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ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-11-13T09:35:06+00:00

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ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-11-17T11:07:28+00:00

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Bye4Now's Alternative Hard

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64,192,208207,128,0,208507:0:0:0:0:
320,192,208507,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,208507,128,0,208807:0:0:0:0:
64,192,208807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,208807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,208957,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,208957,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,209107,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,209107,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,209257,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,209257,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,209407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,209407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,209557,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,209557,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,209707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,209707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,209857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,209857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,210007,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,210007,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,210007,1,0,0:0:0:0:

feel free to change my diff's name, im terrible with naming stuffs anyways lol

box o' words

Riuno suggested I should make another diff that focuses more on rice pattern,
so I did whatever I could to this difficulty to make sure the gap between abra's, rave's and my diff isn't too far off.

I kinda have a hard time trying to make chart to satisfying the >good "linear" difficulty spread when
, in SR wise, when the NM and INS diff has a SR difference of 2.34 SR
, in pattern wise, pretty self-explanatory in the when looked at in editor
but i tried my best to work with what I was given and made this diff, hopefully it helped the spread issue

Maybe I should've just layered simple 1/4 for the kiai part (lol). However what I've made is fine too imo.

error_exe777

720 posts

Joined February 2016

error_exe777 2017-11-21T21:30:45+00:00

cba to mod it all ill do the new diff

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00:06:457 (6457|0,6532|2,6607|0) - why do these trill? before it they havent and i dont think this is for a different sound

00:06:907 (6907|1,7057|1) - now you're representing a different sound with the same pattern as before eg 00:03:307 (3307|2,3457|2) - . this whole section could be done better with some more overlapping

00:02:407 (2407|0,2707|0) - now that i look this confuses me alot. you skip a hat sound on the 1/4th and representing kicks with LNs, with a 1/4th gap between them for me is really, really odd. i wouldnt over complicate things with this instance because there are more intuitive and simpler ways around it. a simple jumpstream would work fine

00:37:807 (37807|2,37882|1) - i think you should make the single note an LN and make the LN a single note. i dont see why the note is pressed after you press the LN. real odd to me

00:39:907 (39907|3,40057|3) - this is out of place compared to the rest of the section and tbh i cant hear any extra sound or anything that suggests this. i may be wrong tho

00:50:407 (50407|0,50557|0,50707|0) - 00:51:757 (51757|3,51907|3,52057|3) - 00:40:807 (40807|0,41107|0) - 00:41:257 (41257|3,41557|3) - i understand your intention behind the shields in this section but they play really bad honestly. kinda fucks up the feel and flow of the section where there rest of the map is pretty fluid this is here and is like "im out of place love me" which imo doesnt work as well as it looks in the editor. but this is subjective.

01:06:607 - there is no real try to represent the kicks here

01:37:507 (97507|0,97507|2,97657|0,97657|2) - these shouldnt jack since you havent for the rest of the section

02:15:907 (135907|3,135982|2,136057|1,136132|0) - now this is overmapping and for a hard difficulty i think its really out of place. keep to what the old diff did

right, im pretty eh with this map. like, the way you did the stream patterns are bloody awesome, but you've used it for every stream which doesnt give much variation within the level. like a stream like 02:07:807 - is wayy different to 02:21:607 - which is really annoying and im not a fan of it.

my next point is slightly subjective, but i feel representing kicks with LNs doesnt work with a map like this. there are enough to call this an LN diff and the rest of the spread definitely is not. like, 01:14:407 - i feel would work better with notes for instance but by looking at the rest of the map and your old diff its pretty evident you like your LNs lmao.

i really like your style but its just not really something i can't embrace due to the nature of this spread and song. if this whole set were LNs this would be great butttt its not so eh. not to mention the density is very crooked throughout. if you look at the bar chart on the left hand side of the screen, to me its really inconsistent between section. but whatever, no big deal tbh.

this diff is not my cup of tea so i sincerely apologise about me acting rude. its your map and my opinion so dont change anything just to make me happy. if you can justify your choices then go straight ahead. like i said i like the style.

good luck

i was wayyyyyyy too rude in that im so sorry

gl with the mapset

error_exe777

720 posts

Joined February 2016

error_exe777 2017-11-21T22:23:47+00:00

abraxos i would like to have a friendly discussion about your diff. got some concerns i'd like to run through

s

00:02:407 - honestly this could be represented better by jacking 00:02:407 (2407|0,2557|3) - and 00:02:707 (2707|3,2857|0) - since 00:02:557 (2557|3,2707|3) - these arent the same sound

00:03:007 (3007|0,3082|3,3157|0,3232|3,3307|1,3382|0,3457|1,3532|0) - alot of these jacks in this section, for me, are really awkward to play. i understand this is subjective and its close to rank lalala but thought id mention it. there is no real fix but shush

00:03:607 (3607|2,3757|1,3907|1,4057|2,4207|2,4282|1,4357|2,4432|1) - same suggestion with the jacks above but having all of these in the middle columns is very odd and really weird to play imo. like just some variation would help the flow some more since having 3 beats worth of notes in two columns is very limiting

00:05:332 (5332|1,5407|3,5482|1,5557|3) - i dont recommend trilling these since the others above do not, unless you have a reason for it

00:08:557 (8557|0,8707|0) - i dont see any reason for this since there is no kick sound and the snare hat thing has never jacked before and after this point

00:18:457 (18457|2,18607|3,18682|2,18757|3,18832|2) - shouldnt these be swapped? since 00:18:007 (18007|1,18157|3,18307|1,18457|2) - this 1/2 trill isnt consistent with 00:16:807 (16807|0,16957|2,17107|0,17257|2) - and there is no different sound

00:26:332 (26332|0,26407|3,26557|0,26707|3,26857|0,27007|3) - this is fine i guess but maybe other columns would be better to avoid the extented 6 note trill

00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|3,27757|0,27832|3) - i recommend making these LNs to show you're representing a different sound from the entire section under it

00:27:907 (27907|1,27907|2) - dont see why this is a triple at all. there is no extra hat or kick from what i can here

00:28:807 (28807|0,29107|0,29407|0,29707|0,30007|0,30307|0,30607|0,30907|0,31207|0,31507|0,31807|0,32107|0,32407|0,32707|0,33007|0,33307|0) - stacks smh. ive got no problem with this but maybe shifting the stack to column 4 halfway through would be cool

00:37:207 (37207|0,37357|0,37507|0,37657|0,37807|0) - ahhh not a fan of this lmao. really unintuitive to play and after the 1/4th bursts behind it its not a very nice transition to kiai and i would recommend something less jack-y

00:38:332 (38332|2) - please explain to me what this is lmaooo

00:38:407 - ah here is my main concern. take this with a bit of salt lol. basically i disagree with the way you've mapped this. im not saying change it but i just want to explain. i understand you want to make it different from other kiais by not introducing 1/4th early but basic 1/2 jumps for pretty much the entirety to me is very boring. first of all its literally the same as 00:33:607 - the build up, which cant be helped i guess and two, i think there are many ways it could be more interesting. by dropping some 1/4th streams or 1/4th LN streams or some repeating patterns or some interesting LN overlapping etc etc there are so many ways i can think of that would make this section more interesting than it is. i understand fully that you will not want to change it but i would love to see some more interesting patterns here because quite frankly having plain 1/2 jumps, to me, is a bittt boring.

00:42:607 - this pattern doesnt represent the kicks very well and even if there is a pattern that does it blends with the rest of the section making it very unclear. maybe jack them or somin to show that you do know they exist lol

00:44:407 - ^^ etc etc

00:47:707 - aren't these overlapping patterns saved for 1/8th streams? and i dont hear anything relevant to one :thinking:

00:57:007 (57007|3,57307|3) - eeK why did you do this lmao. easily avoidable and if there is no reason move it to save everyones sanity

00:59:107 (59107|3,59257|3,59407|3) - 00:59:407 (59407|0,59557|0,59707|0) - 01:01:657 (61657|0,61807|0,61957|0,62107|0) - stacks stacks lalala i know these are most likely intended but the first two i mentioned are very :thinking: because they are not very fun to play or look at lmao

01:07:207 - add one for cymbal pls

01:08:707 (68707|2,68707|1,68857|2,69007|1,69007|2,69157|1,69307|2,69307|1) - pretty much the same reasoning as i mentioned in the first section tbh

01:11:107 (71107|1,71107|2,71257|2,71407|1,71407|2,71557|1,71707|2,71707|1) - and again *crys self to sleep*

01:12:007 - again triple for cymbal pls

01:40:807 (100807|3,100807|2,100957|2,100957|3,101107|2,101107|3,101257|3,101257|2) - not particularly fun to play. i would swap halfway through for it to flow better

01:42:007 - okay i legit feel like mapping the doubles to vocal is ~~fucking stupid and you should reconsider existence~~ not the best of choices lol. makes 100000000% more sense to map to kicks and snares honestly.

my final point is the direction of flow in kiai 2 3 and 4 is very erratic and causes stacks everywhere and its not fun. i would make it more varied since each kiai seems to flow to one direction primarily but eh idk

okay im stopping here because the rest of the map looks better

was just looking at this after modding the hard and thought id make a post

pls dont smite me thx

no rudeness intended gl with map

Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-11-22T03:47:26+00:00

error_exe777 wrote:
abraxos i would like to have a friendly discussion about your diff. got some concerns i'd like to run through sure

s
00:02:407 - honestly this could be represented better by jacking 00:02:407 (2407|0,2557|3) - and 00:02:707 (2707|3,2857|0) - since 00:02:557 (2557|3,2707|3) - these arent the same sound doing a 1414 (or any other trill variant) isn't enough for me imo since trills have been already used predominantly in this section to represent the hihats

00:03:007 (3007|0,3082|3,3157|0,3232|3,3307|1,3382|0,3457|1,3532|0) - alot of these jacks in this section, for me, are really awkward to play. i understand this is subjective and its close to rank lalala but thought id mention it. there is no real fix but shush that's kinda the intention since i needed some way to differentiate between the hihat trills and the softer tom drums

00:03:607 (3607|2,3757|1,3907|1,4057|2,4207|2,4282|1,4357|2,4432|1) - same suggestion with the jacks above but having all of these in the middle columns is very odd and really weird to play imo. like just some variation would help the flow some more since having 3 beats worth of notes in two columns is very limiting it's just the natural progression of the pattern? i've already done it for the 14 columns, and now it's translated into 23. if you think that 23 column stuff is a bit awkward then my next response would be isn't this current configuration already optimized to ease you into the 23 column things, no?

00:05:332 (5332|1,5407|3,5482|1,5557|3) - i dont recommend trilling these since the others above do not, unless you have a reason for it the hihats are accompanied by a light snare drum from 00:05:557 - onwards, which explains the pattern discrepancy

00:08:557 (8557|0,8707|0) - i dont see any reason for this since there is no kick sound and the snare hat thing has never jacked before and after this point shifted the notes

00:18:457 (18457|2,18607|3,18682|2,18757|3,18832|2) - shouldnt these be swapped? since 00:18:007 (18007|1,18157|3,18307|1,18457|2) - this 1/2 trill isnt consistent with 00:16:807 (16807|0,16957|2,17107|0,17257|2) - and there is no different sound edited part wwww

00:26:332 (26332|0,26407|3,26557|0,26707|3,26857|0,27007|3) - this is fine i guess but maybe other columns would be better to avoid the extented 6 note trill it's a bit weird now that you're telling me this since right beforehand you encouraged repetition for the hi-tom pairs - it's the same case here, just that the thing is a bit long. i don't think 1/2 200 bpm trills are too hard for insane either

00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|3,27757|0,27832|3) - i recommend making these LNs to show you're representing a different sound from the entire section under it done something like that

00:27:907 (27907|1,27907|2) - dont see why this is a triple at all. there is no extra hat or kick from what i can here it isn't?

00:28:807 (28807|0,29107|0,29407|0,29707|0,30007|0,30307|0,30607|0,30907|0,31207|0,31507|0,31807|0,32107|0,32407|0,32707|0,33007|0,33307|0) - stacks smh. ive got no problem with this but maybe shifting the stack to column 4 halfway through would be cool damn, but these are just 200 bpm stuff you know - the only reason why i didn't shift them is because there isn't quite a halfway point like you said there was; sure, you can probably just force a split somewhere in the middle (which is here, btw 00:30:907 - ) but then it just doesn't quite fit with the accent of the snares in the music, since they're pretty much all consistently sounded throughout the whole 16 note chain

00:37:207 (37207|0,37357|0,37507|0,37657|0,37807|0) - ahhh not a fan of this lmao. really unintuitive to play and after the 1/4th bursts behind it its not a very nice transition to kiai and i would recommend something less jack-y
it pairs with 00:36:607 - so the weight issues should be a little unfounded

as for the transition, i would sort of understand if your vision for this chart at this level should be something like a hard but the thing is it's an insane. i suppose it'd be better if i made the balance on the right heavy first before shifting to the left, which i did edit somewhat in this section.
main point is that it's not meant to be a smooth sailing ride all the way, which i suppose is what your mod is based on

00:38:332 (38332|2) - please explain to me what this is lmaooo lmaoooooo there are 1/8 synth accents there i did edit the part tho

00:38:407 - ah here is my main concern. take this with a bit of salt lol. basically i disagree with the way you've mapped this. im not saying change it but i just want to explain. i understand you want to make it different from other kiais by not introducing 1/4th early but basic 1/2 jumps for pretty much the entirety to me is very boring. first of all its literally the same as 00:33:607 - the build up, which cant be helped i guess and two, i think there are many ways it could be more interesting. by dropping some 1/4th streams or 1/4th LN streams or some repeating patterns or some interesting LN overlapping etc etc there are so many ways i can think of that would make this section more interesting than it is. i understand fully that you will not want to change it but i would love to see some more interesting patterns here because quite frankly having plain 1/2 jumps, to me, is a bittt boring.

let's break this down a little

first of all its literally the same as 00:33:607 - the build up
this is objectively wrong - the build up specificially never introduced 00:38:557 (38557|1,38707|1,38857|1) - three note stacking, and certainlynever introduced 00:39:457 (39457|0,39457|2,39607|3,39607|1,39757|2,39757|0) - complete avoidance of stacking either

by dropping some 1/4th streams or 1/4th LN streams or some repeating patterns or some interesting LN overlapping
i think i've already established the fact that this section wasn't meant to have 1/4 streams so i'll jump over that

1/4 LN streams? don't you think the density here for those might be a bit unwarranted

interesting LN overlapping - now that's a gimmick that BFN uses, and it brings me to the point of "variety just because"
i'm not a big proponent of that - in fact, i like making stuff that just does enough to represent the music well; sometimes necessitating subtle usage of chording/stacking/etc. i don't get why people are this caught up with making their sets look like a motley of different stuff with little to no thought put into just doing the job of representing the music, almost like sticking different-sized lego pieces together haphazardly. that's not what i want to do

00:42:607 - this pattern doesnt represent the kicks very well and even if there is a pattern that does it blends with the rest of the section making it very unclear. maybe jack them or somin to show that you do know they exist lol
00:44:407 - ^^ etc etc not quite sure what to say to this

i suppose you must've been on a high timeline zoom but these accents are obvious in play for me, pretty sure they are for everyone else because they're consecutive 3 note jacks on each of the hands

00:47:707 - aren't these overlapping patterns saved for 1/8th streams? and i dont hear anything relevant to one :thinking: there's enough of an accent in the vocals that requires me to put those LNs; i suppose you chose to make the distinction between this vocal grit part and the others because of their accompanied "more obvious" 1/8 wobbles but i planned to keep all these vocal drones equally represented regardless of whether or not their 1/8 wobbles were "obvious" - if this were a higher diff then yes i would've made that distinction but for the interests of this difficulty i'd say keep it

00:57:007 (57007|3,57307|3) - eeK why did you do this lmao. easily avoidable and if there is no reason move it to save everyones sanity sanity?
few things

it's to make a distinction between 00:56:107 - and 00:57:307 -
the former is obviously a drawn-out synth and the latter is just a kick - the shield cuts the second LN out in a way that's sudden and interrupting, just like how the kick was in the music

i don't understand why it's so hard to hit just that shield especially when i gave a 1/4 allowance on a 200bpm difficulty

00:59:107 (59107|3,59257|3,59407|3) - 00:59:407 (59407|0,59557|0,59707|0) - 01:01:657 (61657|0,61807|0,61957|0,62107|0) - stacks stacks lalala i know these are most likely intended but the first two i mentioned are very :thinking: because they are not very fun to play or look at lmao

01:08:707 (68707|2,68707|1,68857|2,69007|1,69007|2,69157|1,69307|2,69307|1) - pretty much the same reasoning as i mentioned in the first section tbh

01:11:107 (71107|1,71107|2,71257|2,71407|1,71407|2,71557|1,71707|2,71707|1) - and again *crys self to sleep*
let's stop being condescending first of all, yes

those stacks are intended for the vocal rise - there's a certain part in the verses where the vocal just goes upwards and curves down, which i wanted to capture with the stacking

"not very nice to look at" i think you have better points to make than this, come on now

01:07:207 - add one for cymbal pls
01:12:007 - again triple for cymbal pls
way too weak, also i don't think i added triples anywhere in this whole chart except at the end, if i did it's probably a mistake

01:40:807 (100807|3,100807|2,100957|2,100957|3,101107|2,101107|3,101257|3,101257|2) - not particularly fun to play. i would swap halfway through for it to flow better i'm not prioritizing fun "just because", the only reason why i chose to stack them together was because the music also did the same thing

also swapping halfway is almost impossible unless you want to break the paradigm of [12] or [34]s being kicks

01:42:007 - okay i legit feel like mapping the doubles to vocal is ~~fucking stupid and you should reconsider existence~~ not the best of choices lol. makes 100000000% more sense to map to kicks and snares honestly.
let's stop being condescending first of all, yes

it's really easy to just hand me the "it makes no sense" argument without much basis to the claim
it's also really easy to fall back on our handed-down beliefs of "vocal mapping is dumb ra ra ra" and all that but i would implore anyone to just stop a while and think for themselves the basis for this widely-held stereotype

i chose to go for the vocal accents over the percussion because i thought the vocals were just as important, if not more so, than the percussion handed to me in this part. it just springs out to me and i chose to go with it, simple as that
it also gives the chorus a bit more of life than just mindless 1/2 JS, since the vocal mapping forces me to change the streams up in such a way that players have to cope, rather than have it be just a dull drone of notes

as for the vocal mapping is bad stereotype - let's not jump the gun and remove all form of validity for any form of vocal mapping. i'm sure we all can agree that vocals are a part of a song, much like any other instrument; and given the fact that they're actually an instrument in it's own right i don't see any issues with trying it out so as long as you don't do it incorrectly

if you want, i can explain to you why it isn't done wrongly here, but i'm a bit tight on time asdf

my final point is the direction of flow in kiai 2 3 and 4 is very erratic and causes stacks everywhere and its not fun. i would make it more varied since each kiai seems to flow to one direction primarily but eh idk directionality wasn't the main emphasis, rather it was the doubling of the vocals

again, the point about "variation just because" you can refer above for my onion

okay im stopping here because the rest of the map looks better

was just looking at this after modding the hard and thought id make a post

pls dont smite me thx it's alright i smite everyone

no rudeness intended gl with map

https://pastebin.com/AASBg0Bz

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-11-22T08:27:24+00:00

Abraxos wrote:
https://pastebin.com/AASBg0Bz

updatoddeded

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-11-22T15:04:21+00:00

Will reply once I'm back from overseas
Thanks for understanding

error_exe777

720 posts

Joined February 2016

error_exe777 2017-11-22T18:29:56+00:00

eh, not really happy with the responses but i wont poke it further. i tried to help but you disagree and its your map at the end on the day so /shrug

Abraxos

855 posts

Joined October 2014

Abraxos 2017-11-22T19:25:49+00:00

it's 3:04 where i am but

error_exe777 wrote:
eh, not really happy with the responses but i wont poke it further. i tried to help but you disagree and its your map at the end on the day so /shrug

i would like to point to the fact that you didn't give me much at all to work with

cat 1

error_exe777 wrote:
00:03:007 (3007|0,3082|3,3157|0,3232|3,3307|1,3382|0,3457|1,3532|0) - alot of these jacks in this section, for me, are really awkward to play. i understand this is subjective and its close to rank lalala but thought id mention it. there is no real fix but shush

00:03:607 (3607|2,3757|1,3907|1,4057|2,4207|2,4282|1,4357|2,4432|1) - same suggestion with the jacks above but having all of these in the middle columns is very odd and really weird to play imo. like just some variation would help the flow some more since having 3 beats worth of notes in two columns is very limiting

00:28:807 (28807|0,29107|0,29407|0,29707|0,30007|0,30307|0,30607|0,30907|0,31207|0,31507|0,31807|0,32107|0,32407|0,32707|0,33007|0,33307|0) - stacks smh. ive got no problem with this but maybe shifting the stack to column 4 halfway through would be cool

00:38:407 - ah here is my main concern. take this with a bit of salt lol. basically i disagree with the way you've mapped this. im not saying change it but i just want to explain. i understand you want to make it different from other kiais by not introducing 1/4th early but basic 1/2 jumps for pretty much the entirety to me is very boring. first of all its literally the same as 00:33:607 - the build up, which cant be helped i guess and two, i think there are many ways it could be more interesting. by dropping some 1/4th streams or 1/4th LN streams or some repeating patterns or some interesting LN overlapping etc etc there are so many ways i can think of that would make this section more interesting than it is. i understand fully that you will not want to change it but i would love to see some more interesting patterns here because quite frankly having plain 1/2 jumps, to me, is a bittt boring.

00:57:007 (57007|3,57307|3) - eeK why did you do this lmao. easily avoidable and if there is no reason move it to save everyones sanity

00:59:107 (59107|3,59257|3,59407|3) - 00:59:407 (59407|0,59557|0,59707|0) - 01:01:657 (61657|0,61807|0,61957|0,62107|0) - stacks stacks lalala i know these are most likely intended but the first two i mentioned are very :thinking: because they are not very fun to play or look at lmao

01:11:107 (71107|1,71107|2,71257|2,71407|1,71407|2,71557|1,71707|2,71707|1) - and again *crys self to sleep*

01:08:707 (68707|2,68707|1,68857|2,69007|1,69007|2,69157|1,69307|2,69307|1) - pretty much the same reasoning as i mentioned in the first section tbh

01:40:807 (100807|3,100807|2,100957|2,100957|3,101107|2,101107|3,101257|3,101257|2) - not particularly fun to play. i would swap halfway through for it to flow better

01:42:007 - okay i legit feel like mapping the doubles to vocal is ~~fucking stupid and you should reconsider existence~~ not the best of choices lol. makes 100000000% more sense to map to kicks and snares honestly.

my final point is the direction of flow in kiai 2 3 and 4 is very erratic and causes stacks everywhere and its not fun. i would make it more varied since each kiai seems to flow to one direction primarily but eh idk

all these suggestions you outlined in this box based themselves primarily on your subjective senses - it is hard to quantify your level of "fun" or "intuitiveness" if you leave little to no elaboration behind the rudimentary finger-pointing at some form of "bad" flow or stacking

even if so, ergonomics (don't forget, your concept of ergonomics is different from everybody else's) isn't the only integral thing when it comes to charting - perhaps i'm biased in this respect but i wish to lend way more emphasis on how i represent the song, since the main point of charting in this game, to me at least, is to represent the music as congruently as possible, given the limits of everything else in regards to charting

if you're able to understand the differences in our viewpoints of charting, then i really don't see why you must put your chin so high and not only claim that you "tried to help me" but also imply that you "don't wish to bother further because it's my map and i deserve to have my viewpoints (no matter how wrong they are)".
it seems like such a thinly-veiled cover for your own complexes and it really bleeds in badly into your overall image; i really don't wish to pass judgement based on like 2 posts but idk you're not really helping me out here (funny how this can mean two things)

let's stop assuming that our perspectives on charting are the only true godsend out of all the other "lowly, dingy" ones and stop with the presumptuous, holier-than-thou attitude, please - i've been very clinical and methodical in my explanations, and i'd expect anyone else to do the same for me, since the main point of modding is to gather and process feedback whatever it may be.

but whatever, it's not too much of a loss for the both of us (and might be easier for you to even) if you just gave in and walked away, like you so eloquently put.

cat 2

error_exe777 wrote:
00:05:332 (5332|1,5407|3,5482|1,5557|3) - i dont recommend trilling these since the others above do not, unless you have a reason for it

these were just oversights, nothing more than that - you didn't notice what i was doing and i pointed out what i was doing, simple stuff

cat 3

error_exe777 wrote:
00:27:907 (27907|1,27907|2) - dont see why this is a triple at all. there is no extra hat or kick from what i can here

was a mistake on your part i think, nothing major too

cat 4

error_exe777 wrote:
00:02:407 - honestly this could be represented better by jacking 00:02:407 (2407|0,2557|3) - and 00:02:707 (2707|3,2857|0) - since 00:02:557 (2557|3,2707|3) - these arent the same sound

00:08:557 (8557|0,8707|0) - i dont see any reason for this since there is no kick sound and the snare hat thing has never jacked before and after this point

00:18:457 (18457|2,18607|3,18682|2,18757|3,18832|2) - shouldnt these be swapped? since 00:18:007 (18007|1,18157|3,18307|1,18457|2) - this 1/2 trill isnt consistent with 00:16:807 (16807|0,16957|2,17107|0,17257|2) - and there is no different sound

00:27:607 (27607|0,27682|3,27757|0,27832|3) - i recommend making these LNs to show you're representing a different sound from the entire section under it

00:37:207 (37207|0,37357|0,37507|0,37657|0,37807|0) - ahhh not a fan of this lmao. really unintuitive to play and after the 1/4th bursts behind it its not a very nice transition to kiai and i would recommend something less jack-y

00:47:707 - aren't these overlapping patterns saved for 1/8th streams? and i dont hear anything relevant to one :thinking:

01:07:207 - add one for cymbal pls

01:12:007 - again triple for cymbal pls

00:38:332 (38332|2) - please explain to me what this is lmaooo

00:42:607 - this pattern doesnt represent the kicks very well and even if there is a pattern that does it blends with the rest of the section making it very unclear. maybe jack them or somin to show that you do know they exist lol
00:44:407 - ^^ etc etc

00:26:332 (26332|0,26407|3,26557|0,26707|3,26857|0,27007|3) - this is fine i guess but maybe other columns would be better to avoid the extented 6
note trill***

these ones were the ones that gave me insight into how you approached the map (and hence was useful); there were suitable justifications that accompanied your suggestions outside of the subjective and i either responded explaining how i saw the structure of the map is supposed to be, or i actually amended the map because of your points

it's important to note that a couple of these points seemed to stem from the fact that you didn't quite understand how the map was structured

***this actually had no strong backbone to it either, but i assumed according to your pious ergonomic slant this was about how "uncomfortable" the map was, which i promptly responded to in my last post

that's all, leaving this for posterity and easier access

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-11-27T10:44:44+00:00

Hello error_exe777, thanks for modding!
looked thoroughly with attention, no offence intended in my replies
Keeping my replies as simple and understandable for convenience purpose

error_exe777 wrote:
cba to mod it all ill do the new diff

h
00:06:457 (6457|0,6532|2,6607|0) - why do these trill? before it they havent and i dont think this is for a different sound
√ Fixed!

00:06:907 (6907|1,7057|1) - now you're representing a different sound with the same pattern as before
√ Fixed!

eg 00:03:307 (3307|2,3457|2) - . this whole section could be done better with some more overlapping
00:02:407 (2407|0,2707|0) - now that i look this confuses me alot. you skip a hat sound on the 1/4th and representing kicks with LNs, with a 1/4th gap between them for me is really, really odd. i wouldnt over complicate things with this instance because there are more intuitive and simpler ways around it. a simple jumpstream would work fine
▲ Keep for now as I actually think it plays fine. Will wait for more opinion on this part before making changes

00:37:807 (37807|2,37882|1) - i think you should make the single note an LN and make the LN a single note. i dont see why the note is pressed after you press the LN. real odd to me
√ Good point!

00:39:907 (39907|3,40057|3) - this is out of place compared to the rest of the section and tbh i cant hear any extra sound or anything that suggests this. i may be wrong tho
▲ It was intended for vocal. Will wait for more opinion on this part before making changes

00:50:407 (50407|0,50557|0,50707|0) - 00:51:757 (51757|3,51907|3,52057|3) - 00:40:807 (40807|0,41107|0) - 00:41:257 (41257|3,41557|3) - i understand your intention behind the shields in this section but they play really bad honestly. kinda fucks up the feel and flow of the section where there rest of the map is pretty fluid this is here and is like "im out of place love me" which imo doesnt work as well as it looks in the editor. but this is subjective.
▲ I will take note of this part thanks

01:06:607 - there is no real try to represent the kicks here
√ Amended!

01:37:507 (97507|0,97507|2,97657|0,97657|2) - these shouldnt jack since you havent for the rest of the section
√ Fixed!

02:15:907 (135907|3,135982|2,136057|1,136132|0) - now this is overmapping and for a hard difficulty i think its really out of place. keep to what the old diff did
▲ I would like to keep it different from eg 02:15:307 (135307|2,135457|0) - due to obvious intensity of sound.
Will take note of this part, however.

right, im pretty eh with this map. like, the way you did the stream patterns are bloody awesome, but you've used it for every stream which doesnt give much variation within the level. like a stream like 02:07:807 - is wayy different to 02:21:607 - which is really annoying and im not a fan of it.
my next point is slightly subjective, but i feel representing kicks with LNs doesnt work with a map like this. there are enough to call this an LN diff and the rest of the spread definitely is not. like, 01:14:407 - i feel would work better with notes for instance but by looking at the rest of the map and your old diff its pretty evident you like your LNs lmao.
i really like your style but its just not really something i can't embrace due to the nature of this spread and song. if this whole set were LNs this would be great butttt its not so eh. not to mention the density is very crooked throughout. if you look at the bar chart on the left hand side of the screen, to me its really inconsistent between section. but whatever, no big deal tbh.
▲ I will try my best to work something out for this advice but no guarantees (> <)"

this diff is not my cup of tea so i sincerely apologise about me acting rude. its your map and my opinion so dont change anything just to make me happy. if you can justify your choices then go straight ahead. like i said i like the style.
good luck
No problem, otsukaresama~ ★

i was wayyyyyyy too rude in that im so sorry
gl with the mapset
It's no problem at all, I appreciated your effort! The diff was done in a rush to be honest haha... So you could say I deserved it (- -)lll
Thanks again~

Update ← Click me!
Wow, there's a word limit for forum posts now? o.o

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-11-27T11:38:44+00:00

ByeForNow wrote:
Hello error_exe777, thanks for modding!
looked thoroughly with attention, no offence intended in my replies
Keeping my replies as simple and understandable for convenience purpose

error_exe777 wrote:
cba to mod it all ill do the new diff

h
00:06:457 (6457|0,6532|2,6607|0) - why do these trill? before it they havent and i dont think this is for a different sound
√ Fixed!

00:06:907 (6907|1,7057|1) - now you're representing a different sound with the same pattern as before
√ Fixed!

eg 00:03:307 (3307|2,3457|2) - . this whole section could be done better with some more overlapping
00:02:407 (2407|0,2707|0) - now that i look this confuses me alot. you skip a hat sound on the 1/4th and representing kicks with LNs, with a 1/4th gap between them for me is really, really odd. i wouldnt over complicate things with this instance because there are more intuitive and simpler ways around it. a simple jumpstream would work fine
▲ Keep for now as I actually think it plays fine. Will wait for more opinion on this part before making changes

00:37:807 (37807|2,37882|1) - i think you should make the single note an LN and make the LN a single note. i dont see why the note is pressed after you press the LN. real odd to me
√ Good point!

00:39:907 (39907|3,40057|3) - this is out of place compared to the rest of the section and tbh i cant hear any extra sound or anything that suggests this. i may be wrong tho
▲ It was intended for vocal. Will wait for more opinion on this part before making changes

00:50:407 (50407|0,50557|0,50707|0) - 00:51:757 (51757|3,51907|3,52057|3) - 00:40:807 (40807|0,41107|0) - 00:41:257 (41257|3,41557|3) - i understand your intention behind the shields in this section but they play really bad honestly. kinda fucks up the feel and flow of the section where there rest of the map is pretty fluid this is here and is like "im out of place love me" which imo doesnt work as well as it looks in the editor. but this is subjective.
▲ I will take note of this part thanks

01:06:607 - there is no real try to represent the kicks here
√ Amended!

01:37:507 (97507|0,97507|2,97657|0,97657|2) - these shouldnt jack since you havent for the rest of the section
√ Fixed!

02:15:907 (135907|3,135982|2,136057|1,136132|0) - now this is overmapping and for a hard difficulty i think its really out of place. keep to what the old diff did
▲ I would like to keep it different from eg 02:15:307 (135307|2,135457|0) - due to obvious intensity of sound.
Will take note of this part, however.

right, im pretty eh with this map. like, the way you did the stream patterns are bloody awesome, but you've used it for every stream which doesnt give much variation within the level. like a stream like 02:07:807 - is wayy different to 02:21:607 - which is really annoying and im not a fan of it.
my next point is slightly subjective, but i feel representing kicks with LNs doesnt work with a map like this. there are enough to call this an LN diff and the rest of the spread definitely is not. like, 01:14:407 - i feel would work better with notes for instance but by looking at the rest of the map and your old diff its pretty evident you like your LNs lmao.
i really like your style but its just not really something i can't embrace due to the nature of this spread and song. if this whole set were LNs this would be great butttt its not so eh. not to mention the density is very crooked throughout. if you look at the bar chart on the left hand side of the screen, to me its really inconsistent between section. but whatever, no big deal tbh.
▲ I will try my best to work something out for this advice but no guarantees (> <)"

this diff is not my cup of tea so i sincerely apologise about me acting rude. its your map and my opinion so dont change anything just to make me happy. if you can justify your choices then go straight ahead. like i said i like the style.
good luck
No problem, otsukaresama~ ★

i was wayyyyyyy too rude in that im so sorry
gl with the mapset
It's no problem at all, I appreciated your effort! The diff was done in a rush to be honest haha... So you could say I deserved it (- -)lll
Thanks again~
Update ← Click me!
Wow, there's a word limit for forum posts now? o.o

updatededed

Umo-

1,443 posts

Joined April 2016

Umo- 2017-12-05T22:29:42+00:00

hi there
1234

[b4n alternative hard]

Why don't you name the difficulty to something nicer like "Hard+" or "Advanced"?
00:00:607 - column 1 is pretty dead here, move some notes to it
00:12:007 - you could add one more note here like you did at 00:02:407 - and00:03:607 -
00:21:607 - could add a note here since pitch gets a bit louder so it would be nice if you represented it with double
00:26:407 (26407|0,26707|1,27007|2) - those LNs seem pretty random compared to the rest of the beginning of the map, why don't you follow some snares and hihats like before?
00:30:007 (30007|0,30307|3) - same as before, pretty random LNs, why don't you put LNs on other notes aswell?
00:37:807 (37807|2) - you could change this to a LN for that "woosh" sound or whatever
00:38:257 (38257|2,38257|3) - I dont really see the reason for the double here, double would work better at 00:38:407 - for a cymbal sound
00:50:407 (50407|2,50407|0) - you follow snares with the doubles so why is this a double on a drum (or whatever instrument is that)
00:57:607 - column 4 dead, you could do something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9698703
01:01:357 - add a note for drum
01:16:657 (76657|2) - this would work better as a LN since on that sections you only follow drums with a single notes so that one seems a bit out of place
01:26:707 (86707|1) - shouldn't this be a double? it has a snare like other notes 01:26:107 (86107|3,86107|2) - 01:25:507 (85507|0,85507|1) - etc
01:42:457 (102457|3,102457|2) - there is no sound that supports that double imo, why don't you change it to single note?
01:44:857 (104857|1,104857|3) - ^
01:57:907 (117907|3,118207|2,118507|1,118807|0) - these would work better as 1/1
02:01:057 (121057|2,121057|3) - would work better as a single note since there is no drum/snare
02:24:157 (144157|1) - why don't you change this to a LN? it would work nice since its the same sound as 02:24:007 (144007|3,144007|2) -

LN placement is pretty weird but I really like this difficulty

good luck

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-12-08T12:12:10+00:00

Hello Umo-, thanks for modding!
looked thoroughly with attention, no offence intended in my replies
Keeping my replies as simple and understandable for convenience purpose

Reply

Umo- wrote:
hi there
1234

[b4n alternative hard]
Why don't you name the difficulty to something nicer like "Hard+" or "Advanced"?
▲I'm leaving it to Riuno's decision, I couldn't think of a better diff name lol

00:00:607 - column 1 is pretty dead here, move some notes to it
00:12:007 - you could add one more note here like you did at 00:02:407 - and00:03:607 -
√ Applied!

00:21:607 - could add a note here since pitch gets a bit louder so it would be nice if you represented it with double
▲ I would like to keep it for consistency

00:26:407 (26407|0,26707|1,27007|2) - those LNs seem pretty random compared to the rest of the beginning of the map, why don't you follow some snares and hihats like before?
√ Fixed!

00:30:007 (30007|0,30307|3) - same as before, pretty random LNs, why don't you put LNs on other notes aswell?
▲ The LN is following the synth sound

00:37:807 (37807|2) - you could change this to a LN for that "woosh" sound or whatever
▲ Following abra's diff

00:38:257 (38257|2,38257|3) - I dont really see the reason for the double here, double would work better at 00:38:407 - for a cymbal sound
√ Fixed!

00:50:407 (50407|2,50407|0) - you follow snares with the doubles so why is this a double on a drum (or whatever instrument is that)
▲ For the vocal pitch

00:57:607 - column 4 dead, you could do something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9698703
▲ Pattern is intended, will keep this on mind though

01:01:357 - add a note for drum
▲ Pattern here is double per white line for drum

01:16:657 (76657|2) - this would work better as a LN since on that sections you only follow drums with a single notes so that one seems a bit out of place
√ Applied!

01:26:707 (86707|1) - shouldn't this be a double? it has a snare like other notes 01:26:107 (86107|3,86107|2) - 01:25:507 (85507|0,85507|1) - etc
√ Fixed!

01:42:457 (102457|3,102457|2) - there is no sound that supports that double imo, why don't you change it to single note?
01:44:857 (104857|1,104857|3) - ^
02:01:057 (121057|2,121057|3) - would work better as a single note since there is no drum/snare
▲ Double is for vocal

01:57:907 (117907|3,118207|2,118507|1,118807|0) - these would work better as 1/1
▲ Keep to have a difference of intensify from 03:00:307 (180307|0) - etc

02:24:157 (144157|1) - why don't you change this to a LN? it would work nice since its the same sound as 02:24:007 (144007|3,144007|2) -
▲ Keep for consistency in pattern
LN placement is pretty weird but I really like this difficulty

good luck

Update! ← Click me!
(I got lazy to color my words cause I'm tired from work haha)

Riuno re-hitsound please & re-name my diff to something else like Advanced, Hyper or w/e. Or you can leave it as it is as you prefer.
Kudos Umo- too.
Thanks

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-12-08T22:01:56+00:00

Umo- wrote:
Why don't you name the difficulty to something nicer like "Hard+" or "Advanced"?

iirc "+" and "-" difficulty names were scrapped pretty long ago due to confusion and stuff

ByeForNow wrote:
re-name my diff to something else like Advanced, Hyper or w/e. Or you can leave it as it is as you prefer.

kept the diff name as it is since putting a harder "difficulty name" even though your original Hard is generally more difficult than this doesn't really make much sense

updated

Litharrale

705 posts

Joined August 2013

Litharrale 2017-12-14T01:10:57+00:00

back to mod B4Ns new diff

1|2|3|4

00:02:707 - adding a note here on col 2 really emphasizes the repeat, same with 00:03:907 (3907|3) -

00:12:307 (12307|3,12457|3,12607|1,12757|1) - I like this pattern you've got going on here but it should also happen here 00:12:907 (12907|2) - to follow the pattern in the song

00:38:557 (38557|2) - imo the kiai patterns should be more difficult than this, the intro is a lot harder and then the song kicks it up and you're met with single double single double patterns. This actually changes pretty quick, it's just the very start of the kiai that its like this

01:01:657 (61657|1) - make this small section more dense to reflect the sudden 1/2 bass hits

01:49:657 (109657|2,110107|0) - opposite of before, these probably shouldn't exist since there's no bass hit like there is in the previous twin

03:10:357 (190357|1,190357|2) - super ghost

My suggestions here repeat throughout the map btw

a lot of awkward patterns but thats a good thing as it acts as a decent gap to abraxos' diff, i like this diff

ByeForNow

283 posts

Joined October 2015

ByeForNow 2017-12-14T16:26:46+00:00

Reply to Lith

Litharrale wrote:
back to mod B4Ns new diff

1|2|3|4

00:02:707 - adding a note here on col 2 really emphasizes the repeat, same with 00:03:907 (3907|3) -
√ Applied!

00:12:307 (12307|3,12457|3,12607|1,12757|1) - I like this pattern you've got going on here but it should also happen here 00:12:907 (12907|2) - to follow the pattern in the song
√ Applied!

00:38:557 (38557|2) - imo the kiai patterns should be more difficult than this, the intro is a lot harder and then the song kicks it up and you're met with single double single double patterns. This actually changes pretty quick, it's just the very start of the kiai that its like this
▲ I could make these drums eg 00:39:007 - double but it'll make 00:38:707 - less emphasised.
Or I could make them all doubles but it defeats the purpose of this diff of creating diffculty gap.
Can't think of any ways to buff this part otherwise.
Therefore, no change unless possible solution provided

01:01:657 (61657|1) - make this small section more dense to reflect the sudden 1/2 bass hits
▲ I do not think it's a good idea.
Reason being I had not used doubles for the drums previously eg 00:57:907 -
(The woodwind instrument or w/e it is is my focus point for this part anyways)
Therefore what I have is as dense as it could get imo for balance/consistency of note placement.

01:49:657 (109657|2,110107|0) - opposite of before, these probably shouldn't exist since there's no bass hit like there is in the previous twin
▲ Double is for vocal. I Shifted LN placement to make it more obvious if that helps.

03:10:357 (190357|1,190357|2) - super ghost
▲ Double is for crash sound, similar to 03:10:207 - .

My suggestions here repeat throughout the map btw
Err..

a lot of awkward patterns but thats a good thing as it acts as a decent gap to abraxos' diff, i like this diff
Technical patterns I suppose lol.

Self check in Bye4Now's Hard

ByeForNow wrote:
Other than this diff I did another self mod on my LN diff and these are the changes with reasons.
Buffed kiai part 02:51:607 - Specifically 02:53:107 - 02:54:907 -
I realised I actually made this part easier than the previous kiai 01:43:207 - (the lack of double notes) which doesn't make sense as 02:51:607 - should be more intense, therefore should be more difficult.
Buffed 03:06:007 - 03:14:407 -
I realised I've used similar patterns in this part compared to 02:15:907 - which doesn't make sense too due to difference in intensity.
Therefore for variety, I've made it more difficult.
In a nutshell it was a pattern balance problem.

(Again, I got lazy to color my words cause I'm tired from work haha)
(Hungry too by the time I finished typing this post)

Updates!:
Bye4Now's Alternative Hard ← Click me!
Bye4Now's Hard ← Click me!

Re-hitsound needed (hopefully the last time lol)
Kudos Lith too.

Should my self check changes in Bye4Now's Hard isn't suitable, I'm placing the diff here which isn't changed for 'just in case' purposes
Bye4Now's Hard (Unchanged) ← Click me!

Thanks.

Litharrale

705 posts

Joined August 2013

Litharrale 2017-12-14T22:58:53+00:00

be nice to me people from #tracker

Fixed unused hitsounds and made BG lith-approved

sneh2.wav is unused and appears for me but not for riun so not my fault if this gets popped cause of that

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

riunosk 2017-12-14T22:59:45+00:00

Litharrale wrote:
be nice to me people from #tracker

Fixed unused hitsounds and made BG lith-approved

sneh2.wav is unused and appears for me but not for riun so not my fault if this gets popped cause of that

yes i'll take the blame if the spoopy file appears again

Rivals_7

Beatmap Nominator

2,979 posts

Joined July 2014

Rivals_7 2017-12-19T15:13:14+00:00

I feel like "Alternative Hard" is rather ambiguous. My suggestion is to make Hard -> Advanced and Alternative Hard -> Hard

[Rav]

00:38:407 (38407|0) - double probably

[B4n Hard]
- 00:55:207

Probably switch that pattern on "Hard" to be in your "Alternative" and vice versa

else ok ~~me lazy~~

Raveille

787 posts

Joined February 2012

Raveille 2017-12-20T13:53:16+00:00

accepted uwu

dingdong

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ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2017-12-21T12:03:10+00:00

Rivals_7 wrote:
I feel like "Alternative Hard" is rather ambiguous. My suggestion is to make Hard -> Advanced and Alternative Hard -> Hard
I think I will still keep it because the name kinda complements the diff.
The reason why I made 'Alternative Hard' is because my LN version, 'Hard', kinda didn't suit the diff set.
It's kinda like two different versions of the same difficulty, one LN ver, one non-LN ver.
(There's actually even some parts in the diffs that looks similar just either reversed or without LN lol)
Which I think the name, 'Alternative Hard' is very suitable for this case.

[B4n Hard]
- 00:55:207
http://puu.sh/yJIbx/7761f04dbe.jpg
Probably switch that pattern on "Hard" to be in your "Alternative" and vice versa I buffed Alternative Hard to match Hard if that's ok.

Some last self-check to make sure it's in top-notch quality.

01:18:007 - 01:37:207 - Some pattern checking done here, shifting notes to correct pitch as close to song as possible
03:25:507 - Added a note here to match 'Hard'
edit:
01:12:007 - Add note at 2 for cymbal,
01:07:207 (67207|2) - move to 4 to prevent anchor.
edit2:
https://i.gyazo.com/537614cd199167c8bfe ... f5067c.png -> https://i.gyazo.com/e38f4f1c17a04ea2c5c ... 847b9e.png
How the heck was this missed
(Hopefully Riu saw my panic pm lol)

Update! ← Click me!

Last time you've gotta re-hitsound this Riuno, go for it!

I'm very sure it's all good.
Thanks-

Last edited by ByeForNow 2017-12-22T14:46:51+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2017-12-21T12:32:13+00:00

LMAO, ALL MY PANIC CHECKS
Poor Riuno ;w;

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-23T03:39:13+00:00

ByeForNow wrote:
LMAO, ALL MY PANIC CHECKS
Poor Riuno ;w;

t-t
will update whenever i can

edit: updated
EDIT2 WAS USED WOW SPOOKY HITSOUNDS

ready for qualify

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2017-12-24T09:37:26+00:00

when
also agree with rivals about BFN's diff name, current diff name rather ambiguous tbh

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-25T00:10:38+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
when

soon ;;

Arzenvald wrote:
also agree with rivals about BFN's diff name, current diff name rather ambiguous tbh

think BFN gave a good enough reason for that

Rivals_7

Beatmap Nominator

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Rivals_7 2017-12-27T10:27:23+00:00

Qualifying from phone lol

Already rechecked yesterday and few fixes already done.

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-27T10:31:07+00:00

Rivals_7 wrote:
Qualifying from phone lol

Already rechecked yesterday and few fixes already done.

thanks rivally <3

ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2017-12-27T11:08:09+00:00

gratz and all but
uhhhh Riuno? lmao

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-28T07:08:47+00:00

ByeForNow wrote:
insert image

gratz and all but
uhhhh Riuno? lmao

was told by bn it was fine and the LNs covered the sb hitsounds

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2017-12-28T19:17:42+00:00

aw rip bg

Protastic101

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Protastic101 2017-12-29T06:08:30+00:00

Hi, congratz on qualify, but there are some issues that I believe need to be addressed.

The biggest problem right now that's been brought to my attention is the spread between normal, hard, and alternative hard, but there are a few other things as well that I'll get into later.

[General]

Could you name both the Hard's something different? Alternative hard doesn't really give an indication of which one is harder or easier. It would be acceptable if they were around the same difficulty but used completely different or unique concepts. Instead though, Alternative Hard is just a continuation of the spread despite not using many of the same ideas presented in the Hard. I might consider naming Hard to Advanced as that's lower than Hard in terms of spread naming.
02:15:907 - Regarding the double hitsounds (in B4N's diff, I haven't looked at the others), there's nothing unrankable about them, but the problem lies in the fact that you're giving feedback to the player without any kind of player input. This confuses the player as they're used to only getting feedback upon hitting a note as that's the kind of hitsounding that's established in the chart. Additionally, the volumes are inconsistent and it wavers between 10% (on the note) and 20% (in the storyboard) due to there being single notes only and double SB hitsounds https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9877487 . I would advise against adding SB hs in places where there are no notes and simply deleting them.
I've mentioned this before in your first ranked map, but I think the majority of your samples are a bit redundant since you either already have one that sounds almost identical to it or they're identical, the only difference being volume which you can adjust when importing the samples (as you have to due to them using custom names). Klepp sounds pretty low quality imo, so I think this would work better https://puu.sh/yPVZ5.wav . I'm 90% sure that sneh.wav is the same sample as sneh2.wav but just quieter. What you can do to get a quieter volume is control + shift + I and sample import it at a lower volume using the volume control at the top right of the sample import menu.
00:37:994 (37994|0,38294|2) - For whichever diffs this applies to (I'm using Nightfall as reference tho), Im pretty sure these belong on the 1/6 rather than the 1/8 before the blue tick. So it should be snapped like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9877574

[Spread from Rave's Normal to B4N's Hard]
00:33:607 - The only real way you'd be able to tell which diff is which is the fact that b4n makes heavy use of LNs whereas rav's diff is rather simple with an average amount of short notes and LNs. A possible solution here would be to add 1/2 notes to the hard, or reduce the normal to use only singles, but I feel that the latter is a bit lacking for a hard. I might do something like this though, not only for the 1/2 snare but the growing vocal too https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9877086

02:22:807 - I guess you could also say that this is pushing the spread a bit since it's a 1/2 jumpstream compared the normal's 1/1 single stream. I think if there were jumps added every 2/1 in the normal, it'd be a bit easier to go between diffs. Or, it could add a 1/2 single stream with LNs on the upbeat to better lead into the 1/2 LN usage of the Hard.

02:44:407 - Sometimes you can chalk up differences in two separate diffs as being due to different mappers having different ideas, but the normal is clearly denser than the hard here which ignores many sounds. I think this is problematic because this difficulty has been focused a lot on 1/2 streams from the previous section, so the drop in density is much larger than the difference in music intensity.

03:06:007 - and 03:15:607 - A rather big problem though is the completely different ideas used in both difficulties. As I mentioned previously, small differences and inconsistencies across diffs can be justified due to different mapping styles, but the point of a spread is not only to make a map accessible to players of varying difficulty skills, but also to gradually introduce the player to new ideas and concepts that are used in the upper difficulties in order to facilitate moving from one diff to another. The first timestamp is, for the most part, fine as the normal does make some use of LNs, but the second is where the differences become too large that the player would be unable to jump across difficulties with a little bit of practice and time. I think the LNs are well executed, so maybe introducing some simpler ones in the normal would be the best course of action here.

[Spread between Hard and Harder]
00:00:007 -

Yeah, the beginning's problematic due to the heavy usage of 1/4 short notes in the harder diff, but only 1/1 with occasional 1/2 LNs of the lower diff. What I feel like is you've built up this amazing idea of having some really cool overlapped LNs and releases, but then you sell yourself short in the next difficulty because of the more conventional LNs used in the upper diff which don't deviate much from the norm despite the easier hard. Regardless though, the rhythmic difference between the two is the main problem here. I think adding a bit more 1/2 in the easy Hard would be better for the spread since it's similar to the normal as it currently stands.

00:38:407 - In the easier Hard, it just uses simple 1/1 jumpstreams which I don't think would really constitute a hard. This jump to 1/2 jumpstreams is a bit large but still acceptable I guess. I would try to introduce the rhythm tho by making the Hard use 1/2 singles and the Harder stay the same.

These same two issues pervade both diffs, mainly the difference in pattern usage making the Hard stick out from the set as not really belonging due to introducing concepts and never using them again.

[Nightfall]
00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|2) - Should be at 100% vol for consistency with previous triplets such as 00:10:207 (10207|3,10282|2) -
00:23:407 (23407|1,23482|2) - ^

00:36:007 (36007|0,36082|2,36157|0,36232|2,36307|0,36382|2,36457|0,36532|2,36607|0,36682|2,36757|0,36832|2,36907|0,36982|2,37057|0,37132|2,37207|0) - Honestly, the build up is the same volume, difference being the speed at which the roll is played. I would leave them both at a consistent 40% (or 50% if you want to match with the jumptrill) since there's no audible change in the actual volume level of the snares in the song.

00:38:407 - The snares here are awfully quiet for a kiai. It's to the point that I can't really hear them. The only audible feedback in this case is from the hitnormals on the two other notes that don't contain the snare. My suggestion is similar to what I said in the general section, and that would be removing the sneh.wav and just using sneh2.wav instead as it's almost identical in sound but louder.

01:39:607 (99607|3,99757|3,99907|3,100057|3,100207|3,100357|3,100507|3,100657|3) - I dunno why but this kind of hurts my ears a bit. Probs cause it heavily pans right (due to the placement of the hs which isnt your fault), but also because the lower frequencies of the sample are supposed to be sustained but instead are cut off short leading to an incomplete sound. It just rings odd for me I guess though.

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-29T12:12:42+00:00

Protastic101 wrote:
very important stuff

seems like valid points for improvement, will dq it then fully review and reply to the mod(?) when i have free time
actually not sure if i should be replying to the spread issues part :/

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-12-29T15:10:15+00:00

Hi there,

I'm aware that I ain't a mania QAT but as per the mappers request, I'll dq this map

GL~

evidence

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-29T15:11:17+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Hi there,

I'm aware that I ain't a mania QAT but as per the mappers request, I'll dq this map

GL~

evidence

thank much very
now i can start work on mods again yay

Wadu

Wadu 2017-12-29T19:19:21+00:00

I love this map, gj

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-30T01:50:47+00:00

now i got time to review

Protastic101 wrote:
Hi, congratz on qualify, but there are some issues that I believe need to be addressed.

The biggest problem right now that's been brought to my attention is the spread between normal, hard, and alternative hard, but there are a few other things as well that I'll get into later.

[General]
Could you name both the Hard's something different? Alternative hard doesn't really give an indication of which one is harder or easier. It would be acceptable if they were around the same difficulty but used completely different or unique concepts. Instead though, Alternative Hard is just a continuation of the spread despite not using many of the same ideas presented in the Hard. I might consider naming Hard to Advanced as that's lower than Hard in terms of spread naming. seems okay, will talk to bfn about this before doing anything
02:15:907 - Regarding the double hitsounds (in B4N's diff, I haven't looked at the others), there's nothing unrankable about them, but the problem lies in the fact that you're giving feedback to the player without any kind of player input. This confuses the player as they're used to only getting feedback upon hitting a note as that's the kind of hitsounding that's established in the chart. Additionally, the volumes are inconsistent and it wavers between 10% (on the note) and 20% (in the storyboard) due to there being single notes only and double SB hitsounds https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9877487 . I would advise against adding SB hs in places where there are no notes and simply deleting them. will fix hitsound issues on nightfall first as reference for other diffs before fixing the rest
I've mentioned this before in your first ranked map, but I think the majority of your samples are a bit redundant since you either already have one that sounds almost identical to it or they're identical, the only difference being volume which you can adjust when importing the samples (as you have to due to them using custom names). Klepp sounds pretty low quality imo, so I think this would work better https://puu.sh/yPVZ5.wav . it sounds pretty weird for a clap hitsound to me, going to keep mine but increase the volume slightly so its more audible
I'm 90% sure that sneh.wav is the same sample as sneh2.wav but just quieter. What you can do to get a quieter volume is control + shift + I and sample import it at a lower volume using the volume control at the top right of the sample import menu. okay i guess
00:37:994 (37994|0,38294|2) - For whichever diffs this applies to (I'm using Nightfall as reference tho), Im pretty sure these belong on the 1/6 rather than the 1/8 before the blue tick. So it should be snapped like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9877574 // applied
[Nightfall]
00:15:007 (15007|0,15082|2) - Should be at 100% vol for consistency with previous triplets such as 00:10:207 (10207|3,10282|2) - okay
00:23:407 (23407|1,23482|2) - ^ ^

00:36:007 (36007|0,36082|2,36157|0,36232|2,36307|0,36382|2,36457|0,36532|2,36607|0,36682|2,36757|0,36832|2,36907|0,36982|2,37057|0,37132|2,37207|0) - Honestly, the build up is the same volume, difference being the speed at which the roll is played. I would leave them both at a consistent 40% (or 50% if you want to match with the jumptrill) since there's no audible change in the actual volume level of the snares in the song. okay left it all at 50%

00:38:407 - The snares here are awfully quiet for a kiai. It's to the point that I can't really hear them. The only audible feedback in this case is from the hitnormals on the two other notes that don't contain the snare. My suggestion is similar to what I said in the general section, and that would be removing the sneh.wav and just using sneh2.wav instead as it's almost identical in sound but louder. aight will do

01:39:607 (99607|3,99757|3,99907|3,100057|3,100207|3,100357|3,100507|3,100657|3) - I dunno why but this kind of hurts my ears a bit. Probs cause it heavily pans right (due to the placement of the hs which isnt your fault), but also because the lower frequencies of the sample are supposed to be sustained but instead are cut off short leading to an incomplete sound. It just rings odd for me I guess though. well it doesn't really hurt my ears but it might be different for everyone but generally i find the hitsounds ok

thank for suggests, not updated yet since still working on it

edit: wow can't believe i forgot the cymbal at 03:10:807 - (still unfinished)

edit2: ok updated, not sure if i used "sneh.wav" anywhere in the mapset since i don't recall encountering it and i couldn't find it while i re-did the hitsounds but wasn't given the notification that it wasn't used when updating so would be helpful if this could be resolved somehow

yay old bg is back

ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2017-12-30T04:30:54+00:00

I'm probably challenging the ranking system as someone would say and suggest me to avoid.
However I'd like to try, to offer some uniqueness while still making the map enjoyable.
So here we go

1. Difficulty Naming

Protastic101 wrote:
Could you name both the Hard's something different? Alternative hard doesn't really give an indication of which one is harder or easier. It would be acceptable if they were around the same difficulty but used completely different or unique concepts. Instead though, Alternative Hard is just a continuation of the spread despite not using many of the same ideas presented in the Hard. I might consider naming Hard to Advanced as that's lower than Hard in terms of spread naming.

Maybe the diff name is acceptable after my explaination below.
I would've named the LN diff 'Alternative Hard' but it just feels odd when it has the lower SR.

Otherwise, I'll agree to change the diff name as suggested.
(Which Riuno has already did lol)

2. Important

Protastic101 wrote:
[Spread from Rave's Normal to B4N's Hard]
[Spread between Hard and Harder]

Clarification of Hard and Alternative Hard:

Sorry if I didn't make this clear:
B4N's Hard is meant to be an extra diff in the sense where it's just a challenge that's unrelated to the set.
Like having a side dish to your main course if that makes sense.
Therefore, comparing spread using B4N's Hard won't be helpful to help with spread issues imo.

I read your suggestions thoroughly with great attention but I just couldn't find a use for it.
Probably caused by a misunderstanding though as of what I've just said.

Otherwise, I'll ask Riuno to remove the LN diff and place it in the description if it really is that much of a problem.

So what I've decided to do now is polish my difficulty once again as a friend of mine, Evening, wanted to help and kindly gave me some suggestion to decrease the gap and improve things I could've probably done better in my chart.

Which I'll be typing the changes in a separate post as this post was meant for explanation/clarification of things.

eyes

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eyes 2017-12-30T14:27:01+00:00

bg is nice and dont delete ln diff pls

Also shouldn't you add "heavenly blue" tag since that is the original song's title

riunosk

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riunosk 2017-12-30T16:51:06+00:00

eyes wrote:
bg is nice and dont delete ln diff pls

Also shouldn't you add "heavenly blue" tag since that is the original song's title

it's kinda remixed so not sure if i should add that and it's not exactly the same song either so :\

edit: added to tags after prot suggested, was similar to song anyways

Raveille

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Raveille 2018-03-01T02:30:38+00:00

doing ez owo

|1|2|3|4|

00:04:807 (4807|0,4807|1) - don't see a reason to make this a double, remove col 2 note
00:06:007 (6007|2,6307|3) - I feel like swapping columns for these 2 notes will be better (easier to handle)
00:12:607 (12607|2) - move this to col 4 cause of the same sound
00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|1) - also don't see a reason to make this a double, remove col 2 note
I realized there's some pretty inconsistent usage of doubles between 00:00:007 - and 00:28:807 - . I won't point out the doubles anymore here but can you check the doubles to make sure they are somewhat consistent?
01:37:507 (97507|1,98257|2) - move these to col 4 and col 1 respectively to represent the cymbals better
01:52:657 - LN should start here since you are vocal mapping
01:54:907 - why isn't this an LN, it is a relatively long vocal part, end the LN at 01:55:207 - since you did the same at 02:59:707 (179707|1) -
02:03:007 (123007|1) - make this an LN?
02:57:307 (177307|1) - same thing here, LN should start 02:57:457 -
03:08:257 (188257|3) - make this an LN to 03:08:707 -
03:12:457 (192457|1) - ^ to 03:12:907 -
03:16:507 (196507|2) - same thing, should start at 03:16:657 -
03:25:807 - there should be a note here even if you're vocal mapping or not
03:29:107 (209107|1,209707|2,210007|1) - ctrl+h to make it easier for the player

daz all WO oOWOo oW O

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-03-02T15:48:16+00:00

Raveille wrote:
doing ez owo

|1|2|3|4|

00:04:807 (4807|0,4807|1) - don't see a reason to make this a double, remove col 2 note okays
00:06:007 (6007|2,6307|3) - I feel like swapping columns for these 2 notes will be better (easier to handle) yeppers
00:12:607 (12607|2) - move this to col 4 cause of the same sound i chose a 4 3 4 pattern since it still emphasizes the triple sound but it isn't stacked so it's easier to play it out
00:15:607 (15607|0,15607|1) - also don't see a reason to make this a double, remove col 2 note okayser
I realized there's some pretty inconsistent usage of doubles between 00:00:007 - and 00:28:807 - . I won't point out the doubles anymore here but can you check the doubles to make sure they are somewhat consistent? yesyesyesyesyesyesyesseyseyseyseyseyseyseyseysey
01:37:507 (97507|1,98257|2) - move these to col 4 and col 1 respectively to represent the cymbals better applied with modification
01:52:657 - LN should start here since you are vocal mapping imo i feel like it's fine
01:54:907 - why isn't this an LN, it is a relatively long vocal part, end the LN at 01:55:207 - since you did the same at 02:59:707 (179707|1) - oOkKaAyY
02:03:007 (123007|1) - make this an LN? yyyyeeeesssss ssssiiirrreeee
02:57:307 (177307|1) - same thing here, LN should start 02:57:457 - same as before
03:08:257 (188257|3) - make this an LN to 03:08:707 - okayezerzer
03:12:457 (192457|1) - ^ to 03:12:907 - ^
03:16:507 (196507|2) - same thing, should start at 03:16:657 - ^
03:25:807 - there should be a note here even if you're vocal mapping or not yep, too loud to ignore
03:29:107 (209107|1,209707|2,210007|1) - ctrl+h to make it easier for the player ~~DIE~~ ok!

daz all WO oOWOo oW O WOWOWO? OWOWOWOW !

thank raveypoo

Abraxos

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Abraxos 2018-03-09T09:25:16+00:00

easy

00:16:807 (16807|0,17107|0,18007|0,18307|0) - why same columns? makes it pretty unbalanced

00:26:257 (26257|1,26407|0,26707|0,27007|1) - 00:28:507 (28507|2,28807|3) - transitions might be weird for easy players

00:39:607 - you ignored 1 for like 9 measures

00:51:907 (51907|0,52207|1,52507|2) - not sure if you want notes here since you have things like 01:59:257 (119257|0) -

00:55:207 (55207|2,55357|1,56407|3,56557|2) - i know this is easy but you could make these at least somewhat contiguous with each other like

because they're still the same sounds

01:07:207 (67207|2,67807|2,68407|2,69007|2) - (somewhat) unreasonably long anchor given the longest one was just 3 notes and caused by the 01:12:007 (72007|1,72007|2) - crash

01:42:457 (102457|2) - make these red ticks LNs so that it's more obvious this beat lands on the vocals and not the percussion
01:49:657 (109657|2) - don't need to make these LNs because by now only brain-damaged people won't realize you're following the vocals

01:55:207 - ignored 1 for 10-11 measures

02:06:007 (126007|3,126007|2) - no crash so why double

03:06:307 - vocal line

03:25:207 - crash

would've prefered if there were more structure to it outside of "crash=double etc.", but this is fine

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-03-09T15:57:21+00:00

Abraxos wrote:
easy

00:16:807 (16807|0,17107|0,18007|0,18307|0) - why same columns? makes it pretty unbalanced for kick effect

00:26:257 (26257|1,26407|0,26707|0,27007|1) - 00:28:507 (28507|2,28807|3) - transitions might be weird for easy players tried to make it a little easier

00:39:607 - you ignored 1 for like 9 measures ohshit

00:51:907 (51907|0,52207|1,52507|2) - not sure if you want notes here since you have things like 01:59:257 (119257|0) - removed

00:55:207 (55207|2,55357|1,56407|3,56557|2) - i know this is easy but you could make these at least somewhat contiguous with each other like because they're still the same sounds hmm sure

01:07:207 (67207|2,67807|2,68407|2,69007|2) - (somewhat) unreasonably long anchor given the longest one was just 3 notes and caused by the 01:12:007 (72007|1,72007|2) - crash tried to reduce it

01:42:457 (102457|2) - make these red ticks LNs so that it's more obvious this beat lands on the vocals and not the percussion wokay
01:49:657 (109657|2) - don't need to make these LNs because by now only brain-damaged people won't realize you're following the vocals dddddd

01:55:207 - ignored 1 for 10-11 measures dang i keep making them lonely

02:06:007 (126007|3,126007|2) - no crash so why double forgot to fix this in a prior self-mod

03:06:307 - vocal line will ask in discord since idk what this is supposed to mean

03:25:207 - crash yesyesyes

would've prefered if there were more structure to it outside of "crash=double etc.", but this is fine not too familiar with charting easy but :shrug:

thank for mod

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-03-14T09:49:56+00:00

when :eyes:

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-03-16T10:02:13+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
when :eyes:

bub/qual whenever you want

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-03-17T20:24:44+00:00

i got assistance from DoNotMess to mod this, basically i won't mod the handstream part, only some other stuff

[General]
Difficulty Setup
diff naming issues are resolved

Rave's Normal : HP 7,1 OD 7,1
Bye4Now's Advanced : HP 7,4 OD 7,4
Bye4Now's Hard : HP 7,8 OD 7,8
Abrax's Insane : HP 8,2 OD 8,2
Metadata
i think this already fine

Folder Usage
all files used, good

Hitsound / Keysound files
good too

Timing
ok

Chart + Hitsound
alright so, we see some difficulty gap issue, gotta confirm this

[Nightfall]
02:22:807 (142807|1) - as the highest difficulty, both Nightfall & Extra are easier than Abrax's Insane, its a great resting spot i see, but the last handstream part is too short compared with 1st handstream (also has resting spot too)

[Easy]
02:46:507 (166507|3) - remove this, the note overshadow 02:46:207 (166207|1,166807|1) - these 2 imo

[Normal]
00:02:257 (2257|1) - what this LN stand for? 1/4 hihat? remove, so 00:01:507 (1507|1,1807|3,1957|2,2107|3) - can stand out more

03:15:607 (195607|0) - imo in this part, you should map every 1/2 to get the climax over this song till the end.
it will still easier than Advanced due the nature of note easier than LN

ok headache coming, will take a look again later

Raveille

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Raveille 2018-03-18T01:53:20+00:00

all accepted from usagi sama

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-03-18T01:57:06+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
i got assistance from DoNotMess to mod this, basically i won't mod the handstream part, only some other stuff

[General]
Difficulty Setup
diff naming issues are resolved

Rave's Normal : HP 7,1 OD 7,1
Bye4Now's Advanced : HP 7,4 OD 7,4
Bye4Now's Hard : HP 7,8 OD 7,8
Abrax's Insane : HP 8,2 OD 8,2
Metadata
i think this already fine

Folder Usage
all files used, good

Hitsound / Keysound files
good too

Timing
ok

Chart + Hitsound
alright so, we see some difficulty gap issue, gotta confirm this

[Nightfall]
02:22:807 (142807|1) - as the highest difficulty, both Nightfall & Extra are easier than Abrax's Insane, its a great resting spot i see, but the last handstream part is too short compared with 1st handstream (also has resting spot too) not really much i can do about it, don't intend to change the patterns as it is

[Easy]
02:46:507 (166507|3) - remove this, the note overshadow 02:46:207 (166207|1,166807|1) - these 2 imo i think the sound that the note at 4 represents is a bit too loud to ignore so i'll leave it as it is

ok headache coming, will take a look again later

~~y u no mod diffs in ascending order tergerrdddd !!! (insertragehere)~~
thank for moddo

ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2018-03-18T06:26:44+00:00

quick check on Easy

1/2/3/4

Ez

00:00:007 (7|3) - move to 3, same sound as 00:00:607 (607|2) -
00:10:207 (10207|2,10507|1) - 1,4? same sound as 00:09:607 (9607|0,9907|3) -
00:16:807 (16807|0,17107|0) - move to 4? balance
00:26:257 (26257|1) - why the sudden 1/2? 00:23:857, 00:25:057 - - is empty
00:27:607 (27607|1,27907|0) - ctrl+G suits the sound better
00:34:207 (34207|1,34507|1,34807|3,35107|3) - 4,4,2,2? pitch
00:41:107 (41107|3,41407|2,41707|1,42007|2) - 2,3,4,2? sort of try to replicate 00:38:707 (38707|3,39007|2,39307|1,39607|0,39907|1,40207|2,40507|3) -
01:59:257 - check your pattern again, should look like 01:56:857 (116857|2,117007|1) -
02:51:607 (171607|1) - same here
02:46:807 (166807|1) - 3? too much notes on 2
02:51:607 (171607|1) - 1? column 1 empty
02:06:607 (126607|0) - 3? pretty cramp at 1,2 column
02:51:607 (171607|1) - 1? more balanced notes

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-03-18T08:25:39+00:00

ByeForNow wrote:
quick check on Easy
1/2/3/4
Ez
00:00:007 (7|3) - move to 3, same sound as 00:00:607 (607|2) - not really any specific pattern made here, so no change
00:10:207 (10207|2,10507|1) - 1,4? same sound as 00:09:607 (9607|0,9907|3) - ^
00:16:807 (16807|0,17107|0) - move to 4? balance don't think it's necessary considering the patterns after this
00:26:257 (26257|1) - why the sudden 1/2? 00:23:857, 00:25:057 - - is empty oops
00:27:607 (27607|1,27907|0) - ctrl+G suits the sound better yep it does
00:34:207 (34207|1,34507|1,34807|3,35107|3) - 4,4,2,2? pitch sure
00:41:107 (41107|3,41407|2,41707|1,42007|2) - 2,3,4,2? sort of try to replicate 00:38:707 (38707|3,39007|2,39307|1,39607|0,39907|1,40207|2,40507|3) - not really any specific pattern here as well
01:59:257 - check your pattern again, should look like 01:56:857 (116857|2,117007|1) - sounds like one vocal actually
02:51:607 (171607|1) - same here seems fine as it is, emphasizes cymbal, but added a note for vocal
02:46:807 (166807|1) - 3? too much notes on 2 okay
02:51:607 (171607|1) - 1? column 1 empty moved some stuff
02:06:607 (126607|0) - 3? pretty cramp at 1,2 column ~~uhh check timestamp?~~ nevermind fixed
02:51:607 (171607|1) - 1? more balanced notes ~~check this one too~~ ^

thank mod for

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-04-09T05:59:53+00:00

too many separated & lost chat logs smh
but basically we've polished the map by a little, ghost note and what not, fixed general stuff, KUDOSU GIVEN 3 TIMES FOR 1 PERSON AAAA (kudosu moderation in 2k18 smh), checked this map thoroughly and this should be good to go again!

nominated! good luck <3

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-04-09T07:20:49+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
too many separated & lost chat logs smh
but basically we've polished the map by a little, ghost note and what not, fixed general stuff, KUDOSU GIVEN 3 TIMES FOR 1 PERSON AAAA (kudosu moderation in 2k18 smh), checked this map thoroughly and this should be good to go again!

nominated! good luck <3

yyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssss

Rivals_7

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Rivals_7 2018-04-10T15:25:26+00:00

oof

(E, B4N Adv) 01:52:507 - vocal? should be on 1/2. conflicted with rave's

(E) 02:57:307 (177307|1) - ^

else ok

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-04-11T05:22:30+00:00

kindly reminds me to use manual checking over modding tools for hitsound dependency

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-04-11T14:12:12+00:00

nani random pop that i wasn't aware of?!

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-04-13T06:55:29+00:00

Rivals_7 wrote:
oof

(E, B4N Adv) 01:52:507 - vocal? should be on 1/2. conflicted with rave's

(E) 02:57:307 (177307|1) - ^

else ok

all fixed

Rivals_7

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Rivals_7 2018-04-27T21:49:25+00:00

ye

@next bn might want to recheck back about the use of LNs in 4 lowest diff. just in case i missed some

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-04-29T12:50:00+00:00

aite, recheck as rival's suggested

[Easy]
01:15:757 (75757|3) - should be like (with kekk hs) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10830555

[Normal]
01:15:907 - missing kek

[Advanced]
01:41:407 (101407|0,101482|1,101557|3,101632|2) - i'd suggest to change into note, gap between normal is kinda ehh

top diffs already good

ByeForNow

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ByeForNow 2018-04-30T03:28:52+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
[Advanced]
01:41:407 (101407|0,101482|1,101557|3,101632|2) - i'd suggest to change into note, gap between normal is kinda ehhd
I see what you mean, accepted

Raveille

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Raveille 2018-04-30T15:02:23+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
[Normal]
01:15:907 - missing kek

I like the big succ. Done.

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-04-30T18:20:13+00:00

Arzenvald wrote:
aite, recheck as rival's suggested

[Easy]
01:15:757 (75757|3) - should be like (with kekk hs) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10830555 ok

top diffs already good

yes yes yes qual qual qual yes yes yes

Arzenvald

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Arzenvald 2018-05-01T11:57:57+00:00

rival's veto : ok
aimod : ok
tag : ok, all GD listed

other things been checked through my previous icon, nothing major changed except that unused file in folder. p/6574359

p/6599450 last bubble, no major change, so i give you my heart ~

good luck!

booty

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booty 2018-05-08T23:16:19+00:00

woohoo finally ranked

riunosk

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riunosk 2018-05-11T12:55:56+00:00

booty wrote:
woohoo finally ranked

yay

Void Dominator

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Void Dominator 2018-05-16T02:59:00+00:00

This song is so gud man.
Nightcores are the best.
THe original is kinda gothic imo, like it very much
Keep up the good work!

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