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Hitomi Sato, Junichi Masuda - Battle! Yuxie, Emurit, & Agnom

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Topic Starter
v_Enhance
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, March 25, 2011 at 11:56:25 PM

Artist: Hitomi Sato, Junichi Masuda
Title: Battle! Yuxie, Emurit, & Agnome
Source: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Tags: diamond pearl thepianist
BPM: 93
Filesize: 3020kb
Play Time: 01:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hoenn (3.4 stars, 142 notes)
  2. Kanto (1.35 stars, 93 notes)
  3. Sinnoh (4.03 stars, 152 notes)
  4. thepianist's Lunatic (4.88 stars, 242 notes)
Download: Hitomi Sato, Junichi Masuda - Battle! Yuxie, Emurit, & Agnome
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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thepianist
Offset 17150 ms

Remember to resnap all notes!

Okay bear with me~

you need to check spacing for the notes. Things such as:

[Kanto]
00:23:601 (1,2,3,4) -
SPOILER

need to be spaced out to:

The distance snap tool will help you make sure, as well as AIMod (ctrl shift a), that your spacing is even for the most part. This way, a player won't be confused and misjudge the timing. Adjust the spacing by holding down alt and scrolling the mouse button. The default is at 0.8x. Easier difficulties tend to have smaller spacing (0.5 - 0.8x), normals (0.8 - 1.0), and harder ones (1.0 - 1.5x). These can change depending on the song, as they are just guidelines (and my own, as well).

Overlaps such as this at 00:27:472 (1,2,3,4) tend to be unreadable and ugly.
A more readable, albeit not ideal, solution would be:

00:33:924 (1) - Sliders should never overlap itself unless it is a /very/ good reason.

01:03:601 (1) - Sliders such as these should aim to be more symmetrical.

Hidden notes such as
tend to be unrankable. Please check these as well.

Avoid streams such as 01:34:569 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1....) in easier difficulties, as well as the new combo spam.

You cannot have two sliders/notes taking the same spot on the timeline:

Remember to hitsound, and consider custom combo colors.

When these are fixed for all difficulties, give me a call and I'll recheck.

Keep it up!

(Also if you find a post helpful you should kudosu the post on the left ;) )
Topic Starter
v_Enhance
Fixed, thanks.
EDIT: Darjn that post just grew longer. I have English homework, so I'll fix this up at school tomorrow.
Topic Starter
v_Enhance
So AIME and Internet problems have been holding me back for a while... sorry for being late...

I've made (or I think I have) all the suggested changes, thanks so much! Although I'll have to learn how to hitsound properly...
thepianist
IRC Mod:

SPOILER
18:29 <thepianist> : its kk, so I'm starting with Sinnoh~
18:29 <v_Enhance> : k thanks!
18:29 <thepianist> : for the beginning, consider using a rhythm that follows the bass? ie http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67579
18:31 <v_Enhance> : wait what do you mean "follows the base"?
18:31 <thepianist> : bass <-- the instrument haha
18:31 <v_Enhance> : oh
18:31 <thepianist> : mmkay then
18:32 <thepianist> : for song setup for each difficulty
18:32 <thepianist> : the source is just "pokemon", put "pearl diamond" under tags
18:33 <v_Enhance> : kk
18:33 <thepianist> : usually circle sizes are not smaller than normal, as well. Consider that for sinnoh
18:35 <thepianist> : 00:17:795 (3) - and similar: remove that extra bezier point on the slider
18:35 <v_Enhance> : hm don't I have it set to larger than normal?
18:35 <thepianist> : ?
18:35 <v_Enhance> : Sinnoh circle size
18:36 <thepianist> : yeah, it's smaller than normal right now
18:36 <thepianist> : consider pushing it to normal
18:36 <v_Enhance> : ._. okay
18:36 <v_Enhance> : It's showing as larger than normal on my machine lol
18:36 <thepianist> : did you update?
18:36 <v_Enhance> : I think I did, but guess not.
18:36 <v_Enhance> : Should I do that now?
18:36 <thepianist> : update first yeah
18:37 <v_Enhance> : okay updated.
18:38 <thepianist> : nope, it's still smaller than normal
18:38 <thepianist> : http://gyazo.com/a824a61e57245dc66f222dda1a3365c4.png > push to the left
18:38 <v_Enhance> : hm okay let me fix that
18:38 <v_Enhance> : oh derp it's from left to right
18:39 <thepianist> : for the beginning, consider using one patter, and copy paste the rhythm while varying its placement
18:42 <thepianist> : so what I have
18:42 <thepianist> : is something like
18:43 <thepianist> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67586
18:43 <thepianist> : notice the red and yellow combos have the same rhythm, but you can place them differently
18:43 <v_Enhance> : oh I see
18:43 <v_Enhance> : ok
18:44 <thepianist> : you also want to vary the rhythm - things like 00:23:601 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - are quite dull to play
18:44 <thepianist> : since this is a hard difficulty, consider taking a bit more liberty in having fun
18:44 <thepianist> : and making the map more fun
18:45 <thepianist> : 00:27:472 (1,2,3,4) - still isn't spaced correctly - right now, you set it at 1.2, but the notes put it at 0.4x
18:46 <thepianist> : placement should be similar to http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67587
18:48 <v_Enhance> : alrighty.
18:48 <thepianist> : extend 00:28:440 (4) - to the white tick, and have it start at the earlier white tick
18:49 <thepianist> : add 00:30:053 (2) -
18:49 <thepianist> : a note there, that is
18:51 <thepianist> : 00:29:730 (1) - starting here, consider this rhythm placement
18:51 <thepianist> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67591
18:52 <v_Enhance> : Darjn how do you do those screenshots so quickly?
18:52 <thepianist> : shift F12
18:52 <thepianist> : F12 for just screenshots
18:53 <v_Enhance> : oh
18:53 <thepianist> : for other uses I use gyazo or customGyazo
18:53 <thepianist> : 00:32:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is overmapped, consider another rhythm placement?
18:54 <thepianist> : 00:35:537 (2) - reduce back to white tick
18:55 <thepianist> : 00:42:956 (1,2,3,4) - spaced too close
18:55 <thepianist> : 00:45:537 (5,6,7,8) - this is so obviously copy pasted, fix that c:
18:56 <thepianist> : 00:48:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - doesn't quite fit :< it's just 1/4 beats
19:03 <thepianist> : 00:50:698 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - things like this at such close spacing becomes a pain to read :<
19:03 <thepianist> : the break afterwards doesn't fit, map it c:
19:05 <v_Enhance> : lol
19:05 <thepianist> : all making sense? c:
19:06 <v_Enhance> : yup :)
19:06 <thepianist> : cool!
19:06 <thepianist> : update plss
19:07 <v_Enhance> : and done
19:07 <v_Enhance> : Hopefully I didn't miss something, but I probably did :P
19:08 <v_Enhance> : oh wait yeah I did
19:08 <v_Enhance> : let me map in that break
19:08 <thepianist> : mmkayy
19:11 <v_Enhance> : hm is it bad to have like a half-second break?
19:11 <thepianist> : it's usually not done without a really good reason
19:12 <v_Enhance> : yeah ok
19:12 <thepianist> : updated?
19:12 <v_Enhance> : done.
19:13 <thepianist> : yeahh the beginning should be changed to be more consistent c:
19:13 <thepianist> : 00:24:085 (2) - move one blue tick back
19:13 <thepianist> : 00:25:537 (5,6) - same
19:14 <thepianist> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67586 please do consider this instead in the beginning
19:15 <thepianist> : 00:36:182 (3) - add a note
19:16 <thepianist> : 00:42:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - consider
19:17 <thepianist> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67603
19:17 <thepianist> : 00:45:537 (6) - new combo, see previous
19:17 <thepianist> : 00:50:375 (7) - add a note
19:17 <thepianist> : 00:50:698 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - still seems overmapped :<
19:17 <thepianist> : 00:55:537 (6) - add a note
19:18 <thepianist> : 00:59:408 (2) - remove, do the same for the next 4
19:19 <thepianist> : 01:03:601 (9) - should be more symmetric, (something like below but better)
19:19 <thepianist> : 01:03:601 (9) -
19:19 <thepianist> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67606
19:20 <thepianist> : 01:09:730 (4) - extend to white tick, add a note on next red tick
19:20 <thepianist> : 01:12:795 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - sounds bad :<
19:20 <thepianist> : 01:17:150 (1) - map it, don't spinner this
19:20 <thepianist> : 01:24:569 (2) - starts on the white tick, ends at 4, remove 3 and 4
19:21 <thepianist> : 01:26:827 (1) - slider to 5
19:21 <thepianist> : 01:31:666 (1,1,1,1) - don't fit
19:21 <v_Enhance> : for 00:50:375
19:22 <v_Enhance> : where should I add?
19:22 <thepianist> : http://gyazo.com/aaa1756a233e3f48e3b6fa14d4be71aa.png is slightly better, but I'm sure you can come up
19:22 <thepianist> : with a better one
19:23 <thepianist> : 01:34:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - use an
19:23 <thepianist> : increasing spiral if you want this stream, make sure it is hitsounded well though!
19:24 <thepianist> : map in that break
19:24 <thepianist> : 01:44:891 (5) - new combo
19:24 <thepianist> : remove new combo after that one
19:25 <v_Enhance> : darn I need to go eat dinner
19:25 <v_Enhance> : uh
19:25 <v_Enhance> : this will still be here if I come back right?
19:25 <thepianist> : if you don't log off
19:26 <v_Enhance> : ok thanks
19:26 <thepianist> : 01:51:343 (8) - remove note
19:26 <thepianist> : I'll post a copy on the thread
19:26 <v_Enhance> : brb then
thepianist
(Also attached a difficulty) /donotkudosu/

Download: thepianist diff.rar
Topic Starter
v_Enhance
And late again, but...
thanks so much for your help! Wouldn't be anywhere without it... :)

Anyways, you'll have to teach me how to hitsound, haven't figured out exactly what's goodlbad :oops:
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