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Jun Senoue - Westopolis

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theMikeAG
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 2:23:08 PM

Artist: Jun Senoue
Title: Westopolis
Source: Shadow the Hedgehog
Tags: Sonic Sega Hero Dark Neutral Level Theme
BPM: 165.5
Filesize: 2905kb
Play Time: 01:18
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.25 stars, 61 notes)
  2. Hard (4.78 stars, 164 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 203 notes)
  4. Normal (3.77 stars, 83 notes)
Download: Jun Senoue - Westopolis
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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The Shadow Heads I'm using for my Life Bar were created by DP and are currently hosted on Spriter's Resource. Also, the custom hitsound I'm using was borrowed from the TWEWY skin. I just wanted to give credit where credit's due. ^_^

Special Thanks to animask, who made a guest difficulty I didn't use. Be sure to check out his map Suburban Tram. It's awesome. http://osu.ppy.sh/b/93564

~Latest Update~ November 15th
Applied IceBeam's 2nd Mod. Hopefully, this is all done.

~Current Progress~
Final Modding and MAT/BAT Searching.

~Wanna help?~
MOD, MOD, MOD.
Fight69
Okay, let's go !

[General]

Your combo colors are way too dark, it's really hard to see the circles with this bg and these combo colors :/
Also, your mp3's bitrate is 320kbps, which is not rankable.
So here's a new one for you ! (192 kbps)

http://puu.sh/1sUL (Right click => Save as...)

The new offset is : 11632

[Hard]

01:12:649 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing seems a bit messed up here

Well, I guess that's all
~Starz'd !
Lalarun
[Hard]
00:14:713 (1) - remove new combo
00:15:257 (3) - new combo
00:17:613 (1) - remove new combo
00:18:157 (3) - new combo
00:20:514 (1) - remove new combo
00:21:057 (2) - new combo?
00:49:335 (1) - add finish?
00:50:786 (2) - ^
00:55:136 (1) - ^
00:56:586 (2) - ^
00:58:036 (1) - ^
01:00:937 (4) - add whistle?
01:02:387 (1) - ^
01:03:837 (1) - add finish?
01:06:737 (1) - add whistle?
01:08:187 (1) - ^
01:12:538 (6) - add finish?
01:18:338 (3) - ^

star~!!
Shiirn

theMikeAG wrote:

A far better solution would be to edit the .wav file to quiet it down. If anybody knows a good, free program to do this with, I would be very happy.
Audacity.

The colors for the notes are a bit dark, they're hard to see with the bg you are using. Consider using other colors (PM me in-game for ideas)
Remove Shadow the Hedgehog from source. Source is only used as a reference from the direct game or show it comes from (if the game is literally named "Shadow the Hedgehog", and this is a bgm, ignore me)
You need more hitsounds. And, of course, more difficulties.


Note: When I say "New combo", i generally mean "move the nearest new combo to this note".

00:12:357 (4) - new combo
00:33:202 (5) - Move the new combo here.
IceBeam
As Shiirn and Fight69 already mentioned - black combo colours merges with BG,so gotta say black approachcircles are almost invisible..change it,please.

[Hard]
00:34:834 (1) - Cymbals are clearely heard in the song,but adding finish causes drowning next hitsound,so probably it's better to leave it empty,yeah.
00:55:136 (1) - Add finish?
01:05:287 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:09:819 (1,2) - Such patterns bug me a lot.While playing,I can't guess if there'll be another repeat or there's half-beat space.

Hitsounds are good to me.Good choice for custom clap,and even default whistles fits really well.The only thing - I'd search for custom finish hitsound.Default one is a bit rough to me.

No more problems,good job.
Star~
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

IceBeam wrote:

As Shiirn and Fight69 already mentioned - black combo colours merges with BG,so gotta say black approachcircles are almost invisible..change it,please. Dang it. Still too dark? I'll tweak it some more.

[Hard]
00:34:834 (1) - Cymbals are clearely heard in the song,but adding finish causes drowning next hitsound,so probably it's better to leave it empty,yeah.
00:55:136 (1) - Add finish? Actually, an earlier mod I had suggested that I put a finisher on both repeaters, but I felt that I was using finish too much, so I removed it from this note. I've removed the finish on 00:56:586 (2) instead.
01:05:287 (1) - Remove new combo. Thanks. Done.
01:09:819 (1,2) - Such patterns bug me a lot.While playing,I can't guess if there'll be another repeat or there's half-beat space. I don't know how to fix this right now... I'll add it to the help me section.

Hitsounds are good to me.Good choice for custom clap,and even default whistles fits really well.The only thing - I'd search for custom finish hitsound.Default one is a bit rough to me. I'll look for a new finish hitsound, thanks for the advice and the compliment. It took me more effort than I would like to admit to get that hit-sound.

No more problems,good job.
Star~
Thanks for the mod!!!
Pereira006
hi

mod4mod

you have 1 only diff -_-

so here my mod just only suggestions

[hard]

-1HP drain ?

00:21:601 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ?
00:24:502 (2) - grid 1 left?
00:25:227 (3) - grid 1 left?
00:31:027 (4) - grid 1 right?
00:34:834 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this
SPOILER
384,112,34834,6,0,B|424:120|424:160,1,70,0|8
344,264,35378,2,0,B|352:304|320:328,1,70,0|8
200,296,35922,2,0,B|167:320|135:296,2,70,0|8|12
96,224,36647,2,0,B|56:208|64:168,1,70,0|8
128,56,37190,2,0,B|136:16|176:16,1,70,0|8
If you like this so Disable DS and 00:37:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Grid 1 Dowm and enable DS (sorry my poor english)
00:43:535 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ?
01:15:619 (1) - weird slider
01:18:520 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ?

that all
i can´t find wrong
and sorry my poor english

star and good luck
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

Pereira006 wrote:

hi

mod4mod

you have 1 only diff -_- Yes I do. Normal is on the way though.

so here my mod just only suggestions

[hard]

-1HP drain ? Done

00:21:601 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ? Done
00:24:502 (2) - grid 1 left? Nah. This repeater is symmetrical.
00:25:227 (3) - grid 1 left? ^
00:31:027 (4) - grid 1 right? Fixed. Good call.
00:34:834 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this No way. Last time I tried to use one of these, I nearly corrupted my entire map. I'm going to play it safe if you don't mind.
SPOILER
384,112,34834,6,0,B|424:120|424:160,1,70,0|8
344,264,35378,2,0,B|352:304|320:328,1,70,0|8
200,296,35922,2,0,B|167:320|135:296,2,70,0|8|12
96,224,36647,2,0,B|56:208|64:168,1,70,0|8
128,56,37190,2,0,B|136:16|176:16,1,70,0|8
If you like this so Disable DS and 00:37:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Grid 1 Dowm and enable DS (sorry my poor english)
00:43:535 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ? Done.
01:15:619 (1) - weird slider ...Yeah, this is kind of weird, but it's meant to follow 01:14:351 (3). I'll consider changing it.
01:18:520 (1) - remove Finish and add Whistle ? Done

that all
i can´t find wrong
and sorry my poor english

star and good luck
Thanks for the mod!
Kurosanyan
[General]
  1. Preview time isn't the same, fix it.
  2. Add countdown?
  3. Offset: Try -5~-15ms.
[Normal]
  1. 00:13:807 (4,1) - Little spacing error here, fix it?
  2. 00:19:607 (5) - Remove a repeat and start the spinner at 00:20:332 - ?
  3. 00:23:777 (1) - Add a repeat?
  4. 00:29:577 (1) - ^
  5. 01:03:474 (4) - whistle here?
  6. 01:18:338 (1) - Add a finish?
[Hard]
  1. OD is too high imo, how about -1?
  2. 00:31:934 (1) - Move it so it's not under the previous slider?
  3. 00:33:202 (5,6) - Try to fix spacing?
  4. 01:18:338 (1) - Add a finish?
That's all! The hard is really fun and the clap sound <3 Have a star!
Xeno_old
Well

Pretty awesome mapset.

As I mentioned in IRC, you might need a easy difficulty between 1.50-2.00 stars. Otherwise the mapset will not be rank-able. Of course, this isn't a ironclad rule, and they might let it slide. But just mentioning it here too.

Also, both your diffs have tons of unsnapped objects. Just click on "Timings -> Resnap all objects" Just make sure you snap divisor is on 1/4.

Also for hard

00:58:573 (4) - remove all whisltes, it sounds a lot better IMO.
01:04:381 (4) - ^ same as above.

and that's about it.

A very solid beatmap. If you decide not to add a easy diff, I'd start MAT hunting if I where you. I think this is close to perfection. All extra mods will be just nitpicking, the core of the map is rock solid! Once again, good job!

Star
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

Xeno wrote:

Well

Pretty awesome mapset.

As I mentioned in IRC, you might need a easy difficulty between 1.50-2.00 stars. Otherwise the mapset will not be rank-able. Of course, this isn't a ironclad rule, and they might let it slide. But just mentioning it here too. I hope I don't need to make an easy. It would be very boring. THIS is not a boring song. :J

Also, both your diffs have tons of unsnapped objects. Just click on "Timings -> Resnap all objects" Just make sure you snap divisor is on 1/4. LOL. I can't believe that I forgot to resnap my notes after changing the offset. Heck, I even changed the inheriting sections and I still forgot.

Also for hard

00:58:573 (4) - remove all whisltes, it sounds a lot better IMO.
01:04:381 (4) - ^ same as above. Good Call. This should also make Taiko mode a little more reasonable.

and that's about it.

A very solid beatmap. If you decide not to add a easy diff, I'd start MAT hunting if I where you. I think this is close to perfection. All extra mods will be just nitpicking, the core of the map is rock solid! Once again, good job!

Star
Thanks for the mod! I've got one more difficulty to map before going for ranking though. Hard isn't quite "Insane" enough, if you know what I mean. :J
Sleep Powder
[Normal]

00:20:507 (1) - Finish hitsound instead?
00:26:126 (4) - Make it so the slider doesn't touch the next circle.
00:37:727 (1) - Clap on repeat
00:39:177 (2) - Remove clap
00:49:328 (1,2) - ^


[Hard]

00:37:727 (1,2) - ^ (lulz) just a hitsound suggestion

Everything else seems fine.

(Can I make a guest difficulty?)

Starr'd
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

animask wrote:

[Normal]

(Can I make a guest difficulty?)

Starr'd
Thanks for your mod! If you want, you could make an easy for me. I've already got an Insane in the works and Medi-chan is making a taiko map so... Do as you will. ;)
Sleep Powder

theMikeAG wrote:

animask wrote:

[Normal]

(Can I make a guest difficulty?)

Starr'd
Thanks for your mod! If you want, you could make an easy for me. I've already got an Insane in the works and Medi-chan is making a taiko map so... Do as you will. ;)

Dang. I wanted to do insane cuz I had an awesome hitsound idea. I'll try to make something work with Easy.


EDIT: I win this time star rating~! 2.5

Download: Jun Senoue - Westopolis (theMikeAG) [animask's Easy].osu
TheVileOne
General
What is up with all these scoreboard.png files? If you're not using them remove them and full submit.



Normal

00:26:126 (4) - Move up 1 unit??

00:31:927 (4,5,6) - Make spacings equal please.
00:51:141 (3,1,2) - ^

00:58:029 (1) - I'm not sure i like this finish.

Alright difficulty.


Hard

00:23:770 (1) - Only have whistle in the center. Remove it from the start.
00:24:495 (2) - Add whistle to first repeat, 2nd, repeat and end ?
There are some parts where the hitsounds can be improved, but how is up to you.

00:34:827 (1,2,3) - I don't like this transition. It looks weird and feels slow.

01:08:180 (1,2,3) - Approach circles are really hard to see for this stack




I see nothing really wrong with the difficulties so star.
Elly-chan
Nice Map, Short and Sweet Is The Way To Go :)

HARD
00:58:557 ~ Make this straight or curved up, it looks kinda weird curved down. :l

... *looks over this beatmap again*... Woah. Why Can't I see Any More Flaws? Because this is pure awesomeness. = w= I wish I could give you more mods, but sadly i cant because its too good and I suck at spotting things T_T GJ and GL with eventually getting this ranked :D

Star~ :D
Kite
[Timing]
I get offset 11.629

[Normal]
00:13:800 (4) - Remove the return here? Sounds a bit better imo
01:14:344 (1) - Perhaps use a slider for this spinner, it's quite short and the next slider appears in the middle after a very short time spinning

[Hard]
00:43:528 (1) - End this spinner here maybe 00:46:066? Having a spinner and then 1/2 is next beat is not so great imo, you can add a beat here then 00:46:428 instead.

Nice mapset, insane diff should be crazy :P good luck with it.
Oh maybe you can change the black combo color to something else since it makes some combos hard to see, 01:09:091 (2) - for example.
Daru
Overall, very solid maps. Here are just suggestions, though you should take care of the empty .osb file and the timing section for tidiness' sake.

[Normal]
00:29:212 (-) - Place a note here
00:31:931 (4,5,6) - This sequence felt a bit off from the music
What is the purpose for the inherited timing section at 01:09:635?

[Hard]
00:23:774 (1,2) - Make these two sliders symmetrical, as in copy+paste and mirror (2) to make (1).

[General]
Delete the empty .osb.
Lightgazer
Took a bit time sorry

General
A Custom Spinner with Black/Red like Shadows colors would be awesome
Same with the Scorebar
Easy would be good here too
Delete the osb file if not used

Normal

00:26:130 (4) New combo?
00:31:931 (4) ^?
00:49:332 (1,2,3) Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/2pkW
01:12:535 (1) hm maybe like this? its less confusing http://puu.sh/2pkX
01:17:248 (3) 1 grid down

Hard
Maybe Increase Distance here?

00:13:804 (1) remove new combo
00:14:710 (9) new combo
00:15:254 (1) remove new combo
00:16:704 (1) remove new combo
00:17:610 (9) new combo
00:18:154 (1) remove new combo
00:19:604 (1) remove new combo
00:20:511 (7) new combo
00:21:054 (1) remove new combo
00:35:919 (6) hm new combo here? not sure
00:41:719 (6) same here

Guess Thats it Nice song you choose to map :)
Tell me when your Insane is done i would check that too then.
Good luck!
NotShinta
General:
  1. I'd say your dark grey colour is a bit too close to the BG, and makes the approach circles blend in a bit. You could make it lighter, but that wouldn't contrast with the other grey well. Hmm. Perhaps removing it would be the best solution. Or keeping it. Your choice.
  2. It'd be lovely if you made an Easy to go with this mapset. Especially if you're making an Insane, which appears to be the case.
Hard:
00:56:583 (2) - I'd stick a finish at the repeat of this slider.

Normal:
00:25:586 (3) - Replace the whistle with a finish? I kind of like finishes.
00:27:943 (3) - I hated this at first, then I realised why it was there and thought it was brilliant.
01:03:471 (4) - I wouldn't hide hitcircles under sliders in an easiest difficulty, especially when they could read as be 1/2 away from the slider.
01:08:003 (3) - Move this a grid3grid down or two.

I'll happily mod this again when/if you get your other difficulties up.

Also you're the first to witness my blue for positive things and listed general section whee
p3n
[General]
You need a <three star diff (or some MAT/BAT friends) to be rankable
I know a Shadow map should use black and red combo colours but your black/grey combo colour is extremely hard to see against the backgroundimage. I suggest deleting the white combo colour (4) and lighten up the black/grey a bit more. Maybe turn the yellow into a warmer yellow/gold-tone (like 253/215/0 in RGB) as it seems to fit a lot better.
Hitsounds could use some work as they don't have enough "pump" for this song imo.

[Normal]
00:37:731 (1,2,3) - spacing, nothing serious though.
Good map :)

[Hard]
Spacing seems a bit inconsistent here. Did you map in 0,8 or 0,9 or 1,0? I ranges from 0,84x to 0,97x. Nothing gamebreaking since your circle size is surely big enough. It just "looks" weird in some places (like 00:58:033 (1,2,3,4,5,1))
00:42:444 (9,10,11,12) - maybe use 2 sliders for those? if not you should do something else with these circles like add jumps (max 1,8x spacing, I'd prefer 1,4x-1,5x) between 9,10 and 11,12
00:48:245 (3,4,5,6) - again maybe add jumps between the pairs
Other than that pretty good work. Only some sliders and patterns could use some beauty-work (disable gridsnapping and curve sliders exactly around circles where this applies).


Nice work!
~star
Topic Starter
theMikeAG
Fine. You got me. I'll make an easy.
Lanttu
The custom whistle sounds really... weird. Doesn't fit in the song in my opinion.. TuT Also, it's too loud compared to background music anyways.

[Insane]
00:22:867 (8) - New combo because of the speed change at least?
01:00:934 (10) - New combo?
01:02:384 (14/5) - ^
01:06:734 (10) - ^
01:08:184 (14/5) - ^
01:10:903 (6) - ^
01:12:172 (5) - I'd really prefer if this ended to the red tick before
01:17:973 (9) - ^

[Hard]
00:14:166 (8) - this slider sounds a bit weird to me when I clearly hear a note on the red tick in the middle.. ;u;
00:18:154 (3) - Maybe rotate the end of this slider so that it points down right? Would look better to me.
00:35:919 (6) - New combo?
00:41:719 (6) - ^
00:48:245 (3) - ^
00:53:320 (6) - ^

[Normal]
00:58:033 (1) - Quite soon after the spinner in easiest diff. Maybe end the spinner at a previous white tick?

Otherwise and overall looks good, have my star~ :3
KingKrishna
NORMAL
-no snapping problems good :D
-nice looking map :D

-at 00:26:130 the slider in my mind looks :|
better with this instead of the old silder
just copy the slider at 00:24:449 and
ctrl J it and ctrl H if u want.


SPOILER
Before





After

-to make it a little harder on 00:43:532 end it at 00:46:704:|



HARD

Spacing Problem :(
00:46:432 try doing this





INSANE

There are some spacing errors in this :"( 22 to be exact .. look in the AiMod in files and try fixing them the best you can . the less there are the better it is :D.



Overall

Like the map! just need to fix some things and thats it

STARR for nice song and nice map
Zelos
I'm happy to finally get back to modding after 6 days.

(that is gonna hurt me in the long run)

Anyways, folder check:
All good here.

Normal:
00:27:943 (3) - the way you used soft hitsounding on this slider sounds so wierd. Suggestion: Remove the slider tick whistle?
00:33:743 (3) - ^^
01:04:922 (3,4) - this slider and note are touching. possible fix?

Hard:
00:17:067 (8) - turn on grid 4 and move this to the left 1? it fits more snug under the previous slider.
01:00:934 (4) - try to make this slider a bit more round? its just a bit ugly in its current condition.
01:13:804 (1) - remove new combo?

Insane:
00:18:698 (4,5,6,7,8) - this random spacing decreasing was sort of random and does not fit. it almost confused me for a 1/4th stream actually but i will let you decide on that one.
00:22:867 (1) - woah random speed increase. May i suggest a sb'ed speed up warning?
00:46:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - random spacing decrease again.
01:09:635 (1,2,3,4,5) - again random spacing decrease.


Sorry if the mod was cruddy. haven't done in in almost a week.

Star.
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

Zelos wrote:

I'm happy to finally get back to modding after 6 days.

(that is gonna hurt me in the long run) Thanks for modding my map anyway. :D

Anyways, folder check:
All good here.

Normal:
00:27:943 (3) - the way you used soft hitsounding on this slider sounds so wierd. Suggestion: Remove the slider tick whistle? Sure. I guess.
00:33:743 (3) - ^^
01:04:922 (3,4) - this slider and note are touching. possible fix? Fixed.
Hard:
00:17:067 (8) - turn on grid 4 and move this to the left 1? it fits more snug under the previous slider. Thanks, it looks nice.
01:00:934 (4) - try to make this slider a bit more round? its just a bit ugly in its current condition. Fixed.
01:13:804 (1) - remove new combo? Done.

Insane:
00:18:698 (4,5,6,7,8) - this random spacing decreasing was sort of random and does not fit. it almost confused me for a 1/4th stream actually but i will let you decide on that one. I tried to go for "staircase stack" here. Similar to this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/100855. I guess I'll just remap.
00:22:867 (1) - woah random speed increase. May i suggest a sb'ed speed up warning? I added a similar speed up to 00:17:067 (9) to make this less random.
00:46:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - random spacing decrease again. I'll remap.
01:09:635 (1,2,3,4,5) - again random spacing decrease. Ditto.


Sorry if the mod was cruddy. haven't done in in almost a week.

Star.
Thanks for modding. Also, your mod was good. I needed someone to look over my Insane.
NotShinta
Insane:
It feels like a lot of your combos are a lot longer than need be. Perhaps for forced difficulty, which isn't quite nice.
00:17:067 (9) - Due to the lack of ticks, this isn't isn't a readable speed up.
00:22:867 (8) - This speedup feels a bit abrupt.
That said, I don't like the speed ups and slow downs much at all. I find the slow downs, especially, break the flow the map has going for it.
00:31:024 (10) - (+ctrlcv) These jumps just look bad and seem to be the result of lazy pattern making. I would keep 8,9,10 consistently spaced, like in this example.
00:46:432 (1,3) - Avoidable overlap is avoidable. I would move (1) up 2 grid4grids, and (2) and (4) up 1 grid4grid.
01:19:604 (7,8) - Add whistle hitsounds?

Easy:
00:13:079 (3) - Add a whistle?
00:37:006 (3) - I would add a dogtwewywhistlething here for flow improvement. (+similar)
01:08:909 (6) - Put a finish on this?

No kudosu because I got some for the last one, and because this is mostly boring and hitsoundardly.
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

NotShinta wrote:

No kudosu because I got some for the last one, and because this is mostly boring and hitsoundardly.
Whoops. :o
Ekaru
General:

-Move the offset to 00:027. You want your offset to be on the first long white line present in the music.

Insane:

00:17:067 (9) - Can you make the middle part of this slider be perfectly horizontal? It'd look better I think
00:22:686 (7) - I had trouble seeing this repeat. Then again I just woke up

Hard:

00:13:622 (4) - This is majorly covered up by the HP Bar
01:04:378 (4) - This seems out of place on this difficulty

Normal:

00:28:487 (4) - This feels weird. Maybe have it start on the next beat?
00:29:574 (1) - This feels weird. I would have it start 1/2 earlier and add another repeat, and then adjust for spacing

Easy:

00:16:704 (2) - This sliderend gets covered up
01:00:571 (4,5) - The overlap isn't pretty ATM
01:06:371 (4,5) - ^
01:09:634 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - The pattern you use here, all 3 times, is way too hard for an Easy. You're covering up the hit circle... with the slider's other end, no less. Please redo this part so the hit circles are a lot more visible. Thank you.

Star
Genkishi
AUTO Misses in Insane!?

[Insane]
00:31:930 (1)-delete note
00:34:830 (1)-delete note
01:07:640 (2)-delete note
Topic Starter
theMikeAG
Holy cow... I guess Ekaru's offset suggestion screwed up my inherited sections. Those notes you pointed out aren't normally impossible, my beatmap was just glitching out like crazy!
Azure_Kite
Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

Those Custom Hitwhistles sound like a certain effect from the World Ends With You Skin. Am I wrong? please reference this.

The Health Bar is great :D

[Easy]

It's an easy. nice use of custom hitsounds here.

[Normal]

00:33:743 (3) - This looks pretty, but it would work quite a lot better if it finished 1/2 a beat earlier.

Other than that, nothing to see here.

[Hard]

Surprisingly not much to point out in this (Not that your a bad mapper, it's just the majority of issues are in Hard/insane Maps)

Good job with this one :)

[Insane

I'd suggest lowering HP Drain by one level, as if you make a miss, well, there's half your HP Missing xD The map itself is darn sexy, though.

All in all, quite a pleasant map. Please take note of referencing where you get hitsounds, but apart from that, great job :D
iPown3G
Alright. First of all i really like your map / diffs.

Insane:
If i were you i'd put those notes that are hid by a slider somewhere where you can see them better (example 00:48:425), but they're O.K.
Sometimes there's too much symmetry instead of flow for the player (00:15:797 - 00:17:428)
Additionally I would turn the HP-drain rate down by 1.

Hard:
Same like the Insane-diff. The notes that got overlapped... It's playable but annoying, too.
01:03:108 - 01:04:921 seems to be a bit too confusing to me, and again there are those overlapped notes... ;)

Normal & Easy:
Well. There's nothing i'd change so far. good work.
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Those Custom Hitwhistles sound like a certain effect from the World Ends With You Skin. Am I wrong? please reference this.
Yep, the scratch sounds are from the TWEWY skin. I think I'll credit that skin from this point on, to avoid confusion.

The Health Bar is great :D
Thanks! I made it myself! ^_^
Shiro
Hello~ request taken from #modreqs (gotta love that !request command)

Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game. :)

General
  • Seems fine.
Easy
  1. 00:34:831 (1,3) - That's quite nazi of me, but it struck me when playing: make these symmetrical ? One of their ends has a sharper curve than the other.
  2. 00:43:532 (1) - That spinner is quite short, for an Easy... And you could easily extend it more (like 2/1) should you silence the end.
  3. 01:00:934 (5) - Add a new combo here ? It will cut the (quite long) combo a bit, and make sense, since you switch from the offbeat ticks to the main ones. Also would make a "new combo every big white tick" pattern.
  4. 01:06:734 (5) - Same ?
Normal
  1. Having OD higher than AR doesn't make sense. AR is here to help read the timing window determined by OD to get a 300 or a 100 (there's a reason why they were the same setting before...). Using higher OD basically means the information is wrong.
  2. 00:29:393 (1) - For consistency with the first pattern, this should start 1/2 later and have only one repeat. It would also be less confusing imo, because kick sliders are quite confusing, since the number of repeats can't be expected, and the cursor hides the repeat arrows, which makes the number of repeats difficult to read.
  3. 00:33:743 (1) - Really too short for a spinner in a Normal. Also, why did you use a spinner here, when for this exact same melody, you used circles and sliders before ?
  4. 00:58:033 (1) - This note comes too soon after the spinner. Remember new players don't spin well and need time to readjust their aim.
Hard
  1. 00:18:154 (4,5) - This placement was quite confusing to me, and I git (5) as if it was 1/2 after (4)'s end. That's because I judged the spacing based on (4)'s beginning but not its end :x
  2. 00:37:731 (1,2) - Why are these linear when in this diff (and the other ones) you always used Bézier curves ?
  3. 00:46:432 (1) - This slider is entirely covered by the text that pops out after the spinner. Although it does appear before said text pops out, the text covers all the repeats after the first one.
  4. 01:08:184 (1,2,3) - Due to stacking, this pattern looks rather bad in-game (2) is moved to the upper left). Unstack (2,3) ?
Insane
  1. HP drain is really harsh. I sliderbroke twice and died because of it.
  2. The speedup sections are extremely surprising, despite the ticks.
  3. So are the slow down ones, but that's because the sliders have the same length as the previous ones... but are twice as long in time.
Oh, also, if animask made a diff, it'd be a good idea to link it in the main post. =o
I wanted to mod it but didn't find any link and forgot about it. ><
- Suima -
GREAT!

EASY:
1:14:711 isn't snapped
1:15:436 ^

That's all. There's no question in other map.
Melan Blue
omgomgomgomg Westopolis *^* I love this stage music... ~memories xD~
I coulnd't resist:

General
"ost" in Tags?
Disable countdown?
I really want to hear more Claps ;3;

Easy
I think its tooo easy. So here's my suggestions.
00:13:440 - add a note?
00:19:241 - ^
00:40:268 - ^
00:42:443 - ^
00:51:869 - ^
00:54:045 - ^
01:00:208 - ^
01:06:008 - ^
01:12:172 - ^
01:15:072 - ^
btw, keep this diff, its very good^^

Hard
00:55:132 - add whistle
00:56:582 - ^

Insane
00:29:030 - add finish
00:34:830 - ^
01:09:634 - ^

Good luck~ :D
Deif
Here we go~

Easy:
  1. 00:20:511 (1) - This spin is really close to (5) imo. Start it at 00:20:691, for example?
Normal:
  1. 00:31:205 (3) - The melody suggests to make this slider with 1 repetition.
Hard:
  1. Really liked the flow of this diffy.
  2. 00:55:132 (1) - Try this slider:
    SPOILER
    320,240,55133,6,0,B|420:212|328:96|416:72,2,210,2|2|8
  3. 00:56:582 (2) - If you liked it, copy and ctrl-H it here.
Insane:
  1. 00:52:413 (2,3) - That spacing was intentional?
  2. 00:55:676 (2,3,4,5) - Try to do something different instead of only stacking?
  3. 00:57:126 (2,3,4,5) - ^
  4. 00:58:214 (2,3) - Same as the preview spacing issue.
  5. 01:04:014 (2,3) - ^
Overall, mapset is pretty nice... most of the post are just suggestions. Good luck~
Shulin
General:

-- I'm not going to nazi but there are a few notes that are off by a grid or two like 00:15:797 (6) - on insane (up 1 square blah blah), you can go through and check for them if you care xD
-- For the spinner at the end of each diff I think you should reduce the volume to about 50%
-- The custom hitsounds are excellent imo, good work ^_^

Easy:

00:34:830 (1) - Finish the start?
00:37:005 (2) - I think this ntoe might be hard for new players to follow (it doesn't follow the guitar or anything prominent in the song) so maybe add a return to 00:34:830 (1) - ?
00:37:730 (3) - ^
00:42:807 (4) - ^ Same thing, maybe a slider at 00:42:807 (4) - ?
00:48:607 (2) - ^ etc

Normal:

00:34:286 (4) - Finish the end? =P
00:55:133 (1) - End at 00:57:126 and add a note at 00:57:670 - ?
01:01:840 (2) - Clap?
01:07:641 (2) - ^
01:09:635 (1) - Finish start?

Hard:

00:34:831 (1) - Finish for kiai?
00:47:520 (2) - Remove the finish from the end?
00:49:332 (1) - Custom tick sounds weird here, silence it?
01:00:934 (4) - ^
01:04:015 (2,3,4,1) - This is a bit clustered imo and might play better and be easier to read if you spaced it out.
01:10:903 (2) - Move this up a little so it doesn't overlap with 01:09:272 (3,1) - ?

Insane:

-- I love the flow of this diff.

00:34:830 (1) - Add finish? (It starts the kiai quite nicely imo)
01:04:376 (4) - The return is kinda hidden, maybe make it face upwards (it slots in nicely with the next too slider too)
01:09:634 (1) - Finish?

Good map, hope it get's ranked. Star!
Ijah_old
Very good map~

Didn't find that much really.

Insane:
00:58:033 (1,2,3) - This pattern looks a bit ugly, reposition note 1 and 2 to form a symmetrical triangle?
01:03:833 (1) - ^
01:06:552 (9) - Remove the stack and position like this? http://puu.sh/4Z2q feels better imo.
Hard:
<!-- Increase HP drain by one? -->
01:17:791 - Add note following the circle pattern here?
Easy:

00:43:168 - add clap note here
00:54:770 - ^

All seems well IMO, probably time for a MAT/BAT/Bubble or whatever they are now.
D33d
[General]

Seems to have a good feel. I'd playtest it, but I don't feel like sitting up on my bed and stimulating my brain like that at this time.

I'm not sure about using Kiai time in this map, as the track sounds fairly consistent thoughout.

[Easy]

00:23:733 (1) I think that Easy players might find such a short slider to be awkward and I'm certainly not too sure if I like it. Either way, place a single circle where this ends. AImod bitches about the proximity of this to end of the spinner and I agree with it in this case. The spinner's long, so the extra recovery time would help the player. Also, I just think that the one circle on the beat feels better.

00:26:673 (2) Instead of these short sliders, why not place two circles on the white ticks after (1)? I think that this would feel and fit the music better anyway.

00:29:573 (2) Same thing.

00:32:474 (2) Same thing. AAAAAHA!

00:55:132 (1) Finish this spinner at the start of the next bar and then remove (1) from the combo after it. That'd be all.

[Normal]

00:12:353 (2) I'd leave this up to you if I even had a way of forcing you to change something, but I think that turning this into a two-note stack would be nice. It'd match what you do a few bars later and this consistency would be good for a Normal.

00:25:948 (4) I'd stack this on top of (1), as long as I could make the pattern after it work. To me, this overlap is awkward.


[Hard]

01:04:377 (4;1) Having this goig over itself in such a tight space could be awkward to some. Leave it if there's no other way in which you can think of arranging this.

00:59:483 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
01:00:933 (4) Place a new combo, I'd say.
01:04:921 (3) Remove new combo, I'd say.
01:06:733 (6) Place a new combo, I'd say.

[INSANOFLEX] Whoo; bad ATHF references

00:24:498 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
00:27:398 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
00:42:443 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
00:46:341 (1,2,3,4[5]) I'm not a huge fan of how these overlap. Fix this is you can.
00:51:144 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
00:54:045 (1) Remove new combo, I'd say.
00:56:582 (1) Same.
01:02:383 (1) Same.
01:08:184 (1) Same.
01:09:634 (1,2,3,4,5) Bordering on not liking the layout of this either. Just seems a litte cluttered and tight.
01:10:903 (1) Remove new combo perhaps!
I like this. I might as well star it while I'm here. Good work!
Vergence
Easy
....Flawless :)

Normal
01:09:634 (1) - Maybe move this nearer ? To me, it would seem 1 and a half ticks away instead :o

Hard
To my opinion, maybe there's too many overlaps? I dunno :o

Insane
HP Drain +1 ?
00:17:066 (9) - Beautify it :)?
00:23:410 (1) - Centre it
00:26:129 (1,2) - ^
00:51:188 (9) - Place this in the same position as (5)
______________________________________________
Nice work~ :D
I love the game since I was a kid :)
Ahhh~
I too have mapped a Sonic song too ~
Take a look if you want to~
Where the star button :(?
Topic Starter
theMikeAG
Hooray! Westopolis has hit 50 Stars! We've got to celebrate! How?

...RANK THIS.

Nah, just kidding. Mostly.
S h i o n
Hi ~
I am noob so I can't find many things.T.T

[Easy]
fine

[Normal]
Some notes on red lines are not so clear (I mean rhythm) for normal,such as 00:25:586 (3,4)

[Hard]
00:16:523 (8) - some grids down
00:17:610 (1,2,3) - not parallel may be better. so as 00:19:242 (6,7,8)
00:21:597 (1) - end to 00:22:866
00:23:229 (x) - add one note

[Insane]
01:09:090 (7,8) - change their places

Good luck for ranking ~
DarkDunskin
General:
- Be sure to delete a few bookmarks next update, these are pretty much o.0
- Delete .osb (running gag)
- There are no grave errors at your map so I'm just gonna Nazi around a bit and give you a star at the end.

Easy is just fine.

Normal:
- 01:11:447 (3) - hm better shape it like this

Hard:
- 00:13:079 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Would be nicer if this were symmetrical, cause 2,6 aren't. Crtl+h 2 to check.
- 00:42:444 (4,5) - Slider 5 isn't really beautiful. How about re-arranging them to this?
- 00:46:432 (1,2) - I'd stretch these ones a bit more.
- 01:09:091 (2,3,1) - Clustered notes are clustered. Try this instead.
- 01:12:715 - Personally I don't like this idea of mapping along the sliders shape so close, you should try to get some distance between them.

I believe you should have taken a higher Distance Snap Rate from the start here, but whats done is done i guess.
It plays fine anyway.

Insane:
- 00:39:543 (6) - Funny: Put that slider point one grid up to achieve a symmetrical Slider.

Finally someone who likes symmetrical patterns too~
Amazing Job on the hitsounding in every diff! It just sound so nice and fits very well to the song too.
So much Effort needs to be rewarded - Get that map bubbled lol
Topic Starter
theMikeAG
:( Please Rank This... I'm sick of worrying about this stupid map, and I'm gonna feel so much better when I don't have to worry about it anymore. PLEASE. MATs? BATs? I'm so lonely...
IceBeam
yo,mats are finally here '3'

first of all,shouldn't the source be Shadow the Hedgehog? not a big deal though,I've checked other Sonic related maps and there were both lower and uppercases,but if you can find a correct info from the original source - it'd be awesome

and scorebar-colour files don't differ that much,are you sure you need all of them? you could use only scorebar-colour.png file and it'd be fine

also,second Kiai should end at 01:09:634,as in Insane..so make sure to fix all other difficulties
and you had another fountain within second Kiai in all diffs except Easy,add it at 01:03:833?

the next thing stack leniency in Insane,set it to 4 at the very least please

and finally SV in Easy.it's the only difficulty with 1,though it makes sense as you use custom tick hitsounds,and SV2 would be awkward..so I suggest to set 1 on all diffs,but it's up to you.I believe it's rankable to have different SVs within mapset

[Easy]
OD -1 as you have 3 more harder difficulties?

00:11:629 (1) - normal finish would be great
00:34:830 (1) - too far,fix distance
00:40:632 (1) - finish?
00:41:718 (2) - claps sound annoying with this music,change to default whistle or remove hitsound at all?
00:52:232 (1) - finish?
00:53:319 (2) - again annoying clap
00:55:133 (1) - ^
01:09:634 (1) - finish?

[Normal]
00:11:629 (1) - finish again?
00:19:966 - a note here would be much better
00:23:774 (1) - I didn't really get this rhytm,another repeat at previous white tick (00:23:591) would be easier to read/hit imo
00:29:573 (1) - ^
00:32:474 (1) - ^
00:58:033 (1,2,3,4,1) - there's an osu! bag,when you stack 2 or more sliders - stacking doesn't occur at all..so we were asked to force mappers to fix such moments:
it's unrankable yeah..so you may unstack them manually for at least 1 grid,like this:
or do whatever you want instead
01:15:797 (1) - shorten by 1/2? it'd fit the rhytm much more

[Hard]
00:11:628 (1) - again normal finish would be cool
00:23:591 - add another repeat here?
00:29:030 (1) - finish?
00:37:731 (1) - hidden repeat,but eh..enough time to read I believe
00:57:126 - do you need this finish? :(

[Insane]
00:11:628 (1) - meh..finish?
00:23:410 (1) - flip it vertically to clear out the reverse arrow? cause it's hard to recognize it under 00:22:866 (8)-th slider,seriously
00:58:576 (4) - so many repeats were a bit unexpected,I thought there're only 2..and it sounds better anyway. so could you cut repeats at 00:58:758 and add another note to 00:58:939 (5) then
01:02:383 (5) - looks a bit wrong,shorten by 1/2?
01:04:376 (4) - again,2 repeats would be better :|
01:20:147 (1) - start it 1/2 earlier? you'll have a longer spinner and this tiny awkward space between the last note an this spinner will be removed

alright,as there're tonns of mod posts and not much to complain gameplay wise,have a star icon so far
fix general issues,please,and take a look at my suggestions
call me back if you changed anything
Topic Starter
theMikeAG

IceBeam wrote:

yo,mats are finally here '3'

first of all,shouldn't the source be Shadow the Hedgehog? not a big deal though,I've checked other Sonic related maps and there were both lower and uppercases,but if you can find a correct info from the original source - it'd be awesome
It looks like you're right, though it's hard to tell, since the title of the game is all caps.

scorebar-colour files don't differ that much,are you sure you need all of them? you could use only scorebar-colour.png file and it'd be fine
I'm keeping the scorebar files, mostly because I designed it to mimic the default skin's animation. If the animation needs to be more distinct, I could do that, but I personally think it's fine right now.

and finally SV in Easy.it's the only difficulty with 1,though it makes sense as you use custom tick hitsounds,and SV2 would be awkward..so I suggest to set 1 on all diffs,but it's up to you.I believe it's rankable to have different SVs within mapset
Geez, the custom hitsound in the other difficulties doesn't work without SV2. :(

00:23:774 (1) - I didn't really get this rhytm,another repeat at previous white tick (00:23:591) would be easier to read/hit imo
I changed this where ever I found it. It makes the previous spinner end too fast though, personally, so, I don't know.

00:58:033 (1,2,3,4,1) - there's an osu! bag,when you stack 2 or more sliders - stacking doesn't occur at all..so we were asked to force mappers to fix such moments:
Thanks for the info. They are now manually stacked.

01:15:797 (1) - shorten by 1/2? it'd fit the rhytm much more
Personally, I don't think it does. Sorry.

00:23:410 (1) - flip it vertically to clear out the reverse arrow? cause it's hard to recognize it under 00:22:866 (8)-th slider,seriously
00:58:576 (4) - so many repeats were a bit unexpected,I thought there're only 2..and it sounds better anyway. so could you cut repeats at 00:58:758 and add another note to 00:58:939 (5) then
These are both fixed. (although I had to turn the repeater on its side instead.)

These are the noteworthy things that can think of. Mostly everything else was changed. Thanks for the Mod!
IceBeam
ok then,let's check it once again

[Easy]
00:41:720 - unsnapped,next time,make sure to check AIMod for Snapping errors before updating,k? ;)

[Normal]
00:55:132 (1) - I didn't point this out earlier,as I wasn't sure about it,but you could end this spinner at 00:56:582 and add another note to 00:57:126
it sounds more right,but it'd make it much harder to read
so it's only up to you

[Insane]
00:58:939 (5) - again,just a suggestion..I'd rather stack it with 00:59:120 (6),it plays better to me

rest is fine,fix unsnapped note in Easy and think of these suggestions and you'll be ready for a bubble

Edit: mapper fixed everything,so..
bubbled
DeathxShinigami
Don't worry you're missing a ranked notification post here too ztrot.
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