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Emilia(CV:Setsunan) - Unfinished START [Taiko]

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Aisha
Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it :D
Topic Starter
katacheh
Fixed =D
Aisha
Let's go :D

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2017-12-06 00:37 xfraczynho: little usggestion
2017-12-06 00:37 xfraczynho: 00:01:179 (2) - d according to vocals
2017-12-06 00:37 xfraczynho: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1020316 Emilia(CV:Setsunan) - Incomplete START [Futsuu]]
2017-12-06 00:37 xfraczynho: would look nice also
2017-12-06 00:37 katacheh: aw
2017-12-06 00:37 katacheh: ok
2017-12-06 00:38 katacheh: is fan's oni okay?
2017-12-06 00:38 katacheh: xD
2017-12-06 00:38 xfraczynho: as far i've seen yesterday
2017-12-06 00:38 xfraczynho: it is
2017-12-06 00:38 xfraczynho: maybe on futsuu
2017-12-06 00:39 xfraczynho: 00:32:874 - 00:51:374 - could be so long without any 2/1 break
2017-12-06 00:39 xfraczynho: 00:37:374 (52) - maybe delete this?
2017-12-06 00:39 xfraczynho: oh no
2017-12-06 00:39 xfraczynho: 00:44:207 (70) - this one better
2017-12-06 00:39 xfraczynho: its more unnecesary xD
2017-12-06 00:40 katacheh: okay
2017-12-06 00:40 xfraczynho: yes, not anything else to say
2017-12-06 00:40 xfraczynho: D: waitwait
2017-12-06 00:41 katacheh: 00:41:041 (61) - delete this one ?
2017-12-06 00:41 xfraczynho: change Fan's oni hitsound to normals xD
2017-12-06 00:41 xfraczynho: that also is nice
2017-12-06 00:43 katacheh: ok.. i deleted 00:38:374 - and 00:41:041 -
2017-12-06 00:43 xfraczynho: 00:41:041 (61) - to be honest
2017-12-06 00:43 xfraczynho: only this is better
2017-12-06 00:44 xfraczynho: so 00:43:707 (68) - is consistent with 00:38:374 (54) -
2017-12-06 00:44 katacheh: ow
2017-12-06 00:44 katacheh: okay
2017-12-06 00:44 xfraczynho: otherwise it would be strange just to see one double here xD
2017-12-06 00:44 katacheh: 00:38:374 (54) - do i need to delete this one?
2017-12-06 00:44 katacheh: 00:44:207 -
2017-12-06 00:45 katacheh: sorry this one
2017-12-06 00:45 xfraczynho: not neccesary imo
2017-12-06 00:45 katacheh: okay :D
2017-12-06 00:45 xfraczynho: with only 00:41:041 (61) - this is enough
2017-12-06 00:45 katacheh: lemme update
2017-12-06 00:45 xfraczynho: oki
2017-12-06 00:45 xfraczynho: about fan's oni
2017-12-06 00:46 xfraczynho: don't forget to change hitsounds xD
2017-12-06 00:46 katacheh: yes changed
2017-12-06 00:46 xfraczynho: okay let me know
2017-12-06 00:47 xfraczynho: 00:14:208 - still 70%
2017-12-06 00:47 xfraczynho: D:
2017-12-06 00:47 xfraczynho: (redline)
2017-12-06 00:48 katacheh: ohh.. rip
2017-12-06 00:48 katacheh: i thought i changed it
2017-12-06 00:48 katacheh: alright
2017-12-06 00:50 xfraczynho: sec
2017-12-06 00:50 xfraczynho: oki
2017-12-06 00:50 xfraczynho: it looks nice
Skylish
Re-checklish

[General]

! All diff.es except stu's Oni: 01:07:541 - / 01:07:874 - K K did not show a great instrast within those bass drum kick and drum bass kick with cymbal crash. D K would work better.

! Oni's': Consider unifying the SV changes in the introduction part.

[Kantan]

> 00:00:494 - redundant green timing point, you can remove it directly since SV=1.00 here.

[Futsuu]

> 00:00:494 - not recommended to use any SV changes until Muzukashii

> 00:31:207 (39,40) - ctrl+G (k d) seems matching the pitch flow better.

> 00:44:207 - k for consistent drum kicks, same as 00:38:874 - / 00:41:874 -

> 01:06:707 (123,124) - how about d k here to show a variation? 2 repeated K k d are enough I guess, at 01:03:541 - / 01:04:874 - . K d k at 01:06:207 - can display a nice colour flow with the suggestion at 01:07:541 -

> 01:19:374 - where's the d ;w;? Repeated doublets usage is expected.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:44:374 - remove it to clear the mapping channel and create a distinguishment between vocal gaps

> 01:14:541 - you missed a Finisher?

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 (341,342) - k D? refers to the general part

> 01:15:041 - Unify the usage of Finisher with Muzukashii

[Fan's Oni]

> 0,100 can show Emilia's whole head, consider shifting the BG down 20 digits more.

! 00:00:494 - Again, HS:S is strongly discouraged in any circumstances unless a soft sample really fits the music. While, the introduction consists of common piano melodies (which you are following to) and vocals, HS:N with a lower vol. is good enough.

> 00:36:207 - change it to k for a better colour-change trend.

> 01:15:374 - same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - , but missing a Finisher

> 01:20:041 - consider adding some diminuendo SVs for the weakening dynamic of guitar chords, like the settings in Oni. 100% is too loud.

[stu's Oni]

> 00:54:541 - change it to k for a better flow, common drum kick is expected

> 00:59:541 - remove this triplet for spacing, the whole section after 00:58:207 - lacks a glimpse of space and rest.

> 01:07:541 - not sure why those kats are spammed. Perhaps you want to map the high-pitch piano chords at the backgroud layer. If that's the case, somewhat the kat usages should show nice contrasts and consistencies:

< 01:07:707 - a small kat to show the cymbal crash at 01:07:874 -
< 01:08:207 - kdkdk for consistent places of kat spams

> 01:14:541 - missing Finisher

[]

I am in probation tier now (I cannot qualify beatmap). I will re-bubble again, when things are settled, and let frac qualify it later. Call me back when everything is confirmed.
Fantazy

Skylish wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

> 0,100 can show Emilia's whole head, consider shifting the BG down 20 digits more. change

! 00:00:494 - Again, HS:S is strongly discouraged in any circumstances unless a soft sample really fits the music. While, the introduction consists of common piano melodies (which you are following to) and vocals, HS:N with a lower vol. is good enough. ok...also xfrac's advice, change to such as otther diff's pattern

> 00:36:207 - change it to k for a better colour-change trend. feel d better

> 01:15:374 - same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - , but missing a Finisher hm...i thought here lots of times, K is a bad feeling 01:14:874 - change to k k d D

> 01:20:041 - consider adding some diminuendo SVs for the weakening dynamic of guitar chords, like the settings in Oni. 100% is too loud. oops, i missed it 01:19:874 - delete D, and add Oni's audio
Topic Starter
katacheh

Skylish wrote:

Re-checklish

[General]

! All diff.es except stu's Oni: 01:07:541 - / 01:07:874 - K K did not show a great instrast within those bass drum kick and drum bass kick with cymbal crash. D K would work better. changed all D K

! Oni's': Consider unifying the SV changes in the introduction part. Will ask stu and fan. edit: unify to 0.8x

[Kantan]

> 00:00:494 - redundant green timing point, you can remove it directly since SV=1.00 here. removed it.

[Futsuu]

> 00:00:494 - not recommended to use any SV changes until Muzukashii okay, remove greenline here.

> 00:31:207 (39,40) - ctrl+G (k d) seems matching the pitch flow better. yeah, seems nice.

> 00:44:207 - k for consistent drum kicks, same as 00:38:874 - / 00:41:874 - changed.

> 01:06:707 (123,124) - how about d k here to show a variation? 2 repeated K k d are enough I guess, at 01:03:541 - / 01:04:874 - . K d k at 01:06:207 - can display a nice colour flow with the suggestion at 01:07:541 - okay, nice variation.

> 01:19:374 - where's the d ;w;? Repeated doublets usage is expected. yes, added it.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:44:374 - remove it to clear the mapping channel and create a distinguishment between vocal gaps seems nice, i changed it.

> 01:14:541 - you missed a Finisher? ohh yes, fixed it.

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 (341,342) - k D? refers to the general part Fixed.

> 01:15:041 - Unify the usage of Finisher with Muzukashii and Fixed.



[]

I am in probation tier now (I cannot qualify beatmap). I will re-bubble again, when things are settled, and let frac qualify it later. Call me back when everything is confirmed.
Thank you Skylish :)
stu00608

Skylish wrote:

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[stu's Oni]

> 00:54:541 - change it to k for a better flow, common drum kick is expected
Taht's my mistake :O I changed 00:54:707 to k like how I made at 00:49:041

> 00:59:541 - remove this triplet for spacing, the whole section after 00:58:207 - lacks a glimpse of space and rest.
I keep the note at 00:59:707

> 01:07:541 - not sure why those kats are spammed. Perhaps you want to map the high-pitch piano chords at the backgroud layer. If that's the case, somewhat the kat usages should show nice contrasts and consistencies:

< 01:07:707 - a small kat to show the cymbal crash at 01:07:874 - Now It's "K k K k"
< 01:08:207 - kdkdk for consistent places of kat spams Fixed


> 01:14:541 - missing Finisher Fixed

[]

I am in probation tier now (I cannot qualify beatmap). I will re-bubble again, when things are settled, and let frac qualify it later. Call me back when everything is confirmed.
Skylish
A few things before I bubble:

[Fan's Oni]

> 00:00:494 - why is here still HS:S? Are you compromised with HS:N, otherwise please explain the rationale behind of strong determination in using soft hitsamples.

[Stu's Oni]

> 01:16:874 - I forgot to mention this timing :( How'bout a Finisher as well? It shares the same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - / 01:15:374 - . A similar Finisher note is expected.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:00:494 - Fix SV=0.8x if you are for consistency.

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 - not sure if you want to keep it as d or k, both work fine from my point of view.

[]

These should be all, call me back later when things are settled.
stu00608

Skylish wrote:

A few things before I bubble:

[Stu's Oni]

> 01:16:874 - I forgot to mention this timing :( How'bout a Finisher as well? It shares the same cymbal crash with 01:14:541 - / 01:15:374 - . A similar Finisher note is expected.
In that case , I think 01:17:374 and 01:17:541 should be K together , but that also weird too :?
the K 01:14:541 here due to the drum sound at 01:14:207 (382,383,384) , so I keep 01:16:874 here k :)


These should be all, call me back later when things are settled.
Fantazy

Skylish wrote:

[Fan's Oni]

> 00:00:494 - why is here still HS:S? Are you compromised with HS:N, otherwise please explain the rationale behind of strong determination in using soft hitsamples. ehh...my shit english, i was thought that is mean about the piano pattern, and idk when why how these 2 audio become HS:S :thinking:
Topic Starter
katacheh

Skylish wrote:

A few things before I bubble:

[Muzukashii]

> 00:00:494 - Fix SV=0.8x if you are for consistency. i thought 0.9x would be nice in muzu. Anyway, i changed for consistency.

[Oni]

> 01:07:374 - not sure if you want to keep it as d or k, both work fine from my point of view. change to k, feels better i think.

[]

These should be all, call me back later when things are settled.
Thanks!
Aisha
Talking with Skylish about spread between F-M I'd suggest something

K-F-M is pretty good imo both of them increases on a 2x~ objects amount, but I think Muzu could have a little less notes to have a good K-F-M-O:


[Muzukashii]
Suggest to:
00:51:041 (159) - delete according vocals
00:56:374 (188) - ^
01:09:707 (252) - kat and 01:09:874 (253) - delete, would follow piano and doesn't break the spread with fut
01:11:041 (258,259) - 01:12:374 (264,265) - similar

that's what i suggest, wouldn't break any gap and makes something different here :')
Topic Starter
katacheh

xfraczynho wrote:

Talking with Skylish about spread between F-M I'd suggest something

K-F-M is pretty good imo both of them increases on a 2x~ objects amount, but I think Muzu could have a little less notes to have a good K-F-M-O:


[Muzukashii]
Suggest to:
00:51:041 (159) - delete according vocals
00:56:374 (188) - ^
01:09:707 (252) - kat and 01:09:874 (253) - delete, would follow piano and doesn't break the spread with fut
01:11:041 (258,259) - 01:12:374 (264,265) - similar
Fixed them all :)
that's what i suggest, wouldn't break any gap and makes something different here :')
Skylish
The density spread is tolerated considering different mapping channels following in Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni's'.

GD Oni's' meet acceptable standards now.

Bubbled~!
Aisha
gl
Charlotte
Congratzzzz :)
ArThasCD
這首終於ranked了! :D
Kurai

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it :D
Hey, I don't see anywhere written on that page that the Romanisation of the title should be "Incomplete START". It's only written "未完成START" and no Romanisation is provided. I couldn't find any official Romanisation anywhere else. Shouldn't the title be Romanise to "Mikansei START" instead?

Aisha

Kurai wrote:

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it :D
Hey, I don't see anywhere written on that page that the Romanisation of the title should be "Incomplete START". It's only written "未完成START" and no Romanisation is provided. I couldn't find any official Romanisation anywhere else. Shouldn't the title be Romanise to "Mikansei START" instead?

Tbh i based on
that's actually more accurate as incomplete than unfinished, as you can see on

(Incomplete it's actually the nearest word).
That's basically why I allowed that more than Unfinished START, also this doesn't seem like it's the same song according to lyrics
I think katacheh could be more accurate, let's wait for his reply, that's all what i can say atm
seanhappy8520

Kurai wrote:

xfraczynho wrote:

Yes, the title is actually Incomplete START according to http://krtgirls.wixsite.com/initiating-station/staff. Every metadata comes from here.
Let me know when you update it :D
Hey, I don't see anywhere written on that page that the Romanisation of the title should be "Incomplete START". It's only written "未完成START" and no Romanisation is provided. I couldn't find any official Romanisation anywhere else. Shouldn't the title be Romanise to "Mikansei START" instead?

WAT? this is not even a Japanese song, putting anime pics doesnt mean it comes from japan animu lel
Topic Starter
katacheh
Well, both "incomplete" and "unfinished" are fine to me. Since I do not know the difference, i'd use incomplete that most ppl are using that.

but "Mikansei" ? This Japanese wooow!
wellll.... yeahhhh!! why not? it looks so good!!
hey! why i never think about it??

But


終於用出來了! 最想說出來的前十大台詞(?)
Kurai
Okay, did not realise the song was Chinese. You should only use a translation of the title only if there is an official translation. Since there is none, you must Romanise the characters, not translate them.
In this case then, it should be "Wei Wan Cheng START".
Surono
oh my

languageakek matter
Topic Starter
katacheh


I asked eajrock.

eajrock said, in cd data, it's "Unfinished START".

so.. i may need to change this...XD
Raiden
ok
Topic Starter
katacheh
Fixed
Skylish
我了個大去誰會知道 incomplete / unfinished 的分別,官網又不寫清楚 >_>

按理來說未完成以 in+complete為主,所以好合理,反而unfinished有點怪,不過算了官方說怎就怎

The work is incomplete (adj.), please finish it asap.

The work is unfinished (passive v.), please complete it asap.

^ 看上面就明個道理了

(說道理也應該要問清楚metadata的,這,算我的帳 :( )
Raiden
d
Smallwu
goooooooood
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