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Shihoko Hirata - Heartbeat, Heartbreak

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Louis Cyphre
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 10 марта 2011 г. at 22:18:03

Artist: Shihoko Hirata
Title: Heartbeat, Heartbreak
Source: Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Tags: Shoji Meguro Chie Satonaka Yukiko Amagi Kanji Tatsumi Naoto Shirogane Yosuke Hanamura Rise Kujikawa Teddie Velvet Room Igor Margaret SMT P4 ATLUS Perusona Katsuro Hashino IceBeam -maju souji seta
BPM: 100
Filesize: 4380kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beamsy (1,69 stars, 100 notes)
  2. Hard (4,73 stars, 258 notes)
  3. MJ's Advanced (3,31 stars, 161 notes)
  4. Normal (3,11 stars, 169 notes)
Download: Shihoko Hirata - Heartbeat, Heartbreak
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Well first attempt to make [Hard] ><

Thank you -maJu for Advanced difficulty
Thank you IceBeam for Beamsy difficulty (Easy)
Thank you MLGnom for skin element from you Reisen Udongein Inaba skin
04.03.2011 if you downloaded before this day, redl please. new mp3

An awesome song from SMT: Persona 4 game. Enjoy :3
IceBeam

irc modding 8-)
-maJu
<3
Ibuki Suika
:oops:
Night_Side
:)
Ekoro
Star~
Gogo :3
Mastodonio
Star
[miau]Sue
like it :)
Kentara
*star* :)
Reiji-RJ
*о*
Charles445
8 stars in under an hour?


Beamsy
Nice

Normal
00:10:407 (1,1) - I'd remove that pointy back to the sliders.
00:44:307 (3,3) - I don't like these touching. It's minor obviously but it bugs me.
That's all, I liked the other sliders and such.

MJ's Advanced
Nothing, I really liked it.

Hard
00:06:807 (4,5,6,7,8) - These are a little cramped don'tcha think?
01:49:407 (3,1) - I'd flip these new combos. It's better to be consistent AND it indicates the jump
Very nice.


Nothing big to say really, it's great
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
thanks for modding and thanks for stars
Kurosanyan
[General]
  1. Mp3 must be between 128 and 192 kbps :/
  2. "Advanced" doesn't sounds easier than "Hard" imo.
[Beamsy]
  1. 00:09:507 (4) - Should be at 00:09:357 - imo because you're following the synth sound.
  2. 00:50:907 (3) - Make it star at 00:50:607 - and add a note at 00:51:507 - ?
  3. 00:56:007 - Add a note?
  4. 01:00:507 (3) - Make it star at 01:00:207 - and add a note at 01:01:107 - ?
  5. 01:05:607 - Add a note?
I guess that's all I can say. I don't really like the mapset except maybe for maju's guest.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
IceBeam
Ваще не шарит в музычке французик.
Mambomilchmann
Star
:)
narakucrimson
Hai~~ I was able to download it at last o/

[General]
  1. Since the hitcircleoverlay.png is quiet grey, on the .osu files, you could change the slider border colour.
    I think something like SliderBorder : 240,240,240 would look cool.
  2. Your .mp3 has a bit velocity of 250 kbps. If I recall, the maximum allowed is 192. Please re-encode it.
[Beamsy]
  1. Nothing to say, those non full stackings seemed a bit weird at first, but I ended up liking them. They just about fit the song.
[Normal]
  1. 20:907 (2) - Maybe it would look a little smoother like this:
  2. 01:51:507 (3) - Did you forget the clap ? :O
[MJ's Advenced]
  1. 34:107 (1,3) - Symmetry nazi :3
    Please note that I moved the last sliderpoint to the closest possible to the center of the circle. That way, it's easier to copy&paste and just press Ctrl+R. Also, after you do that (if you do), move (3) one grid left (as shown on the image).
  2. 44:907 (3) - Align this with (2)?
[Hard]
  1. 34:707 (3) - Clap?

Good. Seriously.
Serval
[Overall]
After re-encoding your mp3, check the offset it might change !


[Beamsy]
Nothing much to say, but some timeline may confuse new players (since the voice is a great part of the song, and your mapping fits well on). I'm thinking about timeline like this one : 00:50:907 (3,4) -. Not a big tough !


[Normal]

00:26:907 (1,2,3,4) - I was excepting another timeline here, like on the hard : 00:26:907 (1) - Weird to play, but not an issue, more a suggestion
00:49:707 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe align this like that? looks better imo : http://puu.sh/174z
01:03:507 (3) - Check spacing ? look kinda weird
01:22:107 (3) - Since this note is not align with 01:22:407 (1) -, keep the distance spacing ?
01:38:607 (1,2) - Use Tiny spacing (ctrl+1) and keep distance spacing ? it won't really change the way the pattern looks, so
01:48:807 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe change the way this pattern looks ? for keep up with spacing. I don't find this pattern really neat
01:49:407 (3) - Maybe one grid up to make it look better for spacing ?

[MJ's Advanced]

00:04:107 (3,4,5) - Suggestion : Try to move it to keep with spacing and make it look better? (Don't forget to check spacing after this pattern)
00:20:907 (3) - Suggestion : Maybe to down grid one the reverse arrow point, imo it'll look better with (2)
00:33:507 (8) - Spacing
00:34:107 (1,2,3) - Can you try to adjust it to make it look better? you can by using tiny spacing on this (you'll be at 0,99/0,99 which is way better)
00:36:807 (2,3,4) - Here too you can have a pattern which look more symmetric and better
00:44:607 (2,3,4) - Align this ? and after check spacing for 00:45:807 (4) - and following
01:24:507 (5,6) - Spacing
01:29:607 (5,6,7,8) - Spacing (Tiny can be used to got the good spacing)
01:51:807 (2) - Spacing : Tiny can be used here to make a better spacing between (1,2,3)

[Hard]
00:18:207 (4,5,6) - Spacing

Nothing much to say :p very good diff !


Have my star, I love the groove, and for me, hard funny to play with DT :p
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
After re-encoding your mp3, check the offset it might change !



01:03:507 (3) - Check spacing ? look kinda weird
01:22:107 (3) - Since this note is not align with 01:22:407 (1) -, keep the distance spacing ?
01:38:607 (1,2) - Use Tiny spacing (ctrl+1) and keep distance spacing ? it won't really change the way the pattern looks, so
01:48:807 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe change the way this pattern looks ? for keep up with spacing. I don't find this pattern really neat
01:49:407 (3) - Maybe one grid up to make it look better for spacing ?


00:33:507 (8) - Spacing
01:24:507 (5,6) - Spacing
01:29:607 (5,6,7,8) - Spacing (Tiny can be used to got the good spacing)
01:51:807 (2) - Spacing : Tiny can be used here to make a better spacing between (1,2,3)


01:51:507 (3) - Did you forget the clap ? :O
34:707 (3) - Clap?
Fixed only this.

00:49:707 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe align this like that? looks better imo : http://puu.sh/174z
Where can i download your skin?
arien666
No problem with this mapset but I'm not sure if this is acceptable for bubbling :3
Whatever, good luck ;_;

And sorry for nothing that I can help you ;_;
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
No problem with this mapset but I'm not sure if this is acceptable for bubbling :3
Perfect maps are not acceptable for bubbling? lol
Serval
Sorry, but AIMod is not perfect at ALL!

It doesn't make your pattern looks perfect... nor it make the spacing right.

AIMod is really useful for: Snapping Errors.

Cause really, have you took time try to look the pattern I've point out, and check without AIMod? Cause, yeah, afterall it's just suggestions, but really, If i was you, I won't believe AIMod that much :P

For your MP3: It's a VBR so yeah, you'll see it between 128 - 320 which is the real problem, so please re-encode to 192kpbs steady.

EDIT: I've checked with a BAT about the MP3 kpbs: If your average kpbs is at or under 192, it's okay, but your is at 250 (as Naraku and I told you) So... Sorry but you've to re-encode it :(

For the skin, huh, well :p I've got it with your map :o
-maJu
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
I've got it with your map
I'm talking about number images.

I don't understand why you guys are saying me 250, 320 and 617 if it is 128 ...
Anyway reEncoded now i'm SURE in kb/s.
Serval

Louis Cyphre wrote:

I've got it with your map
I'm talking about number images.

I don't understand why you guys are saying me 250, 320 and 617 if it is 128 ...
Anyway reEncoded now i'm SURE in kb/s.

Oh the number, sorry ! It's come from Reisen Udongein Inaba Skin

So, to explain basically what's the problem with your mp3: with VBR (Variable BitRate) you've got an average kpbs, your kpbs is variable. That's not an issue on osu! IF your average kbps is NOT over 192kbps. Your(average kbps) is at 250, so that's why you have to re encode it :(

I hope it'll help you :p check with winamp next time you're not sure, it show you if it's vbr or cbr, and tells you average kbps
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Take a look now. delete oldl ver and redl new.
lolcubes
Hey, sorry for the wait. Here's some stuff.

[Beamsy]:
  1. 00:50:970 (3) - Add timing sections on the end of the slider for the other clap. I feel the other clap would fit here nicely (just like you did on the slider (3) at 01:00:570).
[Normal]:
  1. 00:56:370 (2) - Add clap.
  2. 00:58:170 (1) - Add clap on the end of the slider.
  3. 01:36:570 (3) - Add new combo. A new "section" especially with kiai looks a bit odd if it starts on (3).
  4. 01:37:170 (2) - Add clap.
  5. 01:37:770 (1) - Remove new combo.
[MJ's advanced]:
  1. Not sure if you wanted to use timing sections to change the slider ticks, so I will not point those sliders out, just if you did plan on using them, then you need to add them (doh).
[Hard]:
  1. Not sure if you wanted to use timing sections to change the slider ticks, so I will not point those sliders out, just if you did plan on using them, then you need to add them (doh).
  2. 00:22:470 (1) - Add clap on the end of the slider.
  3. 00:47:370 (1) - ^
  4. 01:30:270 (4) - I understand that suggestions aren't welcome, however I do suggest to remove this note. It sounds better without it.
Really well made map. A couple of tiny oversights only. Hope it helped. :)
Good luck.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
:○
Nice modding, fixed something~
frost-b-spec

Louis Cyphre wrote:

Suggestions are not welcome
Nazi 1 grid stuff are not welcome
why?
i think must changed.

nothing other.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
why?
i think must changed.
"I think" is suggestion.
Weez
Ohh Persona :3

Beamsy
00:21:864 (3) Either stack properly or move it somewhere else, ugly where it is now.
00:28:464 (4,5) Stack properly
(there are more of these things, don't know if they are intentional or not but seems awkward :/)

MU's Advanced
00:45:864 (4) New combo like you have been doing previously.
(For the second Kiai time make the start of new combos the same as the first one)

nothing else ^_^
as always nice map
arien666
Okay, time for eating pizza :3

/me calls pizza for you
Speedy Cat_old
xDDDDDD
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
xDDDDDD
DDDDDDx

Thanks Arien~
Sakura
[MJ's Advanced]
00:00:564 (1) - You could make this curve smoother like you did on 00:05:364 (1)
00:20:964 (3) - This looks good however it could look better if the distance between this slider and 00:20:064 (2) never decreases. something like this perhaps?
00:32:064 (6) - If you're going to make a slider this sharp why not make it linear instead?
00:37:764 (5) - Same comment as 00:00:564 (1)

[Normal]
00:20:064 (1,2) - I'm not liking these sharp curves on sliders :<
00:25:164 (1,4) - Is this intentional? http://puu.sh/1ajU
01:06:564 (3) - If you can make smooth sliders like 01:05:064 (1) Why not make all of them smooth? D:

Nothing unrankable so im not gonna pop but if you make changes i'll rebubble, starring for now, good map <3
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Thanks a lot Saku, i have fixed something from your mod. :3 Glad that you like it <3
Sakura
Alright Rebubbled~ then
Derekku
Not so fast, there!

[General]
*score-dot is missing.
*cursortrail; but no cursor? o.o Add one (even if it's the default).
*Background: no love for Rise/Teddie? :p I would've cropped the image a little bit more to the right so that Chie wasn't cut off, but it's not big deal (Kanji's in it and that's all that matters 8-)).
*Most of the tags (character names, specifically) really aren't necessary, but I guess I don't see the harm in leaving them. (Although, you could add "souji seta" and get rid of the extra space between ATLUS and Perusona)
*Love the hitsounds~

[Beamsy]
*I'd really really prefer if the circle size was on the largest setting. It's an Easy, so why make the circles small?

[Normal]
00:20:064 (1,2) - these look a bit odd, and I expected (2) to repeat on the blue tick anyway.
00:29:364 (1) - expected a finish on the start of this

[MJ's Advanced]
Nice~

[Hard]
00:41:964 (2,3,4,5) - The stacking/spacing makes it look like (5) is only 1/4 after (4).
01:18:414 (3) - wasn't sure that this was 1/4 after (2). Could you overlap them a bit better?
01:23:364 (3) - ^
01:36:564 (1) - where's the finish? ):
01:38:214 (2,3) - again, the spacing almost makes (3) look 1/4 after (2)
01:46:164 (1,2,3,4) - same as 00:41:964.
*Throughout the whole map there are spots that are ambiguous since sometimes you overlap 1/4th notes and other times you have them just barely touching. Then, the spacing between 1/2 notes isn't much larger and things get confusing. I'd like to see a bit more consistency by having all 1/4th notes overlapped.

Overall: Great job! This is mostly minor stuff, so I can rank after you make changes.

EDIT: Just realized that there are absolutely no spinners in this mapset. I suggest adding at least one spinner per difficulty to prevent the scoreboards from being one big tie.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
*Background: no love for Rise/Teddie? :p I would've cropped the image a little bit more to the right so that Chie wasn't cut off, but it's not big
I love them, but not more than Chie and Naoto : (.

*I'd really really prefer if the circle size was on the largest setting. It's an Easy, so why make the circles small?
His style of mapping "Beamsy*. Sorry =/

Also there is no place for spinner, so i didn't add them. Oh come on, i love when it's mod battle >: D.

Other all fixed :3
Derekku
Alright, I'm happy now with everything but the overall 1/4 note spacing on Hard. There are still too many ambiguous spots where it'll be hard to sightread whether they're 1/2 or 1/4 apart. If you want, I can go through and list them all, but yeah.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
If you want, I can go through and list them all, but yeah.
I don't understand why it confused you. I don't know how to fix it, i did everything with Distance Spacing :/
Well suggest something 3:
Derekku
Aforementioned spacing changes were fixed via irc. Sightreading Hard shouldn't be ambiguous at all now.

Great job; Ranked!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Thanks Derekku ;)

And Gratz -maJu~ it's your first ranked difficulty :3
-maJu
~:3
Mafiamaster
OMGNICE PERSONA 4
Andrews_old
ah,Persona,awesome!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
:3
Hakeru
yay persona 4 :D

congrats <3
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