1. Easy (1.72 stars, 116 notes)
2. HazuWaga's Hard (3.49 stars, 250 notes)
3. Insane (4.6 stars, 333 notes)
4. Light Insane (3.98 stars, 254 notes)
5. Lilyanna's Normal (2.04 stars, 117 notes)

Halfslashed wrote:

[General]
This BG is already on https://osu.ppy.sh/b/265157 and https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907626. Try finding a new one?
I found like 3 that I think are decent, maybe you like one?:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DP6oiN59is8/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.wallpapersxl.com/get/8016881
http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/d ... lHUuJa.jpg

[Advanced]
00:02:395 (1) - I would make this parallel to 00:00:208 (1) instead of mirrored like how you have it for better interaction with 00:03:333 (3). ok
00:13:333 (1,3,1) - Even spacing would work well here if you can keep your stack with 00:13:489 (2) .Disagree mostly because 00:13:333 (1) - doesn't have any interaction with 00:13:958 (1) - , the reason 00:13:645 (3) - is parallel, past just visual cleaning, is because it is close enough to the following 1 such that it becomes a reference point when playing where as the prior 1 does not.
00:14:895 (3,1,2) - Antijump from 3 to 1 is uncomfortable to play, especially with the massive jump from 1 to 2. I wouldn't quite call it an anti-jump since its really a 1/1 jump. I decided to put movement here because there is still a held out note being played, and the reason 1 to 2 is a large jump is because of the introduction of the strong guitar sound.
00:18:333 (1,2) - Why aren't these parallel when 00:13:333 (1,2) are? because playability-wise it is unaffected, and the 3 note in each of these patterns conforms to an upcoming visual. It doesn't perfectly copy the prior pattern, but it has its similarities
00:22:864 (2) - I think this would fit more as a slider, since it maps the same sound as 00:22:708 (1). These patterns are weird to explain, but the difference of circles and sliders here isn't about what the current sound is, but its about what the following sound is.Aka I use motion to emphasize the sounds instead of objects, although I do this consistently in this section so its not really an issue.
00:23:333 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - These don't make sense. You use straight paths and sharp angles for most of the map, and then start using curves here.Should be fixed, I also changed how I separated the groups of circles to match the following patterns
00:23:645 (3) - I think there should be a jump here if you're planning to put a jump on all the vocals.^
00:27:395 (4,1) - Don't like this incoming angle.Since they are nearly stacked there isn't really an angle with it? idk what else to say.
00:27:864 (3) - Same as 00:22:864 (2) again, mentioned prior
00:31:145 (1,2) - Anti jump here is actually fine, but I think you should make it more obvious. Maybe something like this?: http://puu.sh/seQ0N/f2da53a777.jpg What I have now better defines how I want movement for sustained notes I haven't completely mapped.
Mind your other patterns, if you do this.
00:32:083 (1) - I think this should be two sliders. You have a similar intensity sound on 00:32:395 that deserves the same emphasis as this note.I disagree with proposal because the velocity of the slider forces the player to move back and forth to get full credit of the slider and thus creates emphasis on 00:32:395 - and the other times 1/2 beats the ends of this sliders covers.
00:32:708 (1,2) - I'm gonna stop pointing these out, but it's the same as 00:22:864 (2). mentioned prior
00:40:676 (1,1) - Try moving the first slider so that it interacts with the bend on the second one: http://puu.sh/seQbJ/21aaecd0f0.jpg (But neater ofc) done
00:42:083 (1) - Same as 00:32:083 (1) explained prior
00:41:770 (1) - I think this should be parallel to 00:41:145 (1), therefore also perpendicular to 00:41:614 (2). I disagree because nothing is really perpendicular to another object, so the angle these two objects create is more aligned with the visual aesthetic I have, (unless you linked a wrong slider then idek)
01:09:114 (2) - I mean, yeah, this works, and yeah, i know it's part of the theme of this map, but I think this rhythm would work better as 3 circles (applies to all the similar ones) I disagree for the reason you say it fits, and for the reason that because of the high velocity, the movement helps emphasis the 3 somewhat fuzzy sounding rhythms
01:12:317 (2,3) - I think this would work better as something like what you did at 01:12:551 (1,2) (mind your other patterns): http://puu.sh/seQBS/0ca1c7f6f2.jpg I disagree again because of how the movement emphasizes the rhythms. if 2 to 3 only required clicking there would be less power behind 2, thus reducing the emphasis on 3 that the drum lead-in creates.

01:25:364 (1,2) - Spacing should be farther apart. I tried something but I may need more feedback on how to change this pattern to still fit the visual aesthetic and fit the game-play element

ViolentBoo wrote:

Light Insane
01:25:676 (2) - (Optional)It would be really cool if you did something fancy with this last slider, like making the velocity very low, or making it really high but "scrunching" all the anchor points together (when adding them of course), also extending the slider to the next 4th tick. no because it takes away from the simplicity of the map, slider designs, and the movement.
Insane
01:09:895 (6) - (Optional)Unecessary, nothing happens at this moment, unless you added this purely just for gameplay reasons, which isn't a bad thing I've seen it done before on ranked maps. there is actually sound in the music to support this.
01:11:145 (6) - (Optional) ^ ^
01:25:676 (3) - (Optional)It would be really cool if you did something fancy with this last slider, like making the velocity very low, or making it really high but "scrunching" all the anchor points together (when adding them of course), also extending the slider to the next 4th tick.same as previous reason
Advanced
00:21:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Would be even greater to change the spacing between each note.disagreed, and this is because the approach to the map is about movement changes, there are a lot of parts where you need sharp movements to play it. And increasing the spacing between each note would take away from that, which is why the stream is so tight together, I might change it to something the better fits the movement idea I'm mapping to, but I don't have a thought for it yet.
There are just a lot of unecessary combo changes (they trigger me)

Great map! Sorry I couldn't find much more :ss
Also for this to get ranked, you'll need an easy or normal difficulty. (Which you probably already know.)
And how do you get your slider velocity over 2x?? I can never do it. It just locks me :<<
you have to change the game mode to taiko and it increases the range of SV.

pkk wrote:

General

1. 00:11:145 - to 00:22:708 - I think you should raise the volume to at least 65% or higher because it can be hard to hear the hitsounds ok i fix
2. 01:26:223 - you can end the slider here instead and it would still work, it could be nice to map more of that lingering guitar sound I don't do it because it would be inconsistent with how I mapped the rest of the map (at least for light insane insane and advanced.

Light Insane

1. 01:13:489 (2,3) - maybe stack these so the 1/1 isn't misread as 1/2, although getting some testplays from your target audience could be good fixed.
   
   
2. 01:23:958 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think this might be a bit difficult considering the difficulty of the rest of the diff (and maybe a bit mean to the rank 100k+ players who are going to play this (actually I'm not sure what rank usually plays 4 stars anymore)) but yea testplays could be good. If you wanted to emphasize the ending and maybe make a bit harder you could try something else like circle-slider patterns idk I need more opinions on this, but for now unchanged.

Insane

1. 00:11:458 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - these r gr8 nice jOB ty
   
   
2. 00:18:645 (5,1) - might be good to have more spacing here compared to 00:18:333 (4,5) - so you can place the emphasize according to the music
   also consider this for 00:19:739 (8,1) - Spacing towards a circle after a slider makes it fairly difficult to tell the exact amount of emphasis because of slider leniency. The emphasis exists on 1 because it introduces a different type of angle to lead into 2. As for 8,1, it follows this phrases angle usage but because it is 1/2 after a triple makes it has enough emphasis.
   
   
3. 00:22:083 (9) - you can NC here to emphasize the two sounds in the music as well as to break up the combo we w ok
   
   
4. 00:22:708 (1,2,3,4) - ya here i think you do a better job with emphasis in terms of where you put the jumps, but 00:23:020 (3,4,5) - could feel nicer to play if you moved 00:23:333 (5) - somewhere else so it isn't in a straight line with 00:23:020 (3,4) - , or in a relatively straight line. This type of movement can feel kind of rigid (just a bit) because it's in a relatively straight line and you have to change speeds between objects without changing direction that much. In contrast, I think 00:25:208 (1,2,3,4,5) - plays pretty well, so you can look into changing your pattern somehow (either changing the jump pattern, or the slider position/orientation) "feels nicer" and "plays well" are fairly subjective. I know what you are saying, and I believe that type of movement works well to emphasis this type of song. it also plays nearly the same as 00:22:708 (1,2,3) - and all the other patterns like that one that I copy and pasted throughout this section.
   
   
5. 00:33:020 (3,4,5) - like before, but more prominent since the slider also goes in the same direction as the circles. There's a bit of an awkward transition from 4 to 5 after you have to slow down from 3 to 4. Again, I recommend either changing the jump pattern so that 3 starts somewhere else, or move the slider.
   However, 00:32:551 (7,1,2) - in your light insane plays better, and I think this is because slider 2 is raised slightly upwards as well as 1 being on the first beat of the measure again I disagree, there is nothing wrong with diverse movement.
   
   
6. 01:14:270 (2,3) - I suggest spacing these out more so that your 1/2 spacing matches how you normally space in the kiai, e.g. at 01:04:270 (2,3) - they are spacing differently because of the phrases relative strength. The part that is actually repeated is 01:06:770 (2,3) - and not 01:04:270 (2,3) - I lower the spacing and change the angle to reflect the change of intensity in the music while also allowing future notes to have more accurate and deserving emphasis as seen with 01:04:270 (2,3) -
   
   
7. 01:23:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - following the NC pattern of every beat is ok for the most part, but for patterns like this you can try grouping your circles into threes, so that your comboing looks like 123 - 123 - 123 - 12. That might make it easier to read since the map doesn't exactly end on a downbeat
   alright.

Advanced

1. I really like this diff, the way you tied it all together with the linear sliders is pretty cool plus your 1/4 jumps that abuse slider leniency to create emphasis, those r cool 2 ty
   
2. 00:41:926 (2) - consider changing this circle into a 1/2 slider like the one before it since both guitar sounds are relatively similar; it will also create a sense of movement in the map as you go into the repeat slider, unless you didn't want thatthe one before has higher intensity so the 1/4 slider makes it harder to move into the 1/2 double repeat slider. the circle here makes for a good transition toward the circle and slider diversity in the following section while giving appropriate emphasis to the sound it supports.
   
   one way you could do it

   
   
   
   
3. 01:01:145 (3,1,2) - this can be tricky to read because of spacing, I'd think that 3 to 1 would be 1/4 The notes are close enough to be read correctly. and among test plays from 7k to 1k I haven't seen a person misread this rhythm. I also find the spacing correctly emphasizes the lack of strength in the music behind it.
   
   
4. 01:01:770 (1,2,1,2,1) - gradually increasing the volume and/or starting from a lower SV and increasing it gradually over the pattern could be pretty cool to emphasize the increasing volume/intensity of the drums, in addition to your increasing spacing.did the volume one.
   
   
5. 01:25:676 (2) - I think you can make a more interesting shape by adding bezier points between all your red points, except for the last part of the slider where it is parallel to the sliderbody of the slider before it that defeats the purpose of having straight sliders everywhere
   
   e.g.

   

wew

lmk if u have any questions, have fun mapping xd

Pyroflayer wrote:

01:23:958 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I think this might be a bit difficult considering the difficulty of the rest of the diff (and maybe a bit mean to the rank 100k+ players who are going to play this (actually I'm not sure what rank usually plays 4 stars anymore)) but yea testplays could be good. If you wanted to emphasize the ending and maybe make a bit harder you could try something else like circle-slider patterns idk I need more opinions on this, but for now unchanged.

Lily Bread wrote:

tiny mod from my queue.

[Insane]
00:31:770 (3) - there are five drum beats in music, so you can make it a 1/4 reverse slider to map them. I can hear the sounds, but they are too quite to notice, and such I don't think they are very strong. plus this matches the later one at 00:41:614 (1,2,3) -

[Advanced]
01:23:645 (2,1) - 00:43:645 (2,1) - hmm.. i can't find your structure of 1/4 gap, so would you mind to explain it? such as, when to make jump, when to make them touched. i want to learn your structure. (of course, you can choose not to explain lol) thanks in advance. Some sliders are really easy to abuse the leniency, so when I want to make sure there is emphasis on the next slider I do jump, when I want to make sure the player does both sliders is when its small like in the example ~also the ending is the most intense part so it has more jumps.

01:20:676 (1) - what about this rhythm? i can hear a triple in music. following synth/guitar.
http://puu.sh/sos56/517bc7a549.jpg

gl.

hlanden wrote:

Hello! Sorry for the delay!
Noob mod incoming!



[Lily's Normal]
00:13:333 (5) - A couple of pixels down. fixed kinda remapped that part
00:56:145 (2) - Fix that slider a tiny bit again. fixed


Amazing mapset really! Good luck on ranking this one

Yanganof wrote:

Heyo
m4m from queue.
It's a small mod as i couldn't find to much. Nice mapset.


Lily's Normal
Fix Artist Title and Source fixed
Maybe increase the star rating. The Gap between Normal and Light insane is quite high without the advanced diff. i made it 2.04 but i think pyro will add hard diff so it should be fine


I hope this helps.

Mod this one pls https://osu.ppy.sh/s/501361 (Vezoks Hard, if you feel like normal too)

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368,153,63958,6,0,P|368:111|350:73,1,80,4|8,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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Doormat wrote:

alright irc mod

16:24 Doormat: which diffs
16:25 Pyroflayer: I don't think insane needs mods
16:25 Pyroflayer: the others could use them proll
16:26 Doormat: no hard?
16:26 Pyroflayer: I'm waiting so see if someone will gd
16:27 Pyroflayer: otherwise I make it
16:27 Doormat: k
16:27 Doormat: 00:08:958 (1,1) - not enough recovery time for spinner
16:27 Pyroflayer: recovery time
16:27 Doormat: i'd just put a break
16:27 Doormat: recovery time is the time after the spinner
16:28 Doormat: for Easies it's recommended to have 3-4 beats
16:28 Pyroflayer: z
16:28 Pyroflayer: fk
16:28 Doormat: at a 190-bpm song
16:29 Pyroflayer: well everything you see is 1/2
16:29 Pyroflayer: in the intro
16:29 Pyroflayer: because there is a timing point half of 190
16:29 Doormat: even then
16:29 Pyroflayer: er
16:29 Doormat: recovery time is under 1000 ms
16:29 Pyroflayer: u know hwat I meen
16:29 Pyroflayer: yueah I put a break in
16:30 Doormat: 00:11:145 (1,1) - idk about stacking
16:31 Doormat: could make a triangle like 00:16:145 (4,1,2) -
16:31 Pyroflayer: idk what you meanm
16:31 Doormat: like why are they stacked
16:31 Pyroflayer: why not?
16:31 Doormat: something something "easy diff stacking is not good because distance-time thing"
16:31 Pyroflayer: I mean like, is it bad for them to be stacked
16:32 Doormat: i mean i don't really have a problem with stacking
16:32 Pyroflayer: hm
16:32 Doormat: but given the timing in between the notes beginners might not be particularly good at reading these types of stacks
16:32 Doormat: maybe if there was more time in between notes
16:32 Doormat: but at 1/1 it's debatable
16:32 Doormat: since it's 192 bpm
16:33 Pyroflayer: ok that's fine
16:33 Pyroflayer: I have a stack later in the map so I will change that too
16:33 Doormat: k
16:33 Doormat: 00:18:958 (1) - i'd shorten this to a 3/2 slider
16:33 Doormat: because guitar note at 00:19:426 - has more emphasis
16:34 Pyroflayer: done
16:35 Doormat: 01:06:145 (5,1) - just gonna point out this stack because 01:08:645 (5,1) - is essentially the same pattern but isn't stacked so there's a lack in consistency
16:35 Pyroflayer: yeah I'm changing that
16:36 Pyroflayer: lmao
16:36 Doormat: yeah that's about it
16:36 *Doormat is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121882 Iori Nomizu - Black + White (TV EDIT) [Light Insane]]
16:36 Doormat: not going through normal since that's a gd
16:36 Pyroflayer: cool
16:36 Pyroflayer: understood
16:36 Pyroflayer: its not half bad either so
16:36 Doormat: 00:08:645 (1) - wouldn't make it make more sense to end at 00:10:833 -
16:37 Doormat: cause that's where the woosh sound is
16:37 Doormat: or where the woosh sound ends*
16:37 Pyroflayer: yeah but I wanted more recovery time out of it LOL
16:37 Pyroflayer: not even kidding
16:37 Pyroflayer: should I change it forward more?
16:37 Doormat: 00:08:645 (1,1) - 1/2 96 bpm recovery time is fine for insane tbh
16:38 Pyroflayer: well either ways, there is no emphasis at the end of a spinner
16:38 Pyroflayer: I think it needs the recovery time anyways
16:39 Doormat: 00:16:458 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - nice copy paste lmao
16:39 Doormat: not ripping on you
16:39 Doormat: just found it funny
16:39 Doormat: makes sense though
16:39 Doormat: because literally same sounds in music
16:39 Pyroflayer: actually
16:39 Pyroflayer: never mind
16:39 Pyroflayer: I'm retarded
16:40 Pyroflayer: LOL
16:40 Pyroflayer: yeah
16:40 Pyroflayer: so for irc clarity I did change the spinner to what you said after testplaying it
16:40 Doormat: ahh ok
16:40 Doormat: anyways
16:40 Doormat: 00:14:895 (1) - i get the idea of the 1/1 repeat slider but i don't think it suits instruments all that well
16:40 Doormat: because guitar note at 00:15:364 - is skipped over
16:41 Doormat: why not try something like https://puu.sh/sshhr/2e285d22be.png
16:41 Pyroflayer: I'm following the drums and synth
16:41 Pyroflayer: so it would be weird to accomodate for that guitar sound, without mapping prior ones
16:42 Pyroflayer: I think the repeat is a fine mini break in tapping that covers the drum beats while emphasizing the held out synth
16:42 Doormat: yeah that's fine
16:42 Doormat: just a suggestion
16:43 Doormat: 00:32:708 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - idk how i feel about the use of the exact same patterning as the first half of the verse here
16:43 Doormat: since the synth starts coming into play around 00:32:708 - it feels a bit more intense
16:43 Doormat: so seeing the exact same rhythms being used is kind of boring
16:43 Doormat: but it works
16:43 Doormat: up to you
16:45 Doormat: does that make sense?
16:45 Pyroflayer: uh
16:45 Pyroflayer: I'm not hearing what you are
16:45 Doormat: like
16:45 Pyroflayer: I hear the same thing basically twice
16:45 Doormat: at 00:22:708 (1) - you notice how it's guitars drums and vocals right
16:46 Doormat: 00:32:708 (1) - at this point onwards there's also an added synth in the background noise here
16:46 Pyroflayer: ...
16:46 Pyroflayer: there is synth in both l
16:46 Doormat: no like
16:46 Pyroflayer: OH
16:46 Pyroflayer: there is another guitar
16:46 Pyroflayer: I hear it not
16:46 Pyroflayer: now*
16:46 Doormat: it's more noticeable with 00:23:958 (1,2,3) - vs00:36:458 (1,2,3,4) -
16:46 Doormat: yeah
16:46 Doormat: mb
16:46 Doormat: it's an electric guitar
16:46 Pyroflayer: tbh
16:46 Doormat: mistook it for synth lmao
16:47 Pyroflayer: ye
16:47 Pyroflayer: lol
16:47 Pyroflayer: tbh its really quiet and hard to notice for me
16:47 Doormat: still
16:47 Pyroflayer: like, the "intensity" it brings is not a whole lot
16:47 Pyroflayer: I'm not sure how I would adjust
16:47 Doormat: the music is slightly different though so i think bringing in some rhythm change would make the map a bit more exciting
16:48 Doormat: just as something you could try this is the rhythm i used at 00:33:958 (1) - https://puu.sh/sshKk/289a6891d5.png
16:49 Doormat: just play around with it i guess
16:49 Pyroflayer: yeah idk
16:49 *Pyroflayer does brb move with bathroom
16:49 Doormat: all opinions tbh
16:49 Doormat: whether you apply them or not is up to you
16:49 Doormat: anyways moving on
16:50 Doormat: 00:57:708 (1) - more spacing here to emphasize the finish would be nice
16:50 Doormat: 01:00:208 (1) - same here
16:54 Pyroflayer: spacing into it?
16:54 Doormat: increase distance snap between the two notes
16:54 Pyroflayer: the one highlight and the one before it
16:55 Doormat: yeah
16:55 Pyroflayer: ok I'll do that
16:56 Doormat: 01:05:833 (3,1) - 01:08:333 (3,4) - 01:15:833 (3,1) - nc inconsistency
16:56 Doormat: i think having it as (3,4) works best actually
16:56 Pyroflayer: but "one two three"
16:57 Pyroflayer: is good meme
16:57 Pyroflayer: idk how to do the meme correctly
16:57 Doormat: it'll still be 1,2,3
16:57 Doormat: -_
16:57 Pyroflayer: yeah
16:57 Pyroflayer: just nm me I'm retarded
16:57 Doormat: lol
16:57 Pyroflayer: I changed to 3,4
16:58 Doormat: 01:25:676 (2) - shouldn't this be 1/1 slider like Easy
16:59 Pyroflayer: its only 1/1 in easy because I was told to not have any 1/2
16:59 Doormat: lmao no
16:59 Doormat: 1/2 is okay in Easy as long as it's not overdone like crazy
16:59 Doormat: change the easy to 1/2
16:59 Pyroflayer: kk
16:59 Doormat: case in point:
16:59 *Doormat is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1028441 fourfolium - Now Loading!!!! [Easy]]
17:00 Doormat: 00:21:355 (2) -
17:00 Pyroflayer: yeah
17:00 Pyroflayer: I see
17:00 Doormat: if it makes sense with the music i don't see why you shouldn't use 1/2
17:00 Pyroflayer: g
17:00 Doormat: k gonna take a look at the insane in case
17:01 Pyroflayer: yeah
17:01 Pyroflayer: I would have asked
17:01 Doormat: 00:00:208 (1) - feels kind of short
17:01 Doormat: mainly cause everything else follows the vocals and then this one is like half the vocals
17:01 Pyroflayer: 00:01:458 (2) -
17:02 Doormat: yeah i get that you want it to be clickable
17:02 Pyroflayer: the clicking follows vocals
17:02 Doormat: so why not make 00:00:208 (1) - an extended slider
17:02 Pyroflayer: I don't like extended sliders
17:02 Doormat: ahh ok fair enough
17:02 Pyroflayer: same with 00:05:208 (1,2,3) -
17:02 Doormat: 00:08:489 (1) - ajajaja spinner end
17:02 Pyroflayer: yup
17:03 Doormat: 00:22:864 (2,3) - are you the devil lmao
17:03 Pyroflayer: oh yeah
17:03 Doormat: nothing wrong with it design wise, but it just plays awkwardly
17:03 Pyroflayer: me: let me make this angle shit fucked up
17:03 Pyroflayer: glad u noticed
17:04 Doormat: also i noticed that Light Insane isn't hitsounded
17:04 Pyroflayer: yeah I just noticed that too
17:04 Pyroflayer: I can fix that lmao
17:04 Doormat: kk
17:04 Doormat: 00:27:864 (2,3) - yeah same here
17:04 Doormat: (talking about insane again)
17:04 Doormat: 00:32:864 (2,3) - yeah last one i'm gonna mention
17:05 Doormat: 00:51:145 (1) - could make this slider more symmetrical
17:05 Pyroflayer: ?
17:05 Pyroflayer: oh yeha
17:05 Pyroflayer: I know how it plays
17:05 Doormat: ya
17:05 Pyroflayer: ok
17:05 Doormat: 00:57:708 (1) - intentionally a short slider?
17:06 Doormat: vocals are held so a 1/1 slider could work too
17:06 Pyroflayer: yes
17:06 Doormat: consider stacking 00:58:176 (2) - to the slider end then
17:06 Doormat: because people might mistake the snap here as 1/2
17:07 Pyroflayer: idc if people misread
17:07 Pyroflayer: I think the motion
17:07 Pyroflayer: helps emphasis what is not held out
17:07 Pyroflayer: without being too much
17:07 Pyroflayer: what is not held via click
17:07 Pyroflayer: but what is held via vocal
17:07 Pyroflayer: idk if you know what I mean
17:08 Doormat: not really lol
17:08 Pyroflayer: the slight amount of motion is to emphasis the vocals
17:08 Pyroflayer: since there isn't a held out slider to do that
17:08 Doormat: but the vocals are held up to the white tick
17:08 Pyroflayer: its insane diff people should be able to read it
17:08 Doormat: so having it as a 1/2 slider makes it feel cut off
17:08 Pyroflayer: its not that hard of pattern to read
17:08 Doormat: eh you do you man
17:09 Pyroflayer: yeah but it makes the drums more emphasized
17:09 Pyroflayer: its weird
17:09 Doormat: 01:06:145 (1) - 01:08:645 (4) - 01:16:145 (4) - nice nc consistency
17:09 Doormat: nc at 01:06:145 (1) - isn't needed
17:10 Pyroflayer: f u cc
17:10 Pyroflayer: fixed
17:10 Doormat: 01:20:676 (2,3) - i'd ctrl + g this so that the repeat slider is on 01:20:833 -
17:10 Doormat: right now the repeat slider has the repeat on 01:20:833 - which is pretty emphasized due to vocal
17:10 Doormat: so imo it should be clickable
17:11 Doormat: and last suggestion
17:12 Doormat: 01:23:645 (3) - i'd consider making this move in the opposite direction of 01:23:489 (2) - to give more emphasis to the guitar whammy
17:12 Pyroflayer: I could rework the rhythm there
17:12 Pyroflayer: not with ctrl g
17:12 Doormat: something like https://puu.sh/ssjgC/d58b4b3a27.png
17:12 Doormat: oh i don't mean like actually ctrl + g
17:12 Doormat: i just mean ctrl + g the rhythm
17:12 Doormat: not the pattern
17:13 Doormat: sorry should've been more specific
17:13 Pyroflayer: yeah
17:13 Pyroflayer: I know
17:13 Pyroflayer: I mean still
17:13 Pyroflayer: I don't like that rhythm
17:13 Doormat: ahh ok
17:13 Pyroflayer: uh
17:14 Pyroflayer: 01:23:645 (3) - this has emphasis from open angle
17:14 Pyroflayer: like most of the map has in it
17:14 Doormat: yeah ok fair enough
17:14 Doormat: that's about it then

Bubblun wrote:

Requested I mod this.

General
aiMod is complaining about metadata issues. Please make sure all the diffs have the same metadata. aimod isn't telling me anything on all diffs, maybe re download?

Easy
00:32:395 (5,1) - Considering how strong 1 is, I suggest bringing it to the right a bit so the player is snapping to it. The sharpness of the jumps emphasize the strength of the beat in my opinion. There is already somewhat of an angle, and since the player is tapping 1/1 "a lot" already it is still a strong object more opinions welcome
01:25:676 (3) - The spacing is a little confusing in my opinion. I suggest moving it back to the white tick. I ds'd it so its fine, and there isn't a sound on the white tick

Insane
00:42:551 (7) - For such a strong note, I don't think the angle the player is coming in fits the song. You could overlap 1 of the next combo with it. Although it creates a square, I think the clockwise flow established makes it easier. I disagree, the open angle makes stronger emphasis on the 7
01:21:145 (6,7) - I suggest ctrl+g because the song here is giving you a lot of justification to make a large jump. Plus the sharpness of it would play good.
no because open angle is strong for emphasis and I was increases spacing progressively since its getting more intense as the phrase progresses.

Bubblun wrote:

Requested I mod this.


Normal
00:31:458 (2) - I don't hear anything being held here. Plus it seems a bit inconsistent to me. I suggest mapping it with a circle, 1/2 slider, 1/2 slider starting 00:31:770 - here. first usay udont hear anything and the u suggest mapping it well i think the 1/1 hitcircles work fine since its normal diff and its simple for it
01:11:458 (1) - Why the NC? In my opinion it doesn't make sense and it pops out when it shouldn't. i am just consistent with nc i nc every 2 downbeats
01:12:551 (2,3,4) - All 3 are very strong notes, so I think sharp movements / snappy movements compliment the song. this current movements is fine imo

1. Isnt the Artist supposed to be "野水伊織" and romanised artist be "Nomizu Iori" Instead? idk myself just telling u what i see in the ranked map of this song https://osu.ppy.sh/b/214394
2. ok in every diff u have a green timing point and a red timing point at 00:11:458 - but with different volume and thats unrankable xd so make them same vol

1. 00:11:458 (2) - NC

1. Cs 4 is a bit too much for normal tbh , mayb do 3.5
2. 01:21:458 - Add circle and start spinner 1/2 after to emphasize song properly , u dont have to worry about the spinners length, it will be fine

1. overall its ok but the SV/DS setting is kinda awkward cuz the movement b/w sliders is more than twice as slow as movement b/w object but i guess u r fine with it

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

hi
[General]

1. Isnt the Artist supposed to be "野水伊織" and romanised artist be "Nomizu Iori" Instead? idk myself just telling u what i see in the ranked map of this song https://osu.ppy.sh/b/214394 I actually got my information from a different ranked set https://osu.ppy.sh/s/419409 so I'm going to ask kwan
2. ok in every diff u have a green timing point and a red timing point at 00:11:458 - but with different volume and thats unrankable xd so make them same vol I fixed on all diffs

[Light Insane]

1. 00:11:458 (2) - NC Easy didn't have the NC either so I changed Insane to match both

[Easy]

1. overall its ok but the SV/DS setting is kinda awkward cuz the movement b/w sliders is more than twice as slow as movement b/w object but i guess u r fine with it zz

i m suck at modding rn
good luckty

UndeadCapulet wrote:

At your req, can't wait for Hard bc bn score:


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Lily's Normal

I'm not really sure what to think of this difficulty. cs4 Normals have fallen out of favor since we want to teach Normal-level players more about 1/2 rhythming stuff and how to play angles than we want them to precisely aim. All of your objects are very widely spaced since you use 1.4x ds, which can be awkward for Normal players since they aren't used to aiming yet. Your base sv is .8 which is very low, so your sliders end up really scrunched up (the 1/2 sliders barely have visible sliderbodies). I want to just suggest that you remap it, using larger circles, higher sv, and lower spacing, but maybe I'm just too used to the more commonly seen Normal styles that work like that. So for now I'll just say get more opinions on this difficulty, and be careful about spread balance when the Hard gets added. the reason why i used ds 1.4 is because easy used it so i didnt want use lower that will be wierd for the spread and ill lower it when easy does also ill fix the cs to 3.5 this doesnt need remapping and the sv choice is the creator choice he uses what he want i just used the number that fits to his spread also a normal with 196 bpm is not like normal with 80 bpm beside ds and cs choice everything else should be fine

Good luck with your future mapping! you too

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UndeadCapulet wrote:

At your req, can't wait for Hard bc bn score:
[notice]

General

I think you should break up your kiai some, like turn it off at 01:22:708 (1) - and then back on at 01:23:645 (3) - or 01:23:958 (1) - . Think about your fountain effects :3 yee

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Insane

1. 01:12:239 (6,7,8) - Don't really get what you're trying to do with this triple placement, the drums are really weak here but you have a pretty strong angle from 5. I think you should just stack near the tail or something. Well, maybe not stacking, but something to make it not so strongly emphasized. its not weaker but there is different sound, the lower pitched drums
   
2. 01:18:333 (3,4) - This probably works better as 4 circles since you tend to do that to lead into new vocal lines. I did a 2 cicrle thing

With some more polish this difficulty will end up very fitting to the song, it's great to see how much you have improved :> ty xd

Kujinn wrote:

From #modreqs

[Insane]

00:00:208 (1,2,4,1,2,3) - 1/1 spacing needs to be larger. Like you've done here 00:01:458 (2,1) - disagreed, this is calm section so I use regularly low spacing, until that new phrase and introduction of somewhat more intense rhythms.
00:11:770 (2,4,6,8) - They're not properly stacked, copy and pasting without checking can do this. Also, at every 3, move a little upwards, its kind of boring when its too still. they are manually stacked, i did this for more visual affect
00:14:426 (3,4) - Spacing is huge, can you shorten it?spacing is large because there is a huge gap in time from when the play last clicked and I'm taking into account slider leniency from 3. Also there is a loudish sound there so increase in spacing is warranted.
00:19:583 (6,7,8,1) - They are too close together, 00:19:895 (1) - loses emphasis this way. while this may be true in a technical sense, the 1 still gets emphasis from other sources, such as the triple right before it, it being NC'd, it being a down beat, and the sharper angles i used for that phrase.
00:22:083 (1,2) - huge spacingidk if you want me to make it bigger or you actually think its too big. its appropriate for what it is
00:22:708 (1,2,3,4) - that pattern is way too confusing. But I guess since you've used it a lot, its not a big deal.how is it confusing?
00:46:458 (1,2,3,4) - even out the spacing, looks really off.this was intentional, 2 is loud snare hit so jump to it. then 3 is following background synth beats so its small jump, and then 4 brings back vocals so large jump for that.
01:25:676 (2) - Single note or 1/1 slider would do better. disagreed. I don't want to force the player to hold on for too long, but I don't want them to just click. so good inbetween is 1/2 slider.

I recommend looking at other insane maps for reference cause this diff needs a lot of work. depends on how u define work

[Light Insane]

00:32:551 (7,1) - Shorten spacing?new phrase and easy angle make this appropriate.
00:59:270 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Make spacing even 4 is for jump because loud drum hit.1 is for jump because of cymbals.
01:14:895 (4,1) - That jump is huge, you should shorten a little. I reworked the area around it to make the spacing similar to the previous similar phrase.

This diff is pretty good ^^ ty xd

Good Luck! If your still needing an extra diff PM me

1. Please dont COPY: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/908542
2. You can change the BG
3. Also change the Colors. its a similar to a another map again

1. 00:35:208 (1,4,5) - make this a distance circle (i mean the looks)
2. 00:45:989 (4) - is 4 really necessary? stack it
3. 00:57:708 (1,2) - too close. Do it like 00:59:583 (3,4) - this
4. 01:07:708 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetrical
5. 01:05:208 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetrical
6. :12:551 (1,2,3) - this is perfect symmetrical
   
7. All I wanna say, is HAVING A STRAIGHT SLIDER

1. 00:25:364 (2,3,4) - is it kinda big jump for light insane?
2. 00:42:708 (1) - try doing 1 to 2 cuz its good for putting slider into "smiley slider" to make empasis and good pattern unlike this 00:44:426 (2,3) - pattern, was good

1. hi lily my waifu i like ur mapping now ^^ good work!

1. 00:32:708 (1,2) - I would like this 2 circle onto slider, its hard if youre beginner
2. WOW I like ur mapping in the easy diff+. It fits very well

Pyroflayer wrote:

zeroallies wrote:

hey i can gd right?
EXTRA

I will probably look at ur map, but no guarantees on me adding it to the set

zeroallies wrote:

hey i can gd right?
EXTRA

Zallies wrote:

m4m

[General]

1. Please dont COPY: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/908542
2. You can change the BG
3. Also change the Colors. its a similar to a another map again its not like the mapper made the background or invented the combo colors. I can pick the same as well.

[Insane]

1. 00:35:208 (1,4,5) - make this a distance circle (i mean the looks) I can't tell what you want.
2. 00:45:989 (4) - is 4 really necessary? stack it it is manually stacked. like most things in this map
3. 00:57:708 (1,2) - too close. Do it like 00:59:583 (3,4) - this its close enough to be readable as is.
4. 01:07:708 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetrical this is symmetrical ?
5. 01:05:208 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetrical I saw the "problem" and hopefully its fixed.
6. :12:551 (1,2,3) - this is perfect symmetrical ??
   
7. All I wanna say, is HAVING A STRAIGHT SLIDER unlucky

[Light]

1. 00:25:364 (2,3,4) - is it kinda big jump for light insane?it accounts for slider leniency which is use in prior patterns.
2. 00:42:708 (1) - try doing 1 to 2 cuz its good for putting slider into "smiley slider" to make empasis and good pattern unlike this 00:44:426 (2,3) - pattern, was good ?!?!?!?!

practically, you didnt add jumps on light insane LOL ok?

[Easy]

1. 00:32:708 (1,2) - I would like this 2 circle onto slider, its hard if youre beginner there are many instances of several clicks in a row.
2. WOW I like ur mapping in the easy diff+. It fits very well ty

Light & Insane needs some quality mapping
but keep mapping ?

b-b-but you did see my map.. w-we M4M right? ya I did ur mod, and what I said holds.

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Hey, M4M
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472194 <- My map
It's pretty long song, mod as many diffs as you want

[General]

1. I really think you should start the second kiai here 01:23:958 starting it at 4th beat don't really make sense imo. And it kinda ruin the emphasize for big white tick. ok I will apply to all diffs.
2. Why you need to add those characters to the tags tho? I think it's unnecessary, just remove it. Keep Kuro Usagi because background if you want.
3. Isn't it "sou desu yo" not "soudesuyo" ? But well, what do I know... I jacked tags from most recent ranked set for this song.

[Easy]

1. 00:05:208 (1,2) - Maybe you can try to merge this to long 2/1 slider to lessen the number of notes at the silent part? http://puu.sh/sOZ2O/5e69de1ea8.jpg Considering the Normal did this, it's weird when Easy have more notes than Normal. ok
2. 00:12:708 (3) - Okay, this don't actually fit anything... I know you're trying to make symmetrical pattern or something, but try to pay more attention to the rhythm. I don't know what you want to follow but from the previous note, I'm assuming you following those big sound. Maybe try something like this http://puu.sh/sOZgr/b729cd49d9.jpg yeah, it's not good for polarity but fit much better. It can be fixed with proper spacing tho so don't worry. im following the synth and how its rhythm structure repeats by symmetry
3. 00:13:958 (1,2) - Here don't really fit either. It's like you're trying to follow the guitar but fail miserably (sorry for the mean word). Use this rhythm 00:11:458 (2) - or something similar. Well, at least your current rhythm fit the clap well.it follows the rhythm as closely as it can with out breaking rules of easy diff
4. 00:17:708 (2) - ^ similar stuff. Since you mapped the entire thing this way, I think you won't change... But I still warn you that it DOESN'T fit.same response as prior
5. 00:22:708 (1,2,3) - Okay, I think you're following vocal, but you might try this http://puu.sh/sOZxz/8feb298cb2.jpg it would cover the big drum sound perfectly and I think it fit better tho because the drum seems bigger than vocal. But if you insist on following vocal, maybe you can merge these 00:23:020 (2,3) - into 1/1 reverse slider to merge the vocal note. Same suggestion for the rest, if you decided to change one, better change them all. the reason there are two circles is because the drum beats there are really strong, since afterwards they are less strong I use the sliders to follow the vocals/extended notes. and try to make sure they cover the drum beats that exists (seen with slider 4 there are bumps when you hear drum)
6. 01:12:239 (2,3) - ctrl+g these, it would emphasize the big sounds better.that would ignore the strong beat that the circle is currently covering. Plus I disagree either ways.
7. 01:25:676 (3) - I don't really see the purpose of using 1/2 slider. First, you never used it before so it might be seems a little inconsistent (?) second, I don't think it's necessary... Either just use circle or extend the slider so it end here 01:26:145 -, where the sounds end. This way it seems very hanging.its consistent with the higher diffs. plus I don't use 1/2 sliders in easy because the purpose of easy is to be easy, which is defined to where you shouldn't use 1/2 rhythms, but the way I did this makes it acceptable.
8. The rest are fine I guess

[Light Insane]

1. 00:39:426 (2) - I prefer this kind of symmetry http://puu.sh/sP19O/0a150e64ad.jpg the issue with that is that I might as well change the slider shape if I was going to try and create that kind of movement. basically the movement won't benefit from having that slider shape.
2. 01:01:614 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks imperfect, lol, use ctrl+shift+D option shape is fine.
3. 01:20:208 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not a right place to use repeating pattern imo because the rhythm here 01:20:833 changes. But well, it still fit in a way, you can keep it. guitar
4. Nice diff ( ´ ▽ ` )b

[Insane]

1. 00:03:333 (4) - Maybe you can adjust the shape so the slider tick would land on the red anchor and therefore be emphasized. no need to emphasize because no sound to back it up.
2. 00:11:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Okay, this is good, just some suggestion. Tbh, the circles are kinda bugging me. Because they went back and forth while the slider don't move. Here's some way to fix this. First, perfectly stack all circles, it makes more sense because you don't move your sliders. Second, move your sliders, there's plenty way. First, move them gradually going down http://puu.sh/sP1y6/4b493229b6.jpg Second, increase the gap gradually, better keep the circles place for this one http://puu.sh/sP1Bq/d67f8ee3bd.jpg (look at the combo number). Third, gradually spinning http://puu.sh/sP1Ek/19fdd5968e.jpg keep their head the same place but spin them a bit, like 30°. But this is a total suggestion, feel free to ignore. This suggestion apply for the next repeating pattern.circles move based on which slider was before.
3. 00:35:208 (1,2,3,4) - I get your point but somehow I think this kind of pattern only works well if there's a little gap in rhythm between 00:35:364 (2,3) - but well, you don't have to change tho. I use this so much all for the same reason- spacing based on strong beat.
4. 00:57:708 (1,2) - I think just stack them... This way, they look like 1/2 pattern. (I know you won't change this) they play like a stack with giving a little room for adjusting from movement after 1,
5. 01:00:988 (4,5) - Uhmm, maybe space them a little more to emphasize (5) better because it's following the same sound as 01:00:676 (3) - but emphasized less. You can make a repeating pattern here 01:00:208 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/sP2nP/5415f75f34.jpg Maybe something like that.it gets emphasis from its direction and spacing change
6. 01:14:270 (2,3) - Aren't they a little too close? It would make an uncomfortable anti jump and is hard to hit. Better move them further. At least like this 01:06:770 (2,3) - 1,2 is spaced less so this matches it
7. 01:20:208 (1,2,3) - ^ maybe make it the same as 01:19:270 (2,3,4) - decreased for buildup
8. Y

That's all.
Rhythm already good, just need some polishing in pattern and placing~
Good luck (*•̀ᴗ•́*)و

ediiiittttt
Insane stuff
Here 01:05:208 (1,2,3) - , make a triangle shape with the heads. You can make better looking symmetry that way. Current : http://puu.sh/sP2Jn/4a84acc45a.jpg vs How it should be : http://puu.sh/sP2ME/23b314a600.jpg Alright I did it this time for sure h o y l

cya

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Hey, M4M
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472194 <- My map
It's pretty long song, mod as many diffs as you want

Red : unrankable (or might be unrankable) issue
Blue : highly suggested to fix
Black : normal suggestion
Green : random comment
Bold : slightly more important than others

[General]

SPOILER

1. I really think you should start the second kiai here 01:23:958 starting it at 4th beat don't really make sense imo. And it kinda ruin the emphasize for big white tick.
2. Why you need to add those characters to the tags tho? I think it's unnecessary, just remove it. Keep Kuro Usagi because background if you want.
3. Isn't it "sou desu yo" not "soudesuyo" ? But well, what do I know...

[Lily's Normal]

SPOILER

1. Is CS 4 is normal for Normal now? yes?
2. 00:03:020 (4) - Umm, since there's still piano and vocal sound here 00:03:333 I think it's much better to move this slider 1/2 beat later and add an extra circle at its current position http://puu.sh/sOZYG/9237b766f6.jpg If you think it's too much circle, you can merge some of them into 1/2 slider. Anyway, I think this way makes more sense. And btw, either you apply this or not, I think you better extend this slider to 00:04:583 because it feels very empty currently. its not empty it follow up the vocals and piano imo its fine thats just faded soundEnding the slider here 00:03:958 before the vocal actually ends don't really make sense either.
3. 00:05:208 (6) - If you do apply both mod above ^, the slider would be the same length as this slider so maybe you can make them parallel. And I think you better NC here. fixed nc
4. 00:09:114 (1) - Actually the "seed" of the sound started here 00:08:958 but I have feeling that you won't change. fixed
5. 00:45:208 (1) - Maybe you could follow vocal here too with 3/2 slider because you did with the next vocal sound. Pretty weird if you left out one vocal. its normal its simplified so it should be fine also there is no big change in the sallybal
6. 00:22:708 Maybe you can start a 1/2 slider here too. It won't disturb the spinner gap. okay fixed
7. 00:57:708 (1,1) - Maybe use pattern like this 00:13:958 (1,2,3) - again considering these two sounds are distinctably bigger than the other sounds. but the music getting less intens there so less objects is better
8. 00:59:583 (2) - Well, I think it'll flow better if this is curved the other way http://puu.sh/sP0DQ/ec490d2f6e.jpg agree fixed
9. 01:01:458 (1) - Why ending this at blue tick. There's no sound there. You can follow two sound, where the sound of the drum stops here 01:02:551 or where the next sound start here 01:02:708 -, you can choose either but NOT on blue tick. Play on 25% playback rate, I'm certain on this one. okay fixed on dowbeat
10. 01:16:458 (1,2,3) - Somehow the different visual distance between them bugs me http://puu.sh/sP0SI/1e685c3df2.jpg You can try this http://puu.sh/sP0Vc/635babe5ff.jpg but the flow is not really... So maybe this http://puu.sh/sP0Y5/cbf3cec7e3.jpg need some remake for next pattern tho fixed but it won't be much because it's almost spinner. But well, you don't really have to think on small stuff like this.
11. 01:16:458 (1,2) - Btw, these don't really fit tbh. Maybe try something like this http://puu.sh/sP12n/96422a7957.jpg to fit vocal and drum better. i think they fit fine

cya

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Lilyanna wrote:

Update

Mir wrote:

Referred to this map by Halfslashed.

Free mod incoming!~

HazuWaga's Hard

[ Hard]

1. 01:16:926 (4) - Shouldn't a big deal but 01:17:395 is a vocal sound that is being skipped by this slider. if it's not a big deal I'm not gonna do it, and I personally really like the 1/2 reverse pattern there

I like this difficulty. The rest seems fine.

Seems good. Good luck.~

Mir wrote:

Referred to this map by Halfslashed.

Free mod incoming!~

Lily's Normal

[ Normal]

1. 00:03:020 (4) - Why does this slider skip the vocal on 00:03:333 - if you're intending to follow it? Fixedd
2. 00:45:208 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is for some reason different from 00:47:708 (1,2,3), is there a reason for this? It's inconsistent, and the sounds are the same. Same for 00:55:208 (1,2,3) - its consistent because i variate in a way its accaptable i did one way different and two ways same and then started same here 00:55:208 (1,2,3) - i think it should be fine x)

The rest seems fine.

Seems good. Good luck.~

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Mir wrote:

Referred to this map by Halfslashed.

Free mod incoming!~ BOXES ARE MY TRIGGER HOYL FUCK

[General]

1. Any reason Light Insane is CS 3.9? Hard is CS 4 so I think Light Insane should also be CS 4 since I don't really see a reason or gimmick to justify a lower CS.Maybe because there is gd, i am not changing cs for something trivial like this.

Easy

1. 00:32:083 (4,5) - This could be a slider to give more emphasis on the strong drums on 00:32:708 (1,2) - by switching from slider to circle. they are circles because they are strong too.
2. 00:48:958 (2,3) - Make these the same slider? no
3. 01:05:833 (4,5) - Could also be one slider for that "1, 2, 3" tapping as well. Applies for other instances as well such as 01:08:333 (4,5). 1,2,3 tapping exists, and there is tapping after it, no problem
4. 01:12:239 (2) - Really strong sound on a slider end here. I would recommend https://mir.s-ul.eu/uVfuEUGD this rhythm. It would reduce density yes, but there isn't much there but background noise, and since your easy and normal are quite close in SR you could use a bit less density in your Easy.you are suggesting based on assuming there is lack of emphasis needed for the head of the slider, and the ends of sliders cannot emphasize, which is where we have a difference in opinions in both regards.
5. 01:20:208 (3) - Really strong sound on this end too. I would recommend a slider. https://mir.s-ul.eu/RaPXJLVC or some similar rhythm would probably represent the stronger sounds here a bit better.as mentioned prior no change

[ Insane]

• 
  
  
  ^ This diff in a nutshell. It's consistent in that regard, though.

1. 00:20:989 (2,3,4) - What are these emphasizing? These are the same sounds as 00:21:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - so it would make more sense to have the whole thing be one stream into a reverse rather than kicksliders here imo.there is no wrong emphasis since they are close enough in proximity to play with ease and they warm up the player for the stream after long slider.
2. 00:33:176 (4,5) - This has less slightly less spacing than everywhere else you use this pattern.even if this mattered, this is the more linear of the angles used with the 1,2,3,4 jump sequence I've spammed throughout
3. 01:16:145 (4) - Wrong sampleset, use the normal snare like you have been. actually auto
4. 01:18:645 (4) - Uhhh... change sampleset for this clap too? no
5. 01:20:520 (3) - Snare should be on the head, not the tail. the tail has snare on it and hitsound does a good lead in to follow intensity and follow song.
6. 01:23:645 (3) - Clap here? did whistle instead.
7. 01:24:114 (2,3) and 01:24:582 (2,3,2,3) - are inconsistent with hitsounding. Use snare or drum. I changed with the drum the song uses.(unchanged)

Seems good. Good luck.~

1. remove under line http://puu.sh/thTq2/440fad112c.png
2. 00:47:083 (4,5,1) - make triangle to heads
3. 00:48:645 (5) - x:344 y:160
4. lol interesting parttern

1. 00:21:770 (2) - add NC instead 00:21:458 (1) - here. You do not have to fit downbeat.

1. 00:32:083 (4,5,1,2) - I think it would be better to add one slider in lowest diff