (3) -
2016-12-04 23:16 [ Pennek ]: 01:36:715 (4) - NC
2016-12-04 23:17 [ Pennek ]: 01:42:201 (1) - NC
2016-12-04 23:17 [ Pennek ]: 01:53:173 (3) - NC
2016-12-04 23:18 [ Pennek ]: 01:53:858 (2) - slider ends on strong sound. need something to click
2016-12-04 23:19 [ Pennek ]: 02:02:773 (2) - flow
2016-12-04 23:19 campa97:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67306232016-12-04 23:19 [ Pennek ]: on the timeline try to move back
2016-12-04 23:19 [ Pennek ]: so you can see the circle going into 4
2016-12-04 23:20 [ Pennek ]:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... circle.png2016-12-04 23:20 [ Pennek ]: the green outside ring
2016-12-04 23:21 [ Pennek ]: And try to curve slider around it
2016-12-04 23:21 campa97: ok
2016-12-04 23:21 [ Pennek ]:
http://puu.sh/sEk79/11aa0a1635.jpg2016-12-04 23:22 [ Pennek ]: this ends on strong sound 02:06:201 (2) -
2016-12-04 23:22 [ Pennek ]: needs to be circle
2016-12-04 23:22 [ Pennek ]: the break you have needs to be mapped
2016-12-04 23:22 [ Pennek ]: 02:20:601 (1) - NC
2016-12-04 23:23 [ Pennek ]: 02:26:087 (1) - NC
2016-12-04 23:24 [ Pennek ]: 02:30:887 (2) - Flow
2016-12-04 23:25 [ Pennek ]: 02:31:573 (3) - NC
2016-12-04 23:25 [ Pennek ]: 02:35:687 (3) - Flow again (all are basically circular, I'm not going to continue to write it)
2016-12-04 23:28 [ Pennek ]: 02:42:544 (3) - I'd make this one short and put a circle on the last tick big tick. Like so
http://puu.sh/sEkuW/0125f81dfd.jpg2016-12-04 23:28 [ Pennek ]: 02:44:601 (5) - ends on strong sound. same issue as last couple of times
2016-12-04 23:28 [ Pennek ]: it also needs to be NC'ed
2016-12-04 23:28 [ Pennek ]: 02:44:601 (5) - and this shouldn't be NC
2016-12-04 23:29 [ Pennek ]: 02:51:458 (1) - no NC
2016-12-04 23:29 [ Pennek ]: 02:48:030 (1) - same as 02:42:544 (3) -
2016-12-04 23:30 [ Pennek ]: still NC on last big tick
2016-12-04 23:30 [ Pennek ]: 02:50:087 (2) - same as 02:44:601 (5) -
2016-12-04 23:31 [ Pennek ]: 02:53:515 (1,2) - Here the strongest sound is the guitar (idk wub sound) and I'd map it after that
2016-12-04 23:31 [ Pennek ]: feels wrong to map after background music
2016-12-04 23:31 [ Pennek ]: 02:54:887 (2) - I'd just delete this
2016-12-04 23:31 [ Pennek ]: and play with sliders instead
2016-12-04 23:32 [ Pennek ]: Here's an example of what you could do:
http://puu.sh/sEkOJ/a40f292da2.jpg 02:53:515 (1,2,3) -
2016-12-04 23:33 [ Pennek ]: 02:56:944 (4) - should be gone or moved ( again play with sliders for this section I would say
2016-12-04 23:33 [ Pennek ]: and map it to the wub sound
2016-12-04 23:34 [ Pennek ]: 03:00:030 (3) - here there is a repeat sound where you could use repeat sliders
2016-12-04 23:35 [ Pennek ]: 03:15:458 (3) - NC
2016-12-04 23:35 [ Pennek ]: 03:20:944 (4) -
2016-12-04 23:35 [ Pennek ]: Nc
2016-12-04 23:35 [ Pennek ]: Ooookay...
2016-12-04 23:35 [ Pennek ]: That's it for the Easy
2016-12-04 23:36 [ Pennek ]: Was this your first map?
2016-12-04 23:36 campa97: yes
2016-12-04 23:36 [ Pennek ]: Wow! That's great then
2016-12-04 23:36 [ Pennek ]: You are much better than I was when I started to play with mapping
2016-12-04 23:37 [ Pennek ]: