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Rate the Mapping Technique - Round 46 : Drain Sections

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5 - Love Them!
22
9.32%
4 -
31
13.14%
3 -
53
22.46%
2 -
43
18.22%
1 - Hate Them!
87
36.86%
Total votes: 236
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Round 46 : Drain Sections

Nominated by SapphireGhost. Basically, sections in which a beatmap suddenly get slower or less difficult in an attempt to either match the song better or cause the HP bar to drain. This is done usually by placing less notes and/or slowing the slider speed. To illustrate this, look at the two screenshots. Both happen in the same difficulty, the second one is dramatically less difficult as the first one.

Map(s) that use this technique
Renard - Banned Forever mapped by Blue Dragon [Nogard] (02:37:144 -> 02:53:371)
nomico - Bad Apple!! mapped by James [Hard] (01:51:608 -> 02:05:521)
zts - WhiteBlue mapped by MoonFragrance [Maximum] (00:56:604 -> 01:22:854)

~Mapping Technique Nominations~
NatsumeRin
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4,032 posts
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NatsumeRin
4. i love it, but in fact don't see much could use it in a correct way.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18231
^ a much better example.
Luvdic
2,113 posts
Joined July 2009
Luvdic
Like to play them a lot, voted 4.
RandomJibberish
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1,833 posts
Joined August 2009
RandomJibberish
Uh, where it gets easier just for draining it's a 1, just stupid fake difficulty and in most cases is a symptom of setting the drain too high

When there are no hitobjects for a couple seconds, where it fits, it's a 5 - Sexy when a song goes super quiet for a short time, and it's a sensible replacement for hold sliders

So, I guess that averages as a 3? lol
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
It's ok if you match the music and don't feel like adding a pause, but if used just for difficulty then you're doing it wrong.
Mismagius
9,267 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
Basically, sections in which a beatmap suddenly get slower or less difficult in an attempt to either match the song better or cause the HP bar to drain
This is what Banned Forever was supposed to do, inb4 complaints.

Whoa first time I'm getting a map there :P

Well, I don't like them too much. Only if they really match the song. 3'd.
Gonzvlo
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Joined January 2010
Gonzvlo
I'm currently working on a song that has many places to use this technique and I have to say that it creates a nice effect so I'll give it a 4.
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
2. Failing songs when you have a 100+ combo is just stupid.
FireballFlame
280 posts
Joined May 2010
FireballFlame
I HATE passing a hard part of a map and then dying in an easy part.
When done to "cause the HP bar to drain", that's stupid.
When done to "match the song better", it should be preceded by something moderately easy, to allow going into it at full health.
theowest
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theowest
Fucking love them! DJ sharpnel, strange program! <3 <<3<3<3
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K3nsh1n_H1mur4
410 posts
Joined November 2009
K3nsh1n_H1mur4
18 people can't defeat airman (by HolyCOW).

I luv them when fits w/ the song xD
mm201
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mm201
It's so agitating when mappers add long, tick 0.5 sliders on Insanes just to drain half the HP.
qlum
481 posts
Joined October 2008
qlum
I hate it when they go on for long and you get into an unavoidable death situation long before you actually die. in my opinion those things should not exist.
Sinistro
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Sinistro
2. Easy to use incorrectly and potentially very frustrating, as it is a technique that affects the game in an unavoidable way, regardless of player skill. Can be effective if used just right, though.
Scorpiour
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Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
I suppose it is hard to say.

For example

consider the map Last Remote (by shinxyn, http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12181)

the first section has not enough notes to keep the hp full, that is , player should keep their acc over 93% to avoid fail without miss.

but, AR and OD are still the same, it means this section is just a little easier than the follows.

Maybe it's not a problem to pro, but i could be a big trouble to others.

another example is the map Shounen A (by Mystearica, http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8931)

the first section is not hard but hard to keep hp full, and the section is very hard and player will fail due to the severe contrast.
bomber34
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Joined February 2011
bomber34
5. 'cause I like challenges ;)
Minty Gum
298 posts
Joined June 2011
Minty Gum
I like a bit of variety in the speed of the song, to make it interesting. 5, but only if used correctly.
Kodora
Kodora
1

because it makes no sence if you lost hp without any reason
Alarido
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Joined September 2012
Alarido
4 if the song suggests it
1 otherwise

Also, I find Drain Sections can be used to (quickly, it might applies for the Pro) hand reposition and (also?) for a bit non-lazy recovering.
Nuuskamuikkunen
1,246 posts
Joined March 2013
Nuuskamuikkunen

NoHitter wrote:

Round 46 : Drain Sections

Nominated by SapphireGhost. Basically, sections in which a beatmap suddenly get slower or less difficult in an attempt to either match the song better or cause the HP bar to drain. This is done usually by placing less notes and/or slowing the slider speed. To illustrate this, look at the two screenshots. Both happen in the same difficulty, the second one is dramatically less difficult as the first one.

Map(s) that use this technique
Renard - Banned Forever mapped by Blue Dragon [Nogard] (02:37:144 -> 02:53:371)
nomico - Bad Apple!! mapped by James [Hard] (01:51:608 -> 02:05:521)
zts - WhiteBlue mapped by MoonFragrance [Maximum] (00:56:604 -> 01:22:854)

~Mapping Technique Nominations~
There is also another map http://osu.ppy.sh/s/99244

LeaF-I (Terror)
Kuro Fuyusaki
596 posts
Joined May 2013
Kuro Fuyusaki
it's a nice idea, but it's depending on the HP drain's point too.
if it's high (HP Drain), well, i don't see anything with a pro, but it would be problem to others (like what scorpiour's saying too)
moreover, if the OD's high too, the reason's same as the HP Drain, (ah the rate's 4)
alex_98
120 posts
Joined August 2011
alex_98
there are many maps nowadays that use them
it's not that difficult to create good draining sections, you all are just referring to "old" maps
and sections that just suck away your life without reason are overmapped anyways (new maps wouldn't be ranked here, right?)

I don't understand how someone could use them this badly...

Me myself, I do use them rather often in my maps (no ranked yet :( ), but the life drains are mostly very low (Insane/Extra 4-6), so it doesn't really matter

dying of bad accuracy... that actually happens to me with maps without too.. (mostly cause they are so fast, BPM>230+), but if you die then just because you miss one note, that's so cheap...

so, draining sections for me are almost in every long map just before the last chorus with that epicness burst!!

That misuse freaks me out, so 4.


Btw, Last Remote isn't that hard, I (once last summer?) had 83~% with 2 misses and still alive (anyone who messes up there wouldn't pass the map anyway???)
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
3 for me. *Miss a couple of time in with HD mod then recover but still fail due to drain and lack of hit circles*
I seriously don't consider intentional drain a good thing because most of the time I feel that it doesn't fit into the song.
Anonym
24 posts
Joined April 2013
Anonym
I hate this,It give me so much fury :x
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