11:07 Mir: Hanatan - If [You're Happy and You Know It Clap Your Hands!]
11:07 Flezlin: LOL
11:07 Flezlin: mir ily
11:07 Mir: ily too
11:08 Flezlin: aw tjhx
11:08 Flezlin: hey wanna take a look at mapt ho
11:08 Flezlin: i just remapped like 90% of it
11:08 Mir: ye sure
11:08 Flezlin: ayy thx
11:08 *Flezlin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1315976 Hanatan - If [Painful Longing]]
11:08 Flezlin: i still need to clean up some stuff
11:08 Flezlin: but the general idea is there
11:11 Mir: 01:59:568 (1) - bleh
11:11 Mir: :x
11:11 Flezlin: :x
11:12 Flezlin: yea i dont like that either
11:12 Flezlin: idk what shapes to use x_x
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh
11:12 Mir: 02:28:991 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - following piano and the part before pretty intently
11:12 Flezlin: oh
11:12 Mir: 02:29:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - then ignores piano :(
11:13 Flezlin: whaaa??
11:13 Flezlin: i thought piano went 1/4 here
11:13 Mir: nope it's still 1/3
11:13 Flezlin: oh wait
11:13 Flezlin: only last 5
11:13 Mir: ye
11:13 Mir: 02:32:597 (3,4,5) - 1/6 :x
11:14 Flezlin: pls spare me this will ruin my pattern qq
11:14 Flezlin: yea ik its 1/6
11:14 Flezlin: but
11:14 Flezlin: uhhh
11:14 Mir: buzzy slider?
11:14 Flezlin: idk i simplified as spaced 1/4
11:14 Flezlin: ewwww
11:14 Flezlin: this is such a strong sound
11:14 Mir: ok no buzz slider then
11:14 Mir: i guess it works tho
11:15 Flezlin: 02:41:684 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - ok these are overdone dont look at them
11:15 Mir: i was about to say
11:15 Mir: what were you smoking
11:15 Flezlin: LOl
11:15 Flezlin: the map was harder before that ok
11:15 Flezlin: i nerfed things and didnt change that yet
11:16 Mir: o
11:16 Mir: okay
11:16 Mir: 03:10:969 (3) - reverse tick is too late
11:17 Mir: bpm needs to be sped up a bit there
11:17 Flezlin: o that got unsnapped
11:17 Flezlin: wait
11:17 Flezlin: i forgot what i had before tht worked
11:17 Mir: 1/12
11:17 Flezlin: fuk
11:18 Flezlin: aaaaa
11:18 Mir: 03:17:248 (1) - OH
11:18 Mir: MY
11:18 Mir: GOD
11:18 Mir: FLEZZLWES
11:18 Flezlin: :o
11:18 Mir: SILENCE THIS SLIDER SLIDE OR I WILL COME TO AMERICA AND FUCKING LIGHT A FIRE UNDER YOUR ASS
11:18 Flezlin: OOP
11:18 Flezlin: pls
11:18 Mir: such a beautiful moment in the song then
11:18 Flezlin: wait how od i do thta idk hitsounds fml
11:18 Mir: ERRERERERRRRERERRRERERRRERR
11:19 Flezlin: LOL
11:19 Mir: 03:17:248 - give this timing point a custom thing
11:19 Mir: get a silent 44 byte file and name it ____sliderslide
11:19 Mir: with a number at the end
11:19 Mir: and give that number to the timing point and it should silence it
11:19 Flezlin: custom sampleset?
11:19 Flezlin: ooooh
11:19 Mir: yeah
11:19 Flezlin: ok
11:19 Flezlin: thx
11:20 Flezlin: and uhh
11:20 Flezlin: part after that
11:20 Flezlin: is remaining 10%
11:20 Flezlin: that i need to adjust
11:20 Mir: ah okay
11:20 Flezlin: the slow part before last kiai i mean
11:20 Mir: but you did do the kiai
11:20 Mir: right
11:21 Flezlin: yea
11:21 Flezlin: that and everything after
11:22 Mir: 04:19:988 (1) - might wanna lower spacing on this
11:22 Mir: not as strong as the rest of the jumps, no hitsound on it either
11:22 Mir: 04:18:834 (1,1) - could stack it with these
11:22 Flezlin: ok yea
11:23 Mir: 04:22:295 (6) - NC?
11:23 Mir: downbeat here
11:23 Flezlin: aaa that kinda ruins some of my pattern but yea spacing should be lower
11:23 Flezlin: oh alright
11:23 Flezlin: i wasn't sure lol
11:24 Mir: 04:29:219 (6) - here too
11:24 Mir: most of your combos in the map are sub-7
11:24 Flezlin: alright
11:24 Mir: so when they get higher than 7 it's like "what happened to the ncs"
11:24 Flezlin: llo
11:25 Mir: 04:42:199 (1) - if you play with the length of the sliderhead you can probably complete this flower
11:26 Flezlin: uhh im not sure about the rankability if i finish it
11:26 Flezlin: so i left sliderend clear
11:26 Mir: hmm
11:26 Flezlin: i mean, it doesnt look toooo bad......... .. .right .. .. ?
11:26 Mir: well i'll tell you some reasons i think it's rankable
11:27 Mir: 1. the start is pretty clear, you can't really misread it
11:27 Mir: 2. it's a flower that snakes out ccw
11:27 Mir: 3. the slider is slow enough that the ticks sort of spawn in as it plays so they "show the way"
11:27 Mir: yeah that's it
11:27 Flezlin: oh shit the ticks
11:27 Mir: pretty sure it's fine
11:27 Flezlin: yea i hope it is
11:28 Mir: so if you wanna you can finish it xd
11:28 Flezlin: at least it'll still be better than justability slider
11:28 Flezlin: xd
11:28 Mir: 04:54:315 (1,2,3) - nazi but spacing here?
11:29 Flezlin: that was intentional decrease
11:29 Mir: ah okay
11:29 Mir: 04:55:180 (1) - this threw me off
11:29 Flezlin: yea lol idk i thought it fit
11:29 Mir: if you stacked this underneath it it would be more clear that it's supposed to decrease
11:29 Flezlin: uhh
11:29 Flezlin: yea
11:29 Mir: that plus personally just stopping movement completely would work here since the song doesn't have as much emphasis on the 1
11:30 Flezlin: but its also a stronger sound i think . . ?
11:30 Mir: it's not *that* much stronger
11:30 Flezlin: uhh
11:30 Flezlin: ok
11:30 Mir: it's.. slightly stronger
11:30 Flezlin: yea ur right
11:30 Flezlin: idk
11:30 Flezlin: maybe ill ask more ppl
11:30 Mir: sounds gudo
11:30 Flezlin: i wanna stack it under with decreasing spacing
11:30 Flezlin: but idk lol
11:31 Flezlin: anyways
11:31 Mir: yeah just ask for more opinions
11:31 Flezlin: so what did you think of the map overall?
11:31 Mir: it's hard
11:31 Mir: hmm some aesthetic choices kinda tilt me
11:31 Flezlin: aaa shit like what?
11:31 Mir: some rhythmic stuff in the beginning too
11:31 Mir: well lets start with rhythm cuz it's probably easiest to explain for me
11:31 Flezlin: rhythmic stuff?
11:31 Flezlin: ok
11:32 Mir: 00:04:469 (5) - this starts on the background piano but ends on the piano that 00:03:027 (1,2,3,4) - was following
11:32 Mir: so maybe make its end clickable rather than the head
11:32 Flezlin: oh
11:33 Flezlin: i just reaaally wanted to avoid 1/2s lOL
11:33 Flezlin: but yea
11:33 Mir: 00:03:027 (1) - could remove this too actually cuz it starts on a background piano
11:33 Flezlin: ill fix beginning
11:33 Mir: o nvm
11:33 Mir: un-nc it instead
11:33 Flezlin: o
11:33 Flezlin: ok
11:33 Mir: that way if you nc 00:03:316 (1) - it makes more sense cuz you switch from background piano to the main one
11:34 Mir: 00:03:316 (2) - for you pre-nc
11:34 Mir: 00:06:200 (2,3,4) - isn't 3 a lot stronger than 4 here
11:35 Flezlin: oh i had pitch in mind
11:35 Mir: ah
11:35 Mir: you can still do pitch
11:35 Mir: just adjust the spacing
11:35 Flezlin: oko
11:36 Mir: 00:13:844 - damn it why did the song have to start here lol
11:36 Flezlin: lol
11:37 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - this is the biggest tilt-factor of aesthetics tbh
11:37 Flezlin: shud i add triple ? or kickslider
11:37 Mir: up to you, it works empty
11:37 Flezlin: ok
11:37 Flezlin: wait
11:37 Flezlin: oh
11:37 Flezlin: u dont like that slider shape?
11:37 Flezlin: qq
11:37 Mir: i don't not like it
11:37 Mir: i just feel it doesn't fit the rest of the shapes you use
11:37 Flezlin: o
11:37 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - it's too similar to this
11:37 Flezlin: ehhh
11:38 Mir: but they're like
11:38 Mir: ever so slightly different
11:38 Mir: cuz the red point is further away
11:38 Flezlin: i mean its just like a toned down ver
11:38 Flezlin: not as sharp
11:38 Mir: yeah but the sounds are the same that you put em on so
11:38 Flezlin: i mean imo
11:38 Flezlin: 00:26:107 (1) -
11:38 Flezlin: this
11:38 Flezlin: hold on
11:39 Flezlin: zzzzzzaaaaaaaaa
11:39 Flezlin: sound
11:39 Flezlin: would be sharper than
11:39 Flezlin: 00:24:376 (1) -
11:39 Flezlin: muuuuuuuu
11:39 Mir: 00:22:645 (1) - waa
11:39 Mir: 00:26:107 (1) - zaaaaa
11:39 Mir: or saaa idk
11:40 Mir: almost the same sound if you disregard the letter it starts on
11:40 Flezlin: idk zzz sounds like a harser sound to me
11:40 Flezlin: well
11:40 Mir: hmm
11:40 Flezlin: im probably inconsistent wit this anyway lOL
11:40 Flezlin: so i mean
11:40 Flezlin: idk what shape i'd change to tho
11:41 Mir: personally i would do https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/jsYEOdZ.png
11:41 Mir: idk why i just would
11:41 Flezlin: im not rly a fan of that shape tbh x_x
11:41 Mir: well sure in the end it's all subjective
11:41 Mir: if you decide to change it you can do so
11:42 Mir: but after hearing the reasoning it makes more sense as to why
11:42 Flezlin: ok lol
11:42 Flezlin: i mean my reasoning is probably bs and gonna be stomped on by mods and bns
11:42 Flezlin: :joy: :gun:
11:42 Mir: i don't.. quite agree with it but.. it makes sense
11:42 Mir: it's not something that would prevent a bubble or anything im sure
11:43 Flezlin: yea im dumb so
11:43 Mir: because it's subjective xd
11:43 Flezlin: yea true
11:43 Mir: but something that may prevent one is
11:43 Mir: some cases where piano spacing is the same if not higher than drum spacing
11:43 Flezlin: uh oh
11:43 Flezlin: ohhh fuck
11:43 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - perhaps take a look here
11:44 Mir: 00:32:309 (2,3,4,5,6) - i like this
11:44 Mir: 00:31:876 (1,2) - but these
11:44 Mir: piano only with 00:31:588 (1,2) - or even these
11:44 Flezlin: hmm
11:45 Flezlin: urk i really just wanna solely follow piano with these
11:45 Flezlin: is th at not ok?
11:45 Mir: it's not not okay but
11:45 Mir: having them the same spacing as your drum emphasis kills differentiation imo
11:45 Flezlin: no they all have piano tho
11:45 Flezlin: but yea ik what you'res saying
11:45 Mir: they all have piano yes
11:45 Mir: but they don't all have drums
11:46 Mir: but they're spaced as if they do all have drums
11:46 Mir: if that makes sense
11:46 Mir: 00:31:299 (1,2) - sets up your drum spacing
11:46 Flezlin: yea
11:46 Mir: 00:31:588 (1,2) - then when has no drum and it's the same if not slightly higher it's like oh
11:47 Mir: it's kind of an easy fix if you just play around with your spacing there
11:47 Flezlin: i want to di e
11:47 Mir: 00:33:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this looks awesome tho
11:48 Flezlin: oh thanks
11:48 Mir: 00:48:607 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - okay
11:48 Mir: 00:50:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - where emphasis
11:48 Mir: where's the contrast :(
11:48 Mir: all of those boom booms and the spacing is kinda same-ish
11:49 Mir: 00:51:203 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - here it gets better tho
11:49 Flezlin: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
11:50 Mir: 01:00:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - cute even if subtle <3
11:50 Flezlin: o k end my life tbh
11:50 Flezlin: haha thanks
11:51 Mir: 01:02:453 - this section is pretty much spot on
11:51 Mir: very similar to how i would map it so bonus points for that xd
11:51 Flezlin: xd thanks
11:51 Flezlin: i spent like
11:51 Flezlin: an hour
11:51 Flezlin: deciding only the rhythm
11:51 Flezlin: for t his
11:51 Flezlin: like wtf i wanted to die
11:52 Flezlin: xd
11:52 Mir: it paid off really
11:52 Flezlin: aww thanks
11:52 Mir: 01:54:376 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - :thinking:
11:52 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :ythinkin:
11:53 Mir: 00:32:165 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i liked this more tbh :
11:53 Mir: :x
11:53 Flezlin: hmm
11:53 Flezlin: i didnt want to use the same pattern
11:53 Mir: it's very similar but
11:54 Mir: 01:55:241 (1,2,3,4) - is a V-shape
11:54 Mir: 01:55:818 (5,6) - and this doesn't stack on 3
11:55 Mir: 02:00:434 (1,2) - sliiiiiiiiightly tilted
11:55 Mir: looks like you ran out of space LOL
11:55 Flezlin: LOL
11:55 Flezlin: omf
11:55 Flezlin: i did
11:56 Mir: 02:02:741 (1,1) - you already have spacing like this for 1/4 so
11:56 Flezlin: 02:02:741 (1,1) - ok wtf this flow makes me wanna die
11:56 Flezlin: ?
11:56 Mir: something like this https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/mmfUuTx.jpg may work
11:56 Flezlin: uhh
11:57 Flezlin: wait i dont really see
11:57 Flezlin: ohh
11:57 Flezlin: nvm
11:57 Mir: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/R0qBGp2.jpg
11:57 Mir: ideally 02:00:001 (2) - mirroring this might work
11:57 Mir: also lol 2:00:00*1*
11:57 Flezlin: tbh i wanted to do something like 01:46:588 (1,2) -
11:57 Mir: special snowflake slider right there
11:57 Flezlin: lol
11:57 Mir: ah i see
11:58 Mir: hmm well
11:58 Mir: it's kinda similar
11:58 Mir: ... kinda
11:58 Flezlin: pls
11:58 Mir: you can keep it but it shall forever tilt me
11:58 Flezlin: no ill fix it LOL
11:59 Flezlin: this tilts me too
11:59 Mir: oh okay LOL
11:59 Flezlin: also i wasn't expecting you to actually like go through and mod it x_x
11:59 Mir: o
11:59 Flezlin: i didnt want to take up your time so i only was looking for quick opinion lol
11:59 Mir: it's fine i guess
11:59 Mir: i just woke up so i don't feel like studying
11:59 Flezlin: yea but now its 6 am for me LOL
11:59 Mir: o
12:00 Mir: i can do the rest as forum post if you want
12:00 Flezlin: so uhhh
12:00 Flezlin: u can post chatlogs i guess