1. Heaven (6.32 stars, 1411 notes)

MomoHD wrote:

01:31:510 (1,2,3,4) - ok this is more unreadable than the first star please move the 3 away from where the 1 is idk looks pretty readable to me if you know where it is lmao

01:35:123 (2) - idk that slider looks weirdly placed plays fine imo

01:49:887 (1,2,3,4,1) - the jump from 4 to the 1 slider is rly awkward cuz of the jump before it being more spaced, maybe move slider a bit away to the left? fixed

02:21:615 (1,1,2,1,2,3) - this section is worse than hitler pls god no fixed?

02:31:039 (2) - instead of having a random note there, why not put a spinner so there isnt a gap in play time not enough room for this particular spott

02:33:395 (3,4,5,6) - id curve this a little more, looks a bit awkward fixed a lil

04:09:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this entire part is honestly a bit too over spaced imo idk I think because it's kiai and they're structured well that the spacing doesn't sacrifice playability

04:21:772 (11) - move this to the end of the slider before it instead of the start of the slider before it good idea ty

04:36:379 (1,2,3,4) - i dont even hear any more intensity from this beat yet it becomes super spaced? you cant be serious about this oneyes i can lol boy bye

Needs a lot of work, imo I think this could use a bit more work, no star from me sorry

Whirl wrote:

hey m4m from modreqs


[Your Only Diff]
some of your sliders are OFFBEAT! (unrankable) Make sure a slider either starts on the white tick or red tick, please fix this With cl9n's help I think I retimed the slow sections and fixed all of those sliders
00:06:753 (2) - remove slider and add note 00:06:832 - here and 00:06:989 - here Also I think this is timed fine now, but I'll actually go back and double check that after the mod so maybe it'll be changed
00:08:481 (3,4) - blanket these to make your map look good quality I don't think this is necessary right here.
00:26:356 (3) - we already talked about this ingame but I think this slider 00:32:355 (9) - this one00:36:412 (5) - this and 00:42:376 (8) - this can be different more expressive shapes Changed some sliders to make it interesting, I hope they're better
00:53:088 (2,3) - Blanket done
01:04:397 (4) - remove this and start spinner here, also end the spinner 01:08:480 - here like you have. Good idea, thank you!
01:15:961 - you missed this VERY important beat, please add a note I did this for consistency with the next slider, I think it plays just fine here.
01:21:929 (1,2,3,4,5) - just a suggestion (I mean these are all suggestions but this is reeally just a suggestions) I would make the stream overlap the slider a bit more for a cool effect, it'll add to the prettiness of your map, it may not flow good but I honestly do not care about flow, it's more of the quality of a map that matters imo! I really do like how this looks, but the streams and the snap is based around creating good flow so they're easy to hit; going to deny this just bc of that inconsistency
01:23:186 (8,1) - these can be blanketed good call
01:25:228 - note here
01:25:385 - ^ cant hear it
01:25:856 (6) - stack the end of this with 01:26:798 (8) - this done
01:37:008 (1,2,3,4) - this is a bit too spaced
01:44:547 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:47:060 (1,2,3,4) - ^^ they all flow excellently and play fine, the spacing is subjective of course but I think it works perfectly
01:49:573 (7,8,9,10) - this is okay as the music is getting slightly louder, so you can keep this spaced stream it is also the biggest spaced one in the section there
01:58:369 (8,9) - inconsistant spacing fixed I think
02:02:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmm, this shape might've been made for flow reasons, but it looks messy, imo quality is better than flow (as I said before) I'd rather you make this jump look nice than this jump being some sort of pp magnet or whatever the jump is nowhere near being a pp magnet, infact if you take the streams away it'd probably be 4* at max, I think the jump is fine
02:15:646 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - lol. this pattern is HORRIBLE, fix this please, like make it rotating squares or whatever rotating squares doesn't fit with the way it's mapped, altho I'll see what I can do about this pattern no change for right now but will go back bc I cant think of what to change it to rn
04:09:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I'm with momo here, this is way too overspaced, please fix I'm still with myself here I think it plays well and the fact it's only 4 notes makes it exceptionally easier to hit than some other pattterns, but I think I need to take a look at the very last stream before the slider, might be a flow issue there



sorry. This is a really short mod

Needs a lot of work, imo I think this could use a bit more work, no star from me sorry

Cl9n wrote:

From testplay to a mod lol

IRC Mods

18:10 Cl9n: want a testplay for your map?
18:11 Gus: yeah mang
18:11 Gus: that'd be dope
18:11 Cl9n: mmk
18:40 Gus: cheers, hit me with a msg when you're done
18:40 Gus: did you want me to mod anything in return?
18:40 Cl9n: no its fine
18:40 Gus: <3
19:03 Cl9n: im sorry mate but modding this is too difficult/too much
19:04 Gus: alright, thanks for trying, did you find anything that was like just way too bad in the map
19:05 Cl9n: ive only looked at timing so far
19:05 Cl9n: offset is wrong
19:05 Cl9n: 918 is correct one
19:05 Cl9n: because of the piano, you'll need to use 1/12 sd
19:05 Cl9n: remove the second offset
19:06 Cl9n: aka the one other here 00:25:728 (1) -
19:06 Cl9n: and thats as far as i gotten
19:06 Cl9n: timing is far more important to me than note placements
19:08 Gus: Thanks very much, sounds way better
19:08 Gus: I couldn't figure out the beginning timing issue
19:08 Cl9n: yeah piano is VERY difficult to time
19:09 Cl9n: where did you get your audio file?
19:09 Gus: I think it was from Sharp's map but I'm not sure bc friend sent me it
19:10 Cl9n: ok so try copying his timing
19:10 Cl9n: im looking at his right now
19:10 Gus: his looks solid?
19:10 Cl9n: ah he didnt map the piano
19:11 Gus: yeah
19:11 Gus: I didn't think so
19:11 Cl9n: ok so heres what i do
19:11 *Gus is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/763848 xi - Halcyon]
19:11 Gus: There's this mapsett
19:11 Gus: But
19:11 Gus: i havent looked at it
19:11 Gus: his offet is wrong
19:11 Cl9n: when you want to map a song, grab majority of the submitted maps of your song you see
19:12 Cl9n: you'll most likely see maps that are off like the one you found
19:12 Gus: oh nvm his sounds right idek different audio source
19:12 Cl9n: lol
19:12 Cl9n: just download all maps of your song
19:12 Cl9n: and compare
19:13 Cl9n: its a long process since the song you chose is fairly common
19:13 Cl9n: but it makes thing much easier
19:13 Gus: Sounds good lol
19:14 Gus: Yeah alright
19:14 Gus: Thank you
19:14 Gus: from a glance
19:14 Gus: does the other one I linked you seem correct?
19:14 Cl9n: oh i didnt check
19:15 Cl9n: i dont think so mainly because at first glance theres many timing pointsd
19:15 Cl9n: plus he's using a decimal in his bpm
19:15 Cl9n: so dont compare that one
19:16 Cl9n: sorry i couldnt finish the mod
19:16 Cl9n: just way too much for me
19:17 Gus: no thanks so much for the correct offset I think I can do the rest from there, I had no idea it was offset related
19:17 Gus: Post so I can give you kds?

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  00:11:308 (2) - End this slider at 00:11:674 - (1/6)
  00:21:517 (4) - NC?
  00:26:356 (3) - The curve of this slider doesn't look very good imo maybe make it something like.. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5762989
  00:29:183 (4) - nc?
  00:32:355 (9) - the same with this.. it doesnt look the best imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5763001 ?
  00:37:669 (1) - I think this one looks and plays better like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5763006
  00:40:051 (3,4,5) - Hmm don't make them reverse, It feels overmapped, kinda akward
  00:42:376 (8) - like.. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5763016 ? >the slider things are just suggestion, you're free to change them or not
  00:47:590 - idk if its only me but I hear something here and 00:48:219 - I suggest making 00:47:433 (2) - a slider that ends at 00:47:590 - and adding a circle here 00:48:219 -
  00:48:690 - add a circle?
  00:48:965 (5) - snap this to the yellow tick using 1/8
  00:49:397 - add circle
  00:49:593 (1) - make this a slider that ends at 00:49:829 -
  00:56:072 - add circle
  01:03:455 (1,2,3,4) - recheck snap of these
  01:09:051 (2) - nc?
  01:11:721 (1) - this one should be a single circle and start the stream at 01:11:877 -
  01:15:646 - add a circle here and move the slider to 01:15:804 -
  01:16:432 (10) - make this a reverse?
  01:20:201 (2) - Delete this and move the sliders, and add a new slider here 01:21:144 - ? I think it sound better
  01:23:657 (2,3) - I'd ctrl+g on these, slider first and circle then
  01:25:228 - add something here? it feels empty
  01:38:893 - this one should be clickable, maybe convert that mini slider to a double?
  01:39:364 (5) - this slider should be 1/4 or make the stream longer
  01:42:662 (1,2) - make this a slider
  01:45:489 (7) - stack this with 01:44:626 (2) -
  01:56:877 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I'd make this more curvy like a C
  02:07:950 (7,8) - fix this spacing here.. make it the same way you did 02:08:421 (9,1) -
  02:12:034 (3,4) - snap these to white ticks
  02:13:290 (1,2) - ^
  02:16:275 (5,6,7,8) - hmm Use the same spacing you were using in 02:15:646 (1,2,3,4) - ? OR opposite
  02:17:217 (2,3) - slider should be at white tick, so.. you move the circle to 02:17:217 (2) - and make it clickable
  02:21:615 (1,1,1,2,3) - I think this part doesnt fit well with the music, maybe make the slider longer so you got something like a streamy part? and not only separated "triplets" with sliders
  02:23:343 (5) - NC
  02:31:667 - add a circle here and move the sliders
  02:34:181 - ^
  02:38:578 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - parts like this feels like you're only mapping the rythm and not the song
  02:45:175 (1) - move this slider to 02:45:018 -
  02:52:400 (1) - this slider should be placed here 02:52:243 - or 02:52:557 -
  02:54:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here too, it feels like you're just throwing circles/sliders and not mapping the song, 02:54:442 (2,3,4) - delete these and move the sliders
  03:00:254 (2,3,4) - them should have the same shape
  03:13:448 (1,2,3,4,5) - make these slower..
  03:19:023 (6,7) - snap these using 1/8
  03:25:123 (2) - fix this pls
  03:28:605 (5) - avoid the overlap with the reverse slider
  03:47:060 (2,3,4,5) - come on.. you can do something better here xD
  03:49:338 (10) - start this slider at 03:49:259 -
  03:51:929 (8) - this reverse should start at 03:51:772 -
  04:14:390 (1) - finish the spinner at white tick
  04:19:887 (6,7,8,9,10) - space them the same like 04:18:003 (3,4,5) -
  04:33:552 - missed a beat
  04:37:322 (4,5,6) - strong beats are on the slider ends.. move the slider and make them clickable <check ther whole map you have other parts like this>
  04:44:233 (6) - fix this
  04:48:788 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - start this stream at 04:48:631 -
  04:59:959 (6) - snap this properly (white tick)

-Liddell wrote:

m4m

Heaven

SPOILER

Try moving slider 00:31:382 (4) to x:314 y:349 so it's blanketed with slider 00:32:324 (5) done

Curve slider 01:09:679 (7) more and try rotating it around -55 degrees (selection centre) so the flow is better ehh.. I don't really see the need for this, I think the flow is fine as is at this particular spot

Try moving slider 01:10:150 (8) at around x:378 y:364 so it will blanket with the stream it already kind of does, good idea though

Move 01:39:128 (2,2,3) a little bit upward to for better blanket a little confused on this part.. not sure how you mean, I think this section is fine

Since the preceding stream of 01:49:887 (1) has increasing distance, try to move 01:49:887 (1) a little bit upward (x:471 y:53) so it will blanket note 10 and flow with the stream better there's already a slight blanket there and it is snapped correctly

Try inverting (ctrl+G) 01:58:526 (9) so that it will flow consistently with your other kick sliders no change for now but ill leave this one open

I did this little experiment and inverted 02:11:406 (1,2) and 02:11:720 (1,2) and it flows better. Feel free to ignore if you don't like it oooh, okay, I'll actually get a 2nd opinion on this, I cant remember if its snapped a certain way in which changing it would ruin it, but hey I'lll keep it open

I think increasing the space of these 02:31:353 (3,4,5,6,7) will make it feel better
These too 02:34:181 (2,3,4,5) Feel free to ignore if you don't like it Also pass on this but only because I have them spaced like that bc its a lead in to the section from a pause, if it were at a different spot I'd definitely take this suggestion

02:39:992 (7,8) slider 8 and note 7 will sound better if you exchange them since the beat changed too from what i can hear (try placing the slider at 02:39:992 instead). I'll leave their pattern to you ok actually also going to leave this open, I think its fine either way tbh but if someone else brings this to my attention I'll definitely change too

Put a note here at 03:05:594 since there is a beat there
Here too 03:06:222 at this particular part I'm mapping to the piano, beats are purposefully missed, however I might change this again with other input

I love this stream! 03:10:306 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) :3 thank you!

I feel like the SV of this slider 03:14:115 (3) is quite fast. Try making it slower purpose of this is for lead-in on slow part

NC 03:38:264 (5) since the tempo changes here fixed

Since there are like spaced streams on most part of the map, putting 03:51:851 (8) here feels weird since a long stream plays better here imo. its a 1/6th back n forth for heightened effect, I think a spaced stream doesn't fit in this transition part tbh

You can also here 03:53:343 (9,10) the piano sounds so putting streams too here feels better definitely not 1/4th there, wouldn't work tbh

Map something from 04:21:929 to 04:22:243 since there is still a beat there I like the pause there hahah

Place note here 04:32:453 for the piano sound too faint of a sound tbh, also a transition part I feel

Map something here too 04:33:552 to 04:33:866 same thing haha

Remarks:
Really fun map imo~ I'm not the best modder out there so I'm not sure if this is helpful or not :c Hope to see this map ranked soon!

1. Your BG image is at a resolution of 1117x768 which differs from the recommended size of 1366x768, in tha case i would recommend you finiding a new BG image, since i could edit it to fit the appropriate size but, the image then would look distorted as hell, and anyway the BG doesn't really mean anything in my eyes :/
2. You need to add Combo Colours, again i would give you them but at the current state the BG image doesn't fit the appropriate sizes so i won't, if you find a new one fitting the resolutions, catch me IG and il give you them
3. Your folder size is greater than 10mb which is greater than the allowed size for a map without video, a couple of your hitsounds are over 1mb, like either find new ones or try to compress them into a smaller size
4. Consider changing the Audio lead in to 2000 (osu notepad and where audio lead in is change that there to 2000)
5. Consider adding bookmarks, where a new section of the song comes up or anything similar to that place a bookamark, it helps sometimes when modders come to it (personally i don't use it, but that's what i read they are for so people might be using them )

1. Check!

1. imo you have too much, like in this section 00:57:800 (1,2) - you overuse the whistle finish parts, but when a part like this 01:01:569 (5) - you dont use that hitsound even though it's well deserved. You need to be careful when placing hitsounds since overusing the same one over and over again will lessen its effect and make it annoying after a while
2. 00:08:457 (3) - these whistles on every slider, please get rid of that jesus it kills the nice music enirely, if you wantto use hitsounded slider whistle use it on more inense parts >_>

1. 00:21:493 (1) - NC for swag, makes it look like a new nice section is coming up
2. 00:26:363 (3) - NC
3. 00:32:324 (5) - ^ like you get the idea every stronger longer section of the son deserves to get emphasised
4. 01:01:569 (5) - NC (there's a lot of mistakes in your way of doing NC's, just keep doing NC's every section, aka i.e. the big white tick unless something different pops up or something that you want to emphasise more. I won't mention a Nc again, you need to go and scout your map for those mistakes, since if i point out all of them it'll just basiclly be 'backseat' mapping)
5. 01:04:397 - insert a note here please don't start a spinner with such a strong sound to it
6. 01:37:950 (1) - you might as well stack this with 01:37:243 (4) - placement wise looks way nicer imo
7. 01:50:516 (4,1) - you could blanket this
8. 02:04:887 (2,3,4,5,6) - em this doent fit here, i would consider changing this to sliders or notes that fit the sounds better rather than a stream, 02:04:966 (3) - since the sound here could maybe be emphasised by a 1/4 slider
9. 02:09:050 (2) - jesus the hitsounds on this are so over used, i strongly recommend deleting these hitsounds on this slider and adding one at the start of the slider only, or using a less intense hitsound
10. 02:20:359 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - does this huge spacing really fit the intensity of the song?
11. 02:41:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - add some jumps here rather than ruining the music intensity by doing that >_>
12. 02:44:547 (7,8,9,10) - ^
13. 03:20:044 (8) - touches the HP bar fix this
14. 03:49:259 (9) - this section onwards you miss some drum hits that are there, sometimes you mapped them sometimes you didnt :/
15. 03:51:851 (8) - this is a 1/8 slider not 1/12 also end the slider at 03:53:029 -
16. 04:46:589 (1) - you could stack this at 04:45:961 (5) - and make the stream start from that point rather than leaving it at a weird overlap
17. 04:59:940 (6) - NC for a change in the section

Em overall i think the map is at a decent standard, but it requires a lot of polishing and fixing the basics, like NC's but for a beginner this is actually great quality i have to say though, but to get to the ranking standards you will have to fix a lot. Like imo you lack note emphasis you just place notes randomly not thinking about what sound is behind them like for example - 02:41:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - listen to each sound on these notes, they are different right? so they deserver different spacing to emphasise them a lot more, do this and you will see great changes in your map but hey every one has to start somewhere right?
Good luck from me in this set, hope you take my word of advice not negatively, but positively and it makes you want to fix everything and become better! I don't say things to annoy people even if it sometimes looks like it

C00L wrote:

Right
Check! - means that it's been checked and nothing wrong has been found


[General]

1. Your BG image is at a resolution of 1117x768 which differs from the recommended size of 1366x768, in tha case i would recommend you finiding a new BG image, since i could edit it to fit the appropriate size but, the image then would look distorted as hell, and anyway the BG doesn't really mean anything in my eyes :/ huh... I don't know why this is, the source file I used is 2560x1440 lmao
2. You need to add Combo Colours, again i would give you them but at the current state the BG image doesn't fit the appropriate sizes so i won't, if you find a new one fitting the resolutions, catch me IG and il give you them ok thank you
3. Your folder size is greater than 10mb which is greater than the allowed size for a map without video, a couple of your hitsounds are over 1mb, like either find new ones or try to compress them into a smaller size I think I have a few unused hitsounds; I'll try and get rid of them
4. Consider changing the Audio lead in to 2000 (osu notepad and where audio lead in is change that there to 2000) idek what this means ngl LOL
5. Consider adding bookmarks, where a new section of the song comes up or anything similar to that place a bookamark, it helps sometimes when modders come to it (personally i don't use it, but that's what i read they are for so people might be using them ) ehhh.. song is pretty straightforward I don't think I'll do this but good idea

[Timing]

1. Check!

thanks to Cl9n

[Hitsounds]

1. imo you have too much, like in this section 00:57:800 (1,2) - you overuse the whistle finish parts, but when a part like this 01:01:569 (5) - you dont use that hitsound even though it's well deserved. You need to be careful when placing hitsounds since overusing the same one over and over again will lessen its effect and make it annoying after a while changed this section a little
2. 00:08:457 (3) - these whistles on every slider, please get rid of that jesus it kills the nice music enirely, if you wantto use hitsounded slider whistle use it on more inense parts >_>

ok done HAHAH thanks


[The only diff]

1. 00:21:493 (1) - NC for swag, makes it look like a new nice section is coming up alright
2. 00:26:363 (3) - NC
3. 00:32:324 (5) - ^ like you get the idea every stronger longer section of the son deserves to get emphasised done, all of it
4. 01:01:569 (5) - NC (there's a lot of mistakes in your way of doing NC's, just keep doing NC's every section, aka i.e. the big white tick unless something different pops up or something that you want to emphasise more. I won't mention a Nc again, you need to go and scout your map for those mistakes, since if i point out all of them it'll just basiclly be 'backseat' mapping) ok I actually need a 2nd opinion here bc most of my downbeats are on sliderends..
5. 01:04:397 - insert a note here please don't start a spinner with such a strong sound to it also need 2nd opinion here.. other people told me to remove the note that was previously there and switch for spinner.. ill get another opinion
6. 01:37:950 (1) - you might as well stack this with 01:37:243 (4) - placement wise looks way nicer imo done
7. 01:50:516 (4,1) - you could blanket this I tried to, guess it wasnt clear enough, I'll do a better blanket
8. 02:04:887 (2,3,4,5,6) - em this doent fit here, i would consider changing this to sliders or notes that fit the sounds better rather than a stream, 02:04:966 (3) - since the sound here could maybe be emphasised by a 1/4 slider will keep this one open for now
9. 02:09:050 (2) - jesus the hitsounds on this are so over used, i strongly recommend deleting these hitsounds on this slider and adding one at the start of the slider only, or using a less intense hitsound done
10. 02:20:359 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - does this huge spacing really fit the intensity of the song? yes xdxd
11. 02:41:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - add some jumps here rather than ruining the music intensity by doing that >_> thats the style of the map
12. 02:44:547 (7,8,9,10) - ^
13. 03:20:044 (8) - touches the HP bar fix this changed the slider entirely
14. 03:49:259 (9) - this section onwards you miss some drum hits that are there, sometimes you mapped them sometimes you didnt :/ intentional but I'll also see what others say here
15. 03:51:851 (8) - this is a 1/8 slider not 1/12 also end the slider at 03:53:029 - done!
16. 04:46:589 (1) - you could stack this at 04:45:961 (5) - and make the stream start from that point rather than leaving it at a weird overlap done
17. 04:59:940 (6) - NC for a change in the section done

[Final Words]
Em overall i think the map is at a decent standard, but it requires a lot of polishing and fixing the basics, like NC's but for a beginner this is actually great quality i have to say though, but to get to the ranking standards you will have to fix a lot. Like imo you lack note emphasis you just place notes randomly not thinking about what sound is behind them like for example - 02:41:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - listen to each sound on these notes, they are different right? so they deserver different spacing to emphasise them a lot more, do this and you will see great changes in your map but hey every one has to start somewhere right?this is intentional with the style, I want this map to be as flowy, smooth, and consistent as possible. I'm very capable of changing it to a more emphasizing pattern, but that really isn't the goal here.. but who knows maybe I will
Good luck from me in this set, hope you take my word of advice not negatively, but positively and it makes you want to fix everything and become better! I don't say things to annoy people even if it sometimes looks like it

• i'll mention one thing about the beginning actually
  00:00:918 (1) - hitsounds from here to 00:21:493 (1) - are so LOUD WHY 100% ON THE QUIETEST PART OF THE SONg
  ok that's it
  
  01:09:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - pretty ugly curve, should be lighter considering the angle of 01:09:051 (1) - but it isn't
  01:09:679 (7) - downbeat starts here, not on the slider end of this, if you do get updated timing this'll be fixed almost guaranteed tho
  
  as a result of that downbeat issue i'm also not gonna go over nc issues since they start on the downbeat they really shouldn't start on lo
  
  01:13:605 (4,5,6) - spacing this out more compared to 01:12:662 (1,2,3) - makes no sense rhythmically
  01:15:489 (5,6,7) - ok what the hell is this people are going to think this is a triple since they literally just played a triple before this but it's not??? a small jump pattern here fits way more than a stack
  01:16:118 (8,9,1) - same
  01:16:903 (2) - awkward as hell flow from previous slider, and idk why there's a break in between the two sliders--there's pretty clearly a note on the red tick there
  01:17:531 (1,2) - stack shouldn't be here, this should be a jump since the intensity of the rhythm changes quite a bit (to be honest this goes for most of your stacks--if you're going to stack a note, it should be a fairly either a) calm portion of the song or b) a portion of the song where there's no real intensity change happening in the rhythm
  01:18:631 (6,7) - spacing inconsistency -- you go from 1/2 jumps at this spacing to immediately after that the same spacing for 1/1 what?
  01:21:458 (6,7,8) - these shouldn't be the same spacing for again, rhythm-related reasons
  01:23:186 (8,1) - in contrast this should be spaced out more considering it's the beginning of a nc and an intense note in the song
  01:23:814 (3) - slider ends on the intense note, please don't do this, go thru the map and fix instances of this, if need be you can pm me and i'll explain what i mean by that
  01:26:327 (7,9) - pretty ugly blanket
  01:28:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this entire stream has the spacing concept wrong, it should go from high spacing to low spacing not the opposite way
  01:32:453 (1,2) - slider should accommodate the follow point from previous circle but it doesn't
  01:36:379 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rhythm is the exact same here but the spacing gradually increases? what?
  01:38:578 (7,8) - spacing of this is weird compared to other 1/4 stuff prior to this, why is this so close to the slider end?
  01:39:364 (5) - ok what just make this circles not a repeat slider
  01:41:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - jump pattern makes no sense here since the latter 3 notes land on some of the quietest parts of this section
  01:44:547 (1,2,3,4) - again spacing change on a stream where no rhythm changes, and this is actually incredibly drastic, 0.9x to 1.7x??
  01:45:175 (6,7) - missing triple
  01:50:516 (4,1) - literal momentum killer, this spacing is so small compared to what the player just came back from
  01:51:144 (3,4,5) - uh no please don't do the whistle hitsound on all of these it sounds like pretty bad
  01:52:086 (7,8,9,10,1) - this stream doesn't accommodate this slider in the slightest which also is pretty bad for playability
  01:57:348 (4,5) - same thing here
  02:09:992 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,1,2,3) - this entire section's spacing is all over the place and this shouldn't even be spaced that much to begin with--make spacing consistent here for all notes and reduce it by a huge margin
  
  i mean 02:10:777 (7,8,9,10) - seriously what
  
  02:11:406 (1,2) - starting jumps on red ticks is awful considering the strong beats are almost always the white ticks (you'll know when they aren't)
  02:12:819 (6,7,8,9) - not a perfect square but i'm assuming that's because of the stack
  02:15:646 (1,2,3,4) - again, why is this so spaced out?
  02:18:474 (1,2,3,4) - like what?????
  02:19:730 (1,2,3,4) - like what????????????????????? (although this does deserve more spacing than the others, but the pattern itself is awkward as hell because it doesn't curve like 02:19:259 (6,7,8,1) - this does, it goes from curved to straight)
  02:20:830 (3) - the stream should've ended here, everything else after this is overmapping (you tend to do this on a lot of your streams, five-note ones in particular but it happens a lot more than just that)
  02:21:301 (5,1) - more spacing issues
  02:21:929 (1) - why nc this?
  02:22:872 (3) - missing one repeat or something??
  02:29:468 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this isn't even the kiai or most intense part of the song and you're using 1.8x distance snap? what? reduce the ds here, there's no reason for it to be this high even if this is a relatively intense part of the song (also stream pattern is ugly but thats my opinion)
  02:30:097 (1) - this is a circle, not a slider
  02:31:039 (2) - but this SHOULD be a slider
  02:31:353 (3) - and this should be a kiai time
  02:34:181 (2,3,4,5) - again, sliders ending on strong beats--you should prioritize not doing this as it makes the song play and feel awkward, coming from a player perspective
  02:35:437 (1,2,3,4,5) - you shouldn't be using distance snap this frequently, this rhythm is a lot more intense than just the same spacing from note to note (this goes for basically all this section)
  02:45:175 (1,2) - please don't do this ever i can't emphasize that enough this is AWFUL for playability and basically everything, you should never be doing this sort of stuff for 1/2 notes
  02:46:589 (8,9) - awkward stack from a triple
  02:48:788 (8) - this slider should be mapped to more than just a slider
  03:01:825 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the one time you could actually make a pretty good stream pattern is instead made triples that flow pretty badly since the spacing is all over the place, this honestly should just be a 1/4 stream with consistent spacing or jump streams
  03:04:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - seriously please don't space this out so much if you're trying to rank this map, this is stuff i'd see in a rabbit jumping style map
  03:12:191 (1,2,3,4) - spacing should be less than the previous stream but it continues growing (this goes for the entire stream, basically)
  03:13:448 (1) - more off-timed stuff so i'm skipping this section as well
  03:34:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - you should NOT be mapping 1/4 during this section ever, the background synth is more noticeable than these piano notes
  03:54:442 (1) - kiai starts on a red tick what????
  
  this entire kiai section should be mapped to the more noticeable instrument as well (in this case the synth in the background again, alongside the drums), the piano in the background should only be mapped if the synth or drums (or later in the kiai the 1/4 piano) are playing)
  
  04:03:709 (5,6,7) - absolutely ridiculous spacing of slider jumps that flow awkward due to the angle
  04:04:416 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you went from 1.2x spacing to 1.7x spacing for something that shouldn't be nearly as intensified?
  04:10:071 (6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - no offense, but you'd honestly be better off remapping this entire section. this is basically the climax of basically every single point i've listed and it all combines into one giant moshpit of what-the-fuck-am-i-playing.
  
  let's see where do i begin
  04:10:149 (7) - this is where the piano very clearly ends but you map notes after it
  04:10:463 - this is where the piano begins again but you mapped the blue tick before it (????? what?)
  04:10:934 - this is most probably where your stream should start again instead of having a long repeat
  04:11:877 - basically the same thing, the slider here actually doesn't fit at all whatsoever
  04:12:741 (10) - more blue tick sliders that don't fit rhythm at all..
  
  as for spacing
  
  04:09:050 (1,2,3,4) - this alone is pushing it at 1.8x but you decided to make the entire last portion of the stream 2.0x which is uhh bad
  04:13:133 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this stream is unplayable, the amount of angle changes is actually kind of ridiculous, it should be a fairly smooth looking stream for almost all the streams in the map but you change angles 04:13:369 (4,1) - here, 04:13:448 (1,2) - here, and 04:13:605 (3,4) - here which makes the entire stream play and look like complete ass (looks are more subjective but it does play pretty bad)
  04:13:997 (4,5) - slider should, again, accommodate the follow point
  
  ok that's all i can really say about that section
  
  04:17:688 - the kiai shouldn't end here?? it ends at 04:16:903 - even then, i think this part should be the beginning of a new kiai instead of just not putting one here since this is also a fairly intense portion of the song
  04:18:631 (5,6) - random spacing increase from previous jump
  04:21:144 (6,7) - why stack?
  04:21:458 (7,1) - you can map a hell of a lot more than just nothing, leaving it blank is basically a sin to the music
  04:24:442 (8,1,2,3,4,5) - overused finish hitsound, which honestly is pretty common throughout the map--finish hitsounds should usually only be used on downbeats, not every note in the map
  04:31:982 (3,1) - more undermapping
  04:33:081 (3,1) - ^
  04:36:379 (1,2,3,4) - 0.8x to 2.0x distance snap, please for the love of god NEVER make a distance snap changing stream change so drastically
  04:36:694 (1,2,3) - and then we're just gonna go back to very short spacing after that ok got it
  04:40:463 (6,7) - this should be a 1/8 slider pattern not two separate circles
  04:40:856 (1) - this starts on a 1/3 tick
  04:41:327 (2,3) - ^
  04:44:233 (6) - this is the most random kiai start point i've ever seen
  04:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7) - slider in the middle of the stream almost never works out well, and it doesn't here
  04:50:437 (2,3,4,5) - this shouldn't be 2.0x distance snap, please reduce it
  04:58:133 (1,2,3,4,5) - spaced stream that doesn't fit + blue tick slider issue again
  04:59:311 (1,2,3,4,5) - start of this stream would be better as a slider for the woosh in the background, but even then, this should be reducing spacing (again), not increasing it
  04:59:940 (1) - kiai time should end here (honestly it's probably better if the kiai was just throughout the entire last portion of the song instead of randomly ending and starting it)

• [General]

1. Combo colors, those should be easy enough.
   
2. Uncheck countdown

• [Halcyon]
  Overall I'm just gonna say there's a lot of changes in spacing at very unexpected moments that for sure threw me off when i tried to play through it. My biggest recommendation is going back and evening out the spacing and when you do make streams more spaced mid stream, just make sure that the player knows it's coming instead of having it jump out at them. Also NCing could use work as well.

1. 00:19:687 (2,3) - Move 3 out more so it's more visible to see that it's a repeat slider.
   
2. 00:42:376 (1) - Idk, this just doesn't really fit the feel of the song with the sharp edges, try to go for something more.. Curvy i guess.
   
3. 00:45:863 - to 00:56:543 - I couldn't really tell whether you were mapping the violin or the sorta, drum thing going on in the background. If you are mapping the background then extend 00:49:947 (2) - by one tic, sounds better.
   
4. 01:02:198 (6,7) - You can NC these 2 circles to show the change in pitch,
   
5. 01:03:455 (1,2,3) - I can't hear what this is supposed to be, correct me if i'm wrong about it tho.
   
6. 01:16:118 (8,9,1) - NC on 8, change in pitch.
   
7. 01:21:929 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shorten the spacing on the stream, there isn't any real change in pitch from the last stream
   
8. 01:25:542 (4,5,6) - NC
   
9. 01:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Too big of a jump in spacing without warning.
   
10. 01:53:657 (7) - NC
    
11. 02:09:050 (2) - Snap this to like 1/12 or something higher, it doesn't sound accurate to the ringout, also NC
    
12. 03:04:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing issues again.

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

M4M

• [General]

1. Combo colors, those should be easy enough. think I got em
   
2. Uncheck countdown

oh, good call

• [Halcyon]
  Overall I'm just gonna say there's a lot of changes in spacing at very unexpected moments that for sure threw me off when i tried to play through it. My biggest recommendation is going back and evening out the spacing and when you do make streams more spaced mid stream, just make sure that the player knows it's coming instead of having it jump out at them. Also NCing could use work as well.

1. 00:19:687 (2,3) - Move 3 out more so it's more visible to see that it's a repeat slider. plenty readable
   
2. 00:42:376 (1) - Idk, this just doesn't really fit the feel of the song with the sharp edges, try to go for something more.. Curvy i guess. done
   
3. 00:45:863 - to 00:56:543 - I couldn't really tell whether you were mapping the violin or the sorta, drum thing going on in the background. If you are mapping the background then extend 00:49:947 (2) - by one tic, sounds better. bit of both, its a compromise hhere done
   
4. 01:02:198 (6,7) - You can NC these 2 circles to show the change in pitch, think its clean as is
   
5. 01:03:455 (1,2,3) - I can't hear what this is supposed to be, correct me if i'm wrong about it tho. part of the song hahah, it's there
   
6. 01:16:118 (8,9,1) - NC on 8, change in pitch. fixed in previous mod I guess
   
7. 01:21:929 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shorten the spacing on the stream, there isn't any real change in pitch from the last stream explained in last mod
   
8. 01:25:542 (4,5,6) - NC fixed in last mod
   
9. 01:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Too big of a jump in spacing without warning. also talked about in last mod
   
10. 01:53:657 (7) - NC prob fixed in lastt mod too tbh
    
11. 02:09:050 (2) - Snap this to like 1/12 or something higher, it doesn't sound accurate to the ringout, also NC i think its accurate but will leave this open
    
12. 03:04:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing issues again. last mod again

Alright, i'm gonna stop there. There's still a lot you can improve upon, i would go back and just make sure the spacing is even and flows nice.

Good luck!

Heaven

1. This timing is bad. I made my concept (I spend a hour on making this xD):
   SPOILER

   
2. You didn't use this hitsounds, remove this:
   
   SPOILER

   normal-hitfinish.wav
   normal-hitwhistle.wav
   soft-hitclap.wav
   soft-hitnormal16.wav
   soft-hitnormal17.wav
   soft-hitnormal27.wav
   soft-hitnormal28.wav
   soft-hitnormal38.wav
   soft-hitnormal40.wav
   soft-hitnormal5.wav
   soft-hitnormal50.wav
   soft-hitnormal51.wav
   soft-hitnormal6.wav
   soft-hitnormal61.wav
   soft-hitnormal62.wav
   soft-hitnormal72.wav
   soft-hitnormal74.wav
3. 00:32:324 (1) - Remove first anchor point
4. 00:37:664 (1,2) - Make it parallel
5. 00:49:946 (2) - Make two sliders here. Double-repeat 1/2 slider is old and isn't look nice
6. 01:03:454 (1) - Remove this circle, it's overmapped.
7. 01:17:531 (6,7,8) - Make jumps here, cause this stack is very very very hard to read on fast map like this
8. 01:26:327 (1,3) - Blanket improve
9. 02:03:395 (4,3) - Stack it?
10. 03:15:410 (4) - End it on downbeat
11. 03:20:044 (1) - Make it symmetrical
12. 04:25:541 (6,1) - Blanket improve

Chalwa wrote:

Hello! M4M from #modreqs! (I suck in modding Extra diffs)

Heaven

• ill apply the timing when I get home tonight!

1. This timing is bad. I made my concept (I spend a hour on making this xD):
   SPOILER

   
2. You didn't use this hitsounds, remove this: done in previous update
   
   SPOILER

   normal-hitfinish.wav
   normal-hitwhistle.wav
   soft-hitclap.wav
   soft-hitnormal16.wav
   soft-hitnormal17.wav
   soft-hitnormal27.wav
   soft-hitnormal28.wav
   soft-hitnormal38.wav
   soft-hitnormal40.wav
   soft-hitnormal5.wav
   soft-hitnormal50.wav
   soft-hitnormal51.wav
   soft-hitnormal6.wav
   soft-hitnormal61.wav
   soft-hitnormal62.wav
   soft-hitnormal72.wav
   soft-hitnormal74.wav
3. 00:32:324 (1) - Remove first anchor point Wouldn't make the slider long enough
4. 00:37:664 (1,2) - Make it parallel unsure what is meant here
5. 00:49:946 (2) - Make two sliders here. Double-repeat 1/2 slider is old and isn't look nice done
6. 01:03:454 (1) - Remove this circle, it's overmapped. I dont see how
7. 01:17:531 (6,7,8) - Make jumps here, cause this stack is very very very hard to read on fast map like this readability counts xdxd
8. 01:26:327 (1,3) - Blanket improve I think done?
9. 02:03:395 (4,3) - Stack it? done
10. 03:15:410 (4) - End it on downbeat fixed
11. 03:20:044 (1) - Make it symmetrical nah i like the onion look here really brings me to tears
12. 04:25:541 (6,1) - Blanket improve

not a blanket attempt in firstt place thooo
END!
I <3 xi and his songs.
GOOD LUCK!

1Computer wrote:

Alright, I guess I sounded a bit rude or mean in that last post, so sorry about that.

[ Scarlet Red ] wrote:

Hey dude, from my queue!
Not the best modder so please don't expect TOO much, but I'm just learning more and more about mapping as I mod so it helps me become a better mapper!

- 00:00:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Instead of having that gap, why don't you make these all the same distance away but with a 1.0x DS. Like purl=http://prntscr.com/c52474]this[/url] (I could only get that much on one pic) good idea, but I did it this way to accentuate the sound! I think I like it how it is
- 00:04:687 (4) - You could fix this stack a tad bit. intentional xdxd
- 00:06:729 (2) - Could stack this, it would look better here. also intentional
- 00:17:746 (3,4) - Stack? All these stacks are optional, if you intended to map that way then leave them but I'll point them out! yes sirree, they're intentional!
- 00:25:702 (1,2,1) - Idea, what if you made all of these notes stack ontop of each other, but made the curve of the slider a bit lower so it wouldn't go so high. I think it'd be a nice idea. Shown here I think its a little bit confusing and unfitting for just a slow part like that
- 00:56:035 (6,7,8,9) - I see what you tried to do but it looks a bit messy. Maybe just keeping it as a simple low arch would work. itt looks way better like this than any low arch I tried previously so no change heh
- 01:39:206 (6) - NC here. I don't like double digits in combos xD I NC'd on the downbeat
- 01:59:625 (1) - NC
- 01:56:798 (1) - NC 01:57:034 (4) - Remove Combo
- 02:08:421 (1) - NC 02:08:578 (3) - Remove Combo NCs are there for emphasis and consistency, I can't just change them willy nilly but I agree sometimes >10 is ugly
- 02:18:787 (1,2) - The way the one stream transitions into the other looks really weird. I'd suggest doing some tidying up here...nope the transition works for consistency, note #2 in the stream is placed as if the curve were to keep going
- 02:42:505 (1) - Stack with (4) and beginning of (5) intentional
- 03:48:945 (1) - NC

Couldn't really find too much wrong with your map. Just watch your combos and try to refrain from making them go into double digits, it doesn't really look too proper imo. (just my opinion of course)

Very hard map it seems xD. HIGH distance snaps in some streams they are pretty hard to tackle.

Good luck getting this ranked ^^. Only kudosu star if I helped at all.