19:09 ajeemaniz: pyak can u help
19:10 PyaKura: with what?
19:10 ajeemaniz: snapes is hard to check D:
19:10 PyaKura: o-oh
19:10 ajeemaniz: can you help me confirm the snapping in my map?
19:10 PyaKura: not sure i can help but link
19:11 *ajeemaniz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1024521 DragonForce - Symphony of the Night [Rhapsody of the Warriors // 6K]]
19:11 PyaKura: so uh where exactly?
19:11 ajeemaniz: you can use 4K diff to check, 6K using same snapping too
19:11 ajeemaniz: 03:27:332 (207332|4) -
19:12 ajeemaniz: until 03:33:953 (213953|0) -
19:12 PyaKura: oh wild snapes
19:12 ajeemaniz: and 04:27:470 (267470|5) -
19:12 ajeemaniz: and lastly 04:30:860 (270860|4) -
19:12 ajeemaniz: rip me
19:12 ajeemaniz: ALMOST QUALIFIED OGOD
19:13 ajeemaniz: then suddenly kawawa asks me to quantize them all..
19:13 PyaKura: 03:27:332 - sounds like something along the lines of 1/12 bullshit to me
19:13 PyaKura: uuuuh
19:14 PyaKura: viewing it in 1/8 right now
19:14 ajeemaniz: it would plays awkwardly to put them in 1/12, and the sound amount fits with 1/8 snapping
19:14 PyaKura: i can say with certainty that it's faster than 1/8
19:14 PyaKura: i mean
19:14 ajeemaniz: yes, its certainly faster than 1/8
19:14 PyaKura: 2 notes separated by 1/12
19:15 PyaKura: then the next note on the blue line (in 1/4)
19:15 PyaKura: and so on
19:15 ajeemaniz: something like
19:15 PyaKura: honestly i'd say you're better off keeping everything 1/8
19:15 ajeemaniz: wait
19:15 PyaKura: for playability's sake
19:15 ajeemaniz: https://puu.sh/rvkaV/97d92f7542.png
19:16 PyaKura: yeah
19:16 PyaKura: that's ugly a f though lol
19:16 PyaKura: my word is
19:16 PyaKura: if you want to keep stairs then keep that 1/8
19:16 PyaKura: if you want to go the 1/12 route i'd say uuuh
19:16 PyaKura: lemme see
19:17 ajeemaniz: i'd go with 1/8
19:17 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231452
19:17 PyaKura: i've shortened the LNs but w/e
19:18 PyaKura: those 1/12 would play better like this, or 1/8 stairs
19:19 PyaKura: same thing with the following notes apparently, with the snaps :c
19:20 PyaKura: considering it's heavily instrumental there is a chance it's the musician's fault
19:21 ajeemaniz: a sec
19:21 ajeemaniz: i'll use 1/8 because the sounds amount are fitting
19:21 ajeemaniz: and simplifying it are allowed
19:21 PyaKura: yes
19:22 ajeemaniz: so, this part is okay?
19:22 PyaKura: until 03:33:124 - i guess so
19:23 PyaKura: 03:33:022 - this confuses me
19:23 PyaKura: lol
19:23 PyaKura: the drums are okay but the guitar is off rhythm iuegzbocizgueiocgezihgvcipeaz
19:26 ajeemaniz: i thought its all 1/6?
19:26 PyaKura: the more i listen to it the more i feel like the guitar is at least 1/16 early but that doesn't make sense
19:26 PyaKura: don't think they're 1/6
19:26 PyaKura: if you listen from 03:33:022 - to 03:33:177 -
19:26 PyaKura: i can hear 4 notes
19:27 PyaKura: snapped on 1/8
19:27 PyaKura: the odd one is 03:33:263 (213263|2) -
19:28 PyaKura: actually not it sounds okay
19:28 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231545
19:28 PyaKura: ignore the pattern
19:28 PyaKura: those sound like the correct snaps
19:30 PyaKura: honestly the best course of action is to count the number of guitar sounds, and place an equal number of notes accordingly with a simplified rhythm :/
19:30 PyaKura: when you play it at 100% speed it won't even be noticeable
19:33 ajeemaniz: meep
19:33 ajeemaniz: back
19:33 ajeemaniz: sorryyyyy
19:33 PyaKura: np np
19:34 ajeemaniz: @-@ yah
19:34 ajeemaniz: they're sounds earlier
19:35 ajeemaniz: 03:33:073 (213073|3) - we can ignore this too
19:37 ajeemaniz: or just use03:33:608 (213608|5,213677|4) -
19:37 ajeemaniz: 1/4 on that
19:37 PyaKura: 03:33:022 - we can hear that the sounds speed up here, so the amount of notes should increase from here on
19:39 PyaKura: and yeah go with 1/4 for the next one
19:39 ajeemaniz: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231634
19:40 ajeemaniz: how bout making polyrhythm
19:40 PyaKura: guitar and drum separatedly?
19:41 ajeemaniz: yee, the highlighted notes are for guitar
19:41 ajeemaniz: they are mixed 1/6 and 1/8
19:42 PyaKura: that could work but you gotta make it consistent if there are other instances in the map
19:42 PyaKura: and find a way to make it work in 4k
19:42 ajeemaniz: hmm
19:42 ajeemaniz: i'll follow the guitar only then
19:43 ajeemaniz: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231670
19:44 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231678
19:44 PyaKura: i went with 1/8 before the red line and 1/6 after
19:45 ajeemaniz: ooo
19:45 PyaKura: aaaaaaaaa this kind of track is a headache
19:45 ajeemaniz: yep
19:45 ajeemaniz: xD
19:45 ajeemaniz: sorry
19:46 ajeemaniz: 03:32:987 - i hear another guitar here
19:46 PyaKura: no problem i enjoy spending time on this stuff
19:47 PyaKura: i simplfied it
19:47 PyaKura: 03:32:918 - to 03:33:332 -
19:47 PyaKura: i hear 7 sounds
19:47 ajeemaniz: oh loll
19:47 ajeemaniz: yeah, that also fits the kick
19:47 ajeemaniz: ok, done that part
19:48 PyaKura: 03:33:401 (213401|4,213470|3,213539|2,213539|1) - sounds like 1/8 to me
19:48 PyaKura: idk
19:48 ajeemaniz: ooo
19:48 ajeemaniz: yes
19:48 PyaKura: 03:33:608 (213608|5,213677|4,213746|3,213746|2,213849|1,213953|0) - and then make those 1/4 and it should fit the number of sounds
19:49 ajeemaniz: done 1/4
19:49 ajeemaniz: and done 1/8
19:49 PyaKura: might wanna rearrange the notes afterwards to check the playability
19:49 PyaKura: oh well you'll see for yourself
19:49 PyaKura: ok next
19:49 ajeemaniz: done too
19:49 PyaKura: 04:27:470 -
19:50 PyaKura: i've done that part when you were away
19:50 PyaKura: :p
19:50 ajeemaniz: those are 1/8
19:50 PyaKura: so uh
19:50 ajeemaniz: ?
19:50 ajeemaniz: i can hear 5 ticks every 1/1
19:50 PyaKura: the guitar is awfully wild here
19:50 PyaKura: so i counted the sounds
19:51 PyaKura: 12 sounds total from 04:27:386 - to 04:28:148 -
19:51 PyaKura: so i simplified it to 1/6
19:51 ajeemaniz: previously it was 1/6
19:51 ajeemaniz: @-@
19:52 PyaKura: 04:27:386 (267386|1) - this note should be removed to make the number of notes = number of sounds buuut
19:52 PyaKura: if you remove it it sounds wrong
19:52 PyaKura: plays* wrong, slightly
19:53 ajeemaniz: i think i will keep 18
19:53 ajeemaniz: 1/8
19:53 ajeemaniz: 12 guitar sound plus 1/4 drums
19:53 PyaKura: idk i can say there are 12 or 13 sounds at most
19:53 PyaKura: not 16
19:53 ajeemaniz: 04:27:470 (267470|5,267513|4,267555|3,267597|2,267640|1) -
19:53 ajeemaniz: im sure enough this is 1/8
19:53 ajeemaniz: 04:27:640 (267640|5,267682|4,267767|2) - guitar here
19:53 PyaKura: yes but it's the same issue as earlier
19:53 PyaKura: except it's more pronunced
19:54 ajeemaniz: 04:27:640 (267640|5,267682|4,267767|2) - 3 guitar, 04:27:725 (267725|3) - 1 drum
19:54 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6231790
19:55 ajeemaniz: so 1/6? uwu
19:55 PyaKura: sound right for me, but it's your call
19:55 ajeemaniz: i'll keep 18
19:55 ajeemaniz: 1/8
19:55 PyaKura: if you include drums that could work indeed
19:55 ajeemaniz: yeah
19:55 ajeemaniz: i included 1/4 drums
19:56 ajeemaniz: last part
19:56 ajeemaniz: is headache
19:56 PyaKura: ok next
19:57 PyaKura: mmmh
19:57 PyaKura: adding a few 1/8 should do the trick from the looks of it
19:57 PyaKura: let me see
19:57 PyaKura: 04:30:903 - here for example
19:57 PyaKura: 04:31:157 -
19:58 PyaKura: actually wait let me think xD
19:58 ajeemaniz: if adding those notes could works, i would pick focusing on drum beats though
19:58 ajeemaniz: it was previously all 1/6
19:59 PyaKura: 1/6 is a good middle ground on some parts only
19:59 PyaKura: not everything
20:00 ajeemaniz: 04:31:263 - 1/161!!1!11!!
20:00 ajeemaniz: but lol
20:00 PyaKura: xD
20:01 PyaKura: uh but wait 1/6 on everything actually sounds like a solution...?
20:01 ajeemaniz: that if i focus on guitar
20:01 PyaKura: until 04:33:572 -
20:01 ajeemaniz: i think it will be more accurate to follow drums
20:01 PyaKura: you can poly
20:01 PyaKura: a bit
20:02 PyaKura: let me try
20:02 ajeemaniz: can you send me the .osu
20:08 PyaKura: for the last part sure
20:08 PyaKura: otherwise i've reverted the changes
20:08 PyaKura: that we did before :c
20:08 ajeemaniz: o.o
20:09 ajeemaniz: D:
20:11 PyaKura: more like i try several things on the fly
20:11 PyaKura: so it might look like crap xD
20:11 PyaKura: okay i think i've found the "correct" snaps for the guitar stream
20:11 ajeemaniz: its better than nothing, although i might keep the drum-emphasized (current snapping) pattern
20:12 ajeemaniz: sure
20:12 ajeemaniz: @u@
20:13 PyaKura: http://puu.sh/rvnEN.osu
20:13 PyaKura: only the last part is relevant
20:15 PyaKura: oh i forgot some notes éehpiuheaz
20:16 ajeemaniz: o.o
20:16 ajeemaniz: just put the timestamps
20:16 ajeemaniz: i can add it
20:16 PyaKura: 04:34:250 - to 04:34:928 - the entirety of it i did 1/4 and 1/6 poly
20:17 ajeemaniz: holy flying furball
20:17 ajeemaniz: these are genius
20:17 ajeemaniz: @3@
20:18 PyaKura: a
20:18 ajeemaniz: actually it fits much
20:19 ajeemaniz: 04:32:047 (272047|4,272131|3) - i can hear 1/8 here
20:19 PyaKura: yeah but it's inconsistent and almost inaudible at full speed
20:19 PyaKura: if anything you get the feeling that it kinda "slows down" instead
20:20 ajeemaniz: ok can i use the rest of the pattern? @3@
20:20 PyaKura: same from 04:32:555 - to 04:33:064 - 1/4 might work better for the feeling
20:20 ajeemaniz: you need 10 Kudosus for this or at least M4M
20:20 PyaKura: instead of 1/6
20:20 PyaKura: and no lol
20:20 PyaKura: it's alright
20:21 PyaKura: and do whatever you want with the patterns it's your map
20:23 ajeemaniz: all done
20:23 ajeemaniz: will fix 4K snapping based on your 6K check
20:23 PyaKura: alrighty
20:24 ajeemaniz: please post the irc in the thread, means i will need the bubble from beginning again
20:24 PyaKura: will do